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From potatoes to record chicks. How to discreetly lose face

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Alexander G. Lukashenko is the unconditional mastodon of post-Soviet policy. Having sat in the chair of the President of Belarus in July 1994, the former political commissar and secretary of the party committee, Lukashenko seems simply “Teflon” to historical and political whirlwinds. Nothing sticks to him and nothing burns. Back in the early 90s, he easily bypassed the nationalist party of the Belarusian Popular Front, whose unofficial face was Vasil Bykov himself, who in his old age slid to terry anti-communism and, as a result, to Russophobia. It was impossible to call his purely political tactics subtle and elegant, but it was effective ...


Blossom on someone else's background


Lukashenko was well aware that all the former Soviet republics would always be in the contrasting shadow of Moscow. And they jumped out of the Union solely on the assurance that they would be even richer than Moscow. Therefore, Lukashenko, cleverly manipulating illusions within the CIS and Russia's imperial nostalgia for the Union and the fraternity, maintained order and an adequate standard of living in his country to periodically point a finger toward a neighbor mired in the war for example to his citizens.

And against the background of Yeltsin, Alexander Grigoryevich looked completely brilliant. Yeltsin took up a glass - Lukashenka took a shovel, Boris was taken in a resuscitation limousine - Alexander steers a tractor, the “father” with industrialists walks around BelAZ workshops, and the “tsar” Boris, surrounded by oligarchs, continues to ring in glasses.

From a height of years, all this, of course, seems to be a measurement of the temperature in a typhoid hut. After all, once it seemed commonplace to open large-scale production and seeing off spacecraft into space, rather than trying to save or sell the rest more expensive. But the sympathy of the people, obviously, fell on Lukashenko, although he was clearly not an outstanding figure with such political tricks. Entire volumes of ridiculous pearls were easily forgiven:

"Just picked up the eggs, as soon as the milk disappeared."
"You asked for rain - I gave you rain!"
“And God forbid to cope with his native Belarus. Agree that this piece is enough to swallow it. God forbid, at least somehow chew for five years. "
“We don’t need there: an automated system of election fraud. Do not. We will create a state. ”


From potatoes to record chicks. How to discreetly lose face

His quotes can compete even with Klitschko. But all this, of course, was forgiven. How can you not forgive, when you look towards the "Tsar" Boris unwittingly start to be baptized. And it is no secret that many promised him the prospect of trying on the crown of the Mother See himself. Therefore, the creation of the Union State, perhaps, seemed to Alexander Grigorievich a real gift on the way to Moscow.

And in 1996, in the St. George Hall of the Kremlin, under the agreement on the formation of the Community of Belarus and Russia, Boris Nikolayevich scribbled a trembling tremor and Alexander Grigoryevich signed his hand with complete hope. And everything went as it should. The contrast continued to work. A potato, a tractor, a barn - a glass, a hospital, oligarchs. And all the same nostalgia helped pump the country with cheap resources.

I'm tired, I'm leaving ...


Suddenly, like thunder from a clear Minsk sky, the news broke that Yeltsin was leaving. Alarming bells about the appearance of a young and active chairman of the government Vladimir Putin, who showed his teeth in the Caucasus, and before that, the “father” had come around with a nervous tick. And now it was worth starting to change the concept, to reach a new level, but it was not clear what to expect from the new leader. Moreover, Lukashenko has already managed to earn the title of "last dictator of Europe."

And the cunning fellow in Moscow stopped organizing photo shoots, and no one saw him with a bottle. On the contrary, a person in the status of president, who had not been seen for years beyond the table, suddenly appeared in an army tent, lit up at a plant not yet dead, managed to get into a combat aircraft, and even began to make quite reasonable offers on the international stage. And what is all this to cover?


And then the inertia of thinking worked. Alexander Grigorievich with a vengeance took hold of a shovel, loaded potatoes, inspected the cowsheds and again walked around his beloved MAZ and BelAZ. But nostalgia for Russia worked, raw materials and purchases of Belarusian products were on, so there was nothing to wipe away tears about failed political leadership.

Time passed, but receptions did not change


Over time, it seemed that Lukashenko came to terms with the situation, as if there were no thoughts about the Russian crown, and took the place of an experienced juggler between the periodic blackmail of Russia by threats to “leave” to Europe and promises to Western countries to take a course towards rapprochement. At some point, Alexander Grigoryevich seemed to begin to enjoy it, repeating the scheme over and over again, not noticing that he had simply begun to engage not only in cheap extortion, but also to lose face.

Well, how many times can you dig up potatoes? And shake your melons, clapping each watermelon like a baby in the ass? And even more so it’s time to reconsider the “strategy” of political behavior, when in the cowsheds of the president they even take record-breaking chicks for “their own”. Meanwhile, spice is added by the loss-making of MAZ and the actual stop of the BelAZ conveyor.

And then came the coronavirus, highlighting the perversity of the most diverse spheres of human life. Such an unexpected guest made many venerable politicians think about how to behave in the information arena. Boris Johnson “decided” to join the disease and fell with the coronavirus, barricaded himself on Downing Street. Despite as many as three tests for the virus, Angela Merkel still quarantined. Donald Trump, despite the situation, remains stoic business calm, as if an epidemic plays into his hands.


And how did Lukashenko react, who could well use the situation as a chance to change his inert policy? In the same way as before I reacted: I decided not to reinvent the wheel. At first he stated that all of Russia “was blazing with a coronavirus”, apparently nostalgic for the contrast of the times of Tsar Boris, where he had traveled for years and years in a row. Further, so that the cognitive dissonance would be bent from shock, he continued with indignation that Russia was closing the border. A little later, he poured pearls during a hockey match, playing the role of a rural epidemiologist. And all this is by no means some kind of sudden outbreak of a confused person - it is a principle of action, a natural outburst of a political career. This political dementia will continue to gain momentum. And complaints in the style of a resentful schoolboy, which the head of state doesn’t face at all, about network bloggers who speak about Alexander Grigoryevich are very critical, is just a piece of the general mosaic.

The main thing is that when Moscow periodically gets tired of the dependency of the Minsk tsar and threatens to turn the gates, Lukashenko deliberately puts emphasis on the plural pronoun - “we”. Thus, he uses the Belarusian people as hostages, mindful of the imperial nostalgia of Moscow for brotherhood and unity. At the same time, even this technique is slowly burying Lukashenko, because he passionately describes the intimate poses in which, in his opinion, Russia puts Belarus, this antediluvian figure is betraying the political trump cards of the nationalist opposition like the aforementioned Belarusian Popular Front party with his own hands. And, as is known from the example of Ukraine, active Nazis do not need a lot of votes, an aggressive crowd is enough.
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  1. Cowbra
    Cowbra April 3 2020 04: 54 New
    +9
    M-de ... Download Old Man - from all sides! Ish, what a bastard - well, he has nothing good! It’s true that we would recall that it was crap on Chubais, namely, that Lukoshenko did a science city, and we have tank sights. Not from Chubai Assa! (Neither pay nor advance!)
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 April 3 2020 07: 03 New
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      A cunning fellow in Moscow stopped making photo shoots

      Are you talking about the head-hunter-seeker amphora ?? And the last photo shoot doesn’t count, where did our hero in a yellow blanket suit against the background of doctors in bandages defile?
      I personally like this photo session more to my liking:

      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 3 2020 08: 32 New
        -5
        Quote: Stas157
        I personally like this photo session more to my liking:

        But I like this lol
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 3 2020 08: 52 New
          -5
          good taste! Hello! hi
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      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 3 2020 08: 36 New
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        Well, yes, the head of state should dig potatoes. Well, if this is the maximum that he can, then why is he needed at all? The president is kept so that he thinks.
        1. antique
          antique April 3 2020 13: 14 New
          -13
          Quote: EvilLion
          Well, yes, the head of state should dig potatoes. Well, if this is the maximum that he can, then why is he needed at all? The president is kept so that he thinks.

          I agree completely. The president must think, not lie and not hypocrite his own people. It seems to me that Lukashenko is always extremely honest with his citizens.
      3. Bar1
        Bar1 April 3 2020 09: 14 New
        +5
        Quote: Stas157
        I personally like this photo session more to my liking:


        potato is too small.
      4. Oleg2003
        Oleg2003 April 3 2020 11: 04 New
        +6
        There is the place for him, nowhere else
      5. Den717
        Den717 April 3 2020 14: 02 New
        -2
        Quote: Stas157
        I personally like this photo session more to my liking:

        Obviously, your opinion was not conveyed to Putin ... Maybe I would consider ... laughing
      6. JD1979
        JD1979 April 3 2020 14: 57 New
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        Quote: Stas157
        I personally like this photo session more to my liking:


        What do you like? The ostentatious production from the unfortunate chairman of the collective farm who held on to the net with potatoes?))) The tops of the green))) They beautifully drove a couple of rows from the edge of the field and raked them up, they dumped the dust directly into the dust so that, God forbid, hesitated))) You where did you see something to dig potatoes?))
        This hoopoe Klitschko has overtaken phrases for a long time. Yesterday he gave another insanity in the news: he accused the doctors of the Vitebsk region of being infected with the coronavirus ... And the fact that they have nothing but gauze from protection ... and is not expected, only if at their own expense. Maybe you take it to yourself, so beautiful, let him take pictures of you and tell tales.
        1. Campanella
          Campanella April 3 2020 19: 43 New
          +4
          The collective farmers Lukashenko is closer to us than the esthete Putin with his Siberian Cranes, amphorae, fighters.
          And then potatoes, cows, fresh milk ...
      7. Cyrus
        Cyrus April 3 2020 15: 43 New
        10
        To each his own, to whom to dig potatoes, to whom to rule by power. And here’s the question, and the Darkest, what do you think should roam in a shirt and shorts for an infection?
        1. Jager
          Jager April 4 2020 18: 40 New
          0
          A normal ruler does not make yellow comedy out of this. Or was Kalina not enough?
      8. Shelest2000
        Shelest2000 April 3 2020 19: 10 New
        +1
        .
        Are you talking about the head-hunter-seeker amphora ?? And the last photo shoot doesn’t count, where did our hero in a yellow blanket suit against the background of doctors in bandages defile?
        I personally like this photo session more to my liking:

        I agree. Grygoritch is a fan of his country, of his people, and does not portray an aged telepuzik. Funny and sad ....
      9. About 2
        About 2 April 5 2020 06: 46 New
        0
        We must also remind the author of Stepashin’s interview on the cessation of the war in the Caucasus, where he said that all these measures were worked out before Putin and not by him, but he came to everything ready. This interview was on TV in the beginning of the XNUMXs.
        1. wolf20032
          wolf20032 April 7 2020 12: 20 New
          -1
          Well, then why did Stepashin not implement these measures?
    2. Uncle Izya
      Uncle Izya April 3 2020 07: 34 New
      18
      In Russia, there were 8 tractor factories, there was only one MTB production in Leningrad, and that was killed by the Yeltsenists. Luke retained something at least
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 April 3 2020 08: 20 New
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        The author gracefully went around a lot.
        * The phenomenon * of Lukashenka’s longevity is only in the fact that in YOUR * republic * they have eradicated ALL competitors in both enrichment and power. There is nothing else there except the cultivation of hereditary power and the effort to preserve * acquired by overwork *.
        The surroundings can be different, in Europe and not only, there are very good examples of the inheritance of power. Why is Lukashenko worse?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 3 2020 08: 33 New
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          Quote: Vasily50
          Lukashenko only in the fact that in his own * republic * they eradicated ALL competitors in both enrichment and power.

          First of all, their pro-Russian segment.
          Prowestern - bloom and smell. So that he could at any time nod at the next "celebrant of the Battle of Orsha" in order to scare Russia "with Belarus without Lukashenko.
          1. Lelek
            Lelek April 3 2020 13: 50 New
            +7
            Quote: Spade
            Pro-Western - bloom and smell.

            hi
            Smell - yes, but some kind of bloom. Lag tried to "swell" to the European "colleague", and "Europe" to him: "stand, Dawn" and sanctions on his neck, and to them ("Europe") howling, and the friend - Ruin in the wake. So that (IMHO), shitty strategist Alexander Grygorych.
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 3 2020 08: 42 New
        -23
        Well, if tractors began to be destroyed several times less, then they need to be produced less. Although you are arguing from a position of stagnation, which was already scoffed at in the USSR, that industry works for itself, and the plant is needed to give its employees an apartment. But on the shelves in the shops, not a damn thing, although the whole country goes to work. Actually, all supposedly collapsed factories in Russia are divided into 3 types:
        1) Became superfluous, for example, due to the reduction of the army, or reorganization into more efficient forms of management, in particular in agriculture.
        2) Producing a non-competitive product, instead of which everyone began to buy better imports.
        3) Producing kerosene lamps and other chapel.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 3 2020 08: 47 New
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          Quote: EvilLion
          Releasing a non-competitive product,

          Very often, such "non-competitiveness" was artificial

          .
          Quote: EvilLion
          1) Became superfluous, for example, due to the reduction of the army, or reorganization into more efficient forms of management, in particular in agriculture.

          Again, often an artificial phenomenon.
          1. EvilLion
            EvilLion April 3 2020 09: 03 New
            -12
            Tell jokes about AvtoVAZ? Or maybe about the biggest Soviet microcircuits?

            Again, often an artificial phenomenon.


            If you had an army of 5 million, but became 2.5 million, then probably its needs will also fall by a factor of 2, and if of the 2.5 million, the bulk is the soldier from the infantry, who, at the very least, is fed and dressed and given shoot the horn in 2 years, and some obscure officers from empty org. structures, then, probably, tank plants will sit without orders. Moreover, it was precisely the defense industry on the territory of the RSFSR that was not 3/4. To do tanks, planes and missiles in Central Asia somehow did not work out very well.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 3 2020 11: 46 New
              +3
              Quote: EvilLion
              If your army was 5 million, and it became 2.5 million, then probably its needs will also fall by 2 times

              Is not a fact. Rather, the opposite.
              In addition, they deprived a significant share of real export revenues (as in the example with Iran, they were ready to pay real money, but the Hor-Chernomyrdin deal deprived us of billions)
              In addition, localization of production in Russia, refusal to supply from "fraternal republics"

              You see, even here there is obvious artificiality.
        2. Bar1
          Bar1 April 3 2020 09: 05 New
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          Quote: EvilLion
          Actually, all supposedly collapsed factories in Russia are divided into 3 types:


          Well this is a lie. Moreover, such a lie is primitive.
          -We had aircraft manufacturing, now we have no aircraft manufacturing.
          -We had a space industry, now our ships are falling because locksmiths scored for pennies from the street do not properly screw the sensors.
          -We had mechanical engineering, i.e. made their cars, now we do not have automobile manufacturing.
          -We had a light industry, now we do not have a light industry.
          -We had our own machine tool industry, now there is no machine tool industry.
          -We had our own electronics, now we don’t have our own electronics.
          We DO NOT have billionaires, now there are 200 billionaire friends of Putin.
          We even have military equipment now foreign Iveco-lynx, Typhoons of the machine - there is nothing ours of ours.
          All the problems of our people that the state is led by the wrong people and they are leading our people in the wrong direction.
          1. EvilLion
            EvilLion April 3 2020 09: 25 New
            -17
            We have excellent military aircraft construction, because, unlike the Tupolev office, which is 20 years behind the west, the military designers were frustrated by the military designers and they issued the masterpiece Su-27, which then dragged the entire aircraft industry.

            Spaceships are now falling no more often than in the USSR, but rather even less often. YOU would study a little subject.

            -We had mechanical engineering, i.e. made their cars, now we do not have automobile manufacturing.


            In the meantime, the jokes about AvtoVAZ have somehow stopped, Grants are driving on the streets.

            -We had a light industry, now we do not have a light industry.


            Already clothes were always full of the most different. Do not write nonsense.

            -We had our own machine tool industry, now there is no machine tool industry.


            Given that the USSR also purchased the most sophisticated equipment abroad, it’s not even funny. The machine tool industry has a certain specificity, which would be nice to understand before whining.

            -We had our own electronics, now we don’t have our own electronics.


            We must assume that copying an IBM / 360, under the ES computer brand, in order to be able to purchase, or simply pirate, American software is the first sign of your electronics? At the same time, even the ES computers were released much less than the American original, simply because the USSR did not initially have such a powerful electronic industry that the United States had after WWII. You guys, in this regard, are no different from the Bulkokhrusta, for whom Sikorsky "Ilya Muromets" was built in the garage from sticks with imported motors, so it is already a super aviation power, and the fact that RI then only 80 such aircraft was able to make, although others countries were able to in a series of hundreds of similar machines, they do not care. The USSR had interesting computer developments in the 60s, but it did not have the ability to produce computers in the thousands, as did the IBM C 360 series. So I, I guess, she actually created the software market when a park of thousands of compatible machines appeared. So cut back the Soviet electronics of the sturgeon, it suffered greatly from the lack of opportunities for the release of the element base.

            We DO NOT have billionaires, now there are 200 billionaire friends of Putin.


            These are your fantasies. To the doctor.

            We even have military equipment now foreign Iveco-lynx, Typhoons of the machine - there is nothing ours of ours.


            "Lynx" go and have written off for a long time for wear and tear and swore to contact, and they were on "try". And here the "typhoon" to ask, I think, is useless.
            1. Bar1
              Bar1 April 3 2020 09: 39 New
              +4
              Quote: EvilLion
              We have excellent military aircraft construction, because, unlike the Tupolev office, which is 20 years behind the west, the military designers were frustrated by the military designers and they issued the masterpiece Su-27, which then dragged the entire aircraft industry.

              Spaceships are now falling no more often than in the USSR, but rather even less often. YOU would study a little subject.

              -We had mechanical engineering, i.e. made their cars, now we do not have automobile manufacturing.


              In the meantime, the jokes about AvtoVAZ have somehow stopped, Grants are driving on the streets.

              -We had a light industry, now we do not have a light industry.


              Already clothes were always full of the most different. Do not write nonsense.

              -We had our own machine tool industry, now there is no machine tool industry.


              Given that the USSR also purchased the most sophisticated equipment abroad, it’s not even funny. The machine tool industry has a certain specificity, which would be nice to understand before whining.

              -We had our own electronics, now we don’t have our own electronics.


              We must assume that copying an IBM / 360, under the ES computer brand, in order to be able to purchase, or simply pirate, American software is the first sign of your electronics? At the same time, even the ES computers were released much less than the American original, simply because the USSR did not initially have such a powerful electronic industry that the United States had after WWII. You guys, in this regard, are no different from the Bulkokhrusta, for whom Sikorsky "Ilya Muromets" was built in the garage from sticks with imported motors, so it is already a super aviation power, and the fact that RI then only 80 such aircraft was able to make, although others countries were able to in a series of hundreds of similar machines, they do not care. The USSR had interesting computer developments in the 60s, but it did not have the ability to produce computers in the thousands, as did the IBM C 360 series. So I, I guess, she actually created the software market when a park of thousands of compatible machines appeared. So cut back the Soviet electronics of the sturgeon, it suffered greatly from the lack of opportunities for the release of the element base.

              We DO NOT have billionaires, now there are 200 billionaire friends of Putin.


              These are your fantasies. To the doctor.

              We even have military equipment now foreign Iveco-lynx, Typhoons of the machine - there is nothing ours of ours.


              "Lynx" go and have written off for a long time for wear and tear and swore to contact, and they were on "try". And here the "typhoon" to ask, I think, is useless.


              it’s even disgusting to argue, well, as expected, the client can’t answer, it's all a lie.
              1. EvilLion
                EvilLion April 3 2020 09: 47 New
                -12
                I answered essentially, you fell into a tantrum. The drain is counted.
                1. EvilLion
                  EvilLion April 3 2020 12: 14 New
                  -12
                  Who minus, the same psychosis and drain counted.
                2. Campanella
                  Campanella April 3 2020 12: 43 New
                  +4
                  Which creature? About EU computers?
                  Lies pure water. The Ec series was shitty, strewed all the time, and the domestic Besm-6 worked like a clock.
                  1. EvilLion
                    EvilLion April 3 2020 13: 04 New
                    -1
                    Well, let's take a look at Wiki: BESM-6 was mass-produced from 1968 to 1987, a total of 355 cars were produced

                    IBM / 360 is more than 30 machines. What can we talk about here? The USSR could develop arbitrarily advanced computers, for this in those years, investments were relatively small. The USSR could not produce them in any significant quantities, and to solve this problem, a group of several dozen sensible specialists is not enough, huge investments are needed precisely in production.

                    And you also need software that the Americans simply have already managed to write by virtue of quantity, especially since the presence of several tens of thousands of the same type of machines already makes the development of software for sale commercially reasonable.

                    The most unpleasant thing is that even if the USSR did not begin to do what Dijkstra called the greatest victory of the West in the hall. war, then regardless of the future fate of the Union, the world would come to that position, which is now, when in every industry there is a good if a couple of hardware and software standards. And any of our computers, even surpassing it in Western parameters, (which, as if not a fact, Intel introduced memory on microcircuits in the 70s, since ferrite cores were there right away, as soon as the wind blew) would be unable to run Western software, which would stupidly more. That is, all the same, I would have to switch to app. standards, and the Internet would simply finish off any original crafts. That is, the same thing would happen, but later. And no preservation of the USSR and the Iron Curtain would have helped here.
                    1. Campanella
                      Campanella April 3 2020 13: 12 New
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                      I’m not in Wiki, but as a contemporary I can say, the decision to develop the Western model of the EC series computers was officially recognized as erroneous. In the end, Elbrus began to develop, but here the USSR also rested in a Bose.
                      As for the software, there was nothing special to copy on the EU series. Our programmers wrote OSes without any problems, we worked for them and did not use any IBM. But with Windows, the backlog has already begun, or rather failure.
                      But this is Yeltsin's chaos .. the theme is eternal.
                      1. ser56
                        ser56 April 3 2020 17: 17 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Campanella
                        As for the software, there was nothing special to copy on the EU series. Our programmers wrote OSes without any problems, we worked for them and didn’t use any IBM

                        so the OS is a very small part of the software ... request
                      2. Campanella
                        Campanella April 3 2020 17: 44 New
                        0
                        Not so big?
                      3. ser56
                        ser56 April 3 2020 17: 51 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Not so big?

                        Quote: EvilLion
                        And you also need software that the Americans simply have already managed to write by virtue of quantity, especially since the presence of several tens of thousands of the same type of machines already makes the development of software for sale commercially reasonable.

                        you are not careful - everything is written ...
                        repeat
                      4. Campanella
                        Campanella April 3 2020 18: 11 New
                        0
                        Nothing was needed in the EU of American computers. Read carefully.
                  2. Alexey RA
                    Alexey RA April 3 2020 18: 02 New
                    0
                    Quote: ser56
                    so the OS is a very small part of the software ...

                    Well, we did the same COMPASS. Although, as always - too little and too late. And the people scattered on AutoCAD, Solid or Katya.
                  3. ser56
                    ser56 April 3 2020 18: 09 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Alexey RA
                    Well, we did the same COMPASS.

                    and how many such packages are in different areas of life request
              2. ser56
                ser56 April 3 2020 17: 18 New
                +3
                Quote: Campanella
                here, the backlog has already gone from Windows, or rather failure.
                But this is Yeltsin's chaos .. the theme is eternal.

                sat on a PC in 1985 ... since then forgot about the virtual machine on Elbrus ... hi
          2. ser56
            ser56 April 3 2020 17: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: Campanella
            , and the domestic Besm-6 worked like a clock.

            if not a secret, did you think at BESM? hi
            1. Campanella
              Campanella April 3 2020 17: 46 New
              -2
              What interests you?
              1. ser56
                ser56 April 3 2020 17: 52 New
                +4
                Quote: Campanella
                What interests you?

                your experience on this computer ... request
              2. Campanella
                Campanella April 3 2020 19: 21 New
                -3
                Why do you need my experience? Tell us about yours, I'm ready to be happy for you!
              3. ser56
                ser56 April 3 2020 20: 17 New
                +1
                Quote: Campanella
                Why do you need my experience

                to know the seriousness of your knowledge ... request but they are not, so there is nothing to discuss ... request
                Quote: Campanella
                Tell us about your

                you don’t understand - this is nonlinear plasma physics ... hi
    3. dmitry --- spb
      dmitry --- spb April 4 2020 18: 21 New
      0
      I'm sorry, how old are you? Are you from a generation affected by the internet?
  • Greenwood
    Greenwood April 3 2020 13: 18 New
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    Quote: EvilLion
    "Grants" are driving on the streets.
    I live in Primorye. I have never seen. If someone buys them in the West, it is only because there is nothing cheaper in the segment of new cars. Doubtful reason for pride.
    Quote: EvilLion
    Already clothes were always full of the most different.
    Tagged Made in China / Turkey. This is exactly what is sold in most stores. lol
    Quote: EvilLion
    These are your fantasies. To the doctor.
    About billionaires, please open a thesis in more detail. As far as I know, Moscow is one of the most populated cities. For a long time, it was generally in the first place in their concentration. And this is with total poverty in the province.
  • antique
    antique April 3 2020 13: 43 New
    +7
    Quote: Bar1
    All the problems of our people that the state is led by the wrong people and they are leading our people in the wrong direction.

    It is very nice to read this on the formerly pro-Putin site. The correct conclusion. Everything is killed, and most importantly, the idea is killed. Now no one will be tearing the veins to stick through the knee in the water to prepare firewood for the freezing city.
    The designer will not rack his brains at night, and the worker will simply hammer a non-screwing bolt with a hammer. And we all see the result. Boasting, instead of real production samples, technological backwardness, which is expressed in the inability to design even a conventional diesel engine. Chatter descending from the very top of power, like the sticky saliva of a spider, entangles and deprives a whole nation of strength. The question arises, will this intoxicated and weakened people find the strength <to wake up from the endless drug stream of lies?
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets April 3 2020 14: 19 New
      +5
      Quote: Antique
      The question arises, will this intoxicated and weakened people find the strength <to wake up from the endless drug stream of lies?

      All the same, I think I had to ask: WHEN will the people find the strength in themselves to wake up from the endless narcotic stream of lies?
    2. ser56
      ser56 April 3 2020 17: 22 New
      -6
      Quote: Antique
      Now no one will be tearing the veins to stick through the knee in the water to prepare firewood for the freezing city.

      Are cities freezing now? and can remember. that Pavka’s heroism closed the illiteracy of communist managers? request you checkered or go? wink
      Quote: Antique
      Everything is killed, and most importantly, the idea is killed.

      is that which? laughing It seems Russia is alive ...

      Quote: Antique
      and the worker will simply hammer in the non-screwing bolt.

      so it was in the USSR ... request
      Quote: Antique
      The question arises, will this intoxicated and weakened people find the strength <to wake up from the endless drug stream of lies?

      the smell of maidanutami ... crying
      1. antique
        antique April 3 2020 17: 37 New
        +2
        It smelled like a personnel troll. Patterned, flat and gray, like wretched power itself. Like gives rise to like. Do not answer. The topic is closed.
        1. ser56
          ser56 April 3 2020 17: 50 New
          -3
          Quote: Antique
          It smelled like a personnel troll.

          precisely, from maidanutyh ... bully
        2. Campanella
          Campanella April 3 2020 19: 38 New
          +4
          Putin’s Internet crips are crap on Soviet power until their brain is dehydrated.
          And still, you won’t wash a black male up to white.
          1. ser56
            ser56 April 3 2020 20: 18 New
            0
            Quote: Campanella
            Putin’s Internet crips spoiling Soviet power

            What nonsense do you have? why kick the dead? bully We are comparing in a historical perspective, and this pounds you crying
            1. Campanella
              Campanella April 3 2020 20: 28 New
              0
              You call your ambiguous statements sent out of the finger a comparison? Have you noticed something you are comparing, or your "... like Russia is alive ..." is this your comparison in a historical perspective?
              1. ser56
                ser56 April 4 2020 17: 33 New
                0
                Quote: Campanella
                "... Russia seems to be alive ..." Is this your comparison in a historical perspective?

                of course! ready to refute? As SV did not kill Russia, she couldn’t do it ... request
                and not for you, who lost national memory for soldering, to refute this! request
              2. Campanella
                Campanella April 4 2020 22: 00 New
                -1
                So you are an amateur monarchist! Yes, think and speak as you like.
                Although you drown for Juche here, your research has nothing to do with real events.
              3. ser56
                ser56 April 5 2020 15: 14 New
                0
                Quote: Campanella
                you are an amateur monarchist!

                you have block-template thinking ... request although the ideas of Pobedonostsev are reasonable, but idealistic ...
                Quote: Campanella
                Yes, think and speak as you like.

                Oh thank you! bully
                Quote: Campanella
                Your research has nothing to do with real events.

                if you yourself do not understand, this does not mean that others ... crying
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA April 3 2020 18: 51 New
    -1
    Quote: ser56
    so it was in the USSR ...

    Not just in the USSR, but when father of nations и best crisis manager.
    In those days, secluded, now almost epic, I had to dismantle the battleship already begun by the construction on the slipway due to the marriage on the rivet.
    1. ser56
      ser56 April 3 2020 18: 54 New
      -1
      Quote: Alexey RA
      on a slipway the battleship already begun by construction.

      and not only - KR pr. 68 - too ....
      You can remember the blast furnace in Magnitogorsk, which was destroyed by the launch in the winter .... request
    2. antique
      antique April 3 2020 20: 21 New
      0
      Well, how not to remember. There is something to recall.

      1. TiRex
        TiRex April 4 2020 19: 38 New
        +2
        But is it that the vast majority of these plants were purely subsidized even under the USSR? Yes, and they were already collapsed by 97-98gg. And if you take into account that the products of most of them nafig nobody needed in those years (and even now with rare exceptions), then their fate is logical. To develop production in the buildings of the early Soviet construction is very stupid, the standards and norms of production, to put it mildly, have changed greatly over the past decades from their construction. When the question arose of the production of the S-400 at the machine plant in Nizhny Novgorod, it turned out to be much cheaper to build and operate new buildings than to reconstruct the old (which many are empty) workshops. And so in almost all plants.
        1. antique
          antique April 4 2020 21: 53 New
          -1
          Quote: TiRex
          Yes, and they were already collapsed by 97-98gg.

          The activist’s standard response. How many have I seen them. All this is a Kremlin lie. Primakov in 1998 which industry you raised, the one which you no longer have. All this killing Putin did. Energy reform and WTO accession. These are the main reasons for the destruction of our industrial potential ..
          1. TiRex
            TiRex April 4 2020 22: 43 New
            0
            I agree on the reform of the energy sector, pidas, especially Chubais, do not quite agree about Primakov, he’s still a shot ...
          2. Boris Chernikov
            Boris Chernikov April 5 2020 00: 19 New
            0
            lol, here it turns out .. lifted .. and why raised so badly produced? It seems that the 16-year-old communist writes)
      2. mister-red
        mister-red April 4 2020 21: 45 New
        +3
        I will not comment on everything, it is long and tiring, as well as to no avail. Just clause 1 - AZLK. Like he was "killed" in 2010. Tell this to Muscovites, especially those who worked there. Never a Muscovite, but he lived and worked in Moscow in the 90s. I often took a bus past the plant's territory, it is there for many kilometers. Everything was littered with cars that no one bought. They stood for several years, in winter under snow and the rest of the time watered with rains. The last pshik some type of business and executive cars that no one needed. A monster that never produced anything. The plant died under Yeltsin, under Putin the pathologist simply stated this death.
        1. antique
          antique April 4 2020 22: 31 New
          -2
          I have participated many times in similar discussions. All that is written is not true. Putin destroyed the entire industry. This is an objective thing. No need to protect. This is a student of Yeltsin, whose best friend is Chubais.
          1. TiRex
            TiRex April 5 2020 00: 00 New
            +3
            Tell me, if you are offered now a 72 cm picture tube made in Russia from the oldest plant (for example Nitel) for 25000r or for the same money 32 "LCD Samsung or LG what will you buy yourself?
            and you did suggest that at all costs it is necessary to support production, what kind of TV you have, 99% that is not from a Russian company of Russian manufacture. Well, you yourself didn’t buy ours? patriot dick ...
            this is why these plants were bent, nobody wanted their products simply, or rather the demand was vanishingly small, and subsidies from the state ended. So far, AvtoVAZ hasn’t been driven by the French how many billions have been driven into it because it is a city-forming enterprise on the state balance sheet? How much stink was there on the net?
          2. Boris Chernikov
            Boris Chernikov April 5 2020 00: 21 New
            +2
            did you even watch your table?) lol
      3. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov April 5 2020 00: 16 New
        +2
        Is it direct 78 thousand factories and factories? Is it 917 factories and factories in each region? And can we find out in our Oryol region where 917 factories were and were closed?
  • Campanella
    Campanella April 3 2020 19: 27 New
    +3
    And whose gray, disenfranchised life in Russia, whose shoals are we closing now? Your objectivity is very peculiar. Do you also objectively evaluate modern Russian power? Or do you always criticize the current government in order to avoid the Maidan?
    1. ser56
      ser56 April 3 2020 20: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Campanella
      And his gray, disenfranchised life in Russia

      write about yourself? bully I sympathize - have you tried to work?
      Quote: Campanella
      You also objectively evaluate modern Russian power

      the only way! Want to talk about her jambs? not a problem - pension reform, VAT increase, strange policy of the Central Bank, etc. request
      Quote: Campanella
      Or do you always criticize the current government in order to avoid the Maidan?

      criticism and Maidan is different! I note that you need to protect your rights from the authorities, there are various ways for this, including rallies, but legal!
      1. Campanella
        Campanella April 4 2020 13: 57 New
        0
        I tried to work, it doesn’t help. And to steal as some are not accustomed.
        Do you think that if we talk about the problems of the Russian government, they will evaporate by themselves?
        Or will legal rallies affect something? I remember only one example of an unauthorized action that forced the authorities to change their minds — the blocking of the Leningradskoye highway by retirees, opponents of the monetization of benefits.
        1. ser56
          ser56 April 4 2020 17: 44 New
          0
          Quote: Campanella
          I tried to work, it does not help

          so you do not know how to work request
          Quote: Campanella
          And to steal like some are not accustomed.

          don’t twist - it’s very dangerous to steal if you don’t know how ... I don’t know how, so I work ... repeat
          Quote: Campanella
          Do you think that if we talk about the problems of the Russian government, they will evaporate by themselves?

          no, but if you don’t speak and protest, then nothing will change ... request
          Quote: Campanella
          -overlapping of the Leningradskoye highway by pensioners, opponents of the monetization of benefits.

          1) do you like maidan more? Benefits monetized - mom gets a surcharge ... In my opinion it's better ...
          2) By the way - did not go in the morning in the 90s in the crowded trams these pensioners climbed into - went to look for where it is cheaper - did they have free travel? And they had no time to wait for the passage of the peak hour. request
          1. Campanella
            Campanella April 4 2020 22: 31 New
            0
            I did not say that I like the Maidan, but the fact that the authorities do me do not like either.
            As for work, it's not for you to judge how I did it.
            Pensioners may be annoying, but they have their own lives, become a pensioner will set an example of social behavior)))
          2. ser56
            ser56 April 5 2020 15: 21 New
            +1
            Quote: Campanella
            As for work, it's not for you to judge how I did it.

            I proceed from your words ....
            Quote: Campanella
            I tried to work, it does not help

            Quote: Campanella
            but they have their own life, become a pensioner will set an example of social behavior

            that’s the problem - we don’t want to think about others, but we demand from others ... request
            I got a decree, so I’ll work ... hi
          3. Campanella
            Campanella April 5 2020 15: 38 New
            0
            And I’m already retired, honestly worked for 43 years, but I didn’t make a fortune on a comfortable old age.
          4. ser56
            ser56 April 5 2020 15: 59 New
            0
            Quote: Campanella
            but good did not make a comfortable old age

            what prevented? my mother receives a pension of almost 25 tons, she has enough ... well, I help, on trifles ... hi
          5. Campanella
            Campanella April 5 2020 16: 37 New
            0
            Privatization prevented gangster capitalism.
            After 91 years, the people simply survived. At 20 with a tail you won’t giggle, housing and communal services paid and live further as you want.
            You yourself will understand this over time.
          6. ser56
            ser56 April 5 2020 16: 55 New
            0
            Quote: Campanella
            At 20 with a tail you won’t giggle, housing and communal services paid and live further as you want.

            Listen - are you driving a fool? bully if you have 2, then in the winter housing and communal services 5t, in summer less ... 15t is more than 150 rubles in the USSR, and the pension there was 120 rubles for most ... request
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA April 3 2020 18: 48 New
    0
    Quote: Antique
    The designer will not rack his brains at night, and the worker will simply hammer a bolt that does not twist.

    Mwa ha ha ... when examining the serial T-34s of the spring of 1941, it was found that most of the bolts were clogged with a sledgehammer for 2/3 of the length, and only the remaining third of the thread was wrapped.

    And about the designers who puzzled at night and designed a 46-48-ton HF with a suspension and transmission, originally designed for 40 tons, and with the drive of a 7-ton tower, taken from a 3-tower T-28, I generally keep quiet.
    As well as about the persistence of LKZ and Kharkov, they refused or delayed work on UKN on their tanks. In general, the LKZ did not manage to eliminate a single drawback during all the pre-war time - that in 1940, that in 1941 the cooling system continued to boil at KV at 24 km / h, wedge the brakes when turning, gear teeth crumble in the gearbox, the tower does not turn when roll, clogged air filters after a half to two hours of travel along the lane.
    1. Campanella
      Campanella April 3 2020 19: 32 New
      +2
      You talk about the resource of German tanks.
      1. ser56
        ser56 April 3 2020 20: 23 New
        -3
        Quote: Campanella
        You talk about the resource of German tanks.

        But what is the problem with the T-3 or T-4? At first, tigers and panthers had problems - but they are not comparable with the T-34 release 41-42gg request Read Svirin ...
        1. Campanella
          Campanella April 4 2020 13: 36 New
          +1
          Read Speer ...
          Tanks that passed through the summer steppes to Stalingrad required major repairs.
          1. ser56
            ser56 April 4 2020 17: 35 New
            -3
            Quote: Campanella
            Tanks that passed through the summer steppes to Stalingrad required major repairs.

            scary for you! crying already a Nazi for you the highest authority ... bully
            1. Campanella
              Campanella April 4 2020 22: 08 New
              -1
              Thank you for your concern, think about yourself! You I look a hypocrite.
            2. ser56
              ser56 April 5 2020 15: 14 New
              0
              Quote: Campanella
              You I look a hypocrite.

              call names are not good ... repeat
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 4 2020 01: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: Campanella
      You talk about the resource of German tanks.

      Normal resource - German engines began to crumble en masse only after Smolensk. And in comparison with our "100 hours at the stand, 50-60 hours in parts" - so generally an excellent resource.
      Why was it so bad with the resource in parts? And nobody complied with the patamushta maintenance requirements - for example, about the need to change the oil after 10 - 25 - 50 hours of operation, and a complete change - draining the oil from the oil tanks and the crankcase with subsequent flushing of the oil system and refueling with fresh oil. In our parts, even the fuel was not filtered - to speed up refueling.

      And you can also recall such cute features of the serial B-2 as "oil-eating" (because of which it was necessary to introduce an "oil power reserve"), voracity in fuel (the power reserve of the serial T-34 of the spring 1941 release - 165-185 km) and a shortage of 7-10% of the power (ICH, the German "Maybach" when measuring power in the USSR using the same methods issued 8% more passports).
      1. Reklastik
        Reklastik April 4 2020 11: 13 New
        +3
        A normal resource - German engines began to crumble en masse only after Smolensk
        - an excellent resource measure: "To Smolensk" laughing No, I'm not joking, just made laugh)))
      2. Campanella
        Campanella April 4 2020 13: 50 New
        -1
        But General Ryabyshev D.I. in 8, the commander of the Mechkorpus did not speak about T1941 breakdowns, cars with mileage of over 34 km of old tank models broke down.
        And overheating of engines is a topic that was also relevant for German tanks. So do not drive the blizzard.
        1. ser56
          ser56 April 4 2020 17: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: Campanella
          with mileage of over 500 km of old tank models.

          tanks measured engine life, not mileage ... hi
          1. Campanella
            Campanella April 4 2020 22: 20 New
            0
            The gauge was measured in hours, and in the memoirs the general said about the run, though up to 500 km in the early days of the war.
            The old tanks had a resource at the beginning of the war in the region of 50% and they forced the entrance of forced marches without proper maintenance, which is 40-50% of the total number. So to say that the Soviet tanks were not reliable is not necessary.
          2. ser56
            ser56 April 5 2020 15: 18 New
            0
            Quote: Campanella
            The resource is then measured in hours

            measured .... there was a device, Kalashnikov invented it ... repeat

            Quote: Campanella
            in memoirs, the general said about mileage

            and how did he measure it? or well ... covered up - is the paint technique to blame for everything? request

            Quote: Campanella
            they are entering forced marches without proper maintenance

            why did you plan such marches? request
            Quote: Campanella
            So to say that the Soviet tanks were not reliable is not necessary.

            I talked about the T-34, T-26 and BT were worked out and mastered .... request
          3. Campanella
            Campanella April 5 2020 15: 28 New
            0
            These are memoirs. Read carefully, the beginning of the war. And this is exactly the time when the general command and control of the troops was lost, so the commanders rushed about ...
            There were about a hundred T-34 machines in the mechanized corps, so there were no problems with them.
          4. ser56
            ser56 April 5 2020 15: 57 New
            0
            Quote: Campanella
            And this is exactly the time when the general command and control of the troops was lost, so the commanders rushed about ...

            But is it not the duty of commanders to provide control over the entrusted troops? request
            Quote: Campanella
            There were about a hundred T-34 machines in the mechanized corps, so there were no problems with them.

            therefore, under Brody our lost 2000, and the Germans 200 tanks? hi
          5. Campanella
            Campanella April 5 2020 16: 27 New
            0
            Read carefully, "general management". It means that communication with the general staff was lost.
  • antique
    antique April 3 2020 20: 35 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Mwa ha ha ... when examining the serial T-34s of the spring of 1941, it was found that most of the bolts were clogged with a sledgehammer for 2/3 of the length, and only the remaining third of the thread was wrapped.

    In other words, either saboteurs or saboteurs did this during the war. And the repression against the so-called workers was completely justified. This is the first.
    And now the second. The beautiful Putin power brought the country to technical perfection. The insoles for shoes are no longer sewn in the country and they are not able to create an automatic machine for the manufacture of medical masks. Not to mention more complex products. Type of ship banal diesel. Which does not succumb in any way to effective managers.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 4 2020 01: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Antique
      In other words, either saboteurs or saboteurs did this during the war.

      This was done before the war. Ordinary workers, whom he urged His Majesty's plan.
      Quote: Antique
      Not to mention more complex products. Type of ship banal diesel

      Ship diesel. Which differs from the ship like a tank from a tractor.
      1. antique
        antique April 4 2020 10: 21 New
        -1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Ship diesel. Which differs from the ship like a tank from a tractor.

        You can call as you want. There is nothing to cling to words. However, professionals write like that. Cit. Ship dozen can produce only a dozen Russian enterprises, their production potential is well known. http://shipbuilding.ru/eng/articles/diesel_engine_crisis/
      2. Campanella
        Campanella April 4 2020 13: 53 New
        +1
        Right before the war! The repressions have gone since 1934 ...
      3. ser56
        ser56 April 4 2020 17: 38 New
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        This was done before the war. Ordinary workers whom His Majesty urged on a plan.

        Svirin described well how the T_26 production was launched, the marriage was sent as aids to study tanks in schools ...
  • ser56
    ser56 April 3 2020 17: 13 New
    -8
    Quote: Bar1
    All the problems of our people that the state is led by the wrong people and they are leading our people in the wrong direction.

    were from 1917 to 1991 ... request
  • Botanologist
    Botanologist April 3 2020 19: 14 New
    -1
    Quote: Bar1
    -We had ..., now we don’t have ....


    Before you carry the ravings, study the issue that is so easily discussed. Here and without your snot there is enough relaxing algae.
    1. Bar1
      Bar1 April 3 2020 22: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Botanologist
      Before you carry the ravings, study the issue that is so easily discussed. Here and without your snot there is enough relaxing algae.

      for people like you, you like it.
  • Militia
    Militia April 3 2020 22: 54 New
    -3
    Therefore, there is nothing of their own, because people who TE already ruled the state in the 90s. And as they believed, they are leading our people in that direction. Therefore, the country was in the anus. Yeltsin, Gaidar, Chubais, Berezovsky, Kozyrev, Gerashchenko, Shokhin, Burbulis, Kasyanov - do you think those people ??? (the list goes on and on). And the leader of this EBN brigade admitted so honestly that he was already tired of leading this terry gang and it was time for him to rest. Now it’s easy and easy to blame today's government and the president for all sins, because they gave you freedom of speech and democracy. And it burst through you like a fecal pipe. What is the problem? What do not like? A flag in your hands and forward to your beloved liberal west! And from there, like Khodorkovsky, Kasparov, etc. scratch about freedom there and not freedom here. Such liberals as you, 3-5% of the country's population do not need to say for 95% of the people how they spread rot and oppress it.
    I foresee that now comrades who are TE will be tightened up and the orgy of freedom of speech will begin. Well, that's fine.
  • mister-red
    mister-red April 4 2020 21: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: Bar1
    Now we do not have aircraft manufacturing.

    In 2018, the volume of production in the Russian aviation industry amounted to 987 billion rubles ($ 15,7 billion), the export of aircraft - 380 billion rubles ($ 6 billion)
    Quote: Bar1
    Now we do not have automotive industry.

    In 2019, 1,77 million cars were produced in Russia
    .
    well, etc.
    That is, it will be correct to say that the industry has read a lot in comparison with the USSR, but not that there are none at all. With the exception of the electronics industry
    PS By the way cars in 1982, for example, 1,3 million were produced.
  • About 2
    About 2 April 5 2020 06: 57 New
    -1
    My friend, the sun-kissing guarantor of the oligarchs' good life, somehow didn’t cleverly notice that in the days of the USSR there was nothing they could do except galoshes, but even galoshes and those in China were bought with him.
  • Campanella
    Campanella April 3 2020 19: 47 New
    +2
    "Reorganization to more efficient forms of management" is you beautifully bent. Have fun!
  • Jager
    Jager April 4 2020 18: 42 New
    0
    Is this because we have only Hyundai and Volvo tractors?
  • About 2
    About 2 April 5 2020 06: 48 New
    -1
    The company ended up ruining Vova, but they still had no time to fight.
  • wolf20032
    wolf20032 April 7 2020 12: 21 New
    -1
    At the expense of Russia. All his well-being is built on cheap oil supplied from Russia.
  • Bar1
    Bar1 April 3 2020 08: 55 New
    -4
    there is NO EPIDEMIC in Belarus, there are only a few sick people, so the mass events have not been canceled, for example, the football championship. Does this somehow contradict what the media shows us and in general, how can this be? There is only one answer, Lukashenko is not included in the team that is playing a play about this pandemic.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV April 3 2020 10: 09 New
      +7
      There is no epidemic ... well, yes, in Italy and Spain, too, they laughed ... for today 254 and almost 2000 are already under observation ... and football still comes around
      1. Bar1
        Bar1 April 3 2020 10: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        There is no epidemic ... well, yes, in Italy and Spain, too, they laughed ... for today 254 and almost 2000 are already under observation ... and football still comes around

        wait and see...
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets April 3 2020 14: 25 New
          -5
          I think that in Belarus they simply did not ruin medicine. It will be very interesting if Lukashenko copes with the coronovirus without any quarantine.
    2. ser56
      ser56 April 3 2020 17: 26 New
      0
      Quote: Bar1
      There is only one answer, Lukashenko is not included in the team that is playing a play about this pandemic.

      no matter how it responded to the victims ....
      "According to the Telegram-channel NEXTA, at least 22 deaths from pneumonia were registered in Vitebsk over the past week, and the number of cases exceeded 1000. The bodies of the deceased are taken out at night, relatives cannot immediately pick them up." https://charter97.org/ru/news/2020/3/31/371380/
      lie?
      1. valton
        valton April 3 2020 18: 19 New
        +2
        Obviously, father is already in a panic from what is happening. But with his attitude towards the epidemic, it seems that all the horror is yet to come. It is a pity that everyone but him will be to blame.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets April 3 2020 21: 39 New
          0
          Quote: valton
          Obviously, father is already in a panic from what is happening. But with his attitude towards the epidemic, it seems that all the horror is yet to come. It is a pity that everyone but him will be to blame.

          Can I have a reference to panic?
          1. valton
            valton April 6 2020 21: 14 New
            0
            https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/04/06/iz-za-koronavirusa-na-lukashenko-trebuyut-vozbudit-ugolovnoe-delo
    3. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
      Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) April 4 2020 17: 12 New
      0
      And Iran is playing, yeah.
    4. mister-red
      mister-red April 4 2020 21: 49 New
      0
      Well, there was another one, called Boris Johnson. I did not last much, even he fell ill. She cracks in Belarus specifically, you have no doubt.
      Although Old Man is just a good thing compared to the Swedes, here they are setting up a real experiment for you. It’s even interesting what will come out in the end.
  • nickname7
    nickname7 April 4 2020 18: 23 New
    0
    A small clarification, imperial nostalgia is the wrong term, imperialism is power and control, friendship and fraternity are more a union.
  • Boris Chernikov
    Boris Chernikov April 5 2020 00: 13 New
    0
    sight in fact and we are doing now)
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty April 3 2020 05: 15 New
    +9
    Lukashenka has no replacement, he also longs for "zeroing out", and will be a permanent handler until his little son grows up. ..
    1. DMB 75
      DMB 75 April 3 2020 05: 49 New
      +8
      Lukashenko and Putin are in many ways very different, even contrasting types. And at the same time, all authoritarian leaders are terribly similar to each other, in particular, in that they calmly bend the law for themselves. Putin brewed porridge with amendments to the constitution in order to solve the problem-2024 (the constitution did not allow more than two presidents to run for president once in a row). He let go of the fog, made us all puzzle over which chair he would be seated in, and eventually went to the banal reset of the presidential term for himself. Lukashenko solved this problem back in 2004, when he lifted the limit on the number of presidential terms through a referendum. And even earlier, in 1996, he also dragged through the plebiscite the new version of the 1994 constitution. So, one field of berries. In our former union in general, starting from 20 years old, the gold standard of the post-Soviet tsar - Niyazov was in power for 21 years, Karimov 25 years old, Nazarbayev 30 years, Lukashenko a quarter of a century, ours is now there too - well, they love power, at least crack ..
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. April 3 2020 09: 29 New
        +7
        Quote: DMB 75
        And at the same time, all authoritarian leaders are terribly similar to each other, in particular, in that they calmly bend the law for themselves.

        This material came out on time ...
        Just when the State Defense Committee (with the coronavirus) was formed.
        Now only the terms "authoritarianism" and "leader" are discussed.
        And now in essence.
        (Leaders) They do not bend the law, but the people. Bad or good, again, you need to ask the people.
        If the ideal of striving for Victory lives among the people, then the leader’s activity is evaluated according to an understandable end result.
        If the "people" are interested in who will win the elections (how to win the elections), then this is about the historically losers.

        In general, under conditions of democratic procedures, the "leader" is a first-class politician who has won the highest authority among the people.
        It is unfortunate that after I.V. Stalin in the Soviet Union was not a real leader.

        S V.V. Putin is clear. And who is not clear, go to the polls and make sure that there is a leader in Russia.
        A.G. We liked Lukashenko for so long ... And that person was reborn? No.
        Has the situation seriously changed? No.
        Why do weird talk about Lukashenko, the patron saint of nationalists?

        Personally, my opinion is that too many magazines work out grants and wishful thinking. Can coronavirus help our peoples get rid of arsonists and incendiary?
        1. TAMBU
          TAMBU April 3 2020 11: 14 New
          +2
          Can coronavirus help our peoples get rid of arsonists and incendiary?

          "We cannot wait for favors from nature, it is our task to take them from her" (c))))
      2. Alexga
        Alexga April 3 2020 15: 46 New
        0
        And even earlier, in 1996, he also dragged through the plebiscite a new version of the 1994 constitution.

        And what is wrong with that Constitution?
      3. Pissarro
        Pissarro April 4 2020 21: 58 New
        +2
        In our former union in general, starting from the age of 20, the gold standard of the post-Soviet tsar


        In our former Union, in addition to the standard of the tsar, there are exactly half of the countries with the standard of frequent change of power: Moldova, Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia, Georgia, Baltic extinctions. The alternative, as they say, is obvious: degradation, corruption and the collapse of everything. The kings are clearly against their background smoking on the sidelines
    2. Oleg2003
      Oleg2003 April 3 2020 11: 12 New
      +2
      Kolenka ok for all definitions
  • Far B
    Far B April 3 2020 05: 19 New
    +5
    And how does Luke differ from our zeroed one? Except that he doesn't have so many places to show off (well, catch an amphora in the sea or something). And so everything is the same - PR is crazy. Perlov and Putin give out enough, just one definition of "middle class" is worth what. Oh, yes. Rygorych himself, nevertheless, formalized an indefinite number of presidential terms through a referendum, but ours did not even bother about the referendum. Well, in this Putin has even plugged Venezuela and Bolivia into the belt.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 3 2020 08: 11 New
      -2
      Quote: Dalny V
      And how does Luke differ from our zeroed one?

      The fact that he has oligarchs working for the good of the country, and not in his own pocket. With all the hops and shortcomings, Lukashenko looks much better than Putin, judging by the actions for the benefit of his country.
      1. Oleg2003
        Oleg2003 April 3 2020 11: 14 New
        0
        Does Luke look good? When did these beggars and blackmailers look good?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 3 2020 16: 40 New
          +5
          Quote: Oleg2003
          Does Luke look good?
          Everything is relative. wink
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV April 3 2020 05: 36 New
    +2
    Well, of course, at first the Old Man’s apologists came to his defense .... well, well, we are waiting for the other side
    1. SNEAKY
      SNEAKY April 3 2020 08: 08 New
      +2
      hi Briefly. I don’t want (I'm afraid) to even return to Belarus so far. Because of this, the virologist-geneticist director’s gender will now fall into the peat bog. And the main thing is elections and football. He wanted to spit on the people (s)
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 3 2020 08: 19 New
        +4
        Quote: SNEAKY
        Because of this, now the head of the virologist-genetics, the sex of the republic will fall into the peat layer

        In Sweden, they don’t know the same thing about the virus? wink
        1. Ros 56
          Ros 56 April 3 2020 08: 47 New
          +2
          Find out everything in due time.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 3 2020 08: 51 New
            +5
            Quote: Ros 56
            Find out everything in due time.

            They refused to enter quarantine, specifying that they made such a decision on the basis of the conclusions of Swedish scientists. Those. not just a whim in the head hit. You need to look at mortality statistics. hi
  • Mastrer
    Mastrer April 3 2020 05: 37 New
    +9
    Well, I don’t know ... Somehow far-fetched. There are a lot of stocks for father, but not one is designated in this article. As if the article was ordered to a person completely unrelated to the Republic of Belarus ...

    The author seems to be crushing that the AG is such a short-sighted collective farm chairman, close to the people, but managing to get out of the presidency. For 26 years, yeah ...

    The fact that Lukashenko mows under the village fool does not mean that he is such a person - he is a tough person who managed to bend the Russian Federation and the European Union for himself in a suitable political situation (well, or to scoop up tons of profit from each of them, optionally). This virus situation is no more than one of hundreds of episodes that have already been played. I would not promise that the last (! Cake) dictator of Europe, lost his grip.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 3 2020 08: 46 New
      -4
      And what is not indicated? That he, as the head of state, traveled only on the horrors of what is being done in Russia? Well, now is not the 1996th year, and Russia, with all its expenditures for the Caucasus, for the Far Eastern hills, basic science, space, the armed forces, including nuclear forces, is already living much better than Belarus. But the bagpipes are the same.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir April 3 2020 05: 54 New
    16
    Once the visitors to the VO decided to put the minuses. Return the opportunity to put minuses to the authors.
    Well, in fact, articles in which there are only enemies around were happy. From this, our rulers do not get better.
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim April 3 2020 08: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Gardamir
      Well, in fact, articles in which there are only enemies around were happy. From this, our rulers do not get better.

      When I started reading the article, I thought that Oleg Yegorov wrote again, he is here an ardent "admirer" of Lukashenka and there are many articles about Rygorych on his VO. With surprise at the end I saw the author of the East Wind. You can scold or praise the author, but what I want to say, I do not remember a single article where Lukashenka was praised for his wise foreign policy, brilliant economic strategy. There is no need to write on what the relatively acceptable standard of living of Belarusians is based on, everyone already knows, about potatoes, about shredded cows, collapsed Orsha factories are also not needed, about the successful Belaz, MAZ, Belkali, BelAES everyone knows. The author tried to simply trace Lukashenko from the time of Yeltsin to the present day. In my opinion rather weak.
    2. Caretaker
      Caretaker April 3 2020 08: 41 New
      +2
      Paradoxically, in recent years, articles on VO have often criticized Lukashenko than Zelensky and Trump. It seems that the president of the Republic of Belarus has not made any resonant statements recently, but he is guilty anyway.
      In terms of the degree of "harmfulness" for the authors of VO, it came in second after the coronavirus. As in the United States, remember - terrorists, Russia, etc.
      1. Campanella
        Campanella April 3 2020 11: 43 New
        +6
        This is a useful theory of relativity! If one politician cannot be ruined, then the other will look young and talented and eternal!)))
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx April 3 2020 06: 00 New
    10
    And all this is by no means some kind of sudden outbreak of a confused person - it is a principle of action, a natural outburst of a political career. This political dementia will continue to gain momentum.

    Here it is a fresh rush of East Wind. fellow So blew, as if passed by a pigsty. Today, right now, we are acutely concerned about the situation in Belarus and the political myopia of its leader. How glad it is to hear the opinion of a man who fell into the toilet about a man who fell into a cesspool ...
    Yes, the political dementia of Lukashenko, the president of a country where there is not even access to the sea, where there are no natural reserves of hydrocarbons of various fractions and conditions, where there are no reserves of ores, timber and even fish (!!!) where there are limited reserves of fresh water and land allotments, nothing in comparison with the political insanity of the fabulous nullified guarantor, who turned the country, all of which has it, into a beggar.
    A small, but very harmful and dangerous infection showed the true strength of the power clamps of the country, where there are no masks or single gloves in pharmacies, and the panacea for the virus is “self-isolation” ...
    How much more do we need to rub this cheap profanity about half-wits-neighbors? What celery do we need?
    Here it is - the immediate prospect for Russia: zeroing the NWF to cover the losses of oligarchs and banks (which, however, is one and the same); decline in already sluggish production; financial problems of the population and increased unemployment.
    The threads with which the power vertical was sewn turned out to be rotten.
    BUT!!! We should know that it is in Belarus and it is A. Lukashenko. gone crazy... wassat What a shame ... crying
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 3 2020 08: 51 New
      -3
      Can i ask you? And when, including the head of the BSSR, he signed the Bialowieza Agreements, why there were no questions that in Belarus there were no minerals or access to the sea, there was nothing but the final assembly plants built in the USSR, for which the USSR was the only market?

      Well, if you are homeless, then you do not need to record all of Russia as beggars.
      1. Caretaker
        Caretaker April 3 2020 09: 59 New
        +5
        Quote: EvilLion
        ... And when, including the head of the BSSR, he signed the Bialowieza Agreements,

        Now it’s clear, you think that it was Lukashenko who signed the Bialowieza Agreement.
        You are mistaken, those who signed for a long time are no longer in the power structures, in any of the three countries.
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion April 3 2020 12: 20 New
          -1
          Is Lukashenko against these agreements? On the contrary, he constantly pokes us with his sovereignty. So he approves them. So let him and you decide either Belarus is sovereign and then it’s not our problem that there is nothing there, or it can’t be without Russia, and then Oleg Egorov is absolutely right when he mocks that a whole Belarusian state should be fenced around two oil refineries.
          1. Caretaker
            Caretaker April 3 2020 12: 32 New
            +4
            Quote: EvilLion
            ... he constantly pokes us ...

            To whom does it poke and in what is it expressed?
            Quote: EvilLion
            ... by its sovereignty ...

            So it seems that Russia does not intend to give up sovereignty.
            Did you read the draft amendments to the constitution or did you skip the discussion in the heat of the controversy?
    2. Oleg2003
      Oleg2003 April 3 2020 11: 18 New
      -7
      And where are there no masks and gloves? Specifically
  • Oleg Skvortsov
    Oleg Skvortsov April 3 2020 06: 30 New
    +1
    M-dya, a very irrelevant article, as if the Belarusian opposition wrote. And can you write about the 90s of V. Putin, when he still walked in a raspberry-colored jacket?
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ April 3 2020 08: 02 New
      +6
      Another custom article on VO. It’s even a shame for the author - after all, he wrote good historical articles about the Caucasus - did he really do that?
    2. Ivan Kolodin
      Ivan Kolodin April 3 2020 08: 40 New
      +1
      Yes, for many, the shock will be that the expensive GDP, he did in St. Petersburg, how he shared the port, how he promoted the interests of criminal authorities, how the largest enterprises of the city and the region privatized with his participation .... What did his accomplices do and where did the Rotenberg brothers, Zolotov come from .. Against their background, the old man pressed all the crime in Belarus to the nail and did not fraternize with them
    3. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 3 2020 08: 54 New
      -3
      No one is interested in what Putin wore in the 90s, and what he thought then. Stalin in his youth could subscribe to the "ex", it is interesting what Putin has done in 20 years. And he did a lot, but he just didn't do heaven. This is yes, a flaw. Unforgivable.
  • parusnik
    parusnik April 3 2020 07: 00 New
    11
    "Everyone holds his fatherland!" (The congress of princes in Lyubec in 1097) ... Here is the LAS and holds ... smile
  • Egoza
    Egoza April 3 2020 07: 29 New
    11
    But in Ukraine, we would be happy to have such a president as Lukashenko, but alas! We’ll ask him - he won’t take it!
    1. JD1979
      JD1979 April 3 2020 15: 24 New
      +1
      Damn, so invite to your place) we are only for)) You will have a duet - Luka-Klitschko, just manage to record pearls or clutch your head))). All you need to know about his management is that he managed to almost bankrupt Belaruskali)) like the 3rd place in the world in the production of fertilizers. It’s interesting how this was possible at all, with steady demand and an established work process, from the 2nd place in taxes to the bottom for the year ... Well, the only country in the post-Soviet space where the rate of national coupons (we still have no money)) difference from Russia and Ukraine) collapsed 10 times. Do you still want to have one?
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 April 3 2020 08: 04 New
    10
    Without going into the economic and political abilities of Lukashenko,
    I personally would credit him with the fact that during his reign the people of Belarus did not suffer the fate of participating in any military conflicts, both on the territory of the country and beyond.
    1. knn54
      knn54 April 3 2020 08: 33 New
      11
      Not one collective farm / state farm has collapsed. Enterprises are working. I think that the special services, in particular the KGB, took the best who were expelled by Kravchuk and EBN in the early 90's. I personally knew several of these officers. I defeated the separatism of the Poles in the west of the country, crime, which was very rampant in the 90s on the roads of the republic.
      I recall a case when in some area due to rains there was little rain. Two sacks of potatoes, a bag of beets and carrots were brought to each hut.
      Colorful, but far from stupid politician.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 3 2020 12: 24 New
        -3
        The only interesting thing is how much these enterprises will still work when their replenishment from Russia ceases. A closed system, only at the expense of its internal energy, cannot do work forever. And the profitability of old Soviet factories in the current realities is negative. As for the state farm, the modern agricultural holding is organized in exactly the same way. People in it go to work on schedule and receive salaries. Collective farms, by the way, have not been canceled in Russia; in various sectors this form of cooperation still exists.
  • Soviet Union
    Soviet Union April 3 2020 08: 11 New
    +7
    In general, it’s true ... only it’s emotionally perceived as with spoons (found, but the sediment remains), here is the wind ...... not east, but rather anal.
  • Topol M
    Topol M April 3 2020 08: 31 New
    +1
    Commentators! If you like AG so much, take it to yourself, and in the next election we will choose a normal president. We are already tired of this nonsense that rushes from each iron, treated with vodka, a bathhouse and a tractor. It hides the whole truth about the coronovirus, and the people get sick.
  • g_ae
    g_ae April 3 2020 08: 32 New
    +7
    Today I realized what publication of similar articles about our dad looks like (although I am not at all a fan of him). This is similar to the reaction of a man who farted in a confined space, and pointedly holding his nose accuses the neighbors that he was spoiled by air. It is no coincidence that after yesterday's unconvincing, to put it mildly, speech of the Russian president article came out. Like, so what, that we are waist-deep in sewage. But the neighbors are head over heels. Here it is greatness. Someone else will remember about the allies? During the time when Lukashenko profiled millions, Vladimir Vladimirovich and his friends managed to fall in love with billions in a shorter time. This is greatness. And to whom much has been given, there is more demand. And pay attention that we are a gas station country (we have 3 plants), but Russia has become a pipe country with a tap due to GDP. This is greatness.
    I don’t want to offend anyone, but how did everything get tired.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV April 3 2020 10: 14 New
      -2
      You want to say that in Russia there is no refinery ???
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 3 2020 12: 27 New
        +1
        Yeah, and every day I drive to work past the wasteland, and the endless areas of Nizhnekamskneftekhim, which produce 100500 types of products. However, there is also a gasoline plant here. And in Europe EMNIP half of diesel fuel is imported from Russia. It's just that life in the village makes people of Seluk, so they sit in their Belarusian village and talk about some refineries, which would have stood up long ago if they did not get oil at Russian prices.
      2. g_ae
        g_ae April 3 2020 13: 57 New
        +1
        That is, you would not mind a "gas station country". Okay. So be it. I do not mind.
  • prior
    prior April 3 2020 08: 43 New
    +4
    Author, this is shallow. Here you are not there, not in the Duma - not a ride.
    If you want to whitewash your fucked up threesome from the Lake cooperative - you should not spoil the address of another, more successful one. I would have told better about breakthroughs, national projects, Skolkovo victories ....
    Lukashenko is neither a god nor an ideal, but for the welfare of the Belarusian people he did not bend under the Sechins-Mlechins, under whom you bent.
  • awdrgy
    awdrgy April 3 2020 09: 11 New
    +6
    Normal Lukashenko ruler Myself put in his place If only there were resources in the country like in Russia I think the question of who should join someone would be stupid But we have what we have However sarcasm in this situation looks dishonest and stupid
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim April 3 2020 09: 38 New
      -6
      Quote: awdrgy
      Normal ruler Lukashenko .... If only the country had resources like in Russia

      Post-socialist countries of Europe, such as the Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia ... do not have oil, gas, timber, or ore, but the standard of living is many times higher than in Belarus. We will not talk about Russia - the damned 90s, the dominance of the almighty oligarchs, the looting of the country, corruption and crime. But this was not the case in Belarus, he kept the factories, he kept the collective farms, he doesn’t have oligarchs, he fights corruption, he even shot the criminals on the roads, he regularly received economic assistance from Russia, so the Belarusian lives many times worse than a Czech, Slovak or Hungarian. Is it really about resources ???
      1. g_ae
        g_ae April 3 2020 09: 48 New
        +6
        Would you like to say that betting on an alliance with Russia was a tragic mistake !? So it turns out that the Ukrainian non-brothers in their refusal to join the CU and the desire for the West are not so wrong? Oh God!
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim April 3 2020 10: 02 New
          -4
          Quote: g_ae
          Would you like to say that betting on an alliance with Russia was a tragic mistake !?

          I want to say that today it’s not resources that determine the well-being of the country, Lukashenko received all resources, loans, and subsidies from Russia, so why didn’t he use it, everything was like a black hole. Moreover, Lukashenko has always emphasized his independence from Russia. Once again I ask why there are no breakthroughs in the economy?
          1. g_ae
            g_ae April 3 2020 10: 34 New
            +5
            Forgive me, in the post-Soviet space it is the resource-rich countries that feel more or less confident (except for Russia, of course. But here, hello to the Ozero cooperative). And then there is no need to exaggerate the importance of loans, subsidies, resources. Loans have to be repaid, and interest is also dropped on them. Although the resources are cheaper for us, they are still more expensive than for the Russians, and this is with a single "economic space", that is, here we are definitely in a less advantageous position than the Russians. Not even equal. And what about subsidies? I am begging you. You have an average salary in the country of 38 thousand, the middle class with 17 thousand, 146% in the elections, they find an unprecedented rise in salaries, by 1000 rubles. retirees are fattening and traveling all over the world. Do you believe that? And all this is considered by the same people as our alleged subsidies. And than. Belarus was an assembly shop. And by turning Russia into a "great energy power" and by ruining your industry, you were destroying our final consumer as well. Moreover, in the process of "import substitution" our products are being replaced. And we have no other market. And in order to enter other markets, it turns out, it was necessary, like all the countries you listed, to flee from Russia and join the EU at any cost? This is how Ukraine is doing it now. I looked at the CU, looked at the EAEU and made obvious conclusions. Fuck them "Titanic". I am already silent about the union state.
            By the way, and what can help and what to explain articles of similar quality.
            Yes, this is our president. When dealing with cows, milkmaids and tractor drivers can’t get any gloss. Whether it’s the matter of managing an officer club in Dresden or studying denunciations of citizens against each other. Here and in culture and literature you will become profound. That is yes.
            1. Oleg2003
              Oleg2003 April 3 2020 11: 26 New
              +1
              Poor little thing, Russia subsidized Belarus annually for billions of dollars (oil and gas prices) for 30 years. And where are they? Why do citizens of Belarus leave for Russia, and not vice versa?
              1. g_ae
                g_ae April 3 2020 15: 53 New
                +5
                The question is different. Why Russian citizens are fleeing Russia. How can you not take any patriot, but he either has a second passport, or real estate, or even lives in Miami, and comes to Russia to cut some money like Mashkov, for example. And how what mayor or governor Edrosovsky drowns for Russia. And then resign and go to the damned West. And there the houses are waiting and the candle factory is in store, the account is tidy in the bank. And what are all the patriots. Especially enchanting one of the leaders of "Nashi" jumped to his historical homeland. And he was such a putriot. And then he regained his sight, said bitterly that Russia was no longer my mother, I did not want to ruin children's lives. And he got away. How so that !?
            2. JD1979
              JD1979 April 3 2020 16: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: g_ae
              Forgive me, in the post-Soviet space it is the resource-rich countries that feel more or less confident (except for Russia, of course. But here, hello to the Ozero cooperative).

              Which ones? Lists pliz? or is it a bunch in the air?

              Quote: g_ae
              Although resources are cheaper for us, they are still more expensive than for Russians, and this is with a single "economic space", that is, here we are definitely in a less advantageous position than the Russians. Not even equal.

              And with what fright should domestic prices be for an independent country? Are you sharing your wallet with a neighbor? I'm sure not, but you want something to be shared with you)))

              Quote: g_ae
              Here you have the average salary in the country of 38 thousand, the middle class at 17 thousand, 146% in the elections, the unprecedented increase in salaries is found at 1000 rubles. senior citizens live and travel around the world. Do you believe that?

              Here we are listening to the great and mustachioed average for several years already 1000 rubles ($ 500), do you believe that? ))) At the colleague, the house in the village 140 from Minsk - people take food for a bill, there is no work, the villages are dead. What does BT do not show? Something urot!

              Quote: g_ae
              And than. Belarus was an assembly shop. And by turning Russia into a "great energy power" and by ruining your industry, you also destroyed our end consumer. Moreover, in the process of "import substitution" our products are being replaced. And we have no other market.

              And that there was no import substitution in Belarus? ))) or is it only in a "country for life" it is possible, but Russia cannot support its manufacturer))) Double standards are they))) And who prevented from entering other markets?))) and you do not confuse the market with a place of begging for help )))
              Let me guess what interfered with the markets ... the range, quality and design of products from the middle of the last century))) Well, yes, if the equipment at MAZ, MTZ and other "Germans" remembered)))

              Quote: g_ae
              And in order to enter other markets, it turns out, it was necessary, like all the countries you listed, to flee from Russia and join the EU at any cost? This is how Ukraine is doing it now. I looked at the CU, looked at the EAEU and made obvious conclusions. Fuck them "Titanic".

              Ahah))) and how is Ukraine? got access to the EU market?))) Yeah, only quotas are selected in a week for the whole year))) And what are the Germans asking for this "Titanic" so they are jumping out of their pants?))) And they promise the transfer of technology, and 100% localization))), only they don’t take something)))

              Quote: g_ae
              I’m silent about the union state.
              By the way, and what can help and what to explain articles of similar quality.

              Allied, and then allied, to act together))), and it turned out that give loans, give oil and gas, but in return you don’t even need to thank you - like you have to, because brothers? It’s even elementary to support Russia in political matters about South Ossetia and the Crimea, someone crawled into the bushes. Something somehow doesn’t come out in an allied way, don’t you? Rather, it looks like dependency or parasitism)) for which an article in Belarus))

              Quote: g_ae
              Yes, this is our president. When dealing with cows, milkmaids and tractor drivers can’t get any gloss.

              Well ... yes, only here the main communication of the "highest" leader of the country is still not in the collective farm leader, but still in places where mere mortalism is not allowed, and with people who are supposed to have higher education, mental labor and organizational activity. With diplomats, leaders and senior officials of other countries. And now 20+ years have passed ... And the culture of speech has not changed))) as there was a collective farm that does not know how to talk to people, it has remained, only it has become even worse, tk. completely ceased to look after himself, or the last sensible advisers fled. It's just a shame for the nonsense that, in all seriousness, this creature is on the air. And this is a man who must weigh his every word ...

              Quote: g_ae
              Whether it’s the matter of managing an officer club in Dresden or studying denunciations of citizens against each other. Here and in culture and literature you will become profound. That is yes.

              In a country where, in leading positions in organizations, through one, or even each, a retired military-policeman-security guard himself and a bunch of sixes talk about culture and literature))) How much did you write yourself? And it’s a painfully folded text comes out))) Just like the daddy’s dear, you protect, if not him, then everything is gone))) Yeah, "I would have gone but the people are not admitted"))
      2. awdrgy
        awdrgy April 3 2020 09: 57 New
        +3
        All these Eastern European countries were actively assisted so that they would conduct an anti-Russian policy (albeit in long-term credit, but this is a different story). A separate column was the relative increase in the standard of living of the population so that it understood "what is good and what is bad" Yes, this is actually a secret openly "
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim April 3 2020 10: 13 New
          +4
          Quote: awdrgy
          All these Eastern European countries were actively helped in order to conduct anti-Russian politics.

          Over the past 10 years, Belarus has received from Russia subsidies, loans, preferences worth more than $ 100 billion. Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Crimea, Donbass, airbase, there is no support for Russia from the side of a balancer.
          1. awdrgy
            awdrgy April 3 2020 12: 57 New
            0
            That's right for what to eat, dress and heat just enough Well, a little for the development of production, defense and other necessary things Te just barely enough and not to "chocolate" for the population And in Eastern Europe they acted not only with money there went more cunning For example, no one after all I did not sign a document on anti-Russian policy, but on joining NATO, and this is much worse. The same is with help, not only finances, but also a certain policy that allows the population to get a relatively good job
          2. g_ae
            g_ae April 3 2020 12: 57 New
            +2
            Wow! As much as 100 billion. Why not 200? Let's just "stop" right away. The same reliable amount. I'm wondering how it was considered? I am sure that there will be specialists in the Belarusian government who can calculate how much Belarus has provided services and preferences to Russia. And everything will be logical and correct. And no one knows who will owe whom. These numbers are nothing. There is an opinion that the hungry should not be given fish, but rather give a fishing rod. In our case, a good uncle sells a fishing rod on credit, not for cheap, to the poor fellow, for which he will buy fish from him (of course, at his own price), and also sets a payment and a considerable one for fishing from the pond. And then he exclaims: "Oh, you ungrateful brute! I gave you so much money (credit plus interest), provided the market with a sales market (at your own price), and you're starving again !?"
            As for everything else, it's a simple question. What about the fig? Well, if someone, out of a feeling of their own coolness, falls asleep in their mouths or somewhere else, this does not mean that others should do the same. Moreover, if it will be painless and even pleasant to someone so cool because of the same size, then someone can glue flippers from such dubious "solidarity" and "support".
            Moreover, Abkhazia and South Ossetia did not flourish after that, not all Russian companies want to work in the Crimea, and Donbass (in the sense of New Russia) has just merged Russia. And negotiations are held in Minsk. Airbase? But the fig is needed here? Well, this is what she can protect me from in Minsk? Or you in Russia? Certainly does not protect from coronovirus? And what will happen after - see.
            1. Anatole Klim
              Anatole Klim April 3 2020 14: 49 New
              +1
              Quote: g_ae
              I’m wondering how it was considered? I am sure that there will be specialists in the Belarusian government who can calculate how much Belarus has provided services and preferences to Russia.

              Well, what haven’t been counted yet? At one time I remember Lukashenka kept shouting about covering Russia by means of Belarusian air defense from the west, then unexpectedly there was a "plush landing", then Lukashenko started talking about covering Russia with Belarusian customs, but then there were sanctions and counter-sanctions against Russia and smuggling began to flow, and even with Belarusian certificates. By the way, Lukasheko recently said that all the wars waged by Russia were alien to Belarus, spitting on the millions of Belarusians who died in the Second World War. It remains to follow the example of the Balts and other rubbish and calculate the damage from the Soviet era.
              After that, Abkhazia and South Ossetia did not flourish, not all Russian companies want to work in the Crimea, and Donbass (in the sense of New Russia) has just merged Russia.

              Abkhazia and South Ossetia did not flourish, but this is their business, let them work better, everything is in their hands, Russia helps. Donbass Russia merged ???, from that moment in more detail, how did it merge, where did it merge? Donbass stands and does not merge. And about the airbase, I'll tell you so. After Lukashenko promised Putin an airbase in Moscow and Putin publicly gave instructions to Shoigu on cameras, and Lukashenko, who arrived in Minsk, made surprised eyes and said that he knew nothing about the airbase, then such a "politician" like Lukashenko would never again be in another country they would not be allowed on the threshold, but in Russia they do. If you don't want an airbase, say so, here she is a mean soul.
      3. Campanella
        Campanella April 3 2020 11: 29 New
        +5
        Because he did not lie under the West!
        Sovereignty in the modern world of the capitalist miasm is expensive!
        Ukraine lay down to the west, so what? Blooms? Not so simple in this world.
      4. EvilLion
        EvilLion April 3 2020 12: 33 New
        -6
        He already lives worse than Russian. As for the Pole, there is no special army, no science, no space, no Caucasus and nasty climate in most of the territory, there were investments from the EU, Poland succeeded much better in this regard than the former. socialist, however, in terms of living standards, when compared with Russia, it will be somewhere plus or minus. Somewhere in Poland is better, somewhere in Russia. As for the Czech Republic, I will not say, unlike Poland, they developed quite well under the Austrians, but I would not have built any illusions. In addition, small well-fed countries are only such until the next time around them begins the dismantling of large players. So for Russia, or even Germany, in which case the chances of maintaining the standard of living of the population are much higher than for the Czech Republic.
        1. Kronos
          Kronos April 3 2020 14: 49 New
          +4
          Another adherent of Russian capitalism
  • Tzar
    Tzar April 3 2020 10: 08 New
    +1
    Well, how many times can you dig up potatoes? And shake your melons, clapping each watermelon like a baby in the ass? And even more so it’s time to reconsider the “strategy” of political behavior, when in the cowsheds of the president they even take record-breaking chicks for “their own”. Meanwhile, spice is added by the loss-making of MAZ and the actual stop of the BelAZ conveyor.

    Well said, neither diminish nor add.
    Old Man every day is happier to live, already about to buy oil for $ 4 and without premiums, or else it will be ...
  • dgonni
    dgonni April 3 2020 10: 16 New
    +2
    Well, someone against the background of the great helmsman father is still across the throat. For it did not close in the bunker for the period of the epidemic and crisis in the economy!
  • TAMBU
    TAMBU April 3 2020 11: 16 New
    +7
    I personally compared only the education system. in Belarus, she prepares the guys a bit stronger ... the difference will manifest itself through the generation for sure.
  • Campanella
    Campanella April 3 2020 11: 24 New
    +6
    The east wind carries a blizzard.
    What for? After all, the dad is obviously the best president of the entire post-Soviet soup set.
    "Young and active Putin" turned out to be an old, temporary guarantor of power, the guarantor of the grabber of the Yeltsin draft, and of his friends.
    And dad is a real integral politician, dragging Belarus forward, surrounded by an evil tolerant world. Ukraine is already selling the latter, Russia has become a deeply resource-based "advanced" power. And Belarus has managed to preserve its potential without having natural resources.
    Bravo Lukashenko, you are the best!
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta April 3 2020 21: 15 New
      11
      Quote: Campanella
      The east wind carries a blizzard.
      What for? After all, the dad is obviously the best president of the entire post-Soviet soup set.
      "Young and active Putin" turned out to be an old, temporary guarantor of power, the guarantor of the grabber of the Yeltsin draft, and of his friends.
      And dad is a real integral politician, dragging Belarus forward, surrounded by an evil tolerant world. Ukraine is already selling the latter, Russia has become a deeply resource-based "advanced" power. And Belarus has managed to preserve its potential without having natural resources.
      Bravo Lukashenko, you are the best!

      I subscribe to every word !!! good drinks
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 3 2020 11: 28 New
    +5
    Ah, daddy srach continues ....
    now he has lost his face ...
    According to the experience of Ukraine, it will lose lard, meat, vodka, sugar, beets, machinery, land ....

    And what millions and preferences he had for oil, gas, food, supplies weapons details to many countries, etc. - somehow silent
  • Luty
    Luty April 3 2020 11: 31 New
    14
    The author of the article does not know how everything really is in Belarus. In Gomel, when one guy with a coronovirus was identified, within a few hours they collected all 91 who contacted him and quarantined them in an organized manner and not at home. They collected them regardless of the time of day .
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  • EvilLion
    EvilLion April 3 2020 12: 42 New
    -13
    In general, I remember how even really respected people of communist views admired the old man, how did he not sell everything, one such. Where do we go to him. But here came the 2014th year and dill popped in the spring that they did not have time to mow. And somehow suddenly for them it turned out that dad fertilizes dill in every possible way. "Lukashenka has been behaving abominably lately."

    No, if the only criterion is the preservation of collective farms and factories, and not a real increase in prosperity, then, of course, the Old Man is fine. Why privatize the plant when you can privatize the whole state. It’s just that welfare growth requires slightly different actions than subsidizing enterprises that have become unprofitable, for example, it is necessary to modernize them, search for markets, fire redundant people and then add them somewhere, or maybe even shut down and do something with the population.

    While all the painful processes were going on in Russia, it was possible to rub people that we did not like in Russia, which also took on all the debts. But now the Russian economy is more efficient, and people who are not fit into the new realities are either retired or at the cemetery.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos April 3 2020 14: 50 New
      +7
      So he did not fit the slogan of the Russian bourgeois? At the cemetery !
  • Radikal
    Radikal April 3 2020 13: 06 New
    +3
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: novel xnumx
    good taste! Hello!

    Well this is my hobby laughing
    Hi hi

    It's time for you to become the hero of the movie - "Peeping Tom ... 3". Good luck! wassat
    1. Uncle Izya
      Uncle Izya April 3 2020 18: 31 New
      0
      Such a normal target!
  • Radikal
    Radikal April 3 2020 13: 07 New
    +6
    Quote: Luty
    The author of the article does not know how everything really is in Belarus. In Gomel, when one guy with a coronovirus was identified, within a few hours they collected all 91 who contacted him and quarantined them in an organized manner and not at home. They collected them regardless of the time of day .

    The author knows everything, he just has an order, the money has been paid, it is necessary to comply. hi bully
  • Radikal
    Radikal April 3 2020 13: 10 New
    +2
    Quote: Campanella
    The east wind carries a blizzard.
    What for? After all, the dad is obviously the best president of the entire post-Soviet soup set.
    "Young and active Putin" turned out to be an old, temporary guarantor of power, the guarantor of the grabber of the Yeltsin draft, and of his friends.
    And dad is a real integral politician, dragging Belarus forward, surrounded by an evil tolerant world. Ukraine is already selling the latter, Russia has become a deeply resource-based "advanced" power. And Belarus has managed to preserve its potential without having natural resources.
    Bravo Lukashenko, you are the best!

    yes yes yes good Respect! hi
  • divanka2021
    divanka2021 April 3 2020 13: 32 New
    0
    all went to rub comments, typical order
  • Kushka
    Kushka April 3 2020 13: 42 New
    +3
    Author - Lukashenko President of the country! Do you know such a lot?
    (tips: there are about 200 countries in the world, 7,8 billion people in the world,
    4 billion men).
    Ancient wisdom "No stones are thrown into a tree that does not bear fruit"
  • Operator
    Operator April 3 2020 13: 50 New
    -6
    Belarus has become a hotbed of coronavirus in Europe due to the rejection of any quarantine - all catering establishments, cinemas operate in the country, mass events are held, etc.

    Rygorych said that Belarusians “not only need to wash their hands with vodka, but, probably, 40-50 grams per day in terms of pure alcohol to poison this virus ... two or three times a week to go to the sauna for prevention ... sports, especially ice, refrigerator this one is the real antiviral medicine "



    For coronavirus, low environmental temperatures are ideal for distribution.
  • My three penny
    My three penny April 3 2020 13: 51 New
    -9
    I look, so many supporters of the Old Man gathered.
  • Galleon
    Galleon April 3 2020 14: 09 New
    +6
    Do I have an advertisement of good Belarusian joiner's machines after the article? smile Like a kind of mockery of the article. After all, if through tricks and subsidies (in quotes or without quotes) the neighbors were able to preserve factories, production, their agriculture, then how much it hurts the eyes of those who "optimized" in their country with your resources and industry, and medicine, and education, and the population.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos April 3 2020 14: 52 New
      +3
      Yes, I just went order to otmazyvat Putin who is the only one on a par with Ukraine did not help ordinary people during quarantine and all for large business and banks
  • bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 April 3 2020 14: 58 New
    0
    Finally, Lukashenka has got to "for nuts"!
  • Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya April 3 2020 15: 40 New
    -1
    Luke is still that goose in trampled family pants, but why should Russia not help the United States in a poor country, will not say thank you, but will count it as weakness?
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 3 2020 19: 57 New
    -1
    Old Man has already made history. The truth is what?
  • Cop
    Cop April 3 2020 20: 15 New
    0
    It was impossible to call his purely political tactics subtle and elegant, but it was effective ...
    And you yourself, what do you prefer, efficiency or elegance?
    Therefore, Lukashenko, cleverly manipulating illusions within the CIS and Russia's imperial nostalgia for the Union and the fraternity, maintained order and an adequate standard of living in his country to periodically point a finger toward a neighbor mired in the war for example to his citizens.
    Is it really bad? He, unlike ours, has preserved his people.
    But the sympathy of the people, obviously, fell on Lukashenko,
    He defended his people, but did not sell, that's why they fell .....
    Entire volumes of ridiculous pearls were easily forgiven:
    For comparison, you would have voiced our pearls, well, from "wet ...." to "... pigs ...." ...
    How can you not forgive, when you look towards the "Tsar" Boris involuntarily begin to be baptized
    And now, looking at our baptism, you are not drawn to?
    And it is no secret that many promised him the prospect of trying on the crown of the Mother See himself.
    Should this happen, I think we would live better now.
    Yes, and all the same nostalgia helped pump up the country with cheap resources.
    That is what it means to be a patriot of your homeland.
    ... Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, who showed his teeth in the Caucasus,
    Judging by the statements of his "personal infantryman" it becomes immediately evident who has molars and who has .... milk.
    .... managed to get into a combat plane ....
    And what about the submarines?
    And what is all this to cover?
    Well, how? Four dollars per barrel of URALS oil ..... laughing
    But nostalgia for Russia worked, raw materials and purchases of Belarusian products were on, so there was nothing to wipe away tears about failed political leadership.
    Once again I praise him for this. How, over and over, he bent our ...
    This political dementia will continue to gain momentum.
    Come on. Lukashenko spoke calmly and busily with the people and without a mask. And ours, even the costume was used by an American (apparently does not trust the domestic manufacturer), and his mask was not easy ...
    .... this antediluvian figure hands in his hand the political trump cards of the nationalist opposition like the aforementioned BPF party.
    Would you like him to just kill them?
    1. Altona
      Altona April 3 2020 20: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: Cop
      Come on.

      ----------------------
      Bravo, Valya. I'm not a fan of Alexander G., but ours just infuriates me. And Belarus is not a foreign land to me.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta April 3 2020 21: 07 New
        +9
        Quote: Altona
        but ours just pisses me off. And Belarus is not a foreign land to me.

        I am with you. Comrade, Eugene, I fully agree. Very enraging. yes
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  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish April 3 2020 21: 53 New
    10
    Another bucket of slops on duty in Belarus. It is strange that there are fewer howls, that the Chinese are "friends and brothers" to us. YES, such pictures are already in the distant past, thanks to the efforts of our friends, cosmopolitan oligarchs.

    Earlier they gave the Order of Friendship of Peoples:

    Well, now we need to give other orders. Like "divide and conquer":
    1. datura23
      datura23 April 4 2020 21: 43 New
      0
      late, everything is lost
  • KJIETyc
    KJIETyc April 4 2020 03: 52 New
    +6
    Quote: EvilLion
    Well, if tractors began to be destroyed several times less, then they need to be produced less. Although you are arguing from a position of stagnation, which was already scoffed at in the USSR, that industry works for itself, and the plant is needed to give its employees an apartment. But on the shelves in the shops, not a damn thing, although the whole country goes to work. Actually, all supposedly collapsed factories in Russia are divided into 3 types:
    1) Became superfluous, for example, due to the reduction of the army, or reorganization into more efficient forms of management, in particular in agriculture.
    2) Producing a non-competitive product, instead of which everyone began to buy better imports.
    3) Producing kerosene lamps and other chapel.

    in the Russian Federation there are 3 tractors per 1000 ha, in the Republic of Belarus 9, in Germany in the region of 60. Write istcho. "higher quality imports"
  • wooja
    wooja April 4 2020 04: 44 New
    +1
    With all the shortcomings of the Old Man, he is right in many ways ... but unable to prove his case ... because he is weak and timid. Unfortunately, for many reasons, the Old Man is not wealthy, but the worst for him, he missed his chance-- the author is right.
  • NERV
    NERV April 4 2020 09: 57 New
    -2
    When? When will Russia stop shit bast shoes?
  • Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 April 4 2020 10: 58 New
    0
    As Vysotsky sang: "How long do you hang with a string, but you will wind up in a noose"
  • polinet
    polinet April 4 2020 12: 43 New
    0
    Quote: dgonni
    Well, someone against the background of the great helmsman father is still across the throat. For it did not close in the bunker for the period of the epidemic and crisis in the economy!

    Everything is much simpler - he has elections in 2 months, and to quarantine the country - there is no money, from the word at all. To reign oh, how you liked it - and in everything he "understands" wherever you spit. Straight up an international strategist, as you listen to local news.
  • polinet
    polinet April 4 2020 12: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: My three pennies
    I look, so many supporters of the Old Man gathered.

    yeah, by the way, the Russians mostly praise under the influence of noodles, which he has been hanging for 25 years. Local people have not listened to him for a long time, even grannies who loved for cakes and who had already begun to disown them for a long time.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek April 6 2020 14: 00 New
      0
      yeah, by the way, the Russians mostly praise, under the influence of noodles, which he has been hanging for 25 years.

      Here me personally you just spat in the soul! crying
  • vavilon
    vavilon April 4 2020 14: 13 New
    +1
    Lukashenko loves and worries what will happen from Belarus after him
    I think a hundred if in Russia the rules of the "Old Man" would certainly not exist such as Chubais and others like him
  • lot
    lot April 4 2020 16: 59 New
    0
    in general, the hype in rb was yesterday about the death of my father.
    135 kg there and everything is there. [Media = https: //news.tut.by/society/679135.html] he was over 70.
    Below is my answer to the officials, who I am trying to convey, as well as a certificate of the father whom I buried today.
    "Dear sirs, high-ranking officials, I hope Musk will give you not only Tesla, but also a carriage; personally to the governor, I will address the patron's phrase" no heavy "dated April 2, worthy of becoming a meme.
    In short, who was my father Vladimir Sergeyevich:
    He was born on 04.02.1950/70/70 in the Miorsky district of Vitebsk region, he was “over XNUMX”, his parents were a front-line soldier with a bullet wound in his chest, he lived “over XNUMX” and my grandmother, also with the status of a participant in the hostilities, lived longer.
    Father, having studied after school at ChVVMU, served in the Northern Fleet, was the commander of a ship with nuclear weapons on board. In the 90s, for well-known reasons, he was demobilized in the then RB, in the Vitebsk region, where he worked until his retirement. In retirement, like most pensioners, he was gardening in the country, played chess well at the CCM level, raised grandchildren, loved cars, regularly went to the pool and was a sociable person.
    Until the end of his days, he received congratulations and thanks from all the countries of the former USSR from hundreds of sailors, midshipmen, officers serving under his command, and their parents (!)
    Condolences are accepted via skype sidorov_50; do not be upset if the subscriber is offline. "

    father served in Severomorsk, then Gremikha, military unit 36166, floating base PM 44, Sidorov Vladimir Sergeevich
    1. lot
      lot April 4 2020 17: 16 New
      0
      https://news.tut.by/society/678978.html - "тяжёлых нет" - фраза Лукашенко на 2 апреля, когда умер отец, будучи на тот день в коме 5й день.

      Sherstnev (Governor of the Vitebsk region. - Approx. TUT.BY) reported to me yesterday, the last case he had. I ask, why did you die this one? And he says: “Alexander Grigoryevich, how can you live with 135 kg in weight?”
      Read more: https://news.tut.by/society/679135.html
      shorter cynicism and dullness rolls over, just like with macaroni.
  • ermak124.0
    ermak124.0 April 4 2020 18: 34 New
    +1
    Quote: Antique
    It seems to me that Lukashenko is always extremely honest with his citizens.

    It’s ridiculous. Bravo!
  • pro100y.belarus
    pro100y.belarus April 4 2020 19: 04 New
    +1
    Everything is just beginning ... Strength tests ahead.
    So let's see - who can handle it, and who - "I'm tired, I'm leaving."
  • datura23
    datura23 April 4 2020 21: 40 New
    +1
    his time is over - you need someone smarter
    1. leoni53
      leoni53 April 7 2020 12: 02 New
      0
      Offer a real smart, or will you go yourself?
      1. datura23
        datura23 April 9 2020 05: 40 New
        0
        you pickle it too, like Lenin, for example, maybe you should think about the future with your head? Nobody diminishes his merits, but he fools before his eyes - age
  • leoni53
    leoni53 April 7 2020 12: 02 New
    0
    Love Troll Lukashenko