Making fun of the Russian Armed Forces stuck in Syrian mud, they reminded of a similar case with the US MRAP

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Making fun of the Russian Armed Forces stuck in Syrian mud, they reminded of a similar case with the US MRAP

The Western press, as well as resources controlled by the Kurdish military-political forces of northern Syria, relish the episode with the next blocking by the American contingent of the road to patrol the Russian military police.

Oshkosh armored vehicles of the US troops blocked the asphalt road in the north of the SAR, as previously reported by the Military Review. As a result, the Russian military decided to bypass the “traffic jam” on the ground. But, as it turned out, the soil was too wet and soft in this place, and the Russian Tiger armored vehicles could not continue moving.



From the stuff on Defense Blog:

A Russian military convoy tried to get around an American checkpoint and was stuck in the mud on the field. The Russian Tigers and BTR-82A tried to get around the checkpoint, but got stuck in the mud, and they had to be pulled out with the help of Typhoon-K.

On the pages of the social networks of Kurdish users of the north of Syria, malicious comments and ridicule about the "inability" of Russian armored vehicles to go off-road appeared on this occasion. Traditionally, bloggers in Ukraine also picked up an incomprehensible “delight”. At the same time, one and the other were reminded that a relatively recent case occurred with American armored vehicles. MRAPs also got stuck in Syrian mud and were forced to ask for help to get on the road - using a rigid coupling.



By the way, the material of the mentioned Defense Blog refers to the "American checkpoint." But this does not indicate the international agreement by which the United States equips the checkpoint in Syria, as well as from when the road blocked by armored vehicles became known as the checkpoint.

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    1. +29
      April 2 2020 08: 00
      Eh, well, they sat in the mud, well, it happens. In general, it is necessary to put the Urals in the columns instead of the Tigers, he will "butt" if he can and does not fall into the mud
      1. -9
        April 2 2020 08: 00
        "This is not dirt, this is a tan" (c)
        1. +5
          April 2 2020 08: 05
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          "It's not dirt, it's a tan"
          And most importantly, and from where in Syria "Russian off-road"?
          1. +5
            April 2 2020 08: 08
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: Ilya-spb
            "It's not dirt, it's a tan"
            And most importantly, and from where in Syria "Russian off-road"?

            That's it. Yours listen to BV in this way is a continuous desert, and local equipment is designed to overcome hard soils.
            1. MMX
              +2
              April 2 2020 17: 39
              Quote: professor
              Quote: svp67
              Quote: Ilya-spb
              "It's not dirt, it's a tan"
              And most importantly, and from where in Syria "Russian off-road"?

              That's it. Yours listen to BV in this way is a continuous desert, and local equipment is designed to overcome hard soils.


              And there is. There are exceptions, no more.
            2. +2
              April 2 2020 18: 34
              Quote: professor
              That's it. Your listen so on bv continuous desert

              That's exactly what I thought.
          2. +15
            April 2 2020 08: 35
            Quote: svp67
            And most importantly, and from where in Syria "Russian off-road"?

            he was brought there together with the group so that the troops would not relax and would not lose their skill and vigilance. On la ger, com on la ger.
            1. 0
              April 2 2020 08: 40
              Quote: Malyuta
              On la ger, com on la ger

              Well not "Looking woman!" lol
              1. +15
                April 2 2020 09: 53
                Quote: Insurgent
                Well not "Cherchez la femme!"

                As in the recent past, and now, in the Moscow Region there are a lot of worthy familas with Genral stripes on skirts and medallions on the facades, and you don’t need to look for them especially. Yes
            2. +1
              April 2 2020 08: 48
              Quote: Malyuta
              so that the troops do not relax

              And didn’t complain laughing
              1. The comment was deleted.
              2. +10
                April 2 2020 09: 22
                Quote: Lipchanin
                And didn’t complain

                1. +13
                  April 2 2020 09: 55
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  And didn’t complain


                  But there was such a Soviet unique in all-wheel drive! THING!!!
                  1. +3
                    April 2 2020 09: 59
                    Quote: Malyuta
                    But there was such a Soviet unique in all-wheel drive! THING!!!

                    And they gave way laughing
                    And most importantly, on "autopilot" he could take a drunk "pilot" home laughing
                2. +12
                  April 2 2020 10: 45
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  And didn’t complain

                  You forgot to ask a question under this photo.
                  "In what order should these vehicles cross the intersection?"
                  1. +3
                    April 2 2020 10: 47
                    Quote: svp67
                    You forgot to ask a question under this photo.
                    "In what order should these vehicles cross the intersection?"

                    So it’s clear.
                    Who has less horsepower laughing
                    1. +3
                      April 2 2020 11: 54
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Who has less horsepower

                      Poor foal ... and then "hazing"
                      1. +2
                        April 2 2020 11: 57
                        Quote: svp67
                        Poor foal ... and then "hazing"

                        What bullying here, missed laughing
                  2. +2
                    April 2 2020 18: 59
                    Quote: svp67
                    "In what order should these vehicles cross the intersection?"

                    according to the rule of "interference from the right" ... laughing
      2. +2
        April 2 2020 08: 05
        and so the Boomerangs will sit there
        1. +1
          April 2 2020 09: 13
          Quote: prodi
          and so the Boomerangs will sit there

          These definitely won’t ...
          1. +2
            April 2 2020 10: 32
            why won't they? The Tiger from 5.6 to 7.6t - options, on two axes. And the Boomerang has from 25 to 34 tons for four. It’s not just going to sit, but you won’t find it by the ears
            1. +4
              April 2 2020 10: 59
              Quote: prodi
              It’s not just going to sit, but you won’t find it by the ears

              No, the four leaders, with the possibility of pressure changes, with a short base between them ... No, it will be better. Although we'll see. God bless them in the army to be faster
          2. +3
            April 2 2020 18: 37
            Quote: svp67
            These definitely won’t ...

            Are you sure that they will be passable BTR-82?
            By the way, it is not known whether the APC was stuck? Perhaps he is stupidly standing behind and waiting for the head Tiger to be pulled out
            1. +2
              April 2 2020 20: 13
              Quote: Gritsa
              Are you sure that they will be passable BTR-82?

              You understand that there is no confidence in anything, although I can say that the wheels on it are different, with a more developed pattern
              Quote: Gritsa
              By the way, it is not known whether the APC was stuck?

              Perhaps not. I remain with my opinion that the "Tigers" were not stuck because of the mud, but because they followed the "Typhoon" and sat in its rut
        2. 0
          April 3 2020 15: 42
          They will not, because they are not ... lol
      3. +13
        April 2 2020 08: 05
        Quote: svp67
        it is necessary to put the Urals instead of the Tigers in the columns, he will "butt" if he can and will not fall into the mud

        "Ural" must be armored, which, due to the increased mass, inevitably affects the value of the specific axle load, and, accordingly, a decrease in cross-country ability ...

        But to be the "king of the highway", such a "Ural" can easily. For this it is only necessary not to climb into the swamp ourselves, but to drive the Yankes there.
      4. +10
        April 2 2020 08: 32
        Quote: svp67
        In general, it is necessary to put the Urals instead of the Tigers in the columns, he will "butt" if he can and does not fall into the mud

        The armored vehicle "tigar" is from the netanalagafwmire series, which is why it is proving its status in the Syrian desert.
        Everyone said that in Russia it is impossible to call equipment "Tigers", and the police - the police - the people have very bad associations with these names.
        1. +2
          April 2 2020 09: 05
          Drive Panzervaflu from Undeurope
      5. +7
        April 2 2020 08: 43
        Quote: svp67
        Oh, well, they got into the mud, well, it happens.

        There are ... laughing
        But byada, SuperTigers were positioned as mega-off-road vehicles, here on the site they convinced me that their cross-country ability was at the level of the BTR-80. And the Crimean problems with the curbs "this is completely different" (c)

        And then such an ambush ....

        laughing laughing laughing

        recalled a similar case with MRAP USA

        But "Tiger" is not a MRAP.
        Moreover, paid journalists of Deripaska convinced us together that patency was more important than protection against mine explosions ...
        1. +3
          April 2 2020 08: 54
          Quote: Spade
          But "Tiger" is not a MRAP.

          So here the American Trouble is laid out to the peak. We must watch Facebook vidyuhu
          1. +5
            April 2 2020 09: 16
            Quote: Tusv
            So here the American Trouble is laid out to the peak.

            This is an even greater disgrace for the brainchild of "VPK"
            Indeed, in the Internet struggle with "Iveco LMV" / "Lynx" they were pushing on the cross-country ability.
            1. +2
              April 2 2020 09: 39
              Quote: Spade
              Indeed, in the Internet struggle with "Iveco LMV" / "Lynx" they were pushing on the cross-country ability.

              I do not remember literally, but one of the options Tiger vs Lynx is on Iveco ryuschki plastic fall off at the first bump. By the way, I do not think that the Lynx would not be stuck. It’s just that the Tiger was caught in vidyuha, and the Lynx somewhere on the side on an ideal highway chuckles at the domestic auto industry. In general, Typhoon steers in this video
              1. +1
                April 2 2020 19: 53
                Quote: Tusv
                By the way, I do not think that the Lynx would not be stuck.

                The same would be stuck. But she is an honest "SUV" with protection from explosions.
        2. +1
          April 2 2020 09: 15
          Quote: Spade
          And then such an ambush ....

          Mud...
        3. +3
          April 2 2020 09: 50
          Quote: Spade
          But byad, superTigers were positioned

          The Tiger has a higher cross, it is a fact for whom I recall a short memory.
          1. +5
            April 2 2020 10: 14
            Quote: figvam
            The Tiger has a higher cross, this is a fact

            Here I am about laughing laughing laughing
            And where did this "passability" end up in a real combat situation? Let me think .... she turned out to be complete bullshit?

            So at the exit we have a not very pleasant situation - in return for the refusal to defend against mines, the army did not receive the promised super-passability. Despite the beautiful videos.



            Quote: figvam
            who recall a short memory.

            My memory is just great.
            And this video I will remember for a long time
            1. +6
              April 2 2020 11: 09
              Quote: Spade
              Let’s think .... it turned out to be complete bullshit?

              Well, this is your subjective opinion, nothing more. You do not know how far our column traveled on the ground, and this is hundreds of meters at least, Western counterparts would have got bogged down in the first meters. You do not know how many successful detours our patrols performed before and after that, but you draw a conclusion from one video. Therefore, your "fsёpopalo" have nothing to do with reality.
              1. -7
                April 2 2020 19: 55
                Quote: figvam
                Well, this is your subjective opinion, no more.

                And the subjective opinion of many people who watched the video with the stuck "Tiger"

                Quote: figvam
                You do not know how many successful detours our patrols completed before and after, but you make a conclusion on one clip.

                Who cares? Enough to do it once.
            2. +1
              April 2 2020 19: 02
              Quote: Spade
              And where did this "passability" end up in a real combat situation? Let me think .... she turned out to be complete bullshit?

              proverb about laying between the steering wheel and the seat do you know?
              1. 0
                April 2 2020 19: 56
                Quote: PSih2097
                proverb about laying between the steering wheel and the seat do you know?

                Like "you can blame everything on the gasket"?
                1. +1
                  April 2 2020 20: 03
                  Quote: Spade

                  Like "you can blame everything on the gasket"?

                  you can bury on the UAZ on the roof, and calmly drive on the same Volga ...
        4. +2
          April 2 2020 16: 05
          The gasket must be changed between the steering wheel and the seat.
        5. +3
          April 2 2020 16: 19
          Quote: Spade
          But byala, superTigers were positioned as mega-terrain vehicles, here on the site they convinced me that they had cross-country ability at the level of BTR-80.

          So this situation just confirmed that the passability of the "Tiger" at the level of the BTR-80 - both got stuck.
          On the right is the Tiger, on the left is the BTR-82A.

          And judging by the video "Tiger" drove further than the APC.
          By the way, it is interesting - judging by the direction of the stuck vehicles, they were driving from left to right and got stuck behind the American checkpoint. But how then did the Typhoon pulling them out pass behind this checkpoint?
          1. +2
            April 2 2020 17: 02
            Quote: Alexey RA
            But how then did the Typhoon pulling them out go past this checkpoint?

            That is why it passed because the FIRST. If the "Tigers" had gone first, they might have crawled out, but the "Typhoon" would definitely not have pulled out
            1. +3
              April 2 2020 17: 55
              Quote: svp67
              That is why it passed because the FIRST. If the "Tigers" had gone first, they might have crawled out, but the "Typhoon" would definitely not have pulled out

              That is, the "Tiger" was driving along the track from the "Typhoon" in a field flooded with water? Well, then he has excellent cross-country ability, since he drove so much on it. smile
          2. +1
            April 2 2020 18: 42
            Quote: Alexey RA
            By the way, it is interesting - judging by the direction of the stuck vehicles, they were driving from left to right and got stuck behind the American checkpoint. But how then did the Typhoon pulling them out pass behind this checkpoint?

            There is no way to understand "where is the ass, where is in front"
            1. +1
              April 2 2020 20: 14
              Quote: Gritsa
              There is no way to understand "where is the ass, where is in front"

              Well, you don’t think that they were trying to turn around there
      6. KCA
        +5
        April 2 2020 08: 43
        Well, not "Urals", "Typhoon-U", "Typhoon-K", MRAP just weigh a little more, but if you take the BTR-80, it will push 5 MRAPs out of any city with his nose, or bury my light BTR-60PB (R-145) brakes, on the descent, the company commander himself was driving, he cut off the concrete pile like a knife, only scratched the paint on the ladybug, I was sitting on the armor, I would not have seen - even would not notice
        1. +4
          April 2 2020 09: 16
          Quote: KCA
          Well, not "Urals", "Typhoon-U", "Typhoon-K",

          The last "Tigers" just pulls out of the mud, and the Urals are the same different ... The site has a whole cycle of articles about them.
          And if our Defense Ministry wishes, Miass is ready to supply such "Urals" to the troops
          1. KCA
            +1
            April 2 2020 09: 41
            So Typhoon-U is Miass, and the wagon still cannot be compared with the BTR60-70-80-82, no matter how many flags you draw, knock down with such a "Tiger" pile, straight away thousands of 150-200 repairs and painting. PySy, it’s me to the fact that on the ladybug only I examined the damage, my machine, the company commander and the deputy chief was absolutely exactly what would happen to her? I did not drive into the wall
      7. +1
        April 2 2020 12: 10
        Quote: svp67
        Eh, well, they got into the mud,

        We sat in a puddle. Because not proud.
        1. +1
          April 2 2020 19: 06
          Quote: iouris
          We sat in a puddle. Because not proud.

          because the carriers were unsuitable ... I rode a tiger at the time, the car is fire, because the gasket can put KRAZ and the Urals into a belly ...
      8. 0
        April 3 2020 08: 55
        Here, in my opinion, the main question is: "Guys, what are you doing here?" - so any gop-stop on the road can be qualified as a checkpoint.
    2. +16
      April 2 2020 08: 04
      Mutually neighing and good. But personally, I still have questions about the patency of our armored vehicles (and maybe on the level of training of mechanical drivers). Dirt, but not a swamp on the Syrian side of the road.
      1. 0
        April 2 2020 08: 06
        Maybe there were these ... Quicksand!

        And the preparation? Need, of course. Although experienced drivers get stuck. I saw it myself.
        1. +1
          April 2 2020 08: 15
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          I saw it myself.

          I myself sat on the "loaf" on the axles wink But even that was not Syrian mud, but the most natural Volga floodplain during the spill and with rain as a bucket ..
        2. +2
          April 2 2020 18: 45
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          And the preparation? Need, of course. Although experienced drivers get stuck. I saw it myself.

          In any case, it was possible to foresee such a development of events (not the first time this). Therefore, learn from the Syrian mud on the sidelines to blow gas. And to understand that if it does not work out, then why try and substitute for grins.
      2. +5
        April 2 2020 08: 50
        Dirt, but not a swamp on the Syrian side of the road.

        In Tajikistan, the same loess dust is caked. While dry as a brick, after rain it looks like thick sour cream.
        1. 0
          April 2 2020 19: 09
          Quote: grandfather_Kostya
          In Tajikistan, the same loess dust is caked. While dry as a brick, after rain it looks like thick sour cream.

          the black soil in Ukraine is almost the same, only it can be buried so that they will not be pulled out with a tractor, but only with a bulldozer ...
          1. 0
            April 2 2020 19: 22
            I took Tajikistan as an example as a country at almost the same latitude and with a similar climate.
      3. +3
        April 2 2020 09: 01
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        Dirt, but not a swamp on the Syrian side of the road.

        Look, there is just water on the sides. In the spring, after the "season" of rains, there are such "passable" chernozems, Mama do not worry. There is nothing to do on the tank. And the fact that there is no desert can be seen on the green grass.
      4. +1
        April 2 2020 12: 59
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        but there was no swamp on the Syrian side of the road.

        Worse. Judging by the video there is spring and a sown field. You need to understand that a tank can sit on its belly in a saturated arable land. hi
    3. +13
      April 2 2020 08: 05
      There will always be SUCH dirt in which you get stuck. wassat But the American checkpoint in Syria, what is it?
      Is it really necessary to attach tanks to the patrol next time? To just clear the passage where necessary. am
      1. +11
        April 2 2020 08: 36
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Is it really necessary to attach tanks to the patrol next time? To just clear the passage where necessary.

        Well, tanks (in the sense of MBT ...) ... will be, perhaps, too "daring" ... (as in the agreements? what ), but BREM, or IMR-3M ... may well fit in!
      2. +3
        April 2 2020 08: 47
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Is it really necessary to attach tanks to the patrol next time?

        With a warning shot in the mash? Penalty for punishment without severance pay am And present the invoice (invoice in our account) for calling special equipment and blame the Yankees for refusing to render assistance
      3. +3
        April 3 2020 12: 56
        There will always be SUCH dirt in which you get stuck.

        The steeper the jeep, the farther to go behind the tractor.
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    5. 0
      April 2 2020 08: 07
      What kind of dirt is in Syria that the BTR-82A 8 × 8 is stuck?
      1. +5
        April 2 2020 08: 13
        But what the hell .. I saw how an armored personnel carrier could not climb a small hill in the morning in the wet from dew grass .. And indeed, caterpillars can not always help. Need a little
        conduct engineering intelligence, at least by eye ..
        1. +7
          April 2 2020 08: 29
          Most likely, the usashniks put a checkpoint in this place as a specialist.
          1. +3
            April 2 2020 08: 52
            Or maybe a specialist flooded the field from two sides, suggesting such an option ...
            1. -1
              April 2 2020 08: 54
              And it could be.
          2. +1
            April 2 2020 18: 48
            Quote: Boris Epstein
            Most likely, the usashniks put a checkpoint in this month as a specialist.

            To consider them de-bills would also be reckless.
    6. +2
      April 2 2020 08: 08
      Well, they will come next time, if not on a tank, then on an engineering vehicle at a tank base, so as not to say that they are "frightening with tanks" and will simply push any obstacle off the road, even if it is from some "strikers".
    7. +9
      April 2 2020 08: 09
      The roads

      ,,, and what roads are in the country where the fighting is taking place.
      ,,, and in my city sad
    8. -2
      April 2 2020 08: 11
      Nothing, let them bark, but our designers will take note.
      1. +2
        April 2 2020 08: 16
        Rather, the operators will become more careful)
      2. -3
        April 2 2020 08: 17
        Quote: Ros 56
        Nothing, let them bark, but our designers will take note.

        Или: our designers take a note? laughing
    9. +12
      April 2 2020 08: 20
      The day before yesterday there was a discussion on the topic of wheeled armored vehicles. Some hoped that the whole world would switch to a wheeled vehicle, while we were all in the old fashioned way - we ride on "caterpillars". And the topic was - Israeli self-propelled guns are rearranged on a wheeled platform.
      The video, of course, is "shameful". Now he will go for a walk on the Internet. The tread was washed out like a Zhiguli on summer tires.
      Something we often allow the Americans to block our patrol. No.
      1. 0
        April 2 2020 08: 31
        Well, so in developed areas, wheeled vehicles are more efficient. Has more tactical uses. Can make a hit run against a heavy brigade and break it up to zero with time. And as recent wars (from the 80s to today) show - flying detachments of toyota infantry, toyota artillery, and Toyota ATGM are capable of catching and breaking mechanized convoys, attacking forces with dowry tanks that have entrenched themselves in the village and defeating them.
        1. +3
          April 2 2020 08: 44
          donavi49 ...Well, so in developed areas, wheeled vehicles are more efficient. Has more tactical uses.

          I totally agree. To each sandpiper, its own swamp. For our country - the preference for caterpillars or 6-8 horsemen.
          For Europe and countries with hard soils - wheels.
          In this episode - an illiterate decision of the "senior", going to the side of the road with wet clay soil. It is immediately evident - not a fisherman, and not a hunter. hi
          1. 0
            April 2 2020 09: 13
            Quote: askort154
            In this episode - an illiterate decision of the "senior", going to the sidelines

            Well of course the eldest is to blame ....

            In fact, driving along the side of the road in order to bypass the fence or a possible mining site is quite a regular action.
            And the fact that the car, including that intended for the MTR, is getting stuck, is unacceptable in principle.

            And if it was an ambush?
            So you would have died there ...
          2. 0
            April 2 2020 19: 25
            Quote: askort154
            In this episode - an illiterate decision of the "senior", going to the side of the road with wet clay soil. It is immediately evident - not a fisherman, and not a hunter.

            here the problem is as in 41 - do not succumb to provocation. I would simulate negotiations with the base at the site of the elder and start irradiating the nearest US car with a guidance laser for the LAB-4 type CAB
            .
      2. +3
        April 2 2020 08: 44
        Quote: askort154
        The video, of course, is "shameful". Now he will go for a walk on the Internet.

        Yes, it does not matter that this is "shameful" on the Internet will show, we will assume that they are equal. Account 1x1.
        Quote: askort154
        Something we often allow the Americans to block our patrol.

        This is yes. Not order. Considering that we are there on a legal basis, but they, according to all international rules, are from the category of "ichtamnetu" and at the same time are trying to establish their own rules.
      3. +1
        April 2 2020 10: 56
        Quote: askort154
        Something we often let the Americans block our patrol

        This is the main thing. And the fact that ABSOLUTELY passable in any conditions wheeled and tracked military equipment does not exist should be clear.
    10. -2
      April 2 2020 08: 27
      On the car stuck in the mud .. so what? .. Well, the problem is ,,
      1. -2
        April 2 2020 08: 34
        This is not a problem, it is a shame for the whole world and for many years. In three years these shots will come up for any reason ..
        1. 0
          April 2 2020 08: 47
          Quote: Pereira
          In three years these shots will come up for any reason ..

          And they will be right.
          It was not necessary to use YouTube in the fight against competitors.
          Now get-sign. The same in the same place.

          It’s a pity, they already managed to suck out a lot of money from the RF Ministry of Defense .....
          1. -1
            April 2 2020 09: 33
            Remember how you mocked the Hammers falling during the landing?
            Exactly until the moment they fell. But even here there were clever men affirming - Just think, the matter of life.
            1. +2
              April 2 2020 09: 34
              Quote: Pereira
              Remember how you mocked the Hammers falling during the landing?

              And correctly mocked, no one has such a disgrace.
              1. -4
                April 2 2020 09: 35
                Have you watched a domestic video?
                1. +3
                  April 2 2020 10: 15
                  Quote: Pereira
                  Have you watched a domestic video?

                  With a few falling platforms? Never.
                  1. -1
                    April 2 2020 11: 01
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV3w_iTX8LI
                    It happened on September 20 last year. Especially for you I found a link with the Vesti logo.
                    After that, no one else mentions the falling Hammers.
                    1. +1
                      April 2 2020 20: 01
                      One-time randomness, two-coincidence, three-regularity
              2. -3
                April 2 2020 10: 56
                the Americans had a diversion. has nothing to do with the quality of technology
                1. +1
                  April 2 2020 19: 59
                  Quote: ender
                  the Americans had a diversion. has nothing to do with the quality of technology

                  eight))))))
                  Naturally. GRU agents and their local accomplices.
                  1. -2
                    April 2 2020 20: 06
                    well, you know better, of course

                    https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3016122
        2. +2
          April 3 2020 12: 59
          it is a shame for the whole world and for many years.

          For others, no; for you, yes.
          Remember how you mocked the Hammers falling during the landing?

          Still crying?
      2. 0
        April 2 2020 09: 22
        2 meters from the road ... there type impassable dirt?
    11. +9
      April 2 2020 08: 28
      It’s not so bad that they got stuck ... This happens both with a really experienced driver and with a gasket between the steering wheel and the seat and it equally successfully happens in the Urals and in the sighted bug.
      The question is, how much longer will this circus with patrolling continue? How much will we pretend that Americans have the right to be in Syria?
    12. +2
      April 2 2020 08: 32
      As I already wrote, it is necessary to take the IMR into patrol and to demolish all obstacles that impede the movement, all pin dosniks along with their Oshkoshs. So that under the legs / wheels / tracks they are not confused! am
      This is not their land, they are occupiers there, it is not for them to establish traffic rules !!!
      1. +2
        April 2 2020 18: 56
        Quote: K-50
        As I already wrote, it is necessary to take the IMR into patrol and to demolish all obstacles that impede the movement, all pin dosniks along with their Oshkoshs. So that under the legs / wheels / tracks they are not confused!

        You don't need so much pathos. How do you imagine that? Or are you sure that pin_dos will calmly contemplate this action? They also have weapons. And they, too, are not shy guys, no matter what they say about them. Or recall how the brave Wagnerians rushed to "liberate" the wells? The Americans were not particularly scared, but stupidly drove the gunship quickly, which, without fear, decided the controversial issue not in our favor.
    13. +1
      April 2 2020 08: 39
      Well damn missed the Russian off-road. It happens. I'm more interested in that person in a Kalash shirt with no identification marks in the ranks of the Americans. This is an urgent need for a meeting at the UN, as a clear complicity in terrorism.
    14. +1
      April 2 2020 08: 39
      This is just a confirmation that the United States does what it wants and does, and wherever it wants to do it! I have already said that "WE" came to SYRIA to the war ourselves, and since we have come it is necessary to fight, and not to arrange a truce with the zones. And we must fight in such a way that they are afraid to arrange provocations against us! Just try to swing a stone at an American soldier, and what if you throw it? They will put everyone, even whoever was standing next to! CONCLUSION: FUCKED and DISAMED before the whole WORLD. Well, Russia under the leadership of the Tsar, DO NOT get used to it !! The WORLD must be saved, and not a shame to think !!!
    15. -1
      April 2 2020 08: 40
      Making fun of the Russian Armed Forces stuck in Syrian mud, they reminded of a similar case with the US MRAP
      You shouldn't be so with them, you need to be softer: "Yes, we drowned in the mud and disappeared. Sleep well ...... BUT WE will come to you at night and take whatever we want, and comics too .... and answer." feel
    16. +2
      April 2 2020 08: 51
      Quote: Alex2048
      How much will we pretend that Americans have the right to be in Syria?

      And it’s not just to be, but to be illegally, and to drive in our ... legally and figuratively our legally located soldiers ...
    17. +3
      April 2 2020 08: 57
      Well stuck together with the BTR-80.
    18. +2
      April 2 2020 09: 02
      In the Western press, as well as on resources controlled by the Kurdish military-political forces of northern Syria
      As for the Western media, everything is clear - don’t feed with bread, let’s just spit in the direction of Russia. And the Kurds were obviously so encouraged by American help, despite the subsequent betrayal, that they were malicious against the Russians. You can answer their malice with ours - but how are you (Kurds) doing with the Turks? Is everyone still beating?
    19. +3
      April 2 2020 09: 07
      Whether we lead them, we send airplanes with medical assistance, and "they draw us all sorts of figwams" (c). Disgusting somehow. sad
    20. 0
      April 2 2020 09: 19
      Quote: svp67
      Eh, well, they sat in the mud, well, it happens. In general, it is necessary to put the Urals in the columns instead of the Tigers, he will "butt" if he can and does not fall into the mud

      Better to cross the "traffic jam" with a tank wassat
    21. +2
      April 2 2020 09: 19
      Well, if they got stuck in Syria 2 meters from the road, then what can we say about our dirt ... Not an offset.
    22. +3
      April 2 2020 09: 25
      The battles in the comments are ABOUT ANYTHING, the wonder of reasoning is especially impressive.
      You can plant ANY technique.
      Even the Knights (!) DT-30 oil and gas workers manage to heat up to the very roof, so that then two of the same Knights and three 'hundred and thirty' with the help of pulley blocks can hardly pull out.
      I am more than sure that with the proper 'skill' (or rather curvature), the vaunted Oshkoshi M-ATVs, L-ATVs will just as helplessly knead the buza next to the asphalt road.
      Epic landing on the coast of no less vaunted HUMWEE forgotten ???
      And it is in ordinary sand !! laughing
    23. +2
      April 2 2020 09: 35
      Quote: Malyuta
      On la ger, com on la ger.

      And I thought: a la ger, com a la ger.
      1. +11
        April 2 2020 09: 47
        Quote: PavelM
        And I thought: a la ger, com a la ger.

        In this case, an adapted version is used, the original does not "roll" here. wink
    24. 0
      April 2 2020 09: 37
      In the dirt and on the curb, the Tigers are better not to climb. soldier
    25. +1
      April 2 2020 09: 50
      Why are there no registrars on the armor plates? Many issues would be resolved. I didn’t understand the heavy ones, they seemed to crawl through, but they are clean .. Or they arrived on the other side. It's unclear. Judging by the tracks, the first one immediately got out onto the road, right after the Americans, but where did they get? For the training of these drivers it is necessary in the taiga, and so that 50-200 kilometers to housing, that if you plant a car then hang yourself. You start to smell the road and off-road booty. Roadsides and mines may be buried.
    26. 0
      April 2 2020 10: 54
      you can plant anything. At least I’m Ural, at least Kraz, at least a shishig. Given the presence of the green grass of the ants, you can wang the passage of the recent rain. And yet this season they are still in Syria and go. And since the carriers used to be firm around, they were more fun and tumbled onto the bridges, because no one even thought to take off the pressure in the tires.
      So these frames do not say anything about the patency of the equipment. And they talk about Russian maybe.
      1. +1
        April 2 2020 11: 37
        In any case, you need to check the path of the path, you go and check. And about the pressure in the tires, on the sand it helps, and the snow and the swamps, well, as you say, the weight is quite large, well, and on inflated wheels you chop to solid. Ural on its simple wheels, more passable than on arched. shakes dirt on wheels, but there’s no sense.
        1. 0
          April 2 2020 11: 56
          So they cut through to the hard that already landed on bridges. And they would have let go of pressure and would have drove normally.
          Ride in due time on the Belarusian peat bogs I know. There, before the hard chop, 5-15 meters. So paging definitely steers.
    27. +2
      April 2 2020 11: 57
      That is, the video does not want to be watched carefully .. the main thing on the Tiger cross is to bark ..
      Look to whom they want to attach TyphoonK? To the Tiger, which I couldn’t leave on soft ground on an asphalt surface ... along a rut cut by Typhoon’s big wheels .. the rest just stand and wait for the exit to clear ..
    28. +1
      April 2 2020 12: 06
      Only aircraft do not skid.
    29. 0
      April 2 2020 13: 35
      In the order for patrolling were indicated the bastards on the route? No in Syria. If not, the order has not been fulfilled. Direction, speed, distance between cars, communication, interaction with the Turks, a description of the route was in the order, do not go to the grandmother. And yes, without knowing the ford, first they take off their boots. The experience of the Don steppes is a shitty road, but it is expensive. Nearby it seems excellent grass and you can slip through. On Prudboy, an army training ground near Volgograd, the same riders, in the same situation, planted a tank on the trunk in the ground - they waited a week for the land to dry after rains. Three tanks pulled out. Sorry did not take a picture. And here the carriers were from a place where the rains do not kill the earth in a slurry. Moved and drove CTP insurance, if there is a claim. Let the insurance company contact its location. wink
    30. 0
      April 2 2020 13: 46
      We need to make a mounted tractor unit ahead in the form of a troubling snow bucket and forward through an allegedly American checkpoint, let's see how much it is a checkpoint.
    31. 0
      April 2 2020 13: 57
      Bring a barrage vehicle to Syria and start up ahead of the convoy in such cases.
    32. 0
      April 2 2020 14: 52
      After watching the video, questions remain about the patency of domestic armored vehicles. Everything was clear with the Tiger (despite the laudatory statements of the Ministry of Defense and "experts" of all kinds of spills about its fantastic passability), but Typhoon-K pleasantly surprised
      1. +1
        April 3 2020 20: 41
        Well, the video would be carefully watched. It is clearly seen that the column was driving at least 50 in mud, it can be seen in the rut, in contrast to Amer oshkoshi. It is also clearly visible that they walked along the rut from the typhoon, and they pulled only the first car, which most likely had a tread, and the wheels couldn’t catch on hard ground, those who are fond of eating, are well aware of such a problem, or simply by a belly sat down.
    33. 0
      April 2 2020 15: 58
      Let them remember the landing of the American marines on the coast of Spain, which was really funny where.
    34. -1
      April 2 2020 17: 00
      So we ourselves laughed at the amers that they were stuck out of the blue .... And how ours got stuck like that ... It happens :-)))))) funny
    35. 0
      April 2 2020 19: 06
      Without knowing the ford, do not get into the water.
    36. 0
      April 2 2020 20: 49
      Making fun of stuck Americans Russians themselves are stuck in the mud.
      This heading is more suitable.
    37. +1
      April 2 2020 21: 34
      And the drivers did not try to reduce the pressure in the tires? They say it helps in overcoming loose soils and wetlands.
    38. 0
      April 3 2020 04: 21
      Please tell me why our patrols are blacking, is this such an American game right? And why the Russian Ministry of Defense will not transfer dozens of BATs to Syria to escort patrols, I think they are just designed to make passes in obstacles and in a triple ligament it will be ooo.
    39. +1
      April 3 2020 07: 49
      Funny fool that nose on its side. Well, let yourself laugh! Who pays attention to all sorts of bloggers and the yellow press? Yes, the one who is eager to bile-patriotic.
      The situation is working. It is necessary to draw the right conclusions.
      Firstly, what kind of armored car is it that gets stuck in the mud? Designers need to think about improvements. There are a lot of technologies - all kinds of winches. pressure-controlled tires, special wide tires. yes, in the end, at least let them carry boards to put on! Where is this Russian savvy then?
      And imagine, if the soldiers jumped out in a crowd, they would have pushed a typewriter and pushed out by a crowd. That would be a video! With a completely different mood.
      Secondly. It is necessary to think up something to do in such situations. So as not to aggravate and terminate such precedents. For example: do not go round, but block the road on your part. And call for reinforcements - down to tanks and aircraft. Will there be our helicopters barrage ours, what will the Americans do? Will they also send helicopters? So this is already a designation of the problem. The next time, so that there is no kneading, the Americans will not do this - when it will be more expensive.
      True, there is a very significant problem - what to do if the territory is, in fact, controlled by the Americans? Blocking the road there will not be quite simple, just in fact.
      You can attract the military press. Go to the blockers with a video camera and start asking them why they blocked the road and on what grounds they are in Syria. And then everything is on the Internet. It will be interesting.
      You can ride with some kind of medical car. Imagine the news if the Americans block a military medical vehicle? Humanitarian it will be directly not good.
      It is necessary to show some activity and ingenuity, that’s all, and not to spit saliva with rage or restrainedly silently endure everything ...
    40. +2
      April 3 2020 09: 56
      Kindergarten pants with straps. Well, we got stuck and pulled out a common picture in any army in the world. Today, one tomorrow, another. Some great professionals did it themselves and went to carry out the task, others called for technical assistance ... To arrange "battles" about this is stupid. Here's a video, Poland, asphalt and the US army. And these are "professionals"
    41. -1
      April 3 2020 12: 05
      Oshkosh armored vehicles of the US troops blocked the asphalt road in the north of the SAR, as previously reported by the Military Review. As a result, the Russian military decided to bypass the “traffic jam” on the ground. But, as it turned out, the soil was too wet and soft in this place, and the Russian Tiger armored vehicles could not continue moving.
      Ours fell into a banal trap - knowing their habit of bypassing the Americans on the sidelines, they deliberately chose a swampy area, i.e. "action" is planned. Conclusions: it is necessary to carry out engineering reconnaissance of the terrain before such "maneuvers", otherwise you can run into a land mine; it is better to train driver mechanics in order to make the most of the available equipment, or to use equipment with a higher cross-country ability. Well, and as the last "tool" - pour a barrel of crap from the hanging turntable on the heads of "nice guys from the USA, observing the measures of their own environmental safety. wassat
    42. 0
      April 3 2020 15: 18
      With the commanders and drivers of the military police units, it is necessary to conduct tactical drill exercises "Walking by machine" and passing off tests for actions in various terrain conditions. bully
    43. 0
      April 3 2020 15: 27
      It is necessary to give a tank or BMP or BMD to the escort column
    44. 0
      April 4 2020 00: 10
      Quote: Malyuta
      Quote: svp67
      In general, it is necessary to put the Urals instead of the Tigers in the columns, he will "butt" if he can and does not fall into the mud

      The armored vehicle "tigar" is from the netanalagafwmire series, which is why it is proving its status in the Syrian desert.
      Everyone said that in Russia it is impossible to call equipment "Tigers", and the police - the police - the people have very bad associations with these names.

      that's it, everyone remembers who had the zoo of predators))
      it wasn’t necessary to do it .. to do it, but would leave the factory abbreviation and number
    45. +2
      April 4 2020 01: 27
      Quote: figvam
      Quote: Spade
      But byad, superTigers were positioned

      The Tiger has a higher cross, it is a fact for whom I recall a short memory.

      maybe in this case the Tiger did not have armor protection and it was much easier

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