On the eve of the media reported negative export values ​​of Russian oil Urals


The day before, there was information from Argus Media that the export price of a barrel of Russian Urals oil fell below zero. Such indicators indicate that the cost of transporting oil, paying export duties, and other costs directly exceeded the cost of oil as a produced product.


The Agency reports that last Monday and Tuesday, the prices for Russian brand oil in the export version looked as follows: minus 1007 and 1200 rubles per ton, respectively.

Many decided that the publication Argus media is an April Fool’s joke, but it was reprinted by leading Russian news agencies, including TASS.

Suppliers were worried that oil sales transactions would result in losses. This in itself is an incredible phenomenon for the market, indicating that the oil market is in a deep crisis.

To date, Brent crude oil is trading at around $ 26,2 per barrel.

With such oil prices, as well as against the background of the well-known additional cause of the economic crisis, our country will have to actively use accumulated reserves.

Earlier it was reported that with oil prices in the region of $ 30, the reserves of the Russian Federation will last for 6-10 years. However, the price of oil dipped significantly below these indicators.
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  1. pmkemcity April 2 2020 06: 47 New
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    Why should the Russian Federation not create an LLC and buy when it’s cheap, in order to sell it when it’s expensive? There is something similar in the USA.
    1. raw174 April 2 2020 07: 09 New
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      Quote: pmkemcity
      Why should the Russian Federation not create an LLC and buy when it’s cheap, in order to sell it when it’s expensive?

      I am not an economist, but I think that our economy is too dependent on oil exports and cannot afford not to sell ...
      1. pmkemcity April 2 2020 07: 28 New
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        Quote: raw174
        I am not an economist, but I think that our economy is too dependent on oil exports and cannot afford not to sell ...

        Can he afford to give? A negative rate suggests that you also need to pay extra. That would be so at the gas station - refueled, got into the car, and the cashier with a bundle of notes runs after you tongue .
        1. Ros 56 April 2 2020 08: 01 New
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          I'm afraid she will have an automatic machine instead of bills to take away your car. fellow lol
        2. Ilya-spb April 2 2020 08: 04 New
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          What is the reason for this panic? Well fell and fell. Tomorrow will rise. Or in a month.

          Week and month are not indicators. Maybe in three months it will cost 80.
          1. Blondy April 2 2020 08: 30 New
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            At war. like in a war, and alarmists to the wall.
            1. Pereira April 2 2020 08: 37 New
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              We will beat with little blood in a foreign territory?
              Passed already. A lot of people were then shot for spreading panic rumors about an imminent war with Germany.
              1. Blondy April 2 2020 09: 12 New
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                Oh, there are such serious people, and I with my comments.
            2. Ilya-spb April 2 2020 09: 23 New
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              Correctly. While to the virtual)))

              I will explain it again. If oil costs $ 2 within 20 months, well, even 15 ... And within 10 months its average monthly cost, for example, $ 55-60. What will be its average annual price?
        3. Blackmokona April 2 2020 09: 14 New
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          Oil storage costs money; huge storage facilities will need to be built and maintained
          1. Stalllker April 2 2020 10: 16 New
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            They are not often served, namely tank cleaning, painting, fire extinguishing checks and alarms. Head of the warehouse, a couple of drones and security
            1. Blackmokona April 2 2020 11: 10 New
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              And all this will constantly eat money, and storage tanks for at least 3 months of production will require a huge amount
              1. Vadim237 April 2 2020 11: 24 New
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                Such storage is not a problem to build.
                1. Arpad April 2 2020 11: 27 New
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                  Quote: Vadim237
                  Such storage is not a problem to build.

                  all is not a problem when there is time, money and production capacity.
                  I wonder which of these three necessary things are missing now?
                2. Stalllker April 2 2020 13: 11 New
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                  They wrote you right, there’s no time for that already. This should have been done the day before yesterday.
              2. Stalllker April 2 2020 13: 10 New
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                Everything eats money !!! Even the money itself !!!
        4. Geosun April 2 2020 10: 48 New
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          Oil is sold under long-term contracts. That is, company A undertakes to supply company B with a certain amount of oil during the year in equal shares, monthly, at the exchange price at the beginning of each month, for a deviation from the contract of more than 10% - a fine. Something like this.
        5. raw174 April 2 2020 11: 58 New
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          Quote: pmkemcity
          Can he afford to give? A negative rate suggests that you also need to pay extra

          Yes, this is necessary to preserve markets, as a short-term measure. For oil imports, in addition to money, we also need infrastructure, expensive and not needed, in fact ...
    2. Malyuta April 2 2020 07: 27 New
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      Quote: pmkemcity
      Why should the Russian Federation not create an LLC and buy when it’s cheap, in order to sell it when it’s expensive? There is something similar in the USA.

      In fact, the Russian Federation is an LLC, even rather AOZT, whose owners and directors have privatized revenues and nationalized expenses throughout the country.
    3. bar
      bar April 2 2020 07: 43 New
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      There are not so many oil storage tanks to accumulate this oil. And those that are are filled under the neck. And even the tanker fleet is flooded to the eyeballs. This is the reason for the "negative price".
      1. Olgovich April 2 2020 08: 39 New
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        Quote: bar
        There are not so many oil storage tanks to accumulate this oil. And those that are are filled under the neck. And even the tanker fleet is flooded to the eyeballs. This is the reason for the "negative price".

        That's right!
        And they were filled even during the refusal of Russia to reduce oil production: there was nowhere to "" store "its reduced excess, which meant, in this case, the shutdown of wells, and this is fraught ....
      2. WIKI April 2 2020 09: 11 New
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        Quote: bar
        There are not so many oil storage tanks to accumulate this oil. And those that are are filled under the neck. And even the tanker fleet is flooded to the eyeballs. This is the reason for the "negative price".

        According to IHS analysis, of the three largest world oil producers, Russia has the smallest number of available storage facilities - for about eight days. These figures are based on the volume of production that can be maintained if exports run out. Saudi Arabia has 18 days and 30 days in the United States.
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          bar April 2 2020 12: 24 New
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          of the three largest world oil producers, Russia has the smallest number of available storage facilities

          Nothing for myself, everything for people ... sad
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    5. Vadim777 April 2 2020 11: 36 New
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      Already built flows cn1, the power of Siberia, Turkish, cn2, really plows cn1, cn2 can only supply Baltic water in the meadow while you still want to use budget funds?
    6. iouris April 2 2020 12: 16 New
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      Quote: pmkemcity
      create an LLC and buy when it's cheap

      It would not have been necessary to collect pipes from the bottom of the sea and sell for scrap, until the Poles realized it. And if, alternative energy was created, and the girl Greta is a typical "black swan"?
  2. svp67 April 2 2020 06: 47 New
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    At times, we still have to pay extra to take our oil .... But this cannot last long. But to mean, after they preserve production and run out of reserves, oil will become scarce. It’s just how soon it will depend on the economic recovery in China and the USA, and the faster it all happens, the less people will be without work and money ... In short, the prospects are not encouraging ...
    1. mat-vey April 2 2020 06: 51 New
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      It also depends on OPEC .... How much the princes rested - "the east is a delicate matter", sorry for the banality ...
      1. Ross xnumx April 2 2020 07: 07 New
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        On the eve of the media reported negative export values ​​of Russian oil Urals

        This is such a “tricky move with a horse” ... wassat In Russia it was called: “Beat your own, so that strangers are afraid.”
        As a result of this “cunning Putin plan”, funds from the NWF, the need for which the “edros”, who have lost the confidence of the people, have been talking for so long, are slowly and confidently moving abroad. And we, mere mortals, who are waiting and waiting for everything, are hoping and hoping for everything, we will get fat over the muslims.
        Here the other movie was caught the other day:

        There are only two outcomes: either arrest and condemn the author for libel, or ...
        1. mat-vey April 2 2020 07: 11 New
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          Quote: ROSS 42
          This is such a "tricky move with a horse" ... wassat In Russia it was called: "Beat your own so that strangers are afraid."

          I got the feeling that "they outwitted themselves."
          1. private person April 2 2020 07: 24 New
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            Ay "patriots" who shouted that the Russian economy does not depend on oil prices where you are. Your way out.
            1. mat-vey April 2 2020 07: 25 New
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              Quote: private person
              Ay "patriots" who shouted that the Russian economy does not depend on oil prices where you are. Your way out.

              It seems they’ve already left while they’re leaving the ambush ..
            2. Lena Petrova April 2 2020 08: 45 New
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              Now it’s not sweet even for those who do not depend on these prices at all. That's when everything settles down, then we will count the chickens.
            3. Stirbjorn April 2 2020 09: 21 New
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              Quote: private person
              Ay "patriots" who shouted that the Russian economy does not depend on oil prices where you are. Your way out.

              They screamed as the price of oil rose
              1. lelik613 April 3 2020 06: 57 New
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                Well, so it does not depend on INCREASING oil revenues. It depends on their decline.
          2. The leader of the Redskins April 2 2020 07: 46 New
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            And I suggest asking ... No! Demand more sanctions! They are useful)))
            1. Nastia makarova April 2 2020 08: 18 New
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              recently extended sanctions))) they say that in two weeks there will be new ones from the usa
        2. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 2 2020 07: 25 New
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          What do you personally hope for? What will make your life better? And why should it become better if you yourself do nothing for this, and rely only on aliens?
          1. mat-vey April 2 2020 07: 28 New
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            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            and rely only on aliens?

            What, stick to the thought - "The government on another planet lives, dear"
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 2 2020 07: 51 New
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              Paraphrasing an old joke.
              So that you and your colleagues feel peaceful, there are two options: realistic and fantastic. Realistic - so that aliens arrive and organize continuous bliss for you until the end of your life, and fantastic - so that you yourself do something, and do not complain endlessly about everything.
              1. mat-vey April 2 2020 07: 54 New
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                Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                Paraphrasing an old joke.
                So that you and your colleagues feel peaceful, there are two options: realistic and fantastic. Realistic - so that aliens arrive and organize continuous bliss for you until the end of your life, and fantastic - so that you yourself do something, and do not complain endlessly about everything.

                Well, what can a theorized reputable mentor advise? In parallel with the existing RF, is there another state to build? Are you not an extremist?
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 2 2020 08: 01 New
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                  The man of action seeks opportunities, and the lazy person seeks excuses.
                  1. mat-vey April 2 2020 08: 03 New
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                    Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                    The man of action seeks opportunities, and the lazy person seeks excuses.

                    Well, what are you justifying here? What is the next crisis because of the brilliant leadership - is it just a gift for the country?
                    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 2 2020 08: 07 New
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                      You behave like a child who is absolutely convinced of the mortality of the world by the fact that his little fist fell apart.
                      1. mat-vey April 2 2020 08: 16 New
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                        You are there, something about “thinking about a person” and about “exceptions” was broadcasting ... You seem to even be an “exception” among “exceptions”.
                        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                        that his little fist fell apart.

                        Although if for you a country with a multimillion-dollar population is Kulichik ..
          2. Ross xnumx April 2 2020 07: 37 New
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            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            And why should she get better

            If you ask me, then because you didn’t steal from the state, you didn’t make profits by robbing others. For surviving to retirement and having the right to a decent life when I have AT LEAST!!! they didn’t take away what I was able to earn, perpetual inflation, higher taxes and tariffs, and high cost of drugs.
            Because Russians are not required to feed parasites that have bred in the country
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich April 2 2020 07: 53 New
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              Why do you consider your life unworthy? You live in a Khrushchik, but would you like a cottage on the banks of a river? Eat dumplings, but would you like marbled beef? What do you miss? And why do you think you deserve what you are claiming?
              1. mat-vey April 2 2020 08: 18 New
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                Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                Why do you consider your life unworthy? You live in a Khrushchik, but would you like a cottage on the banks of a river? Eat dumplings, but would you like marbled beef? What do you miss? And why do you think you deserve what you are claiming?

                Are you trying to develop all extrasensory abilities in yourself?
          3. SOVIET UNION 2 April 2 2020 08: 26 New
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            Where does this opinion come from?
            What do you personally hope for? What will make your life better? And why should it become better if you yourself do nothing for this, and rely only on aliens?
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      2. SOVIET UNION 2 April 2 2020 07: 44 New
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        East is a delicate matter? Or maybe the East as a capricious old woman ?! AND! Comrade Sukhov! After all, Ukupnik sang like that! Why forget about it !? laughing
        1. mat-vey April 2 2020 07: 50 New
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          Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
          East is a delicate matter? Or maybe the East as a capricious old woman ?! AND! Comrade Sukhov! After all, Ukupnik sang like that! Why forget about it !? laughing

          Is it “we” that are being forgotten? Or all the same, “high-class specialists”.
          PySy But if you were a participant in negotiations with OPEC, then yes - you))
      3. Vadim777 April 2 2020 11: 37 New
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        . How many princes

        Until the last petrodollor ....
    2. syndicalist April 2 2020 07: 23 New
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      Quote: svp67
      after preserving production and running out of reserves, oil will become scarce

      Well conservation is a complex of very expensive activities. It is possible that selling at a negative price will bring less loss.
      1. private person April 2 2020 07: 38 New
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        It is possible that selling at a negative price will bring less loss.


        Maybe. BUT somehow it does not fit in my head to sell (or rather give it to myself) at a loss. And why let me ask to preserve the well if it is possible to stop or reduce production to a minimum?
        1. Nastia makarova April 2 2020 08: 20 New
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          it’s written that this is an April Fool’s joke
          1. Arpad April 2 2020 08: 22 New
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            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            it’s written that this is an April Fool’s joke

            absolutely no joke.
            Russian Urals oil for delivery to North-Western Europe (NWE) fell another $ 3,20 and reached the minimum recorded in March 1999 - $ 13 per barrel. It is reported by Argus Media.

            it was March 30th.
            1. Nastia makarova April 2 2020 08: 27 New
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              even if so then the joke is that the state all early earns profit from duties, Sechin suffers
              1. Arpad April 2 2020 08: 50 New
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                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                even if so then the joke is that the state all early earns profit from duties, Sechin suffers

                Unhappy.
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              3. private person April 2 2020 10: 00 New
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                the state earns profit early

                From or from what or rather from which? So Sechin and KO, they don’t lose anything from them, the salary they regularly receive and it is equal to the annual budget of some region of the region, even the region of Russia.
          2. private person April 2 2020 09: 54 New
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            it’s written that this is an April Fool’s joke

            Where is it written? Who is joking like that?
      2. Malyuta April 2 2020 07: 42 New
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        Quote: syndicalist
        It is possible that more profitable to sell at a negative price.

        It feels like we're crazy! Quite seriously, expressions began to be used. ", negative price", "negative growth", "positive dynamics of the fall", "profit at a negative price".
        The fairy tale "Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors" has become a reality and familiar everyday life.
        1. unaha April 2 2020 10: 02 New
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          The paradox is that sometimes such expressions are true. But in general, "the diagnosis is serious and the forecast is sad")))
      3. Ross xnumx April 2 2020 07: 46 New
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        Quote: syndicalist
        Well conservation is a complex of very expensive activities. It is possible that selling at a negative price will bring less loss.

        Yes, what are you saying? And in Russia it was enough to pour lead or tin into the "well" ... wassat
        Thus, they were punished for “spoiling money,” or, more simply, for counterfeiting. It is believed that then counterfeit coins were melted and those who were caught in greed and greed were fed to their fill.
        Instead of tin, lead was also used. Most likely because it also melts easily. It is believed that this was a purely Russian preventive measure, but many scholars believe that the princes borrowed punishment from the Romans, although the punishment was also found in the Jews.

        Maybe such a measure would stop different "experimenters" over people.
      4. AUL
        AUL April 2 2020 11: 06 New
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        Quote: syndicalist
        Well conservation is a complex of very expensive activities. It is possible that selling at a negative price will bring less loss.

        Well, firstly, conservation and temporary suspension of production are far from the same thing.
        Secondly, calculate what the storage of oil, for which there is no demand at the moment, flies into.
        And the third, in my opinion, is the most important. Oil is a non-renewable resource. Our reserves are still quite large, but not unlimited. And in any case, in the future, when the world's oil reserves subside, the price of it will skyrocket. So to pay for getting rid of these reserves is the height of adyism!
        Although, from the point of view of temporary workers, this is normal.
    3. Malyuta April 2 2020 07: 35 New
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      Quote: svp67
      In times, we still have to pay extra to take our oil ....

      The "successes" in foreign policy are becoming apparent.
      Quote: svp67
      It’s just how soon it will depend on the economic recovery in China and the USA, and the faster it all happens, the less people will be without work and money ... In short, the prospects are not encouraging ...

      And this is strange, Colleague, no one even hopes to mention the economic recovery of the Russian Federation, judging by your comment, but this is the diagnosis of jerks and breakouts, swings and swings.
    4. pmkemcity April 2 2020 07: 55 New
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      Quote: svp67
      In times, we still have to pay extra to take our oil ....

      Lived to a brighter future - selling for rubles has become more profitable than for dollars!
    5. Vadim237 April 2 2020 11: 38 New
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      We don’t have to pay anything to anyone - the price of $ 26 is the cost of producing a barrel from 9 to 15 bucks. Now they will simply cut production in conjunction with a decrease in demand and will wait for Rosneft, Lukoil and other oil and gas companies to return the world economy to their normal condition for self-support in cases of crises associated with reduced sales and falling oil prices.
  3. Avior April 2 2020 06: 50 New
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    If such a marketing move is directed against American shale oil, it’s easier to declare that oil is free for everyone, at own expense.
    And if all the same it is supposed to make a profit from the sale of oil, then we must admit that something went wrong, and take action.
    But I wonder what needs to be done so that gasoline is similarly sold?
    Drove in, refueled, and you paid extra. smile
    1. aybolyt678 April 2 2020 07: 12 New
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      Quote: Avior
      If such a marketing move is directed against US shale oil

      Against shale oil? laughing -dollar has become more expensive, oil is cheaper, oil is bought for paper, a lot of paper is printed - inflation is inevitable, that is, an airbag is created for the mattress economy. They robbed everyone again
      1. Avior April 2 2020 07: 14 New
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        I also remember how it was massively convinced that it was such a multi-pathway to undermine and destroy shale oil production in the United States.
        But selling at a surcharge is strong. If gas were sold like this, sales would rise sharply smile
    2. Ross xnumx April 2 2020 07: 18 New
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      Quote: Avior
      But I wonder what needs to be done so that gasoline is similarly sold?

      I could offer you one option, but for some it will be uncomfortable to hang on lampposts ... wassat

      request How to make oil sold cheaper than drinking water has already been invented. Last Friday, Novak slammed the door in front of OPEC members. yes
      1. Avior April 2 2020 07: 22 New
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        No, well, cheaper alright.
        Free yet wherever you go. But trading with a surcharge is somehow already too much smile
        1. SOVIET UNION 2 April 2 2020 08: 36 New
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          But trading with a surcharge is somehow already too much
          Why not? The vaults are full. Oil is being extracted. Where to get the mined? Can wells be mothballed ?! Can! Then re-preserve! They probably thought it was more profitable to pay extra. But the psychology of the 90s, of course, cannot endure this. How so !? Prices can only rise! And then such a bummer! It turns out they can still stand, fall, and you can still give your own! This is a break for some businessmen! And what is the HSE school? What does she think about this? Where did she put her tongue on this fact?
      2. mat-vey April 2 2020 07: 24 New
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        Last Friday, Novak slammed the door in front of OPEC members.

        And just some kind of coincidence, well, purely by accident - the oil princes, who had previously planned to cut production to raise prices, suddenly increased the supply-offer .. Well, just a coincidence ..
        1. syndicalist April 2 2020 08: 06 New
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          Saudi princes are a very specific people. For them, form is often much more important than the action itself. And the action was really carried out in a demonstratively offensive manner. Therefore, hopes for some kind of resuscitation of OPEC + are hardly justified.
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            Quote: syndicalist
            Saudi princes are a very specific people. For them, form is often much more important than the action itself. And the action was really carried out in a demonstratively offensive manner. Therefore, hopes for some kind of resuscitation of OPEC + are hardly justified.

            I’m trying about this ...
        2. Nastia makarova April 2 2020 08: 22 New
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          prices are mainly due to the virus fell
      3. Malyuta April 2 2020 07: 55 New
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        I could offer you one option, but some will be uncomfortable hanging on lampposts.

        It is possible that they will be unsightly, but very beautiful. good
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Last Friday, Novak slammed the door in front of OPEC members.

        Mr. Novak was approved for this position by his boss Citizen Putin, and Novak citizen cannot slam the doors of his own free will, the only way he can slam de permission is only his own ears.
    3. Mountain shooter April 2 2020 07: 27 New
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      Quote: Avior
      And if all the same it is supposed to make a profit from the sale of oil, then we must admit that something went wrong, and take action.

      If you decide to squeeze a competitor out of the market, try to keep the low price LONG ... So that he will not return to his place soon. Or he didn’t come back at all ... And it's not about KSA ... Therefore, we see Trump, who is extremely excited, who of course knows how to MAKE an agreement between Russia and KSA, and religion prevents him from curbing the production of oil shale ... Well, after a couple of months, religious beliefs will change , and the world cartel will be concluded. Accordingly, the losses of these months will be compensated by the quick return of the price to a comfortable zone ... At the same time, excess futures will be removed from the market, or they will be ten times more than real oil ... wassat
      1. Avior April 2 2020 07: 38 New
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        And how long does it take to sell oil with a surcharge on top of the indicator for this? A year, two, five?
        The shale mining cycles are much shorter than the classic, it will return to the market pretty quickly, have passed.
        1. Mountain shooter April 2 2020 07: 45 New
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          Quote: Avior
          The shale mining cycles are much shorter than the classic, it will return to the market pretty quickly, have passed.

          Do you know exactly about the "slate"? Or is it someone from our liberoids suggested? Remember how shale came back? KSA sold the REDUCED quotas, oil rose, remained at a decent level for a long time, which allowed the oil shale to receive investments and raise production ... Now investors and funds, as well as insurance companies, can suffer huge losses.
          Can the investor climb into the same loop again? Or rather, if he wants to? Bankruptcy, an unpleasant thing ... although familiar, even for the current president ...
          1. Avior April 2 2020 07: 52 New
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            Do you know for sure? Throw a link to a serious apolitical source on this topic, I read it with pleasure.
            hi
            1. Mountain shooter April 2 2020 07: 59 New
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              Quote: Avior
              Do you know for sure? Throw a link to a serious apolitical source on this topic, I read it with pleasure.

              Will Bloomberg fit? They are published almost every day about this ... Although no, they are too politicized.
              And generally speaking. Well, Trampush would have raised this issue altogether if low oil was profitable for him ... It’s important not how many shale companies go bankrupt. And then, whether there will be those who want to buy their cheaper assets ... and restart production ... or all the equipment will turn into a pile of rusty scrap metal.
              1. Avior April 2 2020 08: 09 New
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                And what, Bloomberg writes that shale mining will never be reborn in principle?
                It’s kind of like the goal is being declared.
                I would like to see where they write it
                1. Lannan Shi April 2 2020 08: 46 New
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                  Quote: Avior
                  I would like to see where they write it

                  And nobody writes such a heresy anywhere. And the slate is still far from death. Oxy, for example, are those that are number 1 shale, even the quarterly dividends were not canceled, cut hard, but not canceled. Going second in the top of the shale reduced the number of active rigs from 15 to 12. Which is still more than necessary to maintain production levels. Those. even if right now they will not increase production, then with the rise in oil prices it will be a matter of a week to put into operation an already completed well. Simply put, the shale industry is all terrible, they will go broke and die, but dividends are paid and they are preparing a reserve for the future. So, the shale industry is dying exotic. Yeah.
          2. syndicalist April 2 2020 08: 19 New
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            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Bankruptcy, a nasty thing ...

            For the owner, this is really unpleasant. But then to us a light bulb the names of specific owners. But for the industry itself there is nothing wrong with that. Moreover, stopping production on a shale well is much cheaper than on a conventional one.
            1. Vadim237 April 2 2020 11: 45 New
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              You will not give the cost figures - to compare the shutdown of production and the launch of a shale well and a conventional one.
      2. Arpad April 2 2020 07: 58 New
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        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        . Well, after a couple of months, religious beliefs will change, and the world cartel will be concluded

        it’s not entirely clear what such an optimistic statement is based on.
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Accordingly, the losses of these months will be compensated by the quick return of the price to a comfortable zone.

        the comfort zone is 65 per barrel, how can one compensate by returning to where you were?
        Somehow mathematically does not add up. You can compensate for the take-off price exceeding previously comfortable.
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        At the same time, excess futures will be removed from the market

        i.e ? What does excess futures mean?
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        and then they are ten times more than real oil

        well. yes, well, yes - all the storages are packed to capacity, and you all tell tales about some kind of excess futures.
        Understand the concept of a futures contract.
        1. Mountain shooter April 2 2020 08: 14 New
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          Quote: Arpad
          i.e ? What does excess futures mean?
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          and then they are ten times more than real oil

          well. yes, well, yes - all the storages are packed to capacity, and you all tell tales about some kind of excess futures.
          Understand the concept of a futures contract.

          I know what a futures contract is. And you should ask if all these contracts are provided with "live" oil ... And how they are treated at the moment of espiration ... This is an exciting action, I was very surprised when I found out ... Such a casino!
          1. Arpad April 2 2020 08: 31 New
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            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            I know what a futures contract is. And you should ask if all these contracts are provided with "live" oil.

            of course .
            Futures (from the English futures contract or the English futures, futures contract or futures contract) is a derivative financial instrument (contract) on the stock exchange for the sale of the underlying asset (commodity, security, etc.), at the conclusion of which the parties (seller and the buyer) agree only about the price level and delivery time.

            on the fingers it looks something like this.
            You promise me to deliver the goods in say 3 months, and I pay you in advance, for the price of which we agreed today. I pay now !!!!
            those. You want to say that someone paid, but did not receive the goods?
            What is it like ?
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            contracts are provided by live oil

            they are provided with tomatoes: negative
            Enough already post garbage.
            I can resell the contract (futures), pledge itd etc., but the delivery date is not canceled - this is the execution of the contract.
            There is live oil.
            And the Urals also trades in futures, including - you say that there is no live oil there?
            https://www.moex.com/ru/derivatives/commodity/oil/
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Such a casino!

            Oh well. all the tales, all the air - and then gasoline is taken and the oil storage facilities are filled with what?
            Casino chips?
            1. Mountain shooter April 2 2020 08: 38 New
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              Quote: Arpad
              Enough already post garbage.
              I can resell the contract (futures), pledge itd etc., but the delivery date is not canceled - this is the execution of the contract

              You can. Ideally, futures should work that way. But alas ...
              And about the slate - here, straight from the tin:
              http://www.profinance.ru/news/2020/04/01/bx4r-byvshij-lider-slantsevoj-otrasli-podal-na-bankrotstvo.html
              1. Arpad April 2 2020 09: 15 New
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                Quote: Mountain Shooter
                And about the slate - here, straight from the tin:

                it’s clear that the dollar will collapse. The USA will disappear, Yolustone will explode, Lenin will rise from the mausoleum and together with Eun will recreate the USSR and lead the world to a brighter future
        2. Mountain shooter April 2 2020 08: 45 New
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          Look at what I shared: Oil stains. Part I: Oil Futures As They Are @MIUI | https://ngs-penza.ru/about/poleznaya-informatsiya/neftyanye-razvody-chast-i-fyuchersy-na-neft-kak-oni-est/
          Popularly so.
          1. Arpad April 2 2020 09: 20 New
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            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Look at what I shared: Oil stains.

            oil stains - that’s what / Putin. Sechin and Solovyov and the media are doing with the population of the Russian Federation.

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              Quote: Arpad

              oil stains - that’s what / Putin. Sechin and Solovyov and the media are doing with the population of the Russian Federation.

              The opinion is reinforced concrete ... so what is there to argue ... Time will tell ...
    4. Malyuta April 2 2020 07: 50 New
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      Quote: Avior
      If such a marketing move is directed against American shale oil, it’s easier to declare that oil is free for everyone, at own expense.

      Such marketers and managers had to be killed from a slingshot in childhood, but such president’s friends as Mr. Sechin are very alive and very healthy and in this case have already become a threat to the physical existence of the residents of the Russian Federation themselves.
      Quote: Avior
      But I wonder what needs to be done so that gasoline is similarly sold?
      Drove in, refueled, and you paid extra.

      Change the power. hi
    5. Moon April 2 2020 08: 05 New
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      But I wonder what needs to be done so that gasoline is similarly sold?

      pay yourself for all the taxes and profits of the gas station
  4. Pessimist22 April 2 2020 06: 52 New
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    The oligarchs demand government support due to low oil prices.
    1. Gardamir April 2 2020 07: 23 New
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      SMS kami chip?
      1. Pessimist22 April 2 2020 07: 35 New
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        It is better to collect through the First.
      2. Malyuta April 2 2020 08: 04 New
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        Quote: Pessimist22
        The oligarchs demand government support due to low oil prices.

        Quote: Gardamir
        SMS kami chip?

        None of them will go anywhere! Especially for them, a special financial bag was created called for the plebs "stabilization fund". For several decades, the bondmen have been tightening their belts to accumulate the notorious "stabilization fund", then they are continuing to tighten their belts so that this "fund" can be successfully spent for the benefit of the oligarchs, officials and other "needy childhood friends, summer colleagues and neighbors. That was in 2008 and in 2014 oh, that will continue to be so.
    2. Arpad April 2 2020 08: 05 New
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      Quote: Pessimist22
      The oligarchs demand government support due to low oil prices.

      who would doubt that the media and Leontyev had already broken their heads changing shoes while explaining a poly-groove
      OPEC + is not profitable for us + - It was not we who started the sauds, we wanted OPEC + - these prices are favorable for us for 10 years - we and the Saudis will break shale oil - China will buy all oil from us - China is not a friend , he does not want to buy our oil - The plot of the USA and the Saudis is against us - Trump is trying to reconcile us with the Saudis.
      Are there too many versions in 3 weeks?
      What does each have to do with Russia - an innocent victim of circumstances, and nobody remembers how Novak simply slammed the door in the face of OPEC.
      It’s easy to enter the war, but nobody knows how to get out of it and with what losses.
      1. Gardamir April 2 2020 09: 30 New
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        He knows, he knows. He even said that the price of oil is a challenge to our economy. Thus, he recognized that the Russian economy is oil and nothing more.
        1. Vadim237 April 2 2020 11: 57 New
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          "He thereby admitted that the Russian economy is oil and nothing else." You’ve come up with this garbage yourself.
    3. SOVIET UNION 2 April 2 2020 08: 39 New
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      Beggars must support the rich !? And how did the rich support the rogue? Will we butt?
      1. Snail N9 April 2 2020 10: 10 New
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        Here, when oil “crashed” in price, even some deputies began to ask a question - why, in Russia, gas prices do not fall, as in other countries? Well, on TV, the “expert”, another “talking head,” first began to mumble something about the fact that the price of oil practically does not affect the price of gasoline, they say production and transportation are the main components in the price, a perplexing question, and what about in other countries -Is it somehow different? - began that in Russia the price of gasoline is not being formed in the same way as in other countries, such as the so-called “price damper” that is working for us, that is, in order not to offend gasoline producers, not to deprive their incomes, and not to prices were lifted on the Russian market during oil growth spikes introduced, this very “damper” - when the oil price is high, then gasoline in the domestic market does not rise in price, but rises in price slowly, while gas producers allegedly lose revenue, but then, these shortfalls in income are compensated when the price of oil falls, due to the fact that the price of gasoline in the domestic Russian market does not fall, but remains the same or even grows slightly (in fact, it always "grows"). Here we have such a "damper" of prices. The main thing is that gasoline producers should always be good.
        1. Vadim237 April 2 2020 12: 02 New
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          Because all regions receive 2 trillion rubles each year from excise taxes on fuel for budgets - it’s clear that no one in the government will cut such a financial chunk from them.
  5. Bourgeois Winda April 2 2020 07: 04 New
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    So etozh excellent, you can fill our Russia with cheap oil and gasoline! ... but .. it doesn’t work out .. everything is with the oligarch and Western companies, so why then dump it all if someone else's oil ???
    1. Arpad April 2 2020 08: 34 New
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      So etozh excellent, you can fill our Russia with cheap oil and gasoline!

      Well flooded, and then what?
      it remains only in quarantine conditions to force people to wind circles around yards, burning cheap gasoline.
      Otherwise, all oil storages will overflow and the seller will have to pay extra for gasoline to be taken - otherwise the production will stop.
      What does this remind me of?
      And so the article is about it - only with oil.
  6. illi April 2 2020 07: 12 New
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    Yes, nothing. We’ll not finish but take out. We are not used to it. Well, to compensate oil companies for losses, you need to introduce an air tax for the population.
    1. mat-vey April 2 2020 07: 31 New
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      Quote: illi
      it is necessary to introduce an air tax for the population.

      It is possible not on the “air”, it is possible on the “teeth” - the Turkish partners had this. So we can refer to foreign experience.
    2. Pessimist22 April 2 2020 07: 43 New
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      You can throw a little more on gasoline and diesel.
    3. Malyuta April 2 2020 08: 07 New
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      Quote: illi
      Well, to compensate oil companies for losses, you need to introduce an air tax for the population.

      The tax on air is an anachronism of the past, but the tax on two kidneys is a breakthrough
    4. SOVIET UNION 2 April 2 2020 08: 49 New
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      it is necessary to introduce an air tax for the population.
      Do not prompt! laughing We constantly have floods and fires. After all, they can introduce a tax on cataclysms! Plus permanent compensation from fires, floods and disasters! They can introduce compulsory motor insurance and compulsory home insurance (real estate) as an example! And how many people are dying !? They can introduce a ritual tax, so up to 2 percent is what you need! Recycling tax on cars is. A recycling tax on bicycles 10% from January is. It seems already introduced to the electronics. Plato is. It remains to expand it to all. MHI is. Pension tax is. Overhaul is. Garbage collection is. The next step is the utilization fee for building materials, furniture, packaging, road and pavement! In general, the work is endless!
  7. leshiy076 April 2 2020 07: 46 New
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    The situation is repeating itself. In 2008, we had about $ 600 billion in reserve. There was a crisis and these reserves were allowed to support the banking system, is this a miracle? Instead of supporting the real sector, industries, enterprises, the state supported the parasites. And how it was presented beautifully: "banks are the blood of the economy, they need to be supported, otherwise the economy will rise." Then our banks and their yards gave credit for 300-400 American rubles. Again, it looked pretty decent, they gave a kind of loan and interest. And someone wondered where these banks are now, where are the loans, where are the interest? In theory, they should have returned, but they just didn’t return. Those banks either went bankrupt or closed. In short, there is no money. Now is the year 2020, we have accumulated enough reserves too, again we need a reason to put our hand in the egg. And then the oil fell and the coronavirus, ideal circumstances. So wait, they’ll cut the reserves now, redistribute something, and we will again restore the country after the next crisis. And this will continue until the constitutional system changes.
    1. Arpad April 2 2020 08: 09 New
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      Quote: leshiy076
      Instead of supporting the real sector, industries, enterprises, the state supported the parasites.

      and who is the real sector?
      In Russia today, the oil industry is the main real sector.
      that is, the situation looks something like this - save 10 years of money (taking profits from the oil industry) for a rainy day and spend it on saving the oil industry on that rainy day.
      The output is pretty much zero.
      1. private person April 2 2020 10: 11 New
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        In Russia today, the oil industry is the main real sector.

        But what about the statements of our guarantor that Russia got off the "oil needle"? Oh now and rake the minuses from the "patriots".

        and who is the real sector?

        These are probably the speculators who bring clothes and consumer goods from China and Turkey, while calling themselves entrepreneurs. Here are the ears from the donkey.
      2. Vadim237 April 2 2020 12: 09 New
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        In the structure of GDP, oil and gas occupies 19% of non-oil exports amounted to $ 163 billion - so oil is far from the only thing on which the economy rests.
  8. RUS96 April 2 2020 07: 54 New
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    Meanwhile, Russian aid in the fight against # COVID19 has arrived in the United States.
    1. Arpad April 2 2020 12: 36 New
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      Quote: RUS96
      Meanwhile, Russian aid in the fight against # COVID19 has arrived in the United States.

      this is not a help.
      Help is free.
      Medical masks and equipment received by the United States as a gift from Russia, as the Russian press reported for several days, were not humanitarian aid, but commercial supply. This was reported on the website of the US Department of State.
      In continuation of the March 30 telephone conversation between President Trump and President Putin, the United States agreed to purchase the necessary medicines, including mechanical ventilation and personal protective equipment, from Russia, which were transferred on April 1 to FEMA (US Federal Agency for Emergency Management), " in the statement of the department.

      Earlier, many Russian media reported with fanfare that Russia had made a generous gift by sending the An-124-100 Ruslan to the United States with medical equipment. It is worth noting that shortly before this, the Russian government issued a decree banning the export of medical supplies abroad for the duration of emergency measures to combat the spread of the coronavirus epidemic.
  9. ABM
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    Pay attention to the words “payment of export duties” (that is, the Russian budget receives money), “payment of transportation” (pipeline companies receive money and pay taxes)
  10. Alexey from Perm April 2 2020 08: 32 New
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    Someone very smart in the government outwitted himself)))
  11. Whirlwind April 2 2020 08: 33 New
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    Let not 10, but 6 years. BUT, what will become with the USA over these 6 years, where the dollar is tied to OPEC oil?
    What will happen to them if oil demand continues to fall? Who will buy US "debt securities"? Well, etc. etc....
    1. Avior April 2 2020 08: 38 New
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      All is correct
      Only not the dollar, but the ruble is pegged
    2. Arpad April 2 2020 08: 48 New
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      Quote: Whirlwind
      Let not 10, but 6 years.

      what are 10 or 6?
      Do you believe these tales?
      Quote: Whirlwind
      What will happen to the United States over these 6 years, where the dollar is tied to OPEC oil?



      Quote: Whirlwind
      What will happen to them if oil demand continues to fall? Who will buy US "debt securities"?

      Nightingale applauds you standing.
  12. grandfather_Kostya April 2 2020 08: 41 New
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    Such indicators show that the cost of transporting oil, paying export duties, and other costs directly exceeded the cost of oil as a produced product.

    With a strong desire, you can deal with this list of costs and some points “temporarily adjust” by the effort of political will. You look, but the minus has already turned into a plus.
    1. Arpad April 2 2020 08: 45 New
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      Quote: grandfather_Kostya
      With a strong desire, you can deal with this list of costs and some items by the effort of the political will to "temporarily adjust"

      At a price of 16 bucks a barrel, the only thing that can be corrected by willpower is gravity. Well, so that oil would flow into the pipe by gravity and reach the consumer.
      1. grandfather_Kostya April 2 2020 08: 53 New
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        There was a hint of export duties, which are, as it were, in the hands of the exporter.
  13. cniza April 2 2020 09: 07 New
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    The Agency reports that last Monday and Tuesday, the prices for Russian brand oil in the export version looked as follows: minus 1007 and 1200 rubles per ton, respectively.


    This is according to the calculations of the oil industry workers, but can I calculate ...?
  14. Stils April 2 2020 09: 21 New
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    Well, that’s it ... now you can summarize the 20 year rule of the bald storyteller.
  15. primaala April 2 2020 09: 25 New
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    with oil prices in the region of $ 30, Russia's reserves are enough for 6-10 years
    ==================
    Who issues such forecasts ??? lol
    In the wreck ... of such analysts.
    (amateurs what to take from them).
    1. Snail N9 April 2 2020 10: 24 New
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      with oil prices in the region of $ 30, Russia's reserves are enough for 6-10 years
      ==================
      Who issues such forecasts ??? lol
      In the wreck ... of such analysts.
      (amateurs what to take from them).

      Enough ...... yeah.
      Russia's international reserves for the week fell by $ 29,8 billion
      They amount to $ 551,2 billion.

      https://tass.ru/ekonomika/8086885?utm_source=finobzor.ru
      I am also struck by the “professionalism” of “predictive analysts” who have emerged from a glorious cohort of “effective managers and economists” at the Higher School of Economics named after Gaidar.
      1. primaala April 2 2020 10: 59 New
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        MOSCOW, March 26. / TASS /. As of March 20, Russia's international reserves amounted to $ 551,2 billion, having decreased over the week by $ 29,8 billion (-5,1%), the Bank of Russia said.

        The regulator noted that such a drop in the indicator occurred "under the predominant influence of negative foreign exchange and market revaluation."

        So do not underestimate the possibilities ...
        The Fed’s “regulator”, to which the Dependent Central Banks of countries are tied, let them then calculate their losses.
        Although ... they do not stop the machine. Believe me ... today the global economy has been blown away like a soap bubble. And by the way ... the consumer both received and receives the FLOW ... (think ... the price has decreased). Without pants, we certainly will not stay.
  16. Vadim777 April 2 2020 11: 04 New
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    Asymmetric answer - we will take a percentage of income on bank deposits of citizens
    1. Snail N9 April 2 2020 11: 23 New
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      But remember how "rosy" it all began? “What slogans” sounded, what “farfars sang”, all with “jokes and jokes”? On the other hand, something now, "jokes-jokes, patriotic chants" is inaudible. But there is a positive moment in the situation: some people can now knock themselves on the chest and speak on every corner with a blue eye: “It's not us, this is COVID-19! Everything is done! This is another reason to rally ranks in the face of a common threat! Now, "rock the boat!" And spin it all in a new way .... already, like, with "zeroing" ......
    2. Vadim237 April 2 2020 12: 20 New
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      And 15% of the amounts withdrawn abroad.
  17. Piramidon April 2 2020 11: 47 New
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    Earlier it was reported that with oil prices in the region of $ 30, Russia's reserves would last for 6-10 years.

    This is provided that there will be no so-called “misuse” of these reserves. And we cannot do without it. Half the stolen, you just need to uncork the "egg". And the bankers will need to support the gas and oil producers.
  18. sanik2020 April 2 2020 12: 11 New
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    The war of attrition, all roam and all equally bad.
    The oil workers drown together and are not saved, but with the hope: - Die today and I will tomorrow.
  19. voyaka uh April 2 2020 12: 50 New
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    Oil importers are good: India, China.
    So, Lukashenko wants to buy Russian oil at $ 4 per barrel.
  20. Kushka April 2 2020 13: 02 New
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    Fans make forecasts on the resource of Russia and when it will end,
    I can offer to consult with Hitler and those who "inspired" him.
    The resource of Russia is UNLIMITED. Do not wait!
  21. unaha April 2 2020 13: 07 New
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    Quote: Communist Front of the Bolsheviks
    Because apart from us Communists, there is no one to believe in the Russian Federation at all.

    If you remove from this phrase "except for the Communists", it will become true. And it’s worth believing only in God (who needs it), and the rest is desirable to think, analyze and draw conclusions.
  22. Mentat April 2 2020 13: 09 New
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    Quote: raw174
    Quote: pmkemcity
    Why should the Russian Federation not create an LLC and buy when it’s cheap, in order to sell it when it’s expensive?

    I am not an economist, but I think that our economy is too dependent on oil exports and cannot afford not to sell ...

    The contribution of the sale of oil is about 30% in budget revenues.
    We continue to sell, not because the economy is heavily dependent, but because there is a trade war for a global redistribution of the oil and oil products market.
  23. Mentat April 2 2020 13: 15 New
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    Quote: Arpad
    Quote: Whirlwind
    Let not 10, but 6 years.

    what are 10 or 6?
    Do you believe these tales?
    Nightingale applauds you standing.

    Do you propose to believe without looking at the fresh-bot with the devil on the ava, which, of course, brings the goodness and justice of Russia?
  24. Mentat April 2 2020 13: 19 New
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    Quote: Communist Front of the Bolsheviks
    For the sake of the collapse and division of the Russian Federation, all of its natural resources from the United States, it is quite reasonable to preserve its shale oil production and support the Saudis in their struggle to capture all markets in the world. The United States, unlike the Russian Federation, can stop its oil industry for several years and buy oil for free from the Saudis. This will affect the US GDP in fractions of a percent. Ronald Reagan would do just that.

    Can not. Because the entire shale industry in the United States rests on bank loans that go bankrupt. Money is forced to flow including in the banking sector, a lot of money. It cannot last long.
  25. Grading April 2 2020 14: 50 New
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    Oil export from Russia in January - March 2020 amounted to 64,015 million tons, which is 2,5% less than a year earlier, according to the report of the Central Dispatch Department (CDU) of the fuel and energy complex. At the same time, in March, supplies of Russian oil abroad fell by 6,2% to 21,44 million tons.
  26. Grading April 2 2020 14: 55 New
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    Quote: Snail N9
    But remember how "rosy" it all began? “What slogans” sounded, what “farfars sang”, all with “jokes and jokes”? On the other hand, something now, "jokes-jokes, patriotic chants" is inaudible. But there is a positive moment in the situation: some people can now knock themselves on the chest and speak on every corner with a blue eye: “It's not us, this is COVID-19! Everything is done! This is another reason to rally ranks in the face of a common threat! Now, "rock the boat!" And spin it all in a new way .... already, like, with "zeroing" ......

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    “Any cook can rule the state” and trade in oil laughing
  28. Mentat April 2 2020 16: 36 New
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    Quote: Mentat
    Quote: Communist Front of the Bolsheviks
    For the sake of the collapse and division of the Russian Federation, all of its natural resources from the United States, it is quite reasonable to preserve its shale oil production and support the Saudis in their struggle to capture all markets in the world. The United States, unlike the Russian Federation, can stop its oil industry for several years and buy oil for free from the Saudis. This will affect the US GDP in fractions of a percent. Ronald Reagan would do just that.

    Can not. Because the entire shale industry in the United States rests on bank loans that go bankrupt. Money is forced to flow including in the banking sector, a lot of money. It cannot last long.

    Minusators, can you refute what was said? Or is it your gnashing of teeth?
    1. mat-vey April 3 2020 07: 05 New
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      Quote: Mentat
      Or is it your gnashing of teeth?

      Is it a rattle on a file? Are you a comedian?
      Although - why are you so “cons" concerned? Or pluses? And you put these signs yourself? And if you put a detailed "justification publish"?
    2. mat-vey April 3 2020 10: 31 New
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      Well, here is a classic example - there is a "minus", but there is no "justification" ...)))
      Is that such a gnashing of teeth?