U.S. intelligence informs White House about understating coronavirus infected data in China

It became known about the report of American intelligence transferred to the US Presidential Administration. The report is reportedly devoted to the status of the incidence of new coronavirus in China.

U.S. intelligence claims that the Chinese authorities intentionally underestimate the number of detected cases of infection with COVID-19.

The materials of the American media, referring to the "secret" report, said literally the following:

Chinese data on the incidence of a new type of coronavirus are fake, the incidence is actually higher.

About how it can be in reality, not reported.

Recall that in Wuhan, China, declared a "victory over the epidemic." The statistics published by China today look like this: 82724 infected (+33 cases per day), 3321 deaths (mortality rates - 4,02%).

For comparison, in the USA: 215175 infected, mortality 5110 (2,38%).

According to official statistics, the United States ranks first in the number of people infected with the new coronavirus.

In Russia, the number of infected reached 2780 people, and the mortality rate rose to the level of 0,98%.

In general, the number of infected COVID-19 on the planet is approaching one million (more than 905 thousand cases). For comparison: every 7-8th inhabitant of the planet is sick with seasonal flu every year in the world (according to WHO data), while the minimum mortality rates are about 240 thousand people per year.

Comments

[Pessimist22]

Clearly, there was so much panic, as if Aliens had arrived on Earth.

[reservist]

... the minimum mortality rate is about 240 thousand people per year.

those. "on average" less than a thousand a day ...

how many deaths a day will be at the peak of a pandemic?

[Volodin]

Quote: reservist

those. "on average" less than a thousand a day ...

This is just not "average". it the minimum figures from WHO research. And at the peak and with the flu, it reaches 5 thousand. But when all this is summed up and divided by the number of days for the entire duration of the epidemic, and you get the same "average".

[Evil543]

A thousand are not a thousand, but most importantly, the frequency of emergence of new viruses in recent decades. Pork, avian, ebola, right now the crown. What will be next and when?

[Vadim237]

At the next - a week after infection, people will spit out parts of the rotted lungs when coughing - that I will doubt such a thing again in China.

[reservist]

I read about the flu

The last pandemic occurred in 2009 and was caused by the influenza A virus (H1N1). Globally, it is estimated that this pandemic caused 100 to 000 deaths in the first year alone.

www.euro.who.int/ru/health-topics/communicable-diseases/influenza/pandemic-influenza

but for flu:
- mortality is many times lower
- the situation is completely different with asymptomatic carriers,
- complications are not so serious,
- there are vaccines and medicines

[Avior]

And what is this data?

[reservist]

they say that the schedule is built according to the World Health Organization
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports

[Avior]

that is, they died and recovered in one day on March 31 in the world, or did I misunderstand?

[reservist]

schedule of cured / deceased by day until March 31st

[knn54]

I think so. that the Yankees do not feel better from this information.

[reservist]

so from the "average temperature in the hospital" hardly anyone will feel better ...
over the past 771 hours, the growth of infected in Russia is +595, of which +XNUMX in Moscow

[rocket757]

Minke whales do not want to be champions in everything !!!
And what about amer ... intelligence? Sho say? Not aglitskaya, but they seem to be what they seem .... truth is not there by definition.

[rocket757]

Suitable infa from the morning, while the body, functionally, has not woken up! Believable and quite in line with what can be taken for the truth .....
however, there is NO smoke without fire and claim that Amer ... Sky intelligence, the most, most honest in the world, it is unlikely anyone will want it, IT IS NOT PROVENABLE!

[Reptiloid]

...... NOT PROVEN .....

Good morning, Victor! Everything as usual! Everyone is to blame for everything! Except staff members!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Reptiloid

Everything as usual! Everyone is to blame for everything! Except staff members!

An article almost 50 years ago:
http://www.vokrugsveta.ru/vs/article/3303/

[rocket757]

Hi Dmitry
While much is not clear and will everything be clear later, is this a question?
Just to measure those who are worse is inappropriate now. What is the point, economic, political, military ???
It seems that Western intelligence, politicians are ready to earn on such an infe, points are bonuses !!!
And their "honesty", competence, they have already proved / demonstrated more than once. Therefore, even an unconfirmed negative infa in their direction does not cause great doubts.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

Hi Dmitry ........ Just to measure those who are worse is inappropriate now. What is the point, economic, political, military ???
It seems that Western intelligence, politicians are ready to earn on such an infe, points are bonuses !!!
And their "honesty", competence, they have already proved / demonstrated more than once. Therefore, even an unconfirmed negative infa in their direction does not cause great doubts.

What's the point? Apparently, some time will begin to pass and there will be charges against the authorities from citizens? And the authorities prepare in advance, the arrows translate

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: rocket757

to claim that amer ... Sky intelligence, the most, most honest in the world, hardly anyone wants, UNSPECIFIED!

After this intelligence "got" a test tube with washing powder, after which the mattresses were destroyed in Iraq, all other data obtained by the mattresses must be taken into account with the opposite result.

[rocket757]

They lure, fantasize many .... to whom to award the palm, so you will not say at once.
However, they substitute themselves or their politicians drown "their own", saving their personal belongings, it’s not the point ... there are a lot of lies, they have lit such a mess that they themselves risk drowning in it!
.

[Astra wild]

Too much mystery agrees: 1) whether the report itself, possibly the fiction of a reporter; 2) that the report may have pornographic shots; 3) the secret report is not given to the media

[cost]

Earlier, on March 19, US President Donald Trump said that the withholding of information about the coronavirus by the Chinese authorities contributed to the emergence of the COVID-19 pandemic. "The world is paying a very high price for what they have done," the American president said in his message to the American people.
China, in turn, officially accused the United States of introducing the coronavirus, such a statement was made by diplomat Zhao Lijian. However, Chinese experts not only confirm the version of the bio-weapon, but also put forward it, defending, for several weeks.
Zhao Lijian, spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry, has charged the US military. He wrote that it was they who could have brought the coronavirus to Wuhan.
Lijiang drew his conclusions after speaking to Robert Redfield, Director of the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), at the US House of Representatives Oversight Committee. The representative of the Chinese Foreign Ministry said that after his report, Redfield was arrested.
In general, both countries make mutual accusations.

[Reptiloid]

What is interesting in this case? How do representatives of other countries behave themselves?
Will anyone support China?

.... officially accused the United States of introducing coronavirus. .... charges against the US military ......

Someone striped support?

[Operator]

Director of the U.S. Federal Agency - Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Robert Redfield, on March 11, 2020, in his speech on the oversight committee of the U.S. House of Representatives, confirmed that they were registered in the U.S. in the second half of 2019. several cases of pneumonia with an unknown pathogen.

[Valery Valery]

US intelligence informed the White House

This phrase reminds Soviet jokes about the Armenian radio.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Valery Valery

This phrase reminds Soviet jokes about the Armenian radio.

Or "a test tube of white powder."

[rocket757]

That's right, at the expense of "more and more often", even Goebbels is not necessary to remember ..... it all started a lot, much earlier!
Just the speed of distribution and the coverage per unit of time are growing, growing ......

[rotmistr60]

U.S. intelligence claims Chinese authorities deliberately underestimate COVID-19 infections

I don't want to be ahead of the rest of the planet in terms of the number of people infected and dead from the virus. But no matter how hard the American intelligence service tries, which, in Trump's opinion, is "the best, the most equipped, the most informed, the most professional", but there is no escape from the reality backed by simple numbers.
Regarding yesterday’s reaction to our plane with help for the United States. Or maybe critics should look at it from the other side? Russia sent humanitarian aid to the United States and the United States accepted it, which the whole world learned about. It turns out that the "hegemon" is not entirely hegemonic.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rotmistr60

U.S. intelligence claims Chinese authorities deliberately underestimate COVID-19 infections

...... Or maybe critics should look at it from the other side? Russia sent humanitarian aid to the United States and the United States accepted it, which the whole world learned about. It turns out that the "hegemon" is not entirely hegemonic.

China also helped them. And not only them. So, the Americans are showing "" adherence to principles "----- they will not thank, but slander will begin. ... I have no doubt that our support will be quickly forgotten. However, help is still needed.

[GRIGORIY76]

I don’t want to defend the states, but I think that 1 in the world in terms of the number of infected people thanks to the huge number of tests conducted and the large population. In fact, there should be even more sick / recovered, because it is known that some viruses are asymptomatic.

[Blackmokona]

Russia and during the explosions of the twin towers sent a humanitarian. And the US just as calmly accepted. At least some kind of nonsense, there are only two shopping centers blew up.
Ours is just a reflex, send a humitarist. And the USA does not refuse freebies

[svp67]

It became known about the report of American intelligence transferred to the US Presidential Administration. The report is reportedly devoted to the status of the incidence of new coronavirus in China.

Another "leak" was also organized, without specifics - this is "a good mine, with a bad game." You just need to show the people of America that somewhere is even worse than theirs, and even China, so it is necessary to discredit 100%, after all, the main competitor and adversary

[Reptiloid]

In 2005 there was a hurricane, New Orleans and other territories were badly damaged. Then there were accusations against the authorities that you could notice everything for a long time, think about people

[smart fellow]

We must justify ourselves for the special operation to introduce coronavirus to China. It turns out that the United States tried to harm China, but did more harm to itself. Otherwise, what difference does it make to where, how much is sick?
At the same time, Italy, Spain and other countries they generally drum.

[Avior]

With seasonal flu, such unthinkable quarantine measures are not taken.
If without them, but even if we rely on the death rates voiced by China, then if every seventh falls ill, then this is a billion people, which means that 40 million will die.
In fact, much more will get sick, since there is no immunity to the new virus and it is more aggressive, infection is also possible during the incubation period, while there are no symptoms.
That is real, if the new infection is treated like the flu, it dies under a hundred or another million people, while they are ill and the immune system appears.
But it must be taken into account that even if Pravda gets sick at least a couple of billion people at the same time, you can forget about the help of doctors even in the most difficult cases, they can hardly cope with a million sick people, and if there are a couple thousand times more sick people, then it’s easier than a hospital close for a while so that the doctors themselves remain alive for the future
So quarantine is bad, but it’s less evil than a general epidemic

[GUSAR]

https://www.mk.ru/politics/2020/04/01/informaciya-o-koronaviruse-okazalas-dlya-vlastey-strashnee-samoy-bolezni.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

[Avior]

I think the article does not fully understand the scale of the current pandemic
With swine flu in two years, 700-800 million, 280 thousand died
Now 700 million per month, and mortality is much higher
Even according to Chinese mortality data, now 4% would have died with swine flu 2.8 million
But the current virus is much more aggressive, spreads faster, and there are no drugs against it

[Avior]

Mistake of course
700 thousand per month, even with the Chinese official mortality rate - 280 thousand

[Paul Siebert]

The usual American tactic is to blame your neighbor’s house when your house is on fire.
Like, it's burning hot!
Americans!
Save your Castle on the hill!
A roof has already taken up on your house. Start to move out soon!

[I]

Sounds like the truth. Too fast the epidemic has scattered around the world.
And the population density in China is very high. Which also helps the spread of coronavirus.
And yet there the Communists are in power. And they are well-known silencers of real data.

[Arpad]

Quote: it's me

Sounds like the truth. Too fast the epidemic has scattered around the world.

here I am about that.
It is not clear why to ignore the facts.
The military virus research laboratory is located in Wuhan, and it was there that the epidemic began. This is exactly what the lab experimented with coronoviruses.
it is a fact.
Ignoring the start of the epidemic by China is the same fact.
And now the simplest question is, why did the virus scatter all over the world, but absolutely did not cross the boundaries of Wuhan?
Why didn’t he get to Beijing, Shanghai. Hong Kong
1500 million in China for a minute, with an incubation period of up to 3 weeks, why didn’t it go to China?
I do not believe the Chinese and their statistics.
Very often they played with these things and the same thing before the virus.
As an example

The Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) of China said that the number of subscribers of mobile operators in the country from December to February decreased by 21 million people.

In general, the number of mobile communication users decreased from 1,6 billion to 1,58 billion people. According to reports by China Mobile, the world's largest mobile operator, in January and February the number of its users fell by more than 8 million people. This is the first decline in the company's subscribers since 2000, when China Mobile began publishing monthly reports on the number of users. And China Telecom only lost 5,6 million of its subscribers last month.

Well, part of the course is a natural population decline, part is bankruptcy, but the rest is really difficult to explain.
21 million minus and this is a very specific anomaly. This has never happened before.
Yes, 1% of this number due to the coronavirus gives 210 thousand losses.

[Maks1995]

Yes, the most vital news in recent years, among the sanctions, import substitution and scientific and technological breakthroughs:
What did they say in the USA?

What is it that they said in the USA / Ukraine / Fatherland / Geyropin - the most necessary news for life over the past 6 years

[I]

So why read? Yes, then comment?

[Maks1995]

It’s necessary, Vasya, it’s necessary.

[askort154]

The materials of the American media, referring to the "secret" report, said literally the following:

Stunned! It turns out that in the US there are secrets available only to the media.
As they say, "in secret - to the whole world."

[I]

,, According to representatives of the humanitarian mission, in Gromo over the past XNUMX hours in a boarding house an abnormal series of deaths of patients with coronavirus has been recorded.

Those infected without any serious signs of illness simply fell asleep and did not wake up. ,,

[GUSAR]

In, in. Read, short and very interesting: https://www.mk.ru/politics/2020/04/01/informaciya-o-koronaviruse-okazalas-dlya-vlastey-strashnee-samoy-bolezni.html?utm_referrer=https%3A % 2F% 2Fzen.yandex.com

[vmo]

Americans are crying, China has overtaken again, "great" power and laughter and sin, they compare everything and everyone to themselves.

[Freemason Mason]

Why are you gloating? What is the use of it for us? Well, the two superpowers butt out with each other and let them butt. RF on the development of each of them, like a turtle to the moon.
Or are you just another supporter of the witness sect of the imminent collapse of the United States?

[thinker]

In the states, they at least refer to the “secret” report, and in Israel, without any idea, they scare with clips from the thriller -

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly shares a clip from the Hallmark miniseries 2007 Pandemic and stated that this is evidence that Iran is hiding its true losses from the coronavirus and dumps dead bodies into piles of garbage.

https://www.businessinsider.com/netanyahu-shared-fake-tv-clip-pandemic-iran-hiding-coronavirus-deaths-2020-4

[Guazdilla]

"American Intelligence" Connected to Information Support of Trump's Election Campaign? I had to read about competent biotechnologists who are able to construct a virus from molecules on their own. There will be a number of those in the world who have filled a small room, and more than half of them will be of Chinese origin.
And, about antibodies in the blood of those already ill who are able to cure the newly infected, discovered by Chinese scientists, intelligence has not yet been reported?