The Pentagon does not consider it necessary to evacuate the crew of an infected aircraft carrier

The Pentagon will not evacuate personnel from the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, where an outbreak of coronavirus is recorded. This was stated by US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper on CBS.

According to the head of the Pentagon, he sees no need to evacuate personnel from the aircraft carrier, currently located at the naval base on the island of Guam. The sailors will be provided with the necessary medical supplies and accessories, and if necessary, additional doctors will be sent to the base. Esper assured reporters that there were "no seriously ill patients" among the crew.

I do not think that we are at this stage. We provide the aircraft carrier with many (medical) supplies, (...) medical assistance, and we send medical personnel as necessary. We are currently trying to contain the virus.

- said Esper, while acknowledging that he could not get acquainted in detail with the text of the letter from the captain of the aircraft carrier sent to the command of the US Navy.

Earlier it was reported that the captain of the aircraft carrier "Theodore Roosevelt" Brett Crozier demanded that the command of the US Navy provide space at the military base of the island of Guam to quarantine the entire crew of the ship, since it is impossible to ensure quarantine on the aircraft carrier itself. According to the latest data provided by Crozier, the number of cases of coronavirus on an aircraft carrier exceeded 100 people.

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[NEXUS]

The Pentagon will not evacuate personnel from the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, where an outbreak of coronavirus is recorded. This was stated by US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper on CBS.

According to the head of the Pentagon, he sees no need to evacuate personnel from the aircraft carrier, currently located at the naval base on the island of Guam. The sailors will be provided with the necessary medical supplies and accessories, and if necessary, additional doctors will be sent to the base. Esper assured reporters that there were "no seriously ill patients" among the crew.

And this is the attitude of the authorities towards their citizens. When people begin to die there, then they will say that they say they estimated the degree of threat is not true. Oops ...
Who was talking about the progressiveness of the United States and its freedom and opportunity?

[Andrea]

Here you are wrong, it is easier to control the disease on a ship than to release them ashore. Similar situations have already happened in history. Crews have always been harshly prohibited by the coast, period! The word "quarantine" is in circulation, just from there.

[YOUR]

There used to be at least one quarantine barge or old ship in each port.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Andrea

Here you are wrong, it is easier to control the disease on a ship than to release them ashore. Similar situations have already happened in history. Crews have always been harshly prohibited by the coast, period! The word "quarantine" is in circulation, just from there.

"Quarantine" from Italian - "40 days". For so long, the crews of sailors could not leave the arrived foreign ships that arrived in Italian ports during the epidemic that roamed Europe in the 14th century.

[abrakadabre]

"Quarantine" from Italian - "40 days". For so long, the crews of sailors could not leave the arrived foreign ships that arrived in Italian ports during the epidemic that roamed Europe in the 14th century.

Initially, quarantine (French quarantine), translated as "40 days", meant a 40-day period (one year) during which the vassal was obliged to fight on the side of his overlord, personally working out (with his retinue and his own vassals) the ownership of the feud, for which he brought homage to the overlord .. Completely at his own expense. After this period, the vassal could leave the overlord or continue to participate in the war at his own discretion - for a share in the booty, for an additional payment from the overlord, or for the sake of his own glory.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Andrea

Here you are wrong, it is easier to control the disease on the ship than to release them ashore.

We are talking about quarantine activities at BASE. Nobody says that sailors roamed the cities. They were denied such quarantine. That is, the risk of infection of other crew members increases significantly. Do not confuse soft with warm.

[Greenwood]

Quote: NEXUS

We are talking about quarantine activities at the BASE.

The base is on land. Where is the guarantee that someone will not flee into her wilderness with her to go around the neighborhood. Also, where is the guarantee that the base employees who talked with the sailors will not get infected themselves? And after that they may well leave the base for the city.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Greenwood

Where is the guarantee that someone will not flee into her wilderness with her to go around the neighborhood.

Quarantine assumes FULL ISOLATION, what kind of "go to the devil"?

Quote: Greenwood

And after that they may well leave the base for the city.

Can not. The quarantine conditions do not allow trips to the city, communication with citizens, etc.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: NEXUS

Quarantine assumes FULL ISOLATION,

Quarantine suggests, but the patient has. Our domestic hammers will not let you lie - which they literally force returned to the hospital.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Paranoid50

Quarantine suggests, but the patient has. Our domestic hammers will not let you lie - which they literally force returned to the hospital.

Well, the fact that the human idiocy carries the epidemic, I have said repeatedly. Here it’s not even a country, but a WORLD OF NOT SCARY IDIOTS.

[Greenwood]

Well, why are you carrying a blizzard then ?! An argument for the sake of argument ?! You know perfectly well that the human factor circumvents all conceivable and inconceivable prohibitions. On board it will be technically more difficult to break isolation.

[Greenwood]

You never know what quarantine suggests. Rules are successfully violated. Both with them and with us. It is much safer and easier to maintain quarantine on a ship rather than on land.

[Alex777]

Here you are wrong, it’s easier to control the disease on the ship than to release them ashore. Similar situations have already happened in history. With crews, the coast has always been strictly forbidden, and that’s the point!

Cheberashka to crocodile Gena: "... I'm bastard green as you dive ...".
Seriously, is there a little cruise ship off the coast of Japan?
When he arrived, there were about 8 cases. After 2 weeks of standing at the pier in quarantine, he became ill - 700. 8 died.
There were no air conditioners in those days that you are talking about.
Have you ever been to an American aircraft carrier?
I was. Kubrick for sailors from 12 and more.
Even the officers do not have separate cabins. Etc. etc.

[yang174]

here from the bell tower to them ... who prevented us from crossing the borders in February, when it was clear that the virus was in Europe? The border with China was blocked. By China they already knew that the virus can be transmitted from asymptomatic patients, does it make sense to measure the temperature in the plane? there was everyone in quarantine. and immediately it was necessary to prepare for the worst-case scenario with blocking the cities and the access system. Otherwise, some half-measures were taken, belated, and they were satisfied ... people were not at work and no one would transfer the money — half the country to gray and black work.
I’m more interested in what’s going to happen next, but don’t give a damn about them, even if everyone rests

[Nastia makarova]

gardens will save us)))) we will survive

[yang174]

we still have snow ... what gardens?
for +10 3rd day in total

[Nastia makarova]

Yes, no luck, we already plant seedlings in open ground cucumbers

[yang174]

South Ural, Chelyabinsk. In December, rain, in June, snow.

[Nastia makarova]

warm in Sochi)) but you will not pass to us

[yang174]

I know that my friend lives near Krasnodar. I always ask him not to talk about the weather.
I’m sitting in the yard in shorts, drinking Sam ... in February, then .. mother of him, we have -20

[Nastia makarova]

and in the south it’s hard for us to put that somewhere minus)))))

[yang174]

headless, who minus ... either you are no more than 20 years old, or you just eat in the head.
I can write to you over the years, when the snow was in June and when it rained in winter, and not only in December .. from 1998-99 from 31st to 1st, the weather changed from +8 to - 34 for one day. muck .... got amoeba .... how do you turn blood on life ...

[4ekist]

The decision is right. In our country with moderate to light lung disease, hospitals are not accepted, treatment at home in quarantine.

[eklmn]

“And this is the attitude of the authorities towards their citizens.”
Tell us how quarantine takes place on a Russian submarine - offshore or at sea? Or do you not know what about the boat?

[stels_07]

well, ka infected, slightly raise the jolly roger and take Anchorage

[Andrea]

It’s the same as evacuating a small town.
I am glad that he still failed for a while for some time.

[Sergey39]

Most likely, the base on the island of Guam will fail.

[Incvizitor]

All FSA would have come out that way longer.

[Mountain shooter]

After 5 days, the whole team will be ill. Young guys, not everyone will die ...

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

After 5 days, the whole team will be ill. Young guys, not everyone will die ...

All right. The logic is simple: the salvation of the dead is the work of the dead themselves.

[Mwg]

The most democratic democracy blooms with a violent color of democratic values ​​according to the principle: you die first, and then I will somehow. I won’t be surprised if, opposite the gates of the aircraft carrier, a checkpoint with a machine gunner was put up.

[rotmistr60]

The Pentagon will not evacuate personnel from the aircraft carrier "Theodore Roosevelt"

That's right, because all within the scope of the planned losses. Trump said 200, which means 000. The Supreme knows best.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: rotmistr60

Trump said 200, which means 000. The Supreme knows best.

And ours sent them a BIG plane with medical equipment and medicines ...
Interesting: with payment or for free ... And this is after sanctions and declaring us enemies ... YESAAA, really!
Your deeds are wonderful, Lord. Again, this is our wide mysterious Russian soul, into which all sorts of crooks such as the Yankees will not be able to spit on occasion!
I hope the Almighty and the American people will correctly appreciate this act!

[Walking]

Quote: BoA KAA

Quote: rotmistr60

Trump said 200, which means 000. The Supreme knows best.

And ours sent them a BIG plane with medical equipment and medicines ...
Interesting: with payment or for free ... And this is after sanctions and declaring us enemies ... YESAAA, really!
Your deeds are wonderful, Lord. Again, this is our wide mysterious Russian soul, into which all sorts of crooks such as the Yankees will not be able to spit on occasion!
I hope the Almighty and the American people will correctly appreciate this act!

The American people will not even notice.

[CAT BAIYUN]

the captain of the aircraft carrier "Theodore Roosevelt" Brett Crozier demanded that the US Navy provide premises at the military base on the island of Guam for quarantine of the entire ship's crew

So what? What did the "strongest" army in the world say?

The Pentagon does not consider it necessary to evacuate the crew of an infected aircraft carrier

Well, something like this ..... I'm still wondering, what about the insurance they have? Is the clause on infection specifically with this virus?
Events take an interesting turn!

[Avior]

infectious diseases probably stipulated

[CAT BAIYUN]

.... this is the slippery word for sure ....

[Avior]

I can’t imagine that in the medical insurance of the military each type of virus was negotiated separately
however, if there is one, it’s interesting to see

[PSih2097]

The sailors will be provided with the necessary medical supplies and accessories, and if necessary, additional doctors will be sent to the base.

they’ll organize a tent hospital right on take-off ...

[Avior]

as an option
enough space

[knn54]

Coronavirus showed the TRUE face of the West.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: knn54

Coronavirus showed the TRUE face of the West.

They are already there, unashamedly stealing from each other means of protection against the virus.
The epidemic will end. How will they look into each other's eyes?
How will they talk about friendship?

[Demon_is_ada]

They are used to and long There is such a concept of "American smile" and an innocent look ... they have such traditions ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Demon_is_ada

They are used to and long

Well, it is clear why blue (obscene) lives there freely.

[cost]

The Pentagon does not consider it necessary to evacuate the crew of an infected aircraft carrier

Coronavirus showed the TRUE face of the West.

As the great O. Henry wrote? - "I am very sorry, Bill, but Bolivar will not stand two" (c)

[cherkas.oe]

Esper, while acknowledging that he could not familiarize himself with the text of the letter from the captain of the aircraft carrier sent to the command of the US Navy.

Probably he doesn’t know how to read, but looks decent, like the whole Pindocia

[Lipchanin]

Quote: cherkas.oe

Probably he doesn’t know how to read, but looks decent, like the whole Pindocia

Well a showcase doesn't mean a counter

[Avior]

this is logical, you can’t remove the whole team from a nuclear carrier
ship quarantine
especially since the ship is not small, it is quite possible to isolate in groups
young healthy ones - there will be few serious cases; those who have complications will be evacuated to the hospital.

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: Avior

this is logical, you can’t remove the whole team from a nuclear carrier

And you will enter their position send another "Ruslan" a replacement crew. Let the guys recover so far, and we will treat them there .

[Liam]

The proportions of 80% (mild cases) -15 (medium with hospitalization) -5 (critical with resuscitation) are equal for all groups of the population, regardless of age. Only the outcome for the last two groups is different. Young people are almost all pumped out, the elderly are not. But young people also need to be resuscitated to pump out

[Avior]

heavy and medium and evacuate

[Liam]

We also need to look at the capabilities of the medical unit on board. On an aircraft carrier, it should be like a small hospital at least. With all the bells and whistles

[Avior]

I think not such a small hospital
this is a warship, the hospital should be designed for the wounded in a combat situation, and not just for the sick in peacetime

[YOUR]

There is a large hospital on the ship itself. It is true that there is a virologist in a row, but in principle a therapist will be enough.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: YOUR

There is a large hospital on the ship itself.

There is no hospital there. There is a medical unit with all the equipment, mainly surgical, dentistry is. There is an insulator of beds for 20, I think.
And on board there are already more than 100 infected. The air circulation system is closed. But HLFs do not clear the air of the virus. Therefore, we need total disinfection of ALL rooms (Oh, horror !! They are there ....) and quartzing of residential and office premises, massive use of air disinfection units (such as in intensive care units). But the trouble is that the States were not preparing for such a development of events. And to help them (except RUSSIAN!), Especially no one is in a hurry. And now no one will give this equipment to another when they themselves are not enough ... The EU is a good example.
The advantage of the military system in its discipline and organization. No matter how we treat the Yankees, they will cope with this situevina. It's all about the issue price.
PS Some "visitors" VO. First of all, respect yourself. We are Russians ! And we ought not to rejoice in someone else's grief, our house is also on fire. Therefore, you should not be glad that your neighbor's cow died. Our goat is not easier!
Best regards,

[Vasyan1971]

Esper said, while acknowledging that he could not read in detail the text of the letter from the captain of the aircraft carrier sent to the US Navy command.

Wow, how familiar this is.
"I have not read it, but I condemn" ...

[Cowbra]

Once again - there is a case of a banal hysteria of the captain of an aircraft carrier. It is moored in the port. He has medical staff on board, I suppose, and more and more qualified than on this island. He beats in hysterics with his beak - "Sailors shouldn't die! But mulberries are an infection! What to do - you need to jump! To the island! There is land, we won't die there!"
Here it’s real - just fun in how SUCH got to the post of aircraft carrier commander.
And now, by the way, the tripods reacted correctly - the delivery of the necessary funds. Within the framework. All. Well, in general, there would be this hysteria - in a madhouse it would be necessary to take

[Avior]

reinsured
God forbid who dies, the investigation and the question, why didn’t they beat all the bells?
and hop from a service without a pension ...
I think that they themselves will organize quarantine on such a large ship, if necessary

[Cowbra]

Listen, Christmas trees, what kind of insurance is there? The floating city sailed to the wild island and yells - hey, ale! I'm dying here, this phrase "Sailors do not need to die." in a situation where you have 100 infected already overboard in the clinic already on the island, you have already dropped them off - and it’s not clear why - and you yell about death from coronavirus, where the mortality rate is about 3%!
What kind of reinsurance ?! A hysterical woman, moreover ... Well, it's not even possible to compare - I don't know that ... I read, for example, how a regiment in Northern Scotland was rushing about the cafeteria in 1941 - "" A-ah, the Germans have landed! " it's even softer ...
Pisi: these were Johnny Johnson's memoirs

[Avior]

and what should he do?
he has an official instruction on how quarantine is ensured; he cannot fulfill it verbatim with a full crew, so he writes, even if he understands that his appeal is impossible, so that you don’t blame him later
especially since we have not read what is written literally there

In a four-page letter to the U.S. Navy command, Captain Crozier indicated that only a small contingent of infected sailors was brought ashore for testing. The rest of the crew remains on board, where it is impossible to follow the official rules of the 14-day quarantine and social distance.

He asked "as soon as possible" to provide his sailors with the necessary quarantine facilities at the base in Guam.

Well, if you like to think that he’s hysterical, I won’t argue.
I think only that any ship commander would not be silent, if there were no conditions to comply with the official instructions, he would definitely write, so that later there would be no complaints

[Cowbra]

Quote: Avior

I think only that any ship commander would not be silent, if there were no conditions to comply with the official instructions, he would definitely write, so that later there would be no complaints

Here is the only option that this is a reaction to a stupid order, stupid here - about social distance. But even in this case. A letter in the San Francisco Chronicle newspaper ?! Okay, even that this is a (criminal) article - they probably have an analogue, but this is also hysterical. Who are you? Journalist, do you have a cap - did you borrow it from Ogood Fielding III from "There are only girls in jazz"? Why panic spread in the press, are you an officer or where? And this is not a summer study

[Avior]

everything is absolutely wrong
here is the original article in the Chronicle
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Captain-of-aircraft-carrier-with-growing-15170326.php
The ship’s commander wrote a letter to the command, not to the newspaper
The newspaper found out about the letter from the team, which approved the decision of the commander, and anonymously wrote about it in social networks
The Navy command generally approves a quarantine plan with isolation on the shore, and partly the team has already been withdrawn and, as they search for suitable premises, they will isolate more sailors
The very letter from the ship commander was that the process should be accelerated, leaving the necessary minimum crew on board.

US Pacific Fleet Adm. John Aquilino said Tuesday that the Navy is developing plans to get a number of sailors off the ship “as soon as possible” and to quarantine them in appropriate, isolated shelters on Guam. There is little infrastructure available, he said, so the effort includes asking the local government for spare hotels.

“We're saying the same thing,” Aquilino said of his plans and ship Capt. Brett Crozier's requests. “I think his concern is with the pace we get sailors off. Not that we're not going to get sailors off. I just want to be really clear, we will have to leave some number of sailors on that ship as we go through testing, quarantine and isolation to generate completely COVID-free sailors. ”

[Cowbra]

Quote: Avior

The newspaper found out about the letter from the team, which approved the decision of the commander,

Wait a moment. Commander .... Writes a letter to management. Suddenly the whole team finds out about this letter. And San Frisco - well, they learned by chance ... I don’t understand from whom, in the same place the commander of the bear carrier in complete secrecy, observing the workflow standards ... Wrote something like that, chipboard, probably?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Cowbra

how SUCH got to the post of aircraft carrier commander.

You are in vain! The AVU commander is a professional of the highest standard, take my word for it. This is not our system of "social elevators", where the closest relatives of the promoted person work as lifters! The ams have just everything in order with this, "I do not want" those in power to be guarded and protected by anyone. Give them pros! In Annapolis they are expelled from the academy for a cheat sheet, but what about us?

Quote: Cowbra

A floating city sailed to a wild island ...

Before writing this, they would have looked better on the I-net, what is the naval base on Guam! Even Sochi will envy this infrastructure and climate! But Severomorsk cannot even dream of such a thing! I think Vilyuchinsk is also ... So, those who are heavy with Roosevelt will be nursed in a coastal hospital. Definitely! (V. Zhirinovsky)

Quote: Avior

God forbid who dies

Quote: Cowbra

you're yelling about death from a coronovirus, where mortality is about 3%!

However, 3% of 5,5 thousand people = 165 people! Isn't it too much for one AVU !? And rightly so, a colleague of Avior says: "God forbid who dies," Cap's relatives will drag him through the courts, and the native department will transfer all the arrows to you and make them the last! Or are there few such examples in history?

[Avior]

I gave a link to the original article above
in fact, the commander wrote a letter to the command raising the question of speeding up the removal of the team with the exception of the necessary minimum ashore quarantine, the command for and is trying to speed up the process, but they believe that this is delayed by the complexity of the ship and a lot of weapons and equipment on the ship.

[Cowbra]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

In vain you are so! Commander of the AVU - pros of the highest standard

But didn’t I understand why? That is what killed me!
And now let me calmly ...
Do you have a flash? Did you isolate them? - They are on the shore
Are you in danger? You are not sitting in an APC. Hangars, for example - with partitions - sit for two weeks. And someone delivers food and cleans the bucket, rudely. This is real? Yes. Will help? Yes.
The question is - what the fuck * am I?
Further. We continue our conversation.
Where did the songs in the newspapers come from? sorry by rank?
We finish

[Alf]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

The commander of the AVU - pros of the highest standard, take my word for it.

Judging by the number of accidents with US ships, or rather the number of accidents caused by gouging on the bridge, this is not entirely true.

[K-50]

Esper assured reporters that there were "no seriously ill people" among the crew members.

As I understand it, Ping does not consider the coronavirus "a serious disease."
So what do they die like cockroaches under dichlorvos?

[Alf]

Quote: K-50

As I understand it, Ping does not consider the coronavirus "a serious disease."
So what do they die like cockroaches under dichlorvos?

Do you really think that the US government cares about the US population? Remember how some years ago a large city in the south was flooded. There the rich were quickly evacuated, but the rest were simply beaten.

[K-50]

Do you really think that the US government cares about the US population?

Yes, I actually do not care what happens to them there. But! Caring for the population is the responsibility of the government, because that's what they are appointed for.

[Aliken]

And why, it’s cheaper and faster to spray dust from the plane over the ship, and the issue is resolved.

[AU Ivanov.]

A torpedo with special warheads is more effective than dust.

[usr01]

That Esper on board ...
so as not to be clever ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

The captain of this aircraft carrier is, by the way, Brett Crozier

Who watched the series "Terror", he will understand, hehe)) And to attract the commander for alarmism, a thousand cuttlefish in his ass.

[Gennady Fomkin]

If this is not April 1, then another well-designed move to extend the oil on fire. Just like that, the atomic cruiser commander merged the Old. !

[Gennady Fomkin]

What's the problem with bunks? Let the Fed printing press print the missing bunks, or at least posters with bunks :-).

In addition, Goldman Sachs can sell derivatives to the sailors, guaranteeing them certain payments if there are no beds.

[Sergei 23]

Here I completely agree with the Pentagon!

[Dzafdet]

it is necessary to offer Americans to strike with Caliber with YaBCh. And we will carry out disinfection and disposal ..

[Ragnarek]

Look, the Pirates of the Caribbean movie about the ship of the dead turned out to be documentary

[Alf]

On board, the dofig people, under 5 thousand, will throw a couple of sick people who die at night overboard, no one will notice.