GMOs, pesticides, growth hormones: How we ourselves push nature to fight us


Mankind is in a panic. We cannot quickly and effectively cope with the next virus. The human body is unable independently, without outside help, to cope with the virus, of which there were a great many, are and will be. Any person, whether he wants it or does not want to, daily hears a summary of the losses that mankind suffers in this war.


Politicians of the highest level are literally in line to urge us to stop all contacts between us on television, stop the work of enterprises and organizations, and voluntarily switch to self-imprisonment. Our houses have turned into medical boxes. Transformed simply because the virus kills. The virus is coming, and our defense is bursting at the seams.

Why is this happening? Why did man, a part of nature, become defenseless before the creation of this very nature? Why did the defense mechanisms laid down by nature in the human body in the process of evolution disappear? Are we the cause of this oddity? Are we in an effort to take everything from nature created the conditions when the usual mutation of the virus, of which there are many daily, has become a deadly reality?

Remember how much they say about pesticides, about antibiotics, about GMOs ... Probably, there is no person who would not hear about this problem, who would not know about the harm to human health of these inventions. However, for some reason, all these issues were considered only in one aspect, in the aspect of a healthy diet. Mankind has agreed that it is divided into those who can consume all these products, and those for whom these products are harmful.

You are what you eat


The topic of the influence of GMOs, pesticides, antibiotics and other inventions for increasing productivity, resistance to climatic cataclysms and other dangers for agricultural production by science has not been studied sufficiently. We humans only reacted to certain substances, the use of which clearly led to a change in humans.

At the beginning of experiments to achieve the desired commercial indicators in agriculture, scientists quite reasonably used the same principle that was laid down in any living organism. Hormones are naturally produced in living organisms and are actively involved in the system of life. Therefore, if you introduce chemicals into the body (most often these are cheap synthetic hormones, anabolics and steroids), you can accelerate the development, growth, synthesis and accumulation of substances.

Those readers who lived during the Soviet era remember the pork of those years. On any counter lay meat and thick chunks of bacon. It was believed that a pig cannot grow without accumulating fat. Now remember the market stalls today. Today's youth is already convinced that only some breeds of pigs give lard. The rest are “content” with a couple of centimeters of subcutaneous fat.

What we eat today, from the point of view of nature, can hardly be called food. Hormones are used in veterinary medicine, animal husbandry, poultry farming and generally wherever possible. Even your pet dog or cat may well be the product of hormones.

Hormones stimulate the growth and development of animals, accelerate weight gain. At one of the agricultural exhibitions, I saw a family of domestic pigs represented by one of the largest pig farms in Siberia. It is hard to believe, but the information table indicated such outstanding success of pig farmers: "reaches a weight of 100 kg in 100-110 days." And we are delighted!

Hormones are used to increase the digestibility of feed, improve multifertility, remember the strangeness of modern sheep, for some reason they give birth to two or three lamb constantly, accelerate puberty, regulate pregnancy, increase milk production. Man himself, at his whim, changed the life cycle of animals.

Even more noticeable changes in poultry. Today, even a person breathing evenly on chicken, ducklings or goose, knows that the chicken in the store and the chicken from the village are two completely different birds. And to taste, and in appearance. Even by smell. If someone is preparing a village chicken today, then the whole porch knows about it. A hen!

And what do we want if hormones with pronounced anabolic activity are openly used for fattening birds? The modern chicken is a bodybuilder. Somatotropin, insulin, amino acid derivatives: steroid, thyroid and their analogues ... And we eat it. And eat quite often.

Any idea brought to the point of absurdity becomes a bomb


In principle, using hormones to increase agricultural production is a good idea. Man, as it were, helps nature conduct an accelerated selection of animals to obtain certain qualities necessary precisely for the existence of man.

But what do we see today? The pursuit of profit makes manufacturers demand new, more effective and cheaper hormones from scientists. Simply put, manufacturers want substances that are hundreds of times more effective than natural hormones in their anabolic action! And such an order is being fulfilled ...

Today, drugs such as synestrol, dienestrol, diethylstilbestrol, hexestrol and others are widely used. At first glance, the danger of these drugs is relatively arbitrary. Well, they feed or inject an animal with anabolic steroids - so what?

The fact is that most artificial hormones, unlike natural, natural ones, are poorly metabolized. The body of the animal simply accumulates them. And in quite significant quantities. What's next? And then all these "warehouses" get into human food. They are automatically included in the food chain!

But that is not all. Synthetic hormones most often do not break down during cooking. They are resistant to heat treatment. Moreover, the human body perceives these hormones as its own. And, accordingly, it uses it as its own. That is, these hormones act on a person in the same way as on animals!

A bit of “anti-science”


Actually, I rarely write about my own theories. Just because I trust in this regard those who are more versed in the topic of the material. But today I will depart from this rule. I will give food for thought to readers. Moreover, what is written above does not apply to any particular country, but to the world as a whole. To most developed countries.

We are often surprised at the specific appearance of ordinary Americans. At the same time, we notice that our youth is becoming similar to these fat Yankees. The explanation for this for most is quite simple. In their years, we ate soup, and they are hot dogs. Well, let's be honest at least to ourselves. Remember the constant war that your mother waged with you for this soup. And their own "half sausage with sausage", which replaced this same soup. I doubt that modern youth eats dry food more than we do at their age.

And the second one. How we resent the rampant sex minorities! “This never happened before!” True, no explanation was given for this phenomenon. We are satisfied with the national "stupefied from idleness." But there must be some explanation for this.

So, in many countries, the use of hormones in raising animals is prohibited. True, to be honest to the end, farmers do not seek to comply with this requirement. The benefits of using hormones are too great. But in the US, hormones are allowed. And used globally.

Remember the main argument of the fighters with beer alcoholism? The one that scares men? The same pseudoscientific theory about phytoestrogen, which is contained in hops and is similar to the female hormone estrogen. But in this statement there is a rational kernel.

So what do farmers in the USA do? They use just female and male hormones. Females are administered male hormones, female males (remember the "beer belly" among fans of a foamy drink). Male testosterone promotes muscle growth, and female estradiol has a feminizing effect. There is another female hormone - progesterone. Hormone for preparing the female body for pregnancy. Increases appetite and slows down the digestive tract to increase nutrient intake.

My “anti-scientific theory” follows from the above. The hormones accumulated by the human body lead to the appearance of people of the "middle sex". Both in appearance and in sexual orientation. At least some scientists cite this fact as evidence of increasing the efficiency of animal husbandry in the United States (let me remind you of the food chain).

Why do not we stop using hormones


A reasonable question arises: why are hormones used if the consequences of their use are obvious? Why does humanity fall into this abyss?

The answer should be sought in the speeches of some politicians, including Russian ones. Overpopulation of the planet, lack of resources, misuse of these same resources and the like. We were told that the Earth is not rubber. What to live on this planet is a gift of fate. And not everyone deserves this gift.

But is it? Maybe you don’t have to “look deeper,” as one of the heroes of Arkady Raikin said? To paraphrase a great artist - let's “look more simply”! It's not about the number of people. The point is ... the pocket of agricultural producers.

Every kilogram of meat is a very specific money put in this pocket. No need to understand animal husbandry in order to understand the simple truth: the faster the animal gains weight, the lower the cost of its maintenance. The lower the cost of this meat itself. This means that there are more voiced coins in the farmer’s pocket and all who are near him.
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  1. Million April 1 2020 09: 28 New
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    The state is ruled by villains. That's the result.
    And capitalism is again: the temperature in apartments is 18 degrees, water is on the verge of technical, bread from fodder.
    Profit is most important!
    1. Svarog April 1 2020 09: 35 New
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      Quote: Million
      The state is ruled by villains. That's the result.

      This is an absolutely correct remark .. there is not a single sphere where we would have a positive result for an ordinary person, everything is focused on the profit of a narrow group of persons .. by prior agreement ..
      1. Million April 1 2020 09: 38 New
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        And the stores are now mostly networked and owned by someone incomprehensible. Of the local products, only bread and milk, and it is made from imported powder and palm oil
        1. carstorm 11 April 1 2020 09: 52 New
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          complete nonsense. for example, we have our own milk, just a huge number of all directions and all small storage and natural. and this is DV. not the best climate to say the least. while dairy plants grew like dirt. You don’t know what to choose. what kind of powders to hell and palm? all products with a palm tree now stand on separate display cases with markings and capital letters on stands for milk fat substitutes.
          1. Million April 1 2020 09: 53 New
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            and the corresponding number of cows?
            1. carstorm 11 April 1 2020 09: 58 New
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              exactly. This year, peasant farms in the region increased their livestock by 12,1%. Today they contain 3,3 thousand heads of cattle. In total, there are 17,8 thousand heads in the region, the Ministry of Agriculture of the Khabarovsk Territory said. I have no statistics on factories. plus imported from Primorye Jews and Amurki products. compete with each other fiercely. if the products do not have time to diverge, they drop the price immediately. let’s see a sight quite normal for me when you go to the store and a sign is 50 percent off, because the shelf life is small of some kind of producer. I’m making cottage cheese for myself to take kefir for it at 40 rubles per liter at a price of 70, it’s quite a usual situation again. and I note this is not a rare phenomenon but a constant movement.
              1. Million April 1 2020 10: 01 New
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                and in our region a cow can be seen only in pictures. But there is an abundance of milk and dairy products. We also have an average salary of 50 thousand. Only the people do not know about it
                1. carstorm 11 April 1 2020 10: 15 New
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                  if this milk means milk. it has a rigid GOST. if something is added then this is a dairy product and a drink. and you know, I also don’t see cows. I consume products; why should I see them? I’m just cool, for example, that, unlike the 80s, I don’t feel the taste of reconstituted milk. as you said powder. I can’t stand him from childhood, but in winter then it was just that.
                  1. Barmaleyka April 1 2020 11: 45 New
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                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    I’m just cool, for example, that, unlike the 80s, I don’t feel the taste of reconstituted milk. as you said powder. I can’t stand him from childhood, but in winter then it was just that.

                    stop bragging about "vinegar in three liter jars" if you drink a bodega with a shelf life of more than 3 days then it's NOT MILK
                    1. Victorio April 1 2020 13: 10 New
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                      Quote: Barmaleyka
                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      I’m just cool, for example, that, unlike the 80s, I don’t feel the taste of reconstituted milk. as you said powder. I can’t stand him from childhood, but in winter then it was just that.

                      stop bragging about “vinegar in three liter jars” if you drink burda with a shelf life of more than 3 days, then this NOT MILK

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                      Naturally, sterilization changes the composition somewhat, but we eat everything boiled and fried, and not in kind
                      1. Barmaleyka April 1 2020 13: 49 New
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                        Quote: Victorio
                        Naturally, sterilization slightly changes the composition, but we eat all boiled-fried

                        again, milk CANNOT BE STORED a month
                      2. mat-vey April 1 2020 14: 20 New
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                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        again, milk CANNOT BE STORED a month

                        So much more than a month ... it also turns sour to green ..
                      3. Barmaleyka April 1 2020 14: 32 New
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                        my milk - goat therefore I don’t know how the "milk" drink turns green in color, but I believe
                      4. mat-vey April 1 2020 14: 35 New
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                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        in green, but I believe

                        And I had to see - still impressed.
                  2. AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 14: 34 New
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                    Since the mid-60s there has been so-called Mozhaisk milk sterilized. Shelf life 3 months.
                  3. Victorio April 1 2020 23: 12 New
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                    Quote: Barmaleyka
                    Quote: Victorio
                    Naturally, sterilization slightly changes the composition, but we eat all boiled-fried

                    again, milk CANNOT BE STORED a month

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                    then boiled meat is no longer meat
                  4. Barmaleyka April 1 2020 23: 28 New
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                    everything can be reduced to absurdity, boiled meat is boiled meat, but the milk of their test tube is not milk from a cow or goat udder
                  5. Victorio April 1 2020 23: 29 New
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                    Quote: Barmaleyka
                    everything can be brought to the point of absurdity, boiled meat is boiled meat, but the milk of their test tube is not milk from a cow or goat udder

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                    don’t start with absurdity, claiming that milk with a shelf life of more than 3 days is burda
                  6. Barmaleyka April 1 2020 23: 33 New
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                    burda, milk is not stored beyond this time - SKYNET, possibly with the exception of goat
                    and accordingly it will not be milk but a dairy product
                    or milk with the addition of chemistry destroying sour-milk bacteria but then it will be the same chemical burda
                  7. Victorio April 1 2020 23: 36 New
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                    Quote: Barmaleyka
                    burda, milk is not stored beyond this time - SKYNET, possibly with the exception of goat
                    and accordingly it will not be milk but a dairy product
                    or milk with the addition of chemistry destroying sour-milk bacteria but then it will be the same chemical burda

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                    read about milk sterilization. yes here at least http://u-sonic.ru/downloads/edm07/stermilk1_rus.pdf
                  8. Barmaleyka April 1 2020 23: 49 New
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                    kindergarten, well, at least study the topic, pasteurized milk is stored for 36 hours
                    sterilized is not milk but garbage
                    Sterilization is a complete release from all types of microorganisms, including bacteria and their spores, fungi, virions, as well as from prion protein ..
                    Milk is sterilized at a temperature above 100 ° C for 20-30 minutes. Such milk is completely sterile and has a long shelf life, but loses a significant part of the beneficial components ..

                    I TRADE MILK leave a dispute
    2. carstorm 11 April 1 2020 17: 40 New
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      in the days of the Union when I was small I was allergic to powdered milk. and in winter only it was on sale. there was no natural. this is my mother telling me that she herself saw how I was covered with a rash from him. you can not convince me. restored milk is also stored little if that.
      1. Mordvin 3 April 1 2020 23: 40 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        there was no natural. this is my mother telling me that she herself saw how I was covered with a rash from him. you can not convince me

        It was. They sold it in a barrel.
  2. TANKISTONE April 3 2020 10: 48 New
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    carstorm 11 (Dmitry) April 1, 2020 10:15
    Hello everyone!
    The author is right. Remember the old posters, which depict the fat capitalists and the haggard, thin WORKERS and PEOPLE (it is clear that allegory). Look at the modern top of capital and everyone else. The picture has changed. All because of separate nutrition - we are divided: someone can afford natural food, most - no.
    I live in Germany since 2003. On the second day of my stay, sitting on the “potty” (sorry for the detail), I almost panicked because of the unusual smell of plastic (you know what I mean?). This is the second day of eating local food! At the end of zero, the Germans, for the sake of experiment, suggested that young people try real food (with taste and smell). Result: the majority noted the "unnaturalness" of the products offered. A certain percentage of subjects commented on how you can “eat”. Only a small percentage of "learned" real food.
    I myself am from Kazakhstan. I know the taste of meat (especially), vegetables and fruits, milk ... We (Dzhezkazgan) had a dairy factory, a poultry farm, a meat factory (hi GDP, which claimed that there was no meat industry in the USSR). On the third day of storage, bottled milk simply started to ferment. A store bird ("running for its own slaughter" - by the definition of the perestroika dermocrats) gave a good tasty broth - BOLLION! And the chickens of tobacco !!!
    In Germany, there are still farms. You can buy eggs and poultry, meat and cheese (more expensive than in the supermarket, and the taste is better), but, separately, all of the above they have for themselves, that is, naturally grown. You will not be sold. Natural production is not profitable, they will not stretch ...
    Meat, vegetables, fruits have no taste or smell. Hydroponic greenhouse cucumbers and tomatoes do not need bees, but there is a crop! But what about heterozygote and homozygote ??? Imagine: you do not sleep with your spouse, but your children are born. It turns out that your spouse is sleeping with someone else, or she is Virgin Mary. But, the Bible does not say anything about the tomato-cucumber Virgin Mary.
    Therefore, recipes such as "like mom" or "grandmother" make sense if NATURAL ingredients are available!
    PS: Take care of yourself!
  • Volodin April 1 2020 10: 31 New
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    17,8 thousand heads of cattle is, of course, good. But even if we assume that they are all milk cows that are not stuffed with chemical additives in the feed and that they
    On average, they give 25 liters of the freshest and environmentally friendly milk per day, then this is not enough even for a half liter of milk per inhabitant of the Khabarovsk Territory per day. If a cow gives 40-70 liters per day, then this is only on artificial additives, as discussed in the article
    1. Andrey VOV April 1 2020 10: 56 New
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      The population of the Khabarovsk Territory is probably somewhere around 2 million in all, not everyone drinks milk, plus do not forget that in addition to the local, there is also imported food ..
      1. astepanov April 1 2020 11: 49 New
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        Quote: Andrey VOV
        probably somewhere around 2 million in all,

        1,35 million people in 2020 - Wikipedia. And the Khabarovsk Territory not only produces itself, but also imports milk, for example, from the EAO. It is not clear to me why Dmitry is minus? He just, unlike the others, has both arguments and figures. And minusovosovshchikov - only "proletarian flair."
        1. NordUral April 2 2020 17: 56 New
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          Arguments! And where are they, I see only words.
      2. Mordvin 3 April 1 2020 23: 44 New
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        Quote: Andrey VOV
        The population of the Khabarovsk Territory is probably somewhere around 2 million in total

        My uncle is from the Khabarovsk Territory. I lost my job. Could not get anywhere.
    2. carstorm 11 April 1 2020 11: 27 New
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      I spoke with a man who claimed that there was no milk) his legs grew from this. and since I am a man whose milk is one of the main consumer products, he answered.
      1. Barmaleyka April 1 2020 11: 43 New
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        then what you consume is not the fact that milk
        1. carstorm 11 April 1 2020 17: 44 New
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          Once again, I know exactly what I consume. Of course this is not a home product. brother sometimes brings homemade but I don’t use it because it didn’t pass the test and I don’t want to pick up something. As for the shelf life of milk, it has been 5 days since the union. I'm talking about such products.
    3. there April 2 2020 11: 11 New
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      So, in 1990 in the RSFSR, there were about 57 million heads of which 20,6 million were cows.
      In Russia, the sample of 2000 is already less than 28 million, of which 12,7 million are cows.
      In 2010, the total number of cattle was 20 million heads, cows - 8,8 million. The average cow is 35% of the total herd.
  • tatra April 1 2020 11: 03 New
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    The enemies of the Communists "the impossible is possible." You and one country can feed the whole world, and countries can fall apart by themselves, and with the reduction of the number of cattle in Russia by 1991 times after 3, and milk yield by almost 2 times, you may have an abundance of natural meat and milk. No need to cowardly conceal the TRUTH, the Russian people have been poisoned by low-quality and fake products with a bunch of chemistry for 30 years.
    1. AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 11: 46 New
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      The scoop simply did not have such surrogation technologies as they were not around the world. But they have already learned to add food pulp to sausage. If the Union existed for another 30 years, it would be exactly the same as in the whole world - substitutes and additives.
      1. Mordvin 3 April 1 2020 23: 46 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        The scoop simply did not have such surrogation technologies as they were not around the world

        You are breaching.
        1. AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 23: 56 New
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          Rumors such went, remember: in a sausage add toilet paper. Toilet paper, of course, was not added, it was already in short supply - food pulp was added as an ingredient in minced meat. Remember soy instead of chocolate in a pastry? And margarine, instead of butter, in a pastry and not only. Are you familiar with concepts such as a combat suit? This was only the beginning, vegetable protein in sausages and other stabilizers with thickeners in meat products would go further - technology did not stand still even in a backward scoop.
          1. Mordvin 3 April 2 2020 00: 02 New
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            remember: add toilet paper to the sausage.

            Bullshit. My mother worked as an accountant, in the production of sausages, there wasn’t
          2. AU Ivanov. April 2 2020 00: 06 New
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            Ostankino, Cherkizovsky, Leningrad meat processing plants put cellulose in full growth. And in Finland, pork skins were purchased for the same purpose: add to the sausage meat, at least at the Leningrad plant.
          3. Mordvin 3 April 2 2020 00: 13 New
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            Ostankino, Cherkizovsky, Leningrad meat processing plants put cellulose in full growth. And in Finland, pork skins were purchased for the same purpose: add to the sausage meat, at least at the Leningrad plant.

            Bullshit. Vaska Stalin bought beer in Ostankino. Trees chopped.
      2. NordUral April 2 2020 18: 01 New
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        Andrei, you write about sausage, and I remembered the doctoral from the Union until the 85th. And compared with the one that we sometimes buy now. So I would like the one with toilet paper, a couple of sandwiches, on a loaf or black, they would also be the ones from the Union.
      3. AU Ivanov. April 2 2020 18: 04 New
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        And you buy a sausage from a different price category, the choice is large, tea is not the Soviet Union. She will be even better Soviet.
      4. NordUral April 2 2020 18: 09 New
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        Ah, Andrew, tasting does not mean that it is more useful. These are tasty, I do not argue, but often they are better not to eat.
        And in general - the author is 100% right.
        Under socialism - to feed the people, under capitalism (and in general, hell knows what is in the yard) - to earn on the people.
      5. AU Ivanov. April 2 2020 18: 13 New
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        We do not have capitalism yet, that’s true. And I still remember how they fed at the Union. Peter and Moscow were fed, and in our shops in Novgorodskaya there was a ball of katy. Not that sausages - a blue chicken was not to buy.
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        Are you talking about the second half of the 80s, Andrey?
      7. AU Ivanov. April 2 2020 19: 12 New
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        About the times from the second half of the 70s. The entire Novgorod region drove goods to Leningrad. Kalininskaya - to Moscow.
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        I will take a word, because I can only operate with facts from my life. And this is Leningrad and the cottage in the Leningrad region.
  • grad2308 April 2 2020 11: 57 New
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    "The scoop simply did not have such surrogation technologies as they did not exist all over the world. But we already learned how to add food pulp to sausage. If the Union existed for another 30 years, it would be exactly the same as in the whole world - substitutes and additives." Comrade AS Ivanov - YOU are so omniscient. The impression that the site is working as a commentator. Let me give an example: now the transshipment base (the bakery does not work) in the city, in the nth area opposite the dairy. So here's to your words about substitutes that in the Soviet Union, you would also come to substitutes YOU ARE NOT RIGHT! Remember, when GOSTs were replaced by TUs and what was introduced for, in fact to reduce the cost of the product - full shelves of counters. (As a small example: technology is its component microwave microwave oven, created in the USSR, tested and not recommended without much need to the public. When it came on sale, answer?). This is not about that, about 5 years ago - working at both enterprises, that the bakery, the dairy (built in the 60s of the last century) were "friends" - a kind of barter exchange (bakery products - milk). So, if we consider the year 2016, when they “threw” NATURAL butter on the counter once a month (they were specially allowed to fall, lose the geometric shape of the package), two plant employees knew about it, taking 1-1,5 kg each into hands ( I am no exception, as a supervisory organization for pressure vessels and the electric power industry). So that people working at the enterprise (and knowing) try not to eat a surrogate. The natural product did not go to the city and the region, it went to Moscow. Like the products of another dairy at the other end of the region, the same thing (in Moscow restaurants). So no need to tell on the site "TALES" !!!!! PS I don’t eat butter and don’t buy, because I don’t believe in quality, nor do I buy melkonditerka (cookies, toasts, etc.)
    1. grad2308 April 2 2020 12: 35 New
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      In addition to the above my words. After 1945, many families tried to get a cow, of course there weren’t enough grazing, the children cut grass into bags. But the state gave the payment to the shepherd, as did the grazing places. But what is INCREDIBLE, but the TRUTH - a bull-producer with a good heredity stood out on a PRIVATE herd for FREE! This is the attitude of the state after the war in order to at least somehow help its people in the postwar years. As well as a gradual decline in product prices.
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        They guarded the cows in turn most often. And the shepherd, if hired, was at the expense of the livestock owners.
  • Altona April 1 2020 11: 16 New
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    Quote: carstorm 11
    This year, peasant farms in the region increased their livestock by 12,1%.

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    A small remark. Everything that Mr. Staver voiced in the article has long been voiced by Melnichenko on the Special channel. Moreover, he, as the head of the agricultural enterprise, said that he received a large order for potatoes from the Khabarovsk Territory, because the Far East has long been living on the Chinese farm and closing the border has led to a shortage of products. Therefore, your comments, Dmitry, do not believe. In my city, for example, there are also local milk producers and the residents of my area immediately rush to the arriving milk barrel. But, but, but, I talked with a person who is inside this sphere. Milk is often collected from a private farmstead, our cows can also be sick with foot and mouth disease, mastitis and other diseases, which means that the value of milk can also be dubious.
    1. carstorm 11 April 1 2020 11: 32 New
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      we were not talking about the quality of technical milk) in the end, no matter what difficulties the producer might have, it's his difficulties. my point is consumer. Well, I drove in for something I have a choice. Seryshevsky Lazovsky Vyazemsky. Grinagro etc. and each has its own line. Total. from various sour cream and other fermented milk of various fat contents to the usual yogurt Amur or Molly. We open the online store of the Samberi network and look. and let them believe it or not. fact will remain a fact. milk is darkness. natural and tasty. for any wallet and any needs. at the same time I completely take away any milkmen there or houses in the village. few people go to their stands. Why do I need sour cream that has been stored for months for obvious reasons and a bunch of types of sour cream for a week's storage, or how much there. small. even by weight there.
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        and a bunch of types of sour cream weekly storage or how much is there. small. even by weight there.

        My grandmother was selling milk. 28 cents each. Per liter.
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    Well, how many dairy herds out of these 17.8 thousand cattle? But even if you take that all. Then we get one cow for 80 inhabitants! Does a cow give a lot of milk? Okay, take our leader in the district 9000 liters per cow. Equating to the union (3000 on average per cow) we get one Soviet cow for 25 people. What abundance of natural milk you are writing about. We have 30 thousand people in a small area, 900 here in the above enterprise another 1.5 thousand for other farmers and private owners. And then questions on milk.
    So do not mix with a shaft of natural milk
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      Well, firstly, read carefully what I wrote. I have no statistics on dairies. secondly, over the years, technology has changed everything very much and there is simply no need for a huge population as before. Again, an Internet to help on this topic. it is a recognized fact
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        If there is no milk then where to get natural dairy products? And the dairy can also make milk out of milk powder. No problem. But this has nothing to do with naturalness and freshness.
    2. Mordvin 3 April 1 2020 23: 51 New
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      We have a 30 population in a small area,

      Name the area.
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        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: dgonni
        We have a 30 population in a small area,

        Name the area.

        Clearly I hear a grudge ... Volod, pyrrhet, hi
        1. Mordvin 3 April 1 2020 23: 57 New
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          Volodya, pyrrhet,

          Good nights. Here I am, what a goner. laughing
        2. Mordvin 3 April 2 2020 00: 18 New
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          Clearly I hear a grudge ... Volod, pyrrhet,

          Hole-holes, and you do not get sick .. Good night.
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            Hole-holes, and you do not get sick ..

            Owl itself. Mutually hi
  • there April 2 2020 11: 04 New
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    Before the reform, in 1990, in the RSFSR there were almost 14 cows per 100 people, in 2000 there were already 9 cows per 100 people. population, and in 2014-2016. - less than 6 cows.
    The number of cows by October 2019 amounted to 7,99 million animals.
    Milk production (millions of tons):
    1945 - 16,6
    1960 - 34,5
    1980 - 46,8
    1990 - 55,7
    2000 - 32,3
    2010 - 31,9

    In 2019, Rosstat recorded in January - November what they produced
    agricultural organizations, farmers and households 29,0 million tons of milk
    According to the forecast of the Ministry of Agriculture of Russia, in 2020 milk production in farms of all categories will amount to 31,61 million tons, which is 0,9% more than in 2019. And soon apple trees will bloom on Mars.
  • ELEZKIY April 1 2020 11: 41 New
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    "and the corresponding number of cows?"
    and his cows don’t give milk, but dairy plants, and milk-containing wells
  • ELEZKIY April 1 2020 11: 31 New
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    "" "is complete nonsense. For example, we have our own milk, it’s just a huge number of all directions and all small storage and natural. And this is DV. Not the best climate, to put it mildly. Dairy plants have grown like dirt. You don’t know what to choose. Which powders to hell and palm? All products with a palm tree now stand on separate display cases with markings and capital letters on stands for milk fat substitutes. "" "
    where do you get milk from? from heaven or what? I live in a village for 48 years. in Soviet times, there was a herd on every meadow. several herds of private in each village yet! Of course milk yields were not fantastic, but natural milk! On our collective farm, 1800 Soviet cows during the “Russian” time were optimized to 800, planted year-round on dry concentrates and stimulants. of course, milk yields have grown, but I, working in this household, will not risk drinking milk, health, frankly, is more expensive. I take my own from the very few remaining private traders. which our local government does not support in any way. there are less of them every year. children of village cows and horses are already considered outlandish. the same local poultry farm. all on "new technologies." chickens are really mutants. I say what I see every day, because I work both on the farm and in the factory, which I sold with the help of the governor, not to my own, but to employees with foreigners. bees are falling from chemistry. all this will not lead to good. otvetka from nature will be
  • Barmaleyka April 1 2020 11: 42 New
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    whole small storage and genuine

    small storage is how much ?! repeat
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      5-7 days. Well, the most common product. I’m different and would not buy for myself.
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        milk is not stored as much if only cottage cheese and cheese and possibly goat milk it is very difficult to ferment
  • ELEZKIY April 1 2020 11: 43 New
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    [all products with a palm tree now stand on separate display cases with markings and capital letters on stands for milk fat substitutes.]
    it’s also written on the fence, and there’s firewood
  • NordUral April 2 2020 17: 54 New
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    Do you have hallucinations, Dmitry? Something in St. Petersburg is not at all true.
  • AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 11: 42 New
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    Do you have imported chickens? And imported pork? What are you carrying?
    1. Million April 1 2020 11: 47 New
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      Do you even comprehend what you read. I’m talking about chain stores! There is no local meat in them, except Miratorg, and is it even local?
      1. AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 12: 07 New
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        Miratorg has far from the worst pork. If you think that the farmer does not use chymeza when fattening pigs, then you are deeply mistaken. My relatives grow piglets to slaughter weight in 4 months. What do you think thanks to what? Already grandmothers in the village of chickens pour hormones that enhance ovulation and get a "village home egg" at the rate of 150 per dozen.
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          the grandmothers in the village of chickens add hormones that enhance ovulation and get a "village home egg" at 150 per dozen.

          80 rubles per dozen.
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            It is with you. We have from 120 rubles / dozen. Homemade chicken 300-400 rub / kg. A liter of homemade milk is 70 rubles or 200 for a three-liter jar.
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      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      Do you have imported chickens?

      Yes, imported.
      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      And imported pork?

      She is the most. From Ukraine.
  • DeusExMachina April 1 2020 10: 29 New
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    The state is ruled by villains. That's the result.
    And capitalism is again: the temperature in apartments is 18 degrees, water is on the verge of technical, bread from fodder.
    Profit is most important!

    Well, no one even said that the capitalist system, as well as the state that exists within its framework, is for everyone. It is "for everyone" from a narrow circle of persons :)
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      Well, no one said
      talked, talked. It was only in the late 80s. We were then lured into capitalism by any means ..
  • Vol4ara April 1 2020 10: 45 New
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    The author does not know what he is writing about
  • astepanov April 1 2020 11: 28 New
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    But I was not too lazy and looked what kind of drugs the author named.
    Today, drugs such as synestrol, dienestrol, diethylstilbestrol, hexestrol and others are widely used. At first glance, the danger of these drugs is relatively arbitrary. Well, they feed or inject an animal with anabolic steroids - so what?
    Firstly, these drugs are completely as one - derivatives of estrogen, and therefore never anabolic steroids, exactly the opposite. In veterinary medicine they are used only in the treatment of animal producers, and only females. You will not find them in either poultry or pork. Further, real anabolics (testosterone derivatives) are REALLY APPLICABLE. But the trick is that they can’t heat up and are almost completely eliminated from a day to a crescent - depending on the composition. But this is not important, but another thing is important: you can eat anabolics (with rare exceptions like turinabol) even in tons - it will not lead to anything, because they are completely and completely destroyed in the digestive tract. That is why the bum of the ass as a colander due to injection. Even more interesting with growth hormone: it not only does not accumulate, it is afraid of even simple shaking, and its life time in the body is a matter of hours. That is why the hypothalamus produces it continuously.
    As for GMOs: friends, are you tired of reading harmful gossip? Southeast Asia and the United States sit tight on GMOs (mainly soybeans), and their life expectancy is longer than ours. We have a strange law: it is impossible to produce GMOs in Russia. But you can import and sell. Tell in whose interests he was dragged? Because of this law, we do not have, for example, our own production of insulin, because insulin is produced worldwide with the help of GMOs, and we only have it packaged.
    My "anti-scientific theory"
    This is not a theory, but at best a very weak hypothesis. Does the author know what the word "theory" means?
    In general, the article is another scarecrow that does not have an evidence base.
    By the way, I am a chemist with more than 40 years of experience, and due to circumstances, I had to deal with hormones on a professional level.
    1. Barmaleyka April 1 2020 11: 50 New
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      Quote: astepanov
      But I was not too lazy and looked what kind of drugs the author named.

      Quote: astepanov
      But this is not important, but another thing is important: you can eat anabolics (with rare exceptions like turinabol) even in tons - it will not lead to anything, because they are completely and completely destroyed in the digestive tract.

      https://www.eg.ru/sport/634656-iz-sportzala-v-bolnicu-pyat-glavnyh-riskov-dlya-jizni-pri-prieme-anabolikov-080601/
      https://otravlenye.ru/polza-i-vred/preparaty/vred-steroidov-7-samyh-opasnyh-sinteticheskih-anabolikov.html
      1. astepanov April 1 2020 12: 20 New
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        Firstly, the opinion of the “academician” Ramzan Kadyrov is not the best source of information. Secondly, your links have nothing to do with the topic of the article, except for the word "anabolic", and what you led them to, I do not understand.
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          And the opinion of the pitching can eat tons of anabolics is this normal?
          In addition, the question is not about the article but about a specific dispute with a specific pitching
          By the way, about Kadyrov’s stupidity, you’ve frozen a rare one; at least read articles
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            Venerable, it was said that anabolics in the body do not accumulate, and not about the benefits or harm to health. And that the majority of testosterone derivatives in the stomach break down into healthy components. Can you read, or where? Do you have any rudimentary ability to analyze information?
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              Well, here's a simple example of taking anabolic steroids - lack of memory
              Quote: astepanov
              Venerable, it was said that anabolics in the body do not accumulate, and not about the benefits or harm to health

              your quote ?!
              Quote: astepanov
              another thing is important: you can eat anabolics (with rare exceptions like turinabol) at least in tons - this will not lead to anything, because they are completely and completely destroyed in the digestive tract.

              namely that they are ABSOLUTELY harmless to the body and not about whether they accumulate or not
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                namely that they are ABSOLUTELY harmless to the body and not about whether they accumulate or not

                That's right. You can eat as many testosterone esters as you like - and absolutely nothing will happen, including you will not get any anabolic effect, because these esters in the digestive tract will break down to fatty acids and other slightly active constituents, quite similar to sunflower oil. Are there any REASONED objections? Come on, lay it out. Just do not refer to the opinion of Ramzan Kadyrov, it is better to use one of the biochemists ...
                1. Barmaleyka April 1 2020 14: 29 New
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                  Quote: astepanov
                  Are there any REASONED objections? Come on, lay it out.

                  a person declaring that anabolics can be consumed in unlimited quantities and without consequences for the body is either inadequate or stupid and uneducated
                  https://sexolog.ks.ua/последствия-бесконтрольного-приема/
                  1. astepanov April 1 2020 14: 52 New
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                    Listen, you are referring to Kadyrov, then to sexologists ... I understand your reading circle. Once again, for especially gifted EG students: when taken by mouth, most anabolics are destroyed completely, and the products of destruction go through the ass or enter the body in the form of absolutely inactive. For them to work, you need a syringe. Is it clear now? This means that if some kind of anabolic stint miraculously gets into the meat, then it will DESTROY in the digestive tract. It seems to me that I explained everything very clearly. In the same way, you can eat cobra venom, and nothing will happen if there are no wounds in the mouth, because in the belly there are proteins (and cobra venoms are proteins and enzymes, which are also proteins) are washed to amino acids. As for pearl type
                    Quote: Barmaleyka
                    either inadequate or stupid and uneducated
                    /, then they can most likely be attributed to your account: I have a chemical department of the university in my luggage, a scientific degree and a great experience in science. I try not to mention this, but you forced me to.
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                      Listen, you’re referring to Kadyrov,

                      I already understood that anabolics influenced you where did I refer to Kadyrov ?!
                      and learn anatomy and physiology
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                      I already understood that anabolics influenced you where did I refer to Kadyrov ?!

                      You do not remember your own links?
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                      and learn anatomy and physiology
                      You would learn to place commas, dear, and then you would give advice. Chatter instead of arguments - and that's all that you have in your bosom?
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                      You do not remember your own links?

                      I remember them well one quote and the caption doesn’t say that this is a link to Kadyrov’s article, the article was written by a completely different person and the opinion of SPORTS doctors
                      you absolutely do not have knowledge on this topic, that is, on the anatomy and physiology of a person, otherwise you would not have written nonsense that uncontrolled and without systemic growth of muscle mass has no consequences for human health
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                      You would learn to place commas

                      is this the last argument?
                      especially for you I repeat, I type blindly ingoda without having time to check the text
                      on the topic there is something to clearly objection or busy in the rocking chair?
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                      otherwise they wouldn’t write nonsense that uncontrolled and without systemic muscle growth does not have consequences for human health
                      Either show where it was written, or apologize and stop trolling. Do you think that I have nothing more to do than read your nonsense and try to convince you of the obvious?
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                      Are you real or fool around ?!
                      Quote: astepanov
                      you can eat anabolic steroids (with rare exceptions like turinabol) at least tons - it will not lead to anything

                      zadolbali your prostate, as I understand it, you are either helmets or trading grub for pitching, but at the same time not a foot about the consequences
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                      Once again, for those gifted intellectually:
                      1) Most anabolic steroids are destroyed when taken by mouth and therefore have no effect on the human body: they do not lead to muscle growth, or the desire to sing, or write stupid posts like yours. And those that do not collapse do not accumulate in the tissues of either humans or animals. The meat of animals that would be fed with anabolic steroids cannot be dangerous to humans. Did it come or not? Or will you again represent the opinion of a sports sex therapist and Kadyrov?
                      2) Where did I write at least a word about muscle growth? What would you lie to?
                      3) What does it have to do with the knowledge of anatomy that you mention all the time? What does it have to do with those discussions - the harmful effects of veterinary drugs that supposedly enter the human body with animal meat?
                      4) Do you really think that animals are fed sports nutritional supplements, as you wrote about this? Are you all right with your head?
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                      Where did I write at least a word about muscle growth? What would you lie to?

                      lured, you wrote that it is possible to eat without restrictions and consequences, ALL the topic is closed, debate with a brow who either does not know how to formulate a thought or does not understand the basics of the topic there is no time and desire
                      Quote: astepanov
                      Do you really think that animals are fed sports supplements, as you wrote about this? Are you all right with your head?

                      MDA pitch is a diagnosis, I wrote somewhere about feeding animals, you not only don’t remember what you wrote yourself you also come up with what others wrote
                      Quote: astepanov
                      What does it have to do with the knowledge of anatomy that you mention all the time?

                      despite the fact that if they knew they would understand what the consequences for the body would be when uncontrolled use of anabolics in unlimited quantities

                      ALL TOPIC IS CLOSED, MAY NOT RESPOND
                    8. astepanov April 2 2020 08: 57 New
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                      Miracle, I have not written a single line about the safety of anabolics. I wrote that when taken by mouth, most of them are destroyed to harmless metabolites. This is clear? Treat your head, venerable intellectual.
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                      well, this is the diagnosis
                      Girl, I’m nearly seventy. Have you met a lot of seventy-year pitching? But, unlike you, I am well versed in chemistry: a profession like that. It seems that you are a blonde.
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                      Girl, I’m nearly seventy.

                      the fact that the boorish grandmother is not educated
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                      Learn to place the commas, the victim of EG, then you will talk about education.
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  • mat-vey April 1 2020 14: 25 New
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    it was that anabolics in the body do not accumulate

    They don’t accumulate, it’s just that the body stops or reduces the production of its hormones .. And recovery does not always happen and not with everyone, let's say so normal .. and the effect on the children's body is not predictable at all.
  • SHURUM -BURUM April 1 2020 13: 16 New
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    The state is ruled by villains
    And there are scientists - scoundrels who invent viruses, and yet some scoundrels drill wells in permafrost and glaciers, reaching out layers of a million years ago and stupidly rejoicing that microbes that are a million, or even more years old have been found in melted ice. That's where the trouble starts on a global scale.
  • Svarog April 1 2020 09: 31 New
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    Here was the idea of ​​fix ... to grow products in Russia without GMOs and other crap .. But like many good ideas, it evaporated .. But we have all the opportunities for this .. and the village can be revived and the birth rate can be raised and eaten there will be normal products .. Solid pluses .. But we went along the path of agricultural holdings ... where the main thing is mass, not quality ..
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      do you really don’t know the laws of the country in which you live?) we generally have GMO production prohibited for 4 years already) Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law banning the cultivation and breeding of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) and products in Russia for with the exception of examinations and scientific research. The law published on the official portal of legal information was adopted by the State Duma on June 24 and approved by the Federation Council on June 29, 2016.
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        do you really don’t know the laws of the country in which you live?) we generally have GMO production prohibition for 4 years already as prohibited) Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law on

        And you obviously don’t know that we have many different laws, but they don’t work for everyone ..
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          Well, drugs are also transported. I do not argue. there will be cunning guys. only this is not mass production. Inaccuracy. The fact is that this is not an idea of ​​a fix, but a very specific law that has been working for several years.
        2. Old partisan April 1 2020 09: 59 New
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          Yeah, and what decrees in May are there for 11 years? run as one.
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            what do the decrees have to do with it? Well, go bring something forbidden. I don’t argue about people who are ready to break the law. counterfeit and smuggling were and will be. it’s just a crime in the first place and secondly an extremely small part among all. and such people live extremely short in business.
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              And do not import something prohibited. We need to share with someone in the government and bring in 1 million tons of industrial palm oil. let them eat already used to.
              And the fact that oncology is higher than the roof so Skvortsova will lie something.
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                But the import of palm oil into Russia is not prohibited by law. And you and everyone else can not eat it - do not buy cheap dairy and chocolate products.
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                What does the palm and the law on the ban on GMOs? once again, any product with a substitute for natural fat is now sold separately. she has her own stands and shop windows. sellers must write in huge letters. I see this in every store I visit. Earlier, everyone had to read the ice cream composition, for example, and now I go to the refrigerator with it and the ice cream with milk fat substitute is in its own and normal in its own. so that everyone reads and decides what to choose.
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        research work.

        So they spend over the whole country.
      3. ELEZKIY April 1 2020 11: 55 New
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        I, dear, I can tell you about cucumbers with tomatoes, (which are like without GMOs), from greenhouse plants, to tell. and what you can do in the toilet with these laws. rather, what leadership makes you do. and how the regulatory authorities "control." but in general you are a happy person. you don’t see, and don’t. calmer life. blessed is he who believes, as they say. only this calm of a well-maintained pigsty. and then - "please come to the slaughter"
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      GMO plants do not produce germinating seeds, every season must be purchased again, no fools are in Monsanta, the reproductive function is turned off, how can hundreds of thousands of tons of seeds be regularly purchased bypassing the law? This is not a drug, a ton of which is not millions of our rubles, and with all the losses, bribes and periods of 15-20 years, it makes sense to drag
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      Solid pluses.
      What are their advantages when they measure life with money?
    4. AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 11: 48 New
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      We do not use GMO technologies, from the word "generally" Firstly - it is forbidden, secondly - technological backwardness.
    5. astepanov April 1 2020 12: 12 New
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      .to grow products in Russia without GMOs and other crap .. But like many good ideas, it evaporated .. But we have all the opportunities for this .. and the village will be able to revive and the birth rate can be increased and it will be possible to eat normal products .. Solid pluses ..

      Better yet, move Eden, there Adam and Eve did not work at all, the loaves themselves grew. Do you understand that there is less and less arable land, and the share of people employed in agriculture is also decreasing? What cannot be fed without fertilizers and pesticides? In the USSR, all this was not enough, and the grain yield barely reached 13 centners per hectare — shamefulness ... would you offer at least some arguments besides good wishes.
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      Nobody will revive the villages - if they work at the CX enterprises, they will only work on a rotational basis and I will build hydroponics greenhouses near regional centers and cities closer to the point of sale in order to reduce logistics costs.
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    Probably there is no person who would not hear about this problem, who would not know about the harm to human health of these inventions.
    There is. I. Because education is profile. GMOs in general for "human health" - to a button! For that matter, wheat is GMO. Genetically modified by selection. Pesticides are dangerous only if applied thoughtlessly. Well, so the knife is dangerous. Antibiotics laughing Without antibiotics, humanity was now in the number of the 18th century, how many infant mortality were there? And from the wounds? And from bytovuhi - stepped on a nail?
    This, by the way, is the answer - where did the "defense mechanisms" go? NO KU-YES! It’s just that earlier it would have died more
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      Genetically modified by selection.

      Do not confuse selection and gene modification when a gene for say thistle is added to wheat seeds, or worse, a spider gene. Such a symbiosis in nature is IMPOSSIBLE. hi
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        The result is the same - a genetic change. Crossbreeding - in nature, it is possible that hybrids are obtained. Moreover, there is an analogue of FULL genetic engineering in nature - horizontal transfer of plasmids for example. It was abruptly in nature - a cell ate a bacterium - and so did the mitochondria that you have in every cell! This is generally an introduction not of a gene, but of the whole organism with its genes into another organism!
        And the danger is the same with selection and genetic engineering - that the body will run away into the wild and crush all the plants around, for example, but this is rare. In your digestive tract, when you digest, it’s that GMOs, that GMOs do not break down to the simplest lipids, amino acids, sugars — but they are the same in all living organisms! From at least one kingdom
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          Gold words. But for some reason it turns out that ignoramuses everywhere prevail numerically, and ignoramuses are aggressive. You write, guided by knowledge, they are emotions and desa, extracted from the yellow press. Remember how in Ukraine they met patients with coronovirus? Here is such an audience, embittered and living in dense prejudices, and we have plenty. Victims of the EG and the zombies of the TV.
      2. AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 12: 21 New
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        You consume foreign genes daily: pigs, potatoes, cereals, fish. In your digestive tract, all these genes break down into components. And you will not become a fish or a hen. If you don’t want to consume someone else’s genetic material, eat human.
  • carstorm 11 April 1 2020 09: 34 New
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    and humanity once knew how to cope with viruses itself?) or maybe remember the average life expectancy of 300 years ago)
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      and humanity once knew how to cope with viruses itself?) or maybe remember the average life expectancy of 300 years ago)

      It’s about balance as always .. if a piglet is simply stuffed with antibiotics and cereals are thoughtlessly irrigated with pesticides, then it’s clear that as a result we have a decrease in the effectiveness of antibiotics, oncology and other diseases ..
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        this is a failure itself. but I'm talking about something else.
        Why is this happening? Why did man, a part of nature, become defenseless before the creation of this very nature? Why did the defense mechanisms laid down by nature in the human body in the process of evolution disappear? Are we the cause of this oddity? Are we in an effort to take from nature everything created the conditions when the usual mutation of the virus, of which there are many daily, has become a deadly reality? What does it mean to become ?!
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          Quote: carstorm 11
          ? Are we the cause of this oddity? Are we in an effort to take from nature everything created the conditions when the usual mutation of the virus, of which there are many daily, has become a deadly reality? What does it mean to become ?!

          Of course we are ... right, a man with his own hands creates problems for himself .. But, the problem is greed all .. only in this. For quality goes to waste, for the sake of profit .. There must be a balance and it is broken. When the head will be not the profit of a narrow group of people, but the health of the population, then there will be positive results .. but this is possible only under socialism ..
          1. carstorm 11 April 1 2020 09: 56 New
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            in 1897, the average life expectancy in Russia was 30,5 years! In 1926 - 42 years! And according to the data for 2016 - 72 years !!! this does not go well with allegations of misbalance. the worse humanity lives the longer? and socialism has nothing to do with it. she grew up regardless of the social system in the world. just grew and that's it.
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              Quote: carstorm 11
              in 1897, the average life expectancy in Russia was 30,5 years! In 1926 - 42 years! And according to the data for 2016 - 72 years !!! this does not go well with allegations of misbalance. the worse humanity lives the longer? and socialism has nothing to do with it. she grew up regardless of the social system in the world. just grew and that's it.

              Socialism is a series of economic and social systems characterized by state and public control over the economy, means of production and distribution of resources ...
              In this definition you will find the answer "where does socialism" .. Do you remember there were GOSTs and the food was much better and tastier than now. When there is no control over the manufacturer, he will do anything for profit.
              Russia was 30,5 years old! In 1926 - 42 years!

              Under the tsar there was a very high infant mortality rate, with the advent of the Communists, they began to struggle with this, which is what the results say ..
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                so socialism was not it was growing. he was gone she is still growing. perhaps the system affects the rate of this growth. even likely. but on the global global scale that I am talking about, let’s say this is a non-determining factor.
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                  Stop cheating people. Life expectancy in Russia has “increased” due to falsification of infant mortality statistics. And the real demography of the Russian / Russian people - monstrous - after 1991, super-mortality amounted to more than 14 million people, and demographic damage - more than 50 million people.
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                    I have no desire to argue with you. count as you like. I'm damn about the average life expectancy for me about the demographic damage. super.
              2. AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 11: 55 New
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                GOSTs are also corrected. The sausage of the 50s was very different from the sausage of the 80s in recipe and taste, any older generation will tell you that. I think that in RI the products were even more natural and tastier than in the Soviet period. Without any GOSTs, but due to lack of technology. This also applies to Soviet products - there were no surrogate technologies 40 years ago. But the USSR used pesticides and mineral fertilizers in full.
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                  Sausage in pre-revolutionary Russia was not considered a very good product for the poor. Those who had money preferred to buy meat. But, when I read the magazine "Patriotic Notes" of the 70s. 19th century, other magazines of the 70-80s, it surprised me that, it turns out, margarine was already being produced at that time. There, more attention was paid to working conditions and their payment at margarine factories in St. Petersburg and the province. So the margarine production was! But Wikipedia and many sites for some reason write that margarine began to be produced in our country only in Soviet times, from the 30s.
              3. AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 12: 16 New
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                Life expectancy grew in all countries, including capitalist ones. These results indicate technological progress and nothing more.
            2. AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 12: 17 New
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              This is called "technological progress."
        2. military_cat April 1 2020 09: 57 New
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          I also read with surprise this paragraph.

          Probably, there were no epidemics of plague and cholera in the good old days, and no one died from smallpox. And people in childhood did not become crippled for life from polio. And only lived in harmony with nature, all diseases were defeated by rubbing with cold water and rosy walked. Some have no idea what they are talking about sometimes.
  • rocket757 April 1 2020 09: 38 New
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    I would like to remind you that each blacksmith of his own health !!! But this is not entirely true, now!
    A lot of things that a person simply cannot control, avoid .....
    In short, if ALL society does not care about their health, the consequences will be not pleasant, or even worse.
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      Quote: rocket757
      In short, if ALL society does not care about their health

      And where to start?
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        Quote: mat-vey

        And where to start?

        As always, with enlightenment!
        Here, just, to all the defenders of men, a flag in their hands! Because you need a systematic approach, organized as it should.
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          Quote: rocket757
          As always, with enlightenment!

          Well, enlightenment is always good, even excellent ... but .. and if you want to? And all around, then all around at the current level of income ..
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            Enlightenment is not for the sake of what then abstruse speech to push. A competent person can build his life in a more organized, balanced way, including in the sphere of eat-eat.
    2. Svarog April 1 2020 09: 45 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      In short, if ALL society does not care about their health, the consequences will be not pleasant, or even worse

      The consequences are already understandable, a lot of diseases have appeared, including oncology .. This is the result of an unbalanced approach to food production and the absence of a state as a regulator and controller of the rules that everyone must follow .. Not until this summer 2019, there was a massive pest of bees as a result, thoughtless irrigation with fields pesticides ..
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        The state, the power, legislative structures of which are supported by the rich, will observe any other interests, except for them, only under the powerful, targeted pressure of the people, the public .... nothing else!
        Conclusion, you want a normal life for yourself and your descendants, rallying ranks and achieve everything ALL TOGETHER!
      2. Andrey VOV April 1 2020 11: 01 New
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        Bees always died, year after year did not fall, just like rabbits ... this season they just made a fuss, but they died completely, as they usually die, they have their own sea bee sores there. \ my father kept the apiary ... the fan was just ... kept 29 beehives ... talked for hours ... and so, around us where the apiary was generally cultivated fields were not within a radius of 30 kilometers .. and they took and half of the families died ... some kind of garbage they had was
  • Doccor18 April 1 2020 09: 47 New
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    I talked once with my great-grandmother, so she told me that they used to eat meat very rarely. It is extremely rare - this is 1-2 times a year. And what kind of people were ...? Not a couple of modern. I’m here on a loose: from 1 ha. grain can be collected 4 tons. And this is 11 kg. per day for the next year. A cow generally needs 3 hectares of land, and gives 20 liters per day, with 1 hectare so generally 7 liters. What's better? 11 kg wheat or 7 l. milk? I would choose the grain. I will not even write about the economy of pig farming, there is generally utopia. So why are we put on meat? So this is beneficial to someone, but certainly not to the people and the land. Honestly speaking, eating meat itself is not without pleasure.
    But the question is serious. Thanks to the author for a good, topical article.
    1. Andrey VOV April 1 2020 11: 02 New
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      Productivity depends on many factors .. and 80 and 100 are harvested, in our last season the average (winter and spring) was 65
      1. Doccor18 April 1 2020 11: 12 New
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        You are right, I took the average. If we talk about good yields, then livestock has no chance of success at all.
  • Mavrikiy April 1 2020 09: 51 New
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    the faster the animal gains weight, the lower the cost of its maintenance. The lower the cost of this meat itself. This means that there are more voiced coins in the farmer’s pocket and all who are near him.
    Mustache like that, but ....... you can’t ruin the farmers! "more voiced coins in the farmer’s pocket and anyone near him." It is necessary to redistribute “voiced coins” between farmers and supermarkets, in fairness. Then the farmer will be able to follow the rules of cultivation. But the main thing is to return the GOST USSR standards for products.
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      Quote: Mavrikiy
      But the main thing is to return the GOST USSR standards for products.

      The revolution was not made so that the letters of the USSR would again appear in GOST.
  • parusnik April 1 2020 09: 59 New
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    And you didn’t notice that the smells of products disappeared ... I remember our dairy store, you go in, it smells of cottage cheese, milk and sour cream, butter, margarine smelled of margarine ... They sold by weight and bottled ... At the market, my head was spinning, it smelled of greens, tomatoes, cucumbers of different varieties, garlic, onions, and it smelled like melons and watermelons, grapes .. In the bakery it smelled of bread, white and gray, we didn’t bake rye in our region, only in the regional center, we had our own sweets of different varieties there was a smell .. I just encountered such a smell not long ago in Khadyzhensk, in a small grocery store .. Each kind of fish smelled in its own way, goby, so, pike perch in a different way ... Goby caught in the sea, smelled of the sea, river, fresh water .. The carp had a special smell .. Autumn, it smelled of hamsa .. Peters will understand they had their joke, smelt ... Although, what am I lying to, in the totalitarian past there was nothing like this, empty shelves, hunger, cold, poverty, cast-iron toys screwed to the floor ... And speaking of today, the market has no smell .. Tomatoes do not smell t, no aroma. Complete sterility. Like in grocery stores ..
    1. Andrey VOV April 1 2020 11: 03 New
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      You may have been in some wrong market))))
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        Clear business .... then only galoshes made .. where did the products come from laughing Now everything is right and the markets and stuff .. laughing
        1. Andrey VOV April 1 2020 11: 35 New
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          in my city you go to the market so it smells as it should))) and meat and milk and greens .. and rotten, because my own meat is quickly that))))
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            Quote: Andrey VOV
            in my city you go to the market so it smells as it should))) and meat and milk and greens .. and rotten, because my own meat is quickly that))))

            And thanks to advanced technology, "keep forever." (I do not need eternal meat. I do not want to live forever. A.O. Bender)
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            Quote: Andrey VOV
            it smells as it should))) and meat and milk and greens .. and rotten, because myosko meat soon is that))))
            Quickly? Now? Here my mother had memories that before, if you bring the chicken, you need to cook it as soon as possible, but now she forgot about the chicken on the loggia ---- and nothing has happened to her ?????? Quite "new"
    2. Van 16 April 1 2020 11: 06 New
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      Oh, how good it was in childhood in the village of my grandmother, a mug of fresh milk, a loaf of bread from the oven, and with honey, the smell is unforgettable))
    3. Doccor18 April 1 2020 11: 21 New
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      What smells are we talking about ... an Azerbaijanian buys apples in a magnet by stock, then he sells two more at the market. The real ones are yelling! People take it. And you say the smell ...
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      Smelt still smells, spoils quickly. Sometimes it’s huge. I don’t know if this was before?
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    Every kilogram of meat is a very specific money put in this pocket.
    And the money laid out from your pocket. The more I live under capitalism, the more I like dogs.
  • Kolin April 1 2020 10: 16 New
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    In agricultural USSR, hormones and antibiotics and various chemistry were widely used.
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      Enough to "switch arrows" to the USSR already. For 30 years we have been living without him. And as the enemies of the Communists compare what they had in the USSR and what they HAVE after its destruction, so honest people and patriots compare the results of the USSR and the catastrophe that happened for the country and people after the destruction of the USSR.
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        All questions to Staver, he began to compare it with the USSR.
    2. AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 11: 59 New
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      Not widely used - not yet able. But they would soon learn. In Soviet poultry farms, hormones stimulating egg production in chickens have already begun to be used. Hormones and antibiotics would soon appear in other branches of animal husbandry.
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        Poultry farming is quite widespread.
  • Andrey VOV April 1 2020 10: 53 New
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    From its very beginnings. Mankind, step by step, goes to its destruction by all means, war, the invention of various means of murder and methods, food, GMOs and so on .... and as for the nutrition of youth. The author is right ... a hamburger, although dog and other things. even if there are normal components, after a while you crawl as it is not known what ... but I can’t without borsch ....
  • Andrey VOV April 1 2020 10: 54 New
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    Quote: Million
    The state is ruled by villains. That's the result.

    This is an absolutely correct remark .. there is not a single sphere where we would have a positive result for an ordinary person, everything is focused on the profit of a narrow group of persons .. by prior agreement ..

    Well, where is it otherwise ???? alas ... this is not even a trend, but a statement
  • Gardamir April 1 2020 11: 18 New
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    Here is an excerpt from what I wrote in 2008.
    Not noticing or pretending that nothing special is happening is stupid and even irresponsible. The planet is taking medicine to destroy humanity. We are microbes for her, a tumor. And either we will grow together in symbiosis, or we will destroy the planet, or it will destroy us. Of the three options, two lead to a standstill. For the past five hundred years, people have been intensively developing science. And imagined themselves to be gods. Meanwhile, we are just bacteria on the planet’s body. We are not easy to saw the bitch on which we sit. A tree stands on the edge of an abyss. From the finished knot even dust will not remain. And at one not-so-wonderful moment, the planet will take the next batch of anti-homobiotics and there will be no trace of humanity.
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      You know from the fall of a large meteorite people will die much more - than from the current disease. You will blame the same person.
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        You will blame the same person.
        I don't blame anyone, I'm just thinking, here is the full text
        https://www.proza.ru/2016/02/21/745
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  • Zaurbek April 1 2020 12: 14 New
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    No need to talk about what you don’t understand .... there is no point in comparing beef and pork from the time of the USSR with today's. Different ideology and different performance. The same thing about plants. Everyone wants everyone to be cheaply fed ..... and that everything would be environmentally friendly. This does not happen. The masses are fed and even overfed .... and this is already an achievement.
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      Exactly what is overfed. Go to any fast food eatery and pay attention to what kind of pizza men order themselves. Eating, as if not in themselves.
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    There are no problems with certified hormones used in animal husbandry - they all decompose in the body of animals even before they are slaughtered.

    The same applies to GMO-modified agricultural plants and animals - their genes are not absorbed by humans.

    The only problem is antibiotics, about which there was an article on VO a few days ago. Antibiotics by origin - a natural protective substance of fungi to attack bacteria. People learned to synthesize it in the 1940s. Since then, there has been a race of new types of antibiotics and bacterial clones. After antibiotics began to be used to combat diseases of farm animals, the development of synthetic antibiotics lagged behind the self-modification of bacteria. At the same time, antibiotics (unlike hormones) do not decompose in meat even after slaughtering an animal.

    The only way out is to replace antibiotics with genomically modified livestock, poultry and fish. Therefore, all opponents of GMOs (primarily State Duma deputies) should be forced to go on a diet from the current livestock production, stuffed with antibiotics, until they are bent from the good old sepsis.
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      So far I have not seen a single Maisky serious scientific work on the dangers of GMOs - everything under the heading “Maybe” “Probably” We think “We think” and OBS.
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        I forgot to add - in addition to the rejection of the use of antibiotics, GMOs also solve the issue of abandoning chemical pesticides, which are responsible for the decline in the ability to bear children in current generations.
    2. Zaurbek April 1 2020 16: 25 New
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      The unproven harm of GMO products is more than compensated by the abundance of chemistry in non-GMO products.

      It is necessary to distinguish the MASS product and NOT the MASS product. There are different profitability and productivity.
  • ELEZKIY April 1 2020 12: 53 New
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    Quote: carstorm 11
    in 1897, the average life expectancy in Russia was 30,5 years! In 1926 - 42 years! And according to the data for 2016 - 72 years !!! this does not go well with allegations of misbalance. the worse humanity lives the longer? and socialism has nothing to do with it. she grew up regardless of the social system in the world. just grew and that's it.

    sorry about these statistics, men do not know who do not reach 60
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      If you smoke 2 packs a day and plump without measure, then you can not reach a fifty dollars.
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        yes, but I'm talking about hard workers, not bukhariks. many do not smoke, but sores after 40-50 grab somewhere
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          And we men do not love ourselves at all. One of my friends froze his legs while hunting, now there are serious problems with the vessels, the second one gained 140 kg - two joints are already artificial. We kill ourselves.
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    A reasonable question arises: why are hormones used if the consequences of their use are obvious? Why does humanity fall into this abyss?


    Greed and thirst for pleasure ...
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    Quote: Barmaleyka
    Milk is sterilized at a temperature above 100 ° C for 20-30 minutes. Such milk is completely sterile and has a long shelf life, but loses a significant part of the beneficial components ..

    I TRADE MILK leave a dispute

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    I don’t argue, but express disagreement / point out inaccuracy, there time is measured in seconds. I’ve written about what is lost, and what - if you want, you can dig around, especially to those who sell this product.
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    And for a long time I like milk purchased from stores more than home milk. And if you see in what conditions an ancient old woman milks a cow and how to keep it, then you won’t be able to look at him for a very long time, there will be an emetic lump up his throat ...