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COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three

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Groups of scientists in different countries continue to study the situation with the spread of coronavirus infection. Virologists, specialists in mathematical statistics, microbiologists - all are trying to identify at least some pattern of distribution of COVID-19 on the planet.


To analyze the situation, maps are built on which territories that have encountered so far the maximum infection rates are represented.

Among other scientists, representatives of Johns Hopkins University presented their map of the distribution of the number of patients with a new type of coronavirus. The card differs from the specialists of this university from others in that it takes into account the specific number of patients - that is, the ratio of citizens with a diagnosis of COVID-19 to the country's population.

In the specific number of infected, the first place is occupied by Spain with a coefficient of 0,00202. In second place, which may seem surprising, is Switzerland. Its coefficient is 0,00189. The surprise may be due to the fact that medical care and disease prevention in Switzerland are considered one of the best not only in Europe but also in the world.

Italy closes the top three with a specific infection rate of COVID-19 - 0,00168.

At the same time, in terms of the percentage of deaths, it is Italy that continues to maintain a sad leadership in the world - 11,4%. For comparison: in Switzerland, the figure is about 2,45%, in Spain - 8,76%, and, for example, in Russia - 0,82%.

COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three


The United States remains the leader in the total number of cases. There are almost 175 thousand confirmed cases of infection. The mortality rate is relatively low compared with the same Italy and Spain - about 1,95%. However, in the United States, the situation is complicated by the fact that the lion's share of cases was detected in New York, and no one can say how the pandemic curve for this city will behave.
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Facebook / Valmont Clinic, Johns Hopkins University
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 31 March 2020 19: 45 New
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    COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three
    according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI and ARI. (I barely bought White, they don’t wash the porches. But I glued the papers on the doors)) I go pollinating myself 2 times. Fuck everyone in the wreck.
    1. The popuas
      The popuas 31 March 2020 19: 51 New
      12
      This morning I read an article that a vaccine against tuberculosis protects against coronavirus .... recourse statistics were provided for West and East Germany, where in West there are many times more people who have become infected with this infection than in East! winked maybe all the same because in Russia there are so few infected request
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 31 March 2020 19: 56 New
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        Quote: Popuas
        This morning I read an article that the vaccine against tuberculosis

        Is there such a thing? I didn’t hear something ... request
        In any case, 10 years ago it wasn’t for sure
        1. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 31 March 2020 20: 00 New
          +4
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Is there such a thing?

          There is no vaccination, there is a pierce test for the presence of sticks.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 31 March 2020 20: 02 New
            -9
            Quote: cherkas.oe
            There is no vaccination, test the pierce for the presence of sticks.

            Yes, he is lying too. The most reliable, fluorography
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 31 March 2020 20: 22 New
              +4
              The most reliable T-spot.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 31 March 2020 20: 24 New
                -1
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                The most reliable T-spot

                I do not know. I handed over a lot of things. Maybe this one. But perke showed that there is no tube
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 31 March 2020 20: 31 New
                  +4
                  This is new, not yet included in the compulsory medical insurance. It costs 5 tr, a blood test is done.
                  1. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 April 1 2020 00: 58 New
                    -1
                    In second place, which may seem surprising, is Switzerland.

                    Why be surprised?
                    Belarus and Switzerland are the only ones in Europe that are not going to fight the coronovirus.
                    So I will give the "specific" value will be maximum. In Switzerland earlier, in Belarus later
            2. cherkas.oe
              cherkas.oe 31 March 2020 20: 26 New
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              Quote: Lipchanin
              Yes, he is lying too.

              Yes, it sometimes lies with weakened immunity and a lack of proteins and fats in food.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 31 March 2020 20: 29 New
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                Quote: cherkas.oe
                Yes, it sometimes lies with weakened immunity and a lack of proteins and fats in food.

                Yes, when he showed that he was not sick, he was delighted. But fluorography showed that there is. Then, in the hospital, the doctor said that he sometimes lies
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 31 March 2020 21: 24 New
                  +3
                  WHO takes data from this site:
                  https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
                  And they differ from what is given in the article. hi
                  1. Albert1988
                    Albert1988 31 March 2020 21: 50 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Alex777
                    WHO takes data from this site:

                    Nevertheless, I dare to suggest that WHO has its own statistical service, and they are unlikely to use the data of any third-party site ...
                    1. Days
                      Days April 1 2020 04: 27 New
                      0
                      This is generally not important, since in any case the source is the Ministry of Health of the countries. And these figures do not speak about the actual spread of the virus.

                      Let's say the United States spent a bunch of testers and revealed a bunch of cases, and the percentage of deaths from detection does not decrease. And if in the USA it is 2%, and in Italy five times more fatal cases are relatively confirmed, then this only means that in Italy there are five times fewer infections detected.

                      Neither the New York health care system, nor the Italian health care system can cope with such an avalanche for a long time, so we can neglect the difference in the level of medicine, which in Italy is much weaker than the United States (and of course weaker than our medicine).
                    2. Alex777
                      Alex777 April 1 2020 11: 45 New
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                      Nevertheless, I dare to suggest that WHO has its own statistical service

                      You are a free person and you can assume anything. bully
                      You can use the search engine, ask ...
                      And WHO takes data from the specified site. He is official for them.
          2. Barmaleyka
            Barmaleyka 31 March 2020 21: 03 New
            +9
            BCG (abbreviated from Bacillus Calmette-Guerin, FR. Bacillus Calmette-Guérin, BCG) is a tuberculosis vaccine prepared from a strain of weakened live bovine tuberculosis bacillus (Mycobacterium bovis), which has practically lost its virulence for humans, being specially grown in an artificial environment .

            BCG is the only tuberculosis vaccine available for 2018 [1]. This vaccine is relatively safe, inexpensive, and requires only one injection. Despite its shortcomings, BCG vaccination in most endemic countries is seen as a lifesaving and important element of standard tuberculosis control measures.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 07: 13 New
              0
              BCG is not the only vaccine and is banned in many countries.
          3. Piramidon
            Piramidon 31 March 2020 21: 16 New
            +2
            Quote: cherkas.oe
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Is there such a thing?

            There is no vaccination, there is a pierce test for the presence of sticks.

            And BCG, isn't it a vaccination?
            1. cherkas.oe
              cherkas.oe 31 March 2020 22: 29 New
              +1
              Quote: Piramidon
              And BCG, isn't it a vaccination?

              For children in early infancy. Prevents from open form tuberculosis of the lungs, bones and other organs. Does not develop immunity. Does not protect against infection by the Koch’s stick itself.
          4. major147
            major147 31 March 2020 22: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: cherkas.oe
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Is there such a thing?

            There is no vaccination, there is a pierce test for the presence of sticks.

            BCG is called. By the way, in the USA there is no tuberculosis, such a climate.
          5. dedusik
            dedusik 31 March 2020 23: 20 New
            +2
            Well, as far as I remember, the first BCG vaccine was given to the newborn within a week, and the second to us, already at school.
          6. UAZ 452
            UAZ 452 April 1 2020 20: 11 New
            0
            BCG? She’s not like 10 years old, she’s a hundred years old at lunch, as they say.
        2. The popuas
          The popuas 31 March 2020 20: 00 New
          +1
          Ask yourself what camp East and West Germany belonged to ... and correlate time ... wink all questions will disappear. hi
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 31 March 2020 20: 04 New
            -7
            And at what ... these camps? belay
            1. The popuas
              The popuas 31 March 2020 20: 09 New
              +4
              And with that .... that the eastern one was attached to the USSR, and the western one, well, you understand .... And in the west this vaccine is optional .... do you understand?
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 31 March 2020 20: 11 New
                -7
                Quote: Popuas
                Do you understand?

                I do not understand.
                I asked, is there such a thing in nature?
                What does the camp have to do with it?
                1. Barmaleyka
                  Barmaleyka 31 March 2020 21: 04 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  I asked, is there such a thing in nature?

                  in Yandex banned ?!
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 31 March 2020 20: 23 New
            0
            They have already denied it.
            1. major147
              major147 31 March 2020 22: 20 New
              +2
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              They have already denied it.

              There is a BCG vaccine. Whether it helps or not is another matter.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 07: 14 New
                +1
                So am I about the same request only from coronovirus it does not help
        3. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 31 March 2020 20: 04 New
          +3
          There is a suggestion. Return to the discussion of the map on May 1.

          All of health!
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 31 March 2020 22: 24 New
            0
            maybe April 1st? will return
        4. The popuas
          The popuas 31 March 2020 20: 08 New
          11
          On the third day after birth they put ... you probably missed bully
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 31 March 2020 20: 14 New
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            Quote: Popuas
            On the third day after birth they put ... you probably missed

            There is no vaccination against tuberculosis !!!!
            Go to any TB clinic and ask.
            Will laugh
            1. Barmaleyka
              Barmaleyka 31 March 2020 21: 05 New
              +9
              Quote: Lipchanin
              There is no vaccination against tuberculosis !!!!
              Go to any TB clinic and ask.
              Will laugh

              Well, before you write nonsense Well, at least in tyrnete check
              BCG (abbreviated from Bacillus Calmette-Guerin, FR. Bacillus Calmette-Guérin, BCG) is a tuberculosis vaccine prepared from a strain of weakened live bovine tuberculosis bacillus (Mycobacterium bovis), which has practically lost its virulence for humans, being specially grown in an artificial environment .

              BCG is the only tuberculosis vaccine available for 2018 [1]. This vaccine is relatively safe, inexpensive, and requires only one injection. Despite its shortcomings, BCG vaccination in most endemic countries is seen as a lifesaving and important element of standard tuberculosis control measures.
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 31 March 2020 20: 25 New
            +4
            Not everyone. Now many refuse, because the tube is more a social disease.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 31 March 2020 20: 31 New
              -1
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              for the tube is more a social disease.

              And there is. The lion's share of cases falls on the zones and on the homeless
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 31 March 2020 20: 36 New
                -1
                Already wrote, an interesting fact - the number of refuseniks is growing in the country, and at the same time, the incidence of tuberculosis is falling. All these data are confirmed by the website of the Ministry of Health.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 31 March 2020 20: 39 New
                  -3
                  Literally 10 years ago, we had a difficult situation on a tube. Now it’s no worse than in the country.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 31 March 2020 20: 50 New
                    +1
                    Where do you have it? In Lipetsk?
          3. Alex_Rarog
            Alex_Rarog 31 March 2020 22: 05 New
            -1
            On the 3rd day after birth they put a scar on her shoulder against smallpox. Dear ashamed!
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 07: 16 New
              0
              Check the info, put BCG.
          4. major147
            major147 April 1 2020 11: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: Popuas
            On the third day after birth they put ...:

            Here I have a second grandson was born on 30.03.2020. Check, unsubscribe!
        5. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 31 March 2020 20: 10 New
          15
          BCG vaccination against tuberculosis in our country is mandatory for all newborns, starting in the early 50's.
          1. The popuas
            The popuas 31 March 2020 20: 13 New
            +7
            Lipchanin looks like a bot, besides stupid repeat
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 31 March 2020 20: 21 New
              -8
              Quote: Popuas
              Lipchanin looks like a bot, besides stupid

              "Nerd," you can’t stick anything but labels.
              I'm talking about what I experienced.
              In 2010, I spent eight and a half months with tuberculosis and saw how much was lying there.
              I’m now a "nebotik" tell me how this can be, they vaccinate everyone, but patients with tuberculosis come from somewhere ??
              1. The popuas
                The popuas 31 March 2020 20: 24 New
                10
                You were answered below ... this is not a panacea, and an article about something else wink nothing about your tuberculosis ... crying
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 31 March 2020 20: 32 New
                  -5
                  Quote: Popuas
                  nothing about your tuberculosis ...

                  So it’s you who started the vaccine about vaccination
              2. Barmaleyka
                Barmaleyka 31 March 2020 21: 07 New
                +6
                Quote: Lipchanin
                In 2010, I spent eight and a half months with tuberculosis and saw how much was lying there.
                I’m now a "nebotik" tell me how this can be, they vaccinate everyone, but patients with tuberculosis come from somewhere ??


                apparently you didn’t learn where or where at all, vaccination is not a guarantee against illness; it makes it possible to get sick in a milder form
              3. Piramidon
                Piramidon 31 March 2020 21: 21 New
                +3
                Quote: Lipchanin
                tell me how it can be, they are vaccinating everyone, but people with tuberculosis come from somewhere?

                You just wrote that vaccination does not exist.
                Lipchanin (Sergey)
                There is no vaccination against tuberculosis !!!!
                Go to any TB clinic and ask.
                Will laugh

                In Google, type three letters - "BCG", faith does not allow?
            2. major147
              major147 31 March 2020 22: 23 New
              +3
              Quote: Popuas
              Lipchanin looks like a bot, besides stupid

              I do not agree. The person has his own opinion on the problem. You can argue, but sculpting labels is not worth it.
          2. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 31 March 2020 20: 15 New
            -8
            Then why do we have so many patients with tuberculosis ????
            I know from my own experience
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 31 March 2020 20: 17 New
              +7
              The effectiveness of BCG is 50-70%, this is not a panacea.
          3. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 31 March 2020 20: 26 New
            0
            Once again, not in this, and not necessarily.
        6. Oleg123219307
          Oleg123219307 31 March 2020 20: 14 New
          +5
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Is there such a thing?

          This refers to BCG
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 31 March 2020 20: 25 New
            +2
            Strange theory. BCG provides immunity from a disease that is not even caused by a virus, but by a bacterium. It is possible that a correlation between vaccination and morbidity exists, but it still does not mean causation.
            1. The popuas
              The popuas 31 March 2020 20: 30 New
              +3
              I do not insist on the truth
            2. Liam
              Liam 31 March 2020 20: 49 New
              -1
              Quote: military_cat
              Strange theory. BCG provides immunity from a disease that is not even caused by a virus, but by a bacterium. It is possible that a correlation between vaccination and morbidity exists, but it still does not mean causation.

              There is no correlation. In the same Germany there are lands that were not in the German Democratic Republic-Schl.-Holstein, Saar, Thuringia, but the incidence is like in the former GDR.
              In other countries where there were no vaccinations (Italy, Spain, France, USA) - there are also huge differences in rates between different regions within the country
              1. Avior
                Avior 31 March 2020 22: 39 New
                +2
                the difference will be between neighboring houses
                a lot of factors plus an element of randomness
                1. Liam
                  Liam 31 March 2020 22: 57 New
                  -2
                  Trends are common, and this is by no means a bj
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 31 March 2020 23: 00 New
                    +1
                    which for example?
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 31 March 2020 23: 07 New
                      -3
                      In response to another post you wrote
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 31 March 2020 23: 15 New
                        +2
                        don't think this explanation
                        the fact that carriers are not detected, but they are, suggests that the number of cases will quickly explode like an avalanche, hospitals will automatically quickly overflow, no matter what diagnosis
                        but this is not.
              2. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 31 March 2020 23: 07 New
                +3
                Thuringia is just part of the former GDR.
                1. rich
                  rich April 1 2020 02: 05 New
                  +5
                  Liam (Liam): .In the same Germany there are lands that were not in the German Democratic Republic-Schl.-Holstein, Saar, Thuringia

                  From now on, Liam, I am your loyal fan: yes laughing
                  I ask you not to stop and continue to pamper the forum with your extensive knowledge. It will be boring without them smile
                  Your admirer, Rich, by mistake, was born in the garrison hospital of the 8th Guards Order of Lenin of the Army of Nora (Weimar) in Thuringia. laughing
            3. Oleg123219307
              Oleg123219307 April 1 2020 01: 37 New
              0
              Quote: military_cat
              Strange theory. BCG provides immunity from a disease that is not even caused by a virus, but by a bacterium. It is possible that a correlation between vaccination and morbidity exists, but it still does not mean causation.

              I’m surprised myself. But there is preliminary data. In fact, so far it’s all a fortune-telling, although what the hell is not joking, it may turn out that after vaccination the virus penetrates into the cells or it develops some type of nonspecific immunity ... Let's wait and listen to the scientists.
          2. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 31 March 2020 20: 26 New
            -1
            Quote: oleg123219307
            This refers to BCG

            Yes, I have not heard about this. I have not heard enough in 8,5 months
            1. Barmaleyka
              Barmaleyka 31 March 2020 21: 08 New
              -1
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Yes, I have not heard about this.

              apparently you are on planet earth just recently laughing
            2. Piramidon
              Piramidon 31 March 2020 21: 26 New
              -1
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Yes, I have not heard about this

              And on Google and Yandex banned?
        7. Mouse
          Mouse 31 March 2020 21: 05 New
          +7
          BCG is called ... I remember in childhood put in the shoulder ... yes
        8. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 31 March 2020 22: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: Popuas
          This morning I read an article that the vaccine against tuberculosis

          Is there such a thing? I didn’t hear something ... request
          In any case, 10 years ago it wasn’t for sure

          BCG was given to everyone in childhood, the so-called ... This is the vaccine against tuberculosis. "BCG vaccination is an effective way to protect children from tuberculosis, and in case of infection, significantly reduce the risk of its complications. Vaccination is carried out according to the National calendar of preventive vaccinations." Http: //minzdrav.gov.by/ru/dlya-belorusskikh-grazhdan/vaktsinatsiya/vaktsinatsiya-protiv-tuberkuleza-btszh-.php
        9. Alex_59
          Alex_59 31 March 2020 22: 22 New
          +3
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Is there such a thing? I didn’t hear something ...

          BCG All Soviet children are placed on the third day of birth in the shoulder and a characteristic scar remains.
          Indeed, there is a version that countries where the damned totalitarian regime corrected all sorts of freedom of citizens stupidly puts this BCG to everyone, the COVID pandemic is less catastrophic. These countries are all countries of the former Warsaw Pact and China. But! This is just a version, not proven by anything.
          For example, South Korea and Thailand are knocked out of this system, where the epidemic did not disperse, and BCG does not seem to be doing there.
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 03 New
        0
        Quote: Popuas
        This morning I read an article that a vaccine against tuberculosis protects against coronavirus ....

        the vaccine from the "tick" was blown away, the office in the Central District Hospital does not work. like this. at least set yourself ...
      3. Linxs
        Linxs 31 March 2020 21: 14 New
        -1
        It remains to see the welfare and where the most people in Germany and it will become clear that there is a manipulation of facts.
        The north of Germany and the east of Germany have never been an industrial, business and developed center. Guess why.
        1. Liam
          Liam 31 March 2020 21: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: LinxS
          It remains to see the welfare and where the most people in Germany and it will become clear that there is a manipulation of facts.
          The north of Germany and the east of Germany have never been an industrial, business and developed center. Guess why.

          People love simple explanations of complex problems. BCG is simple and straightforward.
          The obvious fact that the most afflicted in all countries is the richest, with the most developed economies and, accordingly, with the highest population density and the regions most in contact with the world, is not so "colorful".
          New York, Moscow, Madrid, Lombardy, London, IldeFrance, Bavaria, Upper Renania
          1. Avior
            Avior 31 March 2020 23: 17 New
            +2
            The region most in contact with Wuhan is China itself.
            there each province by population is a country
            but nothing like that
            1. Liam
              Liam 31 March 2020 23: 19 New
              -1
              Therefore quarantined half the country
              1. Avior
                Avior April 1 2020 00: 37 New
                +1
                for sure, even full quarantine was not introduced
                1. Liam
                  Liam April 1 2020 00: 45 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Avior
                  for sure, even full quarantine was not introduced

                  https://www.google.com/amp/s/tass.ru/ekonomika/7721395/amp
                  The whole country was quarantined for a month
      4. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 31 March 2020 21: 17 New
        +3
        The number of cases directly depends on the speed of obtaining the test result and coverage of the population in a certain territory. Someone is sick on their feet, someone does not even have symptoms. Not even a local doctor can get to everyone’s house.
      5. The comment was deleted.
      6. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 April 1 2020 00: 42 New
        0
        statistics reflect the amount of insurance payments in case of infection. Relatives of the deceased are especially interested. Crosses everything from insurance companies to officials smile
      7. YOUR
        YOUR April 1 2020 02: 26 New
        0
        Or maybe all the same because there are no opportunities for control?
    2. svp67
      svp67 31 March 2020 20: 02 New
      +6
      Quote: Dead Day
      we have only ARVI and ARI. (I barely bought White, they don’t wash the porches. But I glued the papers on the doors)) I go pollinating myself 2 times. Fuck everyone in the wreck.

      Write at once: Everything is lost ... We will all die.
      and, for example, in Russia - 0,82%.
      The chief doctor of the Moscow "Kommunarka" said that he was ill KorVi19 ... They begin to raise such a howl and no, what would a person want to recover, they are waiting for the GDP to get sick
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 06 New
        -9
        Quote: svp67
        Write at once: Everything is lost ... We will all die.

        as I write, and you can yell "Slavaputenu" - this will clearly help!
        1. svp67
          svp67 31 March 2020 20: 10 New
          +9
          Quote: Dead Day
          as I write,
          This is not necessary to write here, but in your Criminal Code, in the district administration. What are they doing, who controls the conduct of these works?
          Quote: Dead Day
          and you can yell "Slavaputenu" - this will clearly help!

          Somehow I don’t know Slava Putin, why should I shout to him? He who? Your relative What does he do?
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 27 New
            -9
            Quote: svp67
            Somehow I don’t know Slava Putin, why should I shout to him? He who? Your relative What does he do?

            not yours...
            1. svp67
              svp67 31 March 2020 20: 37 New
              +2
              Quote: Dead Day
              not yours...

              no, definitely not mine ...
      2. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 31 March 2020 21: 18 New
        +2
        None of the Putin is sick. Tests are carried out constantly.
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 31 March 2020 22: 06 New
          0
          Everyone screams Italy, Spain ... lda there is a lot of sickness there, but the mortality rate is terrible wu British. I was horrified by the sick 22141 recovered 151 and the dead 1415 such an attitude of the dead towards the recovered is no longer and close neither in Italy nor in Spain or WHERE
          1. YOUR
            YOUR April 1 2020 04: 57 New
            +1
            But I was horrified that we do not have the ability to determine covid. There is one laboratory for the whole Far East and that one in the provincial Ussuriysk. But!!!!!!!! It is impossible to pass tests. So we don’t have any sick people in the Far East. And in general, how is the diagnosis of coronavirus. In Russia there are only three laboratories and only a preliminary diagnosis is made there, if there is a suspicion of a positive test, then the biomaterials are sent to Novosibirsk, to the Virology Center "Vector" until 24.03.2020/24.03.2020/XNUMX. On March XNUMX, XNUMX, a specially equipped reference center appeared on the basis of the Federal Anti-Plague Center of Rospotrebnadzor in Moscow. Made a distribution of counties. All Siberia and the Far East to Novosibirsk, all Europe to Moscow.
            Here comes such a small number of cases. And that we have insurance medicine, as insurers say, it will be the most fashionable cause of death now - heart failure. Without an autopsy.

            But we help everyone, a helmet for everyone, but what about RUSSIA ??????????????????
        2. Hypatius
          Hypatius 31 March 2020 23: 26 New
          0
          Udmurt disappeared somewhere. Insiders say it’s completely over.
    3. military_cat
      military_cat 31 March 2020 20: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: Dead Day
      fuck everyone in paradise

      Well, on TV they explained that it was all fiction and escalation of hysteria. So they don’t even get hysterical.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 08 New
        0
        Quote: military_cat
        So they don’t even get hysterical.

        I agree, they won’t hurt at all. for svp67 I can go out into the porch and shoot all the shit on the camera.
        1. svp67
          svp67 31 March 2020 20: 40 New
          +6
          Quote: Dead Day
          I agree, they won’t hurt at all. for svp67 I can go out into the porch and shoot all the shit on the camera.

          Thank you ... You know, if you like living in it, then who will help you? This is not here to cry and have to sting ...
      2. Blacksmith 55
        Blacksmith 55 31 March 2020 20: 30 New
        +8
        This contagion spread around the world so quickly thanks to the modern development of tourism.
        Literally a few hours are needed in order to fly a half of the world.
        I think the tourism industry will stall for several years, and then ....., human memory is short, everything will return to normal.
        However, politicians need to draw conclusions.
        Another example: in the last couple of decades, many countries of the world have moved production to China, now it turns out that neither Europe nor America is able to quickly establish the production of the same masks.
        They still came mainly from China. From this it follows that we need to produce more at home, and not rely on "partners".
        These partners think primarily about themselves.
    4. mat-vey
      mat-vey 31 March 2020 20: 06 New
      +4
      Quote: Dead Day
      Fuck everyone in the wreck.

      Well, so the emergency has not been announced, where officially to take the funds? Or do you think that the bureaucrats calling for self-isolation will go to self-sacrifice?
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 25 New
        0
        Quote: mat-vey
        Well, so the emergency has not been announced, where officially to take the funds? Or do you think that the bureaucrats calling for self-isolation will go to self-sacrifice?

        yes, understandably .. it’s easier to stick the leaflet with the promise 2 times a day to “do the processing” and not to do nichrome.
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 31 March 2020 20: 29 New
          +3
          Quote: Dead Day
          and do not do nichrome.

          Well, you may be asked for your “Whiteness” - what is so little and not regularly processed. Even fine if you have any questions.
    5. Tusv
      Tusv 31 March 2020 20: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: Dead Day
      "White" barely bought

      So long ago "White" deficit. Even before someone ate someone and sneezed for the first time. And in bags, about 7 years ago, the last time I saw it. It is not profitable to trade in pure whiteness. Here to add a thickener, flavoring and price tag 4 times you can bend
      1. svd-xnumx
        svd-xnumx 31 March 2020 20: 23 New
        0
        Drug addicts are buying up "white" with matches, I will not voice the rest of the "indigents" so that they would not be accused of distribution.
        1. Vadim02rus
          Vadim02rus 31 March 2020 20: 57 New
          0
          Quote: svd-xnumx
          Drug addicts are buying up "white" with matches, I will not voice the rest of the "indigents" so that they would not be accused of distribution.

          Crocodiles
          And gasoline because of them dear)
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: Tusv
        So long ago "White" deficit.

        today in "5" bought two per kg.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 31 March 2020 20: 35 New
          0
          Quote: Dead Day
          today in "5" bought two per kg.

          2 kg in one hand? Comrades, he is stealing our "White" fellow Just kidding
          Count it, went into the magnet for soap and barely squeezed between the containers. They have a warehouse there
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: Tusv
            2 kg in one hand? Comrades, he is stealing our "White"

            belay burnt down ... so I process one entrance ... is there a discount? "magnets" are not grocery-locked. in general, blinds are everywhere in the city, we observe the regime of "silence", the store is not open in the basement. everything from dumplings to insoles. but only "cashless", a girl of about 65 at the counter, appreciates it once-sick-no, everyone knows the yard-well. on trust. fraught with, but all with understanding (please treat with understanding (C)) no ... in masks, gloves (so as not to infect her)
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 31 March 2020 20: 42 New
              +2
              Quote: Dead Day
              burnt down ... so I process one entrance ... is there a discount?

              "Repent Ivanovich, you will get a discount" (c) Bulgakov.
              Honor and praise for handling the porch. Sorry not mine
              1. Grandfather
                Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 36 New
                0
                Quote: Tusv
                "Repent Ivanovich, you will get a discount" (c) Bulgako

                drinks
          2. rich
            rich April 1 2020 03: 21 New
            +1
            Tusv (Vladimir):Count it, went into the magnet for soap and barely squeezed between the containers

            It’s right - you can’t squeeze without soap wink
    6. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 31 March 2020 20: 11 New
      +5
      Quote: Dead Day
      according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI and ARI. (I barely bought White, they don’t wash the porches. But I glued the papers on the doors)) I go pollinating myself 2 times. Fuck everyone in the wreck.

      Twenty minutes ago I came from a pharmacy, sellers without masks, without gloves (the owner did not buy). There is no wide bandage, only gauze wipes available des. no drugs
      there is no paracetamol, etc. Pharmacy "April" Krasnodar Territory.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 31 New
        +4
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Twenty minutes ago I came from a pharmacy, sellers without masks, without gloves (the owner did not buy). There is no wide bandage, only gauze wipes available des. no drugs
        there is no paracetamol, etc. Pharmacy "April" Krasnodar Territory.
        Reply

        well and that’s it .. you are a traitor and a prowler, right now you "svp67" slaps without trial ...
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 31 March 2020 20: 46 New
        +5
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Twenty minutes ago I came from a pharmacy, sellers without masks, without gloves (the owner did not buy). There is no wide bandage, only gauze wipes available des. no drugs
        there is no paracetamol, etc. Pharmacy "April" Krasnodar Territory.

        Today I went to the pharmacy, and there are masks there (and everything, in principle, is), but 40 rubles each! And the effectiveness of this mask is curious. More less effective mask-respirators "class" FFP2 (12 MPC) up to 94%. Why am I doing this? And to the fact that to whom - war, and to whom - mother is dear. request
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 31 March 2020 20: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: Tank Hard
          Today I went to the pharmacy, and there are masks there (and everything, in principle, is), but 40 rubles each! And the effectiveness of this mask is curious. More less effective mask-respirators "class" FFP2 (12 MPC) up to 94%. Why am I doing this? And to the fact that to whom - war, and to whom - mother is dear.

          And before all this, the masks were 5 p. Capitalism however. I'm more interested in how many unemployed will appear when it all ends.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 31 March 2020 20: 52 New
            +3
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            And before all this, the masks were 5 p. Capitalism however

            Someone earns the hard way. repeat
          2. Grandfather
            Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 39 New
            0
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            I'm more interested in how many unemployed will appear when it all ends.

            why do you want it ? are you recruiting? laughing
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 31 March 2020 22: 26 New
              0
              Quote: Dead Day
              why do you want it ? are you recruiting?

              I do not want riots.
        2. Grandfather
          Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 55 New
          0
          Quote: Tank Hard
          Today I went to the pharmacy, and there are masks there (and everything, in principle, is), but 40 rubles each!

          belay like taxi drivers ...
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 31 March 2020 20: 57 New
            +2
            Quote: Dead Day
            like taxi drivers ...

            I still remember the Gorbachev era and taxi drivers for 15 rubles a bottle of vodka. wink
            1. Grandfather
              Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 19 New
              0
              Quote: Tank Hard
              Quote: Dead Day
              like taxi drivers ...

              I still remember the Gorbachev era and taxi drivers for 15 rubles a bottle of vodka. wink

              yes ... right now a hundred rubles ...
        3. Vadim02rus
          Vadim02rus 31 March 2020 21: 11 New
          0
          FFP2 "class" respirators are less effective

          1500 TNG in Astana.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 31 March 2020 21: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: Vadim02rus
            1500 TNG in Astana

            About a month ago, they were lying, gathering dust in a store of “specialists” for 19 rubles (I don’t remember exactly) for a piece. Now it’s empty.
      3. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 31 March 2020 22: 24 New
        +2
        Magnit employees work in the hall and at the checkout without masks and gloves. Daps on the roads without masks. This is normal. They are so tenacious, like a virus themselves
      4. Harry.km
        Harry.km 31 March 2020 23: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Twenty minutes ago I came from a pharmacy, sellers without masks, without gloves (the owner did not buy). There is no wide bandage, only gauze wipes available des. no drugs
        there is no paracetamol, etc.

        Quote: Dead Day

        well and that’s it .. you are a traitor and a prowler, right now you "svp67" slaps without trial ...


        Nah ... Now it's a fake, and criminal liability is laid for it ...
    7. Svarog
      Svarog 31 March 2020 20: 27 New
      -3
      Quote: Dead Day
      COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three
      according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI and ARI. (I barely bought White, they don’t wash the porches. But I glued the papers on the doors)) I go pollinating myself 2 times. Fuck everyone in the wreck.

      Indeed ... all countries are in an epidemic, but according to the map, everything is normal ... a couple of visiting Africans fell ill ..
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 31 March 2020 20: 50 New
        +1
        and judging by the map
        from tyrnet,
        It is interesting to observe how the Russian Federation makes excuses to civilized humanity, why we have so few cases. They promise that there will be more, much more, even famous people will get sick in the near future.

        But Belarus, the existence of which progressive humanity does not know on the map, in general scored everything. As they diagnosed “acute respiratory infections” for colds, they put it ...
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 56 New
        -1
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Dead Day
        COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three
        according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI and ARI. (I barely bought White, they don’t wash the porches. But I glued the papers on the doors)) I go pollinating myself 2 times. Fuck everyone in the wreck.

        Indeed ... all countries are in an epidemic, but according to the map, everything is normal ... a couple of visiting Africans fell ill ..

        and that’s because they said hello to the monkeys at the zoo ... well, like kindred ...
    8. Grandfather
      Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 13 New
      0
      Quote: Dead Day
      COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three
      according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI and ARI. (I barely bought White, they don’t wash the porches. But I glued the papers on the doors)) I go pollinating myself 2 times. Fuck everyone in the wreck.

      and yes, before the Doctors, I take off my hat, and the scalp, and in general ... Doctors are Heroes. no options. ALL ! without nations and borders! just accept Respect! love
    9. Maz
      Maz 31 March 2020 22: 20 New
      +2
      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR1gXNyyQSLNytX_iY5k2R31uVi3T6-R9IZScGp3opkgJASrrxXCbsevE80 в сша уже 180 000 зараженных и 3400 умерших - ссылка очень добротная, отслеживает ситуацию в реальном времени более чем сотне странах мира. Рекомендую.
    10. Observer2014
      Observer2014 31 March 2020 22: 25 New
      -4
      Quote: Dead Day
      COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three
      according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI and ARI. (I barely bought White, they don’t wash the porches. But I glued the papers on the doors)) I go pollinating myself 2 times. Fuck everyone in the wreck.

      yes good I'm already writing openly arrest me! On the next branch.wassat Tomorrow when I try to go to work. For my superiors this is apparently not fool And the enemies. And I ask you to arrest me and my colleagues. And save me by arrest from these (there are no such words) Details on the next branch. "Reporter" If they don’t arrest him tomorrow yes good . In the color of the started quarantine of 18 zero zero across the Krasnodar Territory. I will continue to inform until the victory over the virus. How did we defeat it. bully hiWell, or until I die of this muck.
      p / s I really do not want to infect my loved ones. But you do not want me to fall upon the guilty in my last fight on the guilty? wink am
    11. Michael67
      Michael67 April 1 2020 04: 20 New
      +1
      Grandfather
      "according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI and acute respiratory infections. (I hardly bought White, they don’t wash the porches. But I paste the papers on the door)) I go pollinate myself 2 times.

      Sevastopol was also sprayed with water in the streets (regular irrigation machines), and men in special coats and masks with spray guns walked and watered at the porches. There was no smell.
      The alcohol itself spread 70%. From the pulik my hands. Face too. And gets inside. Necessary + pleasant.
    12. smart ass
      smart ass April 1 2020 05: 36 New
      0
      Where in Russia will people become infected with a coronovirus if there are no freely available test systems?
    13. den3080
      den3080 April 1 2020 09: 43 New
      0
      I look at this fuss of near-medical institutions and associations, on the one hand, as a monkey and glasses from Krylov’s fable, and on the other hand, as attempts to whitewash the “flagship” western states.
      They have San Marino has now become the leader in specific mortality, Switzerland in 2nd place. These exercises will end in some Gabon + Gambia + Rwanda, as the first three.
      It is necessary to justify.

      And from the 3rd side, in my opinion: the small number of infected in some countries reflects the extent of testing the population more than the real picture of the spread of the virus “on the territory”.
      The number of people tested, all speaking heads from different countries (from all), are not stubbornly called. In Russia they said a couple of times and also fell silent.
      Moreover, I have heard mutually exclusive recommendations for testing for coronavirus. Some say: testing is carried out only for those who do not have symptoms of SARS. Others broadcast: at the first symptoms of acute respiratory viral infections, call, contact, come, test.
      Both are officially announced in the news.
      What to do?
      If a person has no symptoms and he went to be tested (just in case): he violated ... either quarantine, or self-isolation, stood in the queue, passed ... and with a high probability he took the coronavirus home.
      And if there are symptoms? I called, called, someday they will come for analysis and in the same way they will most likely bring a “gift” to a person and his family.
      Once again I ask: What to do ??
  2. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 31 March 2020 19: 53 New
    +4
    Where the courtyard is, there are sores, everything is simple.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Where the courtyard is, there are sores, everything is simple.

      in our childhood. It was upbringing. cuffs from any passerby ... result: respect for elders.
  3. Operator
    Operator 31 March 2020 19: 55 New
    +3
    In the United States, due to the relatively small number of tests, the number of deaths from the coronavirus itself is so far only counted in New York. In other cities and states, the deceased (especially not hospitalized) are written off according to local tradition to the undisclosed reporting position of ARVI (including even for influenza).
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 31 March 2020 19: 58 New
      +3
      Obviously not so
      More than 626 thousand tests were done in the USA. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved a rapid coronavirus test, which can be obtained in 45 minutes. According to President Donald Trump, it was mass testing that led the country to come first in the number of cases of Covid-19 infection detected, where the number of patients exceeded 100 thousand people.
      1. Operator
        Operator 31 March 2020 20: 08 New
        +3
        In Russia, as of yesterday, +600 thousand tests were done, but our population is two and a half times smaller and there is no such mess as in the USA, where quarantine is not even declared, and the population of New York and other megacities is scattered intensively throughout country.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 31 March 2020 20: 16 New
          0
          In Russia, quarantine is not declared, in the USA quarantines are declared by some states, but there is no nationwide
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova April 1 2020 07: 02 New
            +1
            already announced, in the Krasnodar Territory declared karatntin
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 31 March 2020 21: 08 New
          +1
          Quote: Operator
          In Russia, as of yesterday, +600 thousand tests were done

          Well, they obliged us to undergo a test for coronavirus. There are 3 diagnostic companies to choose from. Prices from 600 pe to 2 thousand wooden. Do not care. The company pays. Duration, from one day to three. Out of one and a half thousand workers, only one got through. They put a cotton bud in his nose and drove home. Is this an order? wassat
          Pancake. Have you seen how car sharing is running the show? The heel arrives, sticks the gut into the tank and leaves.
          Why they don’t do that. Gather cotton buds from the area? Fucking problem.
          Assign the menderiders, they know how
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 45 New
            -1
            Quote: Tusv
            They put a cotton bud in his nose and drove home. Is this an order?

            yes .... it was somewhere 52 years ago ... I accidentally wanted to write, and I went into the toilet in my group in the kindergarten ... and there ... Elvira Nikolaevna ... in a raskoryak ... glass wand with cotton wool, myself .... my world has changed ...
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 31 March 2020 20: 11 New
        +2
        Naturally. No healthy - there are unexplored.
    2. GUSAR
      GUSAR 31 March 2020 20: 15 New
      +2
      And in Italy, on the contrary, all the dead are recorded from the crown, and it doesn’t matter what you have there. They have already defeated oncology in Italy, cardiovascular and other things, right?
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 31 March 2020 20: 22 New
        -1
        Worldwide, the growth of heart attacks and strokes. The coronovirus is also to blame, or rather the panic about it.
        1. Demon_is_ada
          Demon_is_ada 31 March 2020 21: 52 New
          +3
          Then a question arose ... let's say the core was infected with covid19, as a result of general intoxication, a heart attack and that ... question, where will we write? In fact, death from heart failure, but the cause of the virus, by the way, officially it is the same as SARS ...
          Well, about the sad ... for three days I explained to my wife the rules, techniques, tactics in the infected area, I decided to check how I learned ... crying
          She doesn’t understand at all (doesn’t understand, namely, it’s unreasonable) that absolutely everyone and everyone should be considered infected ... periodically gives out - well, he (she) does not get sick, determines by eye better than any advanced bio-laboratory wassat
          He believes in a mythical someone who doesn’t put the infected person behind the counter, doesn’t let him out ... I got the impression that I was in the Middle Ages hi Humans do not perceive reality at all, if someone applies something more lethal, then in six months we will cease to exist as a species ... but what, cheap and cheerful
          And she’s quite smart at me, I watched the crowd generally frostbitten
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 31 March 2020 20: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Operator
      In the United States, due to the relatively small number of tests, the number of deaths from the coronavirus itself is so far only counted in New York.

      Nothing like this. On the Hopkins website everything is detailed. But only in the States and Canada
      1. Operator
        Operator 31 March 2020 20: 27 New
        0
        Most of the numbers on the Hopkins website are calculated, not accounting.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 31 March 2020 20: 50 New
          0
          In my opinion there are dumb statistics
          1. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice April 1 2020 08: 47 New
            0
            The big picture:
            https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw
    4. Grandfather
      Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Operator
      In the United States, due to the relatively small number of tests, the number of deaths from the coronavirus itself is so far only counted in New York. In other cities and states, the deceased (especially not hospitalized) are written off according to local tradition to the undisclosed reporting position of ARVI (including even for influenza).

      when black people are shot on the streets, nobody cares about viruses.
    5. smart ass
      smart ass April 1 2020 08: 36 New
      -1
      Just like in Russia?
  4. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 31 March 2020 19: 57 New
    0
    The surprise may be due to the fact that medical care and disease prevention in Switzerland are considered one of the best not only in Europe but also in the world.

    So somewhere we looked at something
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Lipchanin
      So somewhere we looked at something

      about ******* how is it? banned again, such as Nastya ... our Virgin Immaculate.
  5. knn54
    knn54 31 March 2020 20: 02 New
    +4
    It is interesting to know the average age of the deceased. In Italy, for example, 79,5 years.
  6. Fishery
    Fishery 31 March 2020 20: 12 New
    +1
    this is because they were not vaccinated against tuberculosis in childhood))) there is a new theory)
  7. GUSAR
    GUSAR 31 March 2020 20: 13 New
    +8
    That's what is interesting to me. Just do not immediately "already wrote," "look for it yourself," and so on. Our Far East. Who is from there, just tell us. When all this bootleg started in China in January, I immediately had the first thought: now the Chinese and ours will drag her to our Far East. But silence, well, right now no one was infected (then). Although I heard from the locals, but what is called snatches, that already from November to February there was a wave of SARS and flu. And no one attached any special significance at all. Just what do you say?
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 34 New
      +3
      Quote: GUSAR
      Just what do you say?

      as doctors ..ORVI, ARI, and just "sneeze" ...
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 31 March 2020 20: 34 New
      +7
      Quote: GUSAR
      Just what do you say?

      My opinion is that everything started at all with us .. in 2019, somewhere at the end of October .. in December I personally fell ill, very hard .. all the symptoms indicate coronavirus .. and a lot of people say that in November-December seriously ill .. but since we are not worried about the analysis and everything ARVI, we simply did not pay attention to it, unlike the Chinese ..
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 31 March 2020 20: 48 New
        +5
        ,,,may be. In the fall, quarantine schools were closed.
        The epidemic rise of viral diseases began in the Russian Federation: schools in Krasnoyarsk, Rostov-on-Don, Orenburg, Samara regions are closing down due to an outbreak of community-acquired pneumonia.
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather 31 March 2020 20: 50 New
        +3
        Quote: Svarog

        My opinion is that everything started at all with us .. in 2019, somewhere at the end of October .. in December, he personally fell ill, very hard .. all the symptoms indicate coronavirus .. and a lot of people say that in November-December seriously ill ..

        The Urals, the same garbage, was very seriously ill, there was no similar disease, but it didn’t infect anyone in the family, the contacts were at a minimum, and it was "breaking" not for the children, everything was upset. the “press” muscles were especially ill, he moved on his “legs”, he worked in a mask, there was no temperature, weakness, sweat, it was very hard, but he survived.
        1. GUSAR
          GUSAR 31 March 2020 21: 08 New
          +3
          Father (58 years old) was sick in mid-February, coughing for 3 days, and sweating like a jock in training, 2 more days weakness, and then, as a young man, interestingly, his grandmother (his mother 78 years old) visited and then after 2 weeks snot and throat, no fever and that's it! So think here ...
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 24 New
            +1
            Quote: GUSAR
            3 days, the temperature is coughing, and sweating is like that of a muscled man in training, another 2 days is weakness, and then as a young one, interestingly, my grandmother (his mother is 78 years old) visited and then weeks later

            It looks like my sore. Only the temperature was not. Also 57 if that.
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 31 March 2020 21: 04 New
        -3
        “It all started with us” - the Coronovirus of the brain, perhaps.
      4. Demon_is_ada
        Demon_is_ada 31 March 2020 22: 06 New
        +3
        We have the same in Voronezh since late autumn, throat, intestinal upsets, coughing hurt everyone I know, I was ill easily ... 2 weeks ago I picked up the same shnyag again, my wife gave me ... so far, though it’s also bronchitis, Now the wife was easily ill. I have the same symptoms, given that the corona mutates easily or the immunity is not stable, it can very well be. And coronavirus is ARVI, and there are no laboratories that we can do analysis and determine the strain hi
      5. smart ass
        smart ass April 1 2020 08: 37 New
        0
        How can Russia be infected if there are no test systems in the public domain?
    3. Vadim02rus
      Vadim02rus 31 March 2020 21: 00 New
      +3
      Still from Africa, silence. That's where, in theory, there should be a "nursery".
      1. GUSAR
        GUSAR 31 March 2020 21: 14 New
        +7
        There is still such a wonderful country of Yemen, well, just a branch of paradise on earth. So on the map of this virus there are 0 (zero) cases! Maybe they just do not care ...
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: GUSAR
          ! Maybe they just do not care ...

          duck war ... what diseases are there ...
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Vadim02rus
        Still from Africa, silence. That's where, in theory, there should be a "nursery".

        with a fig? if it’s “airborne drip”, then it’s definitely not in Africa .... you yourself will dry there before you sneeze ...
  8. Avior
    Avior 31 March 2020 21: 01 New
    +1
    read about the relationship of vaccinations against tuberculosis and the level of disease and mortality
    the farther the more justified
    1. Liam
      Liam 31 March 2020 21: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: Avior
      read about the relationship of vaccinations against tuberculosis and the level of disease and mortality
      the farther the more justified

      It turns out Wuhan is the only city in China in which BCG vaccinations were not done
      1. Avior
        Avior 31 March 2020 21: 10 New
        +1
        no, there is normal statistics, the mortality rate is relatively low
        Another thing is that they began to fight the spread of late
        1. Liam
          Liam 31 March 2020 21: 19 New
          0
          In Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and so on, the TB infection rate and mortality from the virus are higher than in Wuhan where was BCG?
          1. Avior
            Avior 31 March 2020 21: 30 New
            0
            Wuhan was the first, really no diagnosis, no treatment, so the incidence rate is not an example.
            1. Liam
              Liam 31 March 2020 21: 35 New
              0
              That is, for three months people were infected, sick and died by tens of thousands and no one counted them until the end of January, but you trust their statistics. During these 3 months before quarantine, how many Wuhan people walked around China and how many other Chinese people visited Wuhan and where everyone disappeared from the statistics.
              1. Avior
                Avior 31 March 2020 21: 38 New
                +1
                that is, the example of Wuhan in principle can not be used to analyze the incidence
                1. Liam
                  Liam 31 March 2020 21: 41 New
                  +2
                  That's it. And then what is the theory about BCG based on?. On the GDR / Germany?
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 31 March 2020 21: 57 New
                    0
                    on general statistics
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 31 March 2020 22: 51 New
                      0
                      General statistics say that at present only rich countries that have the opportunity to test and spend billions on treating patients provide some reasonable numbers. In poor countries (including post-Soviet) there are no such opportunities, so there are openwork statistics there.
                      Of the rich countries, the best so far are the South Caucasus, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, which unites proximity to China and, therefore, were subjected to (in contrast to Europe and the USA) “attacks” of the previous Chinese epidemics-sars, bird and other flu. Therefore, they have experience and reacted immediately.
                      In Europe and the United States, the richest regions of countries with the most developed economies, the highest population density and the most frequent contacts with the world are exposed to intense infection. This also applies to Germany. Postgdrovsk and northern lands are the poorest in Germany and the population density is lower.
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 31 March 2020 23: 07 New
                        +2
                        China itself did not immediately respond. Despite the experience.
                        It is simply impossible to write off the absence of tests, because if the sick people are not fixed for the most part, then this is an avalanche-like increase in the number of patients, the presence of the disease and carriers does not depend on the tests
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 31 March 2020 23: 14 New
                        -3
                        In China, this is a systemic problem characteristic of authoritarian regimes. I could react quickly, these epidemics did not repeat every few years. They constantly hide dust under the carpet until the situation explodes. In the past, only the region was infected, this time the virus turned out to be very light-transmitting and infected the whole planet .
                        But it happens like an avalanche. Miracles do not happen. And in poor countries, millions will die. Most of the truth will not indicate this diagnosis.
                      3. Avior
                        Avior April 1 2020 00: 41 New
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                        as long as the diagnosis is not indicated, hospitals will be overcrowded automatically, if in reality the scale is much higher than recorded.
                        the problem is not in what form it is sick, the problem is that it infects others
                      4. Liam
                        Liam April 1 2020 00: 47 New
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                        And who has access to Chinese hospitals? Many reports from there were seen as from Europe, for example. All the data is exclusively Chinese. No wonder censorship has been introduced for so many years, including on the Internet.
                      5. Avior
                        Avior April 1 2020 00: 51 New
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                        that is, there is no evidence that China is massively hiding the incidence and mortality rate?
                        Clear
                      6. Liam
                        Liam April 1 2020 00: 57 New
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                        )))
                        Secret report of the Politburo of the CPC Central Committee?
                        https://m.hightech.plus/2020/02/12/realnoe-chislo-zarazhennih-koronavirusom-v-kitae-v-19-raz-bolshe
                      7. Avior
                        Avior April 1 2020 07: 08 New
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                        You yourself wrote above that there is no real information from China
  • Grandfather
    Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 53 New
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    Quote: Avior
    Han was the first, really no diagnosis, no treatment, so the incidence rate is not an example.
    Reply

    yes ... everything is advanced there ...
    1. Avior
      Avior 31 March 2020 21: 58 New
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      at first, even there, they clearly did not understand the extent of what happened
      as in the world
      but maybe the Chinese cheated, you never know.
      who knows
  • Grandfather
    Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 35 New
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    Quote: Liam
    where was BCG?

    Troll ... shove it to yourself BCG ... and go to sleep.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 March 2020 21: 08 New
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    And no one thought about the social aspect of what is happening? Look, certain groups of the population get sick and become carriers of infection. A simple turner from the factory, a saleswoman from the store, a minibus driver, a doctor at a children's clinic, a foreman from a construction site - all these people, with a great deal of probability, cannot be at risk. Those who can afford much more suffer. I do not urge to gloat, but it can be seen very, very clearly. A simple person, having sewn a mask, goes to the nearest grocery store and asks: “E-May, among my circle of friends there is nobody with this infection! And these, blei, traveled to different countries, brought muck! ..“ In these reasonings, definitely it makes sense.

    Once again - I sympathize with every person in a bad situation. But, recalling how they predicted the wild development of a terrible situation, for example, in India (there is also a crowded population and unsanitary conditions) I think - maybe the virus knows who to fuck ?! One m .... brought from Paris, another "smart" from the Czech Republic pinned down?
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 31 March 2020 21: 55 New
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      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Once again - I sympathize with every person in a bad situation.

      and I-you ... Nastya is the sun. right now you will be soooooooooooooo ... you're not a patriot even once.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 March 2020 21: 24 New
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    No, well, it's always like that. Those who went to work (business trip) - they quietly returned, including through the consulate. I am sure that tourists have also returned.

    These are banal illegal immigrants and teplopopiks. How hot - they immediately back. It turns out they MUST and even in a matter of hours, and with our money (they did not send their income to Russia - this can be sure. laughing
  • Avior
    Avior 31 March 2020 21: 55 New
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    the theory put forward is that the likelihood of morbidity and mortality depends on whether vaccinations against tuberculosis were mandatory in the country
    They are divided into three groups of countries: C- there is no compulsory vaccination, B- was, but canceled and A- was and there is compulsory vaccination

    Everyone can track and compare with the available data.
    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
    Of course, like any probabilistic theory, it will not 100% explain everything.
    And this is not far the only factor that affects indicators.
    In any case, the incidence in a specific territory will be random, quarantine measures have been introduced and carriers have been cut off at an early stage, the incidence will be less, not cut off in time, more.
    Statistics work only on large numbers, and finally we can talk about the applicability of the theory only when the pandemic declines and ends, maybe all this is nonsense and a coincidence
    But, say, it still fully explains the anomalous situation in the States, Italy and Holland
    and then you need to look ...
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  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 31 March 2020 22: 25 New
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    Interest for looked at the statistics on influenza ... There are no pidemies, and deaths around the world EVERY year - from 200 to 600 thousand ... But there is no panic.
  • paw
    paw 31 March 2020 22: 53 New
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    There are also such opinions on the epidemic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EEHq9JhUhc
  • AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 31 March 2020 23: 01 New
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    Quote: Dead Day
    Quote: Svarog

    My opinion is that everything started at all with us .. in 2019, somewhere at the end of October .. in December, he personally fell ill, very hard .. all the symptoms indicate coronavirus .. and a lot of people say that in November-December seriously ill ..

    The Urals, the same garbage, was very seriously ill, there was no similar disease, but it didn’t infect anyone in the family, the contacts were at a minimum, and it was "breaking" not for the children, everything was upset. the “press” muscles were especially ill, he moved on his “legs”, he worked in a mask, there was no temperature, weakness, sweat, it was very hard, but he survived.
  • Hypatius
    Hypatius 31 March 2020 23: 21 New
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    Experienced virologists advise against getting infected with Covid -19, because a new version of Covid -20 and Covid -20pro will be released soon laughing
  • Nikolay1
    Nikolay1 April 1 2020 00: 10 New
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    And you also noticed that most of all those infected in rich countries, probably God and Nature want to say this, that loot is not the main thing in life and it costs nothing. We must live humanly and protect Nature, and not just rake money no matter what ... That’s what they deserve
  • for
    for April 1 2020 00: 27 New
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    Maybe enough dead cows from the neighbors count.
  • evgenyfrasov
    evgenyfrasov April 1 2020 01: 01 New
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    Mantoux test
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  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 April 1 2020 06: 05 New
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    When this threat passes, it will be clear who is worth it. I don’t turn on the TV. The same thing. But, surprisingly, those who create laws get together, and nothing. Maybe they are talking? "Wait! Who's coming? Present a pass .." Everything is like in the song "Hands up."