COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three

Groups of scientists in different countries continue to study the situation with the spread of coronavirus infection. Virologists, specialists in mathematical statistics, microbiologists - all are trying to identify at least some pattern of distribution of COVID-19 on the planet.

To analyze the situation, maps are built on which territories that have encountered so far the maximum infection rates are represented.

Among other scientists, representatives of Johns Hopkins University presented their map of the distribution of the number of patients with a new type of coronavirus. The card differs from the specialists of this university from others in that it takes into account the specific number of patients - that is, the ratio of citizens with a diagnosis of COVID-19 to the country's population.

In the specific number of infected, the first place is occupied by Spain with a coefficient of 0,00202. In second place, which may seem surprising, is Switzerland. Its coefficient is 0,00189. The surprise may be due to the fact that medical care and disease prevention in Switzerland are considered one of the best not only in Europe but also in the world.

Italy closes the top three with a specific infection rate of COVID-19 - 0,00168.

At the same time, in terms of the percentage of deaths, it is Italy that continues to maintain a sad leadership in the world - 11,4%. For comparison: in Switzerland, the figure is about 2,45%, in Spain - 8,76%, and, for example, in Russia - 0,82%.

The United States remains the leader in the total number of cases. There are almost 175 thousand confirmed cases of infection. The mortality rate is relatively low compared with the same Italy and Spain - about 1,95%. However, in the United States, the situation is complicated by the fact that the lion's share of cases was detected in New York, and no one can say how the pandemic curve for this city will behave.

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[Grandfather]

COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three

according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI AND ARI. ("Whiteness" I barely bought, the entrances are not washed. But the papers were pasted on the doors)) I myself go 2 times pollinating. I’ll give a fuck about everyone.

[The popuas]

This morning I read an article that a vaccine against tuberculosis protects against coronavirus .... statistics were provided for West and East Germany, where in West there are many times more people who have become infected with this infection than in East! maybe all the same because in Russia there are so few infected

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Popuas

This morning I read an article that the vaccine against tuberculosis

Is there such a thing? I didn’t hear something ...
In any case, 10 years ago it wasn’t for sure

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: Lipchanin

Is there such a thing?

There is no vaccination, there is a pierce test for the presence of sticks.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: cherkas.oe

There is no vaccination, test the pierce for the presence of sticks.

Yes, he is lying too. The most reliable, fluorography

[Ingvar 72]

The most reliable T-spot.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ingvar 72

The most reliable T-spot

I do not know. I handed over a lot of things. Maybe this one. But perke showed that there is no tube

[Ingvar 72]

This is new, not yet included in the compulsory medical insurance. It costs 5 tr, a blood test is done.

[Shurik70]

In second place, which may seem surprising, is Switzerland.

Why be surprised?
Belarus and Switzerland are the only ones in Europe that are not going to fight the coronovirus.
So I will give the "specific" value will be the maximum. In Switzerland before, in Belarus later

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: Lipchanin

Yes, he is lying too.

Yes, it sometimes lies with weakened immunity and a lack of proteins and fats in food.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: cherkas.oe

Yes, it sometimes lies with weakened immunity and a lack of proteins and fats in food.

Yes, when he showed that he was not sick, he was delighted. But fluorography showed that there is. Then, in the hospital, the doctor said that he sometimes lies

[Alex777]

WHO takes data from this site:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
And they differ from what is given in the article.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Alex777

WHO takes data from this site:

Nevertheless, I dare to suggest that WHO has its own statistical service, and they are unlikely to use the data of any third-party site ...

[Days]

This is generally not important, since in any case the source is the Ministry of Health of the countries. And these figures do not speak about the actual spread of the virus.

Let's say the United States spent a bunch of testers and revealed a bunch of cases, and the percentage of deaths from detection does not decrease. And if in the USA it is 2%, and in Italy five times more fatal cases are relatively confirmed, then this only means that in Italy there are five times fewer infections detected.

Neither the New York health care system, nor the Italian health care system can cope with such an avalanche for a long time, so we can neglect the difference in the level of medicine, which in Italy is much weaker than the United States (and of course weaker than our medicine).

[Alex777]

Nevertheless, I dare to suggest that WHO has its own statistical service

You are a free person and you can assume anything.
You can use the search engine, ask ...
And WHO takes data from the specified site. He is official for them.

[Barmaleyka]

BCG (abbreviated from Bacillus Calmette-Guerin, FR. Bacillus Calmette-Guérin, BCG) is a tuberculosis vaccine prepared from a strain of weakened live bovine tuberculosis bacillus (Mycobacterium bovis), which has practically lost its virulence for humans, being specially grown in an artificial environment .

BCG is the only tuberculosis vaccine available for 2018 [1]. This vaccine is relatively safe, inexpensive, and requires only one injection. Despite its shortcomings, BCG vaccination in most endemic countries is seen as a lifesaving and important element of standard tuberculosis control measures.

[Ingvar 72]

BCG is not the only vaccine and is banned in many countries.

[Piramidon]

Quote: cherkas.oe

Quote: Lipchanin

Is there such a thing?

There is no vaccination, there is a pierce test for the presence of sticks.

And BCG, isn't it a vaccination?

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: Piramidon

And BCG, isn't it a vaccination?

For children in early infancy. Prevents from open form tuberculosis of the lungs, bones and other organs. Does not develop immunity. Does not protect against infection by the Koch’s stick itself.

[major147]

Quote: cherkas.oe

Quote: Lipchanin

Is there such a thing?

There is no vaccination, there is a pierce test for the presence of sticks.

BCG is called. By the way, in the USA there is no tuberculosis, such a climate.

[dedusik]

Well, as far as I remember, the first BCG vaccine was given to the newborn within a week, and the second to us, already at school.

[UAZ 452]

BCG? She’s not like 10 years old, she’s a hundred years old at lunch, as they say.

[The popuas]

Ask yourself what camp East and West Germany belonged to ... and correlate time ... all questions will disappear.

[Lipchanin]

And at what ... these camps?

[The popuas]

And with that .... that the eastern one was attached to the USSR, and the western one, well, you understand .... And in the west this vaccine is optional .... do you understand?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Popuas

Do you understand?

I do not understand.
I asked, is there such a thing in nature?
What does the camp have to do with it?

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Lipchanin

I asked, is there such a thing in nature?

in Yandex banned ?!

[Ingvar 72]

They have already denied it.

[major147]

Quote: Ingvar 72

They have already denied it.

There is a BCG vaccine. Whether it helps or not is another matter.

[Ingvar 72]

So am I about the same only from coronovirus it does not help

[Ilya-spb]

There is a suggestion. Return to the discussion of the map on May 1.

All of health!

[antivirus]

maybe April 1st? will return

[The popuas]

On the third day after birth they put ... you probably missed

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Popuas

On the third day after birth they put ... you probably missed

There is no vaccination against tuberculosis !!!!
Go to any TB clinic and ask.
Will laugh

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Lipchanin

There is no vaccination against tuberculosis !!!!
Go to any TB clinic and ask.
Will laugh

Well, before you write nonsense Well, at least in tyrnete check
BCG (abbreviated from Bacillus Calmette-Guerin, FR. Bacillus Calmette-Guérin, BCG) is a tuberculosis vaccine prepared from a strain of weakened live bovine tuberculosis bacillus (Mycobacterium bovis), which has practically lost its virulence for humans, being specially grown in an artificial environment .

BCG is the only tuberculosis vaccine available for 2018 [1]. This vaccine is relatively safe, inexpensive, and requires only one injection. Despite its shortcomings, BCG vaccination in most endemic countries is seen as a lifesaving and important element of standard tuberculosis control measures.

[Ingvar 72]

Not everyone. Now many refuse, because the tube is more a social disease.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ingvar 72

for the tube is more a social disease.

And there is. The lion's share of cases falls on the zones and on the homeless

[Ingvar 72]

Already wrote, an interesting fact - the number of refuseniks is growing in the country, and at the same time, the incidence of tuberculosis is falling. All these data are confirmed by the website of the Ministry of Health.

[Lipchanin]

Literally 10 years ago, we had a difficult situation on a tube. Now it’s no worse than in the country.

[Ingvar 72]

Where do you have it? In Lipetsk?

[Alex_Rarog]

On the 3rd day after birth they put a scar on her shoulder against smallpox. Dear ashamed!

[Ingvar 72]

Check the info, put BCG.

[major147]

Quote: Popuas

On the third day after birth they put ...:

Here I have a second grandson was born on 30.03.2020. Check, unsubscribe!

[AU Ivanov.]

BCG vaccination against tuberculosis in our country is mandatory for all newborns, starting in the early 50's.

[The popuas]

Lipchanin looks like a bot, besides stupid

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Popuas

Lipchanin looks like a bot, besides stupid

"Clever", you can not glue anything except labels.
I'm talking about what I experienced.
In 2010, I spent eight and a half months with tuberculosis and saw how much was lying there.
Now I am a "nebotik" tell me how this can be, everyone is vaccinated, and where do tuberculosis patients come from ??

[The popuas]

You were answered below ... this is not a panacea, and an article about something else nothing about your tuberculosis ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Popuas

nothing about your tuberculosis ...

So it’s you who started the vaccine about vaccination

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Lipchanin

In 2010, I spent eight and a half months with tuberculosis and saw how much was lying there.
Now I am a "nebotik" tell me how this can be, everyone is vaccinated, and where do tuberculosis patients come from ??

apparently you didn’t learn where or where at all, vaccination is not a guarantee against illness; it makes it possible to get sick in a milder form

[Piramidon]

Quote: Lipchanin

tell me how it can be, they are vaccinating everyone, but people with tuberculosis come from somewhere?

You just wrote that vaccination does not exist.

Lipchanin (Sergey)
There is no vaccination against tuberculosis !!!!
Go to any TB clinic and ask.
Will laugh

In Google, type three letters - "BCG", faith does not allow?

[major147]

Quote: Popuas

Lipchanin looks like a bot, besides stupid

I do not agree. The person has his own opinion on the problem. You can argue, but sculpting labels is not worth it.

[Lipchanin]

Then why do we have so many patients with tuberculosis ????
I know from my own experience

[AU Ivanov.]

The effectiveness of BCG is 50-70%, this is not a panacea.

[Ingvar 72]

Once again, not in this, and not necessarily.

[Oleg123219307]

Quote: Lipchanin

Is there such a thing?

This refers to BCG

[military_cat]

Strange theory. BCG provides immunity from a disease that is not even caused by a virus, but by a bacterium. It is possible that a correlation between vaccination and morbidity exists, but it still does not mean causation.

[The popuas]

I do not insist on the truth

[Liam]

Quote: military_cat

Strange theory. BCG provides immunity from a disease that is not even caused by a virus, but by a bacterium. It is possible that a correlation between vaccination and morbidity exists, but it still does not mean causation.

There is no correlation. In the same Germany there are lands that were not in the German Democratic Republic-Schl.-Holstein, Saar, Thuringia, but the incidence is like in the former GDR.
In other countries where there were no vaccinations (Italy, Spain, France, USA) - there are also huge differences in rates between different regions within the country

[Avior]

the difference will be between neighboring houses
a lot of factors plus an element of randomness

[Liam]

Trends are common, and this is by no means a bj

[Avior]

which for example?

[Liam]

In response to another post you wrote

[Avior]

don't think this explanation
the fact that carriers are not detected, but they are, suggests that the number of cases will quickly explode like an avalanche, hospitals will automatically quickly overflow, no matter what diagnosis
but this is not.

[Sergej1972]

Thuringia is just part of the former GDR.

[cost]

Liam (Liam): .In the same Germany there are lands that were not in the German Democratic Republic-Schl.-Holstein, Saar, Thuringia

From now on, Liam, I am your loyal fan:
I ask you not to stop and continue to pamper the forum with your extensive knowledge. It will be boring without them
Your admirer, Rich, by mistake, was born in the garrison hospital of the 8th Guards Order of Lenin of the Army of Nora (Weimar) in Thuringia.

[Oleg123219307]

Quote: military_cat

Strange theory. BCG provides immunity from a disease that is not even caused by a virus, but by a bacterium. It is possible that a correlation between vaccination and morbidity exists, but it still does not mean causation.

I’m surprised myself. But there is preliminary data. In fact, so far it’s all a fortune-telling, although what the hell is not joking, it may turn out that after vaccination the virus penetrates into the cells or it develops some type of nonspecific immunity ... Let's wait and listen to the scientists.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: oleg123219307

This refers to BCG

Yes, I have not heard about this. I have not heard enough in 8,5 months

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Lipchanin

Yes, I have not heard about this.

apparently you are on planet earth just recently

[Piramidon]

Quote: Lipchanin

Yes, I have not heard about this

And on Google and Yandex banned?

[Mouse]

BCG is called ... I remember in childhood put in the shoulder ...

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Popuas

This morning I read an article that the vaccine against tuberculosis

Is there such a thing? I didn’t hear something ...
In any case, 10 years ago it wasn’t for sure

Everyone in childhood was given BCG, the so-called ... This is the vaccination against tuberculosis. "BCG vaccination is an effective way to protect children from tuberculosis, and in case of infection, to significantly reduce the risk of its complications. Vaccination is carried out according to the National Calendar of Preventive Vaccinations." Http: //minzdrav.gov.by/ru/dlya-belorusskikh-grazhdan/vaktsinatsiya/vaktsinatsiya-protiv-tuberkuleza-btszh-.php

[Alex_59]

Quote: Lipchanin

Is there such a thing? I didn’t hear something ...

BCG All Soviet children are placed on the third day of birth in the shoulder and a characteristic scar remains.
Indeed, there is a version that countries where the damned totalitarian regime corrected all sorts of freedom of citizens stupidly puts this BCG to everyone, the COVID pandemic is less catastrophic. These countries are all countries of the former Warsaw Pact and China. But! This is just a version, not proven by anything.
For example, South Korea and Thailand are knocked out of this system, where the epidemic did not disperse, and BCG does not seem to be doing there.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Popuas

This morning I read an article that a vaccine against tuberculosis protects against coronavirus ....

I screwed up the vaccination against the "tick", the office in the Central Regional Hospital does not work. like this, put it to yourself ...

[Linxs]

It remains to see the welfare and where the most people in Germany and it will become clear that there is a manipulation of facts.
The north of Germany and the east of Germany have never been an industrial, business and developed center. Guess why.

[Liam]

Quote: LinxS

It remains to see the welfare and where the most people in Germany and it will become clear that there is a manipulation of facts.
The north of Germany and the east of Germany have never been an industrial, business and developed center. Guess why.

People love simple explanations of complex problems. BCG is simple and straightforward.
The obvious fact that the most susceptible to infection in all countries are the richest, with the most developed economies and, accordingly, with the highest population density and the regions most in contact with the world, are not so "colorful".
New York, Moscow, Madrid, Lombardy, London, IldeFrance, Bavaria, Upper Renania

[Avior]

The region most in contact with Wuhan is China itself.
there each province by population is a country
but nothing like that

[Liam]

Therefore quarantined half the country

[Avior]

for sure, even full quarantine was not introduced

[Liam]

Quote: Avior

for sure, even full quarantine was not introduced

https://www.google.com/amp/s/tass.ru/ekonomika/7721395/amp
The whole country was quarantined for a month

[7,62x54]

The number of cases directly depends on the speed of obtaining the test result and coverage of the population in a certain territory. Someone is sick on their feet, someone does not even have symptoms. Not even a local doctor can get to everyone’s house.

[aybolyt678]

statistics reflect the amount of insurance payments in case of infection. Relatives of the deceased are especially interested. Crosses everything from insurance companies to officials

[YOUR]

Or maybe all the same because there are no opportunities for control?

[svp67]

Quote: Dead Day

we have only ARVI AND ARI. ("Whiteness" I barely bought, the entrances are not washed. But the papers were pasted on the doors)) I myself go 2 times pollinating. I’ll give a fuck about everyone.

Write at once: Everything is lost ... We will all die.

and, for example, in Russia - 0,82%.

The chief physician of the Moscow "Kommunarka" said that he was sick with CorVi19 ... They start to raise such a howl and no, what would a person wish for recovery, they are waiting for the GDP to fall ill

[Grandfather]

Quote: svp67

Write at once: Everything is lost ... We will all die.

I write as it is, and you can yell "gloryaputenu" - this will clearly help!

[svp67]

Quote: Dead Day

as I write,

This is not necessary to write here, but in your Criminal Code, in the district administration. What are they doing, who controls the conduct of these works?

Quote: Dead Day

and you can shout "gloryaputenu" - this will clearly help!

Somehow I don’t know Slava Putin, why should I shout to him? He who? Your relative What does he do?

[Grandfather]

Quote: svp67

Somehow I don’t know Slava Putin, why should I shout to him? He who? Your relative What does he do?

not yours...

[svp67]

Quote: Dead Day

not yours...

no, definitely not mine ...

[7,62x54]

None of the Putin is sick. Tests are carried out constantly.

[NIKN]

Everyone screams Italy, Spain ... lda there is a lot of sickness there, but the mortality rate is terrible wu British. I was horrified by the sick 22141 recovered 151 and the dead 1415 such an attitude of the dead towards the recovered is no longer and close neither in Italy nor in Spain or WHERE

[YOUR]

But I was horrified that we do not have the ability to define a covid. There is one laboratory for the whole Far East, and that one is in the out-of-town Ussuriisk. But!!!!!!!! It is impossible to get tested. So we have no sick people in the Far East. And in general, how is the diagnosis for coronavirus going? In Russia, there are only three laboratories, and only a preliminary diagnosis is made there, if there is a suspicion of a positive test, then the biomaterials are sent to Novosibirsk, to the Virology Center "Vector" it was before 24.03.2020. Since March 24.03.2020, XNUMX, a specially equipped reference center has appeared on the basis of the FKUZ "Anti-Plague Center" of Rospotrebnadzor in Moscow. We made the distribution by districts. All Siberia and Far East to Novosibirsk, all Europe to Moscow.
Here comes such a small number of cases. And that we have insurance medicine, as insurers say, it will be the most fashionable cause of death now - heart failure. Without an autopsy.

But we help everyone, a helmet for everyone, but what about RUSSIA ??????????????????

[Hypatius]

Udmurt disappeared somewhere. Insiders say it’s completely over.

[military_cat]

Quote: Dead Day

fuck everyone in paradise

Well, on TV they explained that it was all fiction and escalation of hysteria. So they don’t even get hysterical.

[Grandfather]

Quote: military_cat

So they don’t even get hysterical.

I agree, they won’t hurt at all. for svp67 I can go out into the porch and shoot all the shit on the camera.

[svp67]

Quote: Dead Day

I agree, they won’t hurt at all. for svp67 I can go out into the porch and shoot all the shit on the camera.

Thank you ... You know, if you like living in it, then who will help you? This is not here to cry and have to sting ...

[Blacksmith 55]

This contagion spread around the world so quickly thanks to the modern development of tourism.
Literally a few hours are needed in order to fly a half of the world.
I think the tourism industry will stall for several years, and then ....., human memory is short, everything will return to normal.
However, politicians need to draw conclusions.
Another example: in the last couple of decades, many countries of the world have moved production to China, now it turns out that neither Europe nor America is able to quickly establish the production of the same masks.
So far, they have come mainly from China. It follows from this that we need to produce more at home, and not rely on "partners".
These partners think primarily about themselves.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Dead Day

Fuck everyone in the wreck.

Well, so the emergency has not been announced, where officially to take the funds? Or do you think that the bureaucrats calling for self-isolation will go to self-sacrifice?

[Grandfather]

Quote: mat-vey

Well, so the emergency has not been announced, where officially to take the funds? Or do you think that the bureaucrats calling for self-isolation will go to self-sacrifice?

yes it is clear .. it's easier to stick a leaflet with a promise 2 times a day to "do processing" and do not do nichrome.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Dead Day

and do not do nichrome.

Well, they may ask you for your "Whiteness" - that you do so little and do not regularly process it. Also, if you have any questions, you will be penalized.

[Tusv]

Quote: Dead Day

"White" barely bought

Duc has long been "White" deficit. Even before someone ate someone and sneezed for the first time. And in bags, about 7 years ago, I last saw it. It is not profitable to trade pure whiteness. Here add a thickener, flavor and the price tag can be folded 4 times

[svd-xnumx]

Drugs are buying up "whiteness" with matches, I will not voice the rest of the "indigrients" so that they would not be accused of spreading.

[Vadim02rus]

Quote: svd-xnumx

Drugs are buying up "whiteness" with matches, I will not voice the rest of the "indigrients" so that they would not be accused of spreading.

"Crocodile"
And gasoline because of them dear)

[Grandfather]

Quote: Tusv

Duc has long been "White" deficit.

today at "5" I bought two by kg.

[Tusv]

Quote: Dead Day

today at "5" I bought two by kg.

2 kg per hand? Comrades he steals our "Whiteness" Just kidding
Count it, went into the magnet for soap and barely squeezed between the containers. They have a warehouse there

[Grandfather]

Quote: Tusv

2 kg per hand? Comrades he steals our "Whiteness"

burned ... so I'm processing one entrance ... is there a discount? "magnets" are not food-locked. in general, blinds are everywhere in the city, we observe the "silence" mode, in the basement the store is not far away open. everything from dumplings to insoles. but only "non-cash", a girl of about 65 at the counter, evaluates at once, sick, no, everyone knows the yard-well. on trust. fraught, but all with understanding (please treat with understanding (S)) ni ... in masks, gloves (so as not to infect her)

[Tusv]

Quote: Dead Day

burnt down ... so I process one entrance ... is there a discount?

"Repent, Ivanovich, you will get a discount" (c) Bulgakov.
Honor and praise for handling the porch. Sorry not mine

[Grandfather]

Quote: Tusv

"Repent, Ivanovich, you will get a discount" (c) Bulgako

[cost]

Tusv (Vladimir):Count it, went into the magnet for soap and barely squeezed between the containers

It’s right - you can’t squeeze without soap

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Dead Day

according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI AND ARI. ("Whiteness" I barely bought, the entrances are not washed. But the papers were pasted on the doors)) I myself go 2 times pollinating. I’ll give a fuck about everyone.

Twenty minutes ago I came from a pharmacy, sellers without masks, without gloves (the owner did not buy). There is no wide bandage, only gauze wipes available des. no drugs
no paracetamol, etc. Pharmacy "April" Krasnodar Territory.

[Grandfather]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Twenty minutes ago I came from a pharmacy, sellers without masks, without gloves (the owner did not buy). There is no wide bandage, only gauze wipes available des. no drugs
no paracetamol, etc. Pharmacy "April" Krasnodar Territory.
Reply

well, that's all .. you are a traitor and all-pervading, right now "svp67" will spank you without a trial ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Twenty minutes ago I came from a pharmacy, sellers without masks, without gloves (the owner did not buy). There is no wide bandage, only gauze wipes available des. no drugs
no paracetamol, etc. Pharmacy "April" Krasnodar Territory.

Today I went to the pharmacy, and there are masks (and everything, in principle, is) but 40 rubles each! And the effectiveness of this mask is curious. Masks-respirators "class" FFP2 (12 MPC) are more or less effective up to 94%. Why am I? And to the fact that to whom - the war, and to whom - is a mother.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Tank Hard

Today I went to the pharmacy, and there are masks (and everything, in principle, is) but 40 rubles each! And the effectiveness of this mask is curious. Masks-respirators "class" FFP2 (12 MPC) are more or less effective up to 94%. Why am I? And to the fact that to whom - the war, and to whom - is a mother.

And before all this, the masks were 5 p. Capitalism however. I'm more interested in how many unemployed will appear when it all ends.

[Tank hard]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

And before all this, the masks were 5 p. Capitalism however

Someone earns the hard way.

[Grandfather]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

I'm more interested in how many unemployed will appear when it all ends.

why do you want it ? are you recruiting?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Dead Day

why do you want it ? are you recruiting?

I do not want riots.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Tank Hard

Today I went to the pharmacy, and there are masks there (and everything, in principle, is), but 40 rubles each!

like taxi drivers ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: Dead Day

like taxi drivers ...

I still remember the Gorbachev era and taxi drivers for 15 rubles a bottle of vodka.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: Dead Day

like taxi drivers ...

I still remember the Gorbachev era and taxi drivers for 15 rubles a bottle of vodka.

yes ... right now a hundred rubles ...

[Vadim02rus]

FFP2 class respirators are more or less effective

1500 TNG in Astana.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Vadim02rus

1500 TNG in Astana

About a month ago, they lay, gathering dust in the store of "specialists" for 19 rubles (approximately, I don't remember exactly) apiece. Empty now.

[7,62x54]

Magnit employees work in the hall and at the checkout without masks and gloves. Daps on the roads without masks. This is normal. They are so tenacious, like a virus themselves

[Harry.km]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Twenty minutes ago I came from a pharmacy, sellers without masks, without gloves (the owner did not buy). There is no wide bandage, only gauze wipes available des. no drugs
there is no paracetamol, etc.

Quote: Dead Day

well, that's all .. you are a traitor and all-pervading, right now "svp67" will spank you without a trial ...

Nah ... Now it's a fake, and criminal liability is laid for it ...

[Svarog]

Quote: Dead Day

COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three

according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI AND ARI. ("Whiteness" I barely bought, the entrances are not washed. But the papers were pasted on the doors)) I myself go 2 times pollinating. I’ll give a fuck about everyone.

Indeed ... all countries are in an epidemic, but according to the map, everything is normal ... a couple of visiting Africans fell ill ..

[Gardamir]

and judging by the map

from tyrnet,

It is interesting to observe how the Russian Federation makes excuses to civilized humanity, why we have so few cases. They promise that there will be more, much more, even famous people will get sick in the near future.

But Belarus, the existence of which progressive humanity does not know on the map, in general scored everything. As they diagnosed “acute respiratory infections” for colds, they put it ...

[Grandfather]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Dead Day

COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three

according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI AND ARI. ("Whiteness" I barely bought, the entrances are not washed. But the papers were pasted on the doors)) I myself go 2 times pollinating. I’ll give a fuck about everyone.

Indeed ... all countries are in an epidemic, but according to the map, everything is normal ... a couple of visiting Africans fell ill ..

and that’s because they said hello to the monkeys at the zoo ... well, like kindred ...

[Grandfather]

Quote: Dead Day

COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three

according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI AND ARI. ("Whiteness" I barely bought, the entrances are not washed. But the papers were pasted on the doors)) I myself go 2 times pollinating. I’ll give a fuck about everyone.

and yes, before the Doctors, I take off my hat, and the scalp, and in general ... Doctors are Heroes. no options. ALL ! without nations and borders! just accept Respect!

[Maz]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR1gXNyyQSLNytX_iY5k2R31uVi3T6-R9IZScGp3opkgJASrrxXCbsevE80 в сша уже 180 000 зараженных и 3400 умерших - ссылка очень добротная, отслеживает ситуацию в реальном времени более чем сотне странах мира. Рекомендую.

[Observer2014]

Quote: Dead Day

COVID-19 specific morbidity map presented: Switzerland is in the top three

according to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI AND ARI. ("Whiteness" I barely bought, the entrances are not washed. But the papers were pasted on the doors)) I myself go 2 times pollinating. I’ll give a fuck about everyone.

I'm already writing openly arrest me! On the next branch. Tomorrow when I try to go to work. For my superiors this is apparently not And the enemies. And I ask you to arrest me and my colleagues. And to save me by arrest from these (there are no such words) Details on the next branch. "Reporter" If they don't arrest tomorrow . In the color of the started quarantine of 18 zero zero across the Krasnodar Territory. I will continue to inform until the victory over the virus. How did we defeat it. Well, or until I die of this muck.
p / s I really do not want to infect my loved ones. But you do not want me to fall upon the guilty in my last fight on the guilty?

[Michael67]

Grandfather
"According to Stanislavsky .... we only have ARVI and ARI. (I barely bought the" whiteness ", they don't wash the entrances, but they stuck the pieces of paper on the doors)) I pollinate myself 2 times.

Sevastopol was also sprayed with water in the streets (regular irrigation machines), and men in special coats and masks with spray guns walked and watered at the porches. There was no smell.
The alcohol itself spread 70%. From the pulik my hands. Face too. And gets inside. Necessary + pleasant.

[smart ass]

Where in Russia will people become infected with a coronovirus if there are no freely available test systems?

[den3080]

I look at this fuss of near-medical institutions and associations, on the one hand, as a monkey and glasses from Krylov’s fable, and on the other hand, as attempts to whitewash the “flagship” western states.
They have San Marino has now become the leader in specific mortality, Switzerland in 2nd place. These exercises will end in some Gabon + Gambia + Rwanda, as the first three.
It is necessary to justify.

And from the 3rd side, in my opinion: the small number of infected in some countries reflects the extent of testing the population more than the real picture of the spread of the virus “on the territory”.
The number of people tested, all speaking heads from different countries (from all), are not stubbornly called. In Russia they said a couple of times and also fell silent.
Moreover, I have heard mutually exclusive recommendations for testing for coronavirus. Some say: testing is carried out only for those who do not have symptoms of SARS. Others broadcast: at the first symptoms of acute respiratory viral infections, call, contact, come, test.
Both are officially announced in the news.
What to do?
If a person has no symptoms and he went to be tested (just in case): he violated ... either quarantine, or self-isolation, stood in the queue, passed ... and with a high probability he took the coronavirus home.
And if there are symptoms? I called, called, someday they will come for analysis and in the same way they will most likely bring a “gift” to a person and his family.
Once again I ask: What to do ??

[Lord of the Sith]

Where the courtyard is, there are sores, everything is simple.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Where the courtyard is, there are sores, everything is simple.

in our childhood. It was upbringing. cuffs from any passerby ... result: respect for elders.

[Operator]

In the United States, due to the relatively small number of tests, the number of deaths from the coronavirus itself is so far only counted in New York. In other cities and states, the deceased (especially not hospitalized) are written off according to local tradition to the undisclosed reporting position of ARVI (including even for influenza).

[Blackmokona]

Obviously not so

More than 626 thousand tests were done in the USA. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved a rapid coronavirus test, which can be obtained in 45 minutes. According to President Donald Trump, it was mass testing that led the country to come first in the number of cases of Covid-19 infection detected, where the number of patients exceeded 100 thousand people.

[Operator]

In Russia, as of yesterday, +600 thousand tests were done, but our population is two and a half times smaller and there is no such mess as in the USA, where quarantine is not even declared, and the population of New York and other megacities is scattered intensively throughout country.

[Blackmokona]

In Russia, quarantine is not declared, in the USA quarantines are declared by some states, but there is no nationwide

[Nastia makarova]

already announced, in the Krasnodar Territory declared karatntin

[Tusv]

Quote: Operator

In Russia, as of yesterday, +600 thousand tests were done

Well, they obliged us to undergo a test for coronavirus. There are 3 diagnostic companies to choose from. Prices from 600 pe to 2 thousand wooden. Do not care. The company pays. Duration, from one day to three. Out of one and a half thousand workers, only one got through. They put a cotton bud in his nose and drove home. Is this an order?
Pancake. Have you seen how car sharing is running the show? The heel arrives, sticks the gut into the tank and leaves.
Why they don’t do that. Gather cotton buds from the area? Fucking problem.
Assign the menderiders, they know how

[Grandfather]

Quote: Tusv

They put a cotton bud in his nose and drove home. Is this an order?

yes .... it was somewhere 52 years ago ... I accidentally wanted to write, and I went into the toilet in my group in the kindergarten ... and there ... Elvira Nikolaevna ... in a raskoryak ... glass wand with cotton wool, myself .... my world has changed ...

[AU Ivanov.]

Naturally. No healthy - there are unexplored.

[GUSAR]

And in Italy, on the contrary, all the dead are recorded from the crown, and it doesn’t matter what you have there. They have already defeated oncology in Italy, cardiovascular and other things, right?

[AU Ivanov.]

Worldwide, the growth of heart attacks and strokes. The coronovirus is also to blame, or rather the panic about it.

[Demon_is_ada]

Then a question arose ... let's say the core was infected with covid19, as a result of general intoxication, a heart attack and that ... question, where will we write? In fact, death from heart failure, but the cause of the virus, by the way, officially it is the same as SARS ...
Well, about the sad ... for three days I explained to my wife the rules, techniques, tactics in the infected area, I decided to check how I learned ...
She doesn’t understand at all (doesn’t understand, namely, it’s unreasonable) that absolutely everyone and everyone should be considered infected ... periodically gives out - well, he (she) does not get sick, determines by eye better than any advanced bio-laboratory
He believes in a mythical someone who doesn’t put the infected person behind the counter, doesn’t let him out ... I got the impression that I was in the Middle Ages Humans do not perceive reality at all, if someone applies something more lethal, then in six months we will cease to exist as a species ... but what, cheap and cheerful
And she’s quite smart at me, I watched the crowd generally frostbitten

[Tusv]

Quote: Operator

In the United States, due to the relatively small number of tests, the number of deaths from the coronavirus itself is so far only counted in New York.

Nothing like this. On the Hopkins website everything is detailed. But only in the States and Canada

[Operator]

Most of the numbers on the Hopkins website are calculated, not accounting.

[Tusv]

In my opinion there are dumb statistics

[Alex Justice]

The big picture:
https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw

[Grandfather]

Quote: Operator

In the United States, due to the relatively small number of tests, the number of deaths from the coronavirus itself is so far only counted in New York. In other cities and states, the deceased (especially not hospitalized) are written off according to local tradition to the undisclosed reporting position of ARVI (including even for influenza).

when blacks are shot in the streets, no one cares about "viruses" at all.

[smart ass]

Just like in Russia?

[Lipchanin]

The surprise may be due to the fact that medical care and disease prevention in Switzerland are considered one of the best not only in Europe but also in the world.

So somewhere we looked at something

[Grandfather]

Quote: Lipchanin

So somewhere we looked at something

about ******* how is it? banned again, such as Nastya ... our Virgin Immaculate.

[knn54]

It is interesting to know the average age of the deceased. In Italy, for example, 79,5 years.

[Fishery]

this is because they were not vaccinated against tuberculosis in childhood))) there is a new theory)

[GUSAR]

Here's what's interesting to me. Just do not immediately "already wrote", "look for yourself" and so on. Our Far East. Who is from there, just tell me. When all this waterbag started in China back in January, my first thought was immediately: now the Chinese and ours will bring her to our Far East. But silence, well, no one got infected directly (then). Although I heard from the locals, but what is called in fits and starts, that from November to February there was a wave of SARS and flu. And no one attached any particular importance to it. Just what do you say?

[Grandfather]

Quote: GUSAR

Just what do you say?

as doctors .. ARVI, acute respiratory infections, and just "sneeze" ...

[Svarog]

Quote: GUSAR

Just what do you say?

My opinion is that everything started at all with us .. in 2019, somewhere at the end of October .. in December I personally fell ill, very hard .. all the symptoms indicate coronavirus .. and a lot of people say that in November-December seriously ill .. but since we are not worried about the analysis and everything ARVI, we simply did not pay attention to it, unlike the Chinese ..

[bubalik]

,,,may be. In the fall, quarantine schools were closed.

The epidemic rise of viral diseases began in the Russian Federation: schools in Krasnoyarsk, Rostov-on-Don, Orenburg, Samara regions are closing down due to an outbreak of community-acquired pneumonia.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Svarog

My opinion is that everything started at all with us .. in 2019, somewhere at the end of October .. in December, he personally fell ill, very hard .. all the symptoms indicate coronavirus .. and a lot of people say that in November-December seriously ill ..

Ural, the same garbage, was very seriously ill, there was no similar illness, but in the family it did not infect anyone, contacts were at a minimum, and it did not "break" at all, everything was sore. especially the "press" -muscles hurt, moved on "legs" worked in a mask, there was no temperature, weakness-sweat, very hard, but survived.

[GUSAR]

Father (58 years old) was sick in mid-February, coughing for 3 days, and sweating like a jock in training, 2 more days weakness, and then, as a young man, interestingly, his grandmother (his mother 78 years old) visited and then after 2 weeks snot and throat, no fever and that's it! So think here ...

[Grandfather]

Quote: GUSAR

3 days, the temperature is coughing, and sweating is like that of a muscled man in training, another 2 days is weakness, and then as a young one, interestingly, my grandmother (his mother is 78 years old) visited and then weeks later

It looks like my sore. Only the temperature was not. Also 57 if that.

[Vadim237]

"It all started with us" - Coronovirus of the brain, except.

[Demon_is_ada]

We have the same in Voronezh since late autumn, throat, intestinal upsets, coughing hurt everyone I know, I was ill easily ... 2 weeks ago I picked up the same shnyag again, my wife gave me ... so far, though it’s also bronchitis, Now the wife was easily ill. I have the same symptoms, given that the corona mutates easily or the immunity is not stable, it can very well be. And coronavirus is ARVI, and there are no laboratories that we can do analysis and determine the strain

[smart ass]

How can Russia be infected if there are no test systems in the public domain?

[Vadim02rus]

Still from Africa, silence. This is where, in theory, the "hotbed" should be.

[GUSAR]

There is still such a wonderful country of Yemen, well, just a branch of paradise on earth. So on the map of this virus there are 0 (zero) cases! Maybe they just do not care ...

[Grandfather]

Quote: GUSAR

! Maybe they just do not care ...

duck war ... what diseases are there ...

[Grandfather]

Quote: Vadim02rus

Still from Africa, silence. This is where, in theory, the "hotbed" should be.

with a fig? if it is "airborne", then it is definitely not in Africa .... you yourself will dry up there before you sneeze ...

[Avior]

read about the relationship of vaccinations against tuberculosis and the level of disease and mortality
the farther the more justified

[Liam]

Quote: Avior

read about the relationship of vaccinations against tuberculosis and the level of disease and mortality
the farther the more justified

It turns out Wuhan is the only city in China in which BCG vaccinations were not done

[Avior]

no, there is normal statistics, the mortality rate is relatively low
Another thing is that they began to fight the spread of late

[Liam]

In Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and so on, the TB infection rate and mortality from the virus are higher than in Wuhan where was BCG?

[Avior]

Wuhan was the first, really no diagnosis, no treatment, so the incidence rate is not an example.

[Liam]

That is, for three months people were infected, sick and died by tens of thousands and no one counted them until the end of January, but you trust their statistics. During these 3 months before quarantine, how many Wuhan people walked around China and how many other Chinese people visited Wuhan and where everyone disappeared from the statistics.

[Avior]

that is, the example of Wuhan in principle can not be used to analyze the incidence

[Liam]

That's it. And then what is the theory about BCG based on?. On the GDR / Germany?

[Avior]

on general statistics

[Liam]

General statistics say that at present only rich countries that have the opportunity to test and spend billions on treating patients provide some reasonable numbers. In poor countries (including post-Soviet) there are no such opportunities, so there are openwork statistics there.
Of the rich countries, the South Caucasus, Japan, Hong Kong are doing the best so far, Singapore of which is united by proximity to China and in this regard, were subjected (in contrast to Europe and the United States) to "attacks" of previous Chinese epidemics - sars, avian and other flu. Therefore, they have have experience and reacted immediately.
In Europe and the United States, the richest regions of countries with the most developed economies, the highest population density and the most frequent contacts with the world are exposed to intense infection. This also applies to Germany. Postgdrovsk and northern lands are the poorest in Germany and the population density is lower.

[Avior]

China itself did not immediately respond. Despite the experience.
It is simply impossible to write off the absence of tests, because if the sick people are not fixed for the most part, then this is an avalanche-like increase in the number of patients, the presence of the disease and carriers does not depend on the tests

[Liam]

In China, this is a systemic problem characteristic of authoritarian regimes. I could react quickly, these epidemics did not repeat every few years. They constantly hide dust under the carpet until the situation explodes. In the past, only the region was infected, this time the virus turned out to be very light-transmitting and infected the whole planet .
But it happens like an avalanche. Miracles do not happen. And in poor countries, millions will die. Most of the truth will not indicate this diagnosis.

[Avior]

as long as the diagnosis is not indicated, hospitals will be overcrowded automatically, if in reality the scale is much higher than recorded.
the problem is not in what form it is sick, the problem is that it infects others

[Liam]

And who has access to Chinese hospitals? Many reports from there were seen as from Europe, for example. All the data is exclusively Chinese. No wonder censorship has been introduced for so many years, including on the Internet.

[Avior]

that is, there is no evidence that China is massively hiding the incidence and mortality rate?
Clear

[Liam]

)))
Secret report of the Politburo of the CPC Central Committee?
https://m.hightech.plus/2020/02/12/realnoe-chislo-zarazhennih-koronavirusom-v-kitae-v-19-raz-bolshe

[Avior]

You yourself wrote above that there is no real information from China

[Grandfather]

Quote: Avior

Han was the first, really no diagnosis, no treatment, so the incidence rate is not an example.
Reply

yes ... everything is advanced there ...

[Avior]

at first, even there, they clearly did not understand the extent of what happened
as in the world
but maybe the Chinese cheated, you never know.
who knows

[Grandfather]

Quote: Liam

where was BCG?

Troll ... shove it to yourself BCG ... and go to sleep.

[Gennady Fomkin]

And no one thought about the social aspect of what is happening? Look - certain groups of the population get sick and become carriers of the infection. A simple turner from a factory, a saleswoman from a store, a bus driver, a doctor at a children's clinic, a construction superintendent - all these people, with a great degree of probability, cannot be at risk. Those who can afford much more are suffering. I do not urge to gloat, but this is visible, very, clearly. A simple man, having sewn a mask, goes to the nearest grocery store and asks: "E-May, there is no one among my circle of friends with this infection! And these, blas, traveled to different countries, brought nasty things! .." In these arguments, definitely it makes sense.

Once again, I sympathize with every person who gets into a bad situation. But, remembering how the wild development of a terrible situation was predicted, for example, in India (overcrowded population and unsanitary conditions there) I think - maybe the virus knows who to fuck ?! One m .... brought it from Paris, the other "smart" from the Czech Republic pinned it?

[Grandfather]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Once again - I sympathize with every person in a bad situation.

and I-you ... Nastya is the sun. right now you will be soooooooooooooo ... you're not a patriot even once.

[Gennady Fomkin]

No, well, it's always like that. Those who went to work (business trip) - they quietly returned, including through the consulate. I am sure that tourists have also returned.

These are banal illegal immigrants and teplopopiks. How hot - they immediately back. It turns out they MUST and even in a matter of hours, and with our money (they did not send their income to Russia - this can be sure.

[Avior]

the theory put forward is that the likelihood of morbidity and mortality depends on whether vaccinations against tuberculosis were mandatory in the country
They are divided into three groups of countries: C- there is no compulsory vaccination, B- was, but canceled and A- was and there is compulsory vaccination

Everyone can track and compare with the available data.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Of course, like any probabilistic theory, it will not 100% explain everything.
And this is not far the only factor that affects indicators.
In any case, the incidence in a specific territory will be random, quarantine measures have been introduced and carriers have been cut off at an early stage, the incidence will be less, not cut off in time, more.
Statistics work only on large numbers, and finally we can talk about the applicability of the theory only when the pandemic declines and ends, maybe all this is nonsense and a coincidence
But, say, it still fully explains the anomalous situation in the States, Italy and Holland
and then you need to look ...

[Cowbra]

Interest for looked at the statistics on influenza ... There are no pidemies, and deaths around the world EVERY year - from 200 to 600 thousand ... But there is no panic.

[paw]

There are also such opinions on the epidemic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EEHq9JhUhc

[AU Ivanov.]

Quote: Dead Day

Quote: Svarog

My opinion is that everything started at all with us .. in 2019, somewhere at the end of October .. in December, he personally fell ill, very hard .. all the symptoms indicate coronavirus .. and a lot of people say that in November-December seriously ill ..

Ural, the same garbage, was very seriously ill, there was no similar illness, but in the family it did not infect anyone, contacts were at a minimum, and it did not "break" at all, everything was sore. especially the "press" -muscles hurt, moved on "legs" worked in a mask, there was no temperature, weakness-sweat, very hard, but survived.

[Hypatius]

Experienced virologists advise against getting infected with Covid -19, because a new version of Covid -20 and Covid -20pro will be released soon

[Nikolay1]

And you also noticed that most of all those infected in rich countries, probably God and Nature want to say this, that loot is not the main thing in life and it costs nothing. We must live humanly and protect Nature, and not just rake money no matter what ... That’s what they deserve

[for]

Maybe enough dead cows from the neighbors count.

[evgenyfrasov]

Mantoux test

[nikvic46]

When this threat passes, it will be clear who is worth what. I no longer turn on the TV. It’s the same thing. But, surprisingly, those who create laws come together, and nothing. Maybe they are conspiracy? "Stop! Who's coming? Show your pass .." Everything is like in the song "Hands Up".