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The Black Sea Fleet will be strengthened by frigates of the 22350 Admiral Gorshkov project

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The Black Sea Fleet will be strengthened by frigates of the 22350 Admiral Gorshkov project

Russian frigates of project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov will replenish the Black Sea fleet. This was reported by "Izvestia" with reference to sources in the Ministry of Defense.


According to the publication, a fundamental decision to strengthen the Black Sea Fleet with frigates of project 22350 has already been taken. To accommodate the ships of this series, the necessary coastal infrastructure will be built, work should begin in the near future. At the same time, the source does not report how many frigates will be part of the Black Sea Fleet and in what time frame it is planned to do, however, according to available information, two new ships of this series should be laid down at the Severnaya Verf ship this year.

Recall that at present the head frigate of project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov (Northern Fleet) is serving as part of the Russian Navy; the first serial Admiral Kasatonov is preparing for commissioning (it will also be part of the Northern Fleet). Two more ships of the series - “Admiral Golovko” and “Admiral Isakov” are at the completion stages (according to the plans - the Northern Fleet).

Initially, they wanted to limit the series of frigates of project 22350 to four ships, but last year it was decided to lay down two more combat ships of this project: Admiral Amelko and Admiral Chichagov, which were laid in April 2019. These frigates will go to the Pacific Fleet.

Recall that the ships of project 22350 have a displacement of 5 thousand tons with a length of 135 m and a width of 16 m. The frigate is able to cover 4500 miles, while developing a speed of up to 29 knots. Autonomy of swimming is 30 days. Crew - from 170 people.

Main power plant: gas turbine engine with a total capacity of 65 thousand liters. with., diesel generators with a total capacity of 4 thousand kW.

The frigate is armed with: the 130-mm A-192 artillery mount, the Poliment-Redut anti-aircraft missile system; launchers for 16 anti-ship missiles "Onyx" or "Caliber", anti-submarine complex "Package", anti-submarine helicopter Ka-27.

In May last year, it was reported that the Ministry of Defense decided to build a series of frigates of the modernized project 22350M. In total, it is planned to build 12 ships, the first of which should be part of the Navy in 2027.
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  1. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 31 March 2020 09: 07 New
    +5
    2027 - optimistic ...
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 31 March 2020 09: 21 New
      -6
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      2027 - optimistic ...

      fellow
      However, the source does not report how many frigates will enter in the Black Sea Fleet and in what terms it is planned to dohowever, according to available information, two new ships of this series should be laid at Severnaya Verf this year.

      Twice fellow
      There is no cause for concern. They promised to pledge - they will pledge. And by 2024, everything that has not yet been laid will be laid ...
      How much can you feed us with bagel holes? Better a tit in hand than a duck under the bed ...
      1. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 31 March 2020 10: 09 New
        0
        Quote: ROSS 42
        There is no cause for concern. They promised to pledge - they will pledge.

        Oh, oh. Only now I recall GPV 2020. There, too, they promised a lot of things.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 31 March 2020 13: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          Oh, oh. Only now I recall GPV 2020. There, too, they promised a lot of things.

          Do you somehow distinguish between genres, like the style is not lame ... Is this for someone ??? fool
          Quote: ROSS 42
          How much can you feed us with bagel holes? Better a tit in hand than a duck under the bed ...
      2. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 31 March 2020 10: 32 New
        0
        How much can you feed us with bagel holes? Better a tit in hand than a duck under the bed ...

        Work is underway, it just doesn’t always work out on time. Project 22350 was still being created from scratch. This year, for example, they will complete the development of a strategic nuclear weapon. And while 22160 corvettes will be in service.
        Rear Admiral Oleg Shastov, head of the Novorossiysk Naval Base (NVMB), said that work on equipping the harbor will be completed in 2020.


        Rear Admiral added that an eastern pier was built at the moment - a hydraulic structure that protects the internal raid of the Novorossiysk harbor from storms. Its length is 1600 m. Soon, the construction of a western pier with a length of 850 m will be completed. Both structures must withstand waves up to 5 m high and an earthquake up to 9 points.


        The Novorossiysk base is an operational-tactical territorial association located in the ice-free Tsemess Bay. Its main tasks include protecting the southern borders of the Russian Federation, covering the Caucasian direction and supporting the Russian group of forces in Syria. SLCM is capable of accommodating up to 120 ships and submarines of various displacement.

        Project 22160 corvettes will strengthen the NVMB. The corvette design allows the installation of modular container weapons, including for launching Caliber cruise missiles.
        In 2020-2022, the Novorossiysk base will receive four similar corvettes: Pavel Derzhavin, Sergey Kotov, Victor the Great, and Nikolai Sipyagin. All of them will be part of the 184th brigade of ships guarding the water region of the Black Sea Fleet.


        The ship's displacement is 1905 tons, length - 91 m, width - 14 m, draft - 3,4 m, full speed - 22,5 knots (41,67 km / h), battery life - 60 days, cruising range - 6,7 , 12,4 thousand miles (48 thousand km), the crew of the ship consists of 27 people. At the stern of a military vessel there is a platform for one helicopter (Ka-29, Ka-52 or Ka-02800K), under it there is a hangar for project 680 assault landing boat and BL-XNUMX high-speed boat.

        https://russian.rt.com/russia/article/625763-novorossiysk-baza-korabli
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 31 March 2020 10: 38 New
          +6
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          just not always on time

          Rather, it is always not on time. wink
          1. Sky strike fighter
            Sky strike fighter 31 March 2020 10: 46 New
            -3
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            just not always on time

            Rather, it is always not on time. wink

            The projects are complex. The French have been building their MAPL Barracuda for 20 years. Only this year they will be adopted. The postponement of the construction of complex military equipment in our time is a global trend.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 31 March 2020 11: 47 New
              +2
              Pay attention to how the Chinese are building, and after all, their projects are not easier. And after all, it’s not even about money, there are not enough capacities, and qualified personnel.
            2. Tiksi-3
              Tiksi-3 31 March 2020 12: 04 New
              +3
              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              Complex projects

              what's so complicated ?? belay built for a long time because of problems with the Polyment-Redoubt system, now another problem is the gas turbine unit. That's the whole difficulty, there are no turbines (gearboxes) - there are no ships, everything else is already in the series
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 31 March 2020 13: 26 New
          +2
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Work is underway, it just doesn’t always work out on time.

          Work is also going on in the morgue ... You do not convince me, you prove with numbers, terms of construction, terms of modernization, the number of operating ships, their ability to perform tasks fully and in any conditions ...
          And here you are writing what I have read for years !!! back. Your lack of servitude does not suit me, I am satisfied with the PLANNED AND ON TIME !!! introduction of new units for the fleet.
          1. Sky strike fighter
            Sky strike fighter 31 March 2020 13: 34 New
            -2
            Your lackeys doesn't suit me

            Do not be rude. The address was wrong. I don’t care what suits you, I’m not going to prove anything to you personally, much less convince you.
            Work is also going on in the morgue ...

            I hope you do not work there.
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 31 March 2020 13: 46 New
              +2
              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              Do not be rude. The address was wrong. I don’t care what suits you, I’m not going to prove anything to you personally, much less convince you.

              I’m still rude to you, I just answered all your dusty and moldy replies. No need to convince me. Putin couldn’t convince me either, but to you ... While I believe in the eyes and hands with which you can look, feel these wonders.
              Shipborne power plants for ships of rank I mastered? Or are you going to twist the shaft together with the "galley rower"? Then sit and do not be indignant.
              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              I hope you do not work there.

              I already wrote where I served and worked. Had to go to the morgue. And in different. The sight is completely unsightly, the morgue shown in the film "Men in Black" in comparison with the Kemerovo city - the Wedding Palace. And the orderlies there are completely “adequate and educated with alcohol” people. Have you personally seen corpses lying side by side? Not on a stretcher or tables, but on a heap? Then do not puff and puff out your cheeks - I do not force you to report to me and I have no desire to speak with you either.
        3. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 31 March 2020 15: 44 New
          +2
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Project 22160 corvettes will strengthen the NVMB. The corvette design allows the installation of modular container weapons, including for launching Caliber cruise missiles.

          The decision to build ave. 22160 was made in 2014. To date, the Navy has taken two ships. There are no container weapon systems for them. There is a module with diving equipment, the GAS module is in development (the own GAS 22160 is not designed for PLO, but only for anti-sabotage work).
          So the only weapon of the patrolmen is the built-in one. According to which they are inferior even to the old Soviet IPC (except for the helicopter). These are the "doves of peace".
          However, nothing surprising. After all, pr. 22160 was not originally designed for the Navy, but for the FSB. And the main thing for PSKR Bokhr was not armament, but seaworthiness, autonomy, and the convenience of landing inspection teams.
      3. Eskobar
        Eskobar April 18 2020 15: 43 New
        0
        It is not enough to lay down, they still need to be handed over to the fleet without jambs, and it is advisable not when they already require modernization
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 31 March 2020 09: 38 New
      +1
      such optimism and small spoons (with minuses) are better than "white elephants" in 100 thousand tons "Leaders"
    3. Vadim777
      Vadim777 31 March 2020 10: 18 New
      -9
      Typo - 2047
  2. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 31 March 2020 09: 13 New
    +3

    Are needed! We wait . The Black Sea Fleet must be modern, powerful. Sword and shield of Russia.
  3. fa2998
    fa2998 31 March 2020 09: 17 New
    -3
    In Russian, the word "destroyer" will soon become obsolete and withdrawn from use. Since there are no destroyers in the ranks, we will abandon the term. request hi
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 31 March 2020 09: 43 New
      +8
      Quote: fa2998
      the word "destroyer" will soon become obsolete

      In fact, it's already about 70 years old. Now all ships are armed with torpedoes, but there are no ships in which torpedoes would be the main weapon.
  4. Andrey Mikhaylov
    Andrey Mikhaylov 31 March 2020 09: 19 New
    +3
    Great news, still a series of 12 ships would be mutilated.
  5. Mitroha
    Mitroha 31 March 2020 09: 22 New
    +2
    I do not quite understand, it was decided to build the project 22350M, and the fleet will be replenished with the project 22350? So all the same, how? Or mortgaged / existing will be transferred to the Black Sea Fleet, and the new 22350M in the TF and SF?
    1. Ru_Na
      Ru_Na 31 March 2020 09: 39 New
      +5
      Not really, the laid 4 frigates will go to the Northern Fleet, two more to the Pacific Fleet, those that plan to lay this year also planned for the Pacific Fleet, but now they will apparently be sent to the Black Sea Fleet! 22350M in the amount of 12 pieces is likely to be distributed between the SF and Pacific Fleet!
      1. Aleksandr21
        Aleksandr21 31 March 2020 09: 47 New
        -3
        Quote: Ru_Na
        Not really, the laid 4 frigates will go to the Northern Fleet, two more to the Pacific Fleet, those that plan to lay this year also planned for the Pacific Fleet, but now they will apparently be sent to the Black Sea Fleet! 22350M in the amount of 12 pieces is likely to be distributed between the SF and Pacific Fleet!


        22350М at the moment with a pitchfork, as there are no orders yet, and it is not clear whether the technical appearance has been completed ... but the main danger for the 22350M project is a decrease in budget revenues :( (drop in oil / gas prices), so the fate of project 22350M is in question.
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 31 March 2020 10: 07 New
          +7
          Work on the 22350M project. The only project of promising surface ships of the 1st rank (destroyers with a displacement of 7 tons) cannot be called into question.
          1. Aleksandr21
            Aleksandr21 31 March 2020 10: 14 New
            0
            Maxim all depends on the budget, now there is a financial crisis in the world, oil / gas prices have seriously fallen, and this is very strongly reflected in our income and social obligations of the state. So a lot will depend on the state of our economy and the decision to build 22350M in the near future. While there are no orders, this is a fact. This is how I will be so happy with you together, but I don’t see the point of guessing. The fact that the 22350M is needed is without question, Soviet ships of the 1st rank are not eternal ....
            1. Sky strike fighter
              Sky strike fighter 31 March 2020 10: 28 New
              +2
              While there is no finished project 22350M, there is no order so far.
              1. Aleksandr21
                Aleksandr21 31 March 2020 10: 36 New
                +2
                The project is half the trouble, even if it is announced tomorrow that they have completed the technical project, funds must be allocated for the construction of the head frigate, and in the current conditions this can be problematic. Yes, and the 22350 series is under construction, is there free capacity for the 22350M? Let's see, of course, people just write about the 22350M as an accomplished fact, but in fact all these are plans that can come true, and there are enough pitfalls here.
                1. Sky strike fighter
                  Sky strike fighter 31 March 2020 10: 42 New
                  +2
                  in the current context, this can be problematic.

                  In what current conditions? In a month or two, the story of the coronavirus will end. The American shale oil bankrupt will go bankrupt, you see, and oil will grow. All these are temporary difficulties.
                  1. Aleksandr21
                    Aleksandr21 31 March 2020 10: 50 New
                    0
                    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
                    In what current conditions? In a month or two, the story of the coronavirus will end. The American shale oil bankrupt will go bankrupt, you see, and oil will grow. All these are temporary difficulties.


                    Temporary difficulties, the concept is extensible ... even if after 2 months the situation with coronavirus ends successfully, then the consequences of this will still be felt for a long time, look now at the EU, how quickly will they recover? This is not a month or two, and it is not known how severe a blow will be to the US economy, so it is quite possible that 1-2 years will be spent on correcting the consequences and oil / gas prices will accordingly be at their minimum all this time. Since rising energy prices must rely on something ...
                  2. alexmach
                    alexmach 31 March 2020 12: 26 New
                    +3
                    In a month or two, the story of the coronavirus will end

                    or in a year or two .. or not complete.
                    1. Sky strike fighter
                      Sky strike fighter 31 March 2020 13: 26 New
                      -3
                      Quote: alexmach
                      In a month or two, the story of the coronavirus will end

                      or in a year or two .. or not complete.

                      Come on. A much larger Spaniard, which raged 100 years ago, lasted 1,5 years, although tens of millions of people died then. By the way, the Spaniard also started in the USA, like the current coronovirus.
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 31 March 2020 15: 11 New
                        +2
                        Then there were no quarantine measures that are now aimed at slowing down the spread. Well, the price that the Spanish woman took was huge. If this were to happen again, then there would definitely be no quick response of the economy to previous positions.

                        Well, we have already written above, even if it ends according to a "positive scenario" in a couple of months (I would like to have enough of it), the economic consequences of this will still last for years.
                      2. Bat039
                        Bat039 31 March 2020 20: 01 New
                        +2
                        People suffered from Spanish from 1918 to 1922, and some outbreaks occurred later. The active epidemic lasted about 3 years. It’s just that the first outbreak of the Spanish woman was not so deadly, then the virus mutated and almost two years raged like the Plague.
          2. Nemchinov Vl
            Nemchinov Vl 25 May 2020 14: 15 New
            0
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            The only project of promising surface ships of the 1st rank (destroyers with a displacement of 7 tons) cannot be called into question.
            no-aa-eaa ... With us - it CAN (!!!)
        2. Eskobar
          Eskobar April 18 2020 15: 45 New
          +1
          Yes, we have the development of any industry in the price of oil / gas rests
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 31 March 2020 12: 21 New
        +1
        what they plan to lay this year, they also planned for the Pacific Fleet, but now, apparently, they will be sent to the Black Sea Fleet!

        The strange decision especially takes into account the situation with the naval staff at the Pacific Fleet.
    2. Bat039
      Bat039 31 March 2020 19: 47 New
      +2
      In fact, the last 2 frigates already laid down, 22350, are already being built according to a modernized project, the number of launchers for anti-ship missiles on them has been increased from 16 units on the head `` Gorshkov '' to 24 units.
  6. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 31 March 2020 09: 34 New
    -1
    Quote: fa2998
    In Russian, the word "destroyer" will soon become obsolete and withdrawn from use

    And it sounds so beautiful! Is international terminology needed here? With whom from NATO to discuss anything about destroyers or frigates, corvettes, etc.?
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 31 March 2020 12: 28 New
      0
      Is international terminology needed here? With whom from NATO to discuss anything about destroyers or frigates, corvettes, etc.?

      And where is the international terminology then? Is this destroyer an international term or something?
  7. svp67
    svp67 31 March 2020 09: 37 New
    +5
    For the Black Sea, ships are TOTALLY good, but why do not they want to build them on the capacities of the Crimea?
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 31 March 2020 09: 46 New
      +6
      Quote: svp67
      that's just why they don’t want to build them on the capacities of Crimea

      The question is whether they can do it in Crimea - after all, 20 years of independence. However, they want to build a UDC at the Zaliv shipyard, so they may simply not be able to pull everything at once.
      1. svp67
        svp67 31 March 2020 09: 53 New
        +8
        Quote: Dart2027
        However, they want to build a UDC at the Zaliv shipyard, so they may simply not be able to pull everything at once.

        After watching this video, something tells me that there are "hidden reserves" at this plant, there are ...
        1. Rakovor
          Rakovor 31 March 2020 11: 03 New
          -4
          It looks like there are no reserves, even if only buildings are being built at the "Karakurt", and then sent to St. Petersburg for completion.
        2. Dart2027
          Dart2027 31 March 2020 12: 37 New
          0
          Quote: svp67
          that is, this plant has "hidden reserves"

          Maybe.
    2. leonid-zherebtcov
      leonid-zherebtcov 31 March 2020 13: 15 New
      0
      Probably because they decided to build landing helicopter carriers in Crimea ... (rumored to be unverified ...)
  8. Protos
    Protos 31 March 2020 10: 30 New
    -4
    Quote: Vadim777
    Typo - 2047

    Wet mriy? lol
  9. fa2998
    fa2998 31 March 2020 11: 06 New
    -1
    Quote: Dart2027
    Quote: fa2998
    the word "destroyer" will soon become obsolete

    In fact, it's already about 70 years old. Now all ships are armed with torpedoes, but there are no ships in which torpedoes would be the main weapon.

    You know, maybe your words didn’t reach others, but the destroyers are being built by the Chinese, Japanese, Americans, the base of the fleet of foreign countries. And we will soon rearm on boats.
    Yes, the destroyers are no longer those that were in the middle of the 20th century, but they have a niche. hi
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 31 March 2020 12: 41 New
      -2
      Quote: fa2998
      but destroyers are built by the Chinese, Japanese, Americans, the base of the fleet of foreign countries

      First-class ships, which are called destroyers, are being built, but the word destroyer is already unsuitable for them.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 31 March 2020 15: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: fa2998
      You know, maybe your words didn’t reach others, but the destroyers are being built by the Chinese, Japanese, Americans, the base of the fleet of foreign countries

      This is not a question of construction, but of terminology. The very term "destroyer" - destroyer - has long been outdated, since mine (more precisely, torpedo) weapons on these ships have long since passed from the "main caliber" to the auxiliary (PLO). Dashing torpedo attacks will be gone.
      Adversaries are easier - they have not a destroyer, but a destroyer. And with destroy, these ships are all right - on water, under water, on land and in the air. smile
    3. Eskobar
      Eskobar April 18 2020 15: 48 New
      +1
      But we do have a raptor boat. Already in a couple of dozen tones with displacement, and not even one!
  10. Incompetent
    Incompetent 31 March 2020 12: 01 New
    +2
    Oooh, the news is certainly not bad. But these frigates need 8 pieces to the north and 6 pieces to the rest of the fleet so that at least something would be felt, and this is 26 frigates! Not to mention the destroyers .. I'm 29 years old, will I live to such a wonderful moment ..)))
  11. musorg
    musorg 31 March 2020 12: 04 New
    -1
    The question is when?
  12. IC
    IC April 2 2020 15: 48 New
    -1
    In the current economic situation, most likely, all plans and schedules for the construction of new ships will be disrupted.