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Sohu names five factors “low pace” production of J-20 fighters

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Sohu names five factors “low pace” production of J-20 fighters

Chinese experts announced the "low" pace of mass production of J-20 fighters, which in the PRC are classified as new generation combat aircraft. At the same time, attempts to understand why the industry cannot reach the production volumes “which are needed by the PLA Air Force for a complete renewal of the fleet” are demonstrated.


In Chinese Sohu they write that the problems with the pace of production of J-20 fighters are associated with five main factors. The first factor is the lack of a program for the possible export of fighters.

From the article:

It is very important that while the country can not sell it abroad. So far, the aircraft has too many critical, secret technologies that do not allow the program to go into partial export mode. At the same time, manufacturers incur too high costs, high production costs. This by definition affects the pace of production of the J-20.

The second factor the author calls engines. It is noted that China is developing its own engines, but the dependence on Russian-made engines is still great.

From the material:

Against the background of the development of their aviation It is necessary to ensure that the supply of engines from Russia is stable.

The author sees the third factor of “insufficient” production volumes as long as the J-20 radars have not reached the level that could provide an advantage over the aircraft of a potential enemy. At the same time, Sohu says that in this case the problem will be overcome quickly, as "the industry for creating a new generation of radar in China is developing rapidly."

The fourth and fifth factors are problems with materials and the selection of composites. The author believes that China has so far limited production of composite materials that could be used in aircraft construction with respect to fifth-generation fighters. According to the author in Sohu, there are problems in the optimal parameters for using titanium alloy in the production of J-20.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 31 March 2020 09: 00 New
    +3
    Sohu names five factors “low pace” production of J-20 fighters
    Pull everything on the coronavirus and the uniform will shine. repeat
  2. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 31 March 2020 09: 03 New
    +7
    Well, the very plane itself was blown away, according to the Chinese edition of the super prodigy, it is superior to f-35 and f-22 and su -57 and here it is, they (the Chinese) should not muddle someone else’s mud before praising their swamp, in the country where Xerox works exclusively and there are no technologies of its own, it’s not worth building a jump out of yourself!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 31 March 2020 12: 13 New
      +2
      One combat squadron J-20 is already in operation, the second is being formed.
      The release is estimated to be 2 per month.
      This is small compared with the F-35 - 16 per month. But also not bad.
  3. Altona
    Altona 31 March 2020 09: 04 New
    +2
    Interesting revelations in the article. But what is already flying, was it created so to speak with "bypass technologies", that is, with temporarily replaced materials and components, so to speak with elements of the "first stage"? I thought that the Chinese had already worked out their design (well, in terms of electronics, at least they wow) and would soon be releasing their planes like hot cakes.
    1. Avior
      Avior 31 March 2020 09: 15 New
      0
      There is another nuance in the article.
      . the aircraft has too many critical, secret technologies that do not allow the program to go into partial export mode.

      It says that there are also proprietary technologies, and not just copied ones
      1. Fantazer911
        Fantazer911 31 March 2020 16: 37 New
        0
        Most likely the technology is stolen, and if it crawls out, stolen, then all the agents will fall in and the Chinese breakthrough will end!
  4. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 31 March 2020 09: 11 New
    +1
    And how many pieces have already been plastered at such a "low rate"?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 31 March 2020 09: 46 New
      +3
      At the October parade flew 5 combatant.




      From 20 to 28, according to the estimates of the Chinese, they were transferred to the troops. But the photo is no longer in frame 3 (well, in parade 5).
  5. Cowbra
    Cowbra 31 March 2020 09: 17 New
    -1
    At the same time, manufacturers incur too high costs, high production costs.

    And I said more than once - not a single country is capable of pulling a fifth-generation airplane alone.
  6. svp67
    svp67 31 March 2020 09: 23 New
    +2
    The first factor is the lack of a program for the possible export of fighters.
    What are you? Why are you so rich, and it’s hard without export?
    1. Altona
      Altona 31 March 2020 09: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      What are you? Why are you so rich, and it’s hard without export?

      ----------------------
      But China is a world factory. He has no allies with whom, by hook or by crook, he can equip weapons in exchange for something necessary, although outwardly they are communists. I mean, the manufacturing company is forced to rely only on its working capital. And then there is still a huge R&D with a bunch of technologies that are indicated in the article-composites, radars, engines and te-pe and te-de. Costly however.
      1. svp67
        svp67 31 March 2020 10: 05 New
        0
        Quote: Altona
        I mean, the manufacturing company is forced to rely only on its working capital.

        Do they, and indeed everywhere else, do the state help in any way?
    2. knn54
      knn54 31 March 2020 11: 08 New
      +3
      As in a joke:
      -Really so "elusive"?
      -It's easier, nobody needs anyone.
  7. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 31 March 2020 09: 55 New
    -1
    Well, it’s necessary, eh? With so many problems, and already in the series and the best in the world, and if all the jambs are corrected, then finally it will be "super duper". And the most important sadness - no one needs it - that's why they don't buy.
    1. Pathos
      Pathos 31 March 2020 11: 01 New
      0
      And they won’t buy anything except the glider, pay attention to the nozzles of the UVT engines, and there is no decrease in visibility in the infrared, so the Chinese prodigy of the wunderwaffe is not covered. laughing
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 31 March 2020 09: 56 New
    +2
    For export it is impossible - secretly, for engines they depend on Russia, the radar of the "wrong system" and finally problems with composite materials. Finally, Sohu began to really look at individual things, and not extol Chinese technology to the skies. You need to be simpler guys, and then people will reach out to you.
  9. Maks1995
    Maks1995 31 March 2020 10: 00 New
    -3
    So these same factors are with us. except for radars, sort of. No wonder.
    But they have done 20 pieces and it seems already in the troops. And we have 14 pcs and in trials.
    About the same ....
  10. Mentat
    Mentat 31 March 2020 11: 47 New
    +2
    Against the background of the development of their aircraft engines, it is necessary to ensure that the supply of engines from Russia is carried out stably.

    Wait, they’ve already built their magnificent engines, "which surpass Russian ones in a number of parameters." Turns out it was such a joke? No one is superior, but on the contrary, and it is necessary to "stably deliver"?
  11. Mentat
    Mentat 31 March 2020 11: 50 New
    0
    Quote: Avior
    There is another nuance in the article.
    . the aircraft has too many critical, secret technologies that do not allow the program to go into partial export mode.

    It says that there are also proprietary technologies, and not just copied ones

    It only says that this is the Chinese explanation why no one is eager to buy their planes.