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Crowning, or Doubt that everything is going according to plan

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So, the first week is coming from the coming of the coronavirus to Russia. And in this regard, I want to give out another dose of confident criticism of everything and everyone. Starting from the government, showing just miracles of politeness and ending with the people, showing indifference.


The country is slowly but surely rolling in tartarara. This is a fact, and perhaps soon we will not differ from Italy. The authorities demonstrate utter powerlessness, and the people, who as a whole saw this power, demonstrate complete disregard for all decrees and orders.

It would seem that it’s difficult: to sit at home if you don’t work? This is especially true for pensioners. This category will definitely drive us into the coffin, and only Mrs. Skvortsova can compete with them. But pensioners will crush the mass.

In general, sometimes it seems to me that we are participants in some terrible experiment. And the experiment is just like from a Hollywood movie about the zombie apocalypse.

What started when we started talking about the threat of an epidemic, I hope everyone remembers. Buckwheat, rice, pasta and toilet paper. The latter was perplexing to everyone.

And everything turned out to be very simple. Gentlemen, pensioners watch the First Channel, because only there (according to many of my respondents) you can take reliable information. And on the First they showed how they bought paper in China and the USA.

Everyone rushed to buy, but no one dared to think why.

And one Chinese woman told me in three words. I will tell those who are not in the know. The Chinese were ordered to go out with a roll of toilet paper and a bag. We have to take the door handle - tore off a piece of paper, wrapped it, opened it, threw it into a bag on its belt. And so on the whole route, it was time to come out on business.

Gloves are a good thing. But you can get carried away and, for example, scratch your nose. And hello from the virus. And so - constantly everything is clean.

So did the Chinese. And ours just dared everything. Without bothering yourself with a thought, why all this. All grab - and we grab.

Then a certain person from the Ministry of Health appeared on TV and said that ibuprofen is the very thing for the treatment of coronavirus. Ibuprofen is gone in my city. Then two days later, a WHO representative spoke and said that ibuprofen is not at all what it is, it is dangerous, it is better to paracetamol. Paracetamol was extinct, it is still not there, well, only in expensive forms.

Then came the time for prevention recommendations. Again, it was said in the zombie box that ginger root and lemon could protect against coronavirus. Bacchanalia began again, ginger jumped from 400 rubles per kilogram to 2500 per day. Lemon is more modest, “only” from 100 to 400. Although, for some reason, Magnet did not join the price race, and it still stands there 98 rubles per kilo.

We bet that goods will become a new “obstacle” to the fight against coronavirus. More precisely, the wallets of the weak on the influence of the TV will still facilitate. But, apparently, there is still a reserve for money. There are, accordingly, things to work on.

Masks have also become a business item. From 5 to 45 rubles is not bad. We have trouble in the country, which means we need to make money out of trouble.

“Market” and “lack of conscience” are synonyms of today.

The most interesting thing is that the authorities are not able to do anything at all. No, in administrations and hospitals there are endless meetings, meetings, conferences, but in fact - puffing out cheeks and simulating intense activity.

Drive home almost succeeded. The streets of the city really emptied simultaneously with parking in the yards. That is, it turns out that the loafers, who arranged 80% of the traffic jams, suddenly evaporated from the city. Not bad. But the huge number of pensioners who sit on benches in the parks is annoying. Well, they said to sit at home, well, what is not clear? There are no Umbrellas on you ...

But the main thing is hospitals. Our last hope and stronghold. Doctors, who, in which case, will have to pump us out / save us and everything else.

You know, I am pleased to note the fact that at some time the doctor has become more important and more important than a pop singer, a football player. How long?

We receive letters to the editor. From the doctors. It is nice, of course, that the publication enjoys a reputation for being unbiased and independent, but what if the letters are in vain and publishing all of them just does not make sense, since the original is mat-remath and everything is the same?

I would note the cry of the soul from Novocherkassk, Rostov Region. From the local BSMP. As an example of what is happening behind the rainbow reports of Channel One. About the report a little later, but for now to the letter.

BSMP. Emergency Hospital.

“On TV, we see and hear reports that our healthcare system is intensely preparing for a meeting with a dangerous virus, that enormous funds are allocated for the purchase of medicines, ventilation devices, and protective equipment for medical workers throughout our vast country to adequately meet a dangerous enemy carrying threat to the lives of our citizens. And what really is?

In our city with a population of about 250 thousand inhabitants, the capital of the Don Cossacks, they are not very ready for this battle ... In our municipal enterprise, an emergency medical hospital, they cannot (or do not want?) Provide even medical workers - fighters with basic means of protection front line ... There are not enough gloves, no masks, and, most importantly, no plague costumes !!! Only 10 were allocated to the entire hospital!

We were offered to purchase these costumes ourselves ... BY DESIRE!

And the cost of only one such suit is equal to the entire monthly salary of a nurse !!!

So we think: if you buy a suit, in order to somehow protect yourself and not infect your loved ones with a dangerous virus, then on what means do you live for a month? Few of the health workers have any savings in such a case ... How to be? Who do we hope for?

We were already told at the meeting that our hospital (BSMP) will definitely accept patients with coronavirus if this happens in our city.

But the infectious diseases hospital in Novocherkassk will not accept any seriously ill patients, because it is not equipped with mechanical ventilation devices, nor patients with even a simple form of infection ... ARE WE READY FOR THIS?

We were also informed that if patients with coronavirus came to us, then every shift that received such a patient would then be required to remain in quarantine in the hospital for 14 days (!) And where is the place for all employees? They are not.

With ventilation devices, things are also not very good. There are only 6 of them, 2 of which cannot cope with the load (in fact - they are practically inoperative).

Do not think that we are panicking. All medical personnel BSMP Novocherkassk configured in combat. But help us, and we will take full care of the sick. Who will take care of us? Chief Physician? City administration? Governor of the Rostov region? Ministry of Health? We don’t know what to do ...

The chief physician of the BSMP of Novocherkassk, Boris Yevgenyevich Gurkin, solves such questions simply: he handed out personal protective equipment items to the medical staff of each department of the PRICE-LIST hospital (!) ... Rescue of drowning people is the work of the drowning themselves ??? ”


By the way, in my Voronezh they found an original way out. "Wool" the hospital. For example, maternity hospital No. 2 donated 5 (five) brand-new mechanical ventilation machines to the fund to fight against coronavirus.

They do not need the maternity hospital at all, babies do not need these devices, they are nursed in reaboxes.

Paradox, but useful (God forbid, of course). Well, that is. Five devices - you yourself understand how many lives are saved.

And above, the bacchanalia continues.

At the end of the text, I will give a link to the video, which we will not be able to publish due to the presence of obscene language. The ambulance doctor expressed himself at Veronika Skvortsova.

Yes, the former minister is now the head of the FMBA. Very warm armchair.

What is FMBA? The Federal Biomedical Agency is a federal executive body administered by the Russian government. Carries out the functions of control and supervision in the field of sanitary and epidemiological welfare of employees of organizations of certain industries with especially dangerous working conditions and the population of certain territories, enforcement functions and functions of providing public services and managing state property in the field of health care for employees of organizations of certain industries with especially dangerous working conditions and the population of certain territories.

That is, an organ that today must plow 24/7 in order to stop the spread of coronavirus.

So what did Mrs. Skvortsova do, which in medical circles is called the “gravedigger of medicine”?

Oh, she presented some new “unparalleled in the world” ventilation device, which can be connected to up to four people!

In general, I have no other word, like "nonsense, designed for a wide audience of the like." A doctor who comments on Skvortsova’s presentation video is much cooler. In principle, it’s not a secret for anyone that Mrs. Skvortsova, as it were, to put it mildly, does not shine with achievements. But loyal and ideologically savvy. This is the problem.

As a person familiar with medicine, I understand that connecting four people to one ventilator at once is nonsense for viewers and consumers of Channel One. The problem lies in the synchronization of oxygen supply, not only in the time period for all four patients, but also in its quantity.

I translate: someone does not have enough oxygen to fill the lungs, and someone will be at risk of lung rupture. Of course, you can put a regulator of the “crane” type and manually select the quantity. Most likely, this is done, because in the “super device”, apart from the idea of ​​a splitter, I could not see anything.

It’s simpler and smarter to release four devices for four different people than it is not clear how to synchronize Skvortsova’s IVL for four people.

I honestly wouldn’t want to be that third or fourth.

And in the end a few words about the so-called "week of struggle". When, in theory, everyone who is not engaged in primary work should sit at home.

It is very pleasant to watch how everyone rushed headlong to obey the order. It is clear that initially the idea was crooked, like our life, but I will devote the following material to the idea itself.

But the number of people who did not want to fight coronavirus by self-isolation at their own expense gives a firm belief that everything will be as it should. That is, we are ill. Not all, obviously, but there is no other way.

To be continued, dear readers. It cannot but follow. In one part, it’s not possible to fit everything in any way, so we will devote the following material to the economic component, and then there will be another part with the comments of the doctors.
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  1. Mitroha
    Mitroha April 1 2020 15: 11 New
    27
    Health to all. And the rest is passing.
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r April 1 2020 17: 04 New
      33
      “Market” and “lack of conscience” are synonyms of today.

      These are synonyms of the eternal, past, present and future! There is no crime that business would not dare if the profit is 300%! C.Marx (s)
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        1. LeonidL
          LeonidL April 1 2020 18: 48 New
          -12
          "The country is slowly but very confidently heading for tartar. This is a fact, and perhaps soon we will not be any different from Italy. The authorities are demonstrating complete impotence ..." - the author is easy to calculate ... Everything is a scoundrel, what about the Fleet, what about Power. Soon the slogan will be thrown out: "All power to Comrade Skomorokhov and Mr. Timokhin! And whoever does not agree is a byaka, a Putinist, not a patriot and so silly, you absolutely understand without brains." Only now people are in power, they are doing business, they have taken out the country from one shit and now they are pulling it out of another, and the authors of VO only translate ink. Counselors, well-wishers, feather-winners ...
          1. Mestny
            Mestny April 1 2020 20: 00 New
            -36
            The farther, the clearer: Internet Communists are not just clowns, they are real enemies.
          2. Albert1988
            Albert1988 April 1 2020 21: 30 New
            21
            What can I say? I don't understand where many of the lamentations of the "author" of this opus come from - I will say, using the example of my city, all the parks were closed - in the literal sense of the word, people from the street were blown away, parking lots were just packed, traffic on the roads fell at rush hour to Saturday in the morning ... So no "retirees in the parks".

            Now, with regard to medicine - so even the most medical medicine in the world were not ready for such a development! What can we say about our ...

            As for the disease itself, that is, there are very serious suspicions that the detected cases are 10-15 percent of the total number of patients, it’s just that 80-90 percent go so that they don’t even notice ...
          3. New Year day
            New Year day April 1 2020 22: 39 New
            80
            Quote: LeonidL
            This is a fact, and perhaps soon we will not differ from Italy. Power demonstrates utter powerlessness ...

            as working in the outbreak of the virus, I can say that your bravado is out of place. You know that doctors working with patients are confronted with the choice of either useless masks or respirators at their own expense. One respirator per day 1400 rubles.
            Did you know that those working with coronaries are not paid the appropriate money, but they promise.
            Do you know that the dismissal of doctors began, who did not want to expose their lives and the lives of their children because of the mess arranged by Skvortsova?
            Did you know. that to date 63 doctors working with coronavirus have died in Italy?
            Did you know that in recent years only infectious diseases hospitals in the country have been reduced by 1/3, doctors, and nurses and nurses from 2 million to 1,3 million?
            Do you know that at the moment of pneumonia surgeons, gynecologists, neurologists and doctors of other specialties are treated, far from the treatment of pulmonary pathology?
            Do you know that doctors simply do not have enough to fight against coronavirus and NO one is going to die voluntarily?
            Quote: LeonidL
            country pulled out one shit and now pulled out of another

            into which she herself immersed!
            Who ruined medicine? Trump?
            1. depressant
              depressant April 1 2020 23: 59 New
              23
              Dr. Sylvester, hold on!
              May the Lord give you all this! Health to you and recovery to your patients! hi love
              1. Ilya-spb
                Ilya-spb April 2 2020 08: 24 New
                +4
                Once again I was convinced that Roman Skomorokhov is a skilled alarmist.

                He pulled on facts, from ibuprofen to lemons, wrote that "we are going to hell." The latter seems to be the main message from Roman.

                Would you slow down, Roman?
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                3. stalki
                  stalki April 2 2020 13: 38 New
                  +1
                  Once again I was convinced that Roman Skomorokhov is a skilled alarmist.

                  He pulled on facts, from ibuprofen to lemons, wrote that "we are going to hell." The latter seems to be the main message from Roman.

                  Would you slow down, Roman?
                  I agree with you, in the appendage a link to an objective opinion
                  https://www.inpearls.ru/1394982
                4. Ivan Kolodin
                  Ivan Kolodin April 2 2020 13: 42 New
                  -2
                  And it’s not time for you to clean your pink glasses, it seems to me that they have fogged up your ass from the pressure of power
                  1. Ilya-spb
                    Ilya-spb April 2 2020 14: 12 New
                    +4
                    Are you a navalonok or a hodorkusha?))) Or just a fan of R. Skomorokhov?
                    1. Ivan Kolodin
                      Ivan Kolodin April 2 2020 16: 29 New
                      -5
                      You are a young man on a salary betraying the country, or just a lover of Chubais, and Serdyukov, justification
                      mine is for you, now refute or apologize, it was your Putin Chubais and Serdyukov who made everyone know that they are thieves and traitors .... And who supports them is the same .... Now let's get your tongue out and protect even the thief .... But we will remember people like you .... How much the State Department pays confess come on ....
                5. 16329
                  16329 April 2 2020 21: 18 New
                  +5
                  Absolutely stupid article, why is this published here, especially amused about the toilet paper and the Chinese.
                  Paper began to be bought in Europe, in particular in Germany, in large numbers
                  Nobody opens the door handle with toilet paper, in general, that is, rubber gloves that are made in China
                  In Europe, too, many wear gloves in stores
                  Nobody bought up toilet paper in Russia, at least in St. Petersburg, it was a purely European joke, by the way, now it has appeared And of course it has risen in price several times, in Germany (NRV) flour reappeared, having risen in price more than 5 times, yeast went up somewhere 6-7 times
                  Why write such stupidly critical articles - just to use current difficulties to increase tension in society
                6. flicker
                  flicker April 3 2020 01: 41 New
                  +1
                  wrote that "we are going to hell"
                  If we roll, then what about the rest?
                  "Over the past three weeks, since March 11, 825 people have arrived in Russia ... among the returnees, many previously lived abroad permanently. But because of the coronavirus, they had problems with providing medical care, and the Russians decided to return to the country. "
            2. Russian jacket
              Russian jacket April 2 2020 06: 29 New
              +8
              Sylvester! My respect and respect, do your job !!!!! hi
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek April 2 2020 17: 25 New
                11
                Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                Sylvester! My respect and respect, do your job !!!!! hi

                would you be in no hurry ... they are in every epicenter in every question !!! wink laughing # thermionivirusologists !!! wassat lol
                1. Lynx-z
                  Lynx-z April 3 2020 09: 07 New
                  0
                  "I am the daughter of an officer and not everything is clear" are you talking about that?)
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek April 4 2020 04: 09 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Lynx-Z
                    "I am the daughter of an officer and not everything is clear" are you talking about that?)

                    what TYPE TAGO !!! lol wassat
              2. flicker
                flicker April 3 2020 01: 43 New
                +2
                Sylvester! My respect and respect, do your job !!!!!
                Moreover, there will be more work: "Over the past three weeks, since March 11, 825 people have arrived in Russia ... among the returnees, many used to permanently reside abroad. But because of the coronavirus, they have problems with providing medical care. and the Russians decided to return to the country. "
            3. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 April 2 2020 07: 52 New
              +1
              Quote: Silvestr
              useless masks, or respirators at their own expense. One respirator per day 1400 rubles.

              gas masks are much more efficient and reusable laughing
              Quote: Silvestr
              Did you know that those working with coronaries are not paid the appropriate money, but they promise.

              And the concept of debt wassat ??
              Quote: Silvestr
              Do you know that the dismissal of doctors who did not want to expose their lives and the lives of their children because of the mess arranged by Skvortsova

              it’s not clear who is to blame - Skvortsova or the doctors?
              Quote: Silvestr
              Did you know. that to date 63 doctors working with coronavirus have died in Italy?

              if possible, then more on that ... To be objective, it is necessary to compare how many doctors who do not work with coronavirus patients died, and how many doctors die on average during this period of the year in this area, as well as how many real doctors and how many paramedics are there? ?
              Quote: Silvestr
              Did you know that in recent years only infectious diseases hospitals in the country have been reduced by 1/3, doctors, and nurses and nurses from 2 million to 1,3 million?

              Is it about Italy or Russia ??? Who is to blame and what to do??? eternal questions smile
              Quote: Silvestr
              Do you know that doctors simply do not have enough to fight against coronavirus and NO one is going to die voluntarily?

              there is a suggestion: check all Russian doctors for antibodies to coronavirus, if anyone has them, then they have already been ill, and mobilize them laughing smile
              1. Living7111972
                Living7111972 April 2 2020 11: 57 New
                -1
                Do not be ashamed to talk about duty ...
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 April 2 2020 12: 42 New
                  +5
                  Quote: sala7111972
                  Do not be ashamed to talk about duty ...

                  ashamed to forget about him
                  1. Ivan Kolodin
                    Ivan Kolodin April 2 2020 13: 45 New
                    -2
                    Maybe about the debt it is necessary for someone at the top to remember and not fill pockets to stupor
                    1. aybolyt678
                      aybolyt678 April 2 2020 17: 04 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Ivan Kolodin
                      Maybe about the debt it is necessary for someone at the top to remember and not fill pockets to stupor

                      +++ little to remember, an example must be set, as it should be for the Elite
                2. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek April 2 2020 17: 28 New
                  10
                  Quote: sala7111972
                  Do not be ashamed to talk about duty ...

                  when it comes to security officials, then it is not a shame "you" happen !!! negative and here, you see, they decided to put pressure on their conscience !!! wassat
              2. Jager
                Jager April 2 2020 12: 20 New
                +8
                Work in a gas mask for at least a couple of hours and see.
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 April 2 2020 12: 44 New
                  +3
                  Everyone knows that the mask is effective only on the sick! at least in the saliva, the virus gets stuck ..... A gas mask can be worn with direct manipulation. Ultraviolet is very effective. so no need to inflate problems
                  1. Sirocco
                    Sirocco April 2 2020 16: 46 New
                    +4
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    Everyone knows that the mask is effective only on the sick!

                    What surprises in this circus with coronavirus is that it turns out to be destroyed by washing hands, wiping door handles, and does not last long outdoors, that is, the sun beats it. The question is, are we back in the Middle Ages? there they fought with the plague by self-isolation, and it did not help, then, after all, medicine was not like today, but what we see, the alleged impotence of doctors and modern achievements in this area, okay. to hell with him with the fact that they are now hysterical. The question for me is the main one and it is not clear that the alleged infection with the virus came from the West, the girls are dancing interestingly, China began to "fight" the virus from November December, and in Buryatia at that time there were a lot of Chinese, and the infection of the Far East, Transbaikalia and Buryatia was not happened, these are the regions that directly border on China, and you see how tricky the virus is)))) At our work just in December there were ARVI diseases, I think everyone here has been ill and with immunity. In general, I was tired of this circus, it was boiling yesterday, but did not comment on these nonsense, but today I could not stand it. How is it that the virus came not from China through the Far East, but from the West ???????? Here is my opinion, the virus is an agreement of the world elite, they slow down the economy, and the crisis, and help from Italy, and the United States to our worst enemy, is confirmation of this.
                    1. aybolyt678
                      aybolyt678 April 2 2020 17: 09 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Sirocco
                      The question is, are we back in the Middle Ages?

                      Middle Ages is Strong !!!! drinks
                      Quote: Sirocco
                      supposedly powerlessness of physicians and modern achievements in this area,

                      I am struck by the lack of serums and immunoglobulins. In my experience, as a veterinarian virologist I worked with coronovirus dogs, getting serum is like two fingers on asphalt! what is the problem - silent!
                    2. nickname7
                      nickname7 April 4 2020 15: 22 New
                      0
                      The question is, are we back in the Middle Ages? self-isolation was fought with the plague, and it didn’t help,

                      What kind of stupidity you write, dear, in the Middle Ages, only the Venetians thought of isolation, and later, in the Middle Ages they fought for burning witches and their own immunity, who didn’t die survived, they had unhygienic sanitation, slop poured out the window, fly and scum, from which cities are empty of extinction.
                      1. Sirocco
                        Sirocco April 5 2020 15: 33 New
                        0
                        Quote: nickname7
                        What kind of stupidity you write, my dear,

                        You would google my friend first. Wikipedia will help you. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death
              3. Snusmumrik
                Snusmumrik April 2 2020 12: 21 New
                +2
                You have found fault with trifles and are trying to create the feeling that the article is completely false, that you should treat it with skeptical humor. Demagogic reception. Okay, suppose in Moscow and St. Petersburg more or less (I’m from St. Petersburg myself, but I personally don’t want to check the readiness of our hospitals.) But in fact - in our regions how are things going with medicine? And if the virus gets there too? And the budget surplus did not know what to do.
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 April 2 2020 17: 11 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Snusmumrik
                  You are picking on trifles and trying to create a feeling

                  all life is made up of little things, and the quality of life and the Great Troubles and Victories are all from them smile
              4. Ryaruav
                Ryaruav April 2 2020 18: 52 New
                0
                and the Sechins and others like him have the concept of debt or what?
            4. Pavel57
              Pavel57 April 2 2020 21: 03 New
              -2
              Medicine took money that officials and engaged merchants could use with great effect for their loved ones. Therefore, we have what we have.
            5. flicker
              flicker April 2 2020 23: 44 New
              +1
              as working in the outbreak of the virus
              If you can, then clarify what it means in the outbreak of the virus?
            6. Dmitry Taravan
              Dmitry Taravan April 3 2020 09: 27 New
              +2
              Yes, it's good to lie. He works in the "hearth" - in the country 2,5 people fell ill, but he found the "hearth".
            7. astronom1973n
              astronom1973n April 3 2020 12: 59 New
              +2
              So you wrote all this and then what? Do not fight the doctors with the virus and throw everything away, hide under the bed? It became scary. Poor little thing. Calm down, do not panic and do not declare incomprehensible facts, real doctors who are faithful to their duty will stand up and save. And you, at the time of difficult health tests. We will figure out everything else, and without your participation.
          4. Evgeniy-111
            Evgeniy-111 April 2 2020 00: 47 New
            +4
            And who is Timokhin?
          5. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 April 2 2020 22: 02 New
            +1
            Quote: LeonidL
            Power demonstrates complete impotence ... "

            That's right. It’s easier to drive people home and steal the economy than to isolate arrivals from abroad. Understand that it’s impossible to sit for a month and do nothing. Money is not taken from the air. China spent a month in quarantine and lost billions. And their economy is much stronger .In Germany, the Minister of Finance (apparently a county) shot himself-said that the economy does not raise ....
            1. flicker
              flicker April 3 2020 01: 53 New
              +2
              It’s easier to drive people home and drive away the economy than to isolate arrivals from abroad.
              Wow, the more they arrived:
              "Over the past three weeks, since March 11, 825 people have arrived in Russia ... among the returnees, many previously lived abroad permanently. But because of the coronavirus, they had problems with providing medical care, and the Russians decided to return to the country. "
              And what are they from the prosperous West rushed to the country, which is "going to hell"? request
            2. LeonidL
              LeonidL April 5 2020 17: 38 New
              +3
              Michael! Do not attribute to me Skomorokhov's quotes! The goal of his pack is to drive the wave. Alas, nothing but quarantine does not help yet. He contacted friends with retirees around the world - everyone is calm. Sarov - is in quarantine, Snezhinsk - in quarantine, Czech Republic - in strict quarantine, Munich - strict disciplined quarantine, Italy - they realized that it was time to end the stupidity before they died out and were not jerking, Chicago - quarantine, self-isolation from normal and stupidity inadequate, Florida - quarantine, self-isolation, beaches are closed, but inadequate make their way and frolic, resulting in the rapid growth of the sick! A curfew has been introduced - so far from 11 to 5 ... What should the Russian authorities water? They do everything that others are even better and more. But all sorts of throats are watered, the people are fed up ... However, now you can run into big trouble for these little articles.
          6. Bear52
            Bear52 April 5 2020 12: 21 New
            +3
            Yes. Besides, Roman's "acquaintance" with medicine raises my doubts.
            1. LeonidL
              LeonidL April 5 2020 17: 39 New
              +1
              You're right! These "ecyclopedists" know everything about everything from naval and army affairs to medicine and politics. But who thinks that he knows everything about everything, most likely does not know anything.
          7. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell April 6 2020 20: 54 New
            +2
            Quote: LeonidL
            soon we will not differ from Italy ....

            I still wildly apologize, but in Italy prices are not rising; gasoline has also fallen in price.
            1. LeonidL
              LeonidL April 7 2020 20: 47 New
              +1
              I wildly apologize - this is part of Skomorokhov's quote, not my words.
              1. Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell April 7 2020 20: 57 New
                +3
                Leonid, God be with you, I'm not in a complaint. Again, I wildly apologize, but I will say an seditious thought: there are too many policies and pr-manipulations in sending the Russian contingent to Italy. Ordinary Italians are grateful and will remember, like the Chinese, Cubans, Germans, non-French: I hope all Russians will return home safely, and everything else will remain on the conscience of politicians
                1. LeonidL
                  LeonidL April 7 2020 21: 00 New
                  +1
                  I agree! In addition, as in Syria, it is checked in conditions as close as possible to combat equipment, people and organization of services. This is an invaluable experience, which is possible (God forbid!), But can be useful in Russia as well. After all, we do not know much of what is known "at the top", but why else would it be necessary to urgently build 16 huge military hospitals throughout the country?
                  1. Pete mitchell
                    Pete mitchell April 8 2020 03: 15 New
                    +2
                    Quote: LeonidL
                    We don’t know much of the famous ....

                    In Italy, only yesterday, and quarantine began on the 10th it seems Reproductive properties of the virus fell to a factor of 1, started at 3. If less than 1 the epidemic itself dies out, there is much to be done ..
                    Quote: LeonidL
                    This is an invaluable experience that is possible (God forbid!), But can be useful in Russia too ...
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      1. codetalker
        codetalker April 1 2020 18: 44 New
        -13
        Nonsense in the article starts right from the very beginning ... people’s ability to pass off their wild fantasies as “facts” has always been impressive. And frankly, with pressure, adding "this is a fact!" ...
        1. flicker
          flicker April 3 2020 01: 56 New
          +3
          the ability of people to pass off their wild fantasies as “facts” has always been impressive.
          For some, a pandemic, and for some, business bully
      2. Mestny
        Mestny April 1 2020 20: 03 New
        -21
        These are characters from the series "the worse, the better" and "all means are good in the struggle for power."
        That is how their great leader bequeathed. People for them are material for purposes - of course, great and noble.
        1. fleks
          fleks April 2 2020 07: 34 New
          +1
          And to nullify oil and gas. And after them both our incomes and life is such a cleverly clever plan of Sechin-Putin?
        2. Ivan Kolodin
          Ivan Kolodin April 2 2020 13: 48 New
          0
          You pretend to be a fool, or you still get paid for it ....
    3. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert April 2 2020 06: 39 New
      17
      The virus itself is not scary.
      And the consequences of fighting him ...
      There is a good joke on the topic:
      “Tell me, Rebe, will there be a war?”
      - No, there will be no war, but there will be such a struggle for peace that there will be no stone unturned ... wink
  2. Svarog
    Svarog April 1 2020 15: 13 New
    29
    As usual, it’s hard to disagree with Roman .. This is the case and it is alarming that the growth rate of patients with the disease repeats the Italian version .. one can only hope that the mortality rate will not be so high .. although there is little hope, equipment and medical staff are needed. coordination of actions .. And indeed, now the world will understand that a doctor is much more important than a crooked (in our case) football player ..
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 April 1 2020 15: 24 New
      54
      The experience of China and the bourgeois has shown very clearly that only socialism can effectively cope with disasters of a national scale. For obvious reasons. And our whole life is a complete disaster, so we have no other options. We want to survive - we must return Soviet power. And no other way.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog April 1 2020 15: 26 New
        43
        Quote: paul3390
        We want to survive - we must return Soviet power. And no other way.

        Definitely .. An organized society, which can only be under socialism, confronts any threats much more effectively than what we are now observing and where each is for itself and a self-isolated state ..
        1. military_cat
          military_cat April 1 2020 15: 36 New
          -16
          Quote: Svarog
          An organized society, which can only be under socialism, confronts any threats much more effectively.

          Where was this effectiveness in confronting the threat of the collapse of their own country?
          1. Mestny
            Mestny April 1 2020 20: 06 New
            -20
            They don’t care. It was a long time ago, and those who remember it are becoming less and less.
            They are again fighting for power. Who cares how? The main thing to break through the feeder.
          2. fleks
            fleks April 2 2020 07: 39 New
            14
            Soviet people had no experience of the collapse of the country, because few people had the mind to understand that betrayal and destruction of the USSR was from the very
        2. RAE8
          RAE8 April 2 2020 06: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: Svarog
          An organized society, which can only be under socialism,

          An organized society is an authoritarian or totalitarian type of society. And socialism is by no means the only form of organization of such a society.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog April 2 2020 07: 44 New
            +4
            Quote: RAE8
            An organized society is an authoritarian or totalitarian type of society. And socialism is by no means the only form of organization of such a society.

            It is true that only socialism is the key to a stable society and the development of the state, in contrast to other forms.
            1. RAE8
              RAE8 April 3 2020 01: 53 New
              +4
              Quote: Svarog
              only socialism is the key to a sustainable society and the development of the state

              Socialism differs from socialism, and in the variant of "Khrushchev" socialism this is a historically proven path to the collapse of the state and society.
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 April 1 2020 15: 32 New
        -20
        Quote: paul3390
        Only socialism can cope effectively with disasters nationwide.

        There is no socialism in China. It's just that people are smarter.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 16: 41 New
          28
          Quote: Dart2027
          It's just that people are smarter.

          At the helm - definitely!
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 April 1 2020 18: 14 New
            -6
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            At the helm

            Not only.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 18: 19 New
              16
              Quote: Dart2027
              Not only.

              Yes, there are enough duracs everywhere, but the higher the higher the concentration of these. This is judging by the actions.
              1. Mestny
                Mestny April 1 2020 20: 07 New
                -16
                A sign of a fool is omniscientity and a willingness to give advice of any scale to anyone.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 20: 13 New
                  20
                  It is impossible to know everything, a priori. wink From my point of view, you must add to your list a meek and thoughtless compromise with the naked king, and the imposition of this point of view on others. Although when a person does this for money, the terminology of the name of that person changes.
                  1. Mestny
                    Mestny April 1 2020 20: 25 New
                    -18
                    It was you who recorded him in naked kings, and now you are dancing around.
                    Have a conscience at least for now. It’s not easy for people, and NONE of their problems can be solved either by you or your associates. None.
                    The epidemic will end - download further. In the meantime, have a conscience.
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 April 1 2020 20: 28 New
                      20
                      Quote: Mestny
                      The epidemic will end - download further. In the meantime, have a conscience.

                      I have a conscience. Unlike you.
                      1. Mestny
                        Mestny April 1 2020 20: 34 New
                        -20
                        Yes, I had no doubt that you will not pierce anything.
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 April 1 2020 22: 40 New
                        11
                        Quote: Mestny
                        but I didn’t doubt that you could not break through anything.

                        I do not doubt you
                      3. New Year day
                        New Year day April 1 2020 22: 43 New
                        31
                        Quote: Mestny
                        Yes, I had no doubt that you will not pierce anything.

                        I recommend that you go to the hospital with coroners, but not to the publicized "Kommunarka", but the usual one. Your arrogance will come to naught. I think that the staff of such hospitals should be staffed just like you: at least some benefit will be for the country, and the brains will not get up. And if they don't get up, they will bury it
                      4. Liam
                        Liam April 1 2020 22: 56 New
                        10
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        the hyped "Kommunarka"

                        This is in which the head physician himself violates all safety precautions and instructions and communicates with the visitors of the clinic without a mask and without observing social distance, after which he fell ill with the coronavirus?
                2. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 20: 34 New
                  24
                  Quote: Mestny
                  It’s not easy for people, and NONE of their problems can be solved either by you or your like-minded people.

                  Is it your people who decide? belay The regions are already howling, the wife from the clinic didn’t come in fatly, there was no doctor, he quit - the doctors quit because of the load for a penny, there are no masks, they buy construction respirators at their own expense, spit and write statements. This is now when your idol is broadcasting about control over the situation. Damn, when even the government itself speaks of the failure of the reform of medicine, you continue to admire the outfit of the naked king. fool
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 April 1 2020 23: 35 New
                    +8
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    you continue to admire the outfit of the naked king.

                    Yesterday, Dad crawled. They stuck a tube into his esophagus. Screaming fool. Here I fill it with him.
                  2. your1970
                    your1970 April 2 2020 08: 05 New
                    -11
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    no doctor, quit - doctors quit because of the load for a penny

                    I would give a wolf ticket to such doctors, for the future ...
                    Let him plow at the construction sites of the country - not "for a penny" ... and do not let these "doctors" near the sick people
                  3. your1970
                    your1970 April 2 2020 12: 50 New
                    +2
                    Minusators - two years ago they put a surgeon with us. He also did not want to work "for a penny." He walked around the wards and persuaded everyone to pay him ... who did not have money, he even brought a bank loan to get a bribe loan.
                  4. 2 Level Advisor
                    2 Level Advisor April 3 2020 10: 15 New
                    +2
                    Or maybe they just need to pay a decent salary (at least "the average for the country")? After all, there is no particular queue in the state medicine now - those who want to work, except for the sake of experience, so that later to go to private traders, is this normal? in your opinion, you can only demand and give nothing (even respirators)? it was possible to demand self-sacrifice under communism, under capitalism it depends on the person and upbringing .. otherwise, everyone decides for himself .. no need to be surprised that under capitalism (especially our "wild") - everything is as it should be under capitalism ...
                  5. your1970
                    your1970 April 3 2020 10: 19 New
                    0
                    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                    Or maybe you just need to pay them a decent salary (at least "the national average")?

                    This particular surgeon had a salary 47 thousand ....
              2. paul3390
                paul3390 April 2 2020 10: 17 New
                +5
                It was cold, no temperature, just a cough. I decided to call a doctor at home - they refused to go .. Like - drink cough syrups, this should help. I was fucked up by the level of our medicine in a critical period .. It’s somehow very different from what is shown on TV ..
              3. stalki
                stalki April 2 2020 14: 10 New
                +2
                It was cold, no temperature, just a cough. I decided to call a doctor at home - they refused to go .. Like - drink cough syrups, this should help. I was fucked up by the level of our medicine in a critical period .. It’s somehow very different from what is shown on TV ..
                If the temperature would have arrived, and so sit and heal, everything is correct. On your part, the claims are not justified by anything.
              4. paul3390
                paul3390 April 2 2020 14: 21 New
                +1
                Do you know that approximately 20% of crown cases go away without temperature? Yes, and many other colds and pneumonia .. But in general it’s great to think up - clinics do not work, and doctors don’t go without high fever. And what to do - to die at home, self-medicating? Cool idea..
              5. stalki
                stalki April 2 2020 14: 43 New
                +3
                Why do you need a doctor? Do you cough, do you have difficulty breathing, do you have conjunctivitis, chest pain? Dyspnea? Fever? Dizzy? These are all symptoms of coronavirus. If this is nothing? Sit at home and drink hot tea with honey. And if this is the so-called light form, then what's the trouble? They don’t die from this.
              6. nickname7
                nickname7 April 4 2020 15: 39 New
                -1
                And what to do - to die at home, self-medicating?

                From a crown there is no medicine the doctor will not help. Call an ambulance because of a cold tin. Will you scratch an ambulance?
                The ambulances came up to save those who really discarded their skates, and not from a scratch.
              7. paul3390
                paul3390 April 4 2020 15: 42 New
                0
                Once again, for alternatively gifted ones .. Cough and runny nose have been hard for a week, only there is no temperature. I would just go to the doctor - but the clinics are closed. And an ambulance - they just advised me on the phone in the clinic, like the temperature will be - call an ambulance. In the meantime - such as being treated on their own.
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek April 2 2020 17: 35 New
          +6
          Quote: paul3390
          I decided to call a doctor at home - they refused to go ..

          and the ambulance came here and the therapist the next day !!! fool
          Quote: paul3390
          I lost my level of medicine in a critical period ..

          me too ... current in the opposite direction from you !!! tongue
          Quote: paul3390
          Somehow very different from what is shown on TV ..

          is not different!!! wink
          PS ... understood how easily your overlaps with the opposite ?? !!! lol moreover, we are far from a rich region !!! good
  • Li17
    Li17 April 2 2020 07: 16 New
    0
    I recalled one clever saying - the percentage of fools in the army and in the civilian population is the same, it's just that they are more interestingly placed in the army! So, where they serve ....
  • unaha
    unaha April 1 2020 15: 54 New
    +6
    South Korea and Singapore are doing quite well. And in Germany things are going well. What does socialism have to do with it?
    1. depressant
      depressant April 1 2020 16: 50 New
      30
      54-year-old Minister of Finance of Hesse (Germany) Thomas Schaeffer committed suicide. Due to economic instability and financial difficulties caused by the coronavirus epidemic. He worked hard to organize measures to support the business, but he was tormented by fear - whether he could meet the huge expectations of the public. In Germany, 62 thousand are infected, 541 deaths.

      Today, Deputy Minister of Health of Russia Dmitry Kostennikov resigned of his own free will. The number of people infected with coronavirus by April 1 is 2700.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog April 1 2020 16: 56 New
        17
        Quote: depressant
        Today, Deputy Minister of Health of Russia Dmitry Kostennikov resigned of his own free will. The number of people infected with coronavirus by April 1 is 2700.

        It’s an amazing case when we have the deputy minister resigning of his own free will .. the situation is very bad ..
        1. Azim77
          Azim77 April 1 2020 17: 11 New
          17
          Quote: Svarog
          you see the situation is very bad ..

          Quarantine is not a cure. This is only an attempt to delay the number of patients, a conveyor that regulates the flow. If, this conveyor is overloaded and it breaks - that’s all, all kapets. Those who do not understand this and do not adhere to quarantine will be the direct culprits of this breakdown.
          And do not refer to the flu or other diseases, from which more people die and more complications. According to them, there is a medicine and treatment methods are known. Against this virus is not yet. This is his main danger. It has a high propagation speed, so you can not hope that it will completely disappear by itself. In the same China. They have already recorded the first case of re-infection OUTSIDE.
          1. NKVD
            NKVD April 1 2020 20: 10 New
            +6
            Treatment of a person with influenza, symptomatic as well as ARVI. They die not from coronavirus but from complications including pneumonia.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day April 1 2020 22: 47 New
              18
              Quote: NKVD
              .Death not from coronavirus but from complications, including pneumonia.

              your approach fully corresponds to the approach of the authorities, the only thing is that before the coronovirus there was no decompensation of somatic pathology, there were no pneumonia, thromboembolism.
              In the meantime. patients discharged with coronary Covid-19 are not diagnosed
              1. vadimtt
                vadimtt April 9 2020 22: 15 New
                +1
                Come on, after the flu, pneumonia - twice. I was so hospitalized with bilateral pneumonia after a temperature-free flu / ARVI (after skiing competitions at the peak of my form I completely lost my immunity). And pneumonia proceeded at a "record" temperature - as much as 37 laughing It was hard, but didn’t get to the ventilator.
          2. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor April 3 2020 10: 20 New
            0
            What kind of medicine are there against flu, please enlighten? I never heard .. you can’t be cured for 7 days with severe symptoms and possible consequences, if you are cured for 7 days with mild symptoms .. so there are drugs for complications, and not for the virus ..
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky April 1 2020 21: 38 New
          21
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: depressant
          Today, Deputy Minister of Health of Russia Dmitry Kostennikov resigned of his own free will. The number of people infected with coronavirus by April 1 is 2700.

          It’s an amazing case when we have the deputy minister resigning of his own free will .. the situation is very bad ..

          Apparently, unlike Golikova and Skvortsova, who were carrying out reforms and versed in medicine like a woodpecker in watermelons, this deputy minister has some knowledge of practical medicine and perfectly understands the difficult situation these "reformers" have driven domestic medicine into, halving the number of hospitals. hospital beds, polyclinics, fapov and the number of ambulance stations, putting Russian pharmaceuticals on foreign precursors. Now, all these main "reform agents" led by Medvedev are in the shadows and are serenely watching as the "surviving" medical staff will try to help the population, while the acting officials will have to take the rap for their experiments and other "pranks".
          1. Ptolemy Lag
            Ptolemy Lag April 2 2020 08: 10 New
            0
            In fairness, they didn’t plant Russian pharmaceuticals. She was destroyed in 90-2000.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky April 2 2020 08: 20 New
              +8
              Quote: Ptolemy Lag
              In fairness, they didn’t plant Russian pharmaceuticals. She was destroyed in 90-2000.

              If in fairness, then yes, they are not involved in the destruction of pharmaceuticals in the 90s by name, but by belonging to the team of "young reformers" who came to power after the collapse of the USSR, they are direct successors and executors of reforms to cleanse the Russian market from their own producers in favor of foreign ones.
      2. unaha
        unaha April 1 2020 18: 23 New
        10
        Iiiii? Mortality in Germany compared with other Europe is very low, an excellent result.
        I don’t know how in other cities, but in mine a certain regime of "self-isolation" was introduced. The regime is "SAMO", but for some reason it is forced and with fines. And the local minister proposes to sew masks due to the absolute absence on sale.
        Those. the leaders of both the country as a whole and the regional cannot get the courage to even call everything that happens honestly - quarantine.
      3. New Year day
        New Year day April 1 2020 22: 44 New
        24
        Quote: depressant
        54-year-old Minister of Finance of Hesse (Germany) Thomas Schaeffer committed suicide.

        Skvortsova and Golikova will not make such a gift to us, but it's a pity.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid April 2 2020 00: 30 New
          +3
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: depressant
          54-year-old Minister of Finance of Hesse (Germany) Thomas Schaeffer committed suicide.

          Skvortsova and Golikova will not make such a gift to us, but it's a pity.
          and no one will ever do.
      4. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid April 2 2020 00: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: depressant
        54-year-old Minister of Finance of Hesse (Germany) Thomas Schaeffer committed suicide. Due to economic instability and financial difficulties caused by the coronavirus epidemic. He worked hard to organize measures to support the business, but he was tormented by fear - whether he could meet the huge expectations of the public. .......

        What can we say about ours --- they don’t know any similar fears about default
      5. flicker
        flicker April 3 2020 00: 23 New
        +1
        Today, Deputy Minister of Health of Russia Dmitry Kostennikov resigned of his own free will.
        Yeah, on my own 7 years, sat, and then suddenly laughing
        asked, and urgently, so he quit. Together with Skvortsova, health care was falling apart
  • letinant
    letinant April 1 2020 16: 11 New
    +7
    Quote: paul3390
    The experience of China and the bourgeois has shown very clearly that only socialism can effectively cope with disasters of a national scale. For obvious reasons. And our whole life is a complete disaster, so we have no other options. We want to survive - we must return Soviet power. And no other way.

    And where does the Soviet government! So you personally, after the announcement of the enhanced regime, the president’s request to sit at home for 9 days, were at home? Or went kebabs to eat, but breathe air. We still have complete nonsense in our city. How much they say about social distance, someone follows it. Yes there, it’s difficult to cover your mouth when sneezing and coughing. You have to be a man, not a pig. And about the system, the capitalist will, then it will become socialist. It doesn’t matter at all whether to FOLLOW HYGIENE and BE A CULTURAL PERSON, this is important. Health to all!
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r April 1 2020 17: 07 New
      25
      Quote: letinant
      Quote: paul3390
      The experience of China and the bourgeois has shown very clearly that only socialism can effectively cope with disasters of a national scale. For obvious reasons. And our whole life is a complete disaster, so we have no other options. We want to survive - we must return Soviet power. And no other way.

      And where does the Soviet government! So you personally, after the announcement of the enhanced regime, the president’s request to sit at home for 9 days, were at home? Or went kebabs to eat, but breathe air. We still have complete nonsense in our city. How much they say about social distance, someone follows it. Yes there, it’s difficult to cover your mouth when sneezing and coughing. You have to be a man, not a pig. And about the system, the capitalist will, then it will become socialist. It doesn’t matter at all whether to FOLLOW HYGIENE and BE A CULTURAL PERSON, this is important. Health to all!

      And you are right about self-discipline, it was just that under Soviet rule there was a motto - Man is a friend to man, and under capitalism, Man to man is a wolf, each for himself.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny April 1 2020 20: 08 New
        -16
        So what?
        Did the motto help?
    2. Alf
      Alf April 1 2020 23: 16 New
      +9
      Quote: letinant
      So you personally, after the announcement of the enhanced regime, the president’s request to sit at home for 9 days, were at home?

      Oddly enough, Yes, I went out only for bread and walk my bug for five minutes. During these three days I completed the repair in the kitchen and began to collect the Tiger, had already collected half, found it ahead of time and did not dream of.
      1. letinant
        letinant April 2 2020 06: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: letinant
        So you personally, after the announcement of the enhanced regime, the president’s request to sit at home for 9 days, were at home?

        Oddly enough, Yes, I went out only for bread and walk my bug for five minutes. During these three days I completed the repair in the kitchen and began to collect the Tiger, had already collected half, found it ahead of time and did not dream of.

        And I, sitting at home, doing self-training in my specialty. And here we have citizens who flew in from Bangkok tonight. They refused to quarantine in the sanatorium, while they found 3 hundred reasons and left.
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 April 2 2020 23: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: letinant
          They refused to quarantine in the sanatorium, while they found 3 hundred reasons and left.

          Epta was like that everywhere. It was necessary to do it yesterday and forcefully. We held the Chinese at the very beginning and relaxed, it seems a little expensive. We brought people from abroad and let them go home. We had to be locked up in a country sanatorium. And it doesn’t do you have a reason or not
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS April 1 2020 17: 57 New
    +7
    Quote: paul3390
    We want to survive - we must return Soviet power. And no other way.

    We want to survive, we must learn how to be smart people, not freaks!
  • AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 19: 02 New
    -23
    Power would now deny the epidemic, as it classified the outbreak of anthrax in Sverdlovsk. And the people would die from anything but the coronovirus.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day April 1 2020 22: 49 New
      23
      Quote: AS Ivanov.
      Power would now deny the epidemic, as it classified the outbreak of anthrax in Sverdlovsk.

      What can you say about the dead in Nord-Ost? I then drove them on a gurney in the cellars. I saw how they died, I know how they treated and what diagnoses they made. A model of honesty and openness?
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 23: 09 New
        -13
        The whole country knew about the terrorist attack in Nord Ost, no one hid it, on the contrary they called from every iron. But in 1977 they were silent about the terrorist attack in the Moscow metro, people were content with rumors. Was anything written in the Soviet media about the stampede at the Sokolniki stadium? About the explosion of ammunition in the Arctic in 1984? They were silent about the majority of air and railway disasters. The cholera epidemic in the south of the USSR was classified, like so much more.
        1. nickname7
          nickname7 April 4 2020 16: 10 New
          +1
          was classified

          Does secrecy mean genocide for you? These are actually two different things. The main thing is to take all possible measures for salvation, and silence, silence and the devil with silence is the tenth matter.
    2. nickname7
      nickname7 April 4 2020 15: 58 New
      +1
      Power would now deny the epidemic, as she classified the outbreak of anthrax

      And how does panic help? Or is death more important for you than preventing an epidemic? Sosvlast did the most important thing, prevented distribution, and cured many.
  • I
    I April 1 2020 19: 57 New
    +2
    There is a high probability of silencing the real numbers of coronavirus deaths in China.

    During the epidemic, there were 21 million less communication subscribers.


    https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/03/29/v-kitae-za-vremya-epidemii-ischez-21-million-abonentov-telefonnoy-svyazi
    1. vvnab
      vvnab April 2 2020 02: 04 New
      +4
      During the epidemic, there were 21 million less communication subscribers.

      He’s not talking about anything. Many have 2 or even 3 SIM cards. Some simply stopped paying as business activity declined.
      Here is an article for 2018 where trends are described. As it is easy to notice already 2 years ago, the number of subscribers significantly exceeded the number of residents.

      https://www.ixbt.com/news/2018/02/06/chislo-abonentov-sotovoj-svjazi-v-kitae-prevysilo-14-mlrd-chelovek.html
  • Yehudi Menuhin
    Yehudi Menuhin April 2 2020 10: 13 New
    +2
    And in China, socialism?
  • BastaKarapuzik And
    BastaKarapuzik And April 2 2020 11: 15 New
    +2
    Well, what is socialism in China? There is no socialism in China, no-e-euuuu.
    China VERY loves money, it merged with the United States almost in one piece, although it has an economic conflict with Trump. Let this not mislead you, it’s just a division of the market of two capitalist monsters.
    Read the book - "Badly done in China", what do you think, is this a socialist country?
  • flicker
    flicker April 3 2020 00: 04 New
    -1
    We want to survive - we must return Soviet power. And no other way.
    For Soviet power with both hands.
    The question is small: how to return it?
  • nickname7
    nickname7 April 4 2020 15: 28 New
    0
    only socialism can cope effectively with disasters nationwide

    You exaggerate, socialism is access to benefits for all citizens, regardless of income, and they are fighting martial law with disasters. Among the bourgeois, the president may well introduce martial law.
  • svp67
    svp67 April 1 2020 16: 54 New
    16
    Quote: Svarog
    Indeed, now the world will understand that a doctor is much more important than a crooked (in our case) football player ..

    Everything will calm down and again everything will return "to square one." Is this the first such epidemic? They are repeated with enviable regularity. In the same China, they occur almost every year ... Remember where "swine", "bird" flu, SARS were noted. And the current epidemic does not go into any comparison with the same "Spanish flu". More than one state was not ready to resist, at the first stage. The second stage turned out to be the main one - when everything began to depend on the political will of the leadership and the organization of society. Here the Asian countries have set an example to the whole world. China, the Republic of Korea, Japan proved to be more effective in countering and arresting the "infection".
    We are very lucky so far. Apparently, either God is for us, or, as some suggest, we are also saved by the "legacy of the great and mighty USSR" ...
    1. Svarog
      Svarog April 1 2020 17: 03 New
      13
      Quote: svp67
      We are very lucky so far. Apparently, either God is for us, or, as some suggest, we are also saved by the "legacy of the great and mighty USSR" ...

      I have doubts about our luck .. I don’t really believe that we have so few infected .. There are two reasons for this, firstly, we have practically no diagnosis, at least an accurate diagnosis can only be determined by getting into a hospital .. (maybe in Moscow it’s not), and secondly, judging by the schedule of infection in other countries, infection develops equally rapidly .. well, almost the same, I mean the increase in incidence, we, unlike all countries, simply demonstrate a powerful immunity to this byak .. This is very strange ..
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 1 2020 17: 15 New
        16
        Quote: Svarog
        we, unlike all countries, simply demonstrate a powerful immunity to this byaka .. This is very strange ..

        Foreign experts are asking the same question. And they have the assumption that the merit of the USSR is here, with its general vaccination, especially against tuberculosis, as these drugs help in the treatment and relief of this disease. Yes, and a little positive, for this day we have fewer registered patients - 440 than for the previous ones - 500
        1. Svarog
          Svarog April 1 2020 17: 18 New
          +8
          And they have the assumption that the merit of the USSR is here, with its general vaccination, especially against tuberculosis, as these drugs help in the treatment and relief of this disease.

          I also heard this version .. Well, if so .. there we were talking about BCG vaccination.
          1. svp67
            svp67 April 1 2020 17: 20 New
            +8
            Quote: Svarog
            Well if so ..

            And it is indirectly confirmed that we have just a lot of young people sick, or rather the generation to which this vaccine was not given, for some period
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 18: 23 New
              +7
              Quote: svp67
              rather, the generation to which this vaccine was not given, for some period

              Sergey, this vaccine has always been given, and continues to be given.
              1. Horon
                Horon April 1 2020 19: 28 New
                +2
                In the 90s, vaccination was optional. request
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 19: 39 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Horon
                  In the 90s, vaccination was optional

                  Something I do not remember this. As far as I know, they used to do everything without asking. At least in 2000 no one asked me, poked by default.
                  1. Horon
                    Horon April 1 2020 19: 48 New
                    +8
                    It’s bad that you don’t remember, but I remember. hi Children born at that time do not have a total vaccination. Parents refused to vaccinate their children under the pretext of dire consequences for their children. This was even heard on TV. The real reason was the lack of purchased vaccine material, thus the state shifted responsibility for the consequences to the parents. Vaccinations have now become compulsory when entering school.
                    1. dauria
                      dauria April 2 2020 08: 39 New
                      +1
                      This was even heard on TV.


                      Yes, it was. And there was even an article by some "candidate" honey. sciences. And mothers who refuse vaccinations. And then there was an outbreak of diphtheria with deaths. But it's like the mid-90s (from memory)
                    2. Horon
                      Horon April 4 2020 13: 20 New
                      +2
                      Yes, somewhere in this period there was this bacchanalia. I remembered this only because I was shocked by such savagery. Although, if you think about it, this was then higher than the roof.
                2. asv363
                  asv363 April 2 2020 04: 31 New
                  0
                  Igor, when did you write truthfully: 31.03.2020/20/25 at 20:26 and XNUMX:XNUMX, when did you write that BCG is done at will by a lot of refuseniks, or now?

                  https://topwar.ru/169657-predstavlena-karta-udelnoj-zabolevaemosti-covid-19-shvejcarija-okazalas-v-trojke.html#comment-id-10282066
                  https://topwar.ru/169657-predstavlena-karta-udelnoj-zabolevaemosti-covid-19-shvejcarija-okazalas-v-trojke.html#comment-id-10282063
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 April 2 2020 09: 02 New
                    -1
                    What did you see not the docking? In 2000, daughters were done without demand, now 10 years already, as they do only with consent. Although imposed. request
                3. svp67
                  svp67 April 2 2020 05: 15 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  At least in 2000 no one asked me, poked by default.

                  C nulls again returned to the practice of universal vaccinations, and then, some refusals wrote, but in the 90s there was no obligation, they did on the fact of availability. This I can confirm for my children, one has this vaccine, the second is not ...
          2. New Year day
            New Year day April 1 2020 22: 51 New
            14
            Quote: svp67
            we just have a lot of sick young

            all over the world the trend is this: the young are more sick, who for the most part are relatively easy to carry the virus, but most of the elderly die. According to statistics, the vast majority of deaths after 60 years
      2. Harry.km
        Harry.km April 1 2020 20: 35 New
        +5
        Quote: svp67
        Yes, and a little positive

        Russia -24, a running line today ... Golikova said that the surge in the number of patients was caused by the fact that there were more test systems ... That's all your positiff ... Although how can you justify this mess here, but we are confident We roll according to the Italian scenario. See graphs and numbers, not Solovyov-Kisilev!
        1. New Year day
          New Year day April 1 2020 22: 52 New
          16
          Quote: Harry.km
          Golikova said

          do not believe Barbie. He’s lying like a gray gelding. Disease sharply increased
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 2 2020 05: 31 New
            -8
            Quote: Silvestr
            do not believe Barbie. He’s lying like a gray gelding. Disease sharply increased

            "Sylvester", stop wagging, give at least once a clear forecast. Are we all going to die? Or only half? According to you, it is not determined ... negative
            1. Harry.km
              Harry.km April 2 2020 12: 32 New
              -2
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Will we all die?

              Mr. Jack, you will die with a 146% guarantee!
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack April 2 2020 16: 27 New
                +2
                Quote: Harry.km
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Will we all die?

                Mr. Jack, you will die with a 146% guarantee!

                SchA I will quietly go wild ... no, it’s clear that no one is guaranteed - but, Vasya, I’m still a piece of sourdough (s).

                - not Mr. Jack, but Golovan. That’s the name of the dog, on behalf of whom I’m here with you, (censorship), I’m talking. Accepted? wink

                - who is there and how will die - Time will tell.

                - 146% IT IS ONLY ON KISELEV .. With this, my friends, well, certainly not for me .....

                Free forever ... visually impaired negative
              2. Rusland
                Rusland April 2 2020 18: 32 New
                +1
                Quote: Harry.km
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Will we all die?

                Mr. Jack, you will die with a 146% guarantee!

                And about people like you say that they died of tobacco, they press down with a boot in an extreme case. negative
        2. svp67
          svp67 April 2 2020 05: 20 New
          +3
          Quote: Harry.km
          See graphs and numbers, not Solovyov-Kisilev!

          Nice man, I brought the numbers, from the site:
          https://стопкоронавирус.рф/
          And according to it, on March 30 in Russia, there were 500 sick people per day - XNUMX people
          March 31 - 440.
          And that's all, and what are you talking about. Show your "graphics-figures" "not Kiselevsko-Solovievskie". I'm wondering
          Here are the data for the regions on April 01, 2020

          According to them, my region has moved from the "disgraceful" fourth place in terms of the number of infected to a slightly less "disgraceful" fifth place
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 2 2020 05: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: svp67
            Nice man, I brought the numbers, from the site:
            https://стопкоронавирус.рф/

            What is this?
            Coronaviruses are a family of viruses that predominantly infect animals, but in some cases can be transmitted to humans. Usually, diseases caused by coronaviruses proceed in a mild form, without causing severe symptoms.

            That is, my cat and dog are at risk, and I, like, went out for a walk?

            Amusingly what
            1. svp67
              svp67 April 2 2020 05: 35 New
              +2
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Usually, diseases caused by coronaviruses proceed in a mild form, without causing severe symptoms.

              Where is this from? But nothing, that one of the coronaviruses, that is, the family of RNA-containing viruses, namely the Polinosa morbillarium virus, is the causative agent in humans of the disease - measles
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack April 2 2020 05: 36 New
                +3
                Quote: svp67
                Where is this from?

                Sergey, this is from your link repeat
                1. svp67
                  svp67 April 2 2020 05: 40 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Sergey, this is from your link

                  Precisely there is, somehow it did not come to this ... Apparently referring to "usually" about "unusual" they do not want to spread, so that they do not direct horror ...
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack April 2 2020 05: 48 New
                    +3
                    Quote: svp67
                    that would not terrify ...

                    But don’t do it. She, if she knows how, will lead herself.

                    But it’s necessary to survive calmly. As the President ordered, for example. Less shy, less thump ... well, somehow. IMHO, naturally ...
                  2. svp67
                    svp67 April 2 2020 05: 50 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    But don’t do it. She, if she knows how, will lead herself.

                    It is a fact...
  • unaha
    unaha April 1 2020 18: 34 New
    +6
    And you rightly doubt it. A journalist with pneumonia has recently died in the city. The journalist's first analysis was somehow screwed up, now it was sent again. "The analysis showed a negative result, but it was not very clear. We redirected it to the federal center, we are waiting for the result." That, as it were, says about the reliability of the analyzes. And in the mass of patients with acute respiratory infections / acute respiratory viral infections, they are not checked at all.
    The other day a parent arrived with a child from the Emirates - from the group of his son in the kindergarten, so no one checked anything with them. If not for the "holidays", I would probably go to the kindergarten ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 2 2020 05: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: unaha
      And you doubt it right.

      One can only cite the fact that a deceased person, for several days, is a source of infection. Why are they now all over the world trying to cremate. So, they will check it anyway, and if they find it, they will cremate the corpse, and all those in contact will be quarantined
      1. unaha
        unaha April 2 2020 08: 43 New
        0
        It doesn’t work out - we don’t have a crematorium (((
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 2 2020 09: 24 New
          +3
          Quote: unaha
          It doesn’t work out - we don’t have a crematorium (((

          You don’t have it now. They can adjust at any moment, they will re-profile a mobile or coal boiler room ...
          1. unaha
            unaha April 2 2020 09: 28 New
            -1
            Yes, you look optimistic)))
            1. svp67
              svp67 April 2 2020 09: 35 New
              +4
              Quote: unaha
              Yes, you look optimistic)))

              Alas, a realist. He had something to do with the organization of "civil defense" issues, this is provided for there, in order to avoid the spread of the epidemic
              1. unaha
                unaha April 2 2020 09: 49 New
                0
                Well, at least that. And then people have nowhere to bury, and they cannot build a crematorium for 20 years.
  • nickname7
    nickname7 April 4 2020 16: 18 New
    0
    And on the other hand, why do you need a diagnosis? Do you like accuracy? There is no cure for the disease; you cannot drive the virus out of the diagnosis. If you even get sick and stay alive, then figs with a diagnosis. Arriving at the hospital for a diagnosis can infect the rest of both doctors and patients. The hospital does not cure the virus.
    These figures of diagnosis and diangnosis were given to everyone.
  • bk316
    bk316 April 1 2020 16: 55 New
    10
    this is the case and it is alarming that the curve for the growth of patients with us repeats the Italian version ..

    Neither you, nor Roman, nor the majority of readers IN NO FUCK understand this. Well, that is, from the word at all, on a 100-point scale somewhere around 10. belay
    It is interesting that Roman has been writing articles about what he doesn’t understand recently, and SOMETIMES EVERYWHERE gets by some miracle. Roman, my respect for laughing , but it doesn’t change the matter. Well, don’t write about what you don’t understand ....
    In fact. It’s too early to say in which scenario everything will go. AND NO CURVE DOES NOT REPEAT ANYTHING. Already tired of explaining this to the ignoramuses. Listen to advice from a person who understands at least something in this (well, 60 points laughing ): wait until the end of next week then I will give you a forecast with a very high probability.

    As for Skvortsova, I can’t say anything. But to evaluate a specialist for a non-specialist is a bad manners. Roman is me to you. In general, the FMBA is not primarily a ministry but a system of hospitals throughout the country.
    Very competent specialists work in them, I personally know some, believe me, they worked 24/7 anyway ....
    And they will save many many lives, regardless of Skvortsova. And the plan that you want so much is a slightly edited plan, if I am not mistaken for 55 years. I saw him for the first time in 91.

    In general, I urge everyone to just wait, because no one pulls anyone by the tongue. Roman You yourself have already made mistakes about the coronavirus more than once. Did they not howl wrote that this is generally a fake? And now "we'll get over everything"?
    I would now be ashamedly silent in your place, or at least repented .... It’s not a shame to make mistakes, it’s a shame not to admit your mistakes.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog April 1 2020 17: 12 New
      +6
      Quote: bk316
      In general, I urge everyone to just wait, because no one is pulling anyone's tongue

      Somehow you wrote a lot, but all I realized is that you supposedly understand the issue, but you need to wait a week .. What should happen? What will change? Will the virus back down?
      1. andranick
        andranick April 1 2020 19: 50 New
        +6
        Will the virus back down?
        Of course not. It’s just that, for various reasons, it is impossible to build any forecast on the existing data set. The influence of imported cases is too great, (so far) the influence of local infections is weakly manifested, convalescence is 10 days ahead of fatal cases, and so on and so on ... For the time being in Russia, 8 out of 9 cases recover, but I assume that this indicator will change by the end of the current weeks, and will become more or less reliable by the end of next week.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day April 1 2020 22: 54 New
        18
        Quote: Svarog
        but you have to wait a week .. What should happen?

        will introduce special passes in Moscow and
        Quote: Svarog
        The virus will back down
        laughing Frightened by the Russian Guard
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 2 2020 06: 30 New
          -1
          Quote: Silvestr
          will introduce special passes in Moscow and

          It is easy. In Israel, it’s been a week since you’ve been 100 meters away from home ...

          Quote: Silvestr
          The virus will back down
          Frightened by the Russian Guard

          Words of the Minister of Foreign Affairs .... how many of you still walk around the world, dear mother ...
      3. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 2 2020 06: 27 New
        -3
        Quote: Svarog
        What is going to happen? What will change? Will the virus back down?

        The dynamics will become clear. "Svarog", you are trying to speak with a very literate person. A mathematician in particular.

        This is not your level, "Svarog". Your level is littering in the comments. IMHO, yes. negative
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 18: 25 New
      14
      Quote: bk316
      But to evaluate a specialist for a non-specialist is a bad manners.

      It is not necessary to do the ballet yourself in order to understand that something is hindering one dancer, but not the other. wink
      1. Mestny
        Mestny April 1 2020 20: 13 New
        -9
        This is not ballet. This is scientific and practical knowledge. I like to rate them according to the system - I just don't like stupidity. Or meanness.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 20: 28 New
          +9
          Quote: Mestny
          This is scientific and practical knowledge.

          Here is a mathematical example for you - as I already wrote, the Ministry of Health announced a decrease in the incidence of tuberculosis over the year by 15%, among children by more than 20%. And the same Ministry of Health recognizes the increase in the number of abandoned BCG. what conclusions can be drawn from this from the point of view of mathematics?
          1. Mestny
            Mestny April 1 2020 20: 36 New
            -10
            No.
            Only in terms of medical statistics.
            It is possible to do more precisely, but they will be useful only in the political struggle with the authorities.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 20: 40 New
              +8
              Quote: Mestny
              No.

              Do you know the principle of communicating vessels? There are more refuseniks - the incidence is lower, less refuseniks - .... Simple mathematics, no more.
          2. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 23: 14 New
            -3
            The consequences of refusing BCG vaccination we will see in 10 years, when the children - refuseniks grow up.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 2 2020 09: 06 New
              -2
              Andrew, all this is nonsense. Read the declared BCG validity period, after 10 years it does not work already. All vaccinations have a validity period, and do not have a lifelong effect. hi
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. April 2 2020 11: 17 New
                -2
                Anti-ulcer and polio vaccines for life. BCG is not an absolute panacea, but it prepares the human body for a meeting with Koch's bacilli. God forbid that the side effect of BCG is the body's resistance to the coronovirus.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 April 2 2020 11: 36 New
                  -2
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  Anti-ulcer and polio vaccines for life.

                  Smallpox, yes, no polio. At risk for polio, only children under 7 years of age. Adults practically do not get sick, regardless of vaccination.
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  but it prepares the human body for a meeting with Koch bacilli.

                  Infecting the body for life. Andrei, you’re kind of thinking, note that people in prisons often get sick, and all were vaccinated with BCG.
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. April 2 2020 11: 41 New
                    -2
                    If they weren’t vaccinated, they would hurt even more often. And about polio: Roosevelt disagrees with you. He suffered this disease at age 40, and as a result, he sat in a wheelchair.
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 April 2 2020 11: 49 New
                      0
                      Quote: AS Ivanov.
                      If they weren’t vaccinated, they would hurt even more often.

                      Is not a fact. Take a look at the nature of tuberculosis. I also recommend that you familiarize yourself with the zone of spread of poliomyelitis and its incidence by age groups.
        2. New Year day
          New Year day April 1 2020 22: 55 New
          17
          Quote: Mestny
          don't like just stupid. Or meanness.

          not for you to judge! Your commitment is simply beyond. I gave you advice above
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV April 1 2020 17: 27 New
    +1
    The growth was absolutely predictable from the beginning of the return of our citizens from abroad, many of whom flooded there on the principle of "consolidated" and all do not care ... today several thousand are in / Indonesia and Thailand ... add them ... so ... so health to everyone, take care of yourself and others and less panic, and a wish to the author, you'd better publish your own more interesting military historical materials ... they are more interesting
  • businessv
    businessv April 1 2020 15: 19 New
    10
    To be continued, dear readers. It cannot but follow. In one part it’s not possible to fit in any way
    Roman, thank you very much for the very necessary material! It is a pity that he will not change much in real medicine, but the people will at least really understand what exactly is happening and whose fault it is! You and all forum users, their relatives and friends, including all Russians, good health and sober mind! To all those on whom the health of the nation depends, but which it does not care at all, I wish to meet as soon as possible and closer with the reason for the appearance of this article of Roman! hi
    1. military_cat
      military_cat April 1 2020 15: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: businessv
      but the people will at least really understand what exactly is happening and whose fault

      It is unlikely. The people will read the next article, which says that GMOs are guilty of everything and lack of spirituality. And since the head does not exist in a harmonious picture of the world, it will be easy to choose which article to believe, which subjectively you like best, and this will be believed. It's nice to think that everyone is dying because of hamburgers, and we ate a quinoa? This is what they will believe.
      1. depressant
        depressant April 1 2020 17: 01 New
        20
        Bussinesv, Russians care about their health, cares. But health care is competing with a wallet, the contents of which are clearly not enough to sit out in isolation for at least a month, as well as with absolute distrust of the authorities and, as a consequence, despair expressed in the subconscious thesis "than to live like this, it is better to die" ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 18: 26 New
          +7
          Quote: depressant
          But health care comes into competition with a wallet whose contents are clearly not enough to sit out in self-isolation for at least a month,

          That's right Lyudmila! video in the subject -
        2. businessv
          businessv April 10 2020 19: 20 New
          0
          Quote: depressant
          Russians care about their health, cares.

          Did I say the opposite? I argued and affirm that our health does not concern those who are obligated to them to be concerned about their official position and duty! Regarding the wallet, I agree, of course, but the article was not about finances.
    2. Den717
      Den717 April 2 2020 01: 33 New
      -3
      Quote: businessv
      people will at least really understand what exactly is happening

      Well, what is going on? What do you understand from an article that is far from medicine and the concepts of the situation?
      Only two positions are normally explained:
      1. There is no power (Roman has this in every article)
      2. The people in the country of idiots and do not care. In short, we all stand each other. Close to the truth laughing
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 1 2020 15: 27 New
    -4
    That's right, Roman. The most important thing now is to promptly and quickly expose all the nonsense of the "upper people".
    Today's stupidity - tomorrow everyone is laughing or cursing at you (from the mood) - but no one is indifferent.
    Only our indifference allows such as Medvedev to ruin the people for 10 years in a row, and laughing to tell how all is well.
    But we remembered him, even if he doesn’t try to run somewhere - we’ll take him, if necessary with the election commissions, into tar, feathers and the gates!
    1. GKS 2111
      GKS 2111 April 1 2020 15: 50 New
      16
      So that's where the dog rummaged - Medvedev is to blame for everything, it turns out ... To the answer of the vile hire of the damned capitalists and imperialists! That's right, let him just try to run for it! We were living bad because of him, well, we’ll heal the taperich, the main thing is not to let Because the authorities have been using it as a lightning rod for a long time, they allow him to laugh, they constantly put him in an awkward position so that you can say about him: now he is to blame for everything. Medvedev, with all desire, does not pull on the role of a lightning rod.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny April 1 2020 20: 22 New
        -14
        No! This is not enough!
        Let everyone read this dirty libel, and maybe in someone’s head they’ll sit down to protest.
        The power of quarantine - and they are against! Do not comply!
        Now there really is a problem with this virus. Regardless of the government (which is in fact, whatever).
        It would seem that a decent person, at least shut up at least for a while, Well, until the situation, if not resolved, then at least be determined. Even more decent would help than he could.
        But these are not like that. They have only furious, accusatory speeches.
        Who helped the communists? Maybe they bought for example masks and distributed to the population? Or helped pensioners? Well, since the authorities are doing nothing according to them.
        There is nothing. Only the intensity of anger on the Internet has grown.
        People are not just psychologically so. And this is only better. Well, still, such an occasion to raise the people. So in normal situations it doesn’t work.
        This dirty and sneaky way to explain would be from our neighbors. But from some of them ...
  • RitaNik
    RitaNik April 1 2020 15: 34 New
    20
    Thanks to the author for the article. Basic information about the treatment of patients revolves around Kommunarka. There is practically no information on the readiness and equipment of hospitals in the regions. And that worries ...
    All health and fortitude.
    1. Den717
      Den717 April 2 2020 01: 45 New
      -2
      Quote: RitaNik
      There is practically no information on the readiness and equipment of hospitals in the regions. And that worries ...

      In the country today there are more than 40 mechanical ventilation. It is planned to purchase another 000 thousand. At any point, you can create a density of 7,5-200% of the demand. If you want to know what is being done at your hospital, ask the head physician of your hospital to attend a non-daily headquarters selector. It is conducted by videoconference in each hospital or clinic. You won’t understand everything, but you can catch something. This will be first-hand info. And not retelling of Internet headlines under the sauce of their own political addictions.
  • Van 16
    Van 16 April 1 2020 15: 57 New
    +9
    A good article, it feels about painful. It seems to me that the final clarity of what is going on somewhere in a week or two will come.
    Health and do not get sick!
  • Chervonny
    Chervonny April 1 2020 16: 06 New
    22
    We have trouble in the country, which means we need to make money out of trouble.

    “Market” and “lack of conscience” are synonyms of today.

    This is called CAPITALISM. Only under capitalism is it possible to earn money in trouble, because capitalism and conscience are not compatible concepts.
  • Romey
    Romey April 1 2020 16: 15 New
    +8
    I just reread the essay on the plague in Manchuria. Interested in the author's assessment of the behavior of the population and the Chinese authorities. Population: fatalism, indifference, idiocy, multiplied by primeval ignorance. Authorities: a complete ignore of proposals from Russian, Japanese and other foreign experts on sanitary measures and quarantine, a major and blessed bacchanalia in the local media, good intentions and absolute reluctance to execute them. I have long noticed the similarity of Qing China and modern Russia, and again to the very point.
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta April 1 2020 21: 05 New
      19
      Quote: romey
      I have long noticed the similarity of Qing China and modern Russia, and again to the very point.

      obscurantism in the Russian itory was even enough, and taking into account the rollback of the Russian Federation in all indicators of the beginning of the last century, many historical works become prophetic in the worst cases.
  • Sarkazm
    Sarkazm April 1 2020 16: 22 New
    12
    Quote: Svarog
    This is the case, and it is alarming that the growth rate of the diseased among us repeats the Italian version .. it remains to be hoped that the mortality rate will not be so high .. although there is little hope, equipment and medical staff are needed .. coordination of actions .. And indeed, now the world will understand that a doctor is much more important than a crooked (in our case) football player ..
    As a matter of fact, there is a war, thanks to the author for sobriety, neither understatement nor exaggeration, but a pragmatic view, assessments, sorry conclusions are not broader.
    Our health workers, the very ones who receive a salary just above the cleaning lady, or even lower, all who are capable of at least something, will sacrifice themselves in order to stop this infection, but why should we lose them? Why bring the situation over and over again so that one of us rushes into the embrasure again?
    Elementary campaigns of the head of the family for groceries can turn into a wheel of Fortune.
    We are late, we are late again, again there is no forecast, no assessment of the risks of proactive work, again a greasy deck of stupid and incapable "dear friends", their wives, children, and forgive me for being gentle, favorites, is shuffling.
    Shish kebabs instead of self-isolation - we can say they say a vivid testimony "the people are worthy of their ruler", that is, irresponsibility and senselessness are mutual. Yes, the fact is that the elite of society should be nominated to power and serve as a locomotive, and not an example of a narrow-minded permissiveness, lack of principle, etc.
    We were late, the question is how much. For example, it was possible to take the simplest measures and reduce in advance the domestic movement of citizens within the country and regions, not to mention idle. Instead, we switched the flow of tourists, someone rubbing our hands preached the development of tourism within the country ... etc.
    I don’t want to talk much about the holidays paid by employers and the refusal to impose quarantine, or even emergencies in a number of regions, the position and behavior of top government officials, just tired of remembering the wretched.
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus April 1 2020 16: 27 New
    13
    All this, of course, is very nice and correct, but it has little relation to the essence of the problem.
    And it is that the epidemic is political , not a medical question.
    Let me remind you that back in February, our authorities demonstrated Olympic calm about the coronavirus (for which Navalny is now mercilessly criticizing them), the first "swallows of the epidemic" appeared immediately after the "zeroing", and the "epidemic" was fully declared after the oil failure. But for example in Belarus or Sweden there is no political interest in the epidemic. And surprisingly she is not there smile A dangerous viral infection, yes, there is. But there is no "terrible epidemic".
    In our case, the idea is this. Cover up a political epidemic, and most importantly a catastrophic economic crisis. The situation is actually much worse than in the 90s. The Soviet legacy is almost eaten up. In every sense of the word. Everything holds on only due to oil and gas prices. If they fall to the level of 25 per brent and 15 per urals, the country will be able to exist no more than a year or two. I recall, in the 90s, it existed all the time. Accordingly, people will quickly become poor and lose their jobs.
    How can you steal theft? Yes, by fire. How can you hide an economic disaster? Yes, by way of an epidemic. The plan is that Putin is a patriot winner, the Nazis defeated, and the coronavirus will be defeated. Yes, the situation is difficult, but people are impoverished, but this is an epidemic, as you do not understand! And the authorities will help everyone now. We must unite in this difficult time. And troublemakers on the head. Look what is done in Italy!
    Hence all the "weirdness of the epidemic".
    Why does Putin not make any decisions other than announcing a "paid" week. ? Because he should associate only with victory and positive, but brought unpleasant decisions. Wait, he will come out in all white closer to May 9 and declare "victory over the coronavirus".
    Why is there no emergency or even quarantine, but there is illegal "voluntary self-isolation" and the mythical "non-working paying week"? Yes, because the authorities do not, in general, do not want to work in the legal field, which means responsibility (including monetary).
    Why in an absurd way during the "epidemic" is the call-up carried out and all construction sites work, that is, visitors from Central Asia and the Transcaucasus calmly walk around the cities? Because the "epidemic" is certainly good, but the real things should continue as usual.
    Why is there nothing in pharmacies and hospitals, but the authorities are ferociously persecuting for "fakes" everyone who talks about it and sends aid to Italy and the USA? Because for her, lifting the sanctions on her loved ones is 100 times more important than any "epidemics". If necessary, they will at least send all the masks to the USA. And our medicine has collapsed a long time ago, and has not prepared for any epidemic and is not going to prepare it. The main thing here is to report in time. Closer to May 9, they will still announce a "victory over the coronavirus". After that, you can safely forget about everything.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog April 1 2020 16: 46 New
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      In our case, the idea is this. Cover the epidemic with a political, and most importantly a catastrophic economic crisis.

      Very informative and interesting comment .. in general, you can publish an article .. 1000 pluses for you. hi
      Only now a question arises, I can’t trace the benefits of power .. because now a lot of people will be left without work, many IPs will go bankrupt .. accordingly, the state will suffer even greater losses in the economy .. thereby approaching the abyss .. already political ..
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir April 1 2020 17: 08 New
        +8
        Maybe they have the task of repeating the feat of Gorbacheaa-Yeltsin.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog April 1 2020 17: 14 New
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          Quote: Gardamir
          Maybe they have the task of repeating the feat of Gorbacheaa-Yeltsin.

          Now, if you look from this side ... then all the puzzles add up hi
        2. Odysseus
          Odysseus April 1 2020 19: 49 New
          +9
          Quote: Gardamir
          Maybe they have the task of repeating the feat of Gorbacheaa-Yeltsin.

          There is such a version, but it does not seem to me too convincing.
          The logic of Gorbachev-Yeltsin is simple and understandable. Let's dismantle socialism which prevents us from completely using power, and most importantly property. Next was their sweet family quarrel among themselves - Gorbachev wanted to steer the confederate USSR, Yeltsin himself wanted to steer the former RSFSR.
          Immediately, Putin and Co. have everything, and undivided power and property. Why would they cut a chicken laying golden eggs? From billionaires to become paupers? After all, no one is waiting for them and no one will give them guarantees of security. At least they do not trust the guarantees of the West.
          So I'm afraid these citizens will not leave us
      2. unaha
        unaha April 1 2020 18: 44 New
        +2
        The state is not special. But local budgets, yes. And then they firmly sit on the cooks of federal subsidies and do not even remember any independence whatsoever. The bonus is certainly not planned, but quite pleasant.
      3. Odysseus
        Odysseus April 1 2020 19: 37 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        Very informative and interesting comment .. in general, you can publish an article .. 1000 pluses to you

        Thank. An article with such content will not be published and correctly done. I think there is no need to demand from the administration of VO impossible. They already do everything they can.
        Quote: Svarog
        Only now the question arises, I can’t trace the benefits of power .. because now a lot of people will be left without work, many IPs will go bankrupt.

        The benefits are direct and very simple. Here you are the chief of the arsenal from which ammunition is stolen, how do you avoid responsibility? Very easy to blow up an arsenal. After which your guilt disappears, although the ammunition becomes even smaller.
        Yes, people will be poor and go broke, but this is not a problem for the authorities at all .. The main thing is the victory over global evil, and the protection of lives. Look how many deaths we have, and how many in Italy? And all thanks to the wise policy of the authorities. As for people, so are they themselves with a great cry they’ll go to Putin and say, “Father Tsar save us from poverty and ruin.” And he will mercifully save everyone. And people will also swear among themselves, and why the neighbor (the Muscovite. Businessman. Etc.) got more. The problem for the authorities is different.
        1) Management. Conducting a controlled epidemic in conditions of low oil prices requires quality management .. There it is necessary to monitor the virus and the main thing is to coordinate everything clearly so that the economy is not completely ruined. Everything should be in moderation.
        And thanks to 30 years of negative selection at the top, we have such shots that you cannot say in a fairy tale or describe it with a pen ... And if you think that there are evil, but smart people sitting there, a kind of "Mr. Evil", you are mistaken. There are mostly thieves with momentary reflexes. The quality of governance is such that even now we are observing the country's essentially sovereignty on the air. The authorities may simply lose control of the situation by autumn.
        2) Oil prices. Despite the poor management, the authorities plan to succeed if oil prices are 50 per barrel. Then there will be funds to give everyone a handout, and regional barons, and big business, the rest to everyone else. If prices remain at the current level, everything will fly to tartarars. Therefore, the authorities now desperately want to negotiate with the Saudis and Trump. But here not everything depends on them.
        1. your1970
          your1970 April 2 2020 08: 32 New
          +2
          Quote: Odyssey
          tartarars. So the authorities now desperately want to negotiate with the Saudis and Trump. But here not everything depends on them.

          Therefore, they did not talk to the Saudis at all, and Trump called ours himself? In my opinion, our "desperate want" looks strange ...
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus April 2 2020 14: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: your1970
            Therefore, they did not talk to the Saudis at all, and Trump called ours himself? In my opinion, our "desperate want" looks strange ...

            Watch the First Channel less. Listen better Vladimir Vladimirovich after 4 - he will tell the situation is difficult, "self-isolation" is prolonging smile
        2. flicker
          flicker April 3 2020 00: 54 New
          0
          An article with such content will not be published and correctly done. I think there is no need to demand from the administration of VO impossible. They already do everything they can.
          good
          "They are already doing everything they can" - and you are well informed bully
          What are they doing? More can not be?
    2. unaha
      unaha April 1 2020 18: 41 New
      +3
      As they say, neither reduce nor add)))
    3. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 23: 18 New
      -10
      What failure is covered by an epidemic in France, Italy and Spain? Well, that’s right: they don’t have a damned Putin, they have an epidemic, not a cover operation. You are our storyteller.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus April 2 2020 01: 11 New
        +8
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        What failure is covered by an epidemic in France, Italy and Spain? Well, that’s right: they don’t have a damned Putin, they have an epidemic, not a cover operation.

        Do not confuse the reality of the virus causing atypical (viral) pneumonia with a response to it in the form of a "global pandemic". There is a virus, and there is a political use of it both at the global and local levels. I have described our Russian use. This is our local level. It is by no means the only one and has nothing to do with the events in Italy.
        For example, in Hungary, under the guise of an "epidemic", Prime Minister Orban received unlimited (for Europe, of course) powers from parliament.
        This is their Hungarian local level, and no "damned Putin" has anything to do with it. And the events in Hungary also have nothing to do with the global unfolding of the "pandemic".
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        You are our storyteller.

        Well, fine. And now, since you believe in an "epidemic", please go to the nearest construction site and tell about the "epidemic and complete self-isolation" to hundreds of Kyrgyz and Uzbeks running around the city without any masks.
    4. Alf
      Alf April 1 2020 23: 33 New
      +6
      Quote: Odyssey
      Why there is no emergency

      Has already.

      And right there.

      Pay attention to the dates.
      This is how, your mother, I'm sorry, to understand?
      The government on the 26th introduces a draft law on the adoption of an emergency situation and immediately, on the 26th, says that there is no need for an emergency situation? Why then this law is needed if no one is going to introduce emergency situations? It seems that in the brains of the "top" there is a complete misunderstanding of the situation and an absolute ignorance of what to do.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus April 2 2020 01: 31 New
        +8
        The authorities fundamentally do not want to work in the legal field and declare an emergency. This means being responsible, including monetary. Therefore, she simply disappeared and transferred the "initiative to the places." But the local authorities are also not fools, they can introduce an emergency regime (this is a little different from an emergency), but they categorically do not want to. This again, responsibility and authority can leave the local authorities to the security forces. Hence the insane "readiness modes" and "forced self-isolation".
        At the same time, given the "quality" of management personnel in the field, a complete mess began. Plus, local officials strive to protect themselves and come up with "innovations" based on their imagination.
        As for the law, the government will be delegated powers if they decide to announce an emergency throughout the country. It is important that this is not done by Putin. He will declare victory.
        Quote: Alf
        It seems that in the brains of the "top" there is a complete misunderstanding of the situation and an absolute ignorance of what to do

        No, they have a plan. Here with the performance of it is bad smile
        I wrote to Svarog above, one of the 2 problems of power is management.
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard April 1 2020 16: 36 New
    +3
    Wicked, but largely fair article. IMHO hi
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  • Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem April 1 2020 16: 45 New
    +8
    We have quarantine, a ban on entry-exit from regions and cities was announced earlier.
    Even in a personal car without a permit sticker (it is for medical staff, security officials, bankers, cleaning machines and couriers) not to go - a serious fine, about $ 500 and a parking lot.
    Only bazaars work, there at the entrance to all the antiseptics coming into your hands are sprayed, pharmacies and grocery stores .. That's all.
    Everything is completely masked, many wearing gloves and an antiseptic in pockets. No pharmacy - alcohol with glycerin.
    The bicycle has become a trend ..) Yes, and there are few of them who ride a bicycle.
    Hashtag - Sitting at home.
    1. depressant
      depressant April 1 2020 17: 20 New
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      And now I looked out the window - and there our plumbers, poor things, are coming back from a call to the housing office. Without masks-- masks are not for sale. It would seem that ZhEK had to make a fuss, to provide its workers with at least masks - but what a thing! There is no state, no it. And there is a punitive organization. Laws - for the government all nishtyaki, for the people - a noose.
      1. Razvedka_Boem
        Razvedka_Boem April 1 2020 17: 48 New
        +5
        For two months, we were forbidden from tax authorities to touch the business. For public utilities, they allowed to leave in the negative - light, gas will not be turned off.
        Uztelecom also said that the Internet and communications will not be disconnected, because many are on vacation now, and many are unpaid.
        Doctors working with the virus + 100% allowance and bonuses, those who are infected, there are several of them - $ 10.000 compensation, one virologist died before that died, the state also supported his family.
        On TV are online lessons for students.
        And much more - street disinfection for example. Irrigation-type cars go and release something like smoke there.
      2. Alf
        Alf April 1 2020 23: 38 New
        +6
        Quote: depressant
        Laws - for the government all nishtyaki, for the people - a noose.

        "Friends - everything, people - law".
      3. Den717
        Den717 April 2 2020 01: 53 New
        -3
        Quote: depressant
        Without masks-- masks are not for sale. It would seem that ZhEK had to make a fuss, to provide its workers with at least masks - but what a thing!

        Well, share your stocks ... Or can you just see? laughing
    2. Alf
      Alf April 1 2020 23: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: Razvedka_Boem
      Bike has become a trend ..)

  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk April 1 2020 16: 59 New
    +2
    And what with such hostility to pensioners? Just like our company. Provocative little article.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir April 1 2020 17: 05 New
    +5
    Self-rescue! But why do we need to pay taxes if the state has taken us away?
    1. Mestny
      Mestny April 1 2020 20: 38 New
      -12
      "Help fight the virus - don't pay taxes to this government!"
      1. New Year day
        New Year day April 1 2020 22: 59 New
        20
        Quote: Mestny
        "Help fight the virus - don't pay taxes to this government!"


        and what is the academician wrong? How did the government manage my taxes? Sechin paid compensation for Venezuela? Has Built Highly Effective Medicine? If your idol was forced to call, "this is a disaster!" Looks like it came to him, but the remaining doctors and the population are paying
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard April 1 2020 23: 19 New
          -7
          Quote: Silvestr
          How the state ordered mine taxes?

          And what taxes does a pensioner have, are you a pensioner?
        2. Alf
          Alf April 1 2020 23: 41 New
          +9
          Quote: Silvestr
          If your idol was forced to call, "this is a disaster!"

          When the factory collapses, directors are changed in the world, and workers in Russia. what
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 23: 19 New
      -11
      No problem: don’t pay taxes, but don’t call a doctor if you feel bad. Treat yourself with urine.
  • Sergst
    Sergst April 1 2020 17: 45 New
    +3
    Quote: Azim77
    .
    And do not refer to the flu or other diseases, from which more people die and more complications. According to them, there is a medicine and treatment methods are known. Against this virus is not yet. This is his main danger.

    But doctors say that not only there is no cure for flu, it is not for a single virus. So who to believe then?
  • dgonni
    dgonni April 1 2020 17: 46 New
    +4
    Explanatory article. Only the author is mistaken in one. Namely, that the first week has passed since the virus arrived. It’s been a month and a half since in Russia. It was allowed to talk about it a week ago. For already everything was floating out through social networks.
    And if the virus was only a week or a week ago, Sobyanin would not give a decree to build a special hospital, however, like the Moscow Region, build the same throughout Russia.
    And so correctly and competently. Respect
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 1 2020 18: 30 New
      +6
      Quote: dgonni
      It’s been a month and a half since in Russia.

      I symptomatically suffered from this muck a month ago. Only now the cough is clinging, dying.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog April 1 2020 19: 09 New
        +5
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: dgonni
        It’s been a month and a half since in Russia.

        I symptomatically suffered from this muck a month ago. Only now the cough is clinging, dying.

        Just Golikova said that they tested the blood for antibodies to this virus in 219 people and found antibodies in 9 .. that is, 5% have already been ill .. and according to my observations, it was from November 2019 to December 2020 .. December he was sick .. with a wild cough .. So the virus started with us, the Chinese simply recognized it and this can probably explain that now we have a low incidence compared to other countries .. hi
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 20: 34 New
          +3
          A surge in atypical ARVI in Russia has been seen since September. So that everything is possible. He was ill at the end of November and also with a cough, and without snot to my belt, which are obligatory for my body, with a cold. Wife's girlfriend, at the same time, got into Botkin with the flu? complicated pneumonia after talking with my family. And antibodies are good.
        2. Harry.km
          Harry.km April 1 2020 20: 57 New
          -1
          Quote: Svarog
          Golikova just said that they tested the blood for antibodies to this virus in 219 people and found antibodies in 9 ..

          Poke the link to the source. I did not find it on my own.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog April 1 2020 20: 58 New
            +5
            Quote: Harry.km
            Golikova just said that they tested the blood for antibodies to this virus in 219 people and found antibodies in 9 ..

            Poke the link to the source. I did not find it on my own.

            Lead 24 turn on, there they turn every half hour ..
            1. Harry.km
              Harry.km April 1 2020 21: 24 New
              +7
              Quote: Svarog
              News 24 turn on,

              Turned on, rewound, found her report ... Afigel! Her words literally mean the following. In Russia, the epidemic is already rushing when it began to be unknown and there are people who have been ill and there are at least 5% of them. Of course there is an option that someone, just in life, has antibodies to this infection ... From the realm of miracles, an option.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog April 1 2020 21: 31 New
                +8
                Quote: Harry.km
                Quote: Svarog
                News 24 turn on,

                Turned on, rewound, found her report ... Afigel! Her words literally mean the following. In Russia, the epidemic is already rushing when it began to be unknown and there are people who have been ill and there are at least 5% of them. Of course there is an option that someone, just in life, has antibodies to this infection ... From the realm of miracles, an option.

                That's what it is about .. she indirectly confirmed that about 5% of Russian citizens had already been ill, moreover, she confirmed that we had no diagnosis at all .. because the virus was discovered in China later than we had been ill with it.
                1. Harry.km
                  Harry.km April 1 2020 22: 04 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Svarog
                  the virus was discovered in China later than we had been ill with it.

                  The question is, what is happening now? If a part of the population is already resistant, from where 3000 people sharply ill come from ... Not all the same, they lived abroad and seized the infection there and drove home. And the percentage of carriers of antibodies is small ... only 5%, although everyone says that approximately 2 \ 3 of the population will be ill ... By the way, it is interesting, but those 25% who do not get sick, where will they go?
              2. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. April 1 2020 23: 23 New
                0
                Sick much more. Without pronounced symptoms, they were ill on their feet, many did not understand what it was. And now there are a lot of infected people. It is far from the fact that the infected person will get sick or get sick, but in an erased form. It all depends on immunity.
          2. New Year day
            New Year day April 1 2020 23: 02 New
            15
            Quote: Harry.km
            Poke the link to the source. I did not find it on my own.

            The country's chief sanitary doctor, Anna Popova, said that 18% of patients are asymptomatic carriers of a new coronavirus infection today. According to the UN mission in China, in late February, much more were identified - 75%.
        3. Tank hard
          Tank hard April 1 2020 23: 27 New
          -5
          Quote: Svarog
          and according to my observations

          Well, everything, to hell with WHO and so on, if Svarog watched, then this is the ultimate truth! angry
          Quote: Svarog
          in December he was ill .. with a wild cough .. So the virus started with us, it’s just that the Chinese recognized him and this probably can explain that now we have not a high incidence in relation to other countries ..

          wassat lol
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack April 1 2020 23: 32 New
            -7
            Quote: Tank Hard
            Quote: Svarog
            in December he was ill ... with a wild cough .. So the virus started with us

            Yes, damn it, who would doubt who the most important virus is here !!!

            Tank, my invitations !! hi drinks
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard April 1 2020 23: 35 New
              -4
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Tank, my invitations !!

              hi Strongly welcome! Svarog and Ingvar 72 made my evening! They also plus! good laughing
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack April 1 2020 23: 37 New
                -7
                Quote: Tank Hard
                They also plus

                Yes, and a bolt to it, at 29 love
                1. Tank hard
                  Tank hard April 1 2020 23: 40 New
                  -4
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Yes, and a bolt to it, at 29

                  Here, after all, what’s the matter, if you read the posts of Svarog and Ingvar 72, then with surprise you can find the culprits of the pandemic! They admit that it all started with them !!! belay Fearless individuals! hi
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack April 1 2020 23: 45 New
                    -9
                    Quote: Tank Hard
                    if you read the posts of Svarog and Ingvar 72

                    Then the bolt at 72 love
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard April 1 2020 23: 24 New
        -6
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I symptomatically suffered from this muck a month ago. Only now the cough is clinging, dying

        What did the test do and did it show you have COVID-19?
  • shubin
    shubin April 1 2020 18: 20 New
    +2
    I do not understand the hype that is being fanned around pensioners. Pensioners, basically, risk their health and life, everything just-got infected-got sick-died-the chain broke. At times more dangerous are the young boobies who returned from behind the hillock and did not pass the test, it was sewing in their ass. They can spread the virus without even knowing it.
  • Alexy
    Alexy April 1 2020 18: 56 New
    +3
    Brain coronavirus in most (((
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  • NordUral
    NordUral April 1 2020 20: 28 New
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    It would seem that it’s difficult: to sit at home if you don’t work? This is especially true for pensioners. This category will definitely drive us into the coffin, and only Mrs. Skvortsova can compete with them. But pensioners will crush the mass.

    Roman, you are throwing your lightnings in the wrong direction. I am also a pensioner, but I almost completely fulfill the conditions of self-isolation, I went out only to the store and pharmacy.
    I almost never met pensioners on the streets, more young and middle-aged.

    And one more thing - it’s not in our pensioners, and not in youth, but in those in power.
    THREE months have passed since the appearance of the coronavirus, and the non-humans in power only lie to us and do NOTHING to really stop the pandemic, and yet everything is still ahead. Only prohibitive measures, and even the almost complete lack of control over their implementation, will not save the situation.
    For three months, hundreds of thousands of Russian citizens rode across the borders, and no one knows how many people brought this shit. But we find out. Nature, on a crooked mare you will not go round.
    But medicine is not ready, there are no masks (let them, basically, be a psychological factor), lung ventilation devices are not enough (production, as it turns out from the video, isn’t at all !!!), there are few biological protection suits and so on (you yourself, like Konstantin Semin, raised this issue.
    And at this time, the "guarantor" sends two chock-full "Ruslans" to unfortunate, impoverished America. What does it mean?
    I personally understand this - THAT they’ve temporarily taken over the country, do not give a damn about how many of us will die, and they will say to the whole world that we are dead from old age, flu, bad behavior and so on, surrounded by respiratory devices, all the necessary medicines and provided care.
    They will protect themselves, as always, and there will be less "freeloaders" - pensioners.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog April 1 2020 20: 38 New
      +7
      Quote: NordUral
      And at this time, the "guarantor" sends two chock-full "Ruslans" to unfortunate, impoverished America. What does it mean?

      Sanctions are asked to be removed and they want to agree on oil .. otherwise, the economy is kirdyk and they themselves will come ..
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 1 2020 20: 51 New
        11
        Vladimir, I had a rhetorical question, for starters.
        And with THESE kirdyk has already come to us, just until it reaches us.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day April 1 2020 23: 07 New
          18
          Quote: NordUral
          just until it reaches us.

          comes to many, by the fall we will count chickens
          1. NordUral
            NordUral April 2 2020 12: 07 New
            0
            God grant this, so that everything becomes so!
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard April 1 2020 23: 30 New
        -6
        Quote: Svarog
        Sanctions are asked to be removed and they want to agree on oil .. otherwise, the economy is kirdyk and they themselves will come.

        Expert!!! fellow
        1. unaha
          unaha April 2 2020 09: 02 New
          +2
          Hmm ... But basically there is something to say? In my millionth city, there are no masks from the word at all, at least since mid-March. The minister suggests sewing them on his own (what the governor said was very angry, but did not offer an alternative). However, aid is sent to the United States, not to its citizens. Everyone makes conclusions.
          In my opinion, a person supporting the government’s concern not about his fellow citizens, but about strangers is either alternatively gifted or a banal troll.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard April 2 2020 11: 05 New
            -2
            Quote: unaha
            Hmm ... But basically there is something to say?

            In my personal opinion, I have said enough and say, the question is whether the listener is rational ... repeat
            Quote: unaha
            In my opinion, a person supporting the government’s concern not about his fellow citizens, but about strangers is either alternatively gifted or a banal troll.

            And in my opinion, an individual with a nickname
            unaha
            and such a wonderful profile is this one:
            Quote: unaha
            either alternatively gifted, or a banal troll.

            For this, I consider further dialogue with a similar one as counterproductive. request
    2. New Year day
      New Year day April 1 2020 23: 06 New
      19
      Quote: NordUral
      Only prohibitive measures, and even the almost complete lack of control over their implementation, will not save the situation.

      hi if this is not done, then the remnants of the national health care simply will not "digest" all patients and the mortality will be cosmic.
      Quote: NordUral
      And at this time, the "guarantor" sends two chock-full "Ruslans" to unfortunate, impoverished America. What does it mean?

      like what? - We are ours, bourgeois, we are blood brothers, take us to your flock
  • Den717
    Den717 April 1 2020 20: 54 New
    -3
    The country is slowly but surely rolling in tartarara. This is a fact, and perhaps soon we will not differ from Italy. The authorities demonstrate utter powerlessness, and the people, who as a whole saw this power, demonstrate complete disregard for all decrees and orders.

    Somehow you were not lucky either with the authorities or with the people ... You didn’t please, forgive me generously ... And what did you, a publication with a "reputation for unbiased and independent ...." do to make it different? With their publications, they diligently sowed hostility and distrust of the people towards their leadership ... Well, you get it - sign it.
    And in this regard, I want to give out another dose of confident criticism of everything and everyone.

    That at home they don't like you at all, that apart from criticism, nothing follows from under you? You got into the "analytics" section. Where is the analysis of anything in connection with the stated topic? In Novocherkassk, the infectious diseases hospital does not plan to admit patients with "corona"? God, what a horror ?! And during the coronavirus infection, simple dysentery was canceled? Well, yes, of course, there are complete people in the departments ... well, these, not quite literate, etc. The author of the letter is, of course, smarter than all of them on the head, just not appreciated ... In Voronezh, the hospital gives IVLs to unknown funds ... I will not discuss the places in which I do not live. We have, I know, the Department of ZO is aware of the amount of all the necessary equipment and materials required for this epidemic. It does not create any funds, everyone knows that if an exacerbation occurs at some point, there will be a team and working equipment with the necessary expenditure will be immediately supplied in the required amount. And I also know that a doctor from the ambulance team is not an ear or a snout in the processes and decisions that are organizationally made in his own hospital. Because it is not his business.
    the authorities are not able to do anything at all. No, in administrations and hospitals there are endless meetings, meetings, conferences, but in fact - puffing out cheeks and simulating intense activity.

    "Ah-ah! Fear the Russians, we will all die with such power" - this is your motto. Your contribution to the fight against the epidemic. However, on earth, this is what happens. In the Rostov region there are 643 ventilators, with a demand of 1521, in the Voronezh region - 348, against the required 860. Yes, it is not enough. But these figures are taken from government sources. This means that the current leadership of the country knows the state of the number of these devices and has a plan (this is known to those who need it and who are involved with the scheme) of maneuvering means when an exacerbation occurs in specific points of the country. There will be a need, in Voronezh within 200 hours they will increase the ventilator park up to 84% of the need, with a week's supply of consumption. Dear residents of Voronezh, Rostovites, contrary to the admonitions of Mr. Skomorokhov, you will not be thrown in trouble, besides you there are other subjects of the Russian Federation who will help, and on time. This author wants to assure you that you are a "spherical horse in a vacuum". I want to assure you, from our own production touch on the topic, there are XNUMX more subjects with a decent set of power, and they are ready to provide this assistance to you. And those who are supposed to know what you will need, what quality and in what completeness. True, if in the Novocherkassk emergency room there is a ventilator in an inoperative state, then the question is rather for you - why are they not working? And who is responsible for this? In conclusion, I would like to wish everyone health, a reasonable view of life, the ability to find information not only on VO or Channel One, but also in more reliable sources. We will cope with this infection, if we do not become a swan with cancer with a pike ... to spite all the buffoonery. Good luck everyone.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 2 2020 12: 22 New
      +1
      In conclusion, I want to wish everyone good health, a reasonable look at life, and the ability to find information not only on VO or Channel One, but also in more reliable sources.

      I ask these reliable sources to the stage!
      1. Den717
        Den717 April 2 2020 12: 47 New
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        Quote: NordUral
        I ask these reliable sources to the stage!

        Well, at least stopkoronovirus.rf
        1. NordUral
          NordUral April 2 2020 12: 50 New
          +1
          A good site for the initial familiarization with the problem with general wishes. Only.
  • Winnie76
    Winnie76 April 1 2020 20: 59 New
    +4
    I translate: someone does not have enough oxygen to fill the lungs, and someone will be at risk of lung rupture. Of course, you can put a regulator of the “crane” type and manually select the quantity. Most likely, this is done, because in the “super device”, apart from the idea of ​​a splitter, I could not see anything.

    It’s simpler and smarter to release four devices for four different people than it is not clear how to synchronize Skvortsova’s IVL for four people.

    I am not a doctor, but as a Kipovian, I think the idea is quite working. As far as I understand, mechanical ventilation gives a stable oxygen pressure to each consumer. Having one compressor and ten gearboxes is many times cheaper than ten separate ventilators. And the reliability of such a system will be no lower.
    1. ycuce234-san
      ycuce234-san April 2 2020 07: 47 New
      +3
      The fittings for medical gas supply (centralized, for the entire hospital building) are far from news in themselves. But since there is not so much of it now in use, then, "following the results of the epidemic," it will have to be included in hospital repair programs and, apparently, in equipment for civil defense and emergency situations (for example, in public buildings and schools in large cities, in temporary hospitals): there will undoubtedly be other viruses and infections in the future. Its powerful production of such equipment with export potential and with it a specialized design bureau will need to be organized.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral April 2 2020 12: 27 New
      +2
      The more complex the system, the more unreliable the performance. Not to mention the possible problems with the filters.
      Yes, and devices on one are not so complicated so as not to quickly put them into production.
      I’ll say, as an amateur, but a techie would have quietly set up production in a short time, would have been younger, and most importantly with some initial funding and a guarantee of the purchase of products by the state, and at an honest price.
  • bandabas
    bandabas April 1 2020 21: 22 New
    +8
    There are no masks and never will be. We work further. Expeditionary team Gorelektroset.
    1. Den717
      Den717 April 1 2020 22: 12 New
      +4
      Quote: bandabas
      There are no masks and never will be.

      Why do you need them? Do you know how effective masks are from the crown? Here is a construction respirator type ffp-2 recommended. Some gauze dressings began to be sewn without any idea of ​​the physics of the process. They think that the virus is healthy, like an elk and gets stuck in a thread with horns laughing With bandages the same ...
      ".... The official position of the World Health Organization (WHO) on the ability of medical masks to protect against infection with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is as follows: Wearing a medical mask can contribute limiting the spread of certain respiratory infections. However wearing a mask alone is not a guaranteed barrier to viruses and should be combined with other measures.
      prevention including hand hygiene
      Source: https://www.stepandstep.ru/chelovek/zashchishchayut-li-maski-ot-koronavirusa/
      Those who served in the army and passed a mask tightness test through a camera with chloropicrin know what a loose fit of a rubber gas mask is. put on a mask on inspiration - a continuous gap. To achieve a tight fit to the skin of the face is impossible in principle. In theory, it is somewhat effective in coughing on the face of a patient, but not healthy, and no more than 2 hours ....
      1. bandabas
        bandabas April 2 2020 00: 25 New
        +3
        I know very well. Just talking about insanity. request
        1. Den717
          Den717 April 2 2020 01: 16 New
          -4
          Quote: bandabas
          Just talking about insanity.

          What do you see insanity? In what "continue to work"? Or is it that every media outlet (including VO) strives to disperse panic by all means? He does not have enough mechanical ventilation ... Of all the patients, 5-7% of patients need mechanical ventilation. The Voronezh region in the current equipment can handle up to 6000 thousand cases, according to statistics. And there there are 12 + 4 of them today .... And they promise purchases to those who have a shortage. No need to cry, we will survive.
          1. bandabas
            bandabas April 2 2020 09: 02 New
            0
            Don’t worry, dear.
            1. Den717
              Den717 April 2 2020 12: 39 New
              +1
              Quote: bandabas
              Don’t worry, dear.

              That you advise the author. He sings here that we will all die.
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 April 2 2020 23: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: Den717
            Of all patients with mechanical ventilation, 5-7% of patients are needed

            You tell Italians
            1. Den717
              Den717 April 2 2020 23: 55 New
              0
              Quote: Pilat2009
              You tell Italians

              This is our medical statistics speaks on the basis of the entire amount of data, ours, and Chinese, and Italian. And the Italians do not need to say, they themselves already know all this.
          3. bandabas
            bandabas April 4 2020 00: 20 New
            0
            Personally, I do not cry, I work. And, corresponding to the disease. when he should sit on self-isolation, and receive his salary at home. Only this is allowed, for my service. He wanted to, refused. There is no one to work. Insanity in the pearls of power.
      2. ycuce234-san
        ycuce234-san April 2 2020 09: 08 New
        +2
        the virus is healthy as an elk

        These drops are healthy as moose, even if they are invisible without a microscope. The virus is very much smaller than a drop because it is a large and complex molecule. But since it moves and survives outside the body almost exclusively in drops, the filter works, albeit very limitedly.
      3. NordUral
        NordUral April 2 2020 12: 29 New
        +1
        Masks - the appearance of caring for the people. But even they could not cope with them.
        1. Den717
          Den717 April 2 2020 12: 54 New
          -3
          Quote: NordUral
          Masks - the appearance of caring for the people

          And you sit at home when they say, do not rummage around, where not getting in and wash your hands before eating, or even more often. And you won’t have to take care of you. And in order to understand what we have dealt with and what we haven’t, compare our numbers with the Europe you are equating with. And if you don’t see much difference, then go to the optometrist or primary school. Yes, buy handkerchiefs, and then from yours, and not only from yours, despondency already from the monitor snot flow. I wish you all good health and optimism. laughing
          1. NordUral
            NordUral April 2 2020 12: 59 New
            +3
            To begin with - behave yourself, you should not be rude and instruct me. And the second - optimism should be based on reliable facts. But the first fact, look at the statistics of the increase in the incidence rate in Russia.
            And the third - such a relatively favorable situation (for now) - is the merit of the USSR, the remnants of what remains of it in health care.
            1. Den717
              Den717 April 2 2020 13: 06 New
              -3
              Quote: NordUral
              And the third - such a relatively favorable situation (for now) - is the merit of the USSR, the remnants of what remains of it in health care.

              The USSR has been gone for 30 years. What phantom pains you have. Live today, do not remember the Tatar invasion. Look at your profile picture and tell me who defeated the USSR. Those who led us under this flag to subbotniks in the 60-80s. Are you talking about the USSR who are you trying to make claims? Look in the mirror, all the troubles from there.
  • New Year day
    New Year day April 1 2020 22: 26 New
    18
    she presented some new “unparalleled in the world” ventilator device, which can be connected to up to four people!

    this is pure schizophrenia! And such schizophrenics destroyed healthcare!
    1. Den717
      Den717 April 2 2020 01: 07 New
      -4
      Quote: Silvestr
      this is pure schizophrenia!

      Or maybe you just don't know about new products. Shvabe not only can surprise you, she also surprised external more serious experts. To be honest, I do not see a fundamental impossibility. The main thing is that the performance of the device allows it. And to dissolve streams, to reduce them and to clean them is not a great invention. It's just that before the question was not about such a massive use. Now they, IVL, will be stamped in a fair amount, an epidemic will pass, and home-grown experts from medicine will conscientiously ruin all these surplus devices with their "careful" attitude (as in the hospital where they are, but do not work). And each of them is 10-13 million ... So who's the shiz-k, still need to see ...
    2. NordUral
      NordUral April 2 2020 12: 30 New
      +1
      No, Sylvester, these are criminals, it’s time for everyone to realize this!
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    1. Alf
      Alf April 1 2020 23: 47 New
      +7
      Quote: Horst78
      Author:
      Roman Skomorokhov
      at the first three reviews I understood who was writing. Further reading makes no sense. It’s a pity that Roman is up to that ***. Highly. Given his merits at VO 6 years ago.

      Write how the fight against the virus is heading for victory, give data on the falling number of sick-dead. Then Roman will be the first to give you a fat plus.
  • Azis
    Azis April 1 2020 23: 31 New
    +7
    Quote: LeonidL
    All weedy
    I disagree with you. An example of a Rostov doctor - he is everywhere on the ground outside Kropotkinskaya (or where was Putin shown there?). There are no PPE at all (except for some expensive IDA PPC) - neither in the warehouse, nor even more so in the open sale, something "left" can of course be found. Construction / household stores have already bought even dust masks, diesel-electric gloves, and there is no gauze in pharmacies. There was a chance to buy gauze in cuts from Uzbek-Tajiks in the market - the markets were closed. The bandages in pharmacies are only narrow, the mask cannot be sewn, plus the very density of the bandage must be taken into account - and on modern nets the mesh is almost a millimeter. The authorities are introducing a "self-isolation regime", for the violation of which the police are already starting to fine, however, who in what way, according to various articles of the Administrative Code - from 6.3 to 19.4-19.5, varying in amounts from 500-15 thousand rubles to the limits of imagination in the absence of a pass (taking into account the new thoughts of the State Duma), but the rules of law on the "regime of self-isolation" have not been established anywhere! What is it like? Not everything is gone?
    1. sen
      sen April 2 2020 06: 12 New
      +3
      If desired, you can buy on the Internet. Only there is expensive.
      Experts point out that masks cannot actually guarantee you protection from the virus - they only prevent infection when someone sneezes or coughs nearby.
      In addition, it is more difficult for you to bring the infection from your hands into the mouth if you are always covered with a mask.
      However, doctors believe that the danger of a mask is that a person has a false sense of security, because the mask almost immediately loses its function as soon as you scratch your nose or touch your lips.
      At the same time, a real danger can be prevented not by an ordinary mask, but by an N95 respirator equipped with a special filter.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 2 2020 12: 32 New
        0
        they only prevent infection when someone sneezes or coughs nearby.

        And sneezing in the mask, not you.
      2. NordUral
        NordUral April 2 2020 13: 09 New
        0
        Almost all of these masks and respirators are mostly a psychological factor.
        The last and most interesting respirator in this review is a respirator of the third protection category FFP3 - SPIROTEK VS 2300 V at a low price of about 190 rubles. It protects the respiratory system from aerosols at concentrations up to 50 MAC, filtering up to 99% of contaminants. FFP3 respirators are claimed to be able to trap bacteria, viruses and spores. In my opinion, rather than the viruses and spores themselves, but the dust on which they fly in the air, it sounds more realistic.
        FFP1 and FFP2 are practically useless, the former are not very protective against simple dust either (tested on personal experience in production).
        FFP3 - the only conditionally suitable.
        https://habr.com/ru/post/488490/
  • Sergey Artamonov
    Sergey Artamonov April 2 2020 00: 22 New
    +2
    And when it was different, for this, exercises are carried out. And this time it is so nervous that the power itself is age-old and at risk. They are frankly afraid of nothing, well, the flu (more precisely, SARS), a little more severe and prolonged with age-related (as always) risks. All the same, everyone should be ill sooner or later. The average mortality rate in Russia is even decreasing (because they were screwed up and not in the case of doctors). It will definitely benefit medicine, and people (especially those aged) are mortal, and sometimes unexpectedly mortal, where do we go?
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 2 2020 12: 33 New
      0
      And this time it is so nervous that the power itself is age-old and at risk.
      Exactly!
  • kieferandreas
    kieferandreas April 2 2020 00: 35 New
    0
    ha ha ha ha, and you so naively believe that the Russian people will behave completely girlfriendly than all the others? a mistake, a problem, everything goes according to the world’s plan and the Russians simply can’t do it differently, everyone who floats against the blocked stream will be morally destroyed and then arrested and physically finished, nobody wants that, no one wants to go under the bullets. everyone is afraid of each for his own, and I am silent until the throat of the knife is not delivered; I will be silent, just like everyone else.
    they will all chip soon and will be silent further. a plan to enslave the world is creeping slowly but surely.
    This virus is not much worse than the flu, and it is used by all people on the planet to put under control.
    well, or war, since no one hesitates to the war, they decided to remove the old and weak, they say there is no sense in them, only harm (the old people still remember some freedom), and it will be easier to rule the rest of those unaware and through smartphones looking at the world with them.
    1. Alf
      Alf April 2 2020 00: 57 New
      +2
      Hold, give!
      1. kieferandreas
        kieferandreas April 2 2020 01: 47 New
        +2
        thanks, I’m not helping anyone, I admit the grammar (in any language) was always 2 but the literature is 5, and in my case only the grave will correct the hunchback.
        Thanks for the help offered.
        By the way, this is not irony.
        1. Alf
          Alf April 2 2020 20: 51 New
          0
          Quote: kieferandreas
          Thanks for the help offered.
          By the way, this is not irony.

          No offense. hi
    2. NordUral
      NordUral April 2 2020 12: 34 New
      0
      I agree, we are cowards. And so it will be to the very edge, and maybe to the sad end. Hopes are becoming less, if we do not come to our senses.
  • Alexey G
    Alexey G April 2 2020 01: 42 New
    -3
    laughing I believe that quarantine should be extended from a week to a month, and preferably 40 days and nights! You can cancel all the holiday weekends that follow this difficult year! And if this is not enough, then at the expense of part of the vacation of citizens.
    The second one. It would be right to put faculty in parks and squares in those cities where citizens did not understand why quarantine! If this is not enough, then you can still drive patrol cars around the yards, drive shopkeepers! To disperse all who stagger idle. Give the cops the right to be tough. Introduce a curfew.
    The third. Intensify the sale of masks or materials from which they can be sewn at home! Send instructions for optimal sewing on the Internet. Do not let people without masks in pharmacies and boutiques! Let them sew even from gauze, even from a wide bandage, even from a diaper! You can then fine those who do not wear it! The same goes for gloves! And maybe points!
    Fourth. It is high time to schedule the entry of outsiders into the cities. Allow only foodstuffs and raw materials for enterprises, medical supplies and household chemicals ... You can organize unloading in special places and let the trucks go back, and then deliver them on your own. No shuttles and business trips !!!
    Fifth. Intensify the process of creating a vaccine.
    Sixth. Show good movies on TV, create a site where you can download free computer games, films and more. Make quarantine interesting for young people and adults.
    1. kieferandreas
      kieferandreas April 2 2020 02: 10 New
      +3
      in short, in Switzerland:
      ban on meeting more than 5 people. the distance between the persons is at least 2 meters for violating the 2000 fine, but people are still afraid so that no one is closer and unsuitable, the whole open sector is wearing gloves and masks, those over 65 on the street after 19h do not receive a fine of 5000.
      a short day regime has been introduced, many are being fired, if this situation lasts until the end of summer, then companies will start to fail in 4 months, benefits from the country may be available but hardly anyone will get anything, then it’s cooler than Russian and there’s not enough money for a bribe.
      Let me remind you that every 3rd citizen has a weapon legally. and what can begin here, none of us knows.
      everyone hopes that soon this will end, the Chinese managed in 3 months, so 2 more theoretically remained.
      Health to all of you, it’s definitely not good.
    2. aglet
      aglet April 2 2020 12: 35 New
      0
      seventh. call the blue helicopter.
      1. Alexey G
        Alexey G April 4 2020 12: 03 New
        0
        Call him yourself! Let's see how you keep your puffy calm with a lung ventilation device in the throat and a tube for food in the stomach !! laughing
    3. NordUral
      NordUral April 2 2020 12: 37 New
      0
      I agree, only tough without fail for ALL.
      And it is very sensible - grocery stores in pharmacies (the rest should be tightly closed) - only in a mask. Now I myself will be the only way.
    4. Alf
      Alf April 2 2020 20: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Alexey G
      The second one. It would be right to put faculty in parks and squares in those cities where citizens did not understand why quarantine! If this is not enough, then you can still drive patrol cars around the yards, drive shopkeepers! To disperse all who stagger idle. Give the cops the right to be tough. Introduce a curfew.

      Here is yesterday's photo from my Samara.

      What will happen tomorrow, I'm afraid to even think. By the way, the machine guns uncovered ...
      1. Alexey G
        Alexey G April 3 2020 23: 23 New
        +1
        Do not be afraid! Nothing can be worse than democracy! As old Bismarck used to say: "Gegen Demokraten helfen nur Soldaten!" Or only soldiers will help to overcome democracy! laughing
  • Nedokomsomolets
    Nedokomsomolets April 2 2020 02: 52 New
    +3
    Right now I’ll smash you up a little bit: the export price of oil has become negative. And we continue to ship it. That is, we give oil and still pay to the buyer the recipient of the money so that he takes it.
    1. sen
      sen April 2 2020 05: 37 New
      +3
      The fight for markets. But the Saudis will not be enough for a long time. Trump is already intensely asking for negotiations.
      1. sen
        sen April 2 2020 09: 50 New
        +3
        Chinese oil refineries entered into contracts for the supply in April of more than a million tons of Russian oil. The economy of China is recovering from the coronavirus epidemic, enterprises are resuming work, and the demand for fuel in the country is growing. For domestic oil companies, this could be a key factor for success in the price war on the world market.
        https://ria.ru/20200402/1569454313.html
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 April 2 2020 23: 38 New
          0
          Quote: sen
          can be a key factor in success in the price war in the global market.

          You face the truth. What kind of market conquest can there be with an overabundance of oil? Yesterday, the Urals went to minus
      2. Alf
        Alf April 2 2020 20: 56 New
        0
        Quote: sen
        But the Saudis will not be enough for a long time.

        We would be long enough. By the term "us" I mean not the government, but the common people amid rising prices.
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  • eskulap
    eskulap April 2 2020 06: 28 New
    +3
    A few thoughts to think about:
    - The epidemic was planned, why?
    - changed the government to "digital cameras"
    - the incidence of acute respiratory infections in an incomprehensible course began long before the development of mortality
    - mortality and morbidity can be easily controlled - by local application of a truly deadly virus (China, Italy), to include pensioners who are seriously ill in the mortality from the virus; the incidence of the crown is regulated - the results are easy to fake;
    -the real emergency situations are not introduced (it is necessary to shell out) but they work out electronic control methods (launch of an electronic concentration camp), they also introduce laws that make it easy to violate the rights of citizens, create tension and intimidate (horse fines); laws on MANDATORY vaccination have been adopted - a vaccine which has not yet been tested; for this case, diagnosis and control of coronavirus inf. by CHIP method - quantum dots from beat gates (when did you manage?)
    -Moreover, the calls of politicians to COMBINE efforts and create a focal point / world government headed by a "tough manager / leader" (chozenwang).
    - the last - there will be no return to the normal world (quarantine / threat of infection of the epidemic will continue) - otherwise why did everything start
    -yes remember - "Resident Evil", "12 monkeys", etc. - ideas ripened ...
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 2 2020 12: 38 New
      +1
      So we are thinking about how this infection is used by those in power around the world.
  • Awaz
    Awaz April 2 2020 07: 08 New
    +1
    Well, yes, the author is generally right. Watching what is happening around, it is obvious that our medicine is not at all ready. The situation is developing according to the Italian scenario. The hope that the main carriers of the infection have entrenched themselves in Moscow and will be isolated there is not very justified. And if in Moscow they’re trying to identify something at least, then in the rest of Russia everything is left to chance. And it can jerk anywhere.
    You must understand that there is no cure for this infection. Like not, as I think, and some kind of serious understanding among doctors that it is and how it affects people. It’s good if we all basically get sick (or have already gotten sick) in a mild form and develop immunity.
    As an example. My mother-in-law got into the hospital with pressure. In the ward, besides her, there were two aunts with inflammation !!!! lungs. Since the infection is crowded. These aunts were tested for coronavirus. Probably not. But, even in our deaf district center, several people were already taken to the regional hospital with suspicion. And like two already with confirmed infection.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral April 2 2020 12: 40 New
      +1
      Tens of thousands returned, still will return. And they will surely bring us infection. We must prepare for this virus invasion.
  • Starter52
    Starter52 April 2 2020 07: 47 New
    0
    And who the hell are doctors writing to some editorial office? They don’t have their bosses? Bullshit all these letters. . It is necessary to work on the ground and not to scribble a scribble dubious ......
  • Vladimir Ilyich
    Vladimir Ilyich April 2 2020 08: 56 New
    +2
    And who told you about "we'll get over it and that's it"? A simple flu comes here every year, in different modifications, the coronavirus has the same nature and it can mutate just like the usual flu, the whole difference is that people die from it more often. Yes, with the arrival of hot days, the epidemic will subside, but then autumn, winter and spring will come, so what? Will he disappear, or will a miracle vaccine be invented from him and no one else will get sick? Then why do they get the common flu and other viral infections every year?
  • Oleg1
    Oleg1 April 2 2020 08: 58 New
    -2
    The country is slowly but surely rolling in tartarara. This is a fact, and perhaps soon we will not differ from Italy. The authorities demonstrate utter powerlessness, and the people, who as a whole saw this power, demonstrate complete disregard for all decrees and orders.
    Did the people as a whole see this power? And the elections and polls show something else that generally supports this power ... Does everyone lie? Only the unworthy author of the article is not lying? Ahhhh, call the orderlies!

    Again, it was said in the zombie box that ginger root and lemon could protect against coronavirus ...
    Who does not understand, the box is for us, but we are ZOMBIES ....
    And then who is the author of the article?
    "Power demonstrates complete powerlessness,"
    hmm .... why do we have a deadline for the epidemic and the number of cases is much less than in the West? Is power powerless? Here, either remove the cross or ... or is it powerless or our results are not as bad as in the West ... Where is the logic? But the logic and the author of the article are opposite concepts.
    And ZY "And in this regard, I would like to issue another dose of confident criticism of everything and everyone. Starting from the government, demonstrating just the wonders of polite, and ending with the people showing indifference."
    Wrong people for the author? But I think this author is not the one ...
  • Li17
    Li17 April 2 2020 09: 00 New
    +2
    but in general, thanks to the author! For the individuals of the system "hurray + forward + we have everything ....." it is enough to talk to the employees of medical institutions in their own city and go to the pharmacy! By the way, in Novocherkassk there was a scandal with the closure of an infectious diseases hospital, and there is also no one to work for those salaries that are in reality and not in cheerful reports!
  • Oleg1
    Oleg1 April 2 2020 09: 05 New
    0
    "And in this regard, I would like to issue yet another dose of confident criticism of everything and everyone. Starting from the government, demonstrating just the wonders of politeness, and ending with the people demonstrating indifference."
    A patriot can criticize the people, the government, and a person alien to the country who hates it, will act like this: "I want to give another dose of confident criticism to everything and everyone."
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  • Oleg1
    Oleg1 April 2 2020 09: 22 New
    -1
    Quote: EvilLion
    Again Buffoon sausages. We all will die!

    But something tells me that he’s just not happy that he’s not going to die .... here’s one for liberals PICHALKA ....
  • Esaul
    Esaul April 2 2020 10: 03 New
    0
    Something to me, this cow virus more and more resembles a global experiment on humanity.
  • AB
    AB April 2 2020 10: 12 New
    +3
    for once, the doctor has become more important and more important than a pop singer, a football player. How long?

    As soon as the bacchanalia with the so-called Global Pandemic ends, they will immediately forget about the doctors, and again, by strategic reserves they will mean cut paper in the form of money ...
  • aglet
    aglet April 2 2020 10: 53 New
    +1
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Once again convinced that Roman Skomorokhov is a skilled alarmist

    turn on your cerebellum, read the article, look out the window, and compare, if you can, of course
  • aglet
    aglet April 2 2020 10: 57 New
    0
    Quote: LeonidL
    Only now people in power do business, they pulled out a country from one shit and now they pull it out of another

    the country itself tried to get out of that crap, it didn’t grow together, people from power plunge it into another
    1. Oleg1
      Oleg1 April 2 2020 12: 00 New
      0
      Quote: aglet
      Quote: LeonidL
      Only now people in power do business, they pulled out a country from one shit and now they pull it out of another

      the country itself tried to get out of that crap, it didn’t grow together, people from power plunge it into another

      I remembered that the country won in 45 against STALIN ... the manuals of the liberals do not change ...
      Dip, is it Putin personally developed the coronovirus and personally distributes it? Ah rn a traitor!
  • aglet
    aglet April 2 2020 11: 06 New
    -1
    Quote: AS Ivanov.
    The whole country knew about the terrorist attack in Nord Ost, no one hid it, on the contrary they called from every iron

    and from which most of the victims died, were they also transferred along the irons?
  • vel1163
    vel1163 April 2 2020 11: 07 New
    +2
    Correct article. We heard about a safe haven in 2008. Italy also started with 10 people. And the fact that they cannot shoot speculators with masks is only helpless. But this is now a matter of prime necessity. Our governor was surprised: “What kind of people walk without masks.” Sorry, a piece of rag is more expensive than a condom. Who can buy for 50 rubles. mask for 2 hours. Paid tests for coronavirus! Yes, they themselves should run after people and do tests. On TV they got tired of telling how bad it was in Ukraine. It would be better to trumpet about these problems.
    1. Alf
      Alf April 2 2020 21: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: vel1163
      It would be better about these problems trumpeted.

      If you sound about these problems, you will have to indicate who is to blame.
  • aglet
    aglet April 2 2020 11: 10 New
    -1
    Quote: AS Ivanov.
    But about the terrorist attack in the Moscow metro in 1977 were silent

    why were they silent? hachi - russia bhai-bhai, that's why. they wrote about the stadium, about the explosion of ammunition, I don’t remember, they didn’t write about cholera in the south of Russia, because it was not there, I myself live in the south of Russia
  • aglet
    aglet April 2 2020 11: 15 New
    -1
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Will we all die? Or only half?

    die all, but at different times
  • aglet
    aglet April 2 2020 11: 19 New
    -1
    Quote: bk316
    Very competent specialists work in them, some I personally know

    weak guarantee of their professionalism. I don’t know you personally, so what?