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“Let's talk about science”: scientists have found out which metal coronavirus COVID-19 is “afraid” of surfaces

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Under the heading “Let's Talk About Science”, “Military Review” tried to collect data from leading scientists and virological laboratories of the world, published over the past few days on the characteristics of a new type of coronavirus infection.


In the scientific journal "New Infectious Diseases" an international group of scientists from the USA, France and China published an article that tells about the calculated serial interval of the spread of the virus.

We are talking about the time that passes before the manifestation of the disease in two people with the coronavirus COVID-19 - in a person who infected himself and who became infected from him.

A group of scientists claims that for COVID-19, the serial interval was less than seven days - when researching in different countries. If we talk about statistics for China, then the interval is approximately 4 days.

From the publication:

The speed of a pandemic depends on two main factors: how many people each infected person infects and how long it takes for the infection to spread between people. The first value is called the playback indicator; the second is a sequential (serial) interval. The short burst interval of COVID-19 means that new flashes will grow rapidly and be difficult to stop.

Scientists noted that the serial interval for COVID-19 is significantly lower than, for example, for Ebola: 4-7 days versus several weeks.
Scientists report that research has revealed that every tenth case of transmission of a new coronavirus is from a person who has not yet felt any of his symptoms.

From the article:

Asymptomatic transmission makes pandemic containment significantly more difficult.

It is worth saying that the study was funded by the US National Institute of Health and the National Natural Science Foundation of China.

Another study talks about the stability parameters of the coronavirus COVID-19. The results of the study were published in the Medical Journal by scientists at Princeton University and the US National Institute of Health.

A study of COVID-19 showed that coronavirus is stable in air (in medical terminology - in a natural aerosol environment) and on surfaces from three hours to several days. The greatest retention time was recorded on plastic and, which was surprising, on stainless steel - more than 24 hours. But, for example, on a copper surface, the virus dies within 4 hours. It is argued that it is precisely the copper surfaces of SARS-CoV-2, so to speak, that it is “more afraid”. It is clear that the word “afraid” is more than arbitrary, since 4 hours for the virus is enough time to find a more suitable “carrier” for itself.

In a special laboratory, Rocky Mountain (USA) conducted a comparative analysis of two coronavirus infections: the current SARS-CoV-2 and its predecessor SARS-CoV-1. It turned out that the new coronavirus is significantly more tenacious.

Meanwhile, scientists Xi Licin, Tao Yi, Charles D. Cruz and Lokesh Sharma published an article that presented a study of cured patients. The material says that the average age of the studied cured was the age of about 35 years. A professor at the Yale School of Medicine, Lokesh Sharma, says that even after the symptoms of coronavirus infection completely disappeared, about half of the patients continued to be active carriers of coronavirus, which might not have manifested itself once or twice. Only two weeks later, the cured patients completely lost their ability to infect other people. That is why the mentioned experts advise to extend quarantine for an additional two weeks, even for those whose tests for coronavirus show a negative result.

Scientists Marion Parisis, Sylvia Behillill, Duke Nguyen and others presented data on the study of one of the first cases of new coronavirus in Europe. We are talking about patients at the clinics of Bordeaux and Paris (France). Patients are reportedly five Chinese citizens who came to France in mid-January. Their ages are from 30 to 80 years. It turned out that in an 80-year-old man, the so-called viral load was maximum (we are talking about the concentration of coronavirus in the tissues) of all five patients in French hospitals.

From the study:

An 80-year-old patient died on the 14th day of illness. Maximum viral load was determined in the upper and lower respiratory tract, as well as in plasma.

As it turned out, in women 30 and 46 years old, the main phase of the disease was asymptomatic. At the same time, viral RNA was detected by doctors in their feces. They eventually recovered, as did men aged 31 and 48. It is noteworthy that in men, tests showed the presence of coronavirus in smears from the nasopharynx.

“Let's talk about science”: scientists have found out which metal coronavirus COVID-19 is “afraid” of surfaces


Based on the study, which then spread to other patients, it was concluded that the diagnosis of COVID-19 can effectively detect the disease only with a comprehensive study: not only of the nasopharynx biomaterials, but also in the analysis of blood, urine and feces. In addition, scientists report three forms of the course of the disease: mild, severe and critical. However, the transition between them is still not fully understood.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 30 March 2020 19: 55 New
    +6
    Well, I've already heard about copper, but I wonder how this virus gets along with silver? Yes, the virus is still bad with aluminum.
    1. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 30 March 2020 20: 04 New
      +5
      Will copper sulfate work?
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 30 March 2020 20: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Will copper sulfate work?

        Manganese, ash, ash from a rapper or from a rocker - is it better? and which girls are better?
        1. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 30 March 2020 20: 37 New
          +5
          I'm serious. Copper sulfate is one of the best disinfectants.

          Helps against fungal diseases. Widely used in animal husbandry.
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            2. Irokez
              Irokez 30 March 2020 21: 31 New
              +4
              Also the state company "RF Armed Forces" has developed a fashionable set of clothes "OZK" - all in one. Mask, suit, shoes. It turned out to be very effective against coronavirus, when tested on two volunteers, one showed no signs of disease, the second (bottom right) suffered from infection. The picture is attached.
          2. astepanov
            astepanov 30 March 2020 20: 53 New
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            Quote: Ilya-spb

            Helps against fungal diseases.

            Firstly, not fungal, but fungal. Secondly, you can, of course, wash your hands with vitriol, but alcohol solutions are both safer and more enjoyable. Thirdly, inside vitriol will help only in one thing: you will die before you become infected. They can not be treated. And with alcohol - you can;)
            1. Ilya-spb
              Ilya-spb 30 March 2020 20: 58 New
              0
              The opinion of experts. Alcohol solution from 65 degrees will help against coronovirus. When taken orally)) vodka will not help (((

              PS For more correctness, I will write "diseases caused by fungi")).
              1. zulusuluz
                zulusuluz 30 March 2020 21: 08 New
                +2
                You're not right. Doctors say that the alcohol content in the solution should be at least 65 degrees. And man is 80% water.
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 31 March 2020 08: 40 New
                  0
                  Quote: zulusuluz
                  And man is 80% water.
                  those. per 100 kg of body weight drink at least 150 liters of alcohol? Unreal.
              2. Simargl
                Simargl 31 March 2020 08: 35 New
                +1
                Quote: Ilya-spb
                For more correctness, I will write "diseases caused by fungi"
                From mushrooms mental disorders. Alcohol will only aggravate.
              3. NIKN
                NIKN 31 March 2020 14: 16 New
                0
                The most effective remedy against coronavirus is a glass of alcohol, three times a day. In the second week of prevention, viruses become visible to the naked eye, and they can be destroyed with a regular fly swatter.
            2. Grandfather
              Grandfather 30 March 2020 21: 17 New
              -1
              Quote: astepanov
              They can not be treated. And with alcohol - you can;)

              here ...
            3. Rzzz
              Rzzz 31 March 2020 00: 58 New
              0
              It is believed that ethanol solutions of less than 60% are not disinfectants.
            4. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 31 March 2020 13: 18 New
              +1
              Quote: astepanov
              They can not be treated. And with alcohol - it is possible;

              I recalled a joke about a speech therapist ...
              The patient comes to the speech therapist and asks him:
              - Is it possible to use the Cicero method to cure stuttering - to speak, having typed pebbles in the mouth, trying to shout out the noise of the surf?
              Speech Therapist Answer:
              - Not only "mona", but also "nuna" !!! (from)
              Therefore, ALCOHOL, for sure, is BETTER !!!
              Although, you can try cognac! Also, you know, nothing ... yourself ... very disinfected ... even memory, if you sort it out ... recourse
              Therefore - it is possible ... BUT - To the best!

              And at the same time, of course,
          3. dzvero
            dzvero 30 March 2020 21: 47 New
            0
            It helps, but, as astepanov has already noted, in no way internally. Hands can be washed, but then be sure to rinse well with water. Copper ions are very toxic. Better alcohol 40 - 70% (70% is what the doctor prescribed, but if not, then 40% vodka will work). By the way, a winter washer for glass -60 ° C with ethanol (!) Can also be used as a disinfectant if nothing else is at hand.
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 31 March 2020 08: 42 New
              +1
              Quote: dzvero
              Better alcohol 40 - 70%
              Which one then? on sale, in large volumes, you can find only isopropyl, and it stinks like ... ugly ...
              Ethanol was banned by our "smart guys" ...
              1. dzvero
                dzvero 31 March 2020 09: 23 New
                +1
                Ethyl, of course. Singe vodka, untreated moonshine will do. Denatured alcohol (ethanol with methanol and paint, sold as alcohol for spirits, burning, I don’t know what you call it) only in the most extreme case.
                Pure methyl cannot even be used for hand washing. It is absorbed through the skin with all the consequences ... Vapors are also not ice ... Although for open surfaces with good ventilation (external door handles, touch after drying) will do. Isopropanol is possible, the concentrations are about the same, but the efficiency is lower. In some shampoos were added (seen in the composition), the washing ability is slightly higher. If used, use caution as with methanol. By no means inward smile , indoors only as a last resort.
                By the way, for washing hands, you can use 1-3% peroxide, as well as a weak solution of potassium permanganate. Another option for washing hands is a 45% solution of urea (urea, used as a fertilizer in agriculture). Urea is not a disinfectant, it denatures proteins, destroys bacterial cells and the viral membrane (here options are already possible). You can add a little washing powder or soap to the solution (half a gram - a gram per liter). Be sure to rinse your hands with plenty of water after washing.
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 31 March 2020 09: 33 New
                  +2
                  Methyl for sale to the public is prohibited.
                  Ethyl, too (I, truth, found an illegal channel, but they can kill me if they find out that I wash their hands).
                  Isopropyl is freely sold, it is 3,5 times more toxic than ethanol (if you drink it), and probably more toxic to viruses ...

                  PS
                  I was indignant at the ban on the sale of ethanol ...
                  1. dzvero
                    dzvero 31 March 2020 09: 39 New
                    +1
                    Not understood, sorry drinks that's why I rolled the "sheet". Although, infa may be useful to someone. Let and as a warning when using unconventional disinfection methods.
                    By the way, you can not abruptly tie up with bad habits. For the body, this is stress.
                    Good luck and beware.
                    1. Simargl
                      Simargl 31 March 2020 13: 23 New
                      +1
                      Quote: dzvero
                      By the way, you can not abruptly tie up with bad habits.
                      In-in! It’s necessary to eat less, but I can’t ...
                      More sports ... but I can’t do it ...
                      Alcohol won 12 years ago, the smoke was not attached.
                      Quote: dzvero
                      Good luck and beware.
                      Have a nice one you too!
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 March 2020 20: 49 New
          0
          Quote: Dead Day
          which girls are better?
          Thicker and more vodka! wassat
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        3. Grim Reaper
          Grim Reaper 31 March 2020 08: 58 New
          0
          Girls are better than those nearby. wink
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      3. zulusuluz
        zulusuluz 30 March 2020 21: 01 New
        +3
        Copper sulfate will work. But as a laxative.
        1. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 30 March 2020 21: 02 New
          0
          Use only externally!
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 30 March 2020 21: 27 New
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        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Will copper sulfate work?

        Well, now there is no copper dishes, except for coffee "Turks" and aluminum plates, but the crown brought everyone to their knees well. I live in a small Baltic country, from which there was a lot of stench, and when Karona 19 came to the country, this Karona just brought everyone to their knees. even in my office building out of 25, 7 have already gone bankrupt, 5-6 more will not be able to pay rent (now), next to the restaurant and the Sidra store have been liquidated. Lives just opposite the company operating since 1898 "Liviko", a distillery. On the contrary, it increased production, and the Saku brewery. Small businesses are dying. I may soon stop communicating, because my company will also be closed. Everything falls into decay. Has now turned off the heating.
        1. demo
          demo 30 March 2020 22: 11 New
          +4
          Not sweet. Sorry. Hold on.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 31 March 2020 07: 50 New
            +1
            Quote: demo
            Not sweet. Sorry. Hold on.

            Yes, at least they haven’t taken away their pension, but they have already started cutting salaries. I am an office manager, and I designed my wife there too. already in a month today my wife received but 100, and I am 80 euros less. Well, although not yet closed. And where is better now, maybe only in Africa?
            1. demo
              demo 31 March 2020 11: 59 New
              0
              I will remind you.
              "Well, where we do not". hi
            2. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 31 March 2020 12: 16 New
              +1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              retirement not taken

              My former teacher lives in Liepaja. She is 93 years old, how she copes there ... But she writes to me in OK, so she is holding on.
              And you patience and good luck. hi
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 31 March 2020 15: 01 New
                +2
                Quote: Uncle Lee
                And you patience and good luck.

                I wish you the same. Thank.
      5. dauria
        dauria 30 March 2020 22: 35 New
        +2
        Will copper sulfate work?


        Of course. And also plain water with soap. But you can wash your hands even with cyanide, even with V-gases, sarin ... If there are no scratches. The skin is excellent armor, even the military poisonous substances do not pass until the whole. Shampoo vitamins, by the way, also do not miss laughing Only mucous or scratched.
        Do not be fooled. Better clean with water and finally cut your nails - dirt with germs love them.
        1. Kerensky
          Kerensky 31 March 2020 05: 43 New
          0
          The skin is excellent armor, even the military poisonous substances do not pass until the whole.

          And EGDN?
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 31 March 2020 08: 03 New
          0
          Quote: dauria
          Of course. And also plain water with soap.

          Copper sulphate has been working since the times of the USSR, in one of the republics, next to the Western Shipyard, there was the village of Smiltene (we climbed over the fence), and they drove Chemerges and Sharma, but for their people pure moonshine. tobacco, "cheerges" on copper sulfate. (Young people will now twist their fingers at their temples, and those who are older will say that they also drove us to the sale).
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      7. Olgovich
        Olgovich 31 March 2020 10: 58 New
        -1
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        Will copper sulfate work?

        Guillotine, I think, will work recourse
        scientists Xi Li-qin

        Typo? recourse
        Correctly Lee si qin
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 30 March 2020 20: 07 New
      +6
      It is worth saying that the study was funded by the US National Institute of Health and the National Natural Science Foundation of China.

      Both main beneficiaries are exploring a new coronavirus .. symbolically ..
      Recently, too often and a lot of them began to appear .. Starting in 2002- Atypical pneumonia, 2009- Swine flu, 2003–2013- Avian influenza, 2014 -Poliomyelitis, 2014-Ebola, 2020: Coronavirus ...
      Interestingly, this is how the diagnostics advanced or laboratories began to be created regularly .. It seems that the world's population has turned into a guinea pig ..
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        2. astepanov
          astepanov 30 March 2020 20: 56 New
          +8
          Quote: Round smesharik
          Yes, they began to eat antibiotics that constantly advertise .. And these are only new viruses spread ..

          Do you think viral infections are treated with antibiotics? Contact the Nobel Committee, you will definitely be awarded the Nobel Prize.
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          2. venik
            venik 30 March 2020 23: 27 New
            +7
            Quote: astepanov
            Do you think viral infections are treated with antibiotics?

            ========
            With these "viruses" - it's just a disaster !:

            laughing lol
            --------
            Quote: astepanov
            Contact the Nobel Committee, you will definitely be awarded the Nobel Prize.

            ========
            I don't know about the Nobel Prize, but the Shnobel Prize is easy!
            PS Who does not know: the Shnobel Prize is a parody of a prestigious international award. Ten "Shnobel" prizes are awarded at the beginning of October, that is, at the time when the laureates of the real Nobel Prize are named - "for achievements that make you laugh first, and then think" ... laughing what
            1. primaala
              primaala 31 March 2020 00: 04 New
              -3
              We must call the police from Rublevka ...)))
      2. astepanov
        astepanov 30 March 2020 21: 02 New
        +4
        Quote: Svarog
        Both major beneficiaries are exploring the new coronavirus ..

        Well, the first beneficiary is clear: this is the Pension Fund. And who is the second one?
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 30 March 2020 21: 20 New
          0
          Quote: astepanov
          Well, the first beneficiary is clear: this is the Pension Fund. And who is the second one?

          and who gets for two? wassat
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 30 March 2020 21: 30 New
          -3
          Quote: astepanov
          Quote: Svarog
          Both major beneficiaries are exploring the new coronavirus ..

          Well, the first beneficiary is clear: this is the Pension Fund. And who is the second one?

          Pension Fund .. yes yes .. there is no doubt ..
          China receives cheap oil, the United States nullifies debts, the exact way this will happen is not yet known .. but yesterday there was an article at VO .. Senators there are preparing another Marshall plan .. Well, the United States and China .. Yes, it’s beneficial for all partners to see Russia weakened .. and the crown and a weakening of the currency by 30% will greatly weaken ..
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 30 March 2020 21: 58 New
            +4
            With what kind of jail and who is the US zeroing debts? Return from your parallel world to the earth.
          2. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 30 March 2020 21: 58 New
            +1
            The United States, as a leading oil producing state, a drop in oil prices is very profitable.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 30 March 2020 22: 00 New
              -1
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              The United States, as a leading oil producing state, a drop in oil prices is very profitable.

              The share of the oil and gas industry in the US economy is -7%, and if we remove domestic consumption, then less than a percent ..
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 30 March 2020 23: 05 New
                0
                7% of the US economy - not that 1,7 trillion green so let’s think a trifle.
          3. Simargl
            Simargl 31 March 2020 08: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: Svarog
            Pension Fund .. yes yes .. there is no doubt ..

            Quote: Simargl
            23 March 2020 19: 38
            Judging by the distribution of mortality (up to 40 years - 0,4%, after 60 years - 14%), this is a conspiracy of pension funds.
    3. knn54
      knn54 30 March 2020 20: 55 New
      +1
      It has long been noted that copper has an antibacterial effect, it prevents bacteria and fungi from entering food.
      From the ancient Egyptian scrolls it is known that Cleopatra drank golden water. It was believed (I think, not without reason) that she saved from diseases and from poisons. The benefits of "drinking gold" have been known for a long time.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 30 March 2020 21: 27 New
        +1
        primaala (Alla) Today, 19:59
        0
        No doubt. Scientists of the world are the same bullshit ... you’re not your slander, pretending to be an alley, you covered yourself with a sheet, and suddenly you didn’t become fascist, but your teeth in the form of a swastika and rare hair, on the skull of Auschwitz, yes ... glnika ... about the future .. God forbid you guys ...
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 March 2020 21: 59 New
        +1
        Only in dishes, copper is almost never used.
      3. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 31 March 2020 06: 11 New
        0
        Quote: knn54
        The benefits of "drinking gold" have been known for a long time.

        For its manufacturers.
    4. den3080
      den3080 31 March 2020 00: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      Well, I've already heard about copper, but I wonder how this virus gets along with silver? Yes, the virus is still bad with aluminum.

      noticed the name of the scientist - Xi Litsin ...
      Isn’t it the grandson of military pilot Li Sicin?
      smile
  2. primaala
    primaala 30 March 2020 19: 59 New
    -2
    No doubt. Scientists of the world (all developed countries) are unraveling, another artificial virus.
    Another question - WHY THE WORLD'S SILENT ??? Knowing (at the same time) WHO is behind it all !!!
    Is there really no sane person left in Europe who could specifically point out the creators of chemical / biological weapons laboratories !?
    How much longer do you have to endure \ wait for "virus innovations" to destroy humanity !?
    Judging by the fact that basically politicians in Europe have no children and grandchildren, I think they have atrophied the gene of compassion.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 March 2020 20: 54 New
      -4
      I think they have an exclusive right vaccine. And they will impose a massive wrong vaccine on us. And without fail. Globally we are dust and rubbish for them.
      1. primaala
        primaala 30 March 2020 21: 07 New
        -4
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I think they have an exclusive right vaccine. And they will impose a massive wrong vaccine on us. And without fail. Globally we are dust and rubbish for them.

        Any chemist / biologist, when creating a virus, immediately KNOWS and creates an "ANTI" vaccine.
        The anti-vaccine automatically "looms" with the formula. Most likely .. classified. Waiting for the outcome ...
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 30 March 2020 21: 56 New
        +1
        We’ll do it. They made it from Ebola and build it from the crown.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 30 March 2020 21: 02 New
      +1
      Is there really no sane left in Europe
      Who will give them a word
      1. primaala
        primaala 30 March 2020 21: 17 New
        0
        Quote: Gardamir
        Is there really no sane left in Europe
        Who will give them a word

        And that’s true ... alas ... Europe turned into an amoeba.
    3. Vita vko
      Vita vko 30 March 2020 21: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: primaala
      Is there really no sane person left in Europe who could specifically point out the creators of chemical / biological weapons laboratories !?

      Who do you mean? China or USA. But even if there is evidence that nobody knows how and how to collect it, the blame will still fall on Russia. Otherwise, the United States and NATO will not be able to justify further militarization.
      1. primaala
        primaala 30 March 2020 21: 21 New
        -3
        Quote: Vita VKO
        Quote: primaala
        Is there really no sane person left in Europe who could specifically point out the creators of chemical / biological weapons laboratories !?

        Who do you mean? China or USA. But even if there is evidence that nobody knows how and how to collect it, the blame will still fall on Russia. Otherwise, the United States and NATO will not be able to justify further militarization.

        China has always been quietly in "alliance" with the United States. (not a secret).
        And if it touched all countries, then they should "shout". No scream is heard.
        One Russia (like that buffer) takes over everything.
        Ask me today: did the ba help others !?
        Without hesitation I will answer: YES.
        These are WE "quilted jackets". Nobody understands US.
        "gene" another walked ... At the gene level WE HELP. (even to enemies).
      2. primaala
        primaala 30 March 2020 21: 39 New
        -6
        I don't know if you will understand (what I will write about) ... Vancouver (Canada) city world map. EVERYTHING is under the "wing" of the diaspora. At the same time, the diasporas are fiercely afraid of taking a step to the right, a step to the left. There is a LAW.
        That says it all. And now about Russia (with a hint). It seems like a federation ... each nationality has a "shelter" (autonomy), and only the Russians do not. And when the amendments to the Constitution were touched, the organized crime groups and their "owners" immediately whined "how so !?" And why would !? hmm
    4. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
      Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 30 March 2020 21: 54 New
      +6
      You do not get involved in quarantine. It will be hard to get out of hard drinking.
    5. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 30 March 2020 22: 00 New
      +1
      do you need more?
  3. andranick
    andranick 30 March 2020 20: 00 New
    +4
    It is a completely scientific approach. We talked about science: out of the whole article, only 1 paragraph corresponds to the declared topic.
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 30 March 2020 20: 12 New
    +3
    In terms of unstable characteristics, a virus is similar to a computer virus: elusive, invisible and poorly predictable. And the author, comparing with Ebola, admits that the next virus will be even more "cunning".

    The virus will teach people to be hygienic. And the "Brownian movement" of globalization, the survivors will equate to fascism.
    Less need to wander around all sorts of "pfukets". stop
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 30 March 2020 20: 24 New
      13
      Those who grew up in the USSR do not need to learn how to wash their hands before eating.
      1. dauria
        dauria 30 March 2020 22: 28 New
        +3
        Those who grew up in the USSR do not need to learn how to wash their hands before eating


        Yeah. And we didn't go to Italy in droves. And the Chinese could only make a thermos, they did not even grow up to down jackets. A virus is like a virus. But the speed of mixing people has increased. And a billion Chinese were beggars at home, and here they went around the world as tourists. And not only China, Russia there too. 150 thousand !!! Russo-tourists with "image-morality" had to be gathered all over the world.
        And they simply die because of the emergency in medicine because of an unprecedented influx of patients. But there are also heart attacks, strokes, appendicitis and kidneys and childbirth complex, oncology, etc. ... Doctors now have an ass. And we with our kebabs. repeat
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 31 March 2020 04: 40 New
          -1
          Quote: dauria
          And the Chinese only knew how to make a thermos

          flashlights !!! Tokma batteries do not know how ....
  5. Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 30 March 2020 20: 18 New
    0
    The insidious virus is coronavirus.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 31 March 2020 04: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      The insidious virus is coronavirus.

      yes you sho ??? and "coronavirus has grown insidiously" ... also pulls on the "plus sign"?
  6. Pereira
    Pereira 30 March 2020 20: 23 New
    +3
    The virus dies in smoked bacon. Especially if sprinkled with pepper on top.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 March 2020 20: 57 New
      +1
      Especially if you smoke yourself, on cherry or pear branches, and even a hundred grams of your moonshine! And then in the bathhouse, not one virus will not cling, without any vitriol.
    2. astepanov
      astepanov 30 March 2020 20: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: Pereira
      The virus dies in smoked bacon. Especially if sprinkled with pepper on top.

      And another 50 grams inside - for disinfection. Join, friends, join! drinks
      1. Fikys
        Fikys 31 March 2020 04: 47 New
        0
        Who can minus this ?! Well this must not be a living person!
    3. Grandfather
      Grandfather 30 March 2020 21: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Pereira
      The virus dies in smoked bacon. Especially if sprinkled with pepper on top.

      yes ...
    4. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 30 March 2020 21: 54 New
      -1
      Smoked lard without a liquid antiseptic is ineffective.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 31 March 2020 04: 43 New
        -1
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Smoked lard without a liquid antiseptic is ineffective.

        I knew that you were here .... drinks
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  10. gridasov
    gridasov 30 March 2020 20: 47 New
    +3
    The fact that the existence of the virus on the copper surface is minimal suggests that it must be treated with ionization technology of air and the environment. And also with special water treatment.
  11. Amper
    Amper 30 March 2020 20: 48 New
    -5
    Corona virus is a pure money-laundering worldwide. I think the brothers from the east got a lot of fun on this. Ours will also be snatched away. Hang on people, summer is coming! angry good
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 March 2020 22: 02 New
      +2
      Yes, divorce for money and all 178 countries are silent - you need to see 300 million corpses to believe in the real danger of this virus.
      1. Amper
        Amper April 6 2020 20: 21 New
        0
        For you personally, sir. This flu is no worse than others. Do not believe anyone except your own analytics, if you own it. With proletarian greetings, V.I.
      2. Amper
        Amper April 6 2020 20: 35 New
        0
        You are our sick, you can name such a pandemic within the history of mankind !!!! ???? Change diapers and your own apologist, are you a husband !? Think! I assure you, an interesting lesson!
  12. Amper
    Amper 30 March 2020 20: 49 New
    -1
    Quote: Pereira
    The virus dies in smoked bacon. Especially if sprinkled with pepper on top.

    And his vodka, vodka! drinks
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    2. Amper
      Amper April 6 2020 20: 26 New
      0
      Citizens !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I assure you-vodka !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In the morning, beer and reflection, to whom is it profitable to turn the flu into a collapse of the economy ...!?
  13. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 30 March 2020 20: 50 New
    -1
    In Switzerland and West Germany, copper cookware, pots and pans ... And plumbing.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 30 March 2020 21: 53 New
      +4
      Worse than copper utensils and plumbing, only plutonium cutlery.
  14. primaala
    primaala 30 March 2020 20: 52 New
    +1
    carbonic anhydrase enzyme is a protein containing zinc and consisting of approximately 260 amino acid residues. This enzyme is found in blood red blood cells and promotes the conversion of carbon dioxide, which is formed in tissues during their life, into bicarbonate ions and carbonic acid, which is carried by the blood to the lungs, where it is removed from the body in the form of carbon dioxide.
    PS The path chemists / biologists are looking for the answer ... and it is on the surface ...
  15. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 30 March 2020 20: 53 New
    +2
    Coronavirus met the flu

    And smiling says:
    I have mastered almost the planet
    Consider a human song sung.
    I will multiply my influence,
    I’ll destroy the human race
    What the plague and AIDS failed
    SARS, cholera, swine flu.
    And the flu virus answered like this:
    I’m methyl too,
    But how many years have I beat people
    I could not achieve their deaths.
    You captured only half of Europe.
    Others hid in the trenches.
    America, take China
    Well, in Belarus you will die.
    You know how they live:
    They eat garlic and drink vodka.
    In the morning there is a smell like hell.
    You want to go, I won’t go.

    While you dissolve the virus,
    You don’t scare people
    Without masks go and the crowd,
    They still laugh at you.
    They’ve bought alcohol for the future,
    The whole household block was scored with food
    And the virus is waiting as God's gift
    Forgetting the work calendar.
    Coronavirus listened to the flu
    And I thought - God, how I got into it.
    In the eyes of his longing and sadness -
    Yes, in Belarus, I myself am afraid.
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  19. fif21
    fif21 30 March 2020 21: 01 New
    +2
    In Europe in the Middle Ages and for lesser sins they burned at the stake. wassat Maybe these virologists and their laboratories napalm pamper, and who finances them not to forget! Everyone screams a virus, a virus ... and does not allow tolerance to say that the world was attacked by biological weapons? am They needed to be burned after HIV. Money for some, funerals for others! So the economy does not lead. hi
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 March 2020 22: 06 New
      0
      This virus did not appear in the laboratory, but under the natural conditions of Chinese cuisine and human poherism for sanitation. Everything else is nonsense sucked out of the finger and drawn by the ear.
  20. NordUral
    NordUral 30 March 2020 21: 01 New
    +5
    I have an understanding that the peoples of the whole world should start the fight against the crazy Anglo-Saxons in their manic habit of subjugating the whole world to themselves, using the most terrible methods of destruction, as happened after the 2nd World War, when there was a worldwide movement in the name of Peace throughout The earth.
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2020 21: 10 New
    +3
    Quote: Tank jacket
    In Switzerland and West Germany, copper cookware, pots and pans ... And plumbing.

    All the countries that are usually called developed, their first water pipelines in the 19th century were built from lead pipes. It wasn't until the end of the 20th century that lead was banned for new construction in these countries, so there are still a lot of lead pipes in existing water pipelines in many countries. In the UK, things are no better, if not worse. Up to 40% of households are still supplied with water through lead pipes. And all buildings built before 1970, as a rule, have fragments of lead pipes in their plumbing systems. The industry also produces special lead-copper compression fittings: As you can see, a lot of different structures feed on the topic of lead pipes. Municipalities are begging for grants to replace them with copper pipes. Plumbers solder and screw one to the other. Environmentalists of all stripes monitor the degree of water pollution with lead and copper. Commercial firms protect the population from lead and copper with epoxy and PET liners ... This information seemed interesting to me, since I naively believed that lead plumbing remained in ancient Rome. There is also a widespread opinion that such a water supply system influenced the degradation of the Romans ... In Russia, I have never seen or heard anything like this. SanPiN 2.1.4.1074-01 "Drinking water. Hygienic requirements for water quality in centralized drinking water supply systems. Control quality. Hygienic requirements for ensuring the safety of hot water supply systems "(as amended on April 2, 2018) MPC 0,03mg / l if the pipes are old, they are with lead oxide, they may still be with sulfur compounds.

    http://docs.cntd.ru/document/901798042 От меди, свиньи по крайней мере - становятся кастратами. Есть способ кастрации свиней - медную пластину на дно корыта и через месяц примерно химкастрат. Управление репродуктивной способностью.

    "In chronic poisoning, copper enters the animal's body in small quantities, but for a long time and is slowly excreted from it, which is why it accumulates in some organs and tissues (cumulation). The place of the greatest accumulation of copper in animals is the liver. Until then. while the liver is able to detoxify the incoming copper, no clinical signs of poisoning are found in the animal.Disruption of the detoxifying function of the liver with prolonged intake of small doses of copper compounds can manifest itself as sudden yellowness of the visible mucous membranes and severe hemolysis.With the appearance of these symptoms, the course of the disease becomes acute and quickly ends death. "

    Source: https://vetvo.ru/otravlenie-zhivotnyx-solyami-medi.html Veterinary Service of the Vladimir Region
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2020 21: 11 New
    +3
    Relatively safe are only food-grade acid-resistant types of stainless steels, titanium, zirconium, some plastics: polypropylene, VMPE, PND, many fluoroplastics, and most ceramics. Partially PVC if quality.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 30 March 2020 22: 05 New
      -1
      Tantalum, niobium, iridium, platinum.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 March 2020 22: 09 New
      +1
      This new virus with humanity is now forever as well as the flu and other diseases.
  23. Grandfather
    Grandfather 30 March 2020 21: 45 New
    -2
    [media = "Let's talk about science": scientistshttp: // did not find out what kind of metal surfaces the coronavirus COVID-19 is "afraid of"] I was told so ... I pissed my sneakers ... no ... "YouTube is not a supporter .. .... it's here http://f1ld.2com.pw/474-mylodrama-1-2-sezon-bez-cenzury-smotret-onlayn-free.html!!! burn it all ... I don't know. everything is not clear ....))))
    1. primaala
      primaala 30 March 2020 22: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: Dead Day
      [media = "Let's talk about science": scientistshttp: // did not find out what kind of metal surfaces the coronavirus COVID-19 is "afraid of"] I was told so ... I pissed my sneakers ... no ... "YouTube is not a supporter .. .... it's here http://f1ld.2com.pw/474-mylodrama-1-2-sezon-bez-cenzury-smotret-onlayn-free.html!!! burn it all ... I don't know. everything is not clear ....))))

      Eat when you screw up the collar. GRANDFATHER.
      and re-read yourself. Otherwise, you cannot understand the text of a "thought" without a bubble.
  24. AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 30 March 2020 22: 01 New
    +1
    What metal is the coronovirus afraid of? Molten.
  25. Avior
    Avior 30 March 2020 22: 31 New
    +1
    I don’t know how true it is, but I saw somewhere information that high mortality in some countries may be associated with mandatory vaccination against tuberculosis; where it is mandatory, mortality is supposedly much lower.
    They are divided into three groups of countries: C- there is no compulsory vaccination, B- was, but canceled and A- was and there is compulsory vaccination

    compare Spain and Portugal - in Spain vaccination was canceled in 1981, in Portugal in 2017.
    Italy has long had no compulsory vaccination
    if this is true, then everyone will urgently start vaccination, I think
    1. Liam
      Liam 30 March 2020 22: 51 New
      +2
      It is a pity that this theory does not explain the huge difference in mortality between regions within the same country.
      1. Avior
        Avior 30 March 2020 23: 02 New
        +1
        there was a mention of the situation in Germany, in the former GDR, where vaccination was mandatory, and in the former Germany, where supposedly not. Vaccination supposedly reduces both morbidity and mortality and leads to an easier course of the disease.
        something like this in Germany

        in general, it’s clear that now the explanations will be different, though it's all or not, and how much will become known much later
        1. Liam
          Liam 30 March 2020 23: 12 New
          +2
          Germany is visible from all statistics, which is a unique case of mortality compared to the rest of Europe and the United States.
          You can look at other countries in the same Europe and see the same differences in mortality within the same country.
          Germany is distinguished from other countries by 2 things - the average age of the infected (in Germany 47 in Italy-65) and this is a huge difference in the chances of survival. And the second difference is that in Germany there is no pronounced focus where half the patients from the whole country are concentrated - Lombardy, Madrid , New York, etc.
          1. Avior
            Avior 30 March 2020 23: 16 New
            +1
            nevertheless east of Germany - the incidence is less
            but it will be known when the statistics are gathered after the end of the pandemic
            anyway, the incidence of a particular person is probabilistic random
            1. Liam
              Liam 30 March 2020 23: 24 New
              +1
              Holstein and Thuringia, Saar- were not in the GDR
              1. Avior
                Avior 30 March 2020 23: 49 New
                +1
                all this in any case is probabilistic in nature with the influence of various factors.
  26. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 30 March 2020 22: 56 New
    0
    Well, as I do not envy that I live in "Square", and God had mercy. but how can you live in this country.
  27. Al Asad
    Al Asad 30 March 2020 23: 39 New
    +5
    Quote: Irokez
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Copper sulfate is one of the best disinfectants.

    Yes, they have already found a cure. Ask in pharmacies until the exceptional ones bought it in bulk and announced that they had developed it.

    damn, I seriously began to read the name laughing
    1. Slavs
      Slavs 31 March 2020 00: 34 New
      +1
      The main thing in the drug is the active substance ...))
      1. Fikys
        Fikys 31 March 2020 05: 01 New
        +1
        Especially the second, the first, as the name suggests, filler ... laughing
        But the second one is a preparation of exceptional strength and effectiveness!
  28. sen
    sen 31 March 2020 05: 07 New
    +2
    A coronavirus was found on board the cruise ship and lasted 17 days.
  29. sen
    sen 31 March 2020 05: 18 New
    +1
    On March 23, the Office of the State Council of the People's Republic of China in Wuhan, Hubei Province held a press conference, during which the important role and effect of Chinese medicine medicines (Elixir Shuang Huang Lian, Ban Lan Gan Ke Lee and others) in the prevention and control of COVID-19 . A member of the Central Steering Group, Yu Yanhong, said that among the confirmed cases in China, 74 thousand 187 patients were taking Chinese medicine, in particular 61 thousand 449 patients in Hubei province used Chinese medicine. The effectiveness of Chinese medicine products exceeded 90%.
    http://russian.people.com.cn/n3/2020/0324/c31516-9671822.html
    Maybe in China because mortality is lower than in Italy?
  30. sen
    sen 31 March 2020 05: 48 New
    +1
    To whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear. Scammers from the Internet will also offer a cheap test for coronovirus and medicine. For instance.
    https://proektgn.com/preparaty-cat/koronavirus
  31. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 31 March 2020 05: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Worse than copper utensils and plumbing, only plutonium cutlery.

    Apparently the Swiss do not know about this request Oh, poor fellow ...
  32. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 31 March 2020 10: 02 New
    +5
    I heard that customs officers found 8 tons of toilet paper hidden in cocaine.