In the Kaliningrad region, the installation of "Smerch" replace MLRS "Grad"

An artillery brigade located in Kaliningrad and part of the 11th Army Corps of the Baltic Coastal Forces fleet, received the division of multiple launch rocket systems "Smerch". This new technology replaced the Grad MLRS that had previously been in service. It will significantly enhance the firepower of the brigade.

According to the newspaper "Guardian of the Baltic", now the Tornado division is participating in the camp collection of artillery of the Baltic Fleet, which takes place from late February to April. At the training ground, new MLRS will undergo training application. Unlike the Grads that were previously in service, the new systems have a significantly longer firing range and coverage area.

In addition to testing the use of new technology, gunners began preparations for the parade in honor of the 75th anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War. It is assumed that the MLRS "Smerch" on May 9 will be demonstrated for the first time to the residents of Kaliningrad, passing a solemn march through the main square of the regional center. Therefore, the fighters of the division not only hone their combat skills, but also train a coordinated passage of military equipment in front boxes.

The replacement of the Grad MLRS with the Smerch systems in the Kaliningrad Region can be called a symmetrical response to the strengthening of the NATO grouping in Poland and the Baltic states.

Comments

[Sergey39]

The length of the land border of the Kaliningrad region is 410 km. Not enough will be one division.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Sergey39

The length of the land border of the Kaliningrad region is 410 km. It will not be enough one division.

Do you think that all rearmament will stop there? What a habit for all messages about rearmament to immediately sculpt one and the same comment.

[Sergey39]

Quote: Piramidon

What a habit for all messages about rearmament to immediately sculpt one and the same comment.

Notice, I didn’t stick it.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Sergey39

Quote: Piramidon

What a habit for all messages about rearmament to immediately sculpt one and the same comment.

Notice, I didn’t stick it.

Do not pretend to be misunderstood. Do not remember what you wrote? I gave YOUR quote,

It will not be enough one division.

I highlighted YOUR words in it, and simply illustrated them. Or are these not your words?

[9PA]

There you need to build a nuclear power plant

[Ilya-spb]

There is an offer ... Pick up from Lithuania.

And the question of the legal accession of Memel (Klaipeda) to the Lithuanian SSR, the legal successor of which is Lithuania, remains open.

[bayard]

Quote: Ilya-spb

And the question of the legal accession of Memel (Klaipeda) to the Lithuanian SSR, the legal successor of which is Lithuania, remains open.

So after all, the current capital of Lithuania - Vilnius, joined Lithuania only after the last partition of Poland.
Stalin!
Damned by ALL democrats of the world.
If Stalin, in their opinion, is a criminal, then the Vilensky Territory does not belong to them by right. But since it was taken from Poland by the power of Russian (Soviet) weapons, and the Russian Federation is the successor of the USSR, then this is OUR LAND.
"Above the RUSSIAN VILLE
Over free
Native crosses rise ... "
Tyutchev, if sclerosis does not change.
And for Russia, just the land corridor to the Kaliningrad region will be legally.

[Sergey39]

So they began to build it, although the construction was frozen. "Neighbors" refused to buy electricity.

[Stalllker]

And sell electricity to Germany !!!)) write in Rosatom

[RUS96]

Quote: Sergey39

The length of the land border of the Kaliningrad region is 410 km. Not enough will be one division.

"A man who grows a beard doesn't seem to be shaved at first."

[venik]

Quote: Sergey39

The length of the land border of the Kaliningrad region is 410 km. Not enough will be one division.

========
Are you sure that this division of "Tornadoes" there (in the Kaliningrad region) is the ONLY one?

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Sergey39

The length of the land border of the Kaliningrad region is 410 km. Not enough will be one division.

The long journey begins with the first step.
You need to have artillery of different caliber to perform different tasks.

[Grits]

Quote: Victor March 47

You need to have artillery of different caliber to perform different tasks

Exactly. I don't understand why, "instead of Grads", and not "in addition to Grads"?

[nikon7717]

They didn’t say here that Grads would be sent to the scrap right away.
Probably the conservation warehouses will be updated. part kit is new. Some Grad divisions and some Tornadoes following rearmament. And that’s all.

[A. Privalov]

Not today or tomorrow, Germany is about to return Koenigsberg, and that’s useful.

[Sky strike fighter]

German army able to return Kaliningrad? Ridiculous. For this, Germany must first build a combat-ready army, seize Poland from Silesia and other lands that passed to Poland after World War II to go to Kaliningrad (which no one will allow her to do), and then start a nuclear war with Russia for Kaliningrad. then business.

[gurzuf]

The Germans will begin to return their territories from the Poles. As was with us, they remembered.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: gurzuf

The Germans will begin to return their territories from the Poles. As was with us, they remembered.

If anything, the Poles will not be asked, and there will be no database, they will just come and stay under the guise of a "car depot".

[Sergej1972]

The Polish army is more powerful than the Bundeswehr at the moment.

[Ros 56]

They were 45 years old enough for the eyes.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Ros 56

They were 45 years old enough for the eyes.

not enough horseradish.

[Ros 56]

Well, let the application be executed with the signature of Merkel, we will send them Sarmat or Poplar on our own.

[Piramidon]

Quote: A. Privalov

Not today, tomorrow Germany will gather Koenigsberg to return

Do you correspond with Merkel?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: A. Privalov

Not today or tomorrow, Germany is about to return Koenigsberg, and that’s useful.

The Germans do not appear, the Germans, first of all, will look at the land that Stalin cut off from Germany and presented to the Poles. But the Poles, with some kind of fright, began to whine "Koenigsbergnash!" What are they doing there?

I do not really like poetry, but I love Mayakovsky. And then they pour themselves

In Polish -
look,
as in a goat's poster.
In Polish -
they put out their eyes
in a tight
police elephant -
from where, they say,
and what is this
geographic news?

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Zoldat_A

but the Poles, with a kind of fright, began to say "Koenigsbergnash!"

maybe out of fright ... the Polish markets are in "narayon" ... maybe beguiled, trade in clothes with (annexation (occupation).

[16329]

It’s easier for them to start with Alsace and Lorraine, where kindred Turks and Arabs live there

[Lara Croft]

Quote: A. Privalov

Not today or tomorrow, Germany is about to return Koenigsberg, and that’s useful.

How would you not breathe in radioactive dust because of not returning the Golan to the working people of the ATS ...
To fight the Israeli military going with the United States in a single channel of military preparations in the BV, all means are good, including and nuclear mines ...

[Mytholog]

The case when it would be worth supplementing with "Tornadoes", and not replacing.
"Grads" - there are also not superfluous.

[kjhg]

I thought about that too. It is strange why the Tornadoes have not yet been there. A tornado cannot replace Grad. They have different tasks.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: kjhg

It is strange why the Tornadoes have not yet been there.

Apparently they were all the same, but under the USSR, when there was the 11th OA as part of the Baltic Military District of the USSR ...
The MLRS data are most likely an army / corps kit, and the 11th AK as part of the RF CBF appeared relatively recently, so corps subordination units began to appear there ...

A tornado cannot replace Grad. They have different tasks.

Definitely. BM-21 are also in service in the 79th Guards. SMBr. (the remnants of the former 18th guards. MSD of the USSR Armed Forces of the aforementioned 11th OA of App. VO) ...
Derived from ABR. BM-21 is likely to go into service with the 7th Guards. SME (which begs to become a brigade, as relatively recently formed near Gusev - 11th TP) ...
All the trash that was in the KOB district, most likely, has long been taken to the "Big Land" ...
Turning ABR. essentially in the RABR. The General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is likely to form an ABR., Because, as the tasks of rocket and barrel artillery are different ...

[smile]

Lara Croft
A small addition - all of our rubbish (in the Kaliningrad region) - is not taken to the mainland - Lithuania cuts railway transportation, and expensive by sea, especially aviation.
Therefore, in our region there remain about seven hundred tanks withdrawn from service, and a cloud of everything else, up to stockpiles of mine-torpedo weapons. in which ammunition is stored about a hundred years ago ... like in St. Petersburg, in which sea mines of the 1915 model have not yet been disposed of.
Almost nothing of the weapons and military equipment being withdrawn from service is being disposed of — there is nowhere, it is not exported — it does not work, everything is stored. In what conditions is stored - I do not know, but if I knew - I would not say. :)))
So it goes. I hope that during the threatened period this can be put into operation, at least partially. :)))

[bukhach]

I apologize, but why is the sea expensive? The distance is short, it would seem that it is easier. From Kamchatka, tanks were transported to Primorye by steamers - and nothing, money was found. Perhaps, they purposefully leave it, as you say, for a "threatened period."

[Lara Croft]

Quote: smile

and by sea, especially aviation - expensive.

After pipeline transport, marine is the cheapest, however ...

A small addition - all our (in the Kaliningrad region) trash - do not take out to the mainland

By no means.
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/50725
https://ru.delfi.lt/news/politics/rf-vyvodit-iz-kaliningradskoj-oblasti-tanki.d?id=19603985
https://regnum.ru/news/polit/1096972.html

Therefore, in our region there remain about seven hundred tanks

According to WIKI as a part of App. In all it was

620 tanks, 753 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 239 guns, mortars and MLRS, 71 combat and 38 military transport helicopters

Which, however, contradicts my own links above, which indicates the number 880 by the tank (how many of them are MBT?) ...
Most likely they managed to take out 1,5 hundred ....
All that was in service Arr. IN, by definition, can only be trash ...
I understand that the strength of Prib. VO had to strengthen the State War in Poland, and that the State War in the GDR ...

In what conditions is stored - I don’t know, but I would know - I would not say. :)))

You can probably be told about this in the military unit of the RF Armed Forces, which brought the Russian B and VT with the VB of the RF Armed Forces from Georgia, and the same quality of the V and VT Armed Forces from the Crimea ... the quality is apparently the same ... as in BOB. no ...

I hope that during the threatened period this can be put into operation, at least partially. :)))

In vain do you hope ... Ask for APU about deceived hopes ... God forbid that I be wrong ...
Any BCBT in the Kaliningrad region is a target for empirialists, the Commander of the KBF Navy of the Russian Federation and the 11th AK, must have deployed MSBr. / Tbr. permanent staff in peacetime, as no plans even for partial mobilization will be given to them ...
"And they also say, about some Suwalkovsky corridor, stupid people, by what forces?" ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mytholog

The case when it would be worth supplementing with "Tornadoes", and not replacing.
"Grads" - there are also not superfluous.

Well, most likely it is. Just probably replaced in some areas

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Lipchanin

Well, most likely it is. Just probably replaced in some areas

All sites are like that. Holding multiple launch rocket systems, or deploying them for use, no further than 40 km from the confrontation line, is an impermissible temporary and tactical gift for "partners".

[Lopatov]

Quote: Vladimir61

Holding multiple launch rocket systems, or deploying them for use, no further than 40 km from the confrontation line, is an impermissible temporary and tactical gift for "partners".

Well yes, 40 km is too far away ...

[Lipchanin]

Well I do not know. The General Staff from the mountain knows better

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Mytholog

"Grads" - there are also not superfluous.

two regions where exactly nothing is superfluous - Crimea and Kaliningrad. (Baltiysk)

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Aerodrome

Quote: Mytholog

"Grads" - there are also not superfluous.

two regions where exactly nothing is superfluous - Crimea and Kaliningrad. (Baltiysk)

Definitely ... if it's just not military trash passing through documents and reports, like a combat unit ...

[Dzafdet]

On the other hand, they are preparing for war, ours are also not sleeping ...

[Lipchanin]

Unlike the Grads that were previously in service, the new systems have a significantly longer firing range and coverage area.

Video for some reason without sound

[knn54]

Why not Tornado-G?

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: knn54

Why not "Tornado-G"

"Change awl for soap"? Both here and there, the caliber is 122 mm ... But the "multi-caliber" system of the "Uragan-1M" type would be much more expedient ... all the more so if "packages" with 122 mm guides were developed ...

[Black sniper]

But doesn’t the modernization of the trades and tornadoes go to the tornadoes G and C?

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Black Sniper

Doesn’t the modernization of the trades and tornadoes go to the tornadoes G and C?

It goes ... only, in my opinion, these "tornadas" are just right to call them: "Grad-M" ... "Smerch-M" ... That is, "Tornado-G / S" are modernized "grads" and "whirlwinds" ... "Special innovation" - nem! Only Uragan-1M is really a new system!

[Hermit21]

In fact, "Tornado-G" is much more effective than "Grad" due to the installation of ASUNO, navigation equipment, the introduction of new shells with a range of up to 100 kilometers

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Hermit21

In fact, "Tornado-G" is much more effective than "Grad" due to the installation of ASUNO, navigation equipment, the introduction of new shells with a range of up to 100 kilometers

Well, first, it should be noted that the range of the new "Gradov" shells will be less than 100 km! Let's just say, at least 40 km ... (depending on whose development ... maybe a little over 40 km, but less than 50 km ...). And also ... for this purpose, the "old" systems are being modernized, so that the modernized ones are superior to the non-modernized ones! So far, modernization is being carried out to the extent that it is quite possible to call "Tornado-G" "Grad-M (" Grad-M1 / M2 ...) or "Tornado-S" "Smerch-M" ("Smerch-M1 / M2 ...)

[cniza]

The replacement of the Grad MLRS with the Smerch systems in the Kaliningrad Region can be called a symmetrical response to the strengthening of the NATO grouping in Poland and the Baltic states.

And this is just what we were told ...

[Mountain shooter]

"Tornado" is more convincing than "Grad" ... A very weighty argument against "bad" thoughts ... any "achressors" ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

"Tornado" is more convincing than "Grad" ... A very weighty argument against "bad" thoughts ... any "achressors" ...

The problem is that the gunners are not prepared to work with the Grad. Since the times of the USSR, Hurricanes were the limit for artillery schools, and specialists for Smerchi were trained in rocketry.

[Vladimir61]

Well done! For our inveterate "partners", nothing is a pity!

[garri-lin]

Strange decision. Especially on ammunition is unclear. I hope the hail will simply be withdrawn to the reserve.

[Black sniper]

Here it is necessary to notice that the volley at the city of 40 shots, and at the tornado 14 !!! But the tornado / T-C is an order of magnitude longer-range and killer than the hail / tornado-G.

[garri-lin]

These are cars of different classes. And it's not even about the number of missiles and not about "lethality". In the context of Kaliningrad, the most important parameter is the availability of ammunition. On good, for each barrel you need to have so much ammunition so that "the barrel is enough to shoot." This is in case of a big war. Neighbors near Kaliningrad are NATo. And only a big war with NATO. Here are the installations. We retrained the crews to the proper level of equipment proficiency. Have you also formed stocks in warehouses? Sufficient for a long war.

[Grits]

Quote: Black Sniper

Here it is necessary to notice that the volley at the city of 40 shots, and at the tornado 14 !!! But the tornado / T-C is an order of magnitude longer-range and killer than the hail / tornado-G.

Sometimes you don’t need a sledgehammer, just a hammer. And sometimes a hammer is even more convenient. Therefore, in the SA and divided the MLRS into three calibers.
Just now, something is not expected to replace the middle hammer - Hurricane

[Lopatov]

It's some kind of mistake.
It's like "In the N tank regiment, T-72 tanks were replaced with a 203-mm Malka self-propelled gun."
If this is not a mistake. I don’t even know. what to think about it ...

Earlier, there were messages about the replacement of "Grad" with "Hurricanes", and then, in the future, with "Uragan-1M"

[chenia]

Quote: Spade

It's some kind of mistake.

Shovels are more attentive. This is an art brigade of corps submission, so everything is true. This is not an MSD (TD) artillery regiment. Although it is already necessary to use the MSD instead of the missile battalion, a jet with 1-2 battalions. Hurricane and batr. Tornado.

[Lopatov]

Quote: chenia

Shovels are more attentive. This is an art brigade of corps submission, so everything is true.

Nothing is true.
They were armed with Grads, which in 2018 were going to be changed to Hurricanes

[chenia]

Quote: Spade

which in 2018 were going to change to "Hurricanes"

The AD regiment in my time (until the 90s) was exchanged for Hurricane, and in the future the Smerch division was supposed to be. The city was planned no higher than the division link. Grad-1 was generally a battery in some SMEs.

[Lopatov]

Quote: chenia

The AD regiment in my time (until the 90s) was exchanged for Hurricane

https://iz.ru/791446/aleksei-kozachenko-aleksei-ramm/morskoi-uragan-ognevaia-moshch-artilleriiskikh-chastei-vmf-budet-usilena

[chenia]

Heh! Here, after all, maybe such an option, taking into account some correspondence imagination. . ABR in the composition of 3-4 ADN stem and had 2 reADN Grad. The first division previously (by reference) was changed to Hurricane, the second (directly) to Smerch. But cho .rang formation allows.
So people got mixed up. horses.

[askort154]

According to the Baltic Guard, .....Replacement of the MLRS Grad with the Smerch system in the Kaliningrad region can be called a symmetrical response to the strengthening of the NATO grouping in Poland and the Baltic states.

Apparently, the editorial board of the newspaper decided so. But in reality, the Kaliningrad region is in "all-round defense", so this is not a region in which something needs to be "replaced".
There you only need to supplement.

[Finches]

Now the Poles and the Balts are waking up from the pandemic and screaming about "Russian" aggression and about "barbarians" from the East who want to enslave them in order to bring everyone, from the very old to babies, in cattle cars to Siberia and make them clear the snow ... Immediately, a lanky Rasmussen with an eternally anxious [drinking] face will appear and cackle that NATO is alarmed ... After that, our younger brothers will join the chorus of bunny boys and whimper about Crimea and Donbass ... In short, it is necessary to continue in the same spirit - when I hear their moans, my mood rises exponentially!

[My_log_in]

Quote: 9PA

There you need to build a nuclear power plant

unfortunately, the project has been "mothballed". Everything that can be used has been sent to Belarus.

[Yaro Polk]

SMERCH is a force, a CIT compared to him, like a passenger car versus a truck?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Yaro Polk

SMERCH is a force, a CIT compared to him, like a passenger car versus a truck?

In fact, the difference is not very large Only 4.5 times.

Divisional salvo "Gradov" 6x3x40 = 240. 240x6.4kg = 1536 kg
Divisional salvo of "Tornadoes" 2x3x12 = 72 72x95kg = 6840 kg

[Victor March 47]

Quote: A. Privalov

Not today or tomorrow, Germany is about to return Koenigsberg, and that’s useful.

What are you talking about, bruised?

[Luty]

The tornado in Kaliningrad is almost OTR in what sense. (Of course for the neighbors). A wise decision.

[Lord of the Sith]

A tornado is good when it works, opponents are sad))

[Lara Croft]

This new equipment replaced the Grad MLRS that had previously been in service. It will significantly enhance the firepower of the brigade.

This is already obtained not by artillery, but by a reactive artillery brigade .... there are similar ones in ZVO ...
The Kaliningrad special defensive area of ​​the PTS would be saturated, but not at the expense of MT-12, but with self-propelled ATGMs on a wheeled and tracked base .... Almost two full-blooded MD units of the United States and Poland stand at the border ...

[Old26]

Quote: Spade

Quote: chenia

Shovels are more attentive. This is an art brigade of corps submission, so everything is true.

Nothing is true.
They were armed with Grads, which in 2018 were going to be changed to Hurricanes

As of 2019, according to open data, the 244th brigade had divisions Msta-S, Hyacinth-B, Tornado and Chrysanthemum

[Lopatov]

Quote: Old26

Tornado

There was no "Tornado"

[Karaul73]

Quote: gurzuf

The Germans will begin to return their territories from the Poles. As was with us, they remembered.

Sorry, but what is it for them? They are doing well. Crazy budget surplus and other goodies. Do not scare yourself. And you will not be scared.

[maykl8]

The artillery brigade, located in Kaliningrad and part of the 11th Army Corps of the Baltic Fleet Coastal Forces, received the Smerch multiple launch rocket systems division.

It's strange. "Smerch" rocket armament. The officers are rocket men. What should they do in an artillery brigade? Most likely, the brigade was given the "Smerch" division with the deployment of personnel and equipment, and this division is subordinate to its superior chief.

[maykl8]

Quote: Lara Croft

This new equipment replaced the Grad MLRS that had previously been in service. It will significantly enhance the firepower of the brigade.

This is already obtained not by artillery, but by a reactive artillery brigade .... there are similar ones in ZVO ...
The Kaliningrad special defensive area of ​​the PTS would be saturated, but not at the expense of MT-12, but with self-propelled ATGMs on a wheeled and tracked base .... Almost two full-blooded MD units of the United States and Poland stand at the border ...

So already. One installation "Smerch" in one salvo destroys one tank company (well, or other armored objects) in the concentration area, on the march or at the turn of deployment into platoon columns.

[Imperial Technocrat]

Good thing, although Iskander as a fighter of wheat will be even cooler

[zulusuluz]

And the name sounds ambiguous! This is so that the enemies do not guess?

[Allexx11]

The people ask everything:
- Where are the ventilators, where are the masks, where are the drugs?
So they flew, in one gulp, isn't it visible ?!

[bukhach]

In other countries, he doesn’t ask, there are just quite a few aircraft flying around with humanitarian aid. Just to fart.

[Old26]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Old26

Tornado

There was no "Tornado"

Maybe. I wrote on open data, but they are not always accurate.