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In LDNR authorities doomed teachers to mass infection

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Quarantine is not for everyone



In LDNR, school holidays, which lasted from March 23 to 30, were extended for another fourteen days. The Ministry of Education sent circulars to cities and towns requiring all workers in the field to urgently prepare for distance education of their pupils and submit calendar plans on March 30. At the same time, senior officials of the Ministry of Education forgot about an equally important thing - to send the teachers themselves to work from home, which would be more than logical.

For some reason, it was decided in the ministerial offices that dozens of teachers gathered daily in the same room, including many elderly people who are especially vulnerable to imported infection, are a very good and healthy phenomenon that fully fits into the logic of combating a pandemic. In principle, the reason for this behavior of local officials is clear. Since teachers are paid in full, they must be in the workplace! As for the pandemic and work from home, the week of paid days off in Russia, etc., this, apparently, does not apply to the republics.

Friendly fire


What is the most offensive, if among the teachers of LDNR there are massive cases of infection with coronavirus (or any other ailment), their victim will be absolutely in vain. Given the current equipment of republican schools with office equipment and the speed of Internet traffic, teachers simply cannot technically carry out distance learning from workplaces. As a rule, we are talking about 3-4 computers in the teacher's room and 10-20 in the computer class, while the number of teachers in the average school reaches 40-50 people. Even if they tried to somehow alternate and share machine time, full-fledged work would still not work: an attempt to organize several parallel Skype conferences will end up with the system freezing.

That is, ministerial comrades with their “ingenious” decision not only create a dangerous epidemiological situation, which in theory can easily squander the local teaching staff and members of their families, but actually paralyze the work of the educational sphere, since it is simply impossible to organize distance learning from schools. And in the end they will ask, of course, from the teachers themselves.

We play pens


It seems that the local authorities, having started well, then decided not to bother with thought and planning, preparing for the potential arrival of a “fashionable” infection. The issue of rational distribution of medical masks and disinfectants has been snapped up: pharmacies are either empty or scared by price tags. They didn’t think of supporting the business: today in the LNR, public catering was quarantined, but no benefits or tax breaks were provided for them. Most likely, if all trade and services are quarantined tomorrow, they will have to get help out by organizing rallies and jihad on social networks.

The Ministry of Internal Affairs suddenly “remembered” those who illegally cross the border. As a result, a raid or pogrom was organized in Gorlovka, and in the LPR, law enforcement officers detained as many as 50 “illegal immigrants” at one stroke. Previously, of course, no one knew that there were loopholes on the demarcation line and on the border with the Russian Federation ... Ukrainian goods are still in stores. Where are the guarantees that there are only products brought in before the border was closed?

It is hoped that, despite all this sloppiness, the trouble this time will bypass Lugansk and Donetsk. Because otherwise, local officials will have to learn to match their positions in an emergency mode, which is called, on the go, and at the cost of significant losses among the population.
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  1. Lexan
    Lexan 31 March 2020 15: 14 New
    +9
    Author! Judging by your articles, you have nothing to do with the LPR and the DPR, and feed on the news from Ukraine.
    1. 113262a
      113262a 31 March 2020 15: 30 New
      +7
      The daughter in LGAKI still goes to classes. Teachers too. The process is underway. In the universities of Lugansk, similarly.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 31 March 2020 16: 28 New
        -9
        In LDNR authorities doomed teachers to mass infection
        Putin knew, so he didn't "add" ... lol
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 31 March 2020 19: 24 New
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          Quote: Dead Day
          In LDNR authorities doomed teachers to mass infection
          Putin knew, so he didn't "add" ... lol

          rednecks. people feel sorry.
    2. German Titov
      German Titov 31 March 2020 20: 51 New
      +1
      Honestly, where is Egor "Podmakhov", where is the LDNR. In Donetsk, there has never been any panic.
    3. Yegor Makhov
      April 1 2020 08: 29 New
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      Lexan, take the trouble to explain what prompted you to such a thought. What am I wrong about? Or children were not sent to distance learning before April 12? Or teachers until 14-15 do not sit at work daily? Specify Claims
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  3. Mytholog
    Mytholog 31 March 2020 15: 17 New
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    Both the Russian Federation and the remains of Ukraine introduced a regime of self-isolation. Why didn’t the republics announce restrictions on movement?
  4. Svarog
    Svarog 31 March 2020 15: 17 New
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    It is hoped that, despite all this sloppiness, the trouble this time will bypass Lugansk and Donetsk. Because otherwise, local officials will have to learn to match their positions in an emergency mode, which is called, on the go, and at the cost of significant losses among the population.

    Unfortunately, it will not work around .. Natsik will probably take advantage of this situation and send an infected saboteur .. or maybe not one .. The situation with the masks is the same .. yes, in fact, we are no different from LDN .. quarantine must be introduced. This is the most effective way in such a situation ..
  5. Prisoner
    Prisoner 31 March 2020 15: 17 New
    -1
    Svidomitnews in touch. angry
  6. Amateur
    Amateur 31 March 2020 15: 25 New
    +3
    Any VO participant can be banned by the administration with the argument "flood" or trolling (provocation). Why can't we, the participants, ban such an author? Previously, at least there were minuses.
    1. 113262a
      113262a 31 March 2020 15: 35 New
      +4
      No, well, in the ban, so in the ban, BUT! How is it in the movie-OTRRRRRitsaesh-Arrrrgumentiruyte! What do students still study? So study!
      1. Amateur
        Amateur 31 March 2020 15: 47 New
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        OTRRRR You face-Arrrrgumentiruyte!

        The author of the article should argue. And so the feeling: "Where did the firewood come from? From the forest, of course ..."
      2. Lexan
        Lexan 31 March 2020 15: 51 New
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        Dear 113262a (Vladimir)! The republics of the LPR and the DPR are isolated from the Ukrainian territories, having only crossing points! You assume that all people on Earth will not get the corona virus and isolation will save everyone from the epidemic. I’ll answer - it won’t save, since the virus according to recent studies is quite resistant to natural factors and dies at a minimum, only after 3-4 hours. The only thing is that isolation will stretch the epidemic in time (that is, reduce the number of victims over time), and will provide an opportunity to provide assistance to many victims, as well as the opportunity to develop vaccines and drugs against this infection!
        1. 113262a
          113262a 31 March 2020 15: 57 New
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          Just yesterday, there was a publication right there about a breakthrough from Ukraine on boats. Although, it has been a long time. And about the infected from there, in the hospital which. Yes, Slavyanoserbsky district, yes, from Sutogan .. And it wasn’t self-insulated, a bad person!))
    2. Prisoner
      Prisoner 31 March 2020 16: 14 New
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      Schaub Svidomitov not offend. They are EPRST, sort of like "brothers", ulcerate them in the liver along with their Bandera.
  7. 113262a
    113262a 31 March 2020 16: 13 New
    +2
    Yes, take care of your homes! I think that now we will mature. Everything is seriously and intelligibly explained. The newly-Chief Doctor of the medical center in Kommunarka (New Moscow) Denis Protsenko became infected with the coronavirus.

    This was reported by the television channel "Russia 24". The medical center in Kommunarka is one of the main "coronavirus" hospitals in Russia today.
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  9. Egor-dis
    Egor-dis 31 March 2020 16: 25 New
    +6
    I'm sorry for the teachers. BUT, these are flowers. And on the "military" side, in the prevention of coronavirus infection, in this fabulous LPR, such berries! Preparation for the parade - a dozen boxes of 40-50 people in one place. Quarantine, self-isolation? Have not heard. It is forbidden to gather in the city for 50 people (Pasechnik's order), but in the soldiers' canteen, 200 people - yes, please. And building up for evening verification by battalions is the norm. The charter does not provide for any cornoviruses. Oh no! I completely forgot! So the fight goes on! The brigade commander yesterday ordered to give birth to masks and rubber gloves to all soldiers overnight. Fine. Order in the motor-building troops.
    1. Amateur
      Amateur 31 March 2020 17: 02 New
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      Preparation for the parade - with a dozen boxes of 40-50 people in one place. Quarantine, self-isolation? They didn’t hear. In the city of 50 people can’t gather (Pasechnik’s order) and in the soldiers’ canteen for 200 people - yes, please.

      Just like N.V. Gogol's: "I see u.y.u." Real lacy panties and a pan on the head e.u. "
      1. Egor-dis
        Egor-dis 31 March 2020 17: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: Amateur
        "I see yyyu." Real lacy panties and a pan on the head e.u. "

        Who is what, and what about the lace panties and pots. With Maidan horses, twin brothers.
    2. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 31 March 2020 20: 26 New
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      Closed eateries and more crowded "public catering". I won't tell you about the military.
  10. Den717
    Den717 31 March 2020 17: 31 New
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    For some reason, it was decided in the ministerial offices that dozens of teachers gathered daily in the same room, among whom there are many elderly people who are especially vulnerable to imported infection, are a very good and healthy phenomenon

    I didn’t understand something. Schoolchildren on vacation, and then on the distance, then the classes are empty. Why do we need to collect teachers in exactly the same room, if the school, by definition, has a lot of classes. If there is the possibility of an online conference, then I do not see a problem with sanitation. In an empty classroom, there’s nowhere to catch an infection. But there is a board, visual aids, you can explain the topic almost as if with a live presence. My daughter last year in this way attended extra classes with teaching from a different time zone. Quite successful. At the same time, a large number of listeners took part. The author, apparently, is rather weak in the subject ... He drives an empty man out of incomprehensible considerations.
    1. Egor-dis
      Egor-dis 31 March 2020 17: 56 New
      +4
      Quote: Den717
      Why do we need to collect teachers in exactly the same room, if the school has, by definition, a lot of classes ..... In an empty classroom, there is no place to pick up the infection. But there is a board, visual aids, you can explain the topic ...
      And the sense of teachers in different classes to breed if these classes are not equipped for distance learning? There are no computers at all, the Internet is not failed. How will they explain the topic? In the Morse code rail, or a flag semaphore?
      1. Den717
        Den717 31 March 2020 23: 53 New
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        Quote: Egor-dis
        And the sense of teachers in different classes to breed if these classes are not equipped for distance learning?

        You obviously know the state of the classrooms better than the DPR clerks, and the journalists there too. What is telecom class equipment? With a normal cellular signal level, you can organize a perfectly acceptable broadcast via a smartphone. Today, there are Internet providers in Donetsk, schools have been connecting to broadband Internet under a special program since at least 2017. So there is no "stone age". In the LDNR, the practice of distance learning in other areas was widespread even before that. Today we decided to include the secondary school.
        There are no computers at all, the Internet is not failed.

        Of course, there may be some, especially in the areas of shelling, but there are also equipped ones, which means that those who can be transferred can be transferred. It is not necessary to absolutize individual phenomena.
        1. Egor-dis
          Egor-dis April 2 2020 19: 09 New
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          Quote: Den717
          With a normal cellular signal level, you can organize a perfectly acceptable broadcast via a smartphone. Today, there are Internet providers in Donetsk, schools have been connecting to broadband Internet under a special program since at least 2017. So there is no "stone age". In the LDNR, the practice of distance learning in other areas was widespread even before that. Today we decided to include the secondary school.
          Judging by your comment, you, in principle, have a poor idea of ​​what distance learning is, how it is done and why it still has not become widespread even with high-quality Internet.
          So, purely for reference, "online broadcasting" is never equal to "distance learning".
          1. Den717
            Den717 April 2 2020 19: 27 New
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            Quote: Egor-dis
            So, purely for reference, "online broadcasting" is never equal to "distance learning".

            Any new business begins with something not quite full-fledged, then it expands, is developed and improved. But you didn’t initially talk about the technique, but about the lack of equipment. I answered this to you.
            Quote: Egor-dis
            in principle, you have a poor idea of ​​what distance learning is, how it is done, and why it has not yet become widespread even with high-quality Internet.

            I don’t want to imagine. With my assistance, my daughter successfully studied for a year on Internet courses and passed the exam in 98 points in these subjects. With this, my knowledge in the remote form of delivering useful information ends. Maybe you, of course, are an academician of pedagogical sciences and know the deep differences in the methods of full-time and distance education, I’m not going to argue about the terms with you. I know one thing - those who want to do will find a way and opportunity, even if not perfect, who do not want to look for the reason, complexity and justification for inaction. In the current situation, the former is preferable.
            1. Egor-dis
              Egor-dis April 3 2020 16: 38 New
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              Quote: Den717
              But you didn’t initially talk about the technique, but about the lack of equipment. I answered this to you.
              With the same success, you could argue that the Lada will win Formula 1 based on the fact that the Lada, as well as the cars, have 4 wheels. And that, "there is enough equipment", even there is an engine, steering wheel and seat. wink
              Quote: Den717
              I don’t want to imagine.
              Do not want to represent, but nevertheless, express your "authoritative" opinion and even defend it. I am happy for your daughter and her success in the exam, and now answer the question why the teacher studied only with her, and not simultaneously with 30 other students? Well that's 30 times more money. What is the problem if, according to your words, one smartphone and broadband internet is enough for remote control?
              1. Den717
                Den717 April 3 2020 18: 29 New
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                Quote: Egor-dis
                the teacher was engaged only with her, and not simultaneously with another 30 students?

                Classes were group ... And today, even Skype can be configured for a group conference. It was around 2010 that dial-in conferencing access points were rare. Today, a simple home kit 3-5 years ago is enough for this purchase. Various advanced training courses, retraining, second higher education are offered in junk advertising. Connect as many as you like. And rarely where - individually, mostly - a group. No need to complicate simplicity.
                1. Egor-dis
                  Egor-dis April 4 2020 10: 46 New
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                  Quote: Den717
                  And today, even Skype can be configured for a group conference. It was around 2010 that dial-in conferencing access points were rare. Today, a simple home kit 3-5 years ago is enough for this purchase .... No need to complicate the simplicity
                  I will try again. On simple examples.
                  1. Do you have a mobile phone? Most likely there is. Do you know how to use it? most likely yes (and even a mobile phone "3-5 years ago" will be enough for you). But does this mean that you can deploy a mobile network of thousands of 30 subscribers? Okay, maybe 3000 or at least a hundred? Definitely not. Because the piece of iron will need much more than 1 mobile phone (even the most modern one).
                  2. Do you have a router at home? If you have more than one computer - I suspect that there is. Movies / videos on YouTube, streams / lectures see? Now try to throw the maximum allowable number of computers (usually from 4 to 8) on your router and simultaneously start a movie on the Internet from them. In the best case, all 4-8 computers will sag. In the worst case, the router bums. Because such systems do not scale well.

                  Perhaps the schools of Donetsk are so rich that they can afford to have a terrabit channel and put it on their own server, put on a system administrator’s rate, which will list channels and loads for 20-30 streams at the same time plus any little things (for example, it will provide technical support for the school’s website with electronic diaries and separate accounts). But I strongly doubt it.
                  1. Den717
                    Den717 April 4 2020 11: 13 New
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                    Quote: Egor-dis
                    I will try again. On simple examples.

                    Similar to:
                    For a long time, schools have had electronic journals and diaries. Using these tools, you can distribute tasks and receive e-mail reports on the progress of these tasks. You can organize the distribution of tasks through "groups" in various messengers.
                    ".... Sometimes the teacher organizes a video lesson. In this case, he warns all students in advance through Google Hangouts Meet. To do this, each student must register, go through the general school mail and enter their last name and initials in their account. Important point: the lesson via video communication. according to the rules, it can start no earlier than 10.35 in the morning (that is, from the third lesson). Do not be clever with terrabit lines by system administrators .... "Perhaps these methods will not 100% replace a full-time school, but they will still allow teachers to communicate with students and somehow load them. We must try to use what we have. In addition, there were firms in Donetsk that provided training services in a distance form in a group format. I see no difficulty in attracting their capacities in a mobilization order.
                    1. Egor-dis
                      Egor-dis April 4 2020 14: 29 New
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                      Quote: Den717
                      For a long time in schools there are electronic journals and diaries.
                      This means that teachers can take off assignments via the web interface without leaving home.
                      Quote: Den717
                      Sometimes the teacher organizes a video lesson.
                      What prevents him from doing this without leaving home?
                      Quote: Den717
                      No need to be clever with terrabit lines
                      Well, yes, if the problem has no solution, let's pretend that it does not exist.
                      Quote: Den717
                      in Donetsk there were firms that provided distance learning services in a group format. I do not see the difficulty of attracting their power in mobilization order.
                      patstalom. And at the same time, we will organize a 100% conscription for military service, arrange an additional reconnaissance and generally exporter exporters.
                      1. Den717
                        Den717 April 4 2020 20: 22 New
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                        Quote: Egor-dis
                        This means that teachers can take off assignments via the web interface without leaving home.

                        Let them not go out. If they do not need any material for clarity. Everything goes to this. What do you dislike here?
                        Quote: Egor-dis
                        Well yes, if the problem has no solution

                        What do you suggest? To give up, to state that somewhere campusers aren’t enough, the network is in a corner and cry bitterly?
                        Quote: Egor-dis
                        And at the same time we will organize a 100% call

                        It is possible to make a commercial offer, which is not abandoned. Also an option. In the end, in the US Army, elements of combat training are outsourced. Here, too, you can invent a lot of solutions. Yes, at least lay out lecture material on YouTube, why not? We need to fantasize, try ... So get out from under the table and offer something that can be solved by the available opportunities. I am sure that the Donetsk team will decide, but alas, without you.
                      2. Egor-dis
                        Egor-dis April 5 2020 11: 27 New
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                        Quote: Den717
                        Let them not go out. If they do not need any material for clarity. Everything goes to this. What do you dislike here?

                        This is not like those who kick them out to work. Read the source code before arguing. Or do you argue purely for the sake of argument?
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                        Quote: Den717
                        What do you suggest? To give up, to state that somewhere campusers aren’t enough, the network is in a corner and cry bitterly?
                        Do you have amnesia, or did another operator accept the shift behind the keyboard? There was one suggestion, including voiced by you - to conduct distance learning from home. The problem of quarantine and load on the Internet channel is being solved. But just this decision is not allowed to them.
                        Quote: Den717
                        So get out from under the table and suggest what you can solve with the available opportunities.
                        Judging by the fact that you are smoothly slipping into rudeness, your arguments are over.
                      3. Den717
                        Den717 April 5 2020 12: 15 New
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                        Quote: Egor-dis
                        This is not like those who kick them out to work. Read the source text before arguing

                        In addition to the original text written in the style of unfounded statements of certain events without "texture", it is useful to look at the text of the document or at least at an additional source on the topic. There are no instructions for school administrators to pack all teachers into one office and broadcast only from there. But organizational activities begin with planning and communicating tasks, while in the usual order, performers are gathered for meetings. I don’t see any malicious forgetfulness in this. The Ministry of Education and Science will first of all issue a document on organizing the main process with trainees, and then orders will be issued on the forms and methods of work of the institutions themselves. It has always been that way, and for almost everyone. The government and the headquarters for the "virus" also gather for "personal" meetings on a daily basis. Each member of the working group, whatever it may be, at the entrance to the workplace undergoes thermometry (in any case, an indication of this has been given, and we, for example, are strictly observed)
                        Quote: Egor-dis
                        There was one suggestion, including voiced by you - to conduct distance learning from home. The problem of quarantine and load on the Internet channel is being solved. But just this decision is not allowed to them.

                        What order, or clause, prohibits doing so, as you propose? Phrase
                        At the same time, senior officials of the Ministry of Education forgot about an equally important matter - to send the teachers themselves to work from home, which would be more than logical.
                        ? How is it confirmed? There are no such prohibitions in the order. And then, if the school is equipped with the Internet, finding a teacher, even two, in an empty classroom is not risky. But the school allows the teacher to work not with his own personal means, but with the employer's capacities, which is quite reasonable. There is also a record of the teacher’s working time, which affects the amount of salary. Also not an unimportant factor. Somehow it’s necessary to close the timesheet ...
                        Quote: Egor-dis
                        Judging by the fact that you are smoothly slipping into rudeness

                        I quote
                        patstalom ....

                        Do you recognize the author? What insults, what rudeness? ".... Khamstvo (named after Noah's son - Ham) is a type of human behavior, characterized by a rude, arrogant and harsh way of communication. A person uses rudeness in communication with the aim of clearly demonstrating his superiority ..." You are offering me to treat amnesia , you are telling that you are "patsstal". Am I missing something?
                        And in conclusion:
                        http://mondnr.ru/dokumenty/prikazy-mon/send/4-prikazy/3967-prikaz-636-ot-03-04-2020-g
                      4. Egor-dis
                        Egor-dis April 5 2020 13: 07 New
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                        Did not impress. Initially, you wrote about remote control from school classrooms. When this argument didn't take off, you decided to move out to the "meetings". As I expected, you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
                      5. Den717
                        Den717 April 5 2020 13: 39 New
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                        Quote: Egor-dis
                        Did not impress.

                        True, she is unpretentious.
                        Quote: Egor-dis
                        When this argument did not take off, you decided to move out to the "meetings"

                        Actually, it’s you who moved away from your statement that the DPR has neither the Internet, nor computers, that there is complete darkness, which their ministers are not aware of. You are slippery "comrade", dodgy. Bye...
  • Asad
    Asad 31 March 2020 19: 20 New
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    The supply of material, as if from Ukraine tried! Previously, it was possible to put a minus to the author?
    1. German Titov
      German Titov 31 March 2020 22: 29 New
      +1
      If it helps, I put you + ... V / on I do not live. I love and proud of Donetsk, Donbass. We never left here. I am in Donetsk and "Donetsk". I remember how "lava" gives a landing. And the author is fraudulent ...
  • Larisa Byvsheva_3
    Larisa Byvsheva_3 31 March 2020 21: 02 New
    +2
    You just have to go to school and not be fooled. There is no covert 19th in the DPR.
    1. German Titov
      German Titov 31 March 2020 21: 57 New
      +1
      Well, this is the DNI !!! “Somewhere, someone,“ they knocked down the crown. ”You, Larisa,“ Clever and Krasavishna ”- do not undergo general psychosis and panic.
  • Yegor Makhov
    April 1 2020 08: 43 New
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    From 1. 04. a similar situation in the libraries of the republics (at least in the LPR - according to the DPR is still unknown). Access to the library is closed for readers, and staff gather daily at workplaces. They will solve crosswords.