A book by a professor from the USA on the falsification of the Katyn case

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On March 25, Tver hosted the presentation of the book by Professor Grover Ferr "The Secret of the Katyn Shooting: Evidence, Decisions." An event with the participation of prominent politicians and historians took place in the building of the branch of the Moscow Humanitarian and Economic Institute.

About it сообщает SM-News website.



This is the second book written by Ferr on the Katyn case. Like the first, it refutes the officially recognized version, where the Soviet Union is called guilty of a crime.

Private donations were used to finance the translation and publication of the book in Russia. Especially great contribution was made by publicist Anatoly Wasserman and Russian civil engineer Alexander Lankin. They donated almost 100 thousand rubles to the book.

Contributions came not only from Russia, but also from the USA, Bulgaria, Germany, France, so the book can be called an international project.

Although the author himself was not present at the event, he made a video call. Among other things, the scientist explained his interest in the topic of the Katyn execution:

When Gorbachev and Yeltsin said that the Soviet Union was guilty of this, at first, like the rest of the world, I accepted this. But then more and more questions began to appear on this issue. I realized that I had to research this, and wrote the first book.
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  1. +41
    30 March 2020 09: 43
    Balm for the soul.
    1. +25
      30 March 2020 09: 53
      Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
      Balm for the soul.
      Lying on long legs, but clay walks, and the truth, though slowly but firmly steps on the ground. good
      1. +32
        30 March 2020 10: 56
        It is good that there are caring people in the world who uphold the truth!
        For every lie always gives rise to a new lie and liars, profiting from it.

        In the Smolensk region in the fall of 1941, Polish prisoners of war were shot in the Katyn forest by Nazi invaders. There is plenty of evidence incriminating the fascists (German bullets and the way the Germans massively destroyed prisoners throughout Europe, etc.).

        As for the Poles supposedly destroyed in Kalinin, most of them in 1940, in strict accordance with the laws of that time, were sentenced to camps from three to eight years. Someone was sent to a construction site in Kamchatka, someone was transported to the North. Some of them were sent to Western Ukraine, probably for investigative actions. In 1941, a few weeks after the start of World War II, the Germans occupied the entire territory of Western Ukraine. Hitler did not feel any sympathy for the citizens of Poland, so they were simply destroyed. More than two hundred convicted Poles from the Ostashkovsky camp tragically died in 1942 when transported on two barges from Khabarov to the port of Naryan-Mar.

        Between 1941 and 1943 In the vicinity of the village of Mednoye there were several hospitals. The Soviet soldiers of the 29th Army, who died in wounded medical battalions, were also buried there. А in the place where the Polish memorial is now located, there was a collection point for the bodies of the Red Army soldiers who died in battles, whose memory has not yet been immortalized. In the 2006 year, representatives of the “Union of Soviet Officers” erected a marble slab on the territory of the Mednovsky Memorial in memory of the Soviet soldiers of the 29 Army who fell in battle. But soon the stove mysteriously disappeared.

        Myths of the Copper.
        1. +1
          30 March 2020 11: 23
          The fact of the matter is that the penetration from the Luger's cartridge, I remember that "Komsomolskaya Pravda" in the early 90s explained this by the fact that the NKVD were armed with Browning. request As it was not believed.
          1. +42
            30 March 2020 11: 29
            Against Gorbachev, it is necessary to institute criminal proceedings not only for his treason, but also for the very falsification of the Katyn case.

            Deprive Gorbachev of pensions and all life benefits in the Russian Federation!
            Enough in Russia to honor the traitor and the bastard - a foreign agent, Bear Humpback!

            Victor Ilyukhin The truth about Katyn! • 3 Feb. 2014 year


            Gorbachev is an ordinary American agent. • Jul 13 2013 year
            1. +12
              30 March 2020 11: 55
              Private donations were used to finance the translation and publication of the book in Russia.
              Especially great contribution was made by publicist Anatoly Wasserman and Russian civil engineer Alexander Lankin. They donated almost 100 thousand rubles to the book.

              Anatoly Wasserman, a publicist, analyst and political consultant, has long been actively involved in exposing the Goebbels falsification of the Katyn affair.
              Thanks to him for this - for everything that he honestly and not indifferently does in this regard!

              Anatoly Wasserman. "Katyn murder": refutation of the heirs of Goebbels. • May 6, 2017.
              1. -2
                30 March 2020 15: 46
                Ilyukhin has no place among these "patriots"
            2. +12
              30 March 2020 11: 58
              Quote: Tatiana
              Deprive Gorbachev of pensions and all life benefits in the Russian Federation!
              Enough in Russia to honor the traitor and the bastard - a foreign agent, Bear Humpback!

              Send this Russophobe to the Poles, let them pay him his pension and listen to his raving about "perestroika, accordion, hurray"
              1. +11
                30 March 2020 12: 18
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Send this Russophobe to the Poles, let them pay him his pension and listen to his raving about "perestroika, accordion, hurray"

                The Poles will not want to spend their people's money on his pompous funeral on the corrupt 89-year-old political "Mavr" - Gorbachev! There are no fools in Poland - there are only beneficiaries!

                So Humpback will hang on the neck of the Russian people both during his life and during the pompous state funeral and commemoration at the expense of the Russians, as well as after his death with the protection of various monuments to the bastard by liberals in the government of the Russian Federation and presidents of the Russian Federation until until Russia geopolitically disappears!
            3. +1
              30 March 2020 14: 13
              Interesting, and who has the right to initiate this business? maybe an ordinary citizen?
              1. +9
                30 March 2020 14: 22
                Quote: aybolyt678
                Interesting, and who has the right to initiate this business? maybe an ordinary citizen?

                An ordinary citizen can also initiate this case - only then he will not have enough money for lawyers for counterclaims or third-party lawsuits against him from our Russian liberal authorities!
              2. +5
                30 March 2020 15: 43
                Quote: aybolyt678
                Interesting, and who has the right to initiate this business?

                For example, Viktor Ivanovich Ilyukhin:
                - Deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, member of the Communist Party faction.
                - State Counselor of Justice, 2nd class,
                - Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Security,
                - Member of the State Duma Anti-Corruption Commission,
                - Member of the State Duma commission for the consideration of federal budget expenditures aimed at ensuring the defense and state security of the Russian Federation.
                - Chairman of the political movement "In support of the army, defense industry and military science" -
                personally involved in this matter.

                In connection with the confessions of an employee of the secret service, who worked during the reign of B.N. Yeltsin mass production of false documents, followed by forging them in the state archives, and other circumstances, deputy Ilyukhin conducted his own investigation on this subject and made an official statement.
                Below is a video of his statement of June 3, 2010, and on March 19, 2011 V. Ilyukhin (62 years old) strangely died unexpectedly.

                A major forgery of secret documents in state archives. Jun 3 2010 year
            4. +7
              30 March 2020 21: 23
              Quote: Tatiana
              Against Gorbachev, it is necessary to institute criminal proceedings not only for his treason, but also for the very falsification of the Katyn case.

              Do you need to bring a case? Against Gorbachev? And against Khrushchev for the same reasons do not want to bring? But he was the first to try to use Katyn against Stalin. Yes, and Gorbachev that one made a decision on the transfer of materials and repentance to the Poles? There were Shevardnadze, and Yakovlev, and Kryuchkov, and Sokolov, and some other members .... Be consistent. For these reasons, it is necessary to institute proceedings against the entire Central Committee of the CPSU. This much later, many of them were repainted in different colors, like rotting meat .... And they did not fall from the moon, but were grown in the bowels of the Communist Party of the era of stagnation. There were no strangers, there were only ours - the leaders of the Communist Party. And now I’ll ask you, could these communists lead the country to prosperity? I think the answer is obvious, as is the reason for the collapse of a huge country - the CPSU, in the pursuit of mass, absorbed the entire active detachment hungry for power and profit, and this detachment successfully gained leading positions in the CPSU and spread it over time. The social guidelines of the communist movement are still attractive to a large mass of people. But the trouble is, the nature of human greed was not defeated. And today, most of those who are the most screaming for communism, the restoration of the USSR, are actively shaking the current government, they are fighting primarily for a bread place in the new government or for the money of foreign opponents of this government. The aspirations of the people for the purpose of that struggle are mentioned only at rallies and in slogans. In realities, the people there is nothing to catch. These fighters for justice are considered by the people only as a sacred sacrifice and a ram for the demolition of power.
              1. +3
                30 March 2020 22: 00
                Quote: Den717
                I think the answer is obvious, how obvious is the reason for the collapse of a huge country - In the pursuit of mass, the CPSU absorbed the entire active detachment hungry for power and profit, and this detachment successfully gained leading positions in the CPSU and spread it over time.
                Everything is correct. For example, the same Anatoly Sobchak did not hide the fact that he had joined the CPSU to decompose the CPSU and the USSR from the inside!
                By the way, party foam - it is foam in "ER" too!
                Quote: Den717
                The social guidelines of the communist movement are still attractive to a large mass of people.
                Well, what can you suggest that there is no party "foam" in principle?
                1. +1
                  31 March 2020 06: 23
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  By the way, party foam - it is foam in "ER" too!

                  And who is arguing? Any ruling party suffers from this.
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Well, what can you suggest that there is no party "foam" in principle?

                  This problem is tormenting all structures that depend on the loyalty of its members. I am not an expert in party building. I think that everything that can be offered is already being done, but there is no escape from betrayal. Even the threat of death will not stop betrayal. I think this is incurable, because man is by nature material, and no one can open human thoughts against his will. Therefore, thoughts, motives for the actions of an individual are difficult to predict from the outside. Hence, deception is eternal.
            5. +4
              31 March 2020 05: 54
              Quote: Tatiana
              Victor Ilyukhin The truth about Katyn! • 3 Feb. 2014 year

              drinks
              Viktor Ivanovich Ilyukhin (March 1, 1949, Sosnovka, Penza Region - March 19, 2011, Kratovo, Moscow Region)
              Speeches V.I. Ilyukhin at the Plenary meeting of the State Duma during the discussion
              Statements “In memory of the victims of the Katyn tragedy” 26.11.2010/XNUMX/XNUMX

              On November 26, the State Duma adopted the Statement "On the Katyn tragedy and its victims."
              The document officially defines the position of Russia in relation to the events of 1940 in the Smolensk region, where the bodies of Soviet state security destroyed more than 4 thousand Polish officers interned in the USSR in 1939.

              The country must know its "heroes"
              Voting results on the draft statement of the State Duma "On the Katyn tragedy and its victims":
              399 deputies participated in the vote : United Russia 313 (99,4%); Communist Party of the Russian Federation 57 (100%); LDPR-0; Fair Russia - 29 (76,3%)
              Did not vote51 (11,3%): United Russia -2 (0,6%); LDPR-40 (100%) KPRF-0;
              Fair Russia - 9 (23,7%)
              "FOR"- 342 (76,0%); United Russia -313 (99,4%); Fair Russia-29 (76,3%)
              (Communist Party-0)
              "Abstained"- 0
              "Against" - United Russia and Fair Russia-0; Communist Party of the Russian Federation 57 (100%)
              Moscow
              November 26 2010 years
              N 4504-5 DG
              Statement. About the Katyn tragedy and its victims
              OF THE STATE DUMA OF THE FEDERAL MEETING
              RUSSIAN FEDERATION

              About the Katyn tragedy and its victims

              Seventy years ago, thousands of Polish citizens were shot in prison camps for the NKVD of the USSR and in prisons in the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR and Byelorussian SSR.
              In official Soviet propaganda, responsibility for this atrocity, collectively called the Katyn tragedy, was attributed to Nazi criminals. This version for many years remained the subject of underlying, but no less fierce discussions in Soviet society and invariably generated anger, resentment and distrust of the Polish people.
              In the early 1990s, our country took important steps towards the establishment of truth in the Katyn tragedy. It was recognized that the mass extermination of Polish citizens on the territory of the USSR during World War II was an act of arbitrariness of a totalitarian state, which also repressed hundreds of thousands of Soviet people for political and religious convictions, on social and other grounds.
              ...............
              ................
              Chairman of the State Duma
              Federal Assembly
              Russian Federation
              B.V. Gryzlov

        2. +13
          30 March 2020 11: 55
          Quote: Tatiana
          It is good that there are caring people in the world who uphold the truth!
          For every lie always gives rise to a new lie and liars, profiting from it.

          Truth is, of course, good. Lying is always bad. And the first thing to start with is not to publish books in the West. We must stop duplicating the lie with us.

          As the lie was recognized at the level of the head of state, so at the same level, one must have the courage to abandon it.
          It is necessary to demolish the damned mother for the sake of political correctness and to humiliate herself the Katyn Memorial and treat this place like any other military grave. And to any other burial place of victims of Nazi aggression.

          But the truth ... Lies ... Even without this book we know what this professor said there. Neither the West as a whole, nor Poland specifically can be convinced by this book, nor by hundreds and thousands of others - Russophobic and anti-Soviet hysteria, cultivated for decades and nourished by many millions of dollars, is much stronger.
          There, J. Chiesa in Italy writes good books about Russia and makes the right films. And who needs it there, in Italy? And in America, M. Moore is trying something, taking something off - the same effect. And this, in general, a good and correct book will go unnoticed in the West. There, in America, no one remembers about M. Twain, J. London, O. Henry and T. Dreiser, and such a book was forgotten before the release.

          I sincerely do not understand - for the sake of what we are fooling, humiliating ourselves before the Poles? Do we depend on them financially, economically, or something else? Have we ever seen anything from them or heard good things in recent decades, in particular? Do they honor our shared memory of World War II?
          We see from them only dirt, lies and meanness. So for what ????
          1. +7
            30 March 2020 12: 24
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            As the lie was recognized at the level of the head of state, so at the same level, one must have the courage to abandon it.

            Do you think that Putin has changed his mind on the Katyn case, and he just does not have the courage to admit it?
            1. +7
              30 March 2020 14: 18
              Quote: Tuzik
              and he just does not have the courage to admit it?

              "courage" was enough for the Pension reform!
            2. +7
              30 March 2020 16: 02
              Did he really have "his own opinion"?
              1. 0
                30 March 2020 16: 14
                The question is why, expressing the official point of view of Russia, he does not take into account new publications, books and films on this topic?
          2. +6
            30 March 2020 12: 49
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Truth is, of course, good. Lying is always bad. And the first thing to start with is not to publish books in the West.

            Controversial statement. The charm of the situation lies precisely in the fact that even in the West they no longer believe in this lie and some researchers present a different, alternative point of view on this event, which runs counter to the general policy of demonizing Russia.
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            We must stop duplicating the lie with us.
            But this is an absolutely true statement. Stop repenting for sins that Russia has not committed.
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Even without this book, we know what this professor said there.
            No, we don’t know. It publishes facts that have not previously been voiced and which testify in favor of the fact that this crime lies with the conscience of Germany. Unfortunately, this book was released in a limited edition of only 1000 copies. Nevertheless, everything big begins with a small one and the precedent for reviewing the Katyn execution has been created.
            1. +7
              30 March 2020 13: 24
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              Truth is, of course, good. Lying is always bad. And the first thing to start with is not to publish books in the West.

              Controversial statement. The charm of the situation lies precisely in the fact that even in the West they no longer believe in this lie and some researchers present a different, alternative point of view on this event, which runs counter to the general policy of demonizing Russia.

              Yes, I am in favor with both hands when at least someone thinking appears in the West. Only one-two-ten professors with a circulation of 1000 copies is not a way out of the trap of Russophobia. Three dozen words of the President make more noise than three dozen such professors.
              Therefore, it is necessary to encourage such people - both morally and, possibly, financially (say, at the expense of the Ministry of Culture to publish such books, and not films that distort our history). But these people will not make the weather - you need to work globally. Without denying these professors, pay, for example, Spielberg - let him make a true film about Stalingrad, or according to Yu Bondarev (fond memory!), Or according to B. Vasiliev, and not what our "masters" blurt out. I think that against the background of the fact that our officials are stealing, this is not so much money. And he is a creative person, he will light up.

              Quote: Nyrobsky
              a precedent for the revision of the Katyn execution has been created.

              You are right, Dmitry! The precedent for revising the Katyn case (and not only) was created by all Western Russophobia. If the Poles, for example, "revised" and we did not liberate Poland, but occupied it, then our hands are completely free. We will "reconsider" so much that all over the world diarrhea with blood will begin - you just have to read the archives aloud ... In front of the camera ... To the President ...
              1. +3
                30 March 2020 13: 30
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                to pay, for example, to Spielberg - let him make a truthful film about Stalingrad, either according to Yu. Bondarev (blessed memory!), or according to B. Vasiliev, and not what our "masters" blurt out.
                This is yes. I can't watch the latest films about the war at all, tk. they were filmed not by the truth, but by a free fantasy spiced with fabrications of the "creator", such as "I am an artist, as I see it" and have nothing to do with the real events of those years.
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                If the Poles, for example, "revised" and we did not liberate Poland, but occupied it, then our hands are completely free. We will "reconsider" so much that all over the world diarrhea with blood will begin - you just have to read the archives aloud ... In front of the camera ... To the President ...

                Along the way, this work has already begun, and it greatly spoils the appetite and mood of the Poles. hi
          3. +5
            30 March 2020 13: 18
            We must stop duplicating the lie with us.

            Moreover, to stop doing this at the very, very top!
            1. +1
              30 March 2020 13: 31
              Quote: NordUral
              As the lie was recognized at the level of the head of state, so at the same level, one must have the courage to abandon it.

              I said something about it above
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              As the lie was recognized at the level of the head of state, so at the same level, one must have the courage to abandon it.
              1. +2
                30 March 2020 13: 33
                Nothing, repetition is the mother of learning. And then it doesn’t even reach the tenth time.
    2. +33
      30 March 2020 10: 12
      Interestingly, what is the circulation of the book?
      Such a book should be issued in large circulation and its publication should be financed at the state level.
      1. +17
        30 March 2020 10: 42
        Translate and distribute to Polish at the border in Polish
      2. +9
        30 March 2020 10: 47
        Quote: Gene84
        Such a book should be issued in large circulation and its publication should be financed at the state level.

        ========
        I am afraid that this is exactly what it is better NOT TO DO: Russia will immediately be accused of “falsifying history” (in its favor), since the “exclusive right” of falsifying history was appropriated exclusively by the “most crappy” countries of the West!
        PS But "hunchback" coupled with drunken boiled "spruce" - for this all (betrayal Motherland) for the sake of the "west" should ANSWER! Only the second one has been "steaming" in hell for a long time, but the "humpback" something the devils have already been tired of waiting!
        1. +4
          30 March 2020 11: 48
          No, they are not afraid of the devil, for he will make perestroika there.
        2. +2
          30 March 2020 13: 48
          Vladimir, don’t be afraid! They accused us, they accuse us and for a long time they will accuse us of all mortal sins. BUT US! The dog barks and the caravan goes.
        3. Alf
          +3
          30 March 2020 18: 34
          Quote: venik
          but the "humpback" something devils have already been tired of waiting!

      3. +2
        30 March 2020 13: 18
        This will be done, as well as many other things, when the State returns to the country.
      4. +2
        30 March 2020 14: 06
        Initial data: circulation - 1000 copies, volume volume - 290 pages, publishing price - 100 rubles.
        earlier from here
        https://planeta.ru/campaigns/furr

        Many related links
      5. +3
        30 March 2020 14: 22
        our state for the freedom of business, for social justice in the inviolability of private property, and in general our state has other goals!
      6. Alf
        0
        30 March 2020 18: 29
        Quote: Gene84
        Such a book should be issued in large circulation and its publication should be financed at the state level.

        And to admit that the Infallible was mistaken?
  2. +14
    30 March 2020 09: 45
    The struggle with the rewriting of history by Poland and the Tribal Republics continues. May 9 is near ...
    1. +4
      30 March 2020 09: 57
      Quote: Tank jacket
      The struggle with the rewriting of history by Poland and the Tribal Republics continues.

      And Yeltsin with Gorbachev Poles or Balts?
      1. +21
        30 March 2020 09: 59
        Worse, they are Judah. Moreover, Gorby is stupid, and Borya intentionally.
        1. +7
          30 March 2020 10: 09
          Quote: PalBor
          Worse, they are Judah. Moreover, Gorby is stupid, and Borya intentionally.

          Yes, it’s clear ... It’s just that the Poles and the Balts, like limitrophs, to one degree or another, howl raise to the extent that they are allowed, well, or not allowed.
        2. +13
          30 March 2020 10: 11
          Quote: PalBor
          Moreover, Gorby is stupid, and Borya intentionally.

          Well no. Two of a Kind
          1. +4
            30 March 2020 13: 19
            There is such a breed - bastards!
            1. +2
              30 March 2020 13: 22
              Quote: NordUral
              There is such a breed - bastards!

              Bursting to power
              1. +4
                30 March 2020 13: 24
                Good addition, Sergey, honest! And the followers are still in power!
                1. +2
                  30 March 2020 13: 30
                  They will not be translated. From the word never
                  1. +1
                    30 March 2020 13: 33
                    So the bugs themselves did not go away, Sergey.
                    1. +1
                      30 March 2020 13: 37
                      Joke.
                      - Why are you so sad?
                      - The bugs got ...
                      - Where do they live?
                      - In the couch ...
                      - So throw it in the trash
                      In a week...
                      - Well, threw it away.
                      - But the point .... They brought him back ...
                      1. 0
                        30 March 2020 14: 03
                        Nothing, we will persevere.
                      2. +2
                        31 March 2020 04: 27
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        They will not be translated. From the word never

                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        - But the point .... They brought him back ...

                        Maybe it's time to think about the very device of power? What is happening there that once honorable and revered people turn into parasites? Notice, after all, not a single deputy, not a single official has refused salaries, which are simply blatantly cynical in comparison with the average salaries in the country.
                        Quote: Observer 33
                        It’s just interesting, are they already coming to power as bastards, or are they becoming them after gaining power?

                        There is a certain filter, but the main thing here is to cultivate greed by satisfying all requests:
              2. +1
                30 March 2020 13: 37
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Quote: NordUral
                There is such a breed - bastards!

                Bursting to power

                It’s just interesting, are they already coming to power as bastards, or are they becoming them after gaining power?
                1. +1
                  30 March 2020 14: 02
                  Part - initially bastards, and part recognize themselves already in power.
        3. +4
          30 March 2020 10: 50
          Quote: PalBor
          Worse, they are Judah. Moreover, Gorby is stupid, and Borya intentionally.

          ======
          Sorry! I missed your comment and popped my 5 kopecks. " drinks
        4. +3
          30 March 2020 12: 06
          Quote: PalBor
          Worse, they are Judah. Moreover, Gorby is stupid, and Borya intentionally.

          And stupidity and intentionality, everything has its price of "$ 30". There is such a breed of homosapiens, born in one country, but being a citizen of another country.
      2. +3
        30 March 2020 10: 00
        Quote: mat-vey
        Quote: Tank jacket
        The struggle with the rewriting of history by Poland and the Tribal Republics continues.

        And Yeltsin with Gorbachev Poles or Balts?

        These have no citizenship .. well, or should not be ..
      3. +9
        30 March 2020 10: 10
        Quote: mat-vey
        And Yeltsin with Gorbachev Poles or Balts?

        And traitors have no nationality.
        Like the criminals
      4. +6
        30 March 2020 10: 16
        "The liberal model has outlived its usefulness" (c) How the liberal view of historical events has outlived its usefulness.
      5. +9
        30 March 2020 10: 36
        Quote: mat-vey
        Quote: Tank jacket
        The struggle with the rewriting of history by Poland and the Tribal Republics continues.

        And Yeltsin with Gorbachev Poles or Balts?

        So Putin pleaded guilty of Katyn.
        Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, taking part in mourning events dedicated to the 70th anniversary of the tragedy in Katyn, said that all the documents relating to the shooting of thousands of Polish officers by the Soviet army in 1940 were declassified, and blamed this crime on Beria and the NKVD.

        "Nothing that would hide the truth about this crime, about the mechanisms of this crime, is not closed with seven seals - everything has been opened and shown, including the million documents that have been transferred to our Polish partners," Putin said in a joint press release. conferences with his Polish counterpart Donald Tusk.
        1. +13
          30 March 2020 10: 47
          Well, so he vowed not to raise the retirement age.
        2. 0
          30 March 2020 11: 01
          Please tell us more about the excavations in the Copper?
      6. +3
        30 March 2020 10: 48
        Quote: mat-vey
        And Yeltsin with Gorbachev Poles or Balts?

        ======
        They are EVEN WORSE !!! Both of them are TRAITORS! (and the "popolizy" of the West). am
      7. +3
        30 March 2020 11: 27
        Quote: mat-vey
        And Yeltsin with Gorbachev Poles or Balts?

        Henpecked.
        Mikhail Sergeyevich enters the bathhouse, all men are hiding in basins.
        - What are you guys?
        - Mikhailo Sergeich, isn’t Raisa with you?
  3. +23
    30 March 2020 09: 47
    When Gorbachev and Yeltsin said the Soviet Union was guilty of this

    Here the bastards framed the whole Soviet people and Russia, including ... there is no forgiveness for them in this or that world ... villains.
    That is why the presidents of our country should be responsible for their affairs ... there should be no immunity to them in principle.
    1. +20
      30 March 2020 10: 31
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      no immunity to them should be in principle

      However, the authorities do not agree with you, although the following words were uttered by the president in December 2014, that the head of state is responsible for everything that happens in the country, and he is not going to evade it. But amendments to the Constitution of Russia will establish immunity for the president after his resignation.
      1. +9
        30 March 2020 11: 00
        But amendments to the Constitution of Russia will establish immunity for the president after his resignation.

        The law on the non-jurisdiction of the retired president was signed by Putin back in 1999 at number 1, as soon as Yeltsin transferred power to him.
        1. +6
          30 March 2020 12: 09
          Quote: glory1974
          But amendments to the Constitution of Russia will establish immunity for the president after his resignation.

          The law on the non-jurisdiction of the retired president was signed by Putin back in 1999 at number 1, as soon as Yeltsin transferred power to him.

          Come on, only the former President ... God be his judge ...

          And what about guarantees for the Family in the new Constitution will be written?
          Tanya pumped millions of credit money through Australian banks - does the Constitution say nothing about this?
          And on the basis of what article of the Constitution does the Red Fox still sit in a soft chair and continues to steal?
          And for Serdyukov, will there be a separate article in the Constitution? The Criminal Code is, but for some reason, it is also not subject to jurisdiction and, moreover, continues to harm Russia.

          The Constitution ... A bullet in the back of his head and the Constitution, and the Basic, and the Law, and in his mouth compote ...
          1. +2
            30 March 2020 16: 10
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            And what about guarantees for the Family in the new Constitution will be written?
            Tanya pumped millions of credit money through Australian banks - does the Constitution say nothing about this?
            And on the basis of what article of the Constitution does the Red Fox still sit in a soft chair and continues to steal?
            And for Serdyukov, will there be a separate article in the Constitution? The Criminal Code is, but for some reason, it is also not subject to jurisdiction and, moreover, continues to harm Russia.

            Do you have any doubts about this?
            1. +1
              30 March 2020 17: 35
              Quote: mat-vey
              Do you have any doubts about this?

              On my own behalf, I could guarantee them all, this whole friendly family, only the last paragraph
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              A bullet in the back of his head and the Constitution, and the Basic, and the Law, and in his mouth compote ...

              With pleasure... am
              1. +1
                30 March 2020 17: 42
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                On my own behalf, I could guarantee them all, this whole friendly family, only the last paragraph

                They have other guarantors - the guard grew.
    2. +2
      31 March 2020 04: 50
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Here the bastards framed the whole Soviet people and Russia, including ... there is no forgiveness for them in this or that world ... villains.

      Are you talking about HMS and EBN? But what about those "kind" people, with the "gods" (or saints?) Who curse what the Soviet power stands for and do not stop paying those who, through lies, betrayal, and plunder, contributed to its destruction? What about those storytellers who continue to take care of Judas families for budget money?
      At the Katyn Memorial, you need to install a billboard and let it scroll around the clock materials about what Katyn really is.
  4. +27
    30 March 2020 09: 49
    The American professor restores historical justice in relation to the USSR, violated by the leadership of our country.
    Survived.
    No, I respect Grover Ferr, a deep bow to him, but we ourselves ... Not a shame? !!
    1. +14
      30 March 2020 10: 04
      It should be a shame to those who, for the sake of justifying the destruction of the USSR, slandered their country and people, the history of their country, justified the crimes of the invaders of their country, the interventionists and the Nazis, rush to defend the Russophobic Poles, who unleashed the Soviet-Polish war during the Civil War with the aim of the seizure of Russian territories by them, who expose the fact that he returned the Russian lands seized by the Poles to Russia for Stalin's crime, but they have no conscience at all.
    2. +9
      30 March 2020 10: 06
      Yu.I. Mukhin trampled on this falsification in great detail and convincingly in the book "Anti-Russian meanness".
    3. +6
      30 March 2020 10: 13
      And who should be ashamed? Do you, or I, or millions of others who disagree with Gorbachev and Yeltsin form an opinion about these events at the official, state level and voice it to the world?
      1. +7
        30 March 2020 18: 13
        Quote: Reklastik
        And who should be ashamed?

        Quote: tatra
        It should be a shame to those who, for the sake of justifying the destruction of the USSR, slandered their country and people, the history of their country, justified the crimes of the invaders of their country, the interventionists and the Nazis, rush to defend the Russophobic Poles with their "breasts"

        The man, being the President of the Great Country, took the American Express card with $ 200000 from the President of South Korea. Now you can't buy the head of the district administration with this money, but here - the President of the USSR! When BK Pugo asked that Man: "Are you going to hand over this money to the party treasury?", That Man replied that "Then, then ..." And then his wife got outfits unprecedented in her native country.
        And also "later" this Man, being the former President of the USSR, was not ashamed to advertise pizza and suitcases. And you think that this villain, in principle, can be ashamed?


        And yes. A person with a capital letter is not from respect, but from the magnitude of the Crime.
        Judas was even more honest - he could not resist, he hanged himself. And THIS was the Nobel Prize (almost a million American money) in the form of a bribe and did not choke. And now he is also trying to teach us "How to reorganize the Rabkrin" ....

        Rarely do people wish for evil and gloating - but there, above, Raiku was noticed for a long time. Probably, at that moment when marble was laid in the pool at the wrong expense in the wrong shade and she ordered the peasants to break it with sledgehammers. And I hope that the Dog of Humpback in the last hours and days will measure out 270 million Soviet citizens for all those devoted to them.
    4. +5
      30 March 2020 10: 18
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      The American professor restores historical justice in relation to the USSR, violated by the leadership of our country.
      Survived.
      No, I respect Grover Ferr, a deep bow to him, but we ourselves ... Not a shame? !!

      And there it is customary not to mention such a concept as "shame" in vain. Actually, this has been planned for a long time and Alexander Yakovlev is not a fact that he thought of this first. It is possible that the first was one uneducated intriguer and, importantly, such an idea could have come to him even before the XX Congress
    5. +2
      30 March 2020 10: 53
      They themselves also had material on this matter, at least the books of Yu.I. Mukhina (editor-in-chief of the later closed newspapers "Duel" and "Svoyimyami") - 1995 books "Katyn detective", 10 copies. and 000 "Anti-Russian meanness", 2003 copies.
    6. +1
      30 March 2020 13: 41
      I am ashamed. And it’s a shame for a long time, and I think it will be a shame for a long time.
  5. +4
    30 March 2020 09: 51
    Power is in the truth!
    1. 0
      30 March 2020 10: 16
      Quote: knn54
      Power is in the truth!

      1. +2
        31 March 2020 05: 06
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Power is in the truth!

        In fact, there are several points that can be taken in different ways:
        Hello, Fascist? This is Ilya.
        We need trophies.
        All right.
        - Heil, Hitler.
        - Hi.
        - And who is this?
        - Own.
        Your own? "His own unwillingness
        brother "-
        fascist proverb.
        - The fascist.
        - Danila.
        - German?
        - Russian.
        - In general, my grandfather died in the war.
        - It happens.

        I understand this so that for the sake of a “good” cause (to avenge the death of a friend or return money to his brother ???) can you make a deal with the “Fascist”? How is it ... "The end justifies the means"? But in full, it sounds like:
        “If the goal is soul salvationthen the end justifies the means "...
        This is the power of truth, and not whose truth will pull more in dollar terms.
  6. +12
    30 March 2020 09: 51
    They used all means to destroy the USSR without thinking about the consequences. And today's rulers of Russia encourage all these insinuations. By participating in events in the Katyn forest. Condemning and recognizing the responsibility of the USSR in non-existent crimes. Equate it with Nazi Germany. The agreements concluded by IVStalin are doubtful.
  7. +7
    30 March 2020 09: 52
    I think it will be possible to start communicating with the Poles only after the demolition of the Reagan monuments. And the purpose of communication should be reduced to the fact that the Poles pay and repent, pay and repent .... The Poles made their "civilizational choice". Russia agrees with them and will not give money. laughing
    1. +18
      30 March 2020 10: 34
      It will be possible to communicate with the Polish authorities only after Russophobes are removed from power in their country.
  8. +17
    30 March 2020 09: 54
    I propose on the pedestal of the monument to Yeltsin, to erect a monument to Grover .. The man has the courage to write the truth .. Respect !! It seems to me that there will be more and more such people in the West .. Of course, respect to Wasserman as well .. Russian intellectual!
  9. +13
    30 March 2020 09: 56
    I never believed in the Katyn shooting. There were a lot of stretches and inconsistencies there. Mass executions of such proportions, without the slightest trace in the archives? And the archives of the NKVD were preserved, and in large order. Anderson’s army was fed, watered, and even sent west, it seems, through Persia, they refused to fight on the side of the Red Army ... But earlier, God knows how many Polish officers were shot ... it’s not logical.
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    1. +9
      30 March 2020 10: 09
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      Tagged and EBN have done too much to forget their art ...

      From the current leadership, we will not wait for a true assessment of their art. Another 20 years of their reign and there is no true story for new generations.
      1. +21
        30 March 2020 11: 21
        Ptolemy: "He who does not remember his past is not worthy of the future."
        More and more often in the media, films, books, attempts are made to "correct" the history of our country with lies about how bad life was in the USSR. Who benefits from our history of life in the USSR being presented in a negative light, where there has never been a normal life? It is beneficial to those who robbed our country, to all the oligarchs and billionaires. Therefore, it will not be through
        Quote: AlexVas44
        20 years of their reign

        true story.
      2. 0
        30 March 2020 13: 27
        I hope that a new government will appear in the country, with our active participation, which will appreciate the deeds of all its predecessors.
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      4. +2
        31 March 2020 05: 11
        Quote: AlexVas44
        Another 20 years of their reign and there is no true story for new generations.

        By analogy with German historians who "ruled" the history of the Russian state.
        But aren't the established monuments to Mannerheim, Gaidar, Solzhenitsyn, Yeltsin a fact that confirms this?
  11. +2
    30 March 2020 10: 02
    We must also prove the falsification of the Holocaust ...
    1. +7
      30 March 2020 10: 22
      It is necessary to force the recognition of the genocide of the Russian multinational people during the Second World War. According to various estimates, 20 million civilians were destroyed by the collective west.
      1. +7
        30 March 2020 11: 02
        I agree with you. But only the genocide of the Soviet people.
        1. +3
          30 March 2020 11: 11
          Soviet people.
      2. +3
        31 March 2020 05: 14
        Quote: Tank jacket
        It is necessary to force the recognition of the genocide of the Russian multinational people during the Second World War. According to various estimates, 20 million civilians were destroyed by the collective west.

        But how to perceive the annihilation of the people in the 90s, and what was done, that for almost 30 years there has been no population growth in the country? How to evaluate these efforts of the authorities?
        I compare this with life in a prison (in the zone), where the number of persons involved varies depending on the new arrivals and those released ... By the way, in leper colony and skin venereal dispensaries, there were no natural reproduction facts either.
        1. +1
          31 March 2020 05: 57
          In the nineties, too, genocide. Losses of 30-40 million people in peacetime.
  12. +11
    30 March 2020 10: 04
    Professor Liberator. True patriots have long repented
    April 7 2010
    Putin: there can be no excuse for crimes in Katyn
    1. +1
      31 March 2020 05: 20
      Quote: onix757
      Professor Liberator. True patriots have long repented
      April 7 2010
      Putin: there can be no excuse for crimes in Katyn

      Let us see how the people will perceive their repentance for their activities in 2000-2024. whether he can appreciate the humor of the pension reform, the irony of VAT and taxation of deposits, the jokes of “zeroing” and rewriting of the guarantee obligations taken.
      I think that the funny eccentricities with the appropriation of the Heroes of Russia and labor, the awarding of the orders of St. Andrew the First-Called in due time will be appreciated by prolonged applause ...
  13. +6
    30 March 2020 10: 04
    Quote: The same Lech
    When Gorbachev and Yeltsin said the Soviet Union was guilty of this

    Here the bastards framed the whole Soviet people and Russia, including ... there is no forgiveness for them in this or that world ... villains.
    That is why the presidents of our country should be responsible for their affairs ... there should be no immunity to them in principle.

    there is no forgiveness for them, but there are Yeltsin Centers wassat
    1. +1
      30 March 2020 13: 29
      Nothing, these buildings will come in handy for children when the time comes to restore justice.
  14. +7
    30 March 2020 10: 07
    The author of the book is a specialist in medieval English literature, a teacher of English and literature, a rather famous person
    But from his free time he has a hobby - he criticizes the policy of de-Stalinization in the USSR, and has original views.

    “Stalin shared Lenin's views on representative democracy and sought to root its principles in the state system of the USSR.
    Stalin was at the head of the struggle for the democratization of Soviet society, the struggle that turned out to be at the very core of the political processes taking place in the USSR in the 1930s and 1950s. Their essence boiled down to the fact that the role of the Communist Party in state administration would be narrowed to “normal” (as in other countries) limits, and the nomination of state managers would take place not on party lists, but on the basis of democratic procedures. ”

    (I read and thought, he was definitely not talking about Gorbachev? smile )
    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ферр,_Гровер
    1. +2
      30 March 2020 10: 22
      Quote: Avior
      The author of the book is a specialist in medieval English literature, a teacher of English and literature, a rather famous person
      But from his free time he has a hobby - he criticizes the policy of de-Stalinization in the USSR, and has original views.

      “Stalin shared Lenin's views on representative democracy and sought to root its principles in the state system of the USSR.
      Stalin was at the head of the struggle for the democratization of Soviet society, the struggle that turned out to be at the very core of the political processes taking place in the USSR in the 1930s and 1950s. Their essence boiled down to the fact that the role of the Communist Party in state administration would be narrowed to “normal” (as in other countries) limits, and the nomination of state managers would take place not on party lists, but on the basis of democratic procedures. ”

      (I read and thought, he was definitely not talking about Gorbachev? smile )
      https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ферр,_Гровер

      So, after all, the question of narrowing the party’s power is one of the key questions that JV Stalin wanted to solve. It is possible that this was one of the main reasons for the promotion of the doctors’s case, which became a very important stage in its (Stalin's) elimination.
      1. +1
        30 March 2020 10: 47
        Well, in the framework of your views, it turns out that it was Gorbachev who was the direct executor of Stalin's views.
        But I can’t agree with that hi
        1. 0
          30 March 2020 11: 00
          Quote: Avior
          Well, in the framework of your views, it turns out that it was Gorbachev who was the direct executor of Stalin's views.
          But I can’t agree with that hi

          Well, if you don’t come up with a "framework for my views" for me and attribute to me what I did not say, then no, it will not work.
          There are qualitative differences between the "Gorbachev formula" (and in fact - Yakovlev) and Stalin's plans - an imaginary "electoral democracy" in the Western manner and direct (with elements of electronic, up to the creation of a full-fledged voting system on a wide range of issues on the basis of the OGAS principle) working democracy. And in order to open the road to direct workers' democracy, it was necessary to narrow the spectrum of the party's influence, which could not be done.
          1. +1
            30 March 2020 11: 19
            After reading about Stalin’s e-labor democracy,
            I realized that we do not understand each other
            hi
            1. 0
              30 March 2020 11: 36
              Quote: Avior
              After reading about Stalin’s e-labor democracy,
              I realized that we do not understand each other
              hi

              Electronic working democracy is one of the options for the further development of the concept. Of course, at first I would have to do without electronics in these matters. But since you know whose line won, no one needs this.
              1. +1
                30 March 2020 12: 37
                If you forgot, then we talked about the views of Stalin, and not yours personally.
                And then you mixed them into porridge.
                You will sort this issue out somehow so that they don’t mix, and then you can discuss
                hi
                1. 0
                  30 March 2020 13: 58
                  Quote: Avior
                  If you forgot, then we talked about the views of Stalin, and not yours personally.
                  And then you mixed them into porridge.
                  You will sort this issue out somehow so that they don’t mix, and then you can discuss
                  hi

                  If you have forgotten, then you attributed to me something that I did not say and made absolutely magical (in the sense without direct logical premises) conclusions about "my views", so that only you can be advised to deal with the question.
                  And I directly answered the question about the qualitative differences between the Stalinist concept and Gorbachevskaya in this regard. Missed it - this is not my problem.
                  Further, I elementarily described what it should have resulted in.
    2. 0
      30 March 2020 13: 31
      It is about Stalin, Sergey! For this, the nomenclature killed him. Of course, not with a shot, but they simply did not allow the doctors to act.
  15. +1
    30 March 2020 10: 10
    everything has long been known and proven. just for some, as my grandmother used to say: "piss in the eyes, and he will say -" God's dew "
  16. +4
    30 March 2020 10: 13
    Thanks to caring people from all over the world who believe that everyone should know the TRUTH.
    1. +2
      30 March 2020 11: 48
      And the world rests on that ... Greetings! hi
      1. +1
        30 March 2020 11: 53
        Hi soldier
        I don’t think that at least ten more such cries will list the mainstream that the Western media carry, but nothing happens in vain.
        How does it sit at home?
        I have a belly holiday !!! I caught carp and bream .... I’m sitting in the heat, I’m cooling the Somovsky beer.
        1. +2
          30 March 2020 12: 04
          It is clear that nobody will especially hear him there, but the age of the Internet helps ...
          And we still have cold water, a sluggish fish, though I didn’t go ...
          1. +1
            30 March 2020 12: 09
            We have March, not March!
            Usually during this time, winter fishing, from the ice, is in full swing .... and now, on the street until +20, there is no ice for a long time, the water was given to the fish in the river, the lakes flooded ... so I caught my catch on the pipe .
            1. +2
              30 March 2020 12: 12
              Quote: rocket757
              Usually during this period, winter fishing, from the ice, is in full swing .... and now, on the street until +20, there is no ice for a long time,

              Yes, in general, the weather is like on May Day. Already weed is breaking through.
              1. +2
                30 March 2020 12: 14
                Yes, it was warm here, too, and now they promise to -6 at night, though not for long.
                So in the world, too, everything is not stable ...
                1. +1
                  30 March 2020 12: 20
                  There were a few light frosts in the morning when the nights were quiet and clear.
              2. +1
                30 March 2020 12: 18
                Ha, from day to day we are waiting for APRICOTS to bloom .... but should bloom closer to the May holidays!
                Just like in Krasnodar! Dogwood finally fades already.
                1. +1
                  April 1 2020 05: 35
                  Lucky, and snow on your chest!
                  1. 0
                    April 1 2020 08: 14
                    Quote: page
                    Lucky, and snow on your chest!

                    A unique spring, weather, the second time in my memory this. Apricots FLOWERED, Yesterday More!
                    If you think about it ... we had 10 days of winter, I didn’t even change tires on a car!
                    One annoying, that time, when the early spring was, we burned, all summer! For cattle, there was no fattening, it is also not a paradise, believe me.
  17. +4
    30 March 2020 10: 14
    This is the second book written by Ferr on the Katyn case. Like the first, it refutes the officially recognized version, where the Soviet Union is called guilty of a crime.

    Voice in the wilderness. The Poles will be stupidly taken with their throats, and the unworthy West will support them, for both of them are vitally interested in defamation and blackening of Russia. But this is all bullshit! The main thing is that at our place such cries should not be heard, but there are problems with this ...
  18. +1
    30 March 2020 10: 25
    Where to buy this book?
  19. +2
    30 March 2020 10: 30
    Andrey from Chelyabinsk ...No, I respect Grover Ferr, a deep bow to him, but we ourselves ... Isn’t it a shame? !!

    We are ashamed of Gorbachev and Yeltsin - they brought the country to a humiliating state. The "cold war" was supplemented by a powerful, with modern MEDIA, "information war", in which we are clearly losing. Any of our truthful information, oh .. it is very difficult to break into a fake, distorting truth - a whole camp of opponents of Russia .. Russophobia - has become the most expensive commodity in the West.
    Ferrat's excellent position and his book will not be heard in the West. Just as they do not hear or see films made by Western journalists about the "Maidan", "Odessa", the war in Donbass, about the "white helmets" in Syria.
    There is an open, impudent rewriting of the history of the Second World War, and for the last two generations in the West, they confidently answer that they defeated Germany in 1945 - exclusively by the USA and England. The word "USSR," is not even pronounced. So, our truth, nobody needs it there, with a few exceptions (the old generation). Now Putin
    prepares a large article on the theme of the Second World War, purely on, earlier secret, archival data. Let's look at the reaction of the West.
    So we have nothing to be ashamed of. We need to continue to remain on the "foundation of truth", not allowing the "hunchback-Yeltsin" to come to power anymore. And improve their education and culture in the country, get off the pro-Western needle. hi
  20. +7
    30 March 2020 10: 38
    A muddy story. Especially such facts offhand:
    Kill Method - Shooting
    Weapons - Pistols "Walter" and "Browning".

    Armed with the NKVD, what, was this weapon? Delirium after all.

    But the Poles do not want to repent for tens of thousands of tortured Soviet prisoners of war since 1920?
    1. 0
      30 March 2020 11: 55
      There is an official Soviet investigation. If you read the materials on this topic, then no version of the guilt of the USSR comes to mind%)
  21. 0
    30 March 2020 10: 46
    In about a hundred years, they will write that Skripaley was poisoned from the neighboring British chemical weapons laboratory ...
  22. +1
    30 March 2020 11: 14
    Interestingly, what is the circulation of the book?
    Such a book should be issued in large circulation and its publication should be financed at the state level.

    So after all, the truth always has a small circulation, but you can’t shrug off the nonsense that we are fed from television, movies, newspapers and the Internet.
    And most importantly, why are our own media and films still showing our grandfathers and great-grandfathers as some frightened barbarians and not builders, defenders, inventors and discoverers ?.
  23. 0
    30 March 2020 11: 16
    Many thanks to Gower Ferr and those who supported this financially. When Gorbach, in a hurry to satisfy the West, pleaded guilty to the USSR, he not only betrayed his country, but also distorted history. Now the foreigner is trying to somehow restore the truth. Sooner or later, the truth triumphs, but in this case the collective West will not accept this truth, and Poland will turn out to be insults, buckets of bile and slops.
  24. 0
    30 March 2020 11: 19
    But the Poles do not want to repent for tens of thousands of tortured Soviet prisoners of war since 1920?

    They are now "democrats" and when the democrats repented?, In their spirit to bomb a defenseless country and say that it was for the sake of democracy and human rights.
  25. -1
    30 March 2020 11: 30
    Lies always have witnesses, and truths don't!
  26. 0
    30 March 2020 11: 37
    Quote: Gene84
    Interestingly, what is the circulation of the book?
    Such a book should be issued in large circulation and its publication should be financed at the state level.

    And not only in wide sale. Having bought the right from the author and the publication, translate into a digit and set it for free download from the Internet.
    1. 0
      30 March 2020 14: 03
      Quote: Victor March 47
      Quote: Gene84
      Interestingly, what is the circulation of the book?
      Such a book should be issued in large circulation and its publication should be financed at the state level.

      And not only in wide sale. Having bought the right from the author and the publication, translate into a digit and set it for free download from the Internet.

      The circulation of the book was 1000 copies. I wrote to the project coordinator, waiting for an answer.
  27. 0
    30 March 2020 11: 53
    she refutes the officially recognized version, where the Soviet Union is called guilty of a crime.

    This is where such an official version is adopted?
  28. +2
    30 March 2020 12: 37
    It's great.
    It is a pity that this is a private initiative.

    So far, the official commission and the Kremlin have stated that this is all Stalin, Beria, the NKVD ....
  29. 0
    30 March 2020 13: 02
    Modestly somehow! Both at the venue and in media coverage.
    In anticipation of the Smolensk tragedy and Polish curtsies, it was necessary not to whisper, but to trumpet, with a good presentation and media coverage. And not in Tver, which many do not know, but in Moscow, St. Petersburg or Smolensk.
  30. -1
    30 March 2020 13: 05
    This is the same as with gas chambers for Jews. There was no tightness there so that they would die there. But the Jews are still yelling about the Holocaust .. But the fact that they unleashed two revolutions in Russia, the Holodomor, the Civil War and the Great Patriotic War is silent ....
    1. -1
      30 March 2020 20: 03
      From your moronic post, the truth is only about revolution! The Russian Empire has been wiping its feet on Jews for 200 years! Now it's time to calculate! Germany anti-Semitism also cost dearly! German Jews created an atomic bomb in the USA! And they could have created in Germany with a different attitude to themselves! And then the war would end differently!
    2. -1
      31 March 2020 12: 35
      Aloizych's fan? Does quarantine interfere with like-minded people? Are you having fun with remote rereading of "Mein Kampf" at speed? winked Take care of your eyes, do not overdo it.
  31. +1
    30 March 2020 13: 08
    This is the second book written by Ferr on the Katyn case. Like the first, it refutes the officially recognized version, where the Soviet Union is called guilty of a crime.

    Books are certainly good. But I think that this topic, together with the topic of the shooting of Soviet Red POWs by the Poles in 1919-1922, should be reflected in detail in history textbooks.
    From school, children need the truth about these events.
  32. +2
    30 March 2020 13: 32
    Even the Americans got their complaints.
  33. 0
    30 March 2020 14: 28
    From December 28, 1945 to January 4, 1946 in Leningrad, a military tribunal tried the German - fascist punishers who committed crimes on the territory of the Leningrad, Pskov and Novgorod regions. 11 people were tried. Among them was a certain Arno Dure, who received 15 years in hard labor, he was still lucky, 8 of them were sentenced to the death penalty by hanging. Arne Dure, born in 1920, said in his testimony that he and the other defendants served in the "Special Purpose" battalion. From the interrogation of Dure, some details about the Katyn forest were revealed. In September 1941, Dure was transferred to the Katyn area and here, together with others, dug holes at night (they slept during the day). The walls of the pits were reinforced with green twigs. Several days in October - November 1941. The SS carried the bodies of Polish, Russian, "unclean Germans" and Jews in cars. 15 - 20 thousand corpses were laid in prepared pits. Dure testified that he had seen a photograph of this grave in German newspapers, and under the photograph it was written that the Russians had done it. (From the publication in the "Military-Historical Journal" No. 7 1991)
  34. +1
    30 March 2020 15: 40
    earlier Ferr Grover exposed Khrushchev's vile lies at the XX Congress of the CPSU - see the detailed book "Anti-Stalin meanness"
  35. 0
    30 March 2020 15: 47
    That would be a rich Pinocchio tossed to the publisher so that the book on the counter would not cost as much as it would cost.
    1. Alf
      0
      30 March 2020 18: 42
      Quote: Ros 56
      That would be a rich Pinocchio tossed to the publisher so that the book on the counter would not cost as much as it would cost.

      Something tells me that this book will not appear on the shelves at all ...
      And in the place of an American, I would send this book with a personal notice to the One Who You Can't Call.
  36. +2
    30 March 2020 16: 32
    I understand that the Poles do not want to eat the bitter truth, but why they make us eat bitter lies, I don’t understand.
    And the questions I have with the builders of the Yeltsin Center are no longer moral and historical, but quite practical - down with the power of the Yeltsinists-humpbackists! They cannot and could not bring anything good to our country, they have a different homeland - "the promise of mankind."
  37. -2
    30 March 2020 19: 43
    And nevertheless, the Soviet Union presented lists of people who were shot! Which coincided with the Polish! The Bolshevik ki dealt with the Polish officers in the same way as they had dealt with the Russians before! And then they wondered why the Red Army men (freshly dispossessed peasants) did not want to defend this bitch "states", but in fact the Depot of the World Revolution! They threw an incredible amount of military equipment and 6 rifles and machine guns! Z000 surrendered in half a year! The rest have gone eastward!
  38. 0
    30 March 2020 20: 30
    Quote: sgapich
    Quote: Victor March 47
    Quote: Gene84
    Interestingly, what is the circulation of the book?
    Such a book should be issued in large circulation and its publication should be financed at the state level.

    And not only in wide sale. Having bought the right from the author and the publication, translate into a digit and set it for free download from the Internet.

    The circulation of the book was 1000 copies. I wrote to the project coordinator, waiting for an answer.

    Got a response.
    "cost 2000 rubles + postage"
    If anyone is interested, I can throw off the project coordinator in PM.
  39. +1
    30 March 2020 21: 47
    Something I don’t understand: we are in prison for a "Soviet war crime", and an American with long arms pulls document after document from under our seat and writes on their basis a second book about our innocence? What kind of circus is this, gentlemen?
  40. kig
    +2
    31 March 2020 05: 45
    MOSCOW, April 28, 2010 - RIA Novosti. For the first time, the Russian Archive posted on its website electronic samples of original documents about the Poles executed in Katyn, Andrei Artizov, head of the federal archival agency, told reporters.

    Anyone can watch and read. Absolutely any. I can even link, so as not to bother: http://portal.rusarchives.ru/publication/katyn/spisok.shtml. Another question is that this will not convince everyone - but there is nothing to argue with.
    1. -2
      31 March 2020 08: 44
      Thanks for the link for the followers of the sect "you fse vreeeeee". I'm afraid they won't even read.
  41. IC
    0
    31 March 2020 05: 58
    It is strange to refer as truth to a book by an author who does not have access to some new archival documents. The discussion can be fruitful only after the declassification of all Russian archives. But the logic of the state bureaucracy means that the remaining documents are clearly not in favor of the Stalinist version.
  42. 0
    31 March 2020 06: 17
    It is excellent that there are caring people who after a very long time achieve the truth!
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    1. +1
      31 March 2020 10: 57
      It seems that self-deception is the favorite pastime for many members of the forum. With such zeal, looking past officially published documents and the fact that Putin admitted this, can only be a person with a pronounced cognitive dissonance.