The US Marine Corps named the reasons for the possible abandonment of a large number of F-35

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The US Marine Corps may not soon receive the next F-35 aircraft. This is doubly surprising, given that it was the command of the American Marines that most zealously defended the need for the purchase of fighters in large numbers.

US Marine Corps Commandant General David Berger presented a report on plans for the development of the US Marine Corps over the next ten years. According to the general, the acquisition of the new F-35s is a big question. The U.S. Marine Chief also voiced reasons that could hinder the supply of aircraft.



First of all, the general is concerned about the lack of funding for the United States ILC. Budget constraints do not allow the maintenance of very expensive fighters and pay for their flights. At the same time, the commandant of the ILC is confident that the marines’s budget will not grow in the foreseeable future, and that the funds allocated by the Congress for rearmament will be spent on replacing obsolete equipment, including tanks and armored vehicles.

Interestingly, the United States ILC does not exclude the possibility of abandoning the famous Abrams tanks, which are now in service with the Marine Corps. The Commandant of the Corps, referring to the experience of military exercises conducted in 2018-2019, makes an interesting conclusion in his report:

Tanks are unsuitable for solving our highest priorities in the future.


Now the command of the United States ILC is more concerned about finding new opportunities, such as mobile rocket artillery, squadrons of heavy and medium helicopters, and towed artillery. At the same time, it is planned to reduce a number of units of the Marine Corps, including companies of the military police, pontoon-bridge companies, three infantry battalions and anti-aircraft units.

The scale of the reduction in the number of personnel of the U.S. ILC is estimated by General Berger himself in thousands of marines: in 2021 alone, the Corps will remain without 2000 troops, and in 2022-2023. will lose a few thousand more people. At the same time, personnel reduction is planned to be carried out against the background of modernization of the armament of the Corps units, which will reduce the number of troops in combat units.

Another reason why the Marine Corps can abandon a large number of F-35s is the inability to recruit a sufficient number of pilots with the proper skills to control the latest fighters. Although the US Marine Corps is an “army in the army,” which has its own aviation units and pilots, yet their number is more limited than in the US Air Force. As a result, the pilots will be significantly less than the number of aircraft that will be ordered by the Hull.


38th US Marine Corps Commandant General David Berger

For the American audience, the position of commandant Berger was surprising. Many Americans write that they cannot say anything about the identity of the new commandant of the ILC, but consider the measures proposed by him too radical for the Marine Corps.

Good, no F-35. How does he expect the marines to be protected? Isn't that a battle on Guadalcanal where the Marines realized that the Navy could not hold anti-aircraft defense cruisers. Didn’t we know more than 70 years ago that the marines needed their own weapons? This strategy has too many gaps to be feasible,

- one of the American users is indignant.

Other commentators attribute the possible refusal to supply dozens of F-35s to the US Marine Corps with the economic crisis that will plague American society amid the coronavirus pandemic and the collapse in oil prices. Problems in the economy will inevitably lead to a redistribution of funds and the US Congress will allocate less money for those military needs that seem to congressmen to be far from paramount.
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  1. +6
    30 March 2020 09: 11
    To control the F-35, you need not just pilots, but HIGH-CLASS pilots. This is a "piece goods" and the commandant can be understood. Tactically, the moment of sufficient reliability of "flying smartphones" is also avoided.
    Apparently there is no one to serve-% of the white population in the USA is steadily falling.
    1. +9
      30 March 2020 09: 34
      Yes, so that they do that ?! So, after all, in the world they can doubt the self-rationality of a mega-plane. Straight bitches chopped.
      If it is EXPENSIVE to the U.S. ILC with their budgets, then what about the rest of the countries that received this prodigy
      at the price of gold
      1. +2
        30 March 2020 17: 36
        he should be asked - he knows everything about the best airplane
      2. +1
        30 March 2020 20: 34
        Yes, if mattress makers do not want to buy for themselves, then how can other suckers "breed" to buy a miracle Yaroplan?
    2. +5
      30 March 2020 09: 40
      Budget constraints do not allow the maintenance of very expensive fighters and pay for their flights

      Striped half of the world sold these fu35, and this is pretty good sucks money from the army budgets of those countries. Since for amers it’s even expensive to talk about the others .. They will tear apart their navels, which is in our favor.
      1. +1
        30 March 2020 13: 56
        Stealth fighter - the decision is quite a compromise, and for the ILC is important just the maximum efficiency in terms of delivering bombs and missiles. In this regard, the F-35B is certainly much better than harriers, but not radically better. In addition, direct cleaning of the enemy’s air and air defense usually takes a small part of the operation time, and then years the bombs clean the centers of resistance or support ground operations, and here the stealth is not needed, and a small missile bomb load and expensive maintenance play against the F-35. In fact, this project paid off only in terms of mass production. But there are all the prerequisites that they will be purchased much less in the estimated time.


        It is also possible that the United States wanted to order more of them, and then in about fifteen to twenty years fill the secondary fighter market with them, as happened with the F-16, and buy promising new aircraft for ourselves.
        1. -1
          30 March 2020 14: 53
          Quote: engenius
          The ILC is important as the maximum efficiency in terms of the delivery of bombs and missiles. In this regard, the F-35B is certainly much better than harriers, but not radically better.

          but also do not forget that the ILC (it was they) needed the vertical. With the extinction of Harriers F-35V - the only VTOL aircraft. The ILC simply does not have an alternative (well, not Osprey with helicopters)
        2. +2
          31 March 2020 04: 59
          shots came from Yemen regularly as c75 shot down f16 and f15 and blah ... the last couple of years at the launches have already had different air defense but suppressing air defense is a very long story. to suppress that which is not aka in Iraq, of course, not too long, but after the suppression the planes were written off .. having written down 79 for all reasons. the number is not very popular with chatbots, but it is precisely the flow of the United States that has officially lost Iraqi aircraft.
    3. +4
      30 March 2020 09: 43
      What are you, African-Americans are super people, Hollywood proved it more than once, and among the knights participating in the Crusades and the Templars were representatives of the Negroid race. Some well-known scientists even advanced the theory that representatives of black skin are the only kind of homo sapiens of an evolutionarily occurred on planet Earth. Under them was created F-35. .
    4. +3
      30 March 2020 10: 04
      "To control the F-35 we need not just pilots, but HIGH-CLASS pilots" ///
      ----
      We need pilots who have completed a complete training course on this aircraft.
      Young pilots, rather than experienced aces, take possession of it better.
      The F-35 piloting itself is simpler and much more automated,
      than F-16 and F-15. In particular, the vertical take-off / landing F-35B fully
      are automated. Harrier needed skill, F-35B didn't.
      It is difficult for old pilots to switch from the helm to the joystick, from the walkie-talkie to
      silent flight with exchange of amination pictures. All the more difficult
      put on a virtual reality helmet and forget about the usual visual perception
      for long hours of flight.
      F-35 - for the young, "electronic-virtual" generation of pilots.
      1. +1
        30 March 2020 10: 39
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Young pilots, rather than experienced aces, take possession of it better.

        Ass - in American language - ass. And if the ass is cunning - she simply does not buy a plane named "little dristun", but sells suckers. Suckers do not have enough brains to understand that when they were sold something that the manufacturers themselves do not buy - there is something wrong laughing
      2. -4
        30 March 2020 11: 27
        Quote: voyaka uh
        silent flight with exchange of amination pictures. All the more difficult

        ========
        Yeah! especially "with the exchange amination pictures "..... It's not just difficult - it's ARCHITECTIVE !!! lol
        I’m not even simple, I can’t imagine the "exchange of AMINATION pictures" - but I can’t even imagine: What is "AMINATION" .... request
        1. +7
          30 March 2020 12: 32
          Whoever wanted to - he understood. Everybody understands the word "animation". And the mistake is forgivable.
          I turned my post to people, not clowns,
          but the latter - the majority, recently. sad
          1. +1
            30 March 2020 13: 35
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Everybody understands the word "animation". And the mistake is forgivable.

            ======
            Yeah! Especially in cases where the comp - himself notes misspelled words ???
            ---------
            Quote: voyaka uh
            I turned my post to people, not clowns,
            but the latter - the majority, recently.

            =======
            And I turned my post generally to people who have at least an elementary sense of humor, and not to limited individuals (usually the absence of such is considered a sign of "limited mind"), of which there has been a bit too much lately!
            PS "... Smile, gentlemen! Smile! For the biggest STUPIDITIES in the world are committed with the most "serious" expression!... "(x / f" That same Munchausen "). wink
      3. +6
        30 March 2020 13: 23
        Quote: voyaka uh
        F-35 - for the young, "electronic-virtual" generation of pilots.

        When the technique is too complicated, there are more minuses than pluses. And these minuses are much more pronounced than the pros. To begin with, in a military conflict, losses will be inevitable and, accordingly, the pilots will also die. And how with such a technique to replenish the ranks of pilots, and in war mode? As in the days of the Second World War it will not work. The second ... the cost of this device, which, with military losses, does not weigh heavily on the state’s economy, either for repair or for the purchase of new ones, to replenish the fleet, due to the loss of fighters. About the pilots, it’s understandable ... we need aces with more advanced brains. But what about the technology? There, too, a sledgehammer and a chisel, you can not do. And these obvious disadvantages overlap all the very controversial advantages.
        1. +6
          30 March 2020 13: 34
          "But what about the technique?" ////
          ----
          Wow! It’s very difficult to cook them. We have friends: dad was a technician in the 80s
          Phantoms, and my son is now an F-35 technician. So the guy laughs: "You are nothing at all
          you will understand, you will not understand where to start the service, nor how to approach ... "
          ---
          But these are not cons. This is a new approach to aviation, a new generation of technology and methods.
          her service. The old locksmith, too, will not be able to understand what is wrong with the machine tool
          CNC center.
          1. +5
            30 March 2020 13: 37
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Wow! It’s very difficult to cook them. We have friends: dad was a technician in the 80s
            Phantoms, and my son is now an F-35 technician. So the guy laughs: "You are nothing at all
            you will understand, you will not understand where to start the service, nor how to approach ... "

            And then they also need to cook. And not a piece. I repeat, given all these minuses and completely ambiguous advantages, the obvious conclusion is that the F-35 is not a real war plane from the word at all.
            1. +1
              30 March 2020 13: 44
              F-35 - the plane itself is a real war.
              One F-35 will be replaced by 2-3 F-16s according to their combat capabilities.
              But the plane is only for developed countries.
              Where capable - regularly! - Prepare shifts for pilots and teams of technicians.
              And the F-35 can only be used "to the maximum"
              information technology.
              1. +2
                30 March 2020 13: 56
                Quote: voyaka uh
                One F-35 will be replaced by 2-3 F-16s according to their combat capabilities.

                Strongly doubtful. Is that only survival will be slightly higher, given the stealth of this machine ...
              2. +5
                30 March 2020 13: 59
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Where capable - regularly! - Prepare shifts for pilots and teams of technicians.

                I will probably surprise you, but there are no such countries from the word at all, including the United States. Madjahideen bombing is not a priori war, but punitive missions.
                Quote: voyaka uh
                One F-35 will be replaced by 2-3 F-16s according to their combat capabilities.

                In real war conditions with a serious technological adversary, one F-16 will cost 5 F-35. Since this technique has been studied, it is relatively simple and can be stamped in thousands. And of course, the training of pilots, as well as the use of reservists, also gives the F-16 a feeble advantage over the F-35 in real-life conditions.
                1. -4
                  30 March 2020 15: 00
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  In real war conditions with a serious technological adversary, one F-16 will cost 5 F-35. Since this technique has been studied, it is relatively simple and can be stamped in thousands.

                  and piston La-5 can be stamped with millions, but they can not do anything with a modern jet machine
                  1. +4
                    30 March 2020 15: 57
                    Quote: Gregory_45
                    and piston La-5 can be stamped with millions, but they can not do anything with a modern jet machine

                    Do not distort. F-16 is quite modern and effective. In addition, hundreds of them are in conservation, unlike the F-35. Plus reservists who flew on them. F-35 doesn’t even have anything close to it and will not be in the next 20 years.
                    LA-5 he remembered.
                    1. -6
                      30 March 2020 17: 07
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Do not distort.

                      I'm not jerking. In fact, how does the La-5 differ from the MiG-17, for example? By and large, only speed. Likewise, the F-35 bypasses the 4th generation vehicles "only" in stealth and tactics of use. This should give him a general advantage.
                  2. +1
                    30 March 2020 17: 29
                    Quote: Gregory_45
                    and piston La-5 can be stamped with millions

                    Not. Will not work. The train left.
                    1. -5
                      30 March 2020 18: 51
                      Quote: Vasyan1971
                      Not. Will not work. The train left.

                      you wouldn’t have a price if you expressed your thoughts more clearly)
                      1. +2
                        30 March 2020 19: 45
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        you wouldn’t have a price,

                        And I'm not for sale. I do not need a price.
                        What is not clear? It is impossible to stamp "millions of piston La-5", if not puff. Physically. There is nothing and nowhere. Therefore your comparison will not work.
                      2. -5
                        30 March 2020 20: 14
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        millions of piston la-5

                        this is hyperbole, young man) So it is worth understanding. I am puzzled a lot that you take everything literally. For example, the expression "fooling around" do you understand?
                      3. +2
                        30 March 2020 20: 22
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        young man

                        Thanks for that. bully
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        it's a hyperbole

                        And with this to engineer Garin.
                        This is how I understand the expression "fooling around" in your performance, uncle.
                      4. -5
                        30 March 2020 21: 39
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        young man

                        Thanks for that.

                        at age? Moreover, rudeness is not to face. Not from a big mind)
                      5. +3
                        30 March 2020 22: 48
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        at age?

                        Shrewdly. Bravo! laughing
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        Moreover, rudeness is not to face.

                        Rudeness? When? Where? Proofs? In addition to the transition to the individual:
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        you wouldn’t have a price if you expressed your thoughts more clearly)

                        and the like:
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        Not from a big mind)

                        I do not watch. However, maybe this is what suits you? How do I know?)
              3. +3
                30 March 2020 14: 08
                Quote: voyaka uh
                F-35 - the plane itself is a real war.
                One F-35 will be replaced by 2-3 F-16s according to their combat capabilities.

                =======
                And for the price ??? Also 3 times?
                PS F-16D Block 52 - $ 34 million; F-35A - 83,4, F-35B -108,1, F-35C $ 93,3 million ..... Impressive ???
              4. +5
                30 March 2020 15: 42
                Well, it’s enough to tell tales already, they have grabbed yours, and now they scratch your turnips, and why such an expensive service. The F-16 is a machine, and the Fu-35 is a design kit, not brought to mind. That one, then another sore creeps out. And how will this device be better off in one departure with the F-16, why would it do twice as much or more?
                1. -7
                  30 March 2020 19: 03
                  Quote: Ros 56
                  The F-16 is a machine, and the Fu-35 is a design kit, not brought to mind.

                  you only somehow forget two things:
                  1. The F-16 has been produced and modernized for over 40 years, during which the plane was simply licked.
                  2. F-35 is an order of magnitude more complex machine, which crashed though a lot and even participated in the database, but still quite new and not very common.

                  Do you want the plane to go out of the oven, ready for use? This does not happen. Like different things - write a flyer, and a three-volume novel.

                  By the way, before becoming what he became, the F-16 also suffered from many ailments, and at the first stages both pilots and technicians spat on it. Only then the press didn’t cover it so widely, and therefore this fact is known in narrow circles
                  1. +2
                    31 March 2020 07: 47
                    I perfectly understand what a new aircraft is. So do not hell with nightingale and tales tell how good he is this F-35. Something about any of his military exploits is not heard, except that he dropped a couple of bombs on unarmed Papuans.
                    1. -3
                      31 March 2020 14: 49
                      Quote: Ros 56
                      I understand what a new aircraft is.

                      then I do not understand your comments

                      Quote: Ros 56
                      So don’t fuck horseradish with nightingale and tell tales how good this F-35 is

                      and you take it more calmly. Moreover, if you listen to experts (I emphasize this word), then they talk about only one thing: about the potential advantages of the aircraft. And they explain what is better (otherwise they would look stupid without arguing their statements, right? The statements of the kindergarten in the style of “I said better!” Would not cause anything but a condescending smile)
                      By the way, this is how (describing the advantages of the apparatus) they do in all countries of the world, and Russia is no exception.

                      As for advertising ... then it is advertising. Do not praise - do not sell. By the way, it would not hurt our managers from Rosoboronexport to learn from their Western colleagues in this (to present the goods nicely). Maybe they wouldn’t have failed so many contracts
                    2. -3
                      31 March 2020 14: 55
                      Quote: Ros 56
                      Something about any of his military exploits is not heard, except that he dropped a couple of bombs on unarmed Papuans.

                      as for the combat merit of the apparatus. Is it to blame? By the way, the Russian Su-27 also lit up in just one conflict, shooting down several MiG-29s. Although no one in the world doubts that this is a wonderful fighter. Some types of aircraft did not participate in battles at all, but went down in history. ICBMs, thank God, fly only on landfills. Does this mean that they are insignificant as a technique? I think the answer is very clear to you.
                      And again - the plane is very new, what are you waiting for? So that he has hammered China into the Stone Age?
            2. -1
              30 March 2020 15: 02
              Quote: NEXUS
              F-35 is not a real war plane from the word at all.

              Do you know what it will be, the future war ??? In the Middle Ages they would have burned at the stake for some stories about what will happen in the First World War. About that technique and methods of warfare. In World War I they could not imagine what and how would be applied in World War II. At the time of WWII, they did not imagine what would happen in Iraq.

              Generals always prepare for last war
              1. +2
                30 March 2020 16: 03
                Quote: Gregory_45
                Generals always prepare for last war

                She will be with the weapons of previous generations. When all F-35s are knocked out, the pilots will be transferred to F-16s, 18,15 ... and they will be knocked out very quickly. And in light of the fact that there will be nothing and no one to replenish either the F-35 fleet or the pilots’s fleet, they will recall machines that have long been forgotten, such as for example the Phantom.
                Quote: Gregory_45
                At the time of WWII, they did not imagine what would happen in Iraq.

                And what was there? War? Seriously? And for me there was a beating of infants with subsequent punitive missions. The Iraqi company was not a war in the sense that is embedded in this concept. The US has never fought with a technically advanced adversary.
                1. -4
                  30 March 2020 16: 34
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  She will be

                  such as you describe only if it happens tomorrow or next week. But not the fact that this, if it happens in 10-15-20 years. A lot can change during this time. And in armament, and, most importantly, in the method of warfare and applied technologies

                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Quote: Gregory_45
                  At the time of WWII, they did not imagine what would happen in Iraq.

                  What was there? War?

                  exactly. The first is network-centric if you have not noticed. In which the coalition, using this same network centric, comparatively quickly took one of the strongest armies of the BV, suffering rather modest losses
                  1. +2
                    30 March 2020 16: 38
                    Quote: Gregory_45
                    The first is network-centric if you have not noticed.

                    Is bribery of the highest military echelon your network centric? Yes, and the weapons of Iraq were from the time of King Peas. And is this a technically advanced adversary? Do you seriously believe in this nonsense?
                    1. -4
                      30 March 2020 16: 58
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Is bribery of the highest military echelon your network centric?

                      what is network-centric warfare, you can find on the Internet. Thank goodness good articles are enough, and reprinting them here is not worth it.

                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Top Military Bribery

                      then there would be no war at all. With the right bribe) And if it was (if it was) wrong - then what is it about?

                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Yes, and the armament of Iraq was the time of King Pea

                      many copies have been broken on this subject, and I’ll prove 1500 times that Hussein’s army was quite combat-ready, I won’t begin to prove it. For, firstly, this is not a topic of debate, and secondly, a network to help you, which details the composition of the Iraqi Armed Forces, equipment and weapons, organizational staff, leadership, dotrina, strategy. The very course of the war by day and hour.
    5. +3
      30 March 2020 12: 27
      Quote: knn54
      Apparently there’s no one to serve

      You're not right. To enroll in their army, you need to register, then stand in line. The procedure takes about six months. There are more than anyone who wants to serve in the US Arm. Recruiters choose from the list of candidates.
  2. 0
    30 March 2020 09: 13
    In the photo, the general is some kind of crumpled, accursed crisis! )))
    1. -1
      30 March 2020 10: 03
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      In the photo, the general is some kind of crumpled, accursed crisis! )))

      Maybe already that? Met with the virus? request
    2. -4
      30 March 2020 11: 32
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      In the photo, the general is some kind of crumpled, accursed crisis! )))

      =========
      But tin cans, trinkets and plaques on the bust how many hung on !!!
      1. +2
        30 March 2020 12: 47
        Quote: venik
        But tin cans, trinkets and plaques on the bust how many hung on !!!

        So this is not what Shoigu is for you, and all the trinkets in his case. He went all the posts from the platoon commander to the commandant of the MP. Three wars have a peasant behind him. How much do you think he should have rows of award levels ....?
  3. +3
    30 March 2020 09: 13
    First of all, the general is concerned about the lack of funding for the United States ILC

    They do not allow the world to rob and problems with money begin, which can still be said.
  4. +2
    30 March 2020 09: 16
    the inability to recruit a sufficient number of pilots with the proper skills to control the latest fighters.

    Will they refuse because he is "too good"?
    Fe-35 is not needed, it turns out. And for what reason - not significantly.
  5. +6
    30 March 2020 09: 30
    F 35 have already fulfilled their main function - they allowed to pump out astronomical funds from the budget, and legally get them into private accounts. This rocking chair is not suitable for war, but the situation in the world has changed. We need really effective aircraft. Hehe ...
    The situation in the US Army, as far as you can imagine, is quite amusing. The "ordinary" army practically does not fight. Her function now is to make sure there is a real fight back and call the Marines. That is, the marines are no longer a branch of the army, but all the troops. And it seems that those who give money for this fun have begun to realize this.
    Apparently, the steps being taken are an attempt to return the marines to the framework of the armed forces. How much this will turn out, and how much the US Army is ready to move from receiving salaries for playing soldier games to real military service ... well, let’s see. It will be interesting.
  6. +4
    30 March 2020 09: 30
    The limited budget does not allow the maintenance of very expensive fighters and pay for their flights.

    Hundreds of F-35s have been riveted, and now they are "pushing" all their allies. They have a "bigger" budget than the US. Especially in Poland, which is sitting on EU subsidies.
  7. +3
    30 March 2020 09: 42
    Budget constraints do not allow the maintenance of very expensive fighters and pay for their flights
    This is the number. With the largest military budget in the world, there is not enough money. laughing What, the 35th flew off. And how much noise there was. lol
    1. -2
      30 March 2020 15: 08
      Quote: orionvitt
      This is the number. With the largest military budget in the world

      Only from all this astronomical budget, the ILC has traditionally received and is receiving very scarce funds (in percentage terms). Only the National Guard has even less. So it’s worth noting judging by the entire budget of the US Military Department, but by the budget of the KPM.
      1. +3
        30 March 2020 16: 28
        Quote: Gregory_45
        Of all this astronomical budget, the ILC has traditionally received and is receiving very scarce funds (in percentage terms)

        Do I feel sorry for them? Or maybe cry about this? How they "ransack" the money inside, I don't give a damn. And the fact that the United States has the largest military budget in the world (more than all others combined), no one will deny.
        1. -2
          30 March 2020 17: 02
          Quote: orionvitt
          Should I pity them?

          not worth it) The point is that it is the ILC that will reduce the procurement program, because of its not very rich budget (compared to the Air Force, for example). That is the main reason. Is anything said about the Air Force? Not a word. Therefore, you should not generalize and rejoice that
          Quote: orionvitt
          35th flew off

          so far prematurely
      2. +2
        30 March 2020 19: 14
        Quote: Gregory_45
        Only from all this astronomical budget, the ILC has traditionally received and is receiving very scarce funds (in percentage terms).

        Yeah ... I was once surprised by an article in the ZVO about expeditionary brigades of the Marine Corps - when it suddenly turned out that the foremost and heavily armed detachment of American imperialism in fact armed with old stuff, which the army and the air force have abandoned or are abandoning. Tanks M60, armored personnel carriers of the times of Vietnam, "Cobras" and "Huey" from the same place, towed artillery, 81-mm mortars.
        The Marines wanted, pomnitsa, "Apache", tested it from the deck, everything was fine with them - but they had to wrap their lip back: no money.
  8. +3
    30 March 2020 10: 02
    And where are the chants that, with such news about the Russian Aerospace Forces, immediately write that they betrayed us ... ???
    Let's scream that the coolest and most democratic country has screwed up and cannot build its thousands of super planes !! Where are you, our dear commentators?
  9. +2
    30 March 2020 10: 22
    I have long said: the United States is trite enough money. With their eternal cuts, they all ... fell laughing
    And with the ILC, it has long been clear - 50% of the budget is cut by the fleet, 30% - by the Air Force, the rest in half - the army and the ILC. Army is more important wink And the KMP has not only the abandonment of the F-35, but also a reduction in the number of brigades, the number of airborne assault forces, tanks and tepe. Think why
  10. +2
    30 March 2020 10: 43
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The F-35 piloting itself is simpler and much more automated,
    than F-16 and F-15.

    All US pilots are trained on the old F-5 Tiger (training variation of the T-38 Talon). It has a Pen on it. A lot of pilots after training on the T-38 master the F-16 - it has a joystick. F-15 and f-18 have the same handle. At the same time, a bunch of pilots flew on both. So the handle / joystick is not a problem. By communication, all pilots learn to operate in radio silence mode and there is no difference that transmitting a picture or a compressed voice packet is all the same radiation that can be received by the enemy electronic warfare. The most important crap is the helmet (forgive the headset) with VR - this seems to add complexity ... But how do our pilots with the helmet-integrated system fly? Specialists - can you tell? Your impressions?
    1. 0
      30 March 2020 10: 48
      About the helm is just a pearl hi
      1. 0
        30 March 2020 10: 54
        Moreover, the F-16 did since 1976;)))
        1. 0
          30 March 2020 11: 10
          Moreover, on the I-16 "RUS")))
    2. 0
      31 March 2020 08: 34
      Lol We have this (to completely abandon the ILS) so far only dreaming.
      Unfortunately.
  11. +2
    30 March 2020 10: 53
    general worries about inadequate funding of the United States ILC
    So all the generals of the various branches of the American army are crying exactly about this - the lack of funding. Therefore, the Marines are not the only ones who "badly" need it. Soon they will begin to blackmail - either money in advance, or we refuse to fight. When a lot is given, and the American military budget is sky-high, you want even more. And is it a shortage of pilots?
  12. +2
    30 March 2020 11: 27
    In America, generals just do not say that, they have their own political connections and commercial support, which is why they lobby the interests of those who are more profitable for their pocket and career.
  13. 0
    30 March 2020 11: 28
    In connection with the transition to the policy of American authorship, the colonial troops represented by the ILC are not needed. Plus economic depression due to coronavirus.
  14. 0
    30 March 2020 11: 58
    But it seems to me that this person, similar to an accountant, with a German surname and Polish appearance (ancestors from the Slavic Slavs and East Germans?) Thinks correctly, in the direction necessary for the US Commission.
    To cut full-time the number of ILCs, including due to the chronic lack of staff - they will not put up with 70% of the content there.
    Why are KMP now MBTs designed to fight, first of all, with their own similar tanks? The U.S. KMP has other means of knocking out tanks. There is no tank danger now. The train of thought of the U.S. ILCC thinks correctly. They will not have to deal with armored mechanized hordes of the Russian Federation. And with the Chinese too - you can’t throw the armor on the islands. And what you throw is knocked out by aviation, helicopters, artillery, infantry ATGMs.
    Penguin35 causes distrust and doubts about its usefulness at the very top - a detective. The ILC clearly prefers to continue to use the good old Harriers and Superhornets than bother with the whole range of problems of the penguin35 as an airplane and the organization of putting it into operation; Yes, and as the only, all-replacing and mass.
    The U.S. ILC must replace almost the entire fleet of human-carrying combat armored vehicles - everything is worn out and outdated there. Resources must be pumped there.
    The continuous transition to "rocket artillery" is dubious, but it has its own well-grounded arguments. Especially for the ILC.
    Important: the dude is clearly oriented, and such an opinion is clearly winning in the highest military and military-political circles of the United States that it is necessary to restrain China's "hegemonic aspirations". (What is a great joy for the Russian Federation - attention is distracting.)
  15. +2
    30 March 2020 13: 00
    Interestingly, what is his silver kruglyash over an eagle on a tunic? And so full of chest rewards ...
    And so I was taught for three years: we deliver a nuclear strike to TR, and then the division quickly passes this place and develops the offensive. Will the Fu-35 be able to withstand the blast wave. EMR and radiation? This is a question of questions. Most likely you will get a flightless brick ...
    1. +3
      30 March 2020 13: 51

      Swimmer Diver
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Berger
      https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Uniform_Service_Diver_Insignia_(United_States)
      below with wings - sign of a paratrooper
      all the steps went, it seems
  16. -1
    30 March 2020 14: 24
    Expensive device. Yes, and problematic. That's the whole ... "problem"
  17. 0
    30 March 2020 14: 36
    Or maybe everything is much simpler? The virus in the army is the reason for everything.
  18. +1
    30 March 2020 17: 45
    Quote: Avior

    Swimmer Diver
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_H._Berger
    https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Uniform_Service_Diver_Insignia_(United_States)
    below with wings - sign of a paratrooper
    all the steps went, it seems

    Thank. He passed Korea, Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan.

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