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Stoner 63: development. Chain Saw and RobArm M96 Expeditionary Rifle

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The prototype of the LWAMG machine gun, printed on a 3D printer. Photo: The Firearm Blog


For the first time, they spoke about a new machine gun relatively recently. 09.10.2017/2017/7,62 The Firearm Blog published a note stating that Knight's Armament (KAC) presented at AUSA XNUMX a prototype of a new XNUMX NATO machine gun. It was reported that the new product was developed based on previous models of the company (Stoner LMG and LAMG), so it borrowed many technical solutions from them. It was also reported that, despite the increased dimensions of the new product, there is a general external resemblance to previous models. In the note they were called "younger cousins."

The main changes affected the dimensions of the bolt box, barrel and belt feed unit, which were modified under the NATO 7,62 × 51 cartridge. The larger machine gun model has become heavier. It was stated that the new machine gun will weigh about 5,7 kg (12.5 lbs), which is still significantly less compared to even the upgraded single machine gun FN M240L. (The following is a table for comparing weight and dimensions.)

Knight's Armament LW-AMG


According to KAC representatives, at the time the exhibition opened, the official name had not yet been approved for the new machine gun model. The term "Medium Assault Machine Gun" was used as the working name. However, in the end, the product received the designation LWAMG (LightWeight Assault Machine Gun) - a lightweight assault machine gun.

An important point: at AUSA 2017, a mass-scale layout printed on a 3D printer made of aluminum (3D printed sintered aluminum) was demonstrated. This publication was announced by an employee of the company Trey Knight. He added that real samples are "at a very early stage of development." But work will continue, as the company currently feels an increase in demand for machine guns for 7,62 mm cartridges. According to him, over time, they will gradually displace systems for 5,56 mm ammunition.


LWAMG prototype (7,62) next to LAMG (5,56). Photo (here and below): Soldier Systems Daily





The author is not known for certain the exact date of the announcement of the LWAMG machine gun chambered for 7,62 mm. However, it can be confidently stated that the current model was ready no earlier than 2018. Agree that for several months it is almost impossible to bring the sample from a very early stage of development to pre-production. Be that as it may, a new machine gun was produced, and his photos with the main performance characteristics were added to the manufacturer's website.


The modern look of the LWAMG serial machine gun. Photo: Knight's Armament

The following is a brief comparison table with Knight's Armament machine guns and the FN M240 family.


At the request of the customer, the company Knight's Armament is ready to produce versions of machine guns LWAMG chambered for 6.5 × 55 (.260 Remington) and 6.5mm Creedmoor.

Knight's Armament ChainSAW


ChainSAW (chain saw) - a strange experimental model, built on the basis of the Stoner 96 system. Consists of a machine gun with tape power and a grenade launcher. The first prototype of the “chainsaw” was presented at the SHOT Show in 2009.

Stoner 63: development. Chain Saw and RobArm M96 Expeditionary Rifle
ChainSAW with 200 round box, PBS and Spike's Tactical Havoc Grenade Launcher for 37 mm grenades

KAC ChainSAW only involves shooting from the hip. This is evidenced by the massive handles mounted above the barrel and instead of the stock, as well as a long belt that should be thrown over your shoulder. Bipods, as you see, are absent. It is noteworthy that the machine gun trigger is located in the back of the receiver: where the butt is usually attached.

The author is completely incomprehensible why so many Picatinny rails have been installed on the “chainsaw”. Of course, it is possible to establish a collimator sight, but there will be no benefit from it. LCU or tactical flashlight? It is unlikely that anyone would think of shooting this machingan at night, striding to its full height. Unless for mounting an action camera. But why? Shooting shooting results?


Pay attention to how inconveniently the trigger of the grenade launcher is located. Photo: popgun.ru


Pay attention to the location of the trigger


The author believes that ChainSAW is not suitable for local conflicts, let alone for military operations in the city. But with such a machingan, you can wet the monsters in a reckless shooter like "Serious Sam". By the way, the developers of at least two computer games did not lose sight of ChainSAW:

Brink (2011)

The game was called "Chinzor"

Call of Duty: Ghosts (2013)

The game is called "The Ghost Killer"

Rifle Robinson Armament M96



Actor Sammy The Dwarf at the Robinson Armament booth. SHOT Show 2020. Source: Robinson M96 FB Page

In 1996 (Salt Lake City, Utah, USA) Robinson Armament was registered. The abbreviation RobArm is often used. The company was small, and even as of 2009 only 15 people were working in it. The founder was Alex Robinson. He studied business law at the University of Utah, graduating in 1989.

In 1999, Robinson Armament offered the market a semi-automatic rifle chambered for 5.56x45 mm NATO ammunition (kits for adapting to Soviet ammunition 7,62 × 39 and 5,45 × 39 were produced. There was also the possibility of choosing the barrel length. Along with changing cartridges, the bolt needed to be replaced , the trunk, the store and the receiver shaft of the store.) Having studied weapon, many expressed the opinion that the solutions implemented in the Stoner 63 weapon complex were borrowed in the Robinson Armament rifle. Some believed that the rifle was a remake or even plagiarism of the Stoner system. Let's try to figure it out together.

An application was filed on January 29, 1997, and on May 4, 1999, patent No. 5900577 for "Modular, multi-caliber weapon system" was received. In the column “inventor” the founder Alex Robinson and Darin G. Nebeker are indicated.


Robinson's modular, multi-caliber weapon system. Pay attention to the location of the store in the style of "Brena". Source: Patent No. 5900577 of 1999

In the document, the inventors refer to Eugene Stoner's patents: 2681718 (for 1954), 3097982 (1963) and 3198076 (1965) and point out the differences between his and his invention. Unlike the Stoner 63 system, which exclusively uses NATO standard 5,56 cartridges, the Robinson system allows the use of not only NATO 5,56 ammunition, but also Soviet 7,62 × 39 and 5,45 × 39 cartridges. In the future, it is possible to develop modifications for pistol cartridges .45 ACP, 9 × 19 Parabellum and .40 S&W, as well as hunting cartridges in the range from 5,56 × 45 (.223 Remington) to 7,62 × 67 (.300 Win Mag) ...

This property reminded the author of the Russian Cheetah submachine gun, which was developed on the basis of the AKS-74U. Thanks to a set of interchangeable bolts and return mechanisms, the Cheetah had the ability to use about 15 (fifteen!) Types of pistol cartridges of 9 mm caliber of different power.

On "IN" article about the Cheetah software was published in 2014 year.


Robinson's modular multi-caliber weapon system. The store is located under the shutter box.


Robinson's patent flip-flop box. Same shape, same six attachment points as Stoner's

Another difference stems from the previous one. The Robinson system provides for the use of both NATO standard and Soviet-style magazines, as well as cartridge belts for the mentioned cartridges. Achieved by replacing the shutter and magazine or tape feed mechanism.


Another difference lies in the reciprocating spring, which is located around the rod of the gas piston. For clarity, the inventor gives as an example similar springs on a Beretta 70 pistol and on a SIG SG 550 rifle. In the Robinson system, depending on the selected ammunition, it is possible to change gas pistons, return springs, gas tubes and other details corresponding to the cartridges. In this case, the same bolt box is used.


A clear comparison of the shutters of the two systems. On the left is the Stoner 63 shutter, on the right is the Robinson M96. Pay attention to the presence of a combat spring in the M96


Comparison of shutters from a different angle. On the left is the Stoner 63 shutter, on the right is the Robinson M96. The Stoner 63 has a shark fin protrusion

In addition, the Robinson system is capable of firing, including with a closed shutter. Regardless of whether tape or store food is used.

For the US civilian arms market, this is a very important point, since the United States prohibits the free sale of weapons firing from an open bolt. The reason is that it can be converted too easily from a semi-auto weapon to a full-auto weapon.


Image of shutter Robinson M96 from the patent. Please note: “Shark fin” and video are missing

In addition, the platoon handle in the Robinson system is characterized in that its use is provided for both left-handed and right-handed (ambidextral). Accordingly, the platoon mechanism itself is different from that in the Stoner system.

Other differences are also listed in the patent, but I think it’s enough of the ones indicated above. I note curious facts related to patent rights and trademarks.

- as you already know, the authors of this invention are Alex Robinson, and Darin Nebecker;
- produces weapons company Robinson Armament Co (registration year 1996) from the city of Salt Lake City. Founder - Alex Robinson;
- The patent holder is the company ZDF Import Export (1994), also from the city of Salt Lake City. The contact person for ZDF is Alex Robinson;
- The owner of the four trademarks Robinson Armament uses is RMDI, LLC (2004), also from Salt Lake City. The contact person for RMDI is the same Alex Robinson.

Moreover, the two companies have legal addresses that match completely.

Trademarks owned by Alex Robinson: XCR, EXPEDITIONARY, and M96 EXPEDITIONARY.

He also owns the Robinson Armament logo with the motto “Aut pax aut bellum” (“Either peace or war”).

However, let us return to the fact that in 1999 Robinson Armament almost immediately after obtaining a patent offered the market a semi-automatic rifle for 5.56x45 mm NATO cartridges. The full name of the product is “M96 Expeditionary Rifle”, which literally sounds like “Expeditionary Rifle”.

The encyclopedia says that expeditionary forces are part of the armed forces of one state, deployed to the territory of another state with the aim of conducting military operations. According to the author, these include some formations of the U.S. ILC, the Foreign Legion, as well as the limited contingent of Soviet troops in Afghanistan and others. For civilian weapons, the term “expeditionary rifle” is nothing more than an advertising move.


Rifle Robinson Armament M96 Expeditionary Rifle of the first years of release. Includes a security lock that looks like a cable with a bicycle lock. Photo: AR15.com


Rifle Robinson Armament M96 Expeditionary Rifle, right view. A careful study shows that the bolt box is slightly different. Photo (here and below): AR15.com


There are 6 attachment points on the bolt box, as well as on the Stoner. However, in the first, the extreme pair ends above the store, and in RobArm M96 - above the middle of the forearm


The RobArm M96 has a magazine latch on the receiver shaft. On the Stoner 63, it’s located behind the store, like AKM


Please note: the RobArm M96 does not have an ejector window blind. And on the upgraded Stoner 63A, a curtain is installed


Above the barrel, a gas regulator screw is inserted into the hole of the gas chamber. The gas outlet is made differently than on the Stoner 63


On the RobArm M96, a 2-position flag-type fuse. And on the Stoner 63A he was moved in front of the trigger guard


The receiver shaft on the RobArm M96 is the main external difference from the Stoner 63. Pay attention to the cocking handle: it is also different


Node attachment assembly on the Robinson Armament M96. Reminds Stoner 63, M16, AR-18, but there are differences. Photo: Aftermath Gun Club

The Robinson M96 is built in a modular way, equipped with a quick-detachable barrel and looks like a copy of the Stoner 63. However, in terms of parts, the RobArm M96 is so different that only individual small parts are interchangeable between it and the Stoner 63. The disassembly order is also slightly different from the Stoner 63. At RobArm M96, the forend (lower part) is first separated.

Robinson Armament produced the M96 Expeditionary Rifle rifle between 1999 and 2005. Some sources indicate 2011. Moreover, at some point, the rifle suddenly disappeared from free sale. Moreover, the manufacturer, without explanation, stopped supporting its product. On various forums, there are outraged comments from the owners of RobArm M96. Their weapons do not work, but spare parts are nowhere to be found. Owners with great difficulty find used components from private sellers from Stoner 63 from private sellers and thus replace the striker or some other trifle with their M96. True, there are others who even manage to upgrade their M96 rifles.


Robinson Armament M96 with Picatinny Rail

The author does not know the total number of manufactured products. On the forum AR15, one of the participants wrote that no more than 5 thousand units. Of which a batch of 2,5 thousand was produced in 1999, and then in 2003 another 2,5 thousand. RobArm M96 owners were not satisfied with the lack of maintenance and spare parts. Therefore, the manufacturer was inundated with complaints and requests to take action. On one of the forums, one of the owners wrote the following:

- For some reason, the manufacturer behaves as if he had never made the M96.

Some even began to sign online petitions. One of them was published in 2017-2018. But in two years, a rather modest number of signatures was collected.


One of the electronic petitions for the RobArm M96 rifle. Below is the number of signatures for 2 years

We all already know that certain rights and equipment for the production of Stoner 63 belong to Knight's Armament. Perhaps for this reason, Robinson Armament stopped the production and sale of the M96 expeditionary rifle. However, at the SHOT Show 2020 (Jan. 21-24, 2020) at the Robinson Armament booth, a civilian M96 rifle and the same rifle were displayed for demonstration, but in a configuration with the top location of the store in the Bren style. We will discuss it below.


LegendaryGhost (with M96) and RifleNumber13 (with M96 a la Bren). SHOT Show 2020. Source: Robinson M96 FB Page

Company representatives said that RobArm decided to put the M96 complex on sale again. They explained that about 200 slide boxes and many other details are stored in the warehouse, so the process will not take so much time. On the manufacturer’s website, the product page has recently been restored; there is already the opportunity to place a pre-order. So those wishing to purchase a rare sample are in anticipation.

Judging by the manufacturer's statements, we are not talking about resuming production. They have some parts in stock. Missing parts will be sought and procured externally. That is, a limited lot will be offered to the market, collected from residues from around the world. At the same time, Robinson Armaments declares its desire to launch the M96 service program, which is to provide spare parts for existing M96.


Screenshot of the manufacturer’s website page. Pay attention to the words Rifle and Carbine

Perhaps a rifle / carbine appears on the product page, because the manufacturer offers a choice of barrels of the following lengths: 14.7, 16, 18.6 and 20 inches.

Curious fact
While work was underway on the article, 11.03.2020/96/200 the patent for M63 expired. This invention has become publicly available and has already moved into the category of "Technique". Admonishing and drawing up the same drawings from a patent for another person is a waste of time. It can only be changed, new features added and registered as an analogue. By the way, sometimes there are descriptions of the invention and XNUMX pages each. Most likely, this is how (or almost so) Alex Robinson did in his time, patenting an invention similar to Stoner XNUMX.

The author thanks Olga Chichinova, chief specialist of the Department of Inventions of AGEPI.

To be continued ...

Machine gun LW-AMG from Knight's Armament. Demonstration of quick barrel extraction



Shooting from a ChainSAW machine gun (chain saw). Manufacturer Knight's Armament.



The Robinson Armament M96 rifle, the company's booth at the SHOT Show 2020. They called it the "reproduction" of the Stoner 63.
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Articles from this series:
Stoner 63: Eugene Stoner's modular weapon system
Stoner 63: Survival Carabiner and Bullpup Rifle
Stoner 63: Shutter box. Baptism of Fire in Vietnam
Stoner 63. Service at SEAL. Auction prices
Stoner 63: development. Stoner 86 and Stoner 96
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore April 2 2020 18: 07 New
    -1
    No ! This is not Jim Beam! That is, PKK or RMB!
    1. Mister X
      April 2 2020 18: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: Theodore
      No ! This is not Jim Beam! That is, PKK or RMB!

      So let’s drink so that our capabilities coincide with our desires!
      1. Professor
        Professor April 2 2020 19: 13 New
        +3
        Quote: Mister X
        Quote: Theodore
        No ! This is not Jim Beam! That is, PKK or RMB!

        So let’s drink so that our capabilities coincide with our desires!

        Good article. good I once also wrote about this papelats, but I am far from you.
        1. Mister X
          April 2 2020 19: 29 New
          +5
          Quote: Professor
          Good article.

          Greetings categorically!
          Thank you!
          Quote: Professor
          I once wrote about this papelats too

          I remember what I wrote. I tracked the source from where you downloaded the pictures for my article wink
          Quote: Professor
          but I am far from you.

          It is unlikely. But I write 500 articles before retirement ...
          By the way, I read about Berliet-Lorraine, but did not notice that this is your article
      2. Cowbra
        Cowbra April 2 2020 19: 38 New
        +3
        ... and for the possibility of our gunsmiths ...

        I liked it) I would unscrew the heads)))
        1. Mister X
          April 2 2020 19: 42 New
          +7
          Quote: Cowbra
          I liked it) I would unscrew the heads)))

          Welding quality of course wee ...
          Tea is not the 42nd year in the yard.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra April 2 2020 19: 45 New
            0
            But what, nafig, even high-quality ?! Dress her with a crawl over the line ... One hundred meters, any such welding can do it all, soldier, take off your feet, crawl forward
          2. Cowbra
            Cowbra April 2 2020 19: 58 New
            0
            Listen, and even so - a dope question ... What kind of turbidity is it, a flat screwdriver bolted to the floor with a bolt? Do not say that the store’s release, it’s neighing for me and it already hurts
            1. Mister X
              April 2 2020 20: 41 New
              +5
              Quote: Cowbra
              What kind of turbidity is it, a flat screwdriver bolted to the floor with a bolt?

              I kind of pointed out in the article.
              Or I did not understand the question?
              1. Cowbra
                Cowbra April 2 2020 20: 47 New
                +1
                I agree, you indicated that I was just "laughing so hard" that I will continue. This weapon - not to make a serious face on the floor above it, right? Hey, ale, you won't make it to the fight, I will pull you on the "17" -shka like a wolf gallop, sometimes dropping it, and there are swamps there ... You won't be able to drive a knife into this bolt with an effort. The crust will be baked so that it will be easier to cut a new line under the plane!
                And by the way, I'm not joking at all - it’s easy like that
                1. Mister X
                  April 2 2020 20: 50 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Cowbra
                  This weapon is not to make a serious face on the floor above it, right?

                  However, the rifle has its own enthusiasts.
                  Even petitions against the manufacturer were signed.
                  1. Cowbra
                    Cowbra April 2 2020 21: 01 New
                    0
                    Okay, for the citizen. but initially something action ?! But the action from her in any way, I choose the words ...
                    1. Mister X
                      April 2 2020 21: 38 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Cowbra
                      Okay, for the citizen. but initially something action ?!

                      First released a civilian version. Semiautomatic device.
                      1. Cowbra
                        Cowbra April 2 2020 21: 40 New
                        0
                        Then I understood a little, this is an eternal cant
                      2. Mister X
                        April 2 2020 23: 19 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Cowbra
                        Then I understood a little, this is an eternal cant

                        Sometimes ...
  • ares1988
    ares1988 April 2 2020 18: 23 New
    +1
    ChainSaw, as I understand it, is aimed at the civilian market. 37mm grenade launcher is another confirmation of this.
    1. Mister X
      April 2 2020 18: 44 New
      +6
      Quote: ares1988
      ChainSaw, as I understand it, is aimed at the civilian market. 37mm grenade launcher is another confirmation of this.

      hi Why civilian grenade launchers?
      1. ares1988
        ares1988 April 2 2020 19: 32 New
        0
        At first I thought that KAC turned out to be an ideal tool for those who like to shoot zombies in the post-apocalypse (and there are a lot of preppers and survivors in the USA), but then I remembered that they haven’t been selling new machines to private owners since the 86th year. So - only to organizations for recreational shooting. And about the grenade launcher: they can officially shoot for $ even from a grenade launcher, even from a tank, even from a howitzer. Naturally, under the supervision of specially trained people, and at very undemocratic prices)
        1. Mister X
          April 2 2020 19: 50 New
          +5
          Quote: ares1988
          for $ they can officially shoot at least from a grenade launcher, even from a tank, even from a howitzer

          Yes, entertaining shooting is developed at them.
          A couple of years ago he wrote about a Wildey pistol under powerful cartridges, Wh and 45 Winchester Magnum.
          Barrel length can reach 35 cm (optional).
          Use for entertaining shooting and hunting.

          Wildey pistol in CARBINE configuration
      2. bk0010
        bk0010 April 2 2020 21: 08 New
        +5
        Quote: Mister X
        hi Why civilian grenade launchers?

        Weird question! For example, I wouldn’t refuse a hunting ATGM, let it be ...
        1. Mister X
          April 2 2020 21: 36 New
          +4
          Quote: bk0010
          For example, I wouldn’t refuse a hunting ATGM, let it be ...

          Start dreaming small.
          In our country, civilians got the legal right to buy rifled weapons.
          True, semi-automatic.
          1. bk0010
            bk0010 April 2 2020 22: 41 New
            +2
            I already have a small (both smooth-bore and rifled). Now you can dream about the average. And there, you look, and the collection will grow to Lopatov’s calibers.
            1. Mister X
              April 2 2020 23: 23 New
              +3
              Quote: bk0010
              Now you can dream about the average.

              Try to contact this person.
              He will definitely get it wink
      3. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 2 2020 22: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Mister X
        Why civilian grenade launchers?

        To try.
        In addition, as far as I remember, a 37 mm caliber is made non-flying. Yes, and signaling may be in demand.
        1. Mister X
          April 2 2020 23: 26 New
          +4
          hi Long time no see!
          Quote: Spade
          In addition, as far as I remember, a 37 mm caliber is made non-flying.

          About 37 did not hear, but about 23 mm I wrote
  • Operator
    Operator April 2 2020 18: 27 New
    +1
    The main problem of CAS, RobArm, and dozens of other small arms companies is that they push their elbows in the same small clearing, already spanned by large companies.

    The example of Eugene Stoner, who proposed a fundamentally different model of small arms in the face of ARki and hit the jackpot, says nothing to them.
    1. Mister X
      April 2 2020 19: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Operator
      they are pushed with their elbows in the same small clearing, already bounded by large companies.

      hi Since they are held on the market for more than a year, and not two - they earn on their piece of bread and butter.
      Maybe even with caviar.
      Is it not so in the alcohol industry?
      Or in any other area.
      Right?
    2. Mister X
      April 2 2020 19: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: Operator
      The example of Eugene Stoner, who proposed a fundamentally different model of small arms in the face of ARki and hit the jackpot, says nothing to them.

      Roughly speaking, they are involved in tuning.
      There is a merchant for each product.
      And an important role is played by advertising + service support.

      By the way, in the commentary on my last article, you mentioned two-drum stores.
      At the end of this article - just a screen from the site M96 with a similar store)
      1. Operator
        Operator April 2 2020 19: 35 New
        0
        It was tuning that I had in mind, and before, small arms companies such as the one where Stoner worked, were essentially ideological start-ups and moved the gunner forward.
        1. Mister X
          April 2 2020 19: 40 New
          +4
          Quote: Operator
          were essentially ideological startups and moved the shooter forward

          Everything will be Coca-Cola!
          Corporations rule the world.
          1. Operator
            Operator April 2 2020 19: 47 New
            0
            In terms of technical progress, this is not so - at first the startup creates an innovation, then it is bought by krupnyak (which has production facilities, a marketing service, a distribution network, and a high-level lobby).

            And all that is characteristic is satisfied: the grain of the fact that he saved on R&D; start-up - that recaptured money and received start-up capital for a new development.
            1. Mister X
              April 2 2020 19: 57 New
              +4
              Quote: Operator
              start-up - that recaptured money and received start-up capital for a new development.

              Or offered to work in a large
              1. Operator
                Operator April 2 2020 20: 01 New
                0
                It is a possible option.
            2. fk7777777
              fk7777777 April 3 2020 20: 43 New
              0
              Uh, uh, uh, so our 45 is a heel, the campaign is still in the subject, if marketing, design is right))), the thunderstorm is direct))) ...
  • Free wind
    Free wind April 2 2020 19: 37 New
    +4
    The chainsaw is cool, and the trigger is located where necessary. Who worked a chainsaw will understand. Of course this is a joke.
    1. Mister X
      April 2 2020 19: 58 New
      +4
      Quote: Free Wind
      The chainsaw is cool, and the trigger is located where necessary.

      The firm of brooms does not knit wink
      Consulted with lumberjacks
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin April 2 2020 22: 53 New
        0
        The device is really brutal. This will be very convenient from the crowds of coughing "kebab lovers during quarantine". Get to Auchan.
        1. Mister X
          April 2 2020 23: 17 New
          +3
          Quote: garri-lin
          This will be very convenient from the crowds of coughing "kebab lovers during quarantine".

          And if the kebabs have the same thing hidden? wink
  • stariy
    stariy April 2 2020 21: 40 New
    +5
    Ruzhishko Taxbe article is excellent !!!
    1. Mister X
      April 2 2020 23: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: stariy
      Ruzhishko Taxbe article is excellent !!!

      Thank you!
  • Almaty1982
    Almaty1982 April 3 2020 08: 46 New
    0
    If there is a target designation with a conclusion to the helmet, then this is a good pure assault machine gun
    1. Mister X
      April 3 2020 11: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: Almaty1982
      If there is a target designation with a conclusion to the helmet, then this is a good pure assault machine gun

      hi "Chainsaw" is already built on the basis of an assault machine gun wink
      In computer shooters, there are the terms "mochilovo" and "meat".
      Are you talking about such an application in real life?
      1. Catfish
        Catfish April 3 2020 17: 46 New
        +1
        Good afternoon, Michael! hi Well, what can I say ... thank you so much! I read and receive information, the pleasure of reading, and illustrative material is always beyond praise. good
        I hope that you will not leave us your attention in the future. drinks
        PS Saw just killed ... on the spot. I thought that such instances are possible only in toys. The truth is in those where this miracle is present has never been played, so for me all this is news.
        Good luck and health, which at the present time is more relevant than any wishes. smile drinks
        1. Mister X
          April 3 2020 18: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: Sea Cat
          Well, what can I say ... thank you so much!

          hi You are welcome!
          Quote: Sea Cat
          I hope that you will not leave us your attention in the future.

          I am working on the extreme part of the article.
          Quote: Sea Cat
          The saw just killed ... on the spot.

          The professor wrote about her a couple of years ago.
        2. Mister X
          April 3 2020 18: 10 New
          +2
          Quote: Sea Cat
          de this miracle is present never played

          At one time I spied in Call of Duty. Ghosts (2013) I also went through, but I do not remember the chainsaw.
          True, I liked to use assault rifles.
          At tournaments I had a reputation as a "good submachine gunner": I took out snipers from neighboring buildings, I also showed myself well in the nearest ones, and most importantly, I did not camp repeat
          Quote: Sea Cat
          Good luck and health, which at the present time is more relevant than any wishes.

          Thank you, mutually!
          1. Catfish
            Catfish April 3 2020 18: 38 New
            0
            And I somehow stuck to Stalker, so I don't stick out of him. There is something very addictive about this game. And here, in my village wilderness, to download a new game you need at least a day, and it's not very "heavy". And now you won't go to the city once again, and not because someone forbids, but simply, well, in fig. smile
            1. Mister X
              April 3 2020 20: 30 New
              +2
              Quote: Sea Cat
              And I’m something like stuck on the Stalker, so I don’t stick out of it.

              Also a first-person shooter, but the game did not catch me.
              And it’s not the surroundings, as there are missions in Pripyat in COD.
              And I performed them no worse than other missions.
              Quote: Sea Cat
              to download a new game you need at least a day

              In this regard, I am the capital bourgeois laughing
              1. Catfish
                Catfish April 3 2020 20: 38 New
                +2
                COD has missions in Pripyat.

                I remember playing. But they are not very good at us. As with us about them, there was a joke about Soviet cowboys at one time: "Even the muzzles of theirs mustangs are Ryazan." laughing
                1. Mister X
                  April 3 2020 22: 31 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  I remember playing. But they are not very successful about us.

                  It is understandable.
                  STALKER is a series of games developed by the Ukrainian company GSC Game World.
    2. fk7777777
      fk7777777 April 3 2020 20: 39 New
      +1
      Yeah, they’ll bury you both with a helmet and a designator, though first the parts will be swept away in one pile ...
  • fk7777777
    fk7777777 April 3 2020 20: 37 New
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    Oh, petty, oh, how petty underwater aircraft of the armored cavalry are petty. With a caliber that is trifling, it’s immediately 122 mm shotgun loading, and cartridges under 40 kg, and a cartridge case for them under 40 kg, so let them beat the bushes in their backyard in bursts, otherwise))) you never know again Lenin .. .
  • Klingon
    Klingon April 4 2020 01: 57 New
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    Quote: Free Wind
    The chainsaw is cool, and the trigger is located where necessary. Who worked a chainsaw will understand. Of course this is a joke.

    similar to Smartgun from Aliens movie))
    1. Mister X
      April 4 2020 09: 38 New
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      Quote: Klingon
      similar to Smartgun from Aliens movie))

      Yes, weapons from the same series.
      By the way, the M56 Smart Gun is based on the MG 42 German machine gun.
      Dismantled the butt, and added a bunch of body kit.


  • Lied71
    Lied71 April 13 2020 15: 40 New
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    Ha, it’s strange that no one wrote, but ChainSAW or a machine gun similar to it was in the film Elysium paradise not on earth, in a scene with a VIP abduction.
    1. Mister X
      19 June 2020 15: 46 New
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      Quote: Lied71
      the machine gun was in the movie Elysium

      You're right, Chainsaw was featured in the Elysium movie too.
      Thank you for prompting!
      For the film, a different stock and handle were developed.