Western press and liberal Asian media count COVID-19 victims in China by number of ballot boxes in crematoriums

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Western press and liberal Asian media count COVID-19 victims in China by number of ballot boxes in crematoriums

Scientists all over the world are trying to use mathematical algorithms and artificial intelligence to calculate the parameters of the coronavirus pandemic. The main questions that the scientific community is trying to answer are as follows:

why COVID-19 is hit harder in some countries than in others, why in neighboring countries with similar medical care systems and the level of medical specialists, deaths from new pneumonia can differ many times when the planet surpasses the peak of a pandemic, which people are more likely to survive the disease without serious damage to the body?



So far, neither mathematics nor virologists have achieved much success. The only thing scientists currently agree on is that the new coronavirus has not yet reached the peak of its spread.

Data on a dozen countries in which over the past day revealed the highest number of cases is shown on the graph (blue bars indicate the number of cases per day, red columns indicate deaths per day).



There is no Italy on the chart. The reason is that the data for this country over the past day vary significantly - depending on the sources of information. However, if these data were averaged, then Italy would definitely be on the list.

Meanwhile, the Italian edition of Corriere della Sera publishes Guido Santevecchi's material, which reports on a possible "concealment by China of real data on the victims of the pandemic." The author of the article claims that "deaths at the epicenter of the epidemic - in Wuhan - may be tens of times more than officially declared." The material published a value of 42 thousand people.

From an article in an Italian newspaper:

On the Chinese Web, photos of boxes of cremation bodies ashes are circulating. Due to the strict quarantine introduced on January 23, the relatives of the victims could neither attend the farewell ceremony at the crematorium nor go there to collect the ashes. Ballot boxes have accumulated. Caixin magazine, known for its journalistic investigations, has published photos with stacks of boxes of ballot boxes, the number of which, apparently, clearly exceeds the 2535 declared victims of the epidemic.


The following is a fragment of Caixin's publication, which indicates that this week alone, about 5000 urns of ashes were left at the Hankou funeral home.

Additionally, Santevecchi cites a fragment of the release of the Free Asia radio station (ultra-liberal pro-Western media), which states "a possible 42 thousand victims of the pandemic in the province of Hubei."

At the same time, the author asks whether all the data on deaths in the same Wuhan can be reduced solely to the epidemic of the coronavirus, because thousands of people, by definition, could die from completely different diseases.
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    1. -1
      29 March 2020 15: 43
      Start at home! Think .....
      1. +3
        29 March 2020 15: 47
        Well, here is a purely human factor ... this option is very unstable and depends on many factors. smile
        War is war and your own skin is always more expensive.
        1. +15
          29 March 2020 15: 57
          the number of which, apparently, clearly exceeds 2535 announced

          And as evidence he cites a photograph where there are 7 or 8 stacks of ballot boxes, 200 pieces in each ...
          That is, 1600 urns maximum.
          It looks like China has the same "liberal opposition" as in Russia.
          1. +5
            29 March 2020 16: 02
            It looks like China has the same "liberal opposition" as in Russia.

            Sure ... smile
          2. +3
            29 March 2020 19: 39
            Quote: Shurik70
            the number of which, apparently, clearly exceeds 2535 announced

            And as evidence he cites a photograph where there are 7 or 8 stacks of ballot boxes, 200 pieces in each ...
            That is, 1600 urns maximum.
            It looks like China has the same "liberal opposition" as in Russia.

            In addition, people die every day not only from the virus.
          3. 0
            29 March 2020 19: 43
            Wuhan has 1 crematorium?
            1. +1
              29 March 2020 20: 47
              Quote: Liam
              Wuhan has 1 crematorium?

              Did the opposition have only one shot on the flash drive? Or, like dill, did the batteries run out of time?
              1. 0
                29 March 2020 20: 52
                There are more than 40 of them in Wuhan. But this one is apparently special. In the rest, no one was brought in and burned
                1. +1
                  29 March 2020 23: 00
                  Quote: Liam
                  . In the rest, they didn’t import or burn anyone.

                  That is, during the epidemic, mortality fell 40 times? Cancer and AIDS have disappeared?
            2. 0
              29 March 2020 21: 28
              Wuhan has 1 crematorium?

              Important not quantity crematoria - complexes for the disposal of corpses, and the number cremators - actually the stoves themselves. In one crematorium there can be from one, up to several dozens, if not hundreds (if we talk about China with its population).
            3. +2
              29 March 2020 22: 58
              Quote: Liam
              Wuhan has 1 crematorium?

              And in Wuhan, the coronavirus canceled death from old age and from all other diseases?
              1. 0
                29 March 2020 23: 01
                I didn’t cancel it. But before the virus, such creations were not observed in these crematoria. Video from Wuhan crematoria with stacks of corpses and interviews with workers working around the clock appeared on February 4, when according to official data there were four hundred dead
                February 5 2020
                Wuhan crematoriums are overloaded due to deadly coronavirus
                1. +1
                  30 March 2020 00: 39
                  Quote: Liam
                  .But before the virus, such pictures were not observed in these crematoria.

                  https://koryo-saram.ru/koronavirus-v-koree-19-voprosov-ekspertu/#more-40682
                  Here is a South Korean assessment of the accuracy of counting cases. I am surprised by the search for the machinists, who allegedly seek to distort the true picture of the disease. In my opinion, any doctor seeks to enlighten the layman and politician so that he has the right idea about the problem. Only then do politicians begin to act effectively. See how, after visiting the hospital, Putin began to act differently and Cyril, and Sobyanin, and Mishustin. The same is true in China and Ukraine, both in the USA and in Turkey.
                  1. 0
                    30 March 2020 16: 02
                    It seems that you are not reading your own links
                    1. 0
                      30 March 2020 16: 22
                      Quote: Liam
                      It seems that you are not reading your own links

                      I cited this article as opposed to you, where you based on a dubious fact built a big theory. The Korean cited problems in counting and simply stated where the counting could be improved. But he does not make hasty conclusions and writes dubious conclusions. A Korean physician talks about the difficulties in determining the count of sick and infected. But this does not mean that errors are caused by political manipulation. Now in Wuhan, the situation has returned to normal.
                      If there were more patients, then the number of recovered would increase dramatically. And in the PRC, for one deceased, there were 20 who recovered in the middle of the epidemic, 25 at the end. In my opinion, this is a sign that the Chinese did not cheat. In Germany, there is also 25 deceased for 1 recovered.
        2. +6
          29 March 2020 15: 58
          Well, yes, it depends more on who will count. Even 75 years after the Second World War, the loss figures from different sources vary by several times.
          The liberals consider one thing, the Germans another, the Ministry of Defense the third, the fourth historians.
          So it is here. Even if they give real numbers, there will be people who will not believe
          1. 0
            29 March 2020 19: 44
            The source of losses was left alone - the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. On their website are posted all combat losses, with the place of birth, date of death, and place of burial.
            Missing - by no means millions.
            As for the civilian population, the losses of Germany are unknown here - the carpet bombing destroyed not only the population, but also burial documents.
            1. +2
              29 March 2020 19: 48
              This is for adequate people, and any scribbler, depending on the customer, can take a figure that is favorable for this and pass it off as truth, citing the source. And the sources .... well, I already mentioned
      2. +2
        29 March 2020 15: 53
        Quote: Theodore
        Start at home! Think ...

        So after all, they hide something from themselves.
        Therefore, others are suspected of this.
        The hat is on the thief!
        1. -11
          29 March 2020 16: 32
          According to Reddit, the Chinese have sent coronavirus tests to the Czechs. So of these tests, 80% were unable to recognize the disease. Therefore, I would not be surprised if it turns out that the number of deaths in China from the "crown" is much higher than the announced one. Or at least infected.
      3. +7
        29 March 2020 16: 32
        On the scale of China, 40 thousand is completely imperceptible, so they could juggle it so as not to spoil the reputation. You can minus, but I see no reason to be indignant about this assumption.
        1. +1
          29 March 2020 17: 26
          On a German scale, it’s more difficult to manipulate, but you can, for example, write that the patient died from pulmonary edema, and not from the crown, and we get wonderful numbers, especially in comparison with Italy.
          You can minus, but I see no reason to be indignant about this assumption.
        2. +1
          29 March 2020 23: 21
          Quote: Deniska999
          therefore, they could juggle, so as not to spoil the reputation.

          In the United States, the number of people infected with the coronovirus is calculated plus or minus 1000. In Italy, the counting system has failed today. Why do you think that there can be no mathematical errors. Golovanov in his memoirs writes how two generals in the presence of Stalin counted approximately 500 aircraft with different results.
      4. Maz
        +3
        29 March 2020 20: 10
        Masha Zakharova well done. Respect and respect
        1. mvg
          -2
          29 March 2020 22: 36
          Maz, but do you have a positive in life? I’ve read your dialogues with the “God-chosen”, I’ll tell you honestly: mnu also develops masophobia ... And I calmly communicate with people from 17 to 82 in the Security Council
      5. 0
        29 March 2020 21: 44
        Quote: Theodore
        Start at home! Think .....

        Offended by the Chinese brothers?
    2. +14
      29 March 2020 15: 51
      And what does the Western media not consider how many people were killed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya? Or weren’t they people?
      And everything is very simple ... everything was somewhere out there and the western inhabitant was up to the lantern how many millions of corpses the Western idiot brought to those lands. But now the coronovirus can reach these hypocritical geeks, who do not care deeply whether the Arab, European or Chinese. So they got worried, because now we are talking about our own skin.
    3. +1
      29 March 2020 15: 51
      The closeness of official statistics provides the basis for high-profile headlines. At the same time, according to various commentators, the terrible Chinese negligence in terms of security overlapped with the terrible Chinese closeness in terms of information.
      1. +10
        29 March 2020 16: 11
        The Chinese are far from Italian negligence. smile
        1. for
          +6
          29 March 2020 18: 35
          Quote: The same Lech
          The Chinese are far from Italian negligence. smile

          They are together far from ours.
      2. +7
        29 March 2020 16: 47
        Quote: Altona
        The closeness of official statistics provides the basis for high-profile headlines.

        These official statistics can be observed on Yandex maps online, and for all countries where they are maintained.
        There is no closure.
        Here, rather, the sacred "the authorities hide the pgavda" works.
        The US has already overtaken the Chinese by the way, I think in a couple of days they will block the Chinese twice, according to the number of cases.
        1. -1
          29 March 2020 16: 54
          Quote: Gray Brother
          Here, rather, the sacred "the authorities hide the pgavda" works.

          -----------------------------
          I don't follow the statistics and information on coronavirus. An acquaintance from Germany writes to me that the virus is extremely dangerous and that Russians are frivolous dolboys and nesses. I say that I don’t shake hands with people, I try not to intersect unnecessarily. And our authorities need to rely more on medical measures - to distribute masks and drugs for free, to organize assistance to the elderly, and not to tear up taxes on deposits under the guise. So I don't give a damn about "pgavda", real antiviral measures are more important to me. Real activities, not police patrols.
          1. +12
            29 March 2020 17: 03
            Quote: Altona
            I do not follow statistics and information on coronavirus.

            Then how did you determine that it is "closed"?
            Quote: Altona
            Russians, frivolous hollowers and do not care.

            Not all, but many. Especially the youth.
            Quote: Altona
            give out masks and drugs for free, arrange assistance for the elderly,

            Drugs, and so they give out free of charge to those to whom they are supposed to, have already distributed on average three months in advance.
            I agree with the rest.
            Quote: Altona
            Real events, not police patrols.

            And without patrols, "dolboyasters and nihilists" cannot be dispersed to their homes. They re-infect each other, and then they come home and infect their relatives.
            There are options - either they are being beaten by the Russian Guard or they are burying their parents.
            1. -2
              29 March 2020 17: 39
              Quote: Gray Brother
              Then how did you determine that it is "closed"?

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              What? China's Great Firewall No Longer Working? Are there non-Chinese social networks in China? How do we know what statistics they give out? They give out what they seem to give out. Maybe full, maybe partial. The number of infected is comparable to European countries with ten times the population. There is already, as it were, grounds for suspicion for the media. Moreover, such media, which need a "discrepancy". Regarding the word "liberalism" you mentioned, I can remind you that today any press is biased and biased, including the Kremlin, which you dearly love.
              1. +5
                29 March 2020 17: 46
                About the sacred, I already wrote, this is a long-time bored reception.
                Just when the Chinese were told to sit at home - they were sitting, and not crowds at the barbecue crowd.
                And when they saw loungers on the street, they immediately called the police or local activists, after which the lovers of a walk went to quarantine for two weeks.
                Here where else can this be cranked up? Nowhere.
                Unless in North Korea, if only - that's why there are no statistics at all, but I think that they will cope no worse.
                1. +1
                  29 March 2020 18: 49
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  About the sacred, I already wrote, this is a long-time bored reception.

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                  Your sacred is not at all convincing, you also famously blurted out about "free drugs", I have not seen "free drugs" anywhere. It can only be in the clinic for 1 tablet according to the "federal standard".
                  1. +3
                    29 March 2020 18: 55
                    Quote: Altona
                    nowhere I have not seen "issued for free".

                    You just do not get free medicine.
                  2. +2
                    29 March 2020 19: 53
                    Quote: Altona
                    I have not seen the "free issued" anywhere

                    Learn from diabetics.
                2. -1
                  29 March 2020 23: 26
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  Unless in North Korea, if only - that's why there are no statistics at all, but I think that they will cope no worse

                  The fragmentary information in the same Contact allows us to say that Korean doctors monitor about 1000 people in quarantine or on suspicion of an illness. It seems that only one patient was in the DPRK.
                  1. +2
                    30 March 2020 00: 07
                    Quote: gsev
                    The fragmentary information in the same Contact allows us to say that Korean doctors monitor about 1000 people in quarantine or on suspicion of an illness. It seems that only one patient was in the DPRK.

                    There is nothing to catch in social networks on the SK, info usually comes from South Korean newspapers, and they are very bloodthirsty, judging by their publications, they are constantly shooting everyone from anti-aircraft guns and mortars, half of the North Koreans have already been shot, and the second half from starvation has died.
              2. 0
                29 March 2020 17: 58
                The number of cases can be explained by the rigidity of quarantine measures. But the ratio of the dead and recovered raises questions
                1. +1
                  29 March 2020 18: 06
                  Quote: Avior
                  the ratio of dead to recovered raises questions

                  Enough effort and money not to leave patients to die, that's all.
                  1. +1
                    29 March 2020 18: 10
                    It may be so, but it cannot be said that in Europe there is such a difference in the level of medicine
                    This is clearly seen in comparing life expectancy
                    Even with a longer life expectancy in Europe, the ratio still raises questions
                    And the attitude of a human life in Europe is at least no worse than in China
                    1. 0
                      29 March 2020 18: 22
                      Quote: Avior
                      that in Europe there is such a difference in the level of medicine

                      Paid medicine, please note. There, no one will contain infrastructure designed for people who can not pay.
                      This is a business, and business needs only those assets that are profitable and unprofitable to contain no one will.
                2. 0
                  29 March 2020 23: 33
                  Quote: Avior
                  the ratio of dead to recovered raises questions

                  The Chinese believe that by gargling with hot water and salt, you reduce the likelihood of illness by several times. Also frequent drinking hot tea. In addition, early treatment if the coronovirus affects less than 50% of the lungs gives a chance of recovery. The simplest method of self-diagnosis. The impossibility of holding a breath in the mouth for 10 seconds or more to hold your breath without shortness of breath and dry cough is a sign of coronovirus ..
              3. +3
                29 March 2020 18: 01
                Quote: Altona
                "liberalism",

                I did not mention this word. Probably out of habit laughing
          2. +2
            29 March 2020 19: 55
            Quote: Altona
            A acquaintance from Germany writes to me that the virus is extremely dangerous and that Russians are frivolous hammers and do not care.

            Or it's about medicine. He became ill in China and Russia - the doctor will come, he will take an injection, if he is severe, he will be taken to a hospital. Medicines on sale, vitamins, meldonium, antibiotics.
            In the United States, the first thing they figure out is the type of insurance and how much it can pay. If the insurance of the wrong system, ambulance doesn’t come, they won’t put him in the hospital. There are no drugs on the free market.
            Our expats in Italy, Germany, France, the Netherlands write the same thing: they send them to a local doctor who has one prescription - paracetamol and lie down. For analyzes - sign up for 2 months. There are no medicines on the free market, only on prescription, and the doctor prescribes paracetamol.
            A child is sick - it’s easier to buy a ticket to Russia, and they will be sent directly to the children's hospital directly from the ladder
    4. +4
      29 March 2020 15: 59
      Warning. All the math below does not mean that you need to score for prevention, stop washing your hands, wear a mask and start sneezing to cough on others.
    5. +14
      29 March 2020 16: 06
      And what in China are people only dead from CorVi19 cremated? What stupid calculations
      1. +6
        29 March 2020 16: 33
        Quote: svp67
        What stupid calculations

        And indeed, the article again escalates panic. Regarding the calculations, the real nonsense, as I already wrote, is absolutely not taken into account people who were ill without going to the hospital. And there are a lot of them.
    6. +19
      29 March 2020 16: 13
      - Francisco Garcia: The Spanish football coach died of coronavirus at age 21, but he suffered from leukemia, which dramatically reduces immunity.
      -In Moscow, a woman died after a blood clot came off. At first, they also "wrote off" for the coronavirus ..
      I think that such facts are not enough.
      Often, bloggers "draw" graphs, not mathematicians and virologists.
      1. +5
        29 March 2020 16: 16
        Often, bloggers "draw" graphs, not mathematicians and virologists.

        People are trusting .. the blogger’s opinion is perceived as the opinion of the Lord God ... unfortunately.
      2. 0
        29 March 2020 16: 35
        Quote: knn54
        Often, bloggers "draw" graphs, not mathematicians and virologists.

        I don’t even think about bloggers, but puppeteers are more serious.
      3. 0
        29 March 2020 17: 01
        Quote: knn54
        I think that such facts are not enough.
        Often, bloggers "draw" graphs, not mathematicians and virologists.

        I read that the Chinese are actually revising statistics on coronavirus deaths in favor of reduction. For at a certain moment all those who died with a coronovirus were recorded there, even if the cause of death was different
      4. -3
        29 March 2020 17: 59
        The coronavirus operative headquarters dispelled the myth that a new infection is dangerous only for older people. According to the headquarters, at the moment among those who have been confirmed the diagnosis in Moscow, 33% are people from 18 to 34 years old. Another 46% are citizens aged 35-64.
        1. +5
          29 March 2020 18: 22
          Both a child and a middle-aged and elderly person can become infected. Moreover, the chances are about the same. But the course of the disease and the prognosis will be different. Mortality too.
    7. +1
      29 March 2020 16: 40
      No. Libera are still mathematicians. Give them free rein they count.
      1. +3
        29 March 2020 16: 54
        Quote: Captive
        Libera are still mathematicians.

        Always flock to the smell of carrion.
    8. -1
      29 March 2020 17: 05
      I am more worried about the lack of information from "neighbors" on the exact numbers of sick and infected people! And this is from our Rostov region side by side, and taking into account the fact that the authorities there de facto have withdrawn themselves from the problem, disturbing thoughts are constantly creeping into my head.
      1. +4
        29 March 2020 17: 52
        Are you talking about Ukraine?

        The number of coronavirus infected in Ukraine reached 418 people
        https://ria.ru/20200329/1569306687.html
    9. +4
      29 March 2020 17: 06
      When I served, I watched how, in part, they really fought with the virus, in fact, they managed in a month!
    10. 0
      29 March 2020 17: 12
      If interested, I can write how it was.
    11. +2
      29 March 2020 17: 15
      The liberal media cover the information according to Goebbels’s rules, that is, the more monstrous the lie, the faster they will believe in it, practically no one will check and search for facts!
      1. +1
        29 March 2020 17: 45
        Quote: Ru_Na
        The liberal media cover information according to Goebbels rules, that is, the more monstrous a lie, the faster they will believe in it.

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        Do not forget to label the Kremlin media as liberal and even ultra-liberal. Otherwise, you strive to enroll both the left and the extreme right as "liberals". Apparently, labels are firmly imprinted on the brain and there is no time to consider who the real liberals are.
        1. -2
          29 March 2020 20: 02
          Quote: Altona
          Kremlin media do not forget to write in liberal

          Kremlin media - Vesti24 and RT. But they are prohibited in the Free World, for they do not correspond to the morality of the cannibals from Abu Ghraib. The rest of the media is private.
    12. +1
      29 March 2020 17: 22
      There are a lot of shift workers in our region, people are worried, I work on shifts, but there is no re-shift. How further it will not be known.
      1. 0
        29 March 2020 18: 59
        I have a brother-in-law 26 left for the shift, 27 shift has occurred, is already working. To Chukotka.
    13. -1
      29 March 2020 17: 43
      The following is a fragment of Caixin's publication, which indicates that this week alone, about 5000 urns of ashes were left at the Hankou funeral home.
      And how many ballot boxes arrived on a typical day, they do not want to tell us?
      "China's concealment of real data on the victims of the pandemic"
      The desire of Italians is clear not to be ahead of the rest in deaths from a coronovirus. And we decided to include the topic: we are not such gouging, it’s in China that we have twisted the counter.
    14. +2
      29 March 2020 17: 46
      Moreover, official statistics take into account only confirmed cases of coronavirus infection. The actual death toll may be several times greater.

      Why is it where the epidemic developed so rapidly and with such tragic consequences?

      “For every person who died from Covid-19, there are three more people who died of pneumonia at home without any tests,” said Giorgio Gori, mayor of Bergamo in Lombardy.
    15. +3
      29 March 2020 17: 51
      . can all the data on deaths in the same Wuhan be reduced solely to the epidemic of coronavirus

      This is understandable.
      From the number of those who died during the pandemic, the deceased must be deducted for the same period last year.
    16. 0
      29 March 2020 17: 52
      So far, neither mathematics nor virologists have achieved much success. The only thing scientists currently agree on is that the new coronavirus has not yet reached the peak of its spread.

      Even the oligarchs panicked from such news.
      "The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, said that the oligarchs are rushing from England back to Russia."
      Zakharova said that the other day, “very rich” emigrants from Russia called her. They want to take the child out of London to their homeland by private jet. When asked why, the oligarchs said that in England they had their health insurance canceled and they began to do tests for COVID-19 for 450 pounds (44 thousand rubles). The situation in Britain was called by the callers "collapse."
      “You have been bullied for many years for your money. You fooled and paid with gold for decay, for illusion, instead of supporting your country and your people, which with titanic efforts, patience and love restored the state after the collapse of the USSR and the collapse of the 90s, ”the diplomat wrote.

      “Now there are lines at world airports and shouts:“ We are the citizens of Russia! ” Really? “We are citizens by law,” they explain by blowing dust off Russian passports. Then please begin with the basics - respect for the country and its people, ”summed up Zakharova.

      Read more here:
      https://www.5-tv.ru/news/290056/zaharova-prizvala-obolvanennyh-bogatyh-emigrantov-uvazat-rossiu-ieenarod/
    17. +2
      29 March 2020 18: 01
      Russian billionaires also donate large sums to the fight against coronavirus.
      The other day, the president of Alfa Group, Vadim Zingman, announced that he would transfer 1 billion rubles to combat the consequences of the epidemic. Vladimir Potanin allocated the same amount, but not to the authorities, but to charitable NGOs. And Mikhail Gutseriev suggested using his hotels to isolate citizens and accommodate temporary hospitals.

      https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4307948
    18. -2
      29 March 2020 19: 40
      Mortality from tuberculosis is more than 100 thousand per month (worldwide, annual - 1,5 million).
      Of course, a patient with tuberculosis (ischemia, hypertension) will almost certainly die. And it will be recorded on the coronavirus.
      There is an advertisement for coronavirus, but against its background, the average mortality has not increased. That these thousands (less than 4) compared with the 14 million who died this year.
      1. +1
        29 March 2020 22: 18
        Tell Italians and Spaniards about it. In crowded clogged hospitals. Only, I'm afraid the hot southern guys will stone you.
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        2. 0
          30 March 2020 20: 25
          I read the notes of our expats in Zen. Italy, the south of France, western Spain are a household nightmare. On average, the climate is mild - and there is no sane heating, as a result, those who are called the middle class live in winter in stone houses with wet walls covered with black mold.
          Black mold, Carl! The very one whose appearance in the American house is eliminated in the only way - the house is burned. Because it practically turns off the immune system, a simple cold leads to hemoptysis. In blessed countries in Europe, people live for generations in moldy cold houses.
    19. +1
      29 March 2020 20: 20
      Today. Just half an hour ago. The future walked with beans
      No one on the street. Generally. Two elderly "RAFIKA" watered the street with something very smelly. Ekaterinburg.
      1. 0
        30 March 2020 00: 25
        Moonshine watered? :)
    20. +1
      29 March 2020 22: 13
      radio station "Free Asia" well, this one can be trusted in words, it is an ultraliberal pro-Western media, they can not give verified data. And what is broadcast by radio stations "Free Europe" and "Free America".
    21. 0
      30 March 2020 00: 19
      One thing is not clear to me. If we assume that the number of dead is hidden, then what's the point?
      1. 0
        30 March 2020 00: 52
        Well, theoretically, the reasons for this may well be
        Show what a wonderful government, for example
    22. 0
      30 March 2020 10: 52
      The main goal of such calculations is to justify themselves for the failure of a medical system based only on treatment. And the excuses that nothing needs to be changed, everything is fine with us too.

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