Welcome to the XNUMXst Century Middle Ages

Welcome to the XNUMXst Century Middle Ages

Caricature of Vitaly Podvitsky


In the first half of the 14th century, “black death” swept Europe. Sinking in prejudice and ignorance, the "cradle of enlightenment" quickly found the culprits. Either witches and sorcerers burned with a blue flame, then black cats got it. Quite a bit and Jews. When, in the 1320s, one of the Jews allegedly found a letter in Anjou proving a conspiracy against Christians, a monstrous wave of lynching of Jews swept from German lands to Gibraltar, then the looters stole their property. In some regions, the authorities quite officially decided to exterminate the Jews as a kind of prevention against the plague.

During the plague of the 1770s that came to the capital of our country from the Northern Black Sea Region during the Russo-Turkish War, a riot broke out. The Moscow archbishop Ambrose, perfectly aware of the danger, forbade prayers at the Bogolyubsky icon of the Mother of God, which was considered healing. Ambrose even began to collect donations for the treatment of patients. But the crazed crowd beat the archbishop to death.

It would seem a long time ago and not true. But, looking at the behavior of mankind, it’s even more ridiculous to ask a question: what conclusions will humanity draw? In general, none other than the monstrous in scope vanity. Brave new world of the end stories Fukuyama arrived, and then suddenly such an unexpected natural (natural?) Gift in the form of a coronavirus. And it began ...

Consciousness Deficit Pandemic in “New Europe”


In Europe, due to hysteria in the media, a real hunt for medical masks has begun. In Poland, a batch of 23 thousand medical masks intended for doctors in the Lazio region in Italy was blocked. While trying to remove bureaucratic obstacles, the Italians accused the Poles of stealing a medical load, which is also difficult to call humanitarian, since it was fully paid by Italy.

A little later, after the sad Czech and Polish experience, the Italian authorities, importing medical masks, decided to bring them through the port of Rotterdam. However, when the cargo arrived in Rotterdam and the German distributor unloaded it for delivery to Italy, the Berlin authorities requisitioned it.


As you know, in French Guiana is the Kourou Cosmodrome, which is jointly operated by the European Space Agency and the French National Center for Space Research, with all the necessary infrastructure. So, from this very infrastructure, or rather, from a warehouse, unknown people managed to steal 40 thousand medical masks. The regimen of the object did not affect the theft process.

Keep up with Western trends and the United States. So, if someone can order medicines or remedies from abroad, then most likely the “cradle” of the sanctity of private property and the open free market will withdraw your purchase immediately upon arrival in the country.


New Sanjars were just a drill

But our Ukrainian neighbors went farthest than all, for whom the shameful “burn the witch” style incident in Novy Sanzhary was apparently just a training. Harassing people who are suspected of being infected, hunting for drugs, fighting in public transport is just the backdrop for much wilder things. So, in the Ternopil region, the body of a 68-year-old man who died from coronavirus was packed by doctors in garbage bags and thrown into the street. Details were later told by the daughter of the deceased Anna Polischuk, who was stunned by the ongoing horror. According to her, the doctors, having thrown the lifeless out onto the street, closed the doors of the hospital, and relatives without protective equipment had to carry the man in the bag to the car and even drag him along the ground.

"The crown, the crown!" - children shouted and threw stones


But all the savagery from the West is somewhat refined. No "good old" bonfires, street battles, at least not yet. But the so-called developing countries have gone disproportionately further. Petty theft and speculation, of course, are included in their “menu”, but the citizens of these countries did not have time to swim in the fat of a magnificent life.

After the coronavirus hit India, the Indians launched a real persecution of tourists, including from Russia, who were in the country. Tourists, these "cash cows", suddenly turned into objects of universal hatred. Tourists are thrown out of hotels, the local population, having seen foreigners, reacts extremely aggressively, and the authorities are in no hurry to stop these actions. And in some regions of the country, the authorities not only condone this, but issue official instructions to expel tourists from hotels.


Restoring India

Cases have become more frequent when, with a cry of “crown, crown”, Indian citizens spat on foreigners or threw stones and sticks at them. At the same time, the country is completely closed. Trains, buses and even taxis are suspended. Indian states cover internal borders. On the streets of some Indian cities, the police and voluntary “vigilantes” restore order, so there have been cases of attacks by law enforcement officers on “whites” who tried to purchase food or escape from a closed country.

It comes to ridiculous tragicomic situations. So, some tourists who decided to gather ancient refined wisdom in India, as it is now fashionable among a specific public with a pierced nose and a half body tattoo, were blocked in ashrams - the abode of thinkers and philosophers. The Indian sages, judging no less wisely, declared to their “disciples” that if they went out into the street, they would not be allowed back. And this means that, at the risk of not getting to the airport, the "enlightened" will be without housing, because almost all hotels are closed.


Hungry primates in Thailand attack humans

In Thailand, which has been a tourist Mecca for many years, the coronavirus also forced the authorities to impose strict quarantine. Closed cafes, restaurants, numerous clubs, shopping centers, etc. But the shapeless herds of infantile tourists, sweetly nurturing their own selfishness, continue to come together to once again arrange a feast during the plague on picturesque beaches. The local police decided without a second thought to disperse such gatherings with batons. Not too happy and local residents and, oddly enough, primates, which tourists fed. Now macaques literally attack passers-by, demanding feeding. What’s more wild about this is hard to say ...

When did people start running wild?


It would seem that the outbreak of aggressive inadequacy, theft and selfish betrayal of the former "brothers in the free world" lies entirely in panic because of the coronavirus fed by the media. But this is only one side of the coin, so to speak, too superficial judgment. One outbreak, for all its magnitude and the press feed, could not lead to such individualization of both countries and individual regions, as well as specific individuals.

There is a lasting impression that at some civilizational moment we simply turned somewhere in the wrong direction. In order to build up a desperate race for the consumption of goods and services, mankind was able to convince the holiness and inviolability of the right to eternal hedonism and gluttony at the highest level. Kilotons and terabytes of advertising convinced individuals that they were worthy, and that was certainly all for them.

Society in this design lost all meaning and even importance for an individual engaged in constant consumption of the final product. Moreover, individuals, considering themselves strong and independent, began this very society quietly, and sometimes loudly, to hate and despise. Such a social formation as the state, which was absolutely obliged to free individuals to the grave plaque by all, was especially plagued.

The author does not have all kinds of sympathies for tourists greedy for pleasure, who, despite such a difficult time, rushed for the cordon, buying up cheap last-minute tours. Especially for those tourists who, under the guise of knowing the culture and "wisdom" of other countries, just mess with their ego, following fashion and isolating themselves from a short and non-progressive, in their opinion, society. And the point is not even the lack of personal responsibility, but in egoism. After all, they did not even think about the danger they might pose to society upon their return. And why do they need it. Indeed, these progressive individuals despise society.

And so the countries are closing. And the infantile howl of people who realized themselves to be citizens and part of society so in time for themselves, announced the information field. The paradox is that society cannot turn its back on such people, because this will lead to its own devaluation. But to draw the proper conclusions about the depravity of educating people in such a parasitic consumer approach to life itself is not only possible, but it was necessary yesterday. And all this concerns not only tourists, but also those who only yesterday made money on them, those who now speculate with masks, those who are engaged in information and political speculation ...

In this light, there has been no civilizational leap since the Middle Ages. The realization of this, however, is dug in by large-scale advertising actions, when politicians, after the next terrorist attack, took up their hands and sang: “We are the world” or “We are not afraid”.
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  1. svp67 30 March 2020 15: 09 New
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    A little later, after the sad Czech and Polish experience, the Italian authorities, importing medical masks, decided to bring them through the port of Rotterdam.
    They never learned anything ... why not through their ports?
    India, Thailand ... they even “press” strangers, although this is absolutely not good.
    And the Ukrainian woman begging not to burn her children and grandchildren, because she brought infection from Italy to the village .... is that how?
    But our officials and people who consider themselves to be "elite" who directly contributed to the penetration of this infection to us, what were they thinking about? What century are they living in?
    1. My address 30 March 2020 15: 23 New
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      Sergei hi !
      Somehow ... eleven years ago I read Kissinger's words, which, perhaps, a huge mistake was the destruction of the Soviet Union, where a new MAN began to appear. That he considers himself guilty of this.
      1. Igor Polovodov 30 March 2020 16: 15 New
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        Undoubtedly, only not a mistake, but a tragedy!
      2. aleksejkabanets 30 March 2020 16: 23 New
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        Yes, a person is "strong in the back mind." According to Kissinger, this was prompted by the behavior of his own grandchildren.
      3. NEXUS 30 March 2020 17: 02 New
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        Quote: My address
        Somehow ... eleven years ago I read Kissinger's words, which, perhaps, a huge mistake was the destruction of the Soviet Union, where a new MAN began to appear. That he considers himself guilty of this.

        Mankind has turned the wrong way long before the emergence of the USSR. We lived and live as CONSUMERS, not CREATORS. How much over the past 1000 years was due to banal greed and thirst for power? How much money has been invested and is being invested in weapons, in entertainment, in tourism, etc. ... and compare this figure with what is allocated to medicine and healthcare. We did not conquer old age, we did not conquer disease, in many countries mortality is more than fertility. But on the other hand, we are creating space rockets, Intercontinental rockets, submarines, at most do not indulge in stuffed with electronics and weapons, and so on and so forth. Cancer, tuberculosis, diabetes and many other deadly diseases ... have we found a cure for these ailments? No! But we are building huge yachts with a jacuzzi and swimming pools, inventing expensive (essentially worthless) cars that the rich buy for show-offs and for stupid status in society.
        Has a man become smarter, healthier, happier? Has human life expectancy increased multiple?
        We have been living crookedly, lazily and thoughtlessly for a very long time. And we begin to say the right things only when the reckoning for our thoughtlessness is close.
        Man, as a species, did not evolve, but godlessly degraded. And this is not an abstract phrase. Scientists have proved that even our brain has become smaller than that of our ancestors. We run to gyms, eat steroids, pump, sorry, different parts with silicone and Botax to be beautiful and healthy. 300 years ago, this was not necessary for people, since they lived differently. They didn’t litter the ecology, they moved, created something and thereby were physically healthy.
        We have become MUTUATED BODIES, and not thoughtful and evolving creatures.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2 30 March 2020 18: 46 New
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          Thoughts not of the husband, but the child.
          1. NEXUS 30 March 2020 18: 49 New
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            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Thoughts not of the husband, but the child.

            Dear, children are much wiser than us. They have neither meanness, nor envy, nor hypocrisy. So I will count your words for a compliment.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2 30 March 2020 18: 52 New
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              Children are children. And you are just an unreasonable child.
              1. NEXUS 30 March 2020 18: 55 New
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                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Children are children. And you are just an unreasonable child.

                Makar, just you showed not even your rationality, but stupidity. Moreover, the funny thing is, you don’t even understand this. You should grow wiser, but learn to hear what people want to say, to understand the essence ... but I think this is definitely not about you.
                1. IS-80_RVGK2 30 March 2020 19: 06 New
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                  Do I have to make out your pseudophilosophical nonsense or do you carefully re-read what you wrote, think and agree that you were wrong?
            2. Maki Avellevich 30 March 2020 20: 06 New
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              Quote: NEXUS
              Dear, children are much wiser than us. They have neither meanness, nor envy, nor hypocrisy. So I will count your words for a compliment.

              you're wrong. in them all these valor were laid before birth. no need to get hit in romance.
        2. Vadim237 30 March 2020 22: 29 New
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          Well, from the tuberculosis and cancer in the next 20 years, a cure and effective treatment will definitely appear - this will help AI elements which are now being actively developed, all people are doing their job, who develops weapons, who is involved in medicine, electronics, materials science, energy, space systems, rockets, who produces cars and produces and sells yachts everything in motion is worthless.
        3. Mikhail3 31 March 2020 09: 26 New
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          Quote: NEXUS
          have we found a cure for these ailments?

          Found it. And these medicines are monstrously expensive, that’s all. The USSR is the only country and social formation on the planet that tried to resist the suicide of this variant of civilization. But to destroy the USSR, the whole world was united. And we didn’t stretch it, we didn’t do it, we couldn’t. Mostly lost to ourselves, of course, but still ...
          In general, I do not believe that civilization will survive. I think our world will end, and it will be pretty soon. Ordinary flu turned out to be an overwhelming test, but the flu is far from the worst thing that can happen, and absolutely will happen, at any time.
        4. astepanov 31 March 2020 14: 51 New
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          Quote: NEXUS
          300 years ago, this was not necessary for people, since they lived differently. They didn’t litter the ecology, they moved, created something and thereby were physically healthy.
          We have become MUTUATED BODIES, and not thinking and evolving creatures.

          Yes, there was a happy life: the average life expectancy in Europe 300 years ago was a little over thirty, child mortality was about 60%, epidemics of plague, smallpox, typhoid, cholera (probably from a clean environment), endless wars, stupid peasant and craft labor, religious fanaticism, universal illiteracy ... The golden age is right! You wouldn’t be engaged in the snickering and distribution of cheap fairy tales, huh?
          1. NEXUS 31 March 2020 14: 54 New
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            Quote: astepanov
            Yes, there was a happy life: the average life expectancy in Europe 300 years ago was a little over thirty, child mortality was about 60%, epidemics of plague, smallpox, typhoid, cholera (probably from a clean environment), endless wars, stupid peasant and craft labor, religious fanaticism, universal illiteracy ...

            They told you this idiocy at school? Are you sure that it was exactly like you were sitting here and gurgling? How many stories have you rewritten in your memory? We don’t know what happened 100 years ago, and you’re sitting here oppressing your fingers for 300 years.
            1. astepanov 31 March 2020 16: 25 New
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              Do you know, then? And on the basis of their knowledge are your fingers oppressed? And gurgling, respectively? Do you have other, more significant, arguments? And if not, then sit and do not gurgle. But I have arguments. My great-grandmother, who was born not 300, but 150 years ago, was proud that she raised five souls - and gave birth to eight. As you can see, the mortality rate of 37,5% could be a matter of pride ... However, history is history, and parish books clearly indicate that child mortality was indeed monstrous. And the lion's share of the population was essentially slaves. These books are still preserved. You are an adult, probably, and you should be ashamed to be delirious.
        5. ApJlekuHo April 1 2020 11: 20 New
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          We did not conquer old age, we did not conquer disease, in many countries mortality is more than fertility

          They won, and even then, when these diseases created ..
          Has a man become smarter, healthier, happier? Has human life expectancy increased multiple?

          The elite has become smarter, healthier, happier, what have you got to do with it?
          We have become MUTUATED BODIES, and not thoughtful and evolving creatures.

          Everything is correct, but not “we have become”, but “we have been made”.
      4. Reptiloid 30 March 2020 17: 40 New
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        Quote: My address
        Sergei hi !
        Somehow ... eleven years ago I read Kissinger's words, which, perhaps, a huge mistake was the destruction of the Soviet Union, where a new MAN began to appear. That he considers himself guilty of this.

        I want to supplement! The impression is this. Now the experience of creating a new person, the Soviet one, is being studied by foreign experts from various industries, come here to work with sources. Books are published on this topic, both here and abroad.
        It's a shame that y. we continue to spit in the Soviet past here and there.
        1. Mikhail3 31 March 2020 09: 27 New
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          Do you mean cool grant-eaters who managed to integrate into a fashionable theme? There are no specialists in the world who would be able to seriously study this topic. Parenting is not that ...
          1. Reptiloid 31 March 2020 11: 55 New
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            Who knows, who is the grant-eater, and who is not? I do not think that this is a fashionable topic ..... rather, it will be expressed like this ----- books appear with attempts to understand, with interest in the experience of the USSR, and not with lies, slander and ridicule of the USSR.
            ............ no specialists ....... seriously study ......
            but is there? requestBut isn’t it? request ...... But I am pleased with the appearance of such good books with attempts to study and save. After all, much of the 20s was destroyed, both periodicals and publications. I am very interested in this topic, I got a lot of respected comrades here (and in PM). If you do not mind, do I in PM? bully
            Quote: Mikhail3
            Do you mean cool grant-eaters who managed to integrate into a fashionable theme? There are no specialists in the world who would be able to seriously study this topic. Parenting is not that ...
      5. Sibguest 30 March 2020 19: 35 New
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        Alexander, hello
        Almost instantly, from the Web, he found this statement by Kissinger:
        “The greatest sin of the United States is the systematic destruction of the only just world state - the Soviet Union. This thought was prompted by the behavior of my own grandchildren. Modern people have everything and at the same time have nothing. Nothing pleases us, we are not truly happy. The Soviet man lived fully, breathing deeply. We corrupted him, opened the door for him to the world where the bright laws of abundance hid the bestial laws of capitalism. It took me many years to understand that happiness does not consist in everyday well-being. We had only s-e-s-s, and they had love. We had only money, and they had sincere human gratitude. And so in everything. I can hardly be called a fan of socialism, I am a Westerner with Western thinking, but I believe that a new person was really born in the Soviet Union, you can say homo soveticus - a Soviet person. This man was a step above us, and I am sorry that we destroyed this reserve. Perhaps this is our greatest crime ... "
        1. A. Privalov 30 March 2020 20: 27 New
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          The source of this amazing message is a frankly satirical site of fictitious "news" "IA Panorama":
          1. Paul Siebert 31 March 2020 06: 00 New
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            I decided to understand the question "how are they?" IN USA?
            I re-read "USA today" on March 30. Carefully.
            Much surprised.
            For the first time in many years, I did not feel that I was reading a newspaper from another planet.
            The topics of the articles are the same as in Russia. Now our media has one chief editor - COVID-19.
            Their international problems, Trump's political war with the Democrats, and stock turmoil have faded into the background. Russia disappeared from view as a phantom in the morning.
            Everyone is discussing coronavirus.
            Professionally and unscientific, hysterical and enthusiastic, philosophical and at the everyday level. One article discussed a heresy on the topic: "Does Coronavirus Kill Sunlight?" In another, "will the virus survive in the package if it sends infected items by mail?"
            I was more interested in the question - how are they doing with quarantine?
            It means so.
            There are federal orders from Washington urging local authorities to influence the spread of the infection based on local conditions.
            26 states in the person of their governors approved quarantine. Soft. Somewhere bars, coffee houses and saunas work, somewhere not. Sports, dog walking, shopping malls are allowed.
            More firmly approached business in Florida and Alaska. Entry to these states is restricted. A curfew has been imposed in Puerto Rico from 7 p.m. to 5 a.m. Although this territory is actually not part of the United States.
            In the rest of the states, there is a mess that the Russians could envy. Someone in the forest, some for firewood.
            Washington calls for “temporarily closing non-essential enterprises”
            Now, each local owl per bitch decides which company to recognize as "insignificant." Competitors bomb the authorities slander each other.
            Against this background, we look preferable.
            Our vast territories and well-known indifference to panic will do their job.
            We will overcome the infection.
            And we will become more united. Stronger. hi
            1. Essex62 April 1 2020 00: 51 New
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              In this situation, the printing press of cut paper will soon have to be dragged to another place, are the masons still not panicking?
              1. Paul Siebert April 1 2020 05: 35 New
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                Quote: Essex62
                In this situation, the printing press of cut paper will soon have to be dragged to another place, are the masons still not panicking?

                Free masons go underground. In bomb shelters.
                I came across several promotional offers for the construction of luxury bunkers.
                They will have to be walled up there, let them live in the darkness, like morlocks ... wink
    2. Vend 30 March 2020 15: 30 New
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      politicians, after the next terrorist attack, took up their hands and sang: “We are the world” or “We are not afraid”.
      Now it's dangerous to grab pens laughing
      1. Insurgent 30 March 2020 15: 42 New
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        In the first half of the 14th century, “black death” swept Europe. Sinking in prejudice and ignorance, the "cradle of enlightenment" quickly found the culprits. Either witches and sorcerers burned with a blue flame, then black cats got it.


        “Do not burn the hut! Kill me, don’t touch the children ”

        The first woman to get coronavirus in Bukovina, who managed to infect dozens of residents of her and neighboring villages, turned to neighbors and asked for forgiveness.

        Her appeal was published on Facebook. Elizabeth recently returned from earnings from Italy. Probably there she caught a dangerous virus. Arriving home, a local resident took an active part in the public life of her village Kolenkovtsy.

        For example, she went to rallies under the regional administration on March 9, where residents of three villages fought for the creation of the OTG, talked with the head of Kolenkovtsy. As a result, the woman infected not only her children and grandchildren: the head of the village fell ill with a high temperature, and now 14 villagers are in the hospital with coronavirus. As of today, March 29, in the Chernivtsi region 59 cases of coronavirus have been detected.




        And along with the Kolenkovtsy, three more villages were quarantined: Toporovtsy, Bochkovtsy and Grozny. In these areas put up checkpoints, blocked all roads and forest paths with barriers.
      2. HAM
        HAM 30 March 2020 15: 49 New
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        Now they clap their hands .... and eyes ...
        1. Aerodrome 30 March 2020 15: 52 New
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          it’s good that there are no monkeys on the streets, only monkeys ...
        2. Insurgent 30 March 2020 16: 57 New
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          Quote: HAM
          Now they clap their hands .... and eyes ...

          In the gesture of this woman, I see something else ...

          Fear is unrestrained of what the feudal, who have lost the appearance of human fellow villagers, can actually do with her and her family ...

          "Independent" Ukraine today ...
          1. HAM
            HAM 30 March 2020 17: 47 New
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            It was a comment on the post "Venda", other posts with pictures appeared later ....
            So about the "hands" - I mean the help of Europe ...
            1. Insurgent 31 March 2020 07: 45 New
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              Quote: HAM
              It was a comment on the post "Wenda"

              I see, I get it. yes
          2. Grandfather Crimea 30 March 2020 22: 46 New
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            In the years of the Second World War and later, such fellow villagers and the like were published over Komsomol members and communists, who were sent to work in the west of Ukraine. Remember how chopped and sawed, ripped open bellies and burned Soviet citizens ..... There was and there is a large layer of haters, cruel creatures, it’s hard to call them people. This is such garbage! (As Grandfather Panas blurted out once in the program "To the Dobry Dity" (good night, kids)
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      The virus provoked and exacerbated another terrible disease, which has long been undermined by the old and apparently decrepit European organism, this disease Stupidity, caused by a low educational level. Now this disease is rapidly growing into its final stage Moraism and this process is progressing. The virus only accelerated this process.
  2. Svarog 30 March 2020 15: 12 New
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    about the viciousness of educating people in such a parasitic consumer approach to life itself is not only possible, but it was needed yesterday

    Yesterday, thirty years ago, this did not happen .. Capitalism is really a vice, which consists of vice .. Today you can feel for yourself and compare how the state protected the work and health of citizens and what is happening now .. I’m sure we would they didn’t notice any cataclysms in the USSR, the dollar is already 80 .. the crown .. by the way, everything would be much better organized with the crown too .. but the capitalists would be shaking now .. it’s time to reset the economy to them .. somewhere overproduction is huge debts .. and we will reset the president’s terms .. to each his own, someone will get out of this situation very rich and strengthened, and someone will completely lose everything ..
    1. rruvim 30 March 2020 15: 17 New
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      I also recall how our country under socialism quickly mobilized around Chernobyl. But radiation is worse than this flu.
      1. svp67 30 March 2020 15: 39 New
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        Quote: rruvim
        But radiation is worse than this flu.

        With how many in the USSR there were such epidemics of the all-Union scale? No, they were stopped at the very beginning.
        1. Vadim237 30 March 2020 22: 39 New
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          The USSR has never encountered such an epidemic - there was smallpox, there was anthrax - but all these diseases were long studied along and across and the treatment was developed and tested.
          1. svp67 31 March 2020 06: 17 New
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            The USSR has never encountered such an epidemic - there was smallpox, there was anthrax - but all these diseases were long studied along and across and the treatment was developed and tested.

            With a similar one? Of such magnitude? Faced more than once. The epidemic of typhoid and syphilis managed to suppress them and no longer prevent them, even in the most difficult war years, although there were outbreaks of infection. Yes, and there were similar epidemics, it was an outbreak of “Russian flu” in 1977-78, they were able to quickly identify, diagnose and strangle the same, although this flu was walking around the world
        2. Pathos 31 March 2020 14: 46 New
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          Yes, there was a time they drank soda from a vending machine and from one glass, oh yeah, they just didn’t get out and chewed with tar and lashed out with sticks and kids threw stones at each yard of the yard into the yard, in winter you couldn’t get the wet out of the river in the summer and everyone was healthy. And now the most serious diseases are brought by children from kindergartens and schools. And as with the union, fish oil in kindergartens gave it finally trash laughing Every morning they build a queue worth a burly aunt with a can clack a spoon in his mouth laughing following laughing
          1. svp67 31 March 2020 19: 49 New
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            Quote: Paphos
            ....following
            How did we survive ... tongue
          2. napalm April 1 2020 12: 30 New
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            Fish oil reminded me already flinched. And also a spoonful of holasas, and the hematogen is not real as it is now. And pills I do not remember the name with iodine.
      2. EvilLion 31 March 2020 09: 08 New
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        Do you know how much the liquidators paid for this? But, when they complain now, they prefer not to remember this, although unlike those who were supposed to go on duty, they were not driven there except for thirst for money.
    2. Ilya-spb 30 March 2020 15: 34 New
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      I'm thinking about something else ... I'm keen on reading. I read fiction.

      For me, the mystery of the appearance in the last decade in a huge number of books of the "post-apocalypse" style.
      For some, even computer games do. "Metro 2033" for example ...


      Post-apocalypse - as a hidden need of modern society. Post-apocalypse expresses all the darkest human instincts.

      And where is the optimism? Where is the Half Day World (c) Strugatsky?
      He's not around. Not interested. Boring.

      Or maybe right now, we, Humanity, need to strive for the Half Day world and its values.

      PS The first book I read on science fiction was "The Andromeda Nebula" by Ivan Efremov.
      1. Van 16 30 March 2020 15: 46 New
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        Noon Utopia, of course. But beautiful. And the world, apparently, is striving for the "Predatory things of the century." Unfortunately.
      2. rruvim 30 March 2020 15: 52 New
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        The darkest human instincts are expressed by WARHAMMER40K. Almost all the less talented Anglo-Saxon writers excelled in this "world." This is even worse than post-apocalypse. Even with some kind of zombies. Much worse! And the brothers also excelled when they cast the "Doomed City" ...
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          And the brothers mutated actually. Compare "Country of crimson clouds" and "Devil among people."
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            Quote: ZAV69
            And the brothers mutated actually. Compare "Country of crimson clouds" and "Devil among people."

            Mutated? And you compare, in what times were written "Country .." and "Devil .." (and "Search for destination"). And remember, when the most severe satire was created on our then propaganda system - “Inhabited Island” (as soon as censorship slammed it)! "Snail .." came out by samizdat. The tale of the three - too! In vain you attribute a mutation to them!
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          And the brothers also excelled when they cast the "Doomed City" ...

          Well, here you, IMHO, did not quite correctly understand their idea.
      3. antivirus 30 March 2020 17: 00 New
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        late.
        broke in the USSR in the post-apocalyptic. back in the early mid-80s. WITHOUT ANY BROTHERS AND PARTNERS (maybe their spiritual energy has changed our country? Before the collapse.)
        powerful energy was and beat (and not at RAO UES)
      4. victor50 30 March 2020 18: 45 New
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        Quote: Ilya-spb
        PS The first book I read on science fiction was "The Andromeda Nebula" by Ivan Efremov.

        Read Snegov "People as Gods"
      5. Maki Avellevich 30 March 2020 20: 11 New
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        For me, the mystery of the appearance in the last decade in a huge number of books of the "post-apocalypse" style.

        the answer is simple. civilization in its growth has reached the stage of a plateau. all that remains to be done is to destroy it. since building up is no longer possible.
        also children building a sand castle on the shore. when a castle is built it is always destroyed. with joyful screams, mind you!
        here are the gentle and sensitive souls of artists and splash out this attitude in films, books, etc.
        there's nothing you can do.
      6. Tank hard 30 March 2020 20: 21 New
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        For some, even computer games do. "Metro 2033" for example ...

        Read the book "Food and Ammunition" and "Songs of the Dead Nightingales" by Michurin Artyom. There, people are described in full color. wink
    3. AU Ivanov. 30 March 2020 15: 56 New
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      In the Soviet Union, indeed, there would be no quarantines. Mortality from COVID19 would be kept secret, as was the case with the outbreak of the anthrax. ulcers in Sverdlovsk, where doctors were even forbidden to make the correct diagnoses and real conclusions about death.
      1. aleksejkabanets 30 March 2020 17: 40 New
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        Correct diagnoses, for a number of diseases, are forbidden even now.
      2. EvilLion 31 March 2020 09: 10 New
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        Do you yourself understand how medicine will work if the doctor does not make the correct diagnosis? Your head is not in order. There is a big difference between departmental documentation, which is as true as possible, because decisions are made on the basis of it and messages in the media.
    4. Aerodrome 30 March 2020 15: 58 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      Just yesterday, thirty years ago, this was not ..

      hah! You are burning! Socialism was smoldering there, and we still did not feel like Animals as now, we were a Society. with flaws of course, but almost Perfect, compared to today's herd. now outside the window: TIN. George Orwell, and the Overton Window ... with which I congratulate ...
      1. rruvim 30 March 2020 16: 02 New
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        Well, they drove into a herd. Or in apartments, as they locked in the Cows. No explanation. In addition to some mythical threat that the Foreman saw in Kommunarka, through a Chinese respirator.
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    6. aleksejkabanets 30 March 2020 17: 38 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      Yesterday, thirty years ago, this did not happen .. Capitalism is really a vice, which consists of vice .. Today you can feel for yourself and compare how the state protected the work and health of citizens and what is happening now .. I’m sure we would they didn’t notice any cataclysms in the USSR, the dollar is already 80 .. the crown .. by the way, everything would be much better organized with the crown too .. but the capitalists would be shaking now .. it’s time to reset the economy to them .. somewhere overproduction is huge debts .. and we will reset the president’s terms .. to each his own, someone will get out of this situation very rich and strengthened, and someone will completely lose everything ..

      Feudal society has replaced slave-owning society, capitalism has replaced feudalism, communism (the first stage is socialism) has replaced capitalism, society is developing, the process is inevitable. The Paris Commune lasted 72 days, the Soviet Union 70 years. Capitalism was built in Europe for about 500 years (first Italy the 14th century, then Holland, etc.). Still will be.
      1. Gato 31 March 2020 02: 50 New
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        Will still be

        And what will happen after communism?
        By the way, at that time they almost kicked me out of the Komsomol for this question.
    7. IS-80_RVGK2 30 March 2020 18: 50 New
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      Capitalism is an advanced socio-economic formation. Therefore, the realization that he is becoming obsolete should not affect an adequate understanding of his contribution to the history of mankind.
      1. aleksejkabanets 30 March 2020 19: 48 New
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        This is so, any next economic formation is always more progressive than the previous one.
      2. Yes, dear IS-80_RVGK2, capitalism is the same, "advanced". ,, Opium Wars ,, XIX century - how wonderful! To plant COUNTRY (!) On drugs and also, to punish stupid Asians, that wouldn’t blather, and don’t rock the boat. Lovely such English-speaking builders ,, capitalist tomorrow ,,! , (,, Ordinary ordinary people, with affiliated ,, bad people ,,. ) ... Or a weird one, catching, blacks and shipping by water transport, economy class, straight to the plantation. Those who survived the move. And how, progressively, the British administration in India executed the rebellious aborigines! Advanced guns were tied to the barrels of guns by advanced carriers of advanced trends in politics and economics ...
        And two world wars in the XNUMXth century? Tens of millions of victims in the West and East ...
        The undoubted merit of imperialism! War-war, and settlement through Switzerland. The beauty! So he fought, and he fought. And, one’s own, automobiles (airplanes, explosives, fuel, engines, small arms ...) are needed and ,, adversaries ,,. It’s nothing that the corpses of PEOPLE after the bombing of cities were not even buried - they were burned. ,,Nothing personal just business!,,
        An evil tale about the “progressiveness” of capitalism is needed for ordinary nonhumans to camouflage their crimes against people. ,, Capitalism ,, they did for themselves, under their ,, aspirations ,,. ,, Rights without duties! ,, - this is perhaps the main motto of this ,, system ,,. A terrible motto! Deadly for humans! Where in world history will you find SUCH concentration camps like the Nazi capitalists? ,, Ideal business, minimum costs ... ,, For a bowl of balandy, they trusted, German-speaking prisoners, effective managers, to collect unique planes and missiles for the Third Reich (and for the whole, civilized ,, world, by the way, too . ,, Free ,, cooperation, the exchange of ideas and technologies ..) All this nasty crap, all this filthy game was able to stop the Russian Soldier 75 years ago! But he was tired of the struggle, he lost his vigilance, and most importantly, he forgot about rn and ... and the disgusting fetid swamp slurry of capitalism flooded Russia over time.
        Can we pump these feces? Can we tidy up my homeland? We will be able to give in the ass Russian-speaking, ordinary nonhumans, - lovers to ride on someone else's hump?
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          I would put a hundred pluses, if I could. It is inhuman in the fetid swamp that sucks, deeper and deeper, our Homeland.
    8. Vadim237 30 March 2020 22: 36 New
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      All cataclysms in the USSR were hidden or tried to hush up - everyone would have been unaware that something had happened and that it was something that posed a mortal danger. And all associated with events of this nature, under the receipt of non-disclosure, state secrets held their mouths shut.
      1. Essex62 April 1 2020 01: 23 New
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        Close information tightly is not realistic, even in a society with a level of communication of the middle of the century. Especially if it is associated with high mortality. Not one of the most responsible people will be able to keep their mouth shut when your children die. Yes, and it’s hard to shut up a person’s mouth whose well-being did not depend on any bureaucrats, even the highest level. Worker spit on the bosses. Nothing they could do about it, the state guaranteed it. It simply did not bring the Soviet government to serious situations with mass deaths. Prevented
        1. Nameless April 6 2020 04: 07 New
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          You should definitely read about the Mayak plant and the accident on it in 1957 and about which the general public only found out in the late 80s (and even now few know about this disaster - and it was much more serious than Chernobyl) - then and didn’t say nonsense about the “infallible god-like laughing sovereign power "
    9. Okolotochny April 1 2020 13: 48 New
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      Who about what, but (with pediculosis) about the bath. Svarog, still not tired of demanding the resignation of the President?
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        He gets paid for it. Maybe even from China.
  3. qQQQ 30 March 2020 15: 19 New
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    We live under capitalism, and this individual is above all. They wanted jeans and chewing gum, they all got it, but it all has a price, but it's a little expensive.
    1. Svarog 30 March 2020 15: 23 New
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      We live under capitalism, and this individual is above all

      An individual with money and the more it is, the higher it is (the individual) .. and if you middle class wassat and RFP 17 tons of wood .. then you don’t notice at all .. until we are talking about taxes .. and yet the middle class we already have 70% .. wassat
    2. tihonmarine 30 March 2020 17: 40 New
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      Quote: qqqq
      They wanted jeans and chewing gum, they all got it, but this all has a price, but it's a little expensive.

      It's a little expensive for sure, I remember my childhood in Transbaikalia, it seems they didn’t live richly, though everything was on the table, taiga and rivers were fed. The clothes were simple, they went to school in boots and felt boots, a cotton hat and a suit. There were no more than three receivers in the village, everyone could get by with a radio link, they had no idea about TV, a film a week in the club, and after that dancing to the harmonica, later the radio appeared. But they lived together happily, celebrated both the Soviet holidays and the board. Entertainment was hunting, fishing, taiga with its gifts. And most importantly, everyone lived approximately the same way, and there was no envy. But when he began to live an urban life, then everything went wrong. And the shoes, that would be imported, but without jeans, and you can’t get to people, a black-and-white TV, they won’t come to visit you, and the apartment is only three-room, so that there is a car, and not a Zhigul but a Volga and somehow they didn’t notice how they began to live, not for joy, but for things, and began to glance to the west, to its splendor. "Here is how people live, and we?" And imperceptibly, with a cry and a squeal, they got into capitalism. What do we have, all that was lost, and what got in return?
      1. qQQQ 31 March 2020 10: 47 New
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        What do we have, all that was lost, and what got in return?

        In my opinion, they have lost confidence in their future and those of their children. Now it’s impossible to foresee even tomorrow.
      2. EvilLion 31 March 2020 13: 38 New
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        As it was in the childhood cartoon of American peers of our parents:

        And don't spend your time lookin 'around
        For something you want that can't be found
        When you find out you can live without it
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        In return, a once free man received a scum of a non-human-backbone using it as a feed for his scruff.
  4. Slavs 30 March 2020 15: 22 New
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    Great article. Mandatory for acquaintance to fans of "European values".
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      Ideas for this article are sucked from the finger. Or maybe even from where. Such jaundice
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        Quote: Deck
        Ideas for this article are sucked from the finger. Or maybe even from where. Such jaundice

        Why do you think so?
        1. Deck 30 March 2020 20: 07 New
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          Because today I spoke with friends from Denver and Rotterdam. Yesterday from Seinajoki. Only some local authors were wild. And judge the rest of the world by themselves
          1. aleksejkabanets 30 March 2020 20: 23 New
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            You spoke with “friends from Denver and Rotterdam,” and on the basis of this you made certain conclusions, and why do you think that the author did not talk to anyone, did not study the topic, and generally “sucked the topic out of your finger”? Maybe the author did some work, worked with sources and more?
            1. Deck 30 March 2020 22: 35 New
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              Well, why immediately from the finger? I wrote about other bodies))
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              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              spoke with "friends from Denver and Rotterdam", and based on this, certain conclusions were drawn

              So, friends of friends and their acquaintances are the most reliable sources. fellow Well, offense, of course, gnaws at the master's world. It happens in the lobby. yes
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                Well, offense, of course, gnaws at the master's world. It happens in the lobby.


                So I say: wild. Foam from the fangs is already dripping, soon the neighbors will begin to bite their feet.
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    3. aleksejkabanets 30 March 2020 20: 26 New
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      Quote: Slavs
      Great article. Mandatory for acquaintance to fans of "European values".

      Common capitalist values.
  5. cniza 30 March 2020 15: 23 New
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    In order to build up a desperate race for the consumption of goods and services, mankind was able to convince the holiness and inviolability of the right to eternal hedonism and gluttony at the highest level. Kilotons and terabytes of advertising convinced individuals that they were worthy, and that was certainly all for them.


    Yes, capital has grown a consumer for itself, forgetting the sacred - "... man is not fed with bread alone ..." ...
    1. tihonmarine 30 March 2020 17: 46 New
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      Yes, capital has grown a consumer for itself, forgetting the sacred - "... man is not fed with bread alone.

      But about this we somehow forgot, but it's a pity.
      1. cniza 30 March 2020 17: 47 New
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        If we do not return to this, our enviable fate is not ...
  6. Vladimir61 30 March 2020 15: 24 New
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    ABOUT! Probably the Americans went the farthest! This was written including by M. Zakharova.
    A parcel with medical masks was seized from a Channel One correspondent in New York, TV presenter Yevgeny Popov told a Telegram channel. He also posted a screenshot of a letter sent to the journalist.
    "We regret to inform you that the product you purchased is an essential medical item. We were informed that the goods were seized after delivery. We will refund you to recover the loss.", - is noted in the document.
    1. Leshy1975 30 March 2020 15: 40 New
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      Quote: Vladimir61
      ABOUT! Probably the Americans went the farthest! This was written including by M. Zakharova.
      A parcel with medical masks was seized from a Channel One correspondent in New York, TV presenter Yevgeny Popov told a Telegram channel. He also posted a screenshot of a letter sent to the journalist.
      "We regret to inform you that the product you purchased is an essential medical item. We were informed that the goods were seized after delivery. We will refund you to recover the loss.", - is noted in the document.

      We, too, such a parcel, it is quite possible that they would seize. Well, it’s just impossible to export it (source realnoevremya.ru).
      on the basis of a decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of March 2, 2020, a temporary ban was introduced in Russia on the export of disinfectants, antiviral and other similar means from the country, with the exception of cases of international humanitarian assistance to foreign states, as well as the export of these products by individuals for personal use.

      In addition to masks, the list also contains disposable chemical protection suits, certain types of respirators, shoe covers, disinfectants, surgical gowns and gloves, gauze and bandages.
      1. Liam 30 March 2020 15: 49 New
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        In Moscow, an airplane with 1 million masks purchased by the Italian region of Abruzzo was detained. Also at the beginning of last week. On Saturday I was still there.
        https://www.google.com/amp/s/it.blastingnews.com/cronaca/2020/03/coronavirus-comprate-1-milione-di-mascherine-dallabruzzo-aereo-fermo-da-giorni-a-mosca-003100687.amp.html
        1. Pilat2009 30 March 2020 21: 46 New
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          Quote: Liam
          In Moscow, an airplane with 1 million masks purchased by the Italian region of Abruzzo was detained

          Here they are where they ended up. There are no masks in pharmacies in Yekaterinburg!
        2. Vadim237 30 March 2020 22: 44 New
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          In Russia, these masks of 5 million per day are already produced - but even this is sorely lacking.
      2. Vladimir61 30 March 2020 17: 28 New
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        We, too, such a parcel, it is quite possible that they would seize. Well, it’s just impossible to export it (source realnoevremya.ru).
        Do you think that we are being deceived?
        Carriage and pick-up, sending and receiving, different things! It was not the parcel that was sent that was seized, but a cynical message officially received that addressed to the correspondent, with the addressee stating that they say "we need it ourselves."
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  7. Lipchanin 30 March 2020 15: 25 New
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    Horror and nightmare. How people quickly cease to be people.
    For centuries, culture has been planted and within a few months it completely disappears
    1. balunn 30 March 2020 15: 31 New
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      Do you think that it is different with us? A little more horror from the zombie creator, the essence will grow up the bucks and the people will end up in small caps and see what happens
      1. Lipchanin 30 March 2020 15: 34 New
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        I said about all the people
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          It’s a lot of people, but not all people (s)
      2. lwxx 30 March 2020 15: 56 New
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        Do you think that it is different with us? A little more horror from the zombie creator, the essence will grow up the bucks and the people will end up in small caps and see what happens

        Do we have a lot with egg capsules? Not long ago I got stuffed with cons for 13%? And our hated zombie creator? Sometimes people need to listen to what they say. Quarantine is a war, not a NG vacation, with barbecue and repair. People, come to your senses! This is not horror with the "zombie". This is a real danger! We are really well prepared, but the human factor hasn’t been canceled. There are inadequate authorities, the Bashkir head of the district and his wife, a doctor, joined the Stavropol "professor". Moscow, as the largest city of the Russian Federation, technology break-in and the task of the regions to draw conclusions.
        1. balunn 30 March 2020 16: 32 New
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          We prepared poorly. This is evidenced by the lack of masks and disinfectants in pharmacies. Now about those who week (so far only the first). Will not work. I am about those who work and receive their income from what I have gained during the day. These are sellers of non-food goods, Ipshniks, tenants in shopping centers and so on and so forth. Here they are. They both accrued rent, and accrued and the landlord absolutely does not care what is happening.
          1. lwxx 30 March 2020 18: 03 New
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            Masks that are sold in pharmacies do not help from the contagion of the word at all. Could already study, I don’t even use them. Yes, people working with private traders fell under the blow, and then on fictitious salaries. Allegedly, at the minimum wage or at odds. The state will compensate workers who are in quarantine of the RFP, but according to reports to the tax. Gray salary? Your risks and all that arises from this. And don’t be fooled by tax concessions - they are not canceled, they are delayed. But there are a number of measures to maintain small and medium-sized businesses.
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        3. The Siberian barber 30 March 2020 19: 26 New
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          Quote: lwxx
          Quote: balunn
          Do you think that it is different with us? A little more horror from the zombie creator, the essence will grow up the bucks and the people will end up in small caps and see what happens

          Do we have a lot with egg capsules? Not long ago I got stuffed with cons for 13%? And our hated zombie creator? Sometimes people need to listen to what they say. Quarantine is a war, not a NG vacation, with barbecue and repair. People, come to your senses! This is not horror with the "zombie". This is a real danger! We are really well prepared, but the human factor hasn’t been canceled. There are inadequate authorities, the Bashkir head of the district and his wife, a doctor, joined the Stavropol "professor". Moscow, as the largest city of the Russian Federation, technology break-in and the task of the regions to draw conclusions.

          There are enough freaks: a ghoul flew to Kaliningrad from Moscow to celebrate a birthday, with a company, in a nightclub. Only from the company +10
          Talked with a doctor, one of the maternity hospitals ... No masks !!!
          Planted a nurse to sew! Female pads are glued to them, they are sprayed with some kind of solution and voila - readiness!
          I can’t say how it is now, and more recently, tests were taken to Novosibirsk .. Self-isolation, we, too, was at a "level": people on the coast, as in the beach season.
    2. Svarog 30 March 2020 15: 35 New
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      For centuries, culture has been planted and within a few months it completely disappears

      A very subtle remark .. but mind you ... the Soviet culture did not disappear even thirty years later .. In my opinion, although it is simply etched out of the minds, through the media and history books .. This suggests that the culture was true, which was ahead of development of humanity .. But it is time to return all the best that we could be proud of.
      1. military_cat 30 March 2020 16: 06 New
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        Soviet culture did not disappear even thirty years later ..

        I got the biggest impression of Soviet culture when dealing with sources of increased danger when I read about the accident in Chazhma Bay.

        https://topwar.ru/137376-tragediya-v-chazhminskoy-buhte-samaya-taynaya-atomnaya-avariya-sssr.html

        (...) neither the 9th of August, nor the 10th of August, the specialists of the technical departments of the boat arrived. Transhipment team officers decided to deal with the problems on their own. The fasteners of the reactor cover were removed, after which the approaching crane of the floating workshop began to lift the cover. At this time, at high speed, a torpedo boat came from the sea, from which a strong wave went. In the wake, the floating workshop with a crane swung, after which the reactor lid was pulled out to an unacceptable height. A thermal explosion occurred, as a result of which the overload team completely burned out.

        Thanks, but NO
        1. Matroskin 30 March 2020 16: 34 New
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          This is an emergency as a result of the human factor (negligence). Greatly manipulate the concept of culture.
          Culture and education here ...
          https://topwar.ru/112551-kak-soldaty-iz-sovetskogo-stroybata-potryasli-mir.html
          As would be done, in such a situation, the current "unique personality" with education, each for himself, is a rhetorical question. But we now know the prices of human organs.
          1. military_cat 30 March 2020 17: 01 New
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            Negligence is a synonym for a lack of production culture. And in this case, many factors at once coincided with the lack of a production culture: the experts did not come, the reloading team did not give a damn about the regulations, but also about the laws of physics, the boat captain ignored the speed limit. And it is unlikely that all those involved suddenly decided to simultaneously show negligence. It’s just that before it all did not come together, but at one moment it came together randomly.
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              Negligence is a synonym for a lack of production culture.

              I agree. So what? How does a production culture relate to human qualities. Or have all these people committed these acts intentionally? Or do you not particularly like Soviet citizens? I can tell you from the history of other states similar examples. The closest example is negligence in Fukushima. Maybe then you need to present to humanity as a whole?)) I think it is necessary to urgently write a report to the UN about the criminal negligence of people))
              1. military_cat 30 March 2020 20: 32 New
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                Quote: Matroskin
                I can tell you from the history of other states similar examples.
                I recall that it was originally conducted that the Soviet culture was ahead of the development of all mankind. I am a man of technical stock, for me the culture of production is the most significant among other cultures.
                1. Matroskin 30 March 2020 21: 18 New
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                  Well, there it is about the humanitarian culture, just, but you transferred to another plane. However, this does not negate the fact that blaming someone for something, a comparison is necessary. And, anticipating, negligence and lack of professionalism, I do not condone. By the way, I’m a humanitarian warehouse)) The eternal struggle, two storekeepers))
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                  “I am a man of technical warehouse,”

                  Then ask yourself what height the wave would have to be in order to swing a floating technical base having: length - over 100 meters;
                  the width is 20 meters.
                  And could a torpedo boat (according to another version of the torpedoes) create such a wave. For the rest, I agree that the accident in Chazhma is the result of a violation of the recharging process.
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                    The reactor from a stable state to a state of acceleration at instant neutrons can be separated by fractions of a millimeter of motion of the rods, this happens abruptly.
            2. Vadim237 30 March 2020 22: 49 New
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              Yes, such disorder was in the USSR everywhere and always - the same thing in modern Russia.
    3. edmed 30 March 2020 17: 40 New
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      For centuries, culture has been planted and within a few months it completely disappears

      A man is a fierce beast, all this thin skin-culture, civilization, morality and other husks, it only slips away about his survival, unlike other predators he has an advantage - brains that allow him to try to survive among his own kind. "Man, man-wolf" And the food, the ancients said, somehow recourse
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      For centuries, culture has been planted and within a few months it completely disappears

      This is the whole human essence.
  8. Matroskin 30 March 2020 15: 26 New
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    Perhaps the "man for money" paradigm will end and people will wake up? Before the dark Middle Ages, there was the Roman Empire, its collapse and degradation. Or maybe the collapse of the USSR immerses the world in the new dark Middle Ages?
  9. knn54 30 March 2020 15: 28 New
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    “A man is a wild beast, covered with a thin layer of varnish of civilization, but this layer has not completely disappeared from me.” Friedrich Nietzsche.
    In 1942, Goebbels said * man, this is the same beast coated with the varnish of education "
    So, are they (to some extent) right in their judgments?
    1. Matroskin 30 March 2020 15: 53 New
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      No! Goebbels animal stuffed a bullet in his head, and the Soviet Man reached for the stars. To remind you how Soviet people were knocked down in the 90s by humanity, according to the precepts of an animal with a bullet in the head?
      1. tihonmarine 30 March 2020 17: 50 New
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        Quote: Matroskin
        Remind you how Soviet people were knocked down through the knees in the 90s, humanizing an animal with a bullet in the head according to the precepts?

        No, it’s just that we were stripped of varnish, of our Russian, Soviet civilization.
        1. Matroskin 30 March 2020 18: 39 New
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          Come on you. This is a play on words from a fascist quote. If someone wants to be an animal, he will be, explaining his bestiality by cannibalistic philosophy.
          "Thy soul strove upward -
          Born again with a dream
          But if you lived like a pig -
          Remain a pig. "
          Being determines consciousness. A child raised by monkeys will behave like a wild monkey, however, a person has a mind to curb instincts and this distinguishes him from a monkey. By the way, we are very different from the ancestors of the Stone Age. You do not behave like a dog? Did you see a pie on a shelf in the store and ate it without thinking?
          Quote: edmed
          Man is a fierce beast, all this thin skin-culture, civilization, morality and other husks

          Here is a typical example of the worldview, on the basis of which the SS men were prepared and, as a result, monstrous atrocities (there is no morality for your stupid, which means that you can do anything). Yes ... even through hunger, pain and humiliation, you can make an animal out of a person and the SS did it (even documentary filming remained, imagine). But the soldiers from the T-36 did not sink to cannibalism and from heroism to the Great Patriotic War there were no such examples.
    2. rruvim 30 March 2020 16: 15 New
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      Goebbels just quoted Nietzsche. His native words: “Der Mensch war und bleibt ein Tier. Mit niedrigen oder hohen Instinkten. Mit Liebe und Hass. Aber das Tier bleibt es immer.“ “Man has been and remains an animal. With low or high instincts. With love and hate. But he always remains an animal. "
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        Quote: rruvim
        “Man has been and remains an animal. With low or high instincts. With love and hate. But he always remains an animal. "

        Unfortunately. crying
  10. Leshy1975 30 March 2020 15: 31 New
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    In Europe, due to hysteria in the media, a real hunt for medical masks has begun. In Poland, a batch of 23 thousand medical masks intended for doctors in the Lazio region in Italy was blocked. While trying to remove bureaucratic obstacles, the Italians accused the Poles of stealing a medical load, which is also difficult to call humanitarian, since it was fully paid by Italy.

    A little later, after the sad Czech and Polish experience, the Italian authorities, importing medical masks, decided to bring them through the port of Rotterdam. However, when the cargo arrived in Rotterdam and the German distributor unloaded it for delivery to Italy, the Berlin authorities requisitioned it.

    Most likely the same reason why we requisition. States take full control of the goods that are vital in this case (source realnoevremya.ru): The FSB border service spoke about the detention of a consignment of disinfectants weighing 11 tons, which they tried to take to Kazakhstan. The products were sent for inspection to the Trinity Customs Post.
    According to the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation border control in the Chelyabinsk region, a Scania truck was discovered at the Bugristoe pass, traveling from Moscow to the Zhambyl region. Inside the border guards found tanks with a volume of 500 ml and 5 l, TASS reports with reference to the press service of the department.
    According to the press service on the basis of a decree of the government of the Russian Federation of March 2, 2020 Russia imposed a temporary ban on the export from the country of disinfectants, antivirals and other similar means, with the exception of cases of international humanitarian assistance to foreign states, as well as the export of these products by individuals for personal use.

    Interstate cooperation, as I understand it, is still ongoing in Europe (source Lenta.ru):
    why not say france and Germany delivered to Italy two million masks and tens of thousands of bathrobes? Asked Macron.

    PS I am against one-sided coverage of information. This forms a misunderstanding of the ongoing processes. Here citizens will read the article and again will wait for the imminent collapse of the EU (after the promised soon collapse of NATO), well, well, they there requisition and dig cargo from each other. But in reality, so far, NATO is only expanding, and the EU is not going anywhere.
    1. The leader of the Redskins 30 March 2020 16: 06 New
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      Alas, articles of this nature are apparently welcomed at VO because of their frequent and regular appearance. Probably so that the remnants of the "varnish of civilization" continued to shine in his eye ...
      1. Deck 30 March 2020 20: 21 New
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        This afternoon the military aircraft of the Polish Air Force brought 15 resuscitation doctors and all the necessary equipment for their work to Bergamo. They will join the multinational medical team, in which 32 Russian military doctors already work. It will be interesting to read versions of local chauvinists.
    2. aleks.29ru 30 March 2020 17: 42 New
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      This is of course a serious success for the FSB, and whoever brought a ton of gold to London is not voiced.
  11. NordUral 30 March 2020 15: 33 New
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    Western European civilization is the result of retouching. The USSR was an attempt to civilize man, but this attempt was halted halfway. The result of this is more and more visible.
    But the peoples of the world, especially the West, had to pray for the health of the Soviet Union tirelessly. Before some, they already understand this, but not enough, unfortunately.
  12. rruvim 30 March 2020 15: 37 New
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    Here we have Khimprom plant in Elektrostal. Barely worked: filters for the Moscow Region did, gas masks, "muzzles" for builders. For the new year, I noticed a cluster of trucks in his warehouse. Some people in cool jeeps. On New Year's holidays, when everyone "walked", there were even more trucks. I ask one man who watched the loading: "What are you boiling?" "In China, some kind of muck. We buy up masks." Each pack contained 1000 masks. The beginning of January. I call my boss: "In the city masks are bought in bulk. Serious people come. Maybe we wave it all at once?" He: "Yes! All this is nonsense ..." A week ago, we were sitting in a tavern and I remind him of that conversation, he answered historically: "Rum, I would have known the ransom, I would have lived in Sochi ..."
    1. AU Ivanov. 30 March 2020 16: 02 New
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      Smart people who can predict. Therefore, be rich to them.
      1. rruvim 30 March 2020 16: 03 New
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        Most likely not a forecast, but an insider.
    2. DEDPIHTO 30 March 2020 16: 06 New
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      Roman, or maybe it was God who led you from sin to weld on people's grief? Think carefully about your comment, is it worth regretting such lost profits ..
      ps there’s a witness ,, zero, ”Ivanov doesn’t think at all, money doesn’t smell like that ... medieval ,, smart, like all of their sect negative
      1. rruvim 30 March 2020 16: 19 New
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        This is my chef who “pissed me off”. For which I am grateful to him! It’s just that some bastards made money on this business, knowing what this leads to.
  13. Amateur 30 March 2020 15: 50 New
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    Actually, Helen Bezukhova (who is from War and Peace) died in 1812 from the Spaniard (flu pandemic). (According to another version - from a criminal abortion). good
    1. rruvim 30 March 2020 15: 57 New
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      It seems she died from childbirth. Or was Lev Nikolaevich hiding something? Although he was not a witness, he was not yet born.
      1. Amateur 30 March 2020 17: 22 New
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        It seems she died from childbirth.

        Refresh your memory. Although it is more a punishment than a pleasure to read Lev Nikolaevich.
        In the estate “Yasna Polyana” Leo Tolstoy lived, He didn’t eat fish or meat, Walked along the alleys barefoot, His wife, Sofia Tolstaya, On the contrary, loved to eat, She did not go barefoot - She kept the noble honor ... His maid, Seraphim, She loved to walk in the garden, Tolstoy noticed this business, and began to look after her. This is how the nobility decomposed, This is how the family decomposed,

        (Russian folk song from the student hostel)
        1. rruvim 30 March 2020 17: 29 New
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          And I remember Kharms: “a train with second- and third-class railcars slowly passes near Yasnaya Polyana. Young people look out of the windows at the field with all their eyes, they look for Lev Nikolaevich. They saw the shepherd. They shout: where's the mentor? Shepherd: he mow down on barefoot leg only goes to the letter ... "
  14. Doliva63 30 March 2020 15: 54 New
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    "When did people start running wild?"
    When they abandoned socialism in favor of chewing gum. drinks
  15. Svetlana 30 March 2020 15: 58 New
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    How could the Berlin authorities requisition cargo unloaded in Rotterdam? Rotterdam is Holland (Netherlands), another country.
    Please explain.
    1. rruvim 30 March 2020 16: 06 New
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      Maybe they mixed up with Hamburg, or stopped the truck at the entrance to Germany?
  16. Avior 30 March 2020 16: 15 New
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    However, when the cargo arrived in Rotterdam and the German distributor unloaded it for delivery to Italy, the Berlin authorities requisitioned it.

    Berlin authorities in Holland?
    1. rruvim 30 March 2020 16: 25 New
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      It works there. This is the EU. The container could follow the brokerage documents of a German company, therefore it is also German in the Netherlands. If the place of delivery to Italy is prescribed in the CMR or in the bill of lading, this does not mean anything. The Germans are responsible for the cargo, like carriers and logisticians, therefore the cargo is CIP or CIF at the moment of movement.
  17. samarin1969 30 March 2020 16: 22 New
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    An article about civic duty and the state. At VO, too, many turned up their noses at the conditional "iron curtain." And the number of adherents of applying their talents abroad is also rather big. Both of them like to teach "good, but disadvantageous Russia." And how many indignations were there about total control and discipline. Many wrote: "life cannot be turned into a barracks."
    Now our "free mess" returns people to real values ​​- life, health and civic duty.
    It's just too late. And the authorities get off with symbolic measures. Gos. structures lose unity. Several southern entities restrict the movement of people and food.
  18. Ovrag 30 March 2020 16: 26 New
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    I declare responsibly. The first to blame the media.
    Here in Russia this may not be felt. Because the opposite is the setting of the media to repeat the mantra "everything is fine. Everything is calm." But if you had seen news broadcasts in the same India - there wouldn’t be any questions about where such a panic would be.
    I declare how a person himself escaped at the last moment from there.

    If we had this kind of media trumpeted 24/7, then we would have already bought all the stores with buyers, and the most active would have dug bomb shelters.

    Speaking of India. People are different everywhere. The problem is in dense inland states. In the same Goa. Flooded by the descendants of the Portuguese, everything is much calmer. The innkeeper on the contrary sympathized. And in general, he was ready to give an opportunity to live yet, without payment. One fig complex is empty. And no one would be evicted from there. Since the police simply don’t go to them in their little Kitay Gorod. But it is in the cozy north. What is there in the fashionable south - I xs.
    1. rruvim 30 March 2020 16: 34 New
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      Just here everyone understands. We all get this COVIDOM. A common thing, for an ordinary pandemic. The question is what are the authorities arranging for the SHOW on this occasion?
      1. Avior 30 March 2020 16: 37 New
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        here is the problem
        some get sick, and some die.
        1. rruvim 30 March 2020 16: 43 New
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          No one will die. 12 people died on 1800 identified. Every person is sorry, especially if he is over 65. But I assure you, after Chernobyl, in our Central Clinical Hospital much more people died from incoming (almost all) due to cancer. And it was not the liquidators, ordinary people who simply turned out to be nearby.
          1. Avior 30 March 2020 19: 51 New
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            To compare the total number of sick with the dead is about nothing, before everything is over.
            Mortality in Moscow will be below average, this is obvious. In the meantime, the main sick - Moscow
            Doctors, too, are coping, while there are few cases.
            the average mortality rate in the world today is 1 dead for 4 recovered
            https://www.interfax.ru/chronicle/novyj-koronavirus-v-kitae.html
            But I assure you
            - common but meaningless phrase hi
            1. Vadim237 30 March 2020 22: 54 New
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              Not frail mortality from the disease 20%.
              1. Avior 30 March 2020 23: 07 New
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                until the pandemic is over, it’s impossible to say for sure that they die all the same faster in time than they recover.
                a new theory of explanation came across - supposedly morbidity and mortality associated with vaccination against tuberculosis
                in discussion
                “Let's talk about science”: scientists have found out which metal coronavirus COVID-19 is “afraid” of surfaces
                I brought a map
                well, as far as truth is known, it will be known much later
        2. balunn 30 March 2020 16: 46 New
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          Question. How many of us have died before from ordinary flu and tuberculosis?
          1. rruvim 30 March 2020 16: 55 New
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            Or from hunger? Or hawthorn poisoning? If you question the doctors “honestly”, they will say that of the 12 dead from coronovirus in Russia, half of those who died “worked” a heart attack, because they were intimidated. Scaring a pensioner to death is easy and simple, any psychologist will say. Especially when there are people around in the chemical protection complex and in respirators. Therefore, they began to squeeze through the media that people with cardiovascular diseases are most prone to death from the 19th. If it should be intimidated, the heart will work for wear ... even for Zinniks. And the authorities can do it.
          2. AU Ivanov. 30 March 2020 17: 19 New
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            "Normal" tuberculosis? A disease with a mortality rate of up to 20% cannot be common. But the flu is an interesting question. Death from pneumonia of influenza etiology is generally considered death from pneumonia, but not from influenza.
            1. balunn 30 March 2020 17: 31 New
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              Russia was considered one of the countries where there really is an epidemic of tuberculosis. But in the media, silence and silence as if he was not.
              1. Vadim237 30 March 2020 22: 57 New
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                It is possible to detect tuberculosis in an emergency mode for a company with a coronovirus throughout Russia - with it it is much easier to take pictures and analyzes that show whether it is sick or not.
  19. parusnik 30 March 2020 16: 50 New
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    But to draw the proper conclusions about the depravity of educating people in such a parasitic consumer approach to life itself is not only possible, but it was necessary yesterday.
    ... Yesterday, it was already, it was destroyed in 1991 ... To the delight of itself and the West ... A tired kiosker of a pharmacy kiosk, in our town, in the market, posted an announcement: "There are no gauze masks. From the word at all." The price of ginger increased five times. It was 210 -250 rubles. It became 1220 ... per kg, but it doesn’t sweep away ... This is on the market. It simply does not exist in chain stores ... Before the coronavirus, they almost did not buy it ... They considered it an amateur ...
    1. samarin1969 30 March 2020 17: 06 New
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      [quote = parusnik] [b] [quote] .... The price of ginger has grown five times. It was 210 -250 rubles. It became 1220 ... per kg, but it doesn’t sweep away ... This is on the market. It simply doesn’t exist in chain stores ... Before the coronavirus, they almost did not buy it ... They considered it an amateur ... [/ quote]

      About ginger is not a record ... According to the statement of the Minister of the Republic of Crimea, Ms. Romanovskaya, the price for ginger in the market exceeded 5000 rubles. People invent their mythical "antidotes." laughing
      1. parusnik 30 March 2020 17: 50 New
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        hi Greetings, Konstantin Viktorovich! ... I mean that everyone goes crazy in his own way, in the West in his own way, in our own way ... And what’s interesting is who the epidemic is, who the mother is close to ..
      2. Korsar4 30 March 2020 22: 42 New
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        Classic. To whom is war, to whom is mother dear?
  20. Ivan Kolodin 30 March 2020 17: 02 New
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    As the USSR collapsed, obscurantism was lucky from all the cracks, it’s better for us to do cities with icons and car icons and illuminate capitalism all over the world the direct path to the Middle Ages ....
  21. RitaNik 30 March 2020 17: 34 New
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    Take care of the Man in yourself.

    _ A.P. Chekhov
    1. rruvim 30 March 2020 17: 42 New
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      Person! Like the sun is born in my chest, and in a bright light it slowly walks - forward! and higher! tragically beautiful Man!
      _ Peshkov-Gorky
      1. rruvim 30 March 2020 17: 47 New
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        How lucky the authorities are that People never think.

        A. Hitler
  22. iouris 30 March 2020 17: 43 New
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    Che, a monkey can’t be called a "monkey", politically incorrect? Or "primacy" - is it for science?
    1. rruvim 30 March 2020 17: 51 New
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      Now a cat cannot be called a cat. I told a friend that I was quarantined with two cats in an apartment. And she was indignant: but they are cats !!! For me, just cats, for her some cats ...
  23. rruvim 30 March 2020 18: 44 New
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    The president:"In addition, the head of state demanded verified and professional actions in the fight against coronavirus, as well as to prevent local disruptions in the retail segment of trade and to harshly suppress any facts of speculation and unreasonable price increases. " But populism of pure water. How is he going "rigidly suppress any facts of speculation and unreasonable rise in prices"in retail. Are there mechanisms for this in our system? If Mishustin and Co., on the other hand, left VAT at 20%, which in itself implies an increase in value added to products, even basic necessities. After all, VAT has not been canceled (postponed) for Small and Medium business.
    1. rruvim 30 March 2020 18: 50 New
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      That is, now the tax authorities are interested in raising retail prices in small and medium-sized businesses, because VAT did not fall into the "holidays". And small and medium-sized businesses are mainly taxis and trade. How can he stop speculation if the VAT remains?
  24. Mestny 30 March 2020 19: 43 New
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    Quote: Svarog
    I am sure we would not have noticed any cataclysms in the USSR

    Undoubtedly.
    They would just die under the bravura speeches of the newspaper Pravda, which would write that the coronavirus is an invention of damned capitalism and a deception of the working people. But in the USSR everything is fine, no virus.
    As it was with Chernobyl for example.
    1. Essex62 April 1 2020 02: 07 New
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      Chernobyl claimed the lives of the liquidators and the people who found themselves in the contaminated area, mainly from oncology. And then the USSR was still there, but the miserable Cossack sat on the Kremlin stool, the worse it was, the better it was, in terms of fulfilling the assignment of the owners to work out a buzu in the country. You’ll hide such a thing, it would be very fun for silent authorities ..
  25. Lara Croft 30 March 2020 19: 55 New
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    In this light, there has been no civilizational leap since the Middle Ages.

    The grimaces of democracy .... empirialists, what to take from them ...
  26. A. Privalov 30 March 2020 20: 53 New
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    My dear people of the same land, as the number of infected people increases, the behavior of ordinary, quite healthy people will begin to change, and not for the better, alas. Be aware of this. Frightened by the danger of infection, people are prone to aggression and inappropriate actions. Many of the above "grimaces of capitalism", etc. "joy" you will see literally under your windows. Please be prepared for this.
    God bless you!
    1. Okolotochny April 1 2020 14: 07 New
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      Adequate comment. And then the article has already gathered supporters of all movements. And, interestingly, EVERYTHING is to blame. Some have panic in their heads and keyboards, while others (militant communists) have the opportunity to stick out their chests once again.
  27. Korsar4 30 March 2020 22: 41 New
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    The picture with monkeys is well suited for the annals of our time.
  28. Fuethe 30 March 2020 23: 07 New
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    Unfortunately, progress and people are not keeping up. The technological breakthroughs that we are seeing have done us a disservice. Instead of stimulating the development of all the best in a person, the most primitive is developing - consumption. We are all the miracles that have fallen on us, we take in the most primitive form, like beads for the Papuans, without thinking about the consequences. The greatest breakthrough - computerization completely demolished the ability of people to perform simple operations of both writing and computing ... The car gave us the opportunity to move quickly and took away the joy of communicating with nature on the road, we became vulgar consumers in everything and the fault here is not of corporations, they simply vulgarly exploited, the fault in ourselves. We went, and it couldn’t be otherwise, on the instinct of satisfaction, the simplest instinct. Bread and circuses are an eternal slogan. And when a person is deprived of the “achieved prosperity”, he instinctively tries to defend himself. It is in the nature of the animal .. But in the animal there is an animal and it is indestructible, it can only be compensated by the mind, but to be in the highest sense of Homo Sapiens, painstaking and lengthy work on a person is needed, the formation of a NEW MAN. A similar attempt was made in the USSR and showed the significance and importance of this. Unfortunately, with the fall of the USSR, this experience ceased. Well, what is happening everywhere is not surprising. The modern man is not ready for progress, not ready, like the whole of humanity as a whole .. And if something more serious happens than the far-fetched and hyped problem of Covid19, we will transmit each other in anger. But I believe in reason, nature is not so stupid as to create such a creature as man, the pinnacle of evolution on earth and make it only a rational beast. We must recognize ourselves. Find in ourselves that Divine that makes man a MAN. The path is long and difficult, on which everyone goes alone and all together. Otherwise, nothing. Otherwise, the end, the most terrible.
    1. Arthur 85 April 1 2020 15: 19 New
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      One must think that man is a "transitional link" to a perfect, machine life. “Finishing” us with our emotions, selfishness, autoimmune diseases, coccyx and appendix will not work for Brahma either.
  29. .
    CONVENTIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I will give you the FOURTH (!) TENS (!) YEARS (!) CRUSHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    The first paragraph of the "Constitution ..." should be ONLY as follows:

    "EVERY EQUAL SHARE IN EVERY NATURAL RESOURCE" ©.

    https://maxpark.com/community/7668/content/7043133



    The trick is

    that the boundaries between the management levels are FLOATING!

    In difficult times, decisions shift

    to the upper levels and to the executive half.

    In good times, decisions return to lower levels

    and in the Representative half.

    For example, during the war management of a private enterprise

    (but not ownership) is transferred to the state.

    The company ceases to make a profit, but makes

    everything for the front, everything for the victory.

    After the victory and the restoration of the economy

    enterprise management is returned to the owner.

    Centralization must alternate with decentralization


    With this, it is not necessary to change the system!

    https://maxpark.com/user/632656317/content/2662755


    BECOME PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
    .
    1. Okolotochny April 1 2020 14: 08 New
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      Again, the orderlies forgot to close the room.
      1. Essex62 April 2 2020 09: 20 New
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        Indeed? Only a sick person can demand an equitable distribution of rent from the sale of natural resources? In this case, Norway is a big loony bin. It didn’t seem so to me, quite adequate and calm people, pleasant in communication, friendly.
        1. Okolotochny April 2 2020 16: 55 New
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          In this case, Norway is a big loony bin.

          Here is how? Do you distribute oil revenues in Norway? Or put in a separate Fund? The money of this Fund is also spinning, invested in various insurance and financial companies. And we have? NWF? And where are they being spent? Yes, the Crimean bridge is the same. Now, at such a time, where does the government get the money from? And if, at the suggestion of the populists, he was distributing? Now where would the reserves come from? And in Soviet times, oil and gas revenues came straight into the pockets of workers. Only my mom and dad, and other relatives did not feel this.
          1. Essex62 April 5 2020 07: 53 New
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            Exactly what is so. They are credited to citizens' accounts starting from birth. Limitations, only for spending there.
            But do not touch the Soviet Union. You can’t even imagine how much the state gave us in terms of social programs, price stability and a sense of freedom, self-awareness as a person, equal among equals and confidence in the future. All that is not and cannot be in the dense jungle of capitalism.
            And it was not based on oil and gas revenues. A powerful economy and a noble goal.
  30. Arthur 85 April 1 2020 15: 15 New
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    Tourism and professional sports, I repeat, should be banned as harmful phenomena. Singers mouth on the stage to pay no more than 10 salaries of a cleaning lady. With the money saved, build a city on Mars.
  31. Razvedka_Boem April 2 2020 06: 27 New
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    In 2006, Rockefeller said that the world was on the verge of a big change, it just needed a push - a crisis, an epidemic, or some kind of big catastrophe to establish a new order.
    Changes occur gradually and are invisible only to those who do not want to think about anything.
    Mass Management Technologies in Action ..
    1. Essex62 April 2 2020 09: 02 New
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      That is why it is vital and as soon as possible to build a steel fence from that side. And behind him, systematically and steadily form a new person.
      Creator and collectivist. The life position is my shirt closer to the body and my hut with the edge is to burn with a hot iron. What is needed for this, I think everyone understands.