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Trench truth Lukashenko

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Trench truth Lukashenko

Identification of Lukashenko



There is such a theme, widely known, vividly and convexly shown, for example, in the first film about Rambo. A hero who returned from the war and did not receive not only due recognition from society, but also did not find a place “in civilian life”. And much has been written and filmed about this, and the internal psychological conflict here is quite understandable. From the domestic one recalls a sad tale about a pilot, twice a hero of the USSR, who after the war relied on a bust in his hometown, but ... housing was not supposed.

For some reason, it was Mr. Lukashenko who actively played this role and actively (in a difficult situation for himself) raised the topic of “some trenches”. And about the fact that there were so many years ago. That way surprised and resentful: are you guys? We are with you ... Well, if the head of Belarus loves to try on the greatcoat of an old soldier, then I would like to answer on this topic.

In general, Alexander Lukashenko did not fight. And practically none of his entourage participated in any hostilities and did not intend to participate. This is so offhand. The partisan generation left a little earlier and neither Lukashenko nor his closest associates have anything to do with it. This moment must be indicated. It’s difficult, you know, to live in someone else’s glory, all the more so to claim it. In general, the generation of WWII veterans today has almost passed away.

The question is not whether it is good or bad - the absence of war veterans in the leadership of the Republic of Belarus, the question is that it casts doubt on all these “trench discussions”. It sounds strange. No, since the time of the Roman Empire itself, it was very popular to begin the career of a civil servant as a grassroots commander in the legion. It was so. It was impossible otherwise. All this is understandable, even on an emotional level: if you love the Motherland so much that you simply cannot live without a state duty, then why not take part in hostilities?

And the military uniform looks beautiful, especially the general's or marshal's. What can I say. But in itself it is incapable of giving heroism. In general, all this tinsel in the absence of real military merit is able to give a Latin American comedic hue.

Belarusians are peaceful people? Perfectly. Then why this topic in general lift up? To what? A lot of post-Soviet and foreign leaders do well without this topic in shaping their political image (which of European politicians flaunts parades in general or marshal uniforms? Who from Asian developed countries?). And they feel great at the same time. I understand that the “old man” is impressed by the image of a rude, honest and straightforward old servant, but the whole trouble is that from this standard set of traits Lukashenko has, in the author’s opinion, only rudeness.

Excellence Lukashenko


As a matter of fact, this is exactly how they are constantly trying to file it in Russia. Yes, rude, yes, harsh, but straightforward, but loyal and honest. Say, many do not like the bitter truth told in person, and all that. The image, of course, is powerful and collective, the trouble, perhaps, is that Lukashenko himself does not actually correspond to this image. The man is completely different.

There is no “honesty and straightforwardness” in his personality. Originally. As a matter of fact, this is precisely why the author trusted Trump or Obama, Poroshenko or Yanukovych much more. They simply did not try to pretend to be what they were not. “Saying not quite the truth” is one thing, it’s important to portray a completely different person (and even believe that you are one) —this is something else (I immediately want to check the documents and clarify the facts of the biography). Strictly speaking, taking into account its capabilities, Russia had even more “trenches” than the late USSR. Much more. Two bloody wars in Chechnya. The attacks. Numerous terrorist attacks, terrorist attacks with massive casualties.

The attack on the peacekeepers in Ossetia, the war of the "Three Eights." The war in Syria and the Donbass. And each time, according to the words of political scientist Suzdaltsev, in a difficult moment for Russia, we had the good fortune to watch the Belarusians quickly running for cover. Then, when the situation "settled down", Mr. Lukashenko again arose "out of nothingness" and began to make very smart, very bold and very harsh statements. With such peasant bluntness, without any diplomatic equivocations there.

The problem is that to find him at the time of the enemy attack was categorically impossible (master of disguise and conspiracy). As a matter of fact, literary masters usually sometimes reveal a character through one bright event, where his (previously not so clearly drawn) character plays with all colors and colors. So, for the author, a similar “event” was precisely the uprising of parasites in February 17th (!) And the flight of Mr. Lukashenko to the glorious city of Sochi.

“It’s just that Lukashenko loves executive and tough people who are ready to carry out strictly and precisely any order. Just such qualities are most inherent in the military, ”the political analyst said in a commentary to Naviny.by. “Lukashenko has always been good to security officials ...” [/ i]

It, of course, is all great, but why then (if you are so “military and tough”) at the fateful hour not to stay at home and not “leave the last cartridge for yourself”? One French politician of the era of the Revolution, calmly replied to the proposal to escape from certain death that "They do not carry away their homeland on the soles of their boots." One Byzantine empress in a similar situation stated that "purple is the best shroud." Alexander Grigoryevich, but why run so far and so fast? But no one had stormed the blackbirds?

In general, the most remarkable thing is by no means the ability to pronounce loud and bold words, the most remarkable thing is the willingness to answer for the consequences of these words. Feel the difference. Unconditional respect (regardless of the correctness and political orientation) causes a person who is ready, proudly raising his head, to die. This inevitably arouses respect.

And frank irony is caused by a character who, having been impudent, suddenly begins to panic in front of the threat of harsh reprisal (classic Ukrainian: “Well, what about us?”). You must be able to tell the truth in the eye, even if it is "fraught". If you put on such a beautiful shoulder straps. Mr. Lukashenko’s problem with the leadership of the state in his chosen incarnation of “a true colonel” is precisely the complete absence of “great personal courage”.

Exactly and no other way. In 2008, it was necessary to clearly and firmly, directly in the face of Mr. Medvedev, declare: "We will not recognize either South Ossetia or Abkhazia." Why was he so afraid of Dmitry Anatolyevich? Yes, of course, Medvedev is one of the most terrible figures in world politics, but, as they say, he took up his tug ... that is, he put on a beautiful military uniform of the commander-in-chief, made a strict expression on his face - please comply. An ordinary man, of course (especially in today's tolerant times), may not be obliged to meet the highest criteria of masculinity, but when choosing the role of a tough paramilitary manager, these exemptions, alas, do not work. It must be consistent.

And in 2015, when talking about the deployment of the airspace base in the Republic of Belarus, it was necessary to say very clearly that this option is not suitable for independent Belarus. Right at the talks in Moscow, right to Vladimir Putin, right in the face. Then there would be much less questions, and much more respect. But for this, apparently, that greatest personal courage was necessary. Instead, Mr. Lukashenko, returning home, suddenly declared that he knew nothing about any base, and a musical motive sounded from every Belarusian iron that, they say, we did not need any base.

That is, "personally in the eyes" for some reason he could not say. Is your throat dry?

The ultimatum of Lukashenko


Every time when insurmountable problems arise in negotiations with Moscow on economic issues, Mr. Lukashenko prefers to quickly move into the “trench theme”.

“Lukashenko lamented that Moscow benefits gas sales to the Germans, while Belarusians and Russians“ died in the trenches together ”(Naviny.by.) The problem here is precisely in the character of Mr. Lukashenko. “Joint trenches” took place before the formation of “independent Belarus”. And this practice of “joint trenches” was precisely decidedly stopped by Lukashenko. For 25 years of his glorious rule, “joint trenches” did not take place never.

It is understandable if Russia were a big Switzerland or some kind of analogue of the People’s Republic of China, that is, it wouldn’t be at war with anyone and nowhere. That is, there is a desire to visit “only trenches”, but trenches are absent as a class. But just these trenches in Russia over the past 25 years have been above the roof. Just during the reign of a tough, concrete and straightforward supreme commander in chief from "fraternal Belarus."

But somehow he was never seen in these same trenches. Fate laughed cruelly at Lukashenko: he really liked “war games” and “military-style”, liked to imagine himself a sort of “unrecognized hero of all wars” (teenagers of different ages usually do this). But he never got to the front. Not at all. Belarusians are peaceful people, and Russian wars are not their wars? Understand. But then it’s better to hide the marshal’s insignia in your pocket and do not voice the topic of “joint trenches”. And talk half a ton lower, and do not "poke."

Otherwise, some kind of caricature is obtained.

- I was not afraid and said that if, as it was always in stories, roughly speaking, Tanks will go from there to Russia, we will die here for Russia, and our people should be ready for this. Name at least one state that has openly declared that "we will die for Russia."

This sounded in 2006, that is, Lukashenko was so eager to “die for Russia” that he could not sit on a chair. And already in 2008, he suddenly changed his mind to die. And not only die, but even just provide political support.

You say that, first of all, Lukashenko is a cunning, cautious businessman, well aware of the benefits of his country? Absolutely no problem. It’s a normal life position. But then you need to behave accordingly, and make your face simpler, and do not clog the mustache, after all, not William the Second.

By the way, neither Hitler, nor Stalin (until the 43rd year), nor Mao, leading the great powers, during the great war in military (military uniform) uniforms. Although they had "trenches", God forbid, with overkill. But it was considered incorrect. And not one of the three leaders spoke in the style of "an old servant who does not know the words of diplomacy." By the way, de Gaulle was just walking around in uniform, being a brigadier general, but for some reason he talked with the electorate in the style of a provincial college professor, and not an old soldier who did not know words of love (although, of course, a Frenchman who does not know words of love is nonsense). The front-line officer, Kemal Atatürk (“Atatürk” is the father of the Turks), having led the state, took off his uniform, but even in a tuxedo he looked exclusively like a regular officer in a tuxedo (not wearing a man’s uniform).

It’s just completely incomprehensible why peaceful and neutral Belarusians are actively trying to put pressure on the topic of “front-line brotherhood,” while categorically not wanting to support Russia anywhere and in any way, neither politically, nor even more so militarily.

Excuse me, Alexander Grigoryevich, you have a different biography and a completely different character for the image of an old soldier to be convincingly played. And with such a mismatch of form and content, the effect is extremely comic. Tragedy turns into farce.

When a person is cautious enough in terms of personal security and with keen interest in large sums of money, such a purely army bluntness: "And to hell, I ask, this union?" - It does not look like courage, but like lack of culture. European politicians, as a rule, are not so expressed. Asian too. In general, in order to speak out as a General Swan (the head is a bone!) And to make it look organic, one must be General Swan. Then yes, and so no.

The trench truth is born in the trenches, and the front-line fraternity arises at the front. In luxurious residences, it is not customary to talk about such things.

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  1. Cowbra
    Cowbra 31 March 2020 05: 06 New
    +1
    Poroshenko or Yanukovych. They simply did not try to pretend to be what they were not.

    Well it is generally. For information, Porosenko vparivat voters, among whom, by the way, dofiga Afghanistan veterans that participated in the Union in the database. I just served in PeVeO, and a part near Aktobe was based. With whom he fought there is a mystery. Then it was even more fun - he told how he sent his son to the database in the Donbass, where a graduate of the British College of Economics commanded a mortar battery. But you don’t need to teach an gunner, much less an officer, there, a mine in the barrel, a pipe from yourself - and all through. He told these tales to depict what kind of patriot he was, like Stalin - they supposedly did not regret his son.
    And Yanyk is a clown at all ... After he wrote the word "professor" about himself in the questionnaire with a mistake - he is not a scam in any other way. By the way, he was nobody at all, gigolo ...
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 31 March 2020 08: 01 New
      +3
      Belarusians and Russians “died in the trenches together” (Naviny.by.)


      And what is he like that suddenly ? For what reason began to contradict himself?



      Or the next refrain will be: "The Belarusians were driven by force Stalin in the same trenches with the Russians "???
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    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 31 March 2020 09: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: Cowbra
      I just served in PeVeO, and a part near Aktobe was based.

      And in the penal battalion thundered, but the Old Man saved for money.
      1. Petrik66
        Petrik66 April 1 2020 10: 36 New
        +1
        penal battalion? maybe you mean disbat?
    3. Normal ok
      Normal ok 31 March 2020 18: 23 New
      -3
      Quote: Cowbra
      Well it is generally. For information, Porosenko vparivat voters, among whom, by the way, dofiga Afghanistan veterans that participated in the Union in the database.

      Give a reference please.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 31 March 2020 18: 55 New
        +3
        https://www.google.ru
        don't thank. Computer literacy begins with the basics!
  2. Grandfather
    Grandfather 31 March 2020 05: 09 New
    -25
    I see ... Lukashenko is a caricature, Putin is not a caricature. OK.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 31 March 2020 06: 16 New
      -10
      And what has Putin to do with it? In the article he is mentioned once ... the author of this article is a well-known "fan" of Lukashenka, from this point of view it is necessary to consider him any reason, and for no reason, just let him walk around Lukashenka, no more
      1. Olezhek
        31 March 2020 07: 23 New
        11
        "admirer" of Lukashenka, from this point of view, and should be considered, he has any reason, and without a reason, just let him walk around Lukashenka, no more


        No matter how clear "militarism" and "" "directness" "" A.G. Lukashenko.
        Where is it from?
        On which fronts is he shell-shocked?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 31 March 2020 08: 03 New
          +8
          Quote: Olezhek
          On which fronts is he shell-shocked?

          In political "battles".

        2. Tzar
          Tzar 31 March 2020 08: 35 New
          +4
          Good article.
          Quote: Olezhek
          No matter how clear "militarism" and "" "directness" "" A.G. Lukashenko.
          Where is it from?
          On which fronts is he shell-shocked?

          This image was beneficial to him at a key moment in his political career: during the collapse of the USSR, he helped to gain the confidence of the people and take power. And in the future he also went well, but the farther, the more he turns into a caricature.
          But soon the anniversary of Victory, for sure, the Old Man will again begin to give out great phrases about the trench brotherhood, but if something happens, the pragmatist will immediately turn on: “We are a small country, what's the use of our words? We can certainly show solidarity, but we will be imposed sanctions, and you will not compensate us for billions of dollars in losses ... Rather, you will compensate, but after integration, and we want to integrate only economically, but politically to be independent!
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 31 March 2020 10: 55 New
          +5
          Quote: Olezhek
          No matter how clear "militarism" and "" "directness" "" A.G. Lukashenko.

          Enough of our spinning legs, better kick strangers. There is tramp-macrono-merkel, and better of the Poles.
      2. Normal ok
        Normal ok 31 March 2020 18: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        And what has Putin to do with it?

        Yes, despite the fact that the leadership in PR-y confidently holds GDP. He flew on a fighter and storks led into a brighter future, and he personally fights with coronovirus. It remains only to personally show the Russians how to solve demographic problems)) video XXX (18+)
        1. Olezhek
          31 March 2020 18: 40 New
          -3
          D It remains only to personally show the Russians how to solve demographic problems)) video XXX (18+)


          Pitrosyan log in wassat
        2. Slon379
          Slon379 31 March 2020 22: 01 New
          +7
          It has the right, does not change shoes several times a day like Lukashenko.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 31 March 2020 08: 53 New
      -1
      Quote: Dead Day
      I see ... Lukashenko is a caricature, Putin is not a caricature. OK.

      For me, the most unpleasant thing is when they blame the authorities. Well, you yourself elected her, better keep silent. I did not elect the power, therefore I am silent. Although Lukashenko and Putin have one positive thing, look at their jackets, they don’t have orders, they didn’t fight and didn’t reward themselves (although they’re awarded women like Zhukov’s pieces of iron. I also love women, especially strangers). And Putin is more modest than Lukashenko, the uniform does not wear.
      1. dauria
        dauria 31 March 2020 18: 41 New
        -2
        And Putin is more modest than Lukashenko, the uniform does not wear.


        And the pilot, and the sailor, and the doctor, and .... a shy guy. True, on NTV (the old train before dispersal) after the death of Kursk, there was one short and succinct statement by the retired captain about putting on a naval uniform ... I remember. Well, his "image makers" know better, they are specialists. They know how many will vomit and how many will delight. While the balance is in favor of the "admired".
        1. Oleg Monarchist
          Oleg Monarchist April 2 2020 01: 08 New
          +2
          Dauria, did you serve in the army? Judging by your tantrum - no. Putin has a military rank - a colonel and comrades from organs in the army could wear any form.
          1. dauria
            dauria April 2 2020 02: 05 New
            +1
            Dauria, did you serve in the army? Judging by your tantrum - no.

            Well, you are hysterical. I served, and not only in Dauria. By the way, in the photo it is Dauria, the wife and the officers' house (DOS) "three deuces". 1984 year
            The "retouched" biography of Putin did not impress. But actions with “dressing up” for the public and for photographers allow us to draw conclusions. Yes, there were special supervisors in the units. And you know? Putin is not like them. Weak, or something.
    3. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 31 March 2020 09: 01 New
      +7
      what burned, favorite icon criticized, potato and shrimp?
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 31 March 2020 11: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: Dead Day
      I see ... Lukashenko is a caricature, Putin is not a caricature. OK.

      Here the question is not even which of them is more a caricature, and who is a "still life". I'm just wondering why the topic is not dedicated to Gurbanguly Myalikgulyevich Berdymukhammedov, or Shavkat Miromonovich Mirziyoyev? The economic crisis, the political crisis, the epidemiological crisis, quarantine with self-isolation and here you have "Luka Grygorych Aleksandrov", do not eat it. We have 15 post-Soviet republics along the perimeter, with which, along the entire list of issues - sanctions-shmanctions, recognition of Crimea, South Ossetia and Abkhazia, the same result and interstate relations are an order of magnitude worse than with Belarus, but to Berdymukhamedov and Mirziyoyev ( further on the list of heads of republics) no complaints. No, Lukashenka, of course, has his own chest with flaws and I am not writing this as his lawyer, but I just have an interest in why the targeted work has gone so actively specifically in Belarus? Is it because a certain split that has emerged in the interstate diplomacy of Russia and Belarus should be expanded to the level of people's diplomacy and translated into interethnic grating?
      1. Olezhek
        April 1 2020 08: 26 New
        +4
        Here the question is not even which of them is more a caricature, and who is a "still life". I'm just wondering why the topic is not dedicated to Gurbanguly Myalikgulyevich Berdymukhammedov, or Shavkat Miromonovich Mirziyoyev?


        And they are somehow a little more honest than Lukashenko and do not climb into the best and last allies without soap.
    5. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny April 1 2020 09: 53 New
      +3
      I see ... Lukashenko is a caricature, Putin is not a caricature. OK.

      Show at least one photo from 2000 of Putin in uniform? And he remained in the same rank, he did not hang extra ones for himself, colonel of the security organs. Let's talk about your favorite communist leaders? Awards, titles? "Dear beloved Leonid Ilyich" - ended the war as a major general, died as MARSHAL. Though the Generalissimo was smart enough not to appropriate it. I generally keep quiet about awards.
      1. Jager
        Jager April 3 2020 00: 43 New
        -1
        Enough of the Siberian Cranes. I wonder how else will the PR be promoted in the next run? Will they be sent to space?
  3. passerby
    passerby 31 March 2020 05: 09 New
    12
    Lukashenko reminds me of cartoon characters, remember? - “Mistress, dangers awaited us at every step. Bullets whistled overhead. Please increase the reward »
    1. PCCP
      PCCP 31 March 2020 14: 52 New
      +5
      Bullets fly, bullets. Soldiers sit in the trenches.
      Bullets fly too fast. The commander gives orders.
      Our battalion commander cleaned up medals. He apparently wants to go on the attack.
      But he won’t go first. The sniper works fine.
  4. Catfish
    Catfish 31 March 2020 05: 44 New
    +5
    Well, their vans are pure caricature. laughing
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 31 March 2020 08: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: Sea Cat
      Well, their vans are pure caricature.

      I, too, have such an opinion
      1. Diverter
        Diverter 31 March 2020 22: 53 New
        +1
        ABOUT!!! I have ever worn this!))))
  5. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 31 March 2020 06: 39 New
    10
    Excellence Lukashenko

    I read this subtitle and smiled.
    The superiority of Lukashenko as the superiority of Bourne.
    This Hollywood character, too, for a long time could not understand who he was.
    Superman or victim ...
    For me, Lukashenko is an objective reality. It’s quite positive.
    Imagine in his place Stanislav Shushkevich. or, God forbid, Oleg Trusov, chairman of the Belarusavai Mova Tavarstvo (Belarusian Language Partnership), which opposes the creation of a Russian Culture Center in Brest.
    Lukashenko did not let his henchmen steal his country.
    He pressed home-grown Chubais and Gozman to his fingernail.
    Now we accuse him of "double-dealing".
    Maybe so it is. But he is not our president. He has his own troublesome economy.
    But just imagine what would happen if the galloping crowds of young people with pans without their heads walked the streets of Minsk all these years?
    Chilly back ...
    1. Olezhek
      31 March 2020 07: 25 New
      +1
      For me, Lukashenko is an objective reality. Quite positive


      Never trusted people who play a double game.
      And here it’s even more likely triple ...
      1. qQQQ
        qQQQ 31 March 2020 09: 26 New
        +5
        Quote: Olezhek
        Never trusted people who play a double game.
        And here it’s even more likely triple ...

        Yes, there are no honest politicians, if suddenly this happens, then their age is not long. This circumstance may outrage, but this is a medical fact. Tell me at least one who would do what he said. As an example, head on the rails, retirement age, everyone won, import substitution and much more.
        1. Olezhek
          31 March 2020 21: 08 New
          0
          Yes, there are no honest politicians, if suddenly this happens, then their age is not long.


          1 A politician (like a businessman) cannot speak exclusively the truth.
          It does not happen.
          2 Saying not quite the truth and playing a double game are two different things.
          Feel the difference.
          1. qQQQ
            qQQQ 31 March 2020 21: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: Olezhek
            Telling the whole story and playing a double game are two different things.

            Yes, everyone leads both double and triple games. This is a life where the right of the strong rules, so everyone turns as he can, it’s good if for the good of the state and the people living in it. Probably the last knight without fear and reproach was King Arthur (he did not see, only heard).
            1. Olezhek
              April 1 2020 08: 25 New
              +2
              Yes, everyone leads both double and triple games. This is a life ruled by the right of the strong,


              Yah?
              An example from the world of Anglo-Saxons: Trump does not play a double game, he rushes to China with a heavy bulldozer.
              And in domestic politics, he is like a heavy bulldozer.

              Боrice Johnson! - he rushed rhinoceros from the European Union
              without any options.
              What are the "double games", where are the "double games"?

              No stamps needed.

              so everyone turns around as best he can


              But the fact that everyone is spinning as best he can and everything around is scum and oligarchs - so this is just national Belarusian idea!

              but only yours.
              1. qQQQ
                qQQQ April 1 2020 09: 11 New
                0
                Quote: Olezhek
                But the fact that everyone is spinning as best he can and everything around is a bastard and an oligarch is just the national Belarusian idea!

                Trump, Johnson, they have the image of straightforward politicians, but I very much doubt that they are such when the Anglo-Saxons were honest and decent? Everything is clear with the Belarusian idea, I don’t deny that the Old Man is spinning like a frying pan, but these are the problems of our negotiators, if they are so narrow-minded that they are being said, but there is a point that in many moments Belarusians are right and most of the agreements on an equal footing. My idea is that all politicians are approximately the same, and ours (I have nothing to do with Belarus, I saw only from the train window in the distant 80s), Lukashenko is no better. Just resources allow you to conduct a more confident policy.
    2. Igoresha
      Igoresha 31 March 2020 11: 05 New
      +2
      Imagine in his place Stanislav Shushkevich
      not long left


    3. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 31 March 2020 15: 44 New
      0
      From the article:
      “Excuse me, Alexander Grigorievich, you have a different biography ,,,,”
      “In general, Alexander Lukashenko did not fight. ,,, ”

      Many of our generation did not fight. But our fathers and grandfathers fought…. Which we are really proud of! And we honor their memory !!! They are still in service - Our "immortal regiment"
      The past. no matter how far it is from us. always with us. It shapes our present and our views and actions ... our vision of our future ...
      .
      1. Oleg2003
        Oleg2003 31 March 2020 17: 14 New
        -1
        And who fought with relatives of Lukashenko? Nobody knows his relatives, he’s ok (born out of wedlock), the last son is ok, whom you read as commander of the Republic of Belarus. How can you not laugh at this country?
      2. Olezhek
        31 March 2020 18: 41 New
        +3
        Many of our generation did not fight. But our fathers and grandfathers fought .... of which we are truly proud!


        But this is not a reason to cling to others' epaulettes ...
    4. valton
      valton 31 March 2020 17: 06 New
      -2
      Lukashenko did not let the Western henchmen steal his country because he considers the whole country to be his PERSONAL property! There is something kulak in this.
    5. cmax
      cmax 31 March 2020 18: 41 New
      -2
      Paul Siebert .... Come on you exaggerate. 5000 young Belarusians study in Poland, 2500 in the Czech Republic, also in Germany, France. You can imagine (East or West) they will support. Almost all young people are in the BPF and they are not pro-Russian guys. Western Belarus will soon be 50% off with a Pole card. And who has been kicking Belarus for 26 years. Nothing to imagine, everything is already there.
    6. Allax
      Allax April 3 2020 11: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      For me, Lukashenko is an objective reality. It’s quite positive.

      If you look at the realities of today, you are certainly right.
      If you look at the future, the situation resembles Ukraine: where Kuchma was better for us than Kravchuk and Yanukovych was better than Yushchenko, but it was under them that the nationalist leprosy that hit Ukraine on the Maidan grew up. And now under Lukashenko, it’s not just one of me who has the impression that something about the same thing happens in Belarus
  6. yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 31 March 2020 06: 47 New
    +4
    Lukashenko, Putin, Nazarbayev, what can I say, the dictators of the post-Soviet era, power for them is the source of life and political inspiration, but I would like for each of them to reward history according to their desires, and the Lord God according to actions.
    1. Olezhek
      31 March 2020 07: 32 New
      -4
      Lukashenko, Putin, Nazarbayev, what can I say, dictators of the post-Soviet era


      There it was expressly stated that even Hitler in military uniform didn’t walk along the Wolf’s Lair and did not express himself in the style of the old front-line soldier. Like Mao.
      That is a little about something else.
      Not about dictators.
      1. yuliatreb
        yuliatreb 31 March 2020 07: 52 New
        +1
        I don’t argue, I read the text, expressed my point of view and nothing more.
      2. vvvjak
        vvvjak 31 March 2020 09: 20 New
        +8
        Quote: Olezhek
        There it was expressly stated that even Hitler in military uniform didn’t walk along the Wolf’s Lair and did not express himself in the style of the old front-line soldier. Like Mao.

        Are you in all seriousness putting Lukashenko, Hitler, Mao and Stalin on a par?
        And a couple of questions for the author
        And each time, according to the words of political scientist Suzdaltsev, in a difficult moment for Russia, we had the good fortune to watch the Belarusians quickly running for cover.

        and more
        It’s just completely incomprehensible why peaceful and neutral Belarusians are actively trying to put pressure on the topic of “front-line brotherhood,” while categorically not wanting to support Russia anywhere and in any way, neither politically, nor even more so militarily.

        Why are these phrases about the people of Belarus? If you are going to debunk Lukashenka's "personality cult", what have the Belarusians to do with it?
        I am not a fan of AHL (to put it mildly), but here you can already see a sketch of the substance on the fan.
        1. Olezhek
          31 March 2020 09: 44 New
          -8
          Are you in all seriousness putting Lukashenko, Hitler, Mao and Stalin on a par?


          Lukashenko simply has no equal in all world history!
          it is incomparable! fellow
          Those three - his miserable shadow and pale likeness ...
          1. vvvjak
            vvvjak 31 March 2020 09: 51 New
            +4
            Quote: Olezhek
            Lukashenko simply has no equal in all world history!

            It would be funny if it were not so sad. Incidentally, I live here.
      3. qQQQ
        qQQQ 31 March 2020 09: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: Olezhek
        There, it was specifically stated that even Hitler in military uniform didn’t walk along the Wolf's Den

        Now the ball is being set by PR specialists. You might think there are few leaders in the world who look ridiculous in their chosen image.
  7. tatra
    tatra 31 March 2020 06: 52 New
    18
    I have always been for Lukashenka, but after he said that the Patriotic War of 1812 and the Great Patriotic War were not "our wars", he joined the ranks of the anti-Soviet-Russophobic clique that hates the history of our country and slanders our history. And for me Lukashenka no longer exists.
    1. comradChe
      comradChe 31 March 2020 09: 46 New
      0
      What Putin do you attribute to a clique? Unless of course the memory is given to you.
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    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 31 March 2020 08: 53 New
      0
      Do not have a bad habit of mixing color and hot. A specific conversation is about Lukashenko’s attitude to matters concerning us. And here Gref and others, this is a completely different topic, which has nothing to do with papolekoli. Here we will discuss it separately.
    2. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 31 March 2020 09: 09 New
      -5
      I love limited by one character, mixing the ratio of 2 countries and the work of commercial banks ... all in one boiler, porridge and sawdust. moreover, one of these countries is an eternal beggar with a give free giveaway preamble to the constitution campaign
  9. svp67
    svp67 31 March 2020 07: 05 New
    +5
    Did you have to insert a photo of the Sokolov killer at the end of the article? What is the point?
    "All in one trench"
    It is so, that's just "cells", in this trench everyone has their own
    1. Olezhek
      31 March 2020 07: 27 New
      +1
      Did you have to insert a photo of the Sokolov killer at the end of the article? What is the point?


      To create a comic effect.
      What happens when a civilian begins to cling to himself epaulettes and accelerants ...
      As for the killers ... there are questions for the Belarusian leader ...
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 31 March 2020 08: 39 New
        -1
        Sokolov before, when he talked about Napoleon and France in general, he gave the impression of a mentally not quite healthy person, whose war is a complete romance. But even he wore a uniform only on the corresponding events.
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    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 31 March 2020 08: 40 New
      -1
      In essence, are there any objections? No.
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    3. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 31 March 2020 09: 12 New
      -9
      not everyone in the past got stuck, like some forever whining in the USSR
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  12. parusnik
    parusnik 31 March 2020 08: 11 New
    +3
    Lukashenko, he turns as he can with both ours and yours ... Here, take, there intercept, suck in someone something or someone else ..
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 31 March 2020 11: 05 New
      -2
      Quote: parusnik
      Lukashenko, spinning as best we can and ours ...


      To Rostov? For permanent residence?
  13. EvilLion
    EvilLion 31 March 2020 08: 30 New
    -1
    As for the trenches in the PRC, there are, in general, enough problems that turn, if not into a war, then into "shooting". The same Uyghurs, or recent "riots" on the southern border, with Cambodia, or Burma / Myanmar, we are not very interested, we are not following.
  14. Humpty
    Humpty 31 March 2020 08: 35 New
    0
    Quote: Insurgent
    Or the next refrain will be: "The Belarusians were forcibly driven by Stalin into the same trenches with the Russians" ???

    As they say - do not spit in the well, fly out - you will not catch. It was rather an appeal of the Belarusian bazaar to the Kazakh bazaar. So he wanted to plant a bream. At the expense of profitable oil for themselves to agree. But Kazakhstan offered to supply oil on MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL conditions.
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 31 March 2020 08: 48 New
    0
    Qualitatively, the author of the Belarusian Enerelisimus rolled out. There’s nothing to complain about. good
  16. hound
    hound 31 March 2020 09: 09 New
    +5
    At first I was surprised by the tone, but I saw the author and everything fell into place. Offended, if you complain that someone is not responsible for your words, then such questions should not arise for you. Therefore, shut your mouth and never put an equal sign between Belarusians and Lukashenko.
    1. SNEAKY
      SNEAKY 31 March 2020 10: 22 New
      +5
      good What a fun! Here I am a Belarusian Belarusian real. And what? The people are not worthy of their president? Yes, through one, give me a little power and arrogant everyone is born
      As for Russia, the inhabitants of the republic have a complete symbiosis with the head. It’s always to look at the Russians’s mouth, but it’s better to know for themselves where anyone steals, is inactive, always rules, etc. In his own eye there’s not even a log lost, but somewhere a highly moral western aircraft carrier group, which will soon liberate Belarusians from savages from the east, has settled in the deep brain, and the European Union will beg for entry into Belarus.
      Maybe where I'm wrong? Correct pliz.
    2. Oleg2003
      Oleg2003 31 March 2020 17: 24 New
      0
      Do not put a sign, then? He lived in the BSSR and the Republic of Belarus for 45 years, and left 6 years ago. And why? Of the 25 doctors of the department, there were 2 inadequate ones - a Pole and a Ukrainian, who believed that Russia owed them their lives. The others were laughing at them. After 6-8 years, Lukashenka began to believe that Russia owes them ALL (!), Karl. So do not say that equalize Luke and the people do not. Pamyarkovnya for Luke gradually built
  17. Moss
    Moss 31 March 2020 09: 31 New
    +2
    Good article ... That's just "... Belarusians are actively trying to put pressure on the topic of" front-line brotherhood ", while categorically not wanting to support Russia anywhere and in any way ..." It is not advisable to confuse the opinion of Belarusians and the AHL ... In Belarus, much less admirers of Lukashenka than in Russia. For some reason, from Russia it seems that the promised land is right here, order and cleanliness (yes, like in a morgue), the Soviet heritage is preserved and multiplied, business is flourishing, etc. and so on ... So I want to say - come, open your business, live , and then we'll talk ... Let's talk about many things that can only be seen from the inside, why business is actively dumping into Russia, the Czech Republic, Poland from this "paradise". And the article is good, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 31 March 2020 11: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: Moss
      Here are just "... Belarusians are actively trying to put pressure on the topic of" front brotherhood ", while categorically not wanting to support Russia anywhere and in any way ..." it is not desirable to confuse the opinion of Belarusians and the AHL ...

      Yes, we would be glad. Here is just one of the most common responses to criticism of the AHL (right after "put things in order first and then criticize") is an "criticizing the AHL, you criticize the whole brotherly Belarusian people". In short, people and party are one.
      1. Nirag013
        Nirag013 April 12 2020 10: 42 New
        0
        "Die, Denis, you can't say better!" laughing
  18. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 31 March 2020 09: 48 New
    10
    The idea of ​​the article is clear, but the situation of recognition of the Republic of Belarus and Abkhazia and South Ossetia has not been disclosed. Lukashenko explained the whole situation at the same time - there was a direct question to Medved - whether he would compensate for the economic losses that would undoubtedly follow after this political act. The bear did not respond at all. In this case, Lukashenko had no choice - he is responsible for his collective farm, and not for the Caucasus region. So what about the recognition of these republics - all the questions for Dimon.
    1. SNEAKY
      SNEAKY 31 March 2020 10: 42 New
      0
      lol And here again 25! And do not you think friendly (fraternal) gestures solely for material gain are somewhat sensitive as social? Or is it customary to live like this in our republic?
      Suzdaltsev mentioned by the author in the last article correctly formulated the thought. There is a skew. Not the child now owes to the mother, for giving birth, but on her feet, but on the contrary, because no one asked her about it ...
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 31 March 2020 10: 56 New
        +2
        And how would he explain to his population why their economic situation worsened after the demonstrative recognition of the independence of these republics? There was such a Romanian leader - Ceausescu, so he paid all the external debt of Romania, but he could not explain to his people that electricity for several hours a day is for the good of the country. In Romania, after the coup, it did not get better, but Ceausescu did not care.
        1. Olezhek
          31 March 2020 20: 57 New
          -3
          And how would he explain to his population why their economic situation worsened after the demonstrative recognition of the independence of these republics?


          But nothing: 2010-11 - after the non-recognition of 2 republics in the North Caucasus
          Belarusian economy has entered a peak.
          Bel ruble fell three times.
          But no one explained anything to anyone.
          just ironed with batons dissatisfied

          Yeah, there is such an honest, honest dad and just does not find a place:
          How will I answer to the Belarusian people?
          Well, how? request
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 31 March 2020 23: 25 New
            0
            Who is ironed there? Similar in spirit to our bulkers and pan-lads? So Old Man was one hundred percent right. It is necessary to root out this infection mercilessly, until this pan is put on the whole Republic.
        2. Slon379
          Slon379 31 March 2020 22: 16 New
          0
          Now he explains without problems, but then he could not?
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    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 31 March 2020 13: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Aviator_
      Lukashenko explained the whole situation at the same time - there was a direct question to Medved - whether he would compensate for the economic losses that would undoubtedly follow after this political act.

      And, excuse me, then, until 2008, Belarus received money from the budget of the Russian Federation? For beautiful eyes? smile
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 31 March 2020 14: 26 New
        -1
        Would it really be better if the budget of Belarus was filled from the EU? Chechnya, for example, is a subsidized region, but it’s better to pay Kadyrov the Russian Federation than ISIS.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 31 March 2020 15: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: Aviator_
          Would it really be better if the budget of Belarus was filled from the EU? Chechnya, for example, is a subsidized region, but it’s better to pay Kadyrov the Russian Federation than ISIS.

          Chechnya is a region within the Russian Federation. And she participated in 08.08.08, and in the return of the Crimea. Yes, and in Syria noted.
          If Belarus wants to receive money as Chechnya, let it become the same region of the Russian Federation. Or at least does something in return for this money - except for blackmail by going to the West. And how to take money from Russia - so brotherly peopleand how Russia asks for something in return - so do not dare to put pressure on a sovereign state.
          And do not scare the departure of Belarus in the EU and NATO tanks near Smolensk. We already have NATO tanks already 140 km from the second largest city in the Russian Federation.
        2. Olezhek
          April 1 2020 07: 36 New
          +2
          Would it really be better if the budget of Belarus was filled from the EU?


          Yeah - the whole planet just wants to fill the Belarusian budget.
          Dreamers.
      2. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 31 March 2020 22: 38 New
        -1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Quote: Aviator_
        Lukashenko explained the whole situation at the same time - there was a direct question to Medved - whether he would compensate for the economic losses that would undoubtedly follow after this political act.

        And, excuse me, then, until 2008, Belarus received money from the budget of the Russian Federation? For beautiful eyes? smile

        And so, in the budget of the Russian Federation was a penniless article for Belarus?
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA April 1 2020 13: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: Skalendarka
          And so, in the budget of the Russian Federation was a penniless article for Belarus?

          ... from 2000 to 2010, the level of annual financial support of Belarus or the shortfall of income of the Russian Federation in our economic relations ranged from hundreds of millions of dollars to 2-3 billion, and now it is 5-6 billion per year
          © Interview with Russian Ambassador to Belarus Mikhail Babich to RIA Novosti on March 14, 2019.
          Despite all the hysteria caused by this interview in the Belarusian Foreign Ministry, not one of the figures of the Foreign Ministry was denied.
    4. valton
      valton 31 March 2020 17: 22 New
      +1
      Having such an ally and enemies is not necessary.
    5. Oleg2003
      Oleg2003 31 March 2020 17: 31 New
      -1
      If you are only responsible for your collective farm, then sit there, do not lean out. And buy fuel at market prices, and do not beg for a discount, so that later you can drive the processed products to the West. Let me ask myself a question: what white goods do Belarusians buy for themselves (except for products)?
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 31 March 2020 17: 51 New
        +1
        It would be nice if our leadership was also responsible "for their own collective farm," and not for the oligarchic one.
        1. Olezhek
          31 March 2020 21: 03 New
          -3
          It would be nice if our leadership was also responsible "for their own collective farm," and not for the oligarchic one.


          Where will you be from?
          belay
      2. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 31 March 2020 22: 36 New
        0
        Quote: Oleg2003
        If you are only responsible for your collective farm, then sit there, do not lean out. And buy fuel at market prices, and do not beg for a discount, so that later you can drive the processed products to the West. Let me ask myself a question: what white goods do Belarusians buy for themselves (except for products)?

        Personally, I myself buy shoes, watches, underpants, socks ... continue?
    6. Olezhek
      31 March 2020 21: 05 New
      -4
      Lukashenko explained the whole situation at the same time - there was a direct question to Medved -


      Who is "Medved"?
      Again sparkling Belarusian humor?
      So he is not quoted in Russia.
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 31 March 2020 22: 32 New
        -1
        Medved is a Russian politician known for his 2015 aphorism: "No money, but you hold on." In Crimea, this aphorism has sunk very deeply into the soul of the population.
    7. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny April 1 2020 10: 01 New
      +3
      So what about the recognition of these republics - all the questions for Dimon.

      Interesting. And to answer for words, that if necessary, then in one trench we will die? It's not meant to be? Balabol? Or we will die (maybe), but will you pay for it? Doesn’t resemble people with low social orientations?
  19. cniza
    cniza 31 March 2020 09: 48 New
    +6
    “Joint trenches” took place before the formation of “independent Belarus”.


    You can’t argue with that ...
    1. novel66
      novel66 31 March 2020 10: 46 New
      +4
      yes, Victor, yes ... a pity hi
      1. cniza
        cniza 31 March 2020 10: 51 New
        +5
        Greetings! hi

        It’s a pity the wrong word, we very upset our ancestors, we don’t need it so much in front of their memory, we need to correct these errors faster.
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      1. cniza
        cniza 31 March 2020 11: 10 New
        +1
        You either have a bite or sleep ...
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          1. cniza
            cniza 31 March 2020 11: 27 New
            +2
            It's like you fled to other trenches, after the collapse of the USSR, only Belarusians should not be touched.
            1. www3
              www3 31 March 2020 11: 36 New
              +3
              I’m just in Belarus and I live.
              and all relatives in the union in the north worked.
              and we don’t remove the red flag, unlike ...
              1. cniza
                cniza 31 March 2020 11: 41 New
                -1
                So happiness to you, and the flag can be removed and hanged, not in it, but in conscience and honor ...
                1. www3
                  www3 31 March 2020 11: 44 New
                  +3
                  Quote: cniza
                  So happiness to you, and the flag can be removed and hanged, not in it, but in conscience and honor ...

                  so you answered yourself))
                  about memory and honor in relation to their ancestors.
                  when you close the mausoleum in parades and bashfully hide the red stars!
                  and all there to teach someone.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 31 March 2020 11: 54 New
                    +1
                    Read my post above and do not fool me, no one will teach you anything ...
                2. NordUral
                  NordUral 31 March 2020 11: 59 New
                  +4
                  No, Victor! The flag is a symbol of faith, conscience and honor.
                  They slipped us Vlasov and we humbly accepted him.
                  But for myself, I returned the real flag of Russia - red, with a sickle and a hammer!
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 31 March 2020 12: 13 New
                    +2
                    Eugene, history is a very instructive science and school, but it must be considered not only in fragments and in some short intervals, but in a long continuous time, and then you can see what matters led to what results ...
                    1. NordUral
                      NordUral 31 March 2020 12: 17 New
                      0
                      I do it, Victor. And the most amazing and outstanding period of our country, as a state, is the pre-war and war and post-war years.
                      Lied and destroyed, unfortunately, like the state of the Soviet Union itself.
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 31 March 2020 12: 24 New
                        +3
                        And before, did not find anything interesting?
                      2. NordUral
                        NordUral 31 March 2020 12: 54 New
                        -2
                        It was, I do not argue, but I'm talking about the peak of our history, Victor.
                      3. cniza
                        cniza 31 March 2020 13: 05 New
                        +3
                        There is no dispute, in order to get the peak of our history, in your opinion, there should have been some reason and attendant circumstances ...
                      4. NordUral
                        NordUral 31 March 2020 14: 30 New
                        -1
                        The motive has long been ripe. And you need to return to socialism, everyone screams about it. Naturally, taking into account the experience of the past and present.
                  2. Essex62
                    Essex62 31 March 2020 23: 39 New
                    0
                    And what was interesting there? The Russian peasant won victories for the master, laying his bones for the interests of the bakers, in not always righteous wars, remaining humiliated and insulted. Everything has changed with the construction of socialism in a single country. And the Vlasov flag in front of the Red Banner of Victory, at the May 9 parade, is nonsense. The cunning bourgeoisie came up with a win-win move, creating scrapes nasty in meaning. After all, the state of workers and peasants had seized her to death and it was them who defeated Berlin.
            2. EvilLion
              EvilLion April 1 2020 08: 13 New
              +2
              And where did the Vlasovites get it? The Russian Empire. For you, RI = Vlasov?
              1. NordUral
                NordUral April 1 2020 13: 14 New
                -2
                Somehow, crawling on the network, I came to understand that the real Russia ended with the advent of the Romanovs.
                And revived with the Soviet Union. And then she was defeated again, and by the efforts of internal enemies.
                And they handed us this flag not at all of Russian power. So this is not my flag.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 31 March 2020 11: 55 New
          -1
          And well done you Belarusians!
          1. EvilLion
            EvilLion April 1 2020 08: 14 New
            +2
            That's when they say that they do not need anything from Russia, then they will be well done. And already every year I’m tired of watching the circus with the visits of Ryhororych.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral April 1 2020 13: 07 New
              0
              Everything is not so simple here, but Luka needs to be determined, although we ourselves too.
        3. Pushkar
          Pushkar April 1 2020 13: 31 New
          0
          Quote: www3
          and we don’t remove the red flag, unlike ...

          And the guards tape is banned, like the Immortal Regiment. By the way, you only have a red flag at the Museum of the History of the Great Patriotic War (by the way, we don’t have that either, to our shame).
          1. Sklendarka
            Sklendarka April 1 2020 13: 54 New
            0
            Quote: Pushkar
            Quote: www3
            and we don’t remove the red flag, unlike ...

            And the guards tape is banned, like the Immortal Regiment. By the way, you only have a red flag at the Museum of the History of the Great Patriotic War (by the way, we don’t have that either, to our shame).

            Who told you such nonsense ?, no one forbade anything.
            Under the ban, Bel / Chyrvona / Bel and you know why ... ??? Interested in your version.
            1. Aleksandr56478
              Aleksandr56478 April 1 2020 16: 40 New
              0
              where did you get the idea that Belarus is white-red-white banned?
              1. Sklendarka
                Sklendarka April 1 2020 16: 59 New
                0
                Quote: Aleksandr56478
                where did you get the idea that Belarus is white-red-white banned?

                And you take the flag in your hand and walk through Minsk ... and I have been traveling with St. George's for years. Well, our sunrise over the swamp does not poke me around.
                1. Aleksandr56478
                  Aleksandr56478 April 1 2020 17: 07 New
                  0
                  I don't see any problems in Minsk, or in other cities of Belarus, people walk around with BKB flags, and in cars on the front panel, and on the back panel, I see it very often. They come to football with flags. Moreover, you can freely buy the attributes of "pro-Westerners". I don't know where you got this information from.
                2. Sklendarka
                  Sklendarka April 1 2020 17: 12 New
                  0
                  Quote: Aleksandr56478
                  I don't see any problems in Minsk, or in other cities of Belarus, people walk around with BKB flags, and in cars on the front panel, and on the back panel, I see it very often. They come to football with flags. Moreover, you can freely buy the attributes of "pro-Westerners". I don't know where you got this information from.

                  For soccer ?, walk around the city? Well, well, maybe in this form
                3. Aleksandr56478
                  Aleksandr56478 April 1 2020 17: 19 New
                  0
                  juggle unconvincingly. Just because of people like you, different speculations and fantasies are born in relation to the country. And then they tell on every corner in Russia that in Belarus, Natsik people beat and go torchlight processions. I simply stated the fact that there is no ban on the attributes of the oppositional BKB in Belarus, nor is there a rule of law that can attract opposition attributes to be worn, stored or distributed. hi
                4. Sklendarka
                  Sklendarka April 1 2020 17: 32 New
                  0
                  For the use of, as you say, `` symbols '' it is precisely the AK RB that is attracted, for storage no.
                  And once again about football, on the weekend the next tour. Let's take a look on TV and if at least somewhere we see Bel / Chirvon / Bel, I’m ready to put you a bottle of Armenian cognac, and if not, you will publicly (on the site) admit that are right.
                  About me, I live in Minsk (born in Vladarka, which is opposite the prison) Do you accept my offer?
                5. Aleksandr56478
                  Aleksandr56478 April 1 2020 17: 49 New
                  0
                  about myself: I was born in Grodno, I live in Minsk in Borovlyany. The dispute could only be objective if we were present at this match in person, because I believe that there would even be flags on the podium, then by office. They wouldn't be shown on TV. And a reference to the article of the Administrative Offenses Code of the Republic of Belarus, please, it seems that you are confusing the wearing of extremist and Nazi paraphernalia, to which white-red-white and the pursuit do not fall (at least not yet). On "Freedom Day" (if you are from Belarus, you should know what kind of gatherings it is), did the police guard the crowd with such attributes, or do you want to say that the police officers (the KGB officers were sure) did not fulfill their official duties?
                6. Sklendarka
                  Sklendarka April 1 2020 17: 56 New
                  0
                  Yes, you are right on “Freedom Day” and on “Charnobyl Way” and for many other things they wear bel / chyrvona / bely and ... all this is filmed, and then summoned to court on a summons.
                  You are asking me about the article in the Administrative Offenses Code - `` there was a man, but there is an article ''
                7. Aleksandr56478
                  Aleksandr56478 April 1 2020 18: 06 New
                  0
                  I can tell you that they are being summoned (the organizers and the asset, which is registered with the territorial police department and the KGB, and which can be identified afterwards by video materials) (by the way, in Grodno last year, this action was agreed on and held with the permission of local authorities) and are prosecuted on completely existing grounds and articles, namely "for organizing unauthorized marches and rallies", but not for attributes. But the point is that oppos are not attracted for attributes. We just approached what I was talking about at the very beginning and said that the attributes of oppos are not prohibited in Belarus. It was nice to talk to you, all the best to you. hi
                8. Sklendarka
                  Sklendarka April 1 2020 18: 13 New
                  +1
                  All the best, good health to you and your loved ones ...
  • www3
    www3 31 March 2020 11: 38 New
    0
    I then watch a lot of fans here to discuss Belarus, and never once there)))
    1. cniza
      cniza 31 March 2020 11: 43 New
      +4
      Yes, they are not discussing Belarus, but its President or politicians, with the proviso that this is your business ...
  • NordUral
    NordUral 31 March 2020 11: 57 New
    -1
    Ivan! We are with the people of Belarus. And we will deal with these, the time will come!
  • Oleg2003
    Oleg2003 31 March 2020 17: 36 New
    0
    Belarusians ... And who is it? Until 1918, they were not even suspected of such
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 31 March 2020 22: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Oleg2003
      Belarusians ... And who is it? Until 1918, they were not even suspected of such

      You that specifically called the Alga ????
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 31 March 2020 13: 45 New
    +5
    Quote: www3
    and what after that they disappeared somewhere?

    Yes. Now it's every man for himself: "All these wars are not our wars."©.
    But at the same time Russia should ©.
    Quote: www3
    or do you have a memory like that of a guppy - the mausoleum is curtained, new stars are drawn and now only you defeated the guitar?

    And what does the joint victory of the peoples of the USSR over Nazism in 1945 have to do with today's AHL desires to receive $ 5-6 billion annually from the budget of the Russian Federation, while doing nothing in return?
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 31 March 2020 10: 24 New
    -3
    And where to put a minus? Indeed, if the name of Lukashenko is changed to another, it will be the same, and maybe worse.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 31 March 2020 11: 07 New
    +1
    Only this Chanel has long been eaten by a moth - and so the dictator should be on the throne no matter what.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 31 March 2020 11: 54 New
      -2
      237th, who are you talking about?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 31 March 2020 16: 03 New
        +2
        Guess yourself.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 31 March 2020 16: 11 New
          -1
          Also a mystery to me.
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      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 31 March 2020 16: 21 New
        -2
        It is interesting that at the same time he will screw Putin out of power, or all the same in all ways.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 31 March 2020 11: 26 New
    -2
    Lukashenko is a team. And always someone more intelligent dad corrects when he promises Russia.
    1. Olezhek
      31 March 2020 21: 03 New
      -1
      Lukashenko is a team. And always someone more intelligent dad corrects when he promises Russia.


      Maybe it is, maybe someone corrects it (it is possible).
      that's just - where did they taxis as a result?
      Where to?
  • Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 31 March 2020 11: 45 New
    +4
    And each time, according to the words of political scientist Suzdaltsev, in a difficult moment for Russia, we had the good fortune to watch the Belarusians quickly running for cover. Then, when the situation "settled down", Mr. Lukashenko again arose "from nonexistence" and began to make very smart, very bold and very harsh statements. With such peasant bluntness, without any diplomatic equivocations there.

    Is it not clear that first a big and mighty Russia should declare its position and then it should get the support of its friends. What if Russia will be on the side of the United States and NATO as to Iraq in 1991, to Afghanistan in 1992, Yugoslavia in 1999, in the "war on terrorism" in 2001, in Libya, in the sanctions against the DPRK and so on. What to do then? Russia should be the first to state its position and then receive support.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 31 March 2020 17: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: Kostadinov
      What if Russia will be on the side of the United States and NATO as to Iraq in 1991, to Afghanistan in 1992, Yugoslavia in 1999, in the "war on terrorism" in 2001, in Libya, in the sanctions against the DPRK and so on. What to do then?

      Do not go under coconut palms when coconuts ripen and fall. Along the way, one of them hooked you cool. If something in your comment matches the above, it’s joining the sanctions against the DPRK, which China did as well, but there is, as it were, our interest regarding security on our Far Eastern border.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 1 2020 08: 16 New
      -1
      There was a war on 8.8.8. Russian tanks went to Tbilisi ... As a result, we received an order: "Enough to beat these", we recognize South Ossetia, Abkhazia, whoever does not agree, he knows where to go. What other positions do you need?
    3. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny April 1 2020 10: 05 New
      +2
      I.e? Like in the movie "Green Van", when Volodya Patrikeev played football, and policeman Grishchenko, twisting Mannlicher, said like - you go ahead, and I'll cover you from the rear !!! Like, come on, Russia, with! And we'll see who wins and "give up our life" for that.
    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 1 2020 14: 00 New
      +3
      Quote: Kostadinov
      Is it really not clear that first a large and powerful Russia should declare its position and then it should get the support of its friends.

      So in 2008 and in 2014 Russia directly and unequivocally stated its position. And how - did she get support from her friends after that? Or just thoughtful discussions about the fraternity, accompanied by the next demands of money? wink
      These are not friends, but some dependents.
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  • iouris
    iouris 31 March 2020 12: 03 New
    0
    And I believe in Belarus "from sea to sea". Psaki did not make a reservation.
    1. Vadim777
      Vadim777 April 1 2020 08: 33 New
      -1
      Once in history it was already - the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. You have a chance to revive him.,.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 1 2020 14: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      And I believe in Belarus "from sea to sea". Psaki did not make a reservation.

  • Radikal
    Radikal 31 March 2020 13: 00 New
    +1
    The trench truth is born in the trenches, and the front-line fraternity arises at the front. In luxurious residences, it is not customary to talk about such things.

    And the photo of the killer at the end of the article, as confirmation of these words? winked
    1. g_ae
      g_ae 31 March 2020 16: 01 New
      +1
      And the author has another acute attack of Lukashenko studies, weighed down by the epidemic of coronovirus. And generally speaking. It makes no sense to wait for logic from a character who opens a cloak in front of women. Here is a similar case. Clinical.
    2. Olezhek
      31 March 2020 18: 36 New
      -2
      A photo of the killer at the end of the article,


      Do all the other photos have clean hands?
  • divanka2021
    divanka2021 31 March 2020 17: 31 New
    +1
    another office youngsters cheto asikeitis on the screen,
    I respect Lukas, at least he worked on a collective farm, and you?
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 31 March 2020 22: 04 New
      -1
      Is that feuilleton ?. Well, not prohibited. And the author, who is he?
      It is not known. And Lukashenko is the President of the country. And them, if
      throw back Tatarstan and Turkina-faso all sorts of, 150 (Karl-150 !!!) on
      of the planet, out of 7,8 billion (4 billion men). And you say, chairman
      collective farm. Would Americans or Putin talk with the collective farmer.
      Finely, about a cap, about cowards at a dimon ... shame on you.
      1. Olezhek
        April 1 2020 08: 34 New
        +2
        of the planet, out of 7,8 billion (4 billion men). And you say, chairman
        collective farm. Would Americans or Putin talk with the collective farmer.


        Do you know what is the most annoying for me?
        Azerbaijan has taken place as a state. And Aliyevs are worthy leaders.

        The same can be said about Kazakhstan and Nazarbayev.
        Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan took place.

        No one called the Aliyevs or Nazarbayev collective farmers.
        No one laughs at either Kazakhstan or Azerbaijan.

        But with Ukraine and Belarus came out a complete fail.
        Well, who would have thought of this in 1991?
        I would never have believed it!

        Circus on the dart
        1. Kushka
          Kushka April 1 2020 17: 07 New
          +1
          Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan - and there and there oil and gas.
          Not much, as in Saudi Arabia, but by the same Aliyev
          with a head (enough for grandchildren too)
          Ukraine was "born" in debt (huge debts), which
          Kravchuk and Yeltsin have been painted for decades.
          Those. the example is not correct - Aliyev has a son, oil and gas, and
          Kravchuk has a son and the debts and debts of his son.
          Well, then - the party organizer / director "rocketman", prisoner,
          beekeeper / zavsberkassoy, huckster / son of huckster well
          and the clown and as a result DEBT. The circle is closed.
  • Kushka
    Kushka 31 March 2020 18: 56 New
    +1
    If you don’t feel sorry for your time, but for a stranger, the language itches,
    you can throw all your public oratory on the king of all animals yes
    emperor of birds, yes from this height they will attack skunks, or for example,
    on the turtle. Well "fu" and again "fu" - but nothing that the turtle is already
    a couple of million years AS IS.
    Lukashenko IS and is such as IS. And blah blah blah, it's just
    blah blah blah.
  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 31 March 2020 21: 25 New
    +1
    Good old tradition: pour a bucket of shit on the dad. One would like to ask: why are you throwing the seeds of hostility between us and Belarusians? After all, everything will be asked. And I respect Old Man. It stands for the country.
    1. Lekz
      Lekz 31 March 2020 22: 39 New
      +3
      Sure, not a problem. Standing for the country is worthy of respect. Only this is not a reason to get business oil.
  • Sova
    Sova 31 March 2020 21: 31 New
    +2
    Photos from the infamous Sokolov Oleg Valerievich in the article are somehow out of place
  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 31 March 2020 22: 17 New
    +3
    Mr. Oleg Egorov, you are faithful to yourself, as always. Today I will not talk about compote.
    Our president had a very interesting phrase about which you do not know, or maybe you have not heard. It sounded like this - "my father died in the war (VO) ..." and it was printed in the newspaper "Sovetskaya Belorussia" years so 10/15 back. I give the idea, you can be further perverted, because you already have a clinic.
    I would like to appeal to visitors to the site — many articles are published here, interesting and not very; cognitive and ... not entirely understandable.
    Two or three years ago there were very interesting discussions, interesting debates, and today ... today, the more shit you pour on a neighbor, the better, is it true Olezhka ???
    The question is, I live in Belarus, I am a Belarusian, Lukashenko is my president (maybe a bastard, but the step is a Belarusian bastard) and who gave you Olezhek the right to mock Luka and us? There are no problems in Russia ?, the whole `` middle class '' orgasms from zeroed activity?
    After today's little article, one thing is clear, Olezhek, that you are self-insulated and self-satisfied, that is. masturbation. Look, the hair on the hands will grow
    Sorry, friends, everything written above applies personally !!! to the writer ???, to a bunch of ideas to the masses.
    I have not read the comments yet, but I will respond to more interesting ones.
    All health and do not get sick ... with respect.
    1. g_ae
      g_ae 31 March 2020 22: 41 New
      +1
      What are you discussing with him. In every social community, there are miserable, holy fools, city lunatics turned by the roof on some subject or idea. This author is a similar character in the framework of VO. You can quickly look at all of his materials. Well, it’s pointless to talk to him. In response, there will be spitting and throwing kakahami. Apparently in childhood, a man who was bald and mustached scared. Or the parent (bald and mustachioed too) was bobbing. As a result - a complex and a phobia for life. Here he is sickly and spills out everything on the pages of VO.
    2. Diverter
      Diverter 31 March 2020 23: 09 New
      0
      Support.
    3. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 1 2020 08: 19 New
      -2
      And why is it so sausage about you, Mr. Russia Oleg Egorov does not love your president? We here in Russia do not give a damn what savagery thinks of us in the navel of the world, the USA. Or maybe Oleg is still right, but nothing offends so much as the truth.
      1. g_ae
        g_ae April 1 2020 08: 47 New
        +1
        Not "you" but "you". I do not remember that we herded someone together. But after what sincere joy and exultation this individual expressed when a woman died as a result of an accident in Minsk last year (despite the fact that tragedies and more terrible accidents occurred in Russia both before and after), refer to dazibao g -on Egorova, as to articles of an adequate and morally healthy person is meaningless. And then, a real citizen of Russia first needs to try to put things in order in his country (there is already where, to what and to whom he can apply his writing talent), and then he can denounce, teach and burn someone with a verb outside the Russian Federation.
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion April 1 2020 12: 25 New
          -3
          I don’t remember that Egorov was concerned about accidents in Belarus. The jabs "first put things in order" can cause nothing but laughter. If Rygorych behaves like a clown there, and the main source of income is our subsidies, then there should be no misunderstanding of who can ask whom.
          1. g_ae
            g_ae April 1 2020 14: 31 New
            0
            Yes, here the president and I were not lucky. She doesn’t drive Lada Kalina and Kamaz, doesn’t dive in the bathyscaphe, doesn’t fly with Siberian Cranes, doesn’t climb a humpbacked mountain with a friend, and doesn’t visit the hospital in a bright spacesuit. Not at all serious. Like a clown.
  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 31 March 2020 22: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: cniza
    So happiness to you, and the flag can be removed and hanged, not in it, but in conscience and honor ...

    Sorry, did you serve? or flat feet?
    Why am I ?, but maybe you either say:
    Part banner
    Military battlefield
    Oath
    ?????
  • Diverter
    Diverter 31 March 2020 23: 05 New
    +1
    There is an expression that if you criticize a person, then first you need to put on his boots and go through his path. I also think that criticizing a person is necessary only for one who is on the same level. Because if one is lower, then pride and snobbery, and if one is higher, then envy is at least. today, White Russia lives better than Kievan Rus, which means the Head steers correctly and in the interests of HIS state. Another question is that Brother and Sister fought off the family, someone more someone less. But here we ourselves are a little to blame. Remember our ambassadors in Kiev, it was people sent there as a link, partly because the result is this. Again, despite their huge problems of the 90s and 2000s, it was necessary to strictly influence their spheres of influence, but to whom? a drunkard with thieves? And How? share loot ?, so little by yourself !!! Etc. The top need to work on this issue. The issue of unification of Russia, White Russia, Kievan Rus. And all will be well.
  • Vadim777
    Vadim777 April 1 2020 08: 17 New
    -2
    He threw the cacao at Lukashenka, the fellow now only got dirty himself when he took this cacao in his hands. Let me explain - reading this article about the "trenches of Belarusian officials" everyone immediately has a parallel with Putin's immortal regiment
    1. Olezhek
      April 1 2020 10: 38 New
      -1
      I threw kakahu to Lukashenko,


      The first patient with COVID-19 died in Belarus. There is no quarantine in the country, cafes and movie theaters are open, the football championship continues. Lukashenko considers coronavirus a “psychosis”

  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka April 1 2020 11: 27 New
    +3
    Quote: Olezhek
    I threw kakahu to Lukashenko,


    The first patient with COVID-19 died in Belarus. There is no quarantine in the country, cafes and movie theaters are open, the football championship continues. Lukashenko considers coronavirus a “psychosis”


    And what ??? ,, ... we won the war, Kaltebruner married a Jew? ... "(Muller / seventeen instant ....)
    Olezhek, I’m watching, but still the water still doesn’t hold in the ass ...
    Stop riding a helmet on a rover ...
  • Pushkar
    Pushkar April 1 2020 13: 10 New
    -1
    I completely agree with the author of the article, all the time I argue on this topic with my classmate from Bobruisk, a big fan of the AHL. One thing I didn't understand, why at the end of the article is a photo of a vile maniac "historian and reenactor" from St. Petersburg? After all, Lukashenko is president fraternal Belarus.
  • Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 April 1 2020 18: 31 New
    -2
    It is one thing to have holes from orders in a tunic, another thing is bullets. Lukoshenko clearly prefers the former.
    1. g_ae
      g_ae April 1 2020 18: 51 New
      +4
      So he does not have orders on his tunic, judging by the photograph. But pay attention to the iconostasis of Shoigu and his military generals. What merits are interesting? Somehow, too, not with bullets. Why doesn't it bother you?
      1. g_ae
        g_ae April 1 2020 21: 57 New
        0
        It’s true that the acting Director of the Institute of Theoretical and Experimental Physics. Alikhanov appointed major general of the police, who was suspected of a bribe? Ah, what a passage! Tightly. Probably also an effective technocrade.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 April 2 2020 18: 34 New
          0
          Suspicion confirmed, he was convicted?
          1. g_ae
            g_ae April 2 2020 19: 34 New
            +1
            Himself not funny? Who are the judges? By the way, I thought that the fact that a retired policeman runs science does not bother you. Charming.