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Australian virologist calls pangolin an animal that "transmitted" coronavirus to humans

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In the section “Talk about science” it is proposed to discuss the publication of a group of virological scientists who are engaged in the analysis of the genetic code of the new coronavirus COVID-19. Studies are conducted on the basis of the decrypted genome of the coronavirus, which today infected (according to official data) almost 600 thousand people around the planet.


One of the representatives of the research team is the Australian virologist Edward Holmes, who works at the University of Sydney School of Medical Sciences. The main question that is being studied by scientists is as follows: if COVID-19 is a coronavirus that is characteristic of the animal world, then under what conditions could it be transmitted to humans.

Edward Holmes is the co-author of four papers on the new coronavirus, which have been published in major scientific journals since the beginning of 2020.

In one of his works, Dr. Holmes writes about monitoring the conditions under which coronavirus can be transmitted from animals to humans. According to the Australian scientist, the intermediate link that allowed the transmission of coronavirus to humans was pangolin. He is a steppe or Malay pangolin. This animal is from the order of placental mammals, the habitat of which is very extensive - from China in the east to Ghana and Liberia in the west. At the same time, the number of pangolins in the world is rapidly declining, primarily due to the fact that in a number of countries of the world they are considered as food, as well as as a source of various drugs for traditional medicine. So, in China and Vietnam, a substance is made from pangolin scales, which, according to local healers, "can be used to treat asthma and cancer." There is no clinical evidence of its effectiveness, but this does not reduce the demand for “substance”.

Professor Holmes writes that wildlife contains an incredible amount of coronaviruses of various types, which can appear in humans. One of such methods is the use of flesh and other parts of wild animals as food or as medical (pseudo-medical) preparations and cosmetics.

Holmes:

Surprisingly, pangolin viruses contain genomic regions that are very closely related to human viruses. The most important of these is the receptor binding domain, which determines how the virus is able to attach and infect human cells.

At the same time, Mr. Holmes with his colleagues (for example, with scientists from the American University of New Orleans) strongly declares that there is no talk of any “artificial synthesis of a new coronavirus”.

From the statement:

Coronavirus was not a technologically advanced biological agent. Using comparative analysis of genomic data, scientists show that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is not a laboratory construct or a targeted virus.

It is noteworthy that this statement contradicts an article published in Nature in 2015 (by the way, Edward Holmes himself is published in it). Then the material reported that a new virus was synthesized - as a combination of SARS and the respiratory virus of bats. And if this virus goes beyond the laboratory, then its distribution, as the author wrote, will be impossible to predict. Why did virologists generally need to synthesize such a “biological bomb”, no one really can answer yet.

Holmes claims that the COVID-19 genome allegedly "makes it clear that the new coronavirus is exclusively of natural origin."

Edward Holmes:

In fact, I have long warned that animal coronaviruses can be transmitted to humans sooner or later. This requires a combination of several factors, including the specific biological parameters of the carrier.

An Australian professor, together with Chinese colleagues, took samples of air and biomaterials from the Wuhan market and said that "it can be reliably said that coronaviruses have adapted to overcome the boundaries of biological species."

But while no concrete scientific evidence of his theory, including direct analysis of the COVID-19 genome, Holmes does not provide the public.

And in China, his articles were criticized, insisting that the Wuhan market has nothing to do with coronavirus infection, “for the reason that certain products of animal origin have been sold on it for decades, and until November 2019 did not cause any infections of this type” .

It is worth recalling that Beijing accuses the United States of the following: the new coronavirus was brought to China by American troops who took part in international army games. About two weeks after those games in China, the first local infection was diagnosed — the so-called “zero” patient.
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  1. Azazelo
    Azazelo 27 March 2020 17: 56 New
    +5
    who just didn’t go public at the end of the world .... well done
    1. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy 27 March 2020 18: 13 New
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      Yes, you just don’t have to eat our smaller brothers. They eat everything that moves indiscriminately, that's the result. request
      1. depressant
        depressant 27 March 2020 18: 29 New
        +8
        В начале каждого года выходит журнал "Форбс" с загадочными рисунками на обложке, и множество конспирологов пытаются истолковать предсказание журнала. В 2019-м в левом нижнем углу обложки был изображен панголин.
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 27 March 2020 19: 44 New
          +4
          А мне кажется , что в этих предсказаниях Ротшильдов есть глумление над "людишками" с их точки зрения мы "людишки , пыль , тлен " .. ... Если это правда . То this is a crime against humanity Here is the info. its from .https://anzor113.livejournal.com/2843.html , and here they leaked information from alternative experts ... http://alternathistory.com/epidemiya-koronavirusa-byla-predskazana-ili-initsiirovana-rotshildami-o-nej-oni-pisali-eshhyo-v-2018-godu/ recourse
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 28 March 2020 04: 21 New
            +4
            in these predictions of the Rothschilds
            Again the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Masons. laughing А если серьёзно, то это очень похоже на правду. Они существуют, этого не скрывают, всячески изгаляются (хотя бы намёками) и это непреложный факт. К тому же, в мире столько биолабораторий (в том числе и секретных), которые работают в первую очередь на военных, тех или иных стран, что в случайность мало верится. И дело вовсе не в публикациях пяти летней давности. Глядя на всю эту раскрученную истерию вокруг коронавируса, создаётся стойкое впечатление, что процессом управляет чья та твёрдая рука, по заранее составленному плану. Тут и желание списать накопившиеся мировые экономические и политические проблемы, на "форс мажор" и вполне понятное стремление (как некоторые говорят), провести "репетицию", перед чем то более глобальным и страшным . Всё может быть и почему то, лично я, склонен именно к этой точке зрения. Можно тысячу раз смеяться над "теорией заговора", но в наше время, практически уже нет неуправляемых процессов. Если что то происходит, значит кому то это очень нужно.
            1. maidan.izrailovich
              maidan.izrailovich 28 March 2020 06: 35 New
              +1
              Looking at all this untwisted hysteria around the coronavirus, a strong impression is created that the process is controlled by whose firm hand, according to a pre-compiled plan. Here is the desire to write off the accumulated global economic and political problems ....

              Definitely it is. And no options.
            2. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 28 March 2020 08: 10 New
              0
              Вы же понимаете , что информации , дают "утечь " не просто так ... А здесь bully given a leak in various alternative publications ... If they run into those who gave information for thought, then this is not serious !! Alternative history ... fellow And the brook has flowed! am Все эти мировые господа достаточно страшные люди ...Скажем так -"Всё человеческое им чуждо !"
      2. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 27 March 2020 19: 11 New
        +2
        But how can they not eat? After all, there’s a whole Billion!
        here they’re eating, whatever ...))
      3. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 27 March 2020 20: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
        Yes, you just don’t have to eat our smaller brothers. They eat everything that moves indiscriminately, that's the result. request

        Yes, they’re eating very little that moves, but also ... him.
        And such excesses will not bring to good lol .
    2. Malyuta
      Malyuta 27 March 2020 18: 59 New
      +5
      Quote: Azazelo
      who just didn’t go public at the end of the world .... well done

      Everyone wants to be celebrities and hype)
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 27 March 2020 19: 03 New
        +6
        PS
        According to Andy Warhol
        "Каждый человек имеет право на 15 минут славы." yes
      2. Albert1988
        Albert1988 27 March 2020 22: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: Malyuta
        Everyone wants to be celebrities and hype)

        А причем тут хайп? Человек просто озвучил результаты "скучных и неинтересных" научных исследований... О том, что вирус передался от пангалинов, кстати, было известно уже достаточно давно - этьи милые зверьки имеют очень сходные вирусы (по последовательности ДНК), зверьков жрали китайцы в огромных количествах и часто в почти сыром виде, в конечном счете, попался вирус с мутацией, позволившей ему инфицировать клетки человека, вот и пошло все...
  2. Labrador
    Labrador 27 March 2020 17: 57 New
    +1
    If this is the case, then the only thing that can be learned from this is to try to understand the mechanisms of the struggle of the organisms of these animals with the virus. And then only if the animals themselves do not die from the virus.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 27 March 2020 22: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Labrador
      If this is the case, then the only thing that can be learned from this is to try to understand the mechanisms of the struggle of the organisms of these animals with the virus. And then only if the animals themselves do not die from the virus.

      In animals, most likely, everything is simple - they have a couple of inverted genes of this virus in their genome that have been domesticated by their genome to suppress the penetrating virus through RNA interference. The virus penetrated into the cell, integrated into the genome, began to synthesize its own proteins, for which it is necessary to first synthesize ms-RNA, and here again, the viral m-RNAs complementary combine with the RNAs of inverted viral genes from the host genome, forming double-stranded RNAs that are recognized and cut into small pieces with special proteins ... Here is such a simple and understandable mechanism for protecting cells from viruses that have already penetrated!
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 28 March 2020 07: 14 New
        +1
        Reminds good old joke about the hydral allele wassat
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 28 March 2020 14: 27 New
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          Quote: vadimtt
          Reminds good old joke about the hydral allele

          Мммм, а вы, товарищ, никак из Питера? Просто у них традиционно слово "аллель" женского рода, а у Московской школы - мужского))))
          1. vadimtt
            vadimtt 30 March 2020 08: 24 New
            0
            No, I am an exception to the rule, i.e. from Moscow laughing Not only that, but also an applied mathematician hi
  3. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 27 March 2020 17: 58 New
    +5
    We all became virologists today. Hold on. Guys.
  4. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 27 March 2020 18: 01 New
    +2
    Yes, these animals in general .. as if not from this planet, as well as the platypus.
  5. knn54
    knn54 27 March 2020 18: 06 New
    -2
    Well, it’s clear, it’s worth saying that the Yankees are to blame for immediately banning entry, depriving of grants and much more, up to and including accusation for defamation.
    Have these dinosaurs been used for only a year or two?
  6. Operator
    Operator 27 March 2020 18: 08 New
    +2
    Австралийский ученый "доказал" - китайские и американские (из университета Северной Каролины) ученые, синтезировавшие коронавирус SARS-COV-2 в 2015 году, опубликовавшие соответствующую статью в журнале Nature и получившие американский патент на геном коронавируса, ошибались laughing

    Chinese attempts in 2020 to infect SARS-COV-2 with at least one animal species, including bats and pangolins, have so far failed.
    1. Zaits
      Zaits 27 March 2020 21: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Operator
      scientists synthesizing SARS-COV-2 coronavirus in 2015


      Well, where did you drag this outright lies?
      The chimeric virus created in 2015 is not SARS-COV-2. Experts have already talked about this, and have said it repeatedly.
  7. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 27 March 2020 18: 09 New
    +7
    An Australian professor, together with Chinese colleagues, took samples of air and biomaterials on the Wuhan market and said that “it can be reliably said that coronaviruses have adapted to overcome the boundaries of species” .- laughing Yeah. On June 19, the British Government-funded Pirbright Institute filed a patent for coronavirus, which was approved on November 20, 2018 by the European Patent Office under the number EP3172319A1. One of the sponsors of this institute is the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. https://youtu.be/6Af6b_wyiwI. Gates 2014 video. Pay attention to the picture of the already patented coronavirus. laughing
    1. Voltsky
      Voltsky 27 March 2020 18: 19 New
      +5
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Pay attention to the picture of the already patented coronavirus.

      Doesn't the whole corona virus family look like this? :)
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 27 March 2020 22: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Voletsky
        Doesn't the whole corona virus family look like this? :)

        And not only them! Viruses can be distinguished precisely only by PCR analysis or by complete sequencing of genomes with subsequent alignment of genomes against each other, that is, a letter-by-word comparison of DNA sequences! If there is a patent for such an artificial virus, then its sequence is known, so compare with the sequence of the current virus and voila ... Which, by the way, looks like. Australian scientists and did ...
    2. Amateur
      Amateur 27 March 2020 18: 26 New
      +2
      pirbright institute funded by the British government

      Это вам не контрафактный "Новичок" с "Гречка". Это
      patent from the European Patent Office under the number EP3172319A1
  8. ddmitrij
    ddmitrij 27 March 2020 18: 16 New
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    I just read about these pangolins and about the viruses they had yesterday. And it said that the coincidence of the genome of the pangolin virus and today's human virus ranges from 89 to 92 percent. And for the virus to be transmitted to humans, 95% is needed. So the Australian professor is stirring something up and is clearly trying to move the arrows. It has long been clear to everyone that the market in Wuhan is not a place for the virus to appear, but only a place for its spread.
    I am not a supporter of conspiracy theories, but the story with American developments is clearly murky and has a right to life. In addition, the United States has not yet reported exactly when they got the first infected.
    So for lack of other versions, the Americans for me at the moment are the main suspects. Hiley Likely!
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 27 March 2020 19: 14 New
      +2
      That's right. Americans are not able to prove their innocence in the appearance of this virus. So they poke a finger at the Chinese. Say, they are eating everything and hence the infection on the planet.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 27 March 2020 23: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Americans are not able to prove their innocence in the appearance of this virus.

        Exactly like involvement))))
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        So they poke a finger at the Chinese. Say, they are eating everything and hence the infection on the planet.

        It is from this that - a huge number of people who consume a large amount of exotic, unusual animal food, often without strong heat treatment - it is simply a paradise for viruses, since there is a high probability that a mutated successfully virus will end up in the human body and infect his.
        In India, by the way, this is not, therefore. that 95% plant food is eaten there - plant viruses are not transmitted to humans, and animal food there is very familiar and very rare for humans ...
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt 28 March 2020 04: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Say, they’re eating everything and from here, there’s an infection on the planet

        If they develop a virus that is transmitted through hamburgers, then the Americans are definitely khan. laughing Кстати вспомнил, у них уже были в этом плане проблемы, с "коровьим бешенством" (и даже с летальными исходами), именно через фаст-фуд. Так что действительно, в каждой шутке, есть доля шутки.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 28 March 2020 14: 28 New
          0
          Quote: orionvitt
          проблемы, с "коровьим бешенством" (и даже с летальными исходами), именно через фаст-фуд.

          Unfortunately, prions of mad cow disease are transmitted through any meat ...
    2. Albert1988
      Albert1988 27 March 2020 22: 59 New
      0
      Quote: ddmitrij
      I just read about these pangolins and about the viruses they had yesterday. And it said that the coincidence of the genome of the pangolin virus and today's human virus ranges from 89 to 92 percent. And for the virus to be transmitted to humans, 95%

      Уважаемый, такое совпадение геномов - "от 89 до 92 %" - для вирусов нормально, если учесть, что вирус сильно мутирует! То есть, если вы сравните вирус COVID-19 и аналогичные вирусы пангалина - то увидите эти самые "от 89 до 92%" , но если вы сравните между собой другие вирусы пангалина этой же группы, то увидите те же "от 89 до 92%"))) Вирус мутабилен, так что ничего подозрительного товарищ вирусолог не сказал. Собственно, эбола - вирус летучих мышей, но мутации дали ему возможность и человека инфицировать...
  9. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 27 March 2020 18: 20 New
    +3
    Australian virologist calls pangolin an animal that "transmitted" coronavirus to humans
    it’s understandable that dinosaurs were first from the cheva, and then the mammoths committed suicide.
  10. marshes
    marshes 27 March 2020 18: 23 New
    -5
    My opinion is from the Chinese lab in Wuhan.
    They solved a lot of internal Chinese problems, plus they denied the construction of oil storage facilities. They stopped auto production all over the world with cancer. They solved the problem with pensions and also One family has one child, they say that there will be no ill children.
    Those who have a blood type 2 have a high mortality rate in contrast to 1 or Asian 3, while panda blood 4 is rare in general to heaven, not 00 percent.
    So decide for yourself.
    1. Frol
      Frol 27 March 2020 18: 48 New
      +6
      Quote: marshes
      In whom 2 blood type high mortality in contrast

      Damn, I have a second ..
      Something you Swamps carried in the wrong steppe)) What is going on there in Kazakhstan? Probably you can safely go fishing (the caps of cops in the reeds will be gone?))))

      Ok Swamp do not be offended .. hi
      1. marshes
        marshes 27 March 2020 18: 53 New
        -4
        Quote: Frol
        Damn, I have a second ..

        For you, the Chinese have arranged such a menu, if we write, we will know.
        The second group has the highest incidence threshold of 26%
        I will remember!
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 27 March 2020 19: 16 New
          +2
          And if Rhesus negative? ...) Then what should I do?)
          1. marshes
            marshes 27 March 2020 19: 29 New
            -2
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            And if Rhesus negative? ...) Then what should I do?)

            There is no Rhesus factor.
            Just at those, the mother of Mari AV gets, although I do not live in the city, 200 meters, Where are the posts.
          2. Frol
            Frol 27 March 2020 19: 48 New
            +3
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            And if Rhesus negative? ...) Then what should I do?)

            Digging trenches and a Soviet gas mask with you .. soldier laughing
            1. Andrei Nikolaevich
              Andrei Nikolaevich 27 March 2020 20: 24 New
              +1
              I feel that with this virus, everything, Far Eastern hectares, will be snapped up.) You can even sit there, in a deserted place-))
              1. Frol
                Frol 27 March 2020 21: 28 New
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                Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                I feel that with this virus, everything, Far Eastern hectares, will be snapped up.) You can even sit there, in a deserted place-))

                Неплохо было бы ..У нас на Урале сколько земель плодородных пустует..Правда говорят их уже давно москвичи скупили и держат про запас.Денег им уже девать некуда ,запад уже не приниает Боятся этих прохиндеев и говорят они там "беженцев -воров" начали шерстить ,или если проще деньги у них отбирают и высылают из страны..))))
        2. Frol
          Frol 27 March 2020 19: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: marshes
          Quote: Frol
          Damn, I have a second ..

          For you, the Chinese have arranged such a menu, if we write, we will know.
          The second group has the highest incidence threshold of 26%
          I will remember!

          So these US laboratories do work and grow the virus precisely in genetics? Are you hinting at the swamps ..?
          Okay took note .. hi
          1. marshes
            marshes 27 March 2020 19: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Frol
            So these US laboratories do work and grow the virus precisely in genetics? Are you hinting at the swamps ..? Okay, took note ..

            It is commonly known with tape.
            On the other hand, if our biolab is very steep, then the final question could be resolved.
            At the very moment ..
            And then you got sick of catching our fish in our territorial waters.
            By the way Mikhan, stinking lake fish.
            I prefer Balkhash and Alakol, Kapchegay and OR.
            Did you take bream with a shovel? C took a week, for fishing rod. Networks are not sports.
            1. Frol
              Frol 27 March 2020 20: 14 New
              +1
              Quote: marshes
              It is commonly known with tape.
              On the other hand, if our biolab is very steep, then the final question could be resolved.

              Well, decide if you hope to stay at the gas and oil fields and industry donated to you by the USSR? Oh well
              Ah Bolot, it’s sad to hear all this from you .. But we are still friends ..

              So on fishing, hunting, and in another it was and should be .. hi
          2. marshes
            marshes 27 March 2020 20: 09 New
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            Quote: Frol
            So these US laboratories do work and grow the virus precisely in genetics?

            These are the Chinese, rather entertaining tweeters were from the Chinese embassy. And those who are to blame for the tweets and the arrows are lowered first.
            By the way, reading their tweets at the beginning of February was at a loss. The virus didn’t cover the country like last week, but they knew how. They detected it on social networks.
            Lovers of male love.
    2. Dog
      Dog 27 March 2020 19: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: marshes
      My opinion is from the Chinese lab in Wuhan

      She worked closely with colleagues from the states. They shared development, received materials from there.
    3. Albert1988
      Albert1988 27 March 2020 23: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: marshes
      They have solved a lot of domestic problems

      And even more created ...
      Quote: marshes
      They solved the problem with pensions and also One family has one child, they say that there will be no ill children.

      А еще говорят, что "Земля налетит на небесную ось!"(тм)
      Firstly, young people of reproductive age suffer very little from this virus, due to their powerful immunity, children are almost not exposed to prove that the virus affects the reproductive system - long clinical studies are needed, you can’t conduct them in a couple of months of the epidemic.
      Quote: marshes
      Those who have a blood type 2 have a high mortality rate in contrast to 1 or Asian 3, while panda blood 4 is rare in general to heaven, not 00 percent.

      This is generally a meaningless phrase - the blood type is in no way tied to a region or race, nationality, etc. Mortality is high exclusively in elderly people with weak immunity and weakened respiratory muscles, which causes pneumonia to become stagnant and develop fungal infections of the lungs, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, etc., that is, secondary infections that kill the body.
  11. Polymer
    Polymer 27 March 2020 18: 25 New
    +3
    This is some kind of wrong Holmes, his name is not Sherlock, and his conclusions are incorrect, most likely. IMHO - excuses his American colleagues.
  12. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 27 March 2020 18: 29 New
    +4
    Why only now did the virus want to go to a person, and for many millennia, when people ate much more on snakes, pangolins, etc., did not pass?
    Something does not fit.
    1. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 27 March 2020 19: 06 New
      +4
      Because beyond the puddle they decided
    2. Albert1988
      Albert1988 27 March 2020 23: 15 New
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      Quote: Kostadinov
      Why only now did the virus want to go to a person, and for many millennia, when people ate much more on snakes, pangolins, etc., did not pass?

      А кто вам сказал, что тогда он не переходил? Во втором тысячелетии до нашей эры были серьезные диагностические приборы и методики? ПЦР тогда делали? Кто вам сказал, что какая-нибудь популяция человека в древности не хватанула что-то похожее и не вымерла вся? Более того - с изобретением сельского хозяйства человек стал есть весьма ограниченное количество живых организмов и к их вирусам адаптировался. Более того - мутация вещь случайная, так что именно сейчас могла именно такая мутация и произойти... Более того, скажу вам, что случись такое веке в 19-м, то такую эпидемию списали бы на просто "сильную инфлюенцию", схоронили бы несколько сот тысяч человек по всему миру, и забвли бы успешно.

      Here's an example - biological weapons - Spanish flu! In 18 months (!) Up to 550 MILLION cases of illness all over the world !!!! This is 29% of the then population of the Earth !!!! up to 50 MILLION dead! That was a biological weapon !!! The Germans were probably invented in secret laboratories in the 18th year and released into the world in order to avenge defeat in World War I !!!!
  13. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 27 March 2020 18: 31 New
    +4
    Well, supporters of conspiracy theories can be congratulated on defeat, Prince Charles and Boris are not reptilians (lizards do not get sick) ... laughing
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    1. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 27 March 2020 19: 05 New
      +1
      Pangolin is just from the dinosaurs, so the continuity is just there
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 28 March 2020 00: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: rotkiv04
        Pangolin is just from the dinosaurs, so the continuity is just there

        Панголин, хоть и называется "ящер", увы, самое обычное млекопитающее..
    2. marshes
      marshes 27 March 2020 19: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Well, supporters of conspiracy theories can be congratulated on defeat, Prince Charles and Boris are not reptilians (lizards do not get sick) ...

      now at the very moment Prince Harry to visit his father, then to the woman and then to his brother laughing
  15. Frol
    Frol 27 March 2020 18: 40 New
    +3
    Coronavirus was not a technologically advanced biological agent.

    laughing Ну австралийские ученые ,как и британские...Дальше читать не стал.И так все понятно "стрелки переводят на кенгуру ")))))
  16. AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 27 March 2020 18: 43 New
    +4
    One fucked the monkey - millions have AIDS. The second gobbled up pangolin - get a coronovirus. We are waiting for a particularly advanced person to put some octopus in his ass. Die all.
  17. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 27 March 2020 18: 48 New
    +2
    Australian virologist calls pangolin an animal that "transmitted" coronavirus to humans
    Not, well, if they give more money, then he will prove that it was his mother who was offended by the whole world. request for the market, supply and demand. Yes, even from the penguins. fellow
  18. sledak
    sledak 27 March 2020 19: 00 New
    +1
    If the truth is about the patent, then all the signs of a crime are on the face. It is strange that neither in China nor in our country have they yet opened a case. Perhaps awaiting final research results.
    I think this article is very suitable for an Australian:

    Criminal Code Article 357. Genocide
    Actions aimed at the complete or partial destruction of a national, ethnic, racial or religious group as such by killing members of this group, causing serious harm to their health, forcible obstruction of childbearing, forced transfer of children, forcible resettlement or other creation of living conditions designed for the physical destruction of members of this group-

    As I understand the existence of this virus, there are new LIFE conditions.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 27 March 2020 19: 50 New
      +4
      О чём вы говорите?! Штаты и просвещенная европейская демократия раздолбали ближний Восток, а до этого ещё кучу стран..- и никаких следствий и международных трибуналов.. Все молчат в тряпочку... И тут будет то же самое.. Это ж не история со Скрипалями и не чай с полонием.. Лет через тридцать выдадут что-нибудь невнятное о "технологической ошибке" или о "непредвиденном результате эксперимента".. А с ученых какой спрос? Пожурят, головой покачают и простят.. Панголин у них виноват, ага... У нас полстраны прошлой зимой маялись с сухим кашлем и температурой.. - не сработал видать вирус, как задумывалось.. - а в Китай просто отрикошетило.. Опять же - идея о "золотом миллиарде" и остальных "лишних людях" на планете никуда не исчезла.. Мешает человечество расплодившееся сильным мира сего .. очень мешает..
  19. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 27 March 2020 19: 01 New
    +1
    Pendocnya filthy and sweeping traces of them sweep, all blame on the poor pangolins, but the Chinese will bring this filthy nation to clean water. And because the more these bastards over the puddle die, the better for humanity
    1. Masha
      Masha 27 March 2020 19: 35 New
      +6
      don’t worry so ... the virus has wandered .... and how the prodigal son returns home to the states ....
      came out on top in the number of patients with coronavirus ...


      1. nPuBaTuP
        nPuBaTuP 27 March 2020 19: 45 New
        0
        Interesting statistics are recovered from them ...
        1. rotkiv04
          rotkiv04 27 March 2020 20: 09 New
          0
          https://studylib.net/coronavirus[i][/i]
          There is a complete picture around the world.
  20. Operator
    Operator 27 March 2020 19: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    https://youtu.be/6Af6b_wyiwI.

    The appearance of the coronavirus does not mean anything - all coronaviruses look the same.

    A specific virus can be identified only by the sequence of nucleotides in its RNA, which is written in the form of the so-called genome and in this form is given in scientific monographs and patents.

    The synthetic coronavirus genome, for which an American patent was obtained in 2015, coincides with the genome of the coronavirus found in patients in the Chinese city of Wuhan and further around the world, starting in November 2019 (a few days after the end of the World Army Games in the vicinity of this city, one of the participants of which was the US team).
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 27 March 2020 20: 01 New
      +3
      That's how Amazon defeated E-Bey with Ali-Express ... And under the pretext of saving humanity, this very humanity is driven into apartments and rooms, cells and quarantine zones .. Quarantines are not a medicine and not a vaccine! A person needs to be ill so that antibodies and remedies for the disease begin to be developed .. Why do people get the flu every year? Because the virus mutates constantly .. Do you think that after serving two weeks at home locked up, you will develop immunity? No. You will go out onto the street and safely pick up the same infection .. Someone devastated the purification of mankind with devilishly sophisticated .. Old people and patients must die ..- young and healthy will remain .. pure Aryans, yeah ... And a little later the crown mutates, as it should be, it will start mowing the young and, in general, everyone .. And there, those who are stronger, will survive .. In the end, there is measles and smallpox and Ebola and SARS with Hong Kong flu ..
    2. Zaits
      Zaits 27 March 2020 21: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Operator
      The synthetic coronavirus genome, for which an American patent was obtained in 2015, coincides with the genome of the coronavirus found in patients in the Chinese city of Wuhan


      Again a lie. A complete decoding of the sequence of this synthetic coronavirus has never been published. And how did they find out that this is the same virus?
      1. Operator
        Operator 27 March 2020 21: 55 New
        0
        Damn, what do you think - you can’t get a patent for a dummy by definition.
        1. Zaits
          Zaits 27 March 2020 21: 58 New
          0
          Do you understand what I asked?

          And what does the dummy have to do with it? No one denies the creation of the chimeric virus in 2015.
          1. Operator
            Operator 27 March 2020 22: 07 New
            -1
            Do you understand what I answered (full decoding of the synthetic virus genome is published in the US patent)?
            1. Zaits
              Zaits 28 March 2020 12: 06 New
              0
              Proof, please provide. Namely, a link to the officials, where and how to get a complete decryption.
              However, it will be as always ...
              1. Operator
                Operator 28 March 2020 12: 16 New
                -2
                Records of the synthetic / detected genome of coronavirus patients on the Internet were heaped - the US Patent Office plus dozens of laboratories around the world happily reporting that they (once again) decrypted SARS-COV2 RNA.
  21. nPuBaTuP
    nPuBaTuP 27 March 2020 19: 42 New
    -1
    The new coronavirus was brought to China by US troops who took part in international army games.

    This is when there were games with mattresses?
    Yeah, I saw that in November ...
    But did mattresses take part in them?
    1. Operator
      Operator 27 March 2020 20: 41 New
      +1
      The World Army Games in Wuhan were held from October 18 to October 27, 2019, and teams from 109 countries, including the United States, took part in them.
      https://ruspekh.ru/events/vsemirnye-voennye-igry-2019-v-kitae

      The first Wuhan resident to have coronavirus (the so-called null patient) was discovered in early November 2019.
  22. Fishery
    Fishery 27 March 2020 21: 39 New
    -1
    the little animal avenged)) for the brothers)
  23. Operator
    Operator 27 March 2020 21: 56 New
    0
    Quote: Zaits
    Specialists have already spoken about this.

    Australian - hanging out laughing
  24. ddmitrij
    ddmitrij 28 March 2020 00: 02 New
    0
    Quote: Albert1988
    And who told you that he did not cross then?

    There is information that people do not have antibodies to this virus. If humanity had ever suffered from this in antiquity, then antibodies would have been.
  25. Klingon
    Klingon 28 March 2020 01: 45 New
    +1
    I worked with sick dogs infected with coronavirus gastroenteritis, 98% mortality. unlike parvovirus gastroenteritis, coronavirus is characterized by increased mucus secretion and hemorrhage (hemorrhage), which leads to exsycosis (dehydration) and anemia and ends with the death of the animal
  26. tomket
    tomket 28 March 2020 01: 57 New
    0
    Настораживает, когда кто то "решительно заявляет"Обычно все происходит с точностью да наоборот.
  27. orionvitt
    orionvitt 28 March 2020 04: 16 New
    0
    in a number of countries around the world they are considered as food, as well as a source of obtaining certain funds for traditional medicine.
    So healed, kapets.
  28. Mwg
    Mwg 28 March 2020 20: 08 New
    0
    "Австралийский вирусолог назвал панголина животным, «передавшим» коронавирус человеку" - классическая операция по прикрытию начинается издалека.