TsAGI has blown up the model of the promising transport aircraft "Elephant"

TsAGI has blown up the model of the promising transport aircraft "Elephant"

The first cycle of aerodynamic testing of the model of the promising heavy transport aircraft "Elephant", developed as a replacement for the An-124 "Ruslan", was carried out by TsAGI specialists.


Specialists of the Zhukovsky Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute purged a model of a promising aircraft in a wind tunnel, thereby confirming the design characteristics that were determined at the design stage. Checks were carried out in a wind tunnel of variable density T-106 at an air flow rate of 0,2 to Mach 0,85. The second model of the aircraft was apparently purged, since the first, assembled at TsAGI at the end of last year, was without tail unit.

As previously reported, the design of the latest transport aircraft "Elephant" began in 2016 by order of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia. The project involves the creation of an airplane according to the high-plan scheme with the possibility of loading through the bow. The data on carrying capacity vary - from 150 to 180 tons, flight range up to 7 thousand kilometers, speed - up to 850 km / h. Four new PD-35 turbofan engines with take-off thrust of 343,2 kilonewton should be installed on the aircraft.

It is known that the length of the new transporter will be 82,3 meters, height - 24 meters, and the wingspan - from 87,1 to 88,3 meters, depending on the version. The maximum take-off weight of a promising transporter will be from 490 to 499 tons, and the empty mass - 214 or 222 tons. In the future, he should replace the An-124 Ruslan transport aircraft.
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  1. Thrifty 27 March 2020 15: 28 New
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    I hope that the name will be given to him better in time. For elephants do not fly, but "as you call a yacht, so it will sail" is not said yesterday, but it is said true!
    1. Aviator_ 27 March 2020 15: 35 New
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      Well, there was the An-22, called "Antei", although the mythological Antei Hercules defeated by tearing it from the Earth - death came to him after rising into the air. Also more than an unfortunate name for an aircraft.
      1. Thunderbolt 27 March 2020 16: 01 New
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        Quote: Aviator_
        mythological Anthea Heracles defeated, tearing him from the Earth.

        I had the good fortune of serving on the S-300V named "Antey." Well, a very good name. The enemy will take off from the ground, fly, enjoying his dominance and clap. Two enemy missiles stand on course. laughing
        1. Aviator_ 27 March 2020 16: 12 New
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          In your version, the name of the concern that produces the air defense systems is just the case - Antei took power from the Earth (Gaia, in ancient Greek), tried to keep in touch with her all the time. These are the systems that land the aircraft, in full accordance with the Ancient Greeks.
          1. Shurik70 27 March 2020 21: 04 New
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            And why the plane "belly up" portrayed?
            It must be so.
            1. Rusticolus 28 March 2020 07: 57 New
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              Is not a fact. From the point of view of aerodynamics, he does not care, at least put it sideways. Perhaps there are some reasons why it is easier to mount in limbo. And if you hang it correctly, then the vertical tail will be in the aerodynamic shadow of the mounting rack. So it may well be that the picture is correct.
              1. Aviator_ 28 March 2020 12: 56 New
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                In wind tunnels, model tests are carried out at various angles, these are the angles of attack, slip and roll. For the tail holder of the model (usually there are used tensile weights) the position of the model can be any. On belt scales, the model is always installed upside down. In the T-106 (the pipe was commissioned in 1943), the working part is made under the belt suspension.
          2. Artunis 28 March 2020 11: 22 New
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            That no one would have guessed.
    2. NEXUS 27 March 2020 15: 45 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      For elephants do not fly

      And crocodiles fly, think ... fellow
      1. Frol 27 March 2020 16: 14 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: Thrifty
        For elephants do not fly

        And crocodiles fly, think ... fellow

        And they showed themselves well in Afghanistan ... good
      2. Shuttle 27 March 2020 16: 26 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: Thrifty
        For elephants do not fly

        And crocodiles fly, think ... fellow

        Yes Yes Yes...

        In 86, I ended up in the SA in Belarus, in tank training in the Furnace near Borisov. And even then there was definitely a joke about flying crocodiles. Without any hint, he spoke with a Little Russian, or perhaps a Belarusian reprimand. I write as I remember him since.
        - Comrade ensign, and comrade warrant officer, but what about crocodiles?
        - Nі, do not pour!
        - And the axis is Comrade Major.
        - What !? ... Well, yes, literary ... Ale is so low, low.
        - Ні! Vin kazav scho yak rocket!
        - Yak ...?! ... Ah, yes, yes ... Yes, a little slumber. And potim yak rocket! ...
        1. Thrifty 27 March 2020 16: 34 New
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          Shuttle- "In the Belorussian Furnaces there is a soldier’s grave! It’s not from the bullet that the" shovel "has fallen in love! !!" hi He was there in 87! I remember working at the famous Borisov match factory !!! good
          1. mintai_kot 27 March 2020 21: 06 New
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            Do Belarusians have such a tradition? Pinsk - training of the Navy behind the fence ...., like a speech factory
        2. John22 27 March 2020 18: 10 New
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          There was another answer. Yes, crocodiles fly, but only in wartime and low, low!
      3. svp67 27 March 2020 17: 07 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        And crocodiles fly, think ...

        But “Killer Whale” is not so lucky ...
      4. Piramidon 27 March 2020 17: 21 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        And crocodiles fly, think ...
        good
        "Crocodile", true, is a popular name, but there is "Alligator" and "Cayman", which, in principle, is the same animal. Fly and not bad.
      5. Alexey RA 27 March 2020 18: 09 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        And crocodiles fly, think ...

        Yes, we have cow are flying. smile No, not those in the "Features ..", but these:
        1. Alexey RA 27 March 2020 18: 12 New
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          PS I can not resist the classics:
      6. orionvitt 28 March 2020 03: 33 New
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        Quote: NEXUS
        And crocodiles fly, think about it ..

        And sharks too, but only black. Who would have thought. laughing
      7. K-612-O 28 March 2020 04: 39 New
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        Tilki nizenko laughing
    3. vkl.47 27 March 2020 16: 08 New
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      I saw this layout. I work there. Not an ordinary glider.
      1. Frol 27 March 2020 16: 13 New
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        Quote: vkl.47
        I saw this layout. I work there. Not an ordinary glider.

        Could you give a more detailed look at what this bird is and what are the prospects for mass production ..? If not a secret of course .. hi
        1. vkl.47 27 March 2020 17: 08 New
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          Quote: Frol
          Quote: vkl.47
          I saw this layout. I work there. Not an ordinary glider.

          Could you give a more detailed look at what this bird is and what are the prospects for mass production ..? If not a secret of course .. hi

          Who will tell me such electroplating info)) this is a limited circle in the course. I will say that there are other gliders. Look like main and cargo. The rest is state secret.
          1. Frol 27 March 2020 19: 36 New
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            Quote: vkl.47
            Quote: Frol
            Quote: vkl.47
            I saw this layout. I work there. Not an ordinary glider.

            Could you give a more detailed look at what this bird is and what are the prospects for mass production ..? If not a secret of course .. hi

            Who will tell me such electroplating info)) this is a limited circle in the course. I will say that there are other gliders. Look like main and cargo. The rest is state secret.

            Well, thank you for saying that, then everything is serious .... It’s better not to chat and wait for the first experimental hi
        2. vkl.47 27 March 2020 17: 08 New
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          Quote: Frol
          Quote: vkl.47
          I saw this layout. I work there. Not an ordinary glider.

          Could you give a more detailed look at what this bird is and what are the prospects for mass production ..? If not a secret of course .. hi

          Who will tell me such electroplating info)) this is a limited circle in the course. I will say that there are other gliders. Look like main and cargo. The rest is state secret.
        3. Piramidon 27 March 2020 18: 53 New
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          Quote: Frol
          If not a secret of course.

          Yes, of course the secret. Well then, when there will be at least a layout, then it’s possible that they will show us something. And, as usual, what can be shown. I don’t think that in the military-industrial complex such assholes that, according to the application of VO users, will be laid out in all sorts of "face books" of the technical characteristics of the designed equipment.
          1. Frol 27 March 2020 19: 40 New
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            Quote: Piramidon
            I don’t think that in the military-industrial complex such assholes that, according to the application of VO users, will be laid out in all sorts of "face books" of the technical characteristics of the designed equipment.

            I just checked how serious it is .. If I started to chat, it means bullshit .. I answered grammatically (in secret), but do not mind pampering .. bully
      2. sedoj 27 March 2020 20: 46 New
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        Quote: vkl.47
        I saw this layout. I work there.not an ordinary glider.

        Yes Yes. Especially if the picture is upside down:
    4. Invoce 27 March 2020 16: 24 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      I hope that the name will be given to him better in time. For elephants do not fly, but "as you call a yacht, so it will sail" is not said yesterday, but it is said true!

      Well, "crocodiles" and "alligators" fly the same !!! In Russia, the Elephant can fly ... There would be a magical pendell ... and you need to kick it purposefully. But this joke is so-so ... The name will be harmonious, and since the aircraft is not military, but military transport, the name will be neutral or epic (Ilya Muromets, Dobrynya, Peresvet or something like that)
    5. codetalker 27 March 2020 16: 35 New
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      But what about Dumbo?)))
    6. antivirus 27 March 2020 18: 20 New
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      so it will float, "said not yesterday, but it is true
      -this is something else to get minuses, and minusers do not allow to say otherwise. In their opinion, only a few do-it-yourself hands in the country, only a teaspoon is added to the bottomless barrel of power of Russia.
      and for amers by the ladle, immediately an aircraft carrier or 1% of EU GDP, defense spending is growing
    7. rich 27 March 2020 20: 24 New
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      I hope that the name will be given to him better in time. For elephants do not fly

      But the Indians immediately "eapadut" in this name. So, the export potential of this aircraft is yes
    8. pafegosoff 29 March 2020 17: 28 New
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      The Boeing 747 was called Jumbo.
  2. Vladimir_2U 27 March 2020 15: 28 New
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    "Mammoth" is more logical!
    1. Shuttle 27 March 2020 15: 31 New
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      "Mammoth" is more logical!

      “Gorynych” or “Seraphim”. Neither mammoths nor elephants fly.
      Seraphim, if anything, are six-winged angels closest to God.
      1. Vladimir_2U 27 March 2020 15: 33 New
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        Quote: Shuttle
        “Gorynych” or “Seraphim”. Neither mammoths nor elephants fly.
        But at least they were real. And the mammoth was also found in our open spaces, unlike the elephant.
        1. Paul Siebert 27 March 2020 18: 27 New
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          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Quote: Shuttle
          “Gorynych” or “Seraphim”. Neither mammoths nor elephants fly.
          But at least they were real. And the mammoth was also found in our open spaces, unlike the elephant.

          Oddly enough, Volodya in the vastness of our country in ancient times, long before the mammoths trogonterium elephants were found - the ancestors of all trunk ...
          So Russia is also the birthplace of elephants ... laughing
          1. Vladimir_2U 30 March 2020 03: 37 New
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            Quote: Paul Siebert
            trogonterium elephants were found - the ancestors of all trunk ...

            I am glad for your knowledge in paleontology, no, I am proud of you! laughing
      2. knn54 27 March 2020 15: 44 New
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        Dmitry, "Seraphim" ALSO the Greek word ...
        1. marshes 27 March 2020 15: 54 New
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          Quote: knn54
          Dmitry, "Seraphim" ALSO the Greek word ...

          The main thing that the Enochian language would not be recognized as the progenitor of the Russian language.
        2. Shuttle 27 March 2020 16: 05 New
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          Dmitry, "Seraphim" ALSO the Greek word ...

          Well yes. I do not propose a language, but a category t.s. ability to fly. drinks
  3. marshes 27 March 2020 15: 29 New
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    A Th photo overhead.
    1. Vladimir_2U 27 March 2020 15: 34 New
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      This is some kind of specific purge, I saw a photo many times where the models are upside down, I don’t know why.
      1. marshes 27 March 2020 15: 37 New
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        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        This is a specific purge, I saw a photo many times where the models are upside down, I don’t know why.

        By the way, it’s interesting, maybe someone will explain.
        Just assume that the dye will not be affected by gravity ..
      2. Aerolab 27 March 2020 15: 48 New
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        In the pipe, it does not matter how to install the model. Upside down is simply easier to attach to an aerodynamic balance. And the scales work differently. Roughly speaking, either tensile or compression. I don’t remember exactly how the scales work in the T-106.
    2. Aviator_ 27 March 2020 15: 39 New
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      This is the so-called "tube" position of the model. Since the tests take place on a belt balance (they measure the forces and moments acting on the model), to eliminate the influence of backlash (weight and lifting force act down), the readings are taken in this position.
  4. The leader of the Redskins 27 March 2020 15: 31 New
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    I don’t even know what to comment on. Although, however, there is nothing to comment on. Probably, once upon a time, they thought of Ruslan as impossible. Just, watching the latest troubles in our aviation industry, I don’t want to shout and clap my hands ... But I don’t want to panic too ...
  5. Paul Siebert 27 March 2020 15: 35 New
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    It’s strange to see a transport model upside down ...
    Or was the photo incorrectly placed? wink
    1. Piramidon 27 March 2020 17: 27 New
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      It’s strange to see a transport model upside down ...
      Or was the photo incorrectly placed?

      Well, it's in the pipe. There it makes no difference how to post. The main thing is to take readings.
    2. Aviator_ 27 March 2020 21: 53 New
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      Correctly posted photo. I wrote above about this. For sampling backlash during weight tests.
  6. Shuttle 27 March 2020 15: 45 New
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    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Quote: Shuttle
    “Gorynych” or “Seraphim”. Neither mammoths nor elephants fly.
    But at least they were real. And the mammoth was also found in our open spaces, unlike the elephant.

    A "Relight" epic character
    A "Northwind" the Greek deity of the north wind.
    And "Antei" is the son of Poseidon, literally - "rebelled against."
    And “Cube”, “Square” and “Thor” are generally geometric figures.
    And Ruslan’s name is my comrade.
    And mammoths became extinct, and elephants are bald mammoths (joke).
    Where is the logic?
    1. marshes 27 March 2020 15: 50 New
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      Where is the logic?

      It is hinted that it is time to transfer to the Turkic names, and the Greeks are protesting.
      This is how reality looks, and Russia, from the observers of TURKPA, will become a sovereign member. laughing
    2. Igor Borisov_2 27 March 2020 15: 50 New
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      And how could you call a drone "Altius", if from Latin altius - "higher". So he flies above all, or what?

      Translated from Latin: Citius, altius, fortius ("cytius, altius, fortius") means "Faster, higher, stronger." This is also the motto of the modern Olympic movement and the Olympic Games since 1913
    3. Vladimir_2U 27 March 2020 15: 51 New
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      Quote: Shuttle
      And mammoths became extinct, and elephants are bald mammoths

      Well, "Bald Mammoth" is too much, even for domestic onomastics. laughing
    4. Lord of the Sith 27 March 2020 15: 54 New
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      CBT generally "Pinocchio"))

      No need to look for logic where its absence is planned))
      This is so that the enemy did not guess))
  7. maverick5334 27 March 2020 16: 12 New
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    But nothing that somehow legs grow this photo has from Lockheed C-5 Galaxy?
    Who screwed up? The author of the article? The article itself? Myth?
    1. viktorR 27 March 2020 16: 20 New
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      Well, the photo was turned over, people won’t notice, people pick it up :)
  8. Thunderbolt 27 March 2020 16: 14 New
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    In the future, he should replace the An-124 Ruslan transport aircraft.
    And surpass. The Ruslana comm. Load is 120 tons. The Elephant is laying 180.
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  10. cherkas.oe 27 March 2020 16: 52 New
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    Neither the drawings of the machine itself, nor the engines on it yet, but were already weighed in the pipe. So twenty years will have to wait for this car. Some of us will never see her at work, but it's a pity. sad
    1. Zaurbek 27 March 2020 17: 43 New
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      The drawings were ....
    2. cherkas.oe 27 March 2020 21: 21 New
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      Quote: cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe (Oleg) 4 Today, 16:52
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      Neither the drawings of the machine itself, nor the engines on it yet, but were already weighed in the pipe. So twenty years will have to wait for this car. Some of us will never see her at work, but it's a pity.

      About five years ago, I wrote that the PAK FA with the engines of the second stage we will see by the 25th year and also a minuscule minus without any opposition - the story repeats itself, people do not want to accept the realities.
      1. Albachino 28 March 2020 04: 58 New
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        So on YouTube I saw drying with a second-generation engine. On the right is the first-straight edge of the nozzle. On the left of the second generation, the nozzle edges are wavy, well, like a sine wave
        1. cherkas.oe 28 March 2020 12: 28 New
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          Quote: AlBachino
          On YouTube, I saw drying with a second-generation engine.

          I also saw this is only the first stage of testing, there are not even two of them in LL. Now, when, as a result of these tests, they make changes, they will deliver the second one and test it again, then there will be a pre-production batch that will be put on experimental cars and will be driven again, then the engine will go into series and production cars, and this is exactly 2025. +, -.
  11. Zaurbek 27 March 2020 16: 52 New
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    About PD 35, something was quiet, what is the news?
    1. Vadim237 27 March 2020 17: 36 New
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      By 2025 they promise to make a demonstrator.
  12. Alexander Seklitsky 27 March 2020 16: 55 New
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    I understand that this will be a cross between An 124 and An 225
    1. Zaurbek 27 March 2020 17: 42 New
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      It is necessary to calculate by turbojet engine ... 4h35tn ...... D18T how much traction?
      1. Alexander Seklitsky 27 March 2020 17: 45 New
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        The D18T has a thrust of about 24 tons. It has a lifting capacity of 120 tons. And here from 150-180. And the empty weight is more
        1. Zaurbek 27 March 2020 17: 47 New
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          6x24tn = 144tn and 4x35 = 140tn it turns out at the level of Mriya will be
          1. Alexander Seklitsky 27 March 2020 17: 54 New
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            The mriya has a take-off weight of about 600 tons. The elephant is supposed to have 500. The wing span and fuselage length are the same as the An 225. I wonder how much such a giant is in demand. Wouldn't it be better to do a little less, but with two front 35
            1. Zaurbek 27 March 2020 17: 58 New
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              With two, it’s just not enough .. there is an IL476 with 4x16t PS90 ... now he can have a new wing + 2pcs
            2. Sky strike fighter 27 March 2020 18: 03 New
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              And what is the point of making an airplane with such a carrying capacity (with two PD-35s), since there are already 476 tons of carrying capacity in the IL-60 series?
              There should be a line of transport vehicles IL-112 (6 tons), IL-276 (20 tons), IL-476 (60 tons) and Elephant (180 tons), if wisely. Each of the vehicles of the next class in carrying capacity should exceed the previous one This parameter is 3 times.
              1. Zaurbek 28 March 2020 13: 18 New
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                Do IL476 with 2xPD35 what will be the GP? One way or another, more than one modernization awaits him ... maybe we will also see such a version.
          2. Sky strike fighter 27 March 2020 17: 57 New
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            An elephant should replace both An 124 and An 225. It is commendable. The main thing is that the project be brought to its logical conclusion in the form of a promising machine ready for operation.
            The Elephant aircraft project is aimed at researching the technologies of a promising transport aircraft to replace the An-124 Ruslan Soviet heavy long-range transport aircraft. This aircraft will be designed to transport heavy and bulky goods at a range of about seven thousand kilometers at a speed of 850 km / h. The required length of the runway is three kilometers. The maximum payload is 180 tons (for comparison, the An-124 has 120 tons). "Elephant" is designed for Russian perspective dual-circuit turbofan engines PD-35. The work is carried out under the state contract with the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation as part of the research project "Technology-Transport 2021".

            http://in24.org/technology/39070
            1. Alexander Seklitsky 27 March 2020 18: 19 New
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              The main thing is that the engine drivers can. The rest is all solvable.
  13. Imperial Technocrat 27 March 2020 17: 07 New
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    Mommy simpotyaga
  14. John22 27 March 2020 19: 09 New
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    According to the project, the Elephant is smaller than Mriya, a little.
  15. Angestyr 27 March 2020 19: 25 New
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    And why is the photo in the article upside down?
    1. Vadim237 27 March 2020 20: 31 New
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      Because this is how tests are carried out on the scales.
  16. dauria 27 March 2020 21: 05 New
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    The second model of the aircraft was apparently purged, since the first, assembled at TsAGI at the end of last year, was without tail unit.


    Well, once you have decided on the tail - there will be a car. And the tail is classic, like everyone else.
    So they decided not to be silly. It may be funny, but this is really the most important part of the plane. Make the right shoulder with the right area of ​​GO and VO, of sufficient strength and preferably weightless ... Then the nose is shorter, and with a mass spacing there are fewer problems, and with centering. Oh, to live. Yes, believe that young people are not from the Rogozins alone. Good luck. Remember the main thing
    WINGS, LEGS ,,, MAIN - TAIL !!!! laughing
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  18. lvov_aleksey 27 March 2020 22: 52 New
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    Quote: Thrifty
    I hope that the name will be given to him better in time. For elephants do not fly, but "as you call a yacht, so it will sail" is not said yesterday, but it is said true!

    Did Ruslans fly ?!
  19. lvov_aleksey 27 March 2020 22: 56 New
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    Quote: Shurik70
    And why the plane "belly up" portrayed?
    It must be so.

    you do not understand, try to turn it in the air by 180 degrees and do not break the blades))))))))))))))
  20. lvov_aleksey 27 March 2020 22: 58 New
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    Quote: John22
    According to the project, the Elephant is smaller than Mriya, a little.

    only Mriya does not fly)))))
    1. Sky strike fighter 28 March 2020 00: 05 New
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      Mriya flies in the singular. Even modernized it recently.
  21. Nikolai Korovin 28 March 2020 06: 36 New
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    Alligator is also a good name for an aircraft.
    "-Comrade foreman, and crocodiles fly?"
    - That neither crocodiles do not bark.
    - And Comrade Colonel said they were flying ...
    - Well, crocodiles, of course, bark, but now and now ... "
  22. lvov_aleksey 29 March 2020 19: 31 New
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    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    Mriya flies in the singular. Even modernized it recently.

    for a long time she flies already alone, although she fled again, and then what? How's our landfill Buran?