German Air Force modernization: Berlin found how to replace Tornado aircraft


In Germany, they thought about updating their aging combat fleet aviation. Famous Tornadoes can be replaced with new aircraft.


As you know, the German Air Force made extensive use of Panavia Tornado aircraft. However, over time, this technique became outdated, which required the German military-political leadership to adopt a plan to replace the Tornado with other aircraft. The main requirement is that the country’s air forces have at their disposal an aircraft capable of delivering American nuclear bombs, as stipulated by the agreement with NATO.

The plan to replace the Tornado has not yet been approved, but it is known that Germany is planning to acquire up to 90 Eurofighter Typhoons, 30 F / A-18E / F and 15 EA-18G in the coming years. At the same time, out of 90 Typhoons, approximately half will replace the Tornado, and the other half will replace the older generation Eurofighter, which is now in service with German aircraft.

Currently, the German Air Force has 93 Panavia Tornado aircraft and 141 Typhoons aircraft. So the task of replacing the fleet will be very voluminous. The last of the Tornado aircraft, according to the calculations of the German military, should be deducted from service in 2030.

The recall of the Tornado was planned to begin in 2025, but now the German Air Force is already beginning to prepare for the upcoming aircraft replacement. So, not so long ago, Berlin recalled Tornado aircraft from Jordan. In this Middle Eastern country, they were deployed to conduct reconnaissance flights in support of anti-terror coalition operations in Iraq.

Interestingly, at some time American F-35 fighters were considered by Berlin as an alternative to the Tornado, but then the German leadership came to the conclusion that it is better to opt for the Eurofighter Typhoons, since this aircraft is already operated by the country's air forces, pilots and technical staff are well acquainted with him.

But this immediately raises the question of whether, if acquired, new aircraft will be able to fulfill the tasks of deploying nuclear bombs stipulated by the agreement of the North Atlantic Alliance? The Tornado plane had the appropriate certificates for the transportation of B61-12 nuclear bombs, and tests have already been carried out, showing that it is capable of carrying American bombs.

Unlike Tornado, Eurofighter Typhoons does not have a certificate for the transport of B61 nuclear bombs. After the U.S. Navy removed nuclear in the 1990s weapon from aircraft carriers, the requirement to transport nuclear bombs on a Super Hornet aircraft, which was first put into operation in 2001, was also canceled.

Now the German government expects that F / A-61E / F aircraft will be prepared for transportation of the B-18. The preparation task will be entrusted to Boeing. As for the Eurofighter Typhoons, their preparations for the transportation of nuclear bombs will take years, but they do not want to wait in Berlin.


A separate issue is the replacement of the ECR Tornado used by German aircraft. This electronic warfare reconnaissance bomber is configured to perform tasks to counteract enemy air defense systems and is equipped with special equipment for detecting and determining the location of enemy radars and emitters. A worthy replacement for the aircraft could be the Boeing EA-18 Growler. This modification in the amount of 15 units is also planned to be purchased for the needs of German aviation.

Interestingly, experts assess the upcoming purchases of aircraft to replace the Tornado as a good way for Germany to support its own military industry, including the capacities involved in the production of Eurofighter Typhoons, and to acquire aircraft capable of carrying nuclear weapons and electronic warfare aircraft.

However, there are nuances. Thus, the F / A-18E / F and EA-18G will become fundamentally new aircraft in operation and maintenance for the personnel of the German Air Force. They will have to be mastered, and this is not to mention the rather high cost of Super Hornets and Growlers.

However, Germany has no way out, as the aging Tornadoes have been in need of replacement for years, and in the first place, the needs of the German state’s defense capabilities.
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    1. rich 27 March 2020 09: 02 New
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      So what bothers you - take it yourself and write an article about problems that are higher than the roof. And we will discuss
      1. Alexey from Perm 27 March 2020 09: 35 New
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        I think you yourself in the courses that we have going on
    2. maidan.izrailovich 27 March 2020 09: 05 New
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      How VO takes care of Germany's problems ...

      Do you have a hard day? What lines in the article indicate the concern of the German military aviation?
      1. Insurgent 27 March 2020 09: 17 New
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        Quote: maidan.izrailovich
        Do you have a hard day?

        lol good
      2. Dreamboat 27 March 2020 09: 19 New
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        Interestingly, Germany (a very poor country!) Is going to rearm on 4-generation aircraft (4+ is still 4), and not buy F-35s from the hegemon, like smaller countries with dwarf armies!
        According to the Typhoons, this can be attributed to protectionism, but according to F / A-18?
        1. Lelek 27 March 2020 16: 34 New
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          Quote: Dreamboat
          ... is going to rearm on 4-generation aircraft (4+ is still 4), and not buy F-35s from the hegemon, like smaller countries with dwarf armies!

          hi
          Germany, like a praying mantis in a butterfly net, seems to be not one of weaklings and is trying to throw off the bonds, but takes a small step and immediately looks back at the occupier: "I'm sorry, I accidentally, I won’t ...".

          IMHO, there is no difference in the behavior of mongrels such as Poland and the Baltic states and "Europolps" such as Germany, France or Italy. By the way, Italy, in gratitude to Russia for its help in the fight against COVID-19, sent its warships with "lionfish" on board to the World Cup (guess against whom).
        2. TermNachTer 27 March 2020 19: 16 New
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          And on F / A - 18 as complete nonsense. Do the Germans really not understand what problems they will have with logistics?
        3. SovAr238A 27 March 2020 19: 51 New
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          Quote: Dreamboat
          and on F / A-18?


          Yes, you just need to understand that the Superhigh is a direct analogue of the Su-35S ...

          And with his avionics - maybe even more superior ....
          A controlled thrust vector for a nuclear weapon carrier, a stoplight ...
          1. Petruha1 27 March 2020 21: 07 New
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            Quote: SovAr238A
            Yes, you just need to understand that the Superhigh is a direct analogue of the Su-35S ...

            Horror! March to the "school", learn the materiel!
            1. SovAr238A 28 March 2020 22: 16 New
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              Quote: Petruha1
              Quote: SovAr238A
              Yes, you just need to understand that the Superhigh is a direct analogue of the Su-35S ...

              Horror! March to the "school", learn the materiel!


              I tried it myself about the materiel?
              Well, about the Su-35S or about the Super Hornet?
      3. Alexey from Perm 27 March 2020 09: 37 New
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        This is not a dry informational article, here the author describes the "distressing" situation of German aviation.
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          5-9 27 March 2020 12: 40 New
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          What are quotes for? For an oil painting, it was necessary to add how many pieces can fly into the air ...
    3. businessv 27 March 2020 09: 19 New
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      Quote: Alexey from Perm
      How VO takes care of the problems of Germany ... Yes, we have our own roofs, why do we need German?

      VO is a Military Review, colleague! What did you dislike about this news article? In my opinion, everything is out of place and intelligently stated. I have plus. hi
    4. svp67 27 March 2020 09: 34 New
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      Quote: Alexey from Perm
      How VO takes care of Germany's problems ...

      How can you, a resident of Perm, care about VO ...
      Quote: Alexey from Perm
      Yes, we have our own roofs higher, why do we need German?

      So decide them in your Perm, why yell then
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  2. newcomer 27 March 2020 09: 00 New
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    Somehow the Germans' decision smacks of a change in the fleet right now. This is against the background of the fact that Merkel said that more than 70 percent of Germans would fall ill; and that this virus is the most serious test for Germans since WWII.
    1. maidan.izrailovich 27 March 2020 09: 07 New
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      Somehow the Germans' decision smacks of a change in the fleet right now.

      Washington requires its vassals to actively arm themselves. Merkel at the end of her career hurries to follow the instructions of the owner.
    2. Insurgent 27 March 2020 09: 15 New
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      Quote: newbie
      Somehow the Germans' decision smacks of a change in the fleet right now. This is against the background of the fact that Merkel said that more than 70 percent of Germans would fall ill; and that this virus is the most serious test for Germans since WWII.


      She declares, she said, and then completely forgot. With the memory of an old woman, somehow not that.

      Regarding the challenges of the present and the historical ...
      1. newcomer 27 March 2020 09: 19 New
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        I agree. The connection of the virus for the Germans with the Second World War, at least it should have been more detailed. And it sounded like something ambiguous.
        1. Insurgent 27 March 2020 09: 21 New
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          Quote: newbie
          The relationship of the virus for Germans with WWII

          But I must say that the Great War is for us, for the Germans it Great defeat or just WWII, the culprits of which they became ...
          1. newcomer 27 March 2020 10: 24 New
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            I’m talking about that, it sounded ambiguous_ to both my own and others. Although the Germans repented and dissociated themselves from the Reich.
            1. Insurgent 27 March 2020 10: 26 New
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              Quote: newbie
              I’m talking about that, it sounded ambiguous_ to both my own and others.

              It is not conceivable to expect otherwise from occupied Germany.
              1. newcomer 27 March 2020 10: 30 New
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                Do you think her led to such a phrase?
                1. Insurgent 27 March 2020 10: 47 New
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                  Quote: newbie
                  Do you think her led to such a phrase?


                  At least the phrase did not become something exceptional from the general behavior model of the Chancellor and the Federal Republic of Germany.
                  1. newcomer 27 March 2020 10: 50 New
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                    For normal, thinking people and the media has become. But for schizoty on anti-Russian hysteria, no. Where are our analysts at all? After all, what was said by the senile Merkel is a continuation of the revision of history.
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        1. newcomer 27 March 2020 15: 28 New
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          Somehow it's hard to talk with inadequate.
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    3. Piramidon 27 March 2020 09: 29 New
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      Quote: newbie
      the Germans’s decision is now to change the fleet

      This problem they had stood before the epidemic.
      1. newcomer 27 March 2020 15: 30 New
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        Clearly, I was not talking about the fact itself, but about time. I believe that now it’s not about buying at all, it’s not necessary to talk about production until they come out of the peak of the virus.
        1. SovAr238A 27 March 2020 19: 55 New
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          Quote: newbie
          Clearly, I was not talking about the fact itself, but about time. I believe that now it’s not about buying at all, it’s not necessary to talk about production until they come out of the peak of the virus.


          The problem of the virus is not in diseases, but in the foot of the entire economy because of quarantines, which will need to be pulled out later ... And this is the problem, and that is where they can get plenty of money and massive re-equipment will give rise to employment and attendants. .

          Like so.
          1. Petruha1 27 March 2020 21: 14 New
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            Quote: SovAr238A
            The problem of the virus is not in diseases, but in the foot of the entire economy due to quarantines, which will then need to be pulled out ... And this is precisely the problem, and it is precisely for this that they are throwing easy money, and it is precisely massive re-equipment that will give rise to employment and service staff ..

            Horror! What an illiteracy! Problem not a virus, but humanity. Another liberalist is Russophobe. He offers Russia to give up their positions - they will come and take everything away ... We already passed this in the 90s of the last century, we almost lost Russia, but thought better of it in time!
            1. SovAr238A 28 March 2020 22: 15 New
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              Quote: Petruha1
              Quote: SovAr238A
              The problem of the virus is not in diseases, but in the foot of the entire economy due to quarantines, which will then need to be pulled out ... And this is precisely the problem, and it is precisely for this that they are throwing easy money, and it is precisely massive re-equipment that will give rise to employment and service staff ..

              Horror! What an illiteracy! Problem not a virus, but humanity. Another liberalist is Russophobe. He offers Russia to give up their positions - they will come and take everything away ... We already passed this in the 90s of the last century, we almost lost Russia, but thought better of it in time!


              "Che wanted to say something, sickly?" (c) Professor of the old Soviet school.


              You write nonsense.
              Where did you see the change of position in Russia?
              Just because your training manual so requires you?
              Anyone who doesn’t "ouray" is written down as liberals and "surrender of Russia"?

              The economy of the whole world is collapsing.
              Oil in the same America is no longer just given away for free, but also paid for being taken from storage facilities ... Yeah. There is already such news about one company.
              Saudi oil at a discount of 8 bucks from the market - no one in the world also needs it, because the economy has stood up, all enterprises are in quarantine.
              The economy has really risen everywhere.
              Look at India, America, look at Europe.
              No one works in economics.
              Only enterprises strategically important for ensuring the activities of the population work - and their share in employment is no more than 3-5% ...

              Another sofa warrior by training manuals ... Cap-bearer, damn it ...
    4. 32363 27 March 2020 09: 40 New
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      Quote: newbie
      Somehow the Germans' decision smacks of a change in the fleet right now. This is against the background of the fact that Merkel said that more than 70 percent of Germans would fall ill; and that this virus is the most serious test for Germans since WWII.

      do not trust Jews and gypsies.
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      LMN 27 March 2020 09: 45 New
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      Quote: newbie
      Somehow the Germans' decision smacks of a change in the fleet right now. This is against the background of the fact that Merkel said that more than 70 percent of Germans would fall ill; and that this virus is the most serious test for Germans since WWII.

      This is a kind of "idea" .. lol
      1. newcomer 27 March 2020 10: 29 New
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        Order and warning, as if already on the nose. Until 25 g. Time is not very much. Given the overall economic downturn.
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          LMN 27 March 2020 10: 32 New
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          Quote: newbie
          Order and warning, as if already on the nose. Until 25 g. Time is not very much. Given the overall economic downturn.

          There is nothing there, pour water.
          1. newcomer 27 March 2020 10: 33 New
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            No what? I do not pour water, I draw my conclusions.
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              LMN 27 March 2020 10: 35 New
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              Quote: newbie
              No what? I do not pour water, I draw my conclusions.

              Sorry, Jew below. hi
    6. vadim dok 27 March 2020 15: 09 New
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      Germany allocated € 50 billion to help small and medium-sized businesses from the virus! And Russia has a $ 46 billion military budget. Each hut has its own toys!
      1. SovAr238A 27 March 2020 19: 56 New
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        Quote: vadim dok
        Germany allocated € 50 billion to help small and medium-sized businesses from the virus! And Russia has a $ 46 billion military budget. Each hut has its own toys!


        Where is 46 from?
        Halve the sturgeon.
        1,9 trillion rubles.
        Which corresponds to 23 billion dollars ...
  3. Aerodrome 27 March 2020 09: 03 New
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    However, Germany has no way out, as the aging Tornadoes have been in need of replacement for years, and in the first place, the needs of the German state’s defense capabilities.
    as ? how is there no way out if there was no entrance? damn .. the Baltic states ... where are you at all? Yes, live with Jurmala, we’ll go to another place, why? we are ours. winked
  4. Amateur 27 March 2020 09: 08 New
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    Tornado used by German aviation. This electronic warfare bomber

    As for the Eurofighter Typhoons, their preparations for carrying nuclear bombs take years and in Berlin don't want to wait.

    Unsuccessful translation of a strange article, or is the author seriously "concerned" that the Germans are in a hurry to prepare their planes for atomic bombs?
    Quarantine seems to be bad for some.
  5. voyaka uh 27 March 2020 09: 11 New
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    Buy Typhoons - I can agree. These are assembly plants,
    jobs in Germany. Its technology.
    But the purchase of F-18 and F-15 is a mistake. This is yesterday.
    You must immediately jump to the F-35. That is what the German Air Force wants. But politicians are slowing down.
    1. novel66 27 March 2020 09: 20 New
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      or return to Bf-109, charismatic, at least! lol
    2. Avior 27 March 2020 09: 43 New
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      The Germans want to get a 5th generation European aircraft that they are trying to develop
      Go directly to the f-35 - this is the right decision on the part of the military, but the transition of the army to the f-35 will put an end to the prospects of their own project
      For the question will inevitably arise - if the army has already retrained for f-35, why should it be retrained again?
      And if it’s not f-35, but you need a reb plane, it’s automatically worth the choice of Growler, and the Superhornets are already to him, since they are easy to modify for nuclear weapons, and training on them is similar to Growler
      1. SovAr238A 27 March 2020 19: 59 New
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        Quote: Avior
        The Germans want to get a 5th generation European aircraft that they are trying to develop


        Sorry, but you are mistaken.

        Not a single program of the 5th generation of fighter aircraft in Europe was actually there.
        Neither the tempest nor the French, no one.
        They decided that what is called the 5th generation is a transitional option, from four ++ to the sixth.
        The nominal combat value in a theater of operations in Europe of 5th generation aircraft is not so great that a half-trillion dress for development would be.
        Therefore, they spend a trillion, but for the sixth generation.
        And they do it as usual - together.
        1. Avior 27 March 2020 20: 08 New
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          So they want the sixth,
          In any case, they want to pass by f-35
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      LMN 27 March 2020 09: 51 New
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      Buy Typhoons - I can agree. These are assembly plants,
      jobs in Germany. Its technology.
      You must immediately jump to the F-35. That is what the German Air Force wants. But politicians are slowing down.

      We somehow discussed with you on this subject! yes
      And I argued that Germany would not buy the F-35 .. winked
      Do you admit that you were wrong? smile
      1. voyaka uh 27 March 2020 11: 06 New
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        I remember. I said that the military wants the F-35, and the politicians want
        Typhoons. But I do not remember that I predicted the purchase of the F-35. recourse
        In general, you were right.
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          LMN 27 March 2020 11: 23 New
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          So it was. There is a link below.
          But I was right hi
          Yeah don't worry wink
          drinks (especially a virus)
          1. voyaka uh 27 March 2020 11: 30 New
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            Thank. I'm not upset. And the F-35 spins normally (more than 500 pieces),
            and Germany is fine. fellow
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              LMN 27 March 2020 11: 46 New
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              Quote: voyaka uh
              Thank. I'm not upset. And the F-35 spins normally (more than 500 pieces),
              and Germany is fine. fellow

              Everything looks so that the F-35 does not spin up anywhere .. how many "copies" were delivered in the last month?
              1. voyaka uh 27 March 2020 12: 59 New
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                Now everything has stopped due to a pandemic. When she goes down
                the plants will again reach their capacity. China won the epidemic
                for 2.5 months. And production resumes.
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                  LMN 27 March 2020 13: 03 New
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                  When it begins to decline, the plants will again reach their capacity.

                  Well, yes. When it does, then it will. In the meantime, I'm right again hi
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    5. Kurare 27 March 2020 10: 33 New
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      But the purchase of F-18 and F-15 is a mistake. This is yesterday.

      hi Where did you find the F-15? It was only about the F / A-18E / F and 15 EA-18G.
      Quote: voyaka uh
      You must immediately jump to the F-35. That is what the German Air Force wants. But politicians are slowing down.

      Not certainly in that way. In Germany, there is an F-35 lobby among first-level politicians. Another thing is that the F-35 became a red rag after a very small scandal that managed to hush up.

      One of the top Luftwaffe generals very aggressively lobbied Lockheed's product. But, as it turned out, this lobbyism was not without vested interests. The general is already retired. In addition, buying the F-35, you can put an end to the joint European projects of new generation fighters.
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      LMN 27 March 2020 10: 56 New
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      https://topwar.ru/140810-kak-udeshevit-f-35-v-ssha-lomayut-golovy.html
      Screenshots could not be inserted.
      Germany did not buy F-35 wink
  6. rotmistr60 27 March 2020 09: 12 New
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    in the first place - the defense needs of the German state
    But at the same time to be adapted to American nuclear bombs. Whom are the Germans going to bomb? The lesson of 1945 was forgotten, but it is a pity.
  7. Andrei Nikolaevich 27 March 2020 09: 14 New
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    Goering turned over in his coffin, looking at such air forces.
  8. Asad 27 March 2020 09: 15 New
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    I’m sorry, yesterday two of our planes crashed, one pilot died, they are looking for the second, but how did they get water into their mouths in VO?
    1. Sky strike fighter 27 March 2020 10: 01 New
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      Yesterday they wrote about this in the morning, there was an article on these incidents at VO. You were just late.
      two of our planes crashed yesterday

      Not yesterday, but the day before yesterday.
      Here is a link to the article
      https://topwar.ru/169440-prodolzhajutsja-poiski-letchika-upavshego-v-chernoe-more-su-27.html
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      5-9 27 March 2020 12: 42 New
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      Shaw, did yours from Hel-ha-Avir also hit?
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    Somewhere money must be put in, because industry (as elsewhere) has practically stood up.
  10. Pashhenko Nikolay 27 March 2020 09: 35 New
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    It is interesting that the option of delivering a freely falling nuclear bomb to a target by a fighter is still seriously considered. Will it definitely overcome air defense? And if it is no longer there, then the point of dropping the bomb is no longer there.
    1. Thunderbolt 27 March 2020 12: 31 New
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      Not certainly in that way. The USA has already begun to deploy the latest modification in Europe --- B61-12. It is controlled-guided, to deal with buried shelters.

  11. svp67 27 March 2020 09: 36 New
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    The plan to replace the Tornado has not yet been approved, but it is known that Germany is planning to acquire up to 90 Eurofighter Typhoons, 30 F / A-18E / F and 15 EA-18G in the coming years.
    All the "old and tested" airplanes, but where is the "newfangled" F-35 Lightning?
  12. 32363 27 March 2020 09: 39 New
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    where are the Messerschmitts, the plant but there are no planes?
    1. Kurare 27 March 2020 10: 35 New
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      where are the Messerschmitts, the plant but there are no planes?

      Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm is what came from Messerschmitt. Since 1989, it has become a division of DASA.
      1. 32363 27 March 2020 10: 43 New
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        Quote: Kurare
        Quote: 32363
        where are the Messerschmitts, the plant but there are no planes?

        Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm is what came from Messerschmitt. Since 1989, it has become a division of DASA.

        right now it’s like Eurotech, it seems, once tried to get a job there, they didn’t take it.
  13. Klingon 27 March 2020 09: 47 New
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    Quote: Dreamboat
    Interestingly, Germany (a very poor country!) Is going to rearm on 4-generation aircraft (4+ is still 4), and not buy F-35s from the hegemon, like smaller countries with dwarf armies!
    According to the Typhoons, this can be attributed to protectionism, but according to F / A-18?

    because unlike dwarf, impoverished but loud-barking countries, some have brains not to sit on a needle with the F-35 wassat Typhoons themselves were developed together with Italians. I don’t know about super bumblebees. but are they probably cheaper than penguins?
    1. voyaka uh 27 March 2020 11: 19 New
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      Super Hornets cost as much as an F-35.
      But inter-flight maintenance is much cheaper.
      The capabilities of the F-35 in comparison with the Super Hornet are at least 2: 1.
      So the decision is "budgetary", and not military.
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    LMN 27 March 2020 10: 02 New
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    There is a small mistake.
    I can’t attach a screen in the appeal.
    Aircraft tornadoes are separately written. request
  15. Victor March 47 27 March 2020 10: 19 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    т

    It is not Russia that threatens Germany. Threatens the USA. Do everything to keep up, that remain obedient, but do you need to show the elements of independence? Please, you .....
  16. sanik2020 27 March 2020 12: 08 New
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    In recent years, everyone knew about the German Air Force only that each commission found that only 20-25% of their fleet was in flight-suitable condition, and this was in satisfying times. Now, suddenly such a massive replacement in the conditions of recession and general isolation. And how many of the new aircraft will they be able to operate and how much to keep in joke?
    Somehow the Germans' decision smacks of a change in the fleet right now. This is against the background of the fact that Merkel said that more than 70 percent of Germans would fall ill; and that this virus is the most serious test for Germans since WWII.

    All Western films show that when the number of infected people cannot be stopped, the country's government resorts to nuclear or napalm bombing of doomed cities.
    Or maybe this is the plan of the Merkel government?
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    5-9 27 March 2020 12: 39 New
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    30 F / A-18E / F and 15 EA-18G
    What the heck? Why not the native pogrudno-Teutonic-British-Italian Typhoon, which is an analogue of the meager Super Hornet?

    93 Panavia Tornado aircraft and 141 Typhoons aircraft.
    At least 30 pieces of each grade can rise into the air?
    What is the problem to gash the EW version of Typhoon?
  18. Ros 56 27 March 2020 12: 47 New
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    The Germans, as an aviation power, were blown away, so presumably. Well, with gynecologists as defense ministers, they are not yet waiting for them.
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      Quote: Ros 56
      The Germans, as an aviation power, were blown away, so presumably. Well, with gynecologists as defense ministers, they are not yet waiting for them.

      it seems so, but the first to break through into space, another October 3, 1942 wink
      1. Ros 56 27 March 2020 13: 11 New
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        And who is their first astronaut, as far as I remember, he flew on our rocket.
        1. Pashhenko Nikolay 27 March 2020 14: 51 New
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          Sigmund Jena: Died recently, September 21, 2019.
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            Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
            Sigmund Jena: Died recently, September 21, 2019.
            this one flew on the soviet, and 25.02.1945 was the first flight with a man on board.
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  19. SovAr238A 27 March 2020 19: 49 New
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    For some reason, I learned about the Superstairs in Germany for the first time from this article ...
    Missed it. thanks to the author.
  20. Sergey Goncharenko (LoV) 28 March 2020 10: 46 New
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    Germany has always been - "in front of the planet" in the design of aircraft .... now buy in the US ... SHAME ...
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      Quote: Sergey Goncharenko (LoV)
      Germany has always been - "in front of the planet" in the design of aircraft .... now buy in the US ... SHAME ...


      When was that?
      Almost 100 years ago?

      What was in service with the German Air Force from the moment of defeat in WWII until the Tornado?