In Chinese Sohu: Only one country has hypersonic weapons, and this is neither Russia nor the United States

The Chinese information resource Sohu came out with material on hypersonic weapons. The author, who apparently decided to give out a “sensation of home cooking,” announced that there is only one country in the world that today has “real hypersonic weapon", And this is" not Russia and not the United States. "

From the material:

Today in the world there is only one real hypersonic missile. And it is in the arsenal of China, and not Russia and the United States.

An article in the Chinese media claimed that the United States had great technical difficulties in creating hypersonic weapons and was now making up for lost opportunities.

Sohu:

John Hayten, deputy chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recently said the U.S. military wasted 20 precious years.

The Chinese author is sure that we are talking about the years when "the United States missed the opportunity to get their own hypersonic weapons."

From the material:

Although Russia relies on the legacy left by the Soviet Union in terms of hypersonic weapons and is mostly ahead of the United States, it is still far behind China. The lack of investment has led to a slow advance in hypersonic weapon technology. At the same time, doubts about the presence of hypersonic weapons in Russia, including Zircon hypersonic missiles, are voiced by many, including the United States.

Further, the author concludes, stating that “the only hypersonic missile in the world that is currently in service is the Chinese DF-17.

From the article:

China is the only country to have a hypersonic missile and dare to show it in public.

Apparently, the Chinese author is really poorly familiar with modern weapons and does not know that the Russian Armed Forces are armed with, for example, the “Dagger” hypersonic missile system. Based on this, the material in Sohu can be attributed to the Chinese version of ostentatious cheers-patriotism.

Comments

[Ilya-spb]

I want the Chinese to believe in their own omnipotence.

Blessed is he who believes, warmth in the world! (with).

And we need to develop our technologies. Let them look and envy!

[Tatyana]

This Chinese man actually has patriotism "off scale"!

[Hagalaz]

If someone doesn’t have something and maybe still will not be soon, then it is necessary to declare vigorously what is. And there you go, check whether it is so or not. Information war however .

[Vadim237]

The fact that the Chinese hypersonic missiles in the picture are ordinary models. But the publication should promote its domestic cardboard and plastic crafts - suddenly the demand for modelers will appear.

[Essex62]

Large-scale models, they, indeed, make very high-quality. They have already bypassed the Japanese, both in terms of assortment and in specimens.

[orionvitt]

What the Chinese are really good at is massively riveting cheap consumer goods, and that is based on other people's technologies. Everything else they have, to put it mildly, so-so. And in aviation, and in military equipment. It may in some places be good, but far, not the best.

[demo]

What the Chinese are really good at is massively riveting cheap consumer goods, and that is based on other people's technologies.
Let's divide this sentence into two parts.
First.
Cheap consumer goods.
This statement is very controversial.
Since all mass-produced gadgets - from telephone to computer - are made in China.
Second.
Foreign technology.
Rummage in the official data of the PRC and see how many assembly enterprises of world brands: car manufacturing companies, engine-building, metal-working, etc., have their own enterprises in the PRC.
These enterprises produce products based on technologies that were transferred to the PRC by the developers themselves.
And these products go to those countries that want to have such products.
I don’t think it is necessary to defame China so indiscriminately.
Everything is more complicated than such an entrenched statement - China makes consumer goods.

The word consumer goods, in our use, has acquired too negative meaning.
Although widespread consumption is not low quality, it is a degree of need.

[orionvitt]

Quote: demo

mass-produced gadgets - from phone to computer -

And this is what you think, not consumer goods? Or are you one of those for whom a smartphone and laptop are the top of human civilization? Everything that is mass produced is consumer goods by definition, and China is ahead of the rest here. Quality is another matter.

look at how many assembly enterprises of world brands: have their own enterprises in China.

So what am I talking about.

[NEXUS]

Quote: orionvitt

Or are you one of those for whom a smartphone and laptop are the top of human civilization?

Show then the DOMESTIC laptop for the layman, since it is all that simple.

[Ponchik78]

We make a laptop or smartphone is not a problem. Just because of the mass production, they will cost more than the Chinese and no one will buy them. But the manufacture of a copy of the Su-35 engine was not possible for the Chinese)
The division of labor rules the world))) Someone makes consumer goods (laptops, smartphones), and someone makes high-tech (aircraft engines, nuclear reactors).

[orionvitt]

Don't pay too much attention. Just comrade NEXUS, really one of those for whom a laptop and a smartphone are the top of everything. They have never seen anything else in life, and due to their limitations, they mold children's fairy tales about someone's "superiority". Don't be surprised, there are half of them.

[Campanella]

Just a problem! There is no element base. As far as I remember, we bought 65 nm technology. But there are no technologies of their own.

[AlexeyD]

Everything is! And there is an element base! It’s just that you apparently didn’t set out to search for elements.
And the processors have their own, by the way, the latest options are not bad enough.
There are problems in the industry. I’ll tell you more there are companies that manufacture boards of any complexity, at least they will get sick in 32 layers!

[Campanella]

Boards are nonsense, we could do 80 layers in the 15th year. Well, maybe we bought 32nm, but the west at 14nm is already doing everything. However, the issue is not layers and discrete, but in the school which crumbled. And for the school to work, you need to work for the final result, you need a state program for the development of the industry. And this, as I understand it, is not.

[Fishery]

look at your comp))

[xBrigax]

Look at the computer in the control units of the means of delivery, your super game for 150000 rubles (I think that is not worse) from which you write is 10 years behind.

[Fishery]

))) it’s not cold or hot from the means of delivery, these are of course important piece products) but you can’t fill the economy with them

[xBrigax]

Without them (means of delivery) you would live or would already have lived in the Republic of Saratov or in the Republic of Voronezh (underline or enter your own), and I would be in the Republic of Sochi and we would not be different from each other and Somalia, other Zimbabwe.
For this reason, you really are not cold and not hot, you are comfortable in your apartment, calm, without war and warm ..

[Campanella]

Why do you think so? There are usually special controllers, there are no computers there.

[mvg]

Living with the brain, or whatever you think it is, the last century, is not prohibited. Only in China we drive wood, oil and gas, and we import computers, gadgets, turbines, machine tools, cars, etc. Can you tell me whose cars there ride on the moon? How many satellites does Glonass have, and how many do the Chinese have?

[blackice]

Well, let's throw this thought into its components.
1. Yes, we drive gas oil to China, etc. .. It is undeniable.
2. We import - computers, gadgets, machine tools, turbines, cars.
Also undeniable. But ..... Let's be honest, who created all this? No, I didn’t assemble it, I didn’t make it, but I created it!
To draw a car, buy a license, assemble from other people's blanks is certainly good. So to say entrepreneurial vein. But they can’t do their own with 0. Again, the same engine for airplanes. If they are so straight-laced, why can't they do it?
Conclusion, steal and repeat is one thing. To do something new that others do not have is different and there is a problem with it.
So far, I have not seen any breakthroughs in the production of new weapons. And you can brag about who has a longer bolt indefinitely. But when the time comes to take off the pants, then it will be clear to whom the hole will be more flared.

[Campanella]

To sketch correctly, you need to have an engineering school, otherwise nothing good will come of it. I personally believe that the Chinese have made hypersound. I don’t think that from scratch, I think we have “looked” something in our developments, the rest have been finished by ourselves.

[blackice]

That is, the aircraft engine could not, but more sophisticated technology mastered?
The logic of blondie?

[Campanella]

Could not because the engines were specially modified and important details made inseparable.
Blondie is you.

[blackice]

Ahhhh !!!
Well yes!!!!
They could not copy, but they could create !!!
Surely!!!! How did I not understand the elementary?
Instead of at least learning how to copy dviglo 5 generations, switched to the release immediately 6?
How did I not immediately understand the tricky Chinese move?

[Campanella]

What are you so hot about?
All mixed in a bunch.
You do not understand what is a copy and a product of your own design?
If there are ideas and appropriate technology, then the Chinese can create 10 generation. But making a copy is more difficult. A lot of nuances.
A copy can be made, but it will differ from the original and conditionally, saying it can be either worse or better (which is extremely rare, I honestly don’t remember)
Here the Chinese, for example, cloned s-zoo, but with slightly worse parameters, but this does not matter at tasty prices.
The worst or other parameters of the product are made up of different things: structural features, materials, technological equipment, from the hands in the end. Direct logic does not always work as you see ..

[blackice]

Do you speak technology?
And I thought a scientific school in this matter steers. No?
Having a lathe at home, but not having a clue in metal processing, can you make a lot of quality parts?

The worst or other parameters of the product are made up of different things: structural features, materials, technological equipment, from the hands in the end. Direct logic does not always work as you see ..

How is this direct logic not working here? This is direct logic.
Once again, for the gifted, to collect, copy and do something new, completely different things. China has enough scientific potential for copying, and not all, but its own developments in the field of aviation, rocket science, and weapons are not particularly.
And this is not an undeniable fact.
If I collect a rocket on a firecracker at home and call it hypersonic, will you believe it too?

[Campanella]

You read carefully, I wrote if there are ideas and relevant technologies. A science school is a general concept. In the USSR there was academic science and industry.
So academic science rules in science, not in development.
Industry science is involved in product development. When writing should understand these things.
I see you do not have a specialized education and you think like a left-hander. The development of modern weapons is a complex process, not a "build and make"!
If you assemble a rocket on your knee, then of course no one will believe you, it’s so collected from nothing in Hollywood ...

[blackice]

So academic science rules in science, not in development.
Industry science is involved in product development. When writing should understand these things.
I see that you do not have a specialized education and you reason like a left-handed person.

Seriously????
Well, so what about the Chinese with DEVELOPMENTS, comrade not a lefty, with a specialized education?
I’m just a mechanical engineer by training. So, all Chinese products have some kind of suspicious appearance of copies of foreign manufactures.

[Campanella]

Use other people's ideas and
operating time is normal, everyone indulges in it. And China is using it on a larger scale.
But this does not mean that they do not have their own developments. Launching a rocket into space is not so easy without its developers.
Have you ever worked in your specialty?
I once worked for 13 years in the defense industry, so I know what I'm writing about and my specialized education is an engineer-designer-technologist of REA.

[blackice]

Have you ever worked in your specialty?
I once worked for 13 years in the defense industry, so I know what I'm writing about and my specialized education is an engineer-designer-technologist of REA.

And now I work in my specialty. And before that he worked in his specialty. And he served in the specialty.
But back to the Chinese rams.
So, what kind of INNOVATION did the Chinese introduce into their own products?
You can copy to infinity what others are already doing. But it will be at least two steps behind competitors. But to CREATE their own, new, something that others do not yet have, China somehow does not work. Refute the facts.
I have already read about rockets, satellites, space, but again I recall the suspicious similarity with Russian-made products. Or rather, even Soviet. No?

[Campanella]

Copying undoubtedly determines the role of an outsider if there is no definite strategy for the development of one’s own science and technology.
In favor of the fact that the Chinese have a strategy, says the training of Chinese in the best Western scientific schools at the state expense.
If I were a Chinese, I would also tear off everything I needed if possible and build my school in parallel.
By copying you are pulling the production and technological base to the world, and by developing your own science you are creating the opportunity for the Chinese themselves to storm the heights of technological progress. I think we need to wait 10-20 years and all this will manifest itself.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: orionvitt

What the Chinese are really good at is massively riveting cheap consumer goods

And they massively buy scientists and create conditions for them to work

[Campanella]

Here they copy the States.
But it is important to understand that they are simultaneously creating their own scientific school.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Campanella

Here they copy the States.

And Stalin began all in industrialization ??? ++

[Campanella]

Stalin did the same in his time.

[aybolyt678]

+++ Thank you! we have a rare unanimity!

[mole]

Quote: Tatiana

This Chinese man actually has patriotism "off scale"!

Spring Fever?!

[Tatyana]

Quote: Mole

Quote: Tatiana

This Chinese man actually has patriotism "off scale"!

Spring Fever?!

Apparently, yes - against the backdrop of the "coronavirus" pandemic in China itself and around the world.

[mikh-korsakov]

So I want to figure it out. so who is lying?

[CTEPX]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

I want to figure it out.

Here you have a rather balanced opinion https://russian.rt.com/world/article/673411-knr-giperzvuk-oruzhie

[Timofey Cherepov]

Not for the first time, and somehow it starts to wedge

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Tatiana

This Chinese man actually has patriotism "off scale"!

Such a Chinese D. Majumdar. Also an "analyst" ...

[Finches]

Kitaeza is right ... Only the name of Chinese hypersound is called a little differently - COVID-19

[novel66]

Well, they started it in peacetime ... started breaking so many plans

[mikh-korsakov]

Evgeniy! Not in the subject, but painful. I am sure that COVID-19 has caused and will still cause damage to the economy, will take away human lives - each is priceless. But out of nowhere, a bunch of writers appeared with their fingers on the keyboard, who express their predictions, become like famous characters in life who do not work themselves, do not know how to work properly, observe how others work, and exclaim: "where I took it, it was not so necessary." Today I have to listen to a certain lady who graduated from a medical university 25 years ago and then fled to Italy to work as a guide. Interspersed with abuse of the Italian government, incompetent in this. let them figure it out, she showed utter stupidity that masks do not need to be worn, because the virus is so small that it can easily crawl into the gap between the threads, and quarantine is not needed, because the room is stale from microbes, and viruses are free to move no. How do you like this? These are the people crawling out of the cracks, but someone will believe, because at first glance it is logical.

[Finches]

Here you can only recall the old man Einstein with his aphorism about the infinity of the universe and even greater infinity of human stupidity!

[demo]

Along with scolding the Italian government, this is incompetent. let them figure it out, she showed utter stupidity that you don’t need to wear a mask, because the virus is so small that it easily crawls between the threads, and you don’t need quarantine, because the room has stale air from germs, and the viruses go free no. How do you like this?
We are fine.
Viruses exhibit a huge variety of shapes and sizes. As a rule, viruses are much smaller than bacteria. Most viruses studied have diameters ranging from 20 to 300 nm. Some filoviruses have a length of up to 1400 nm, but their diameter is only 80 nm.
Now look at the "cell" of the mask and compare their sizes.
And everything will fall into place. [B] [/ b]

[Pushkar]

Quote: demo

Now look at the "cell" of the mask and compare their sizes.

So the mask and bacteria will not hold back. It retains biological material (say, saliva spray when coughing and sneezing) and dust, which are carriers of the virus.

[demo]

Thats exactly what I mean.
The mask does not save anyone from anything.

[mikh-korsakov]

Wang. the mesh size of the mask is 0,3 microns, that is, the lady is right in this. The thing is that viruses do not move through the air by themselves - they do not have wings. They are inside the patient's drip during coughing and sneezing. When hit by objects such as door handles, etc. the droplets dry, but a film of organic impurities to the droplets is retained. Over time, the film is wiped with the hands of people, in each case differently - hence the discrepancy in hazard data. But this is a completely different story.

[demo]

Yes, and I, in general, about this.
You can put on a gas mask, but you still have to remove it, but here your hands are not washed.
Or surrounding objects had contact with virus carriers.
In order to protect yourself from viruses, you need to fundamentally change your attitude to hygiene.
And this is impossible to do in a week or two.
I tell my granddaughter 10 times a day not to touch anything: neither in the elevator, nor in the general. transport, nowhere, in general.
And does not reach.
I think I’ll start shaking hands (a joke).
So it is here.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: demo

Now look at the "cell" of the mask and compare their sizes

THE MIDDLE AGES of our consciousness of a very average person

[telobezumnoe]

well, about the masks she’s right, of course there are virus particles capable of delaying ffp3, but these are not ordinary medical masks, in Soviet analogues they were even recommended to be glued to the face to prevent leaks .. and so, the mask is once again a desire to touch face to face and the maximum benefit from them is only if you are already sick and when sneezing your snot will fly apart not so far, and you need fresh air, just without contact with other people

[maidan.izrailovich]

I want the Chinese to believe in their own omnipotence.

I want to believe....
But in fact, Beijing creeps in front of Washington. A bunch of formidable statements, but in fact every time compromises on American terms.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Ilya-spb

I want the Chinese to believe in their own omnipotence.

Quote: Tatiana

This Chinese man actually has patriotism "off scale"!

Quote: Hagalaz

If someone doesn’t have something and maybe still will not be soon, then it is necessary to declare vigorously what is.

Quote: orionvitt

What the Chinese are really good at is massively riveting cheap consumer goods (by the way, they come across quality ones)

In Chinese Sohu: Only one country has hypersonic weapons, and this is neither Russia nor the United States

HUNT THIS “SOHU” I ...

[Insurgent]

In Chinese Sohu: Only one country has hypersonic weapons, and this is neither Russia nor the United States

Quote: ROSS 42

HUNT THIS “SOHU” I ...

And do not believe

The main thing is that in the absence of hypersonic weapons in Russia, the Chinese themselves and the United States

Let them relax and rest on the "laurels of the winners", not suspecting that the furry animal can sneak up unnoticed.

[Rustic i ......]

While China is ahead of the whole planet - the expression of serious WARNINGS. Otherwise, all copies are therefore cheap, at the level of short-lived consumer goods. There is such a thing as "Chinese metal", that is, the material that can fail at any moment.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Ilya-spb

I want the Chinese to believe in their own omnipotence.

Interestingly, over the past 30 years, the Chinese have made such a leap that we would still learn from them. And if the pace of development will continue to be so, then hell we will chase after them.
As for the topic of the article ... well, he said, well, he said ... I look here many have direct heartburn from this Chinese talking room. To say is not to have.

[blackice]

To draw a car, buy a license, assemble from other people's blanks is certainly good. So to say entrepreneurial vein. But they can’t do their own with 0. Again, the same engine for airplanes. If they are so straight-laced, why can't they do it?
Conclusion, steal and repeat is one thing. To do something new that others do not have is different and there is a problem with it.
So far, I have not seen any breakthroughs in the production of new weapons. And you can brag about who has a longer bolt indefinitely. But when the time comes to take off the pants, then it will be clear to whom the hole will be more flared.

[mitroha]

What is this "moment of humor"? Are drugs allowed in China?

[Ilya-spb]

Why drugs at once? There is a product in China - Confucius. Rice vodka, 50 degrees.

[Dmitry Bolotsky]

And, by the way, a rare muck ...

[demo]

If a month is another drink only THIS, then you get used to it.
I know for myself.
And the first time I tried ......... !!!!!!! Wow

[maidan.izrailovich]

What is this "moment of humor"?

Side effect of coronavirus.

[WHAT IS]

You will not praise yourself, no one will praise.

[mitroha]

Treated one, and crippled another?
Warm up before the first of April

[_Sergei_]

The Chinese gave a complication to the brain.

[jura-19]

The Chinese can be trusted, but Putin’s cartoons don’t. He has already proved that he’s empty-handed

[rocket757]

this time the "frog" croaked too loudly and the crane may, maybe ... in general, the output is always the same and the "frog" will obviously not like it, in the future.

[Dimy4]

And they also have Star Destroyer class cruisers (many), Death Stars (3 pieces), a time machine (one truth) and so on.

[maidan.izrailovich]

The consequences of a pandemic?

[Pushkar]

"You haven't watched the movie?" (Brother 2).

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Clear. It is Ukraine! Hypersonic pan vertical take-off.

[tlauicol]

looks futuristic against the background of the Iskander / Dagger, and the head is a detachable glider

[Do not care]

This is better seen:

[Tektor]

By indirect indications, it looks like a gliding warhead, which, maneuvering deflected surfaces, rushes to a target with known coordinates or a known "picture" stored in memory. Those. it has no engine, no radio exchange, i.e. there is no possibility of self-destruction when canceling the order, there is no retargeting in flight. Pig-iron. Such blocks were put on the Voevoda in the late 80s.

[Vadim237]

By all indications, this is nothing more than a beautiful model of a hypersonic missile, since no country in the world that created hypersonic planning blocks will ever put them on public display in view of the secrecy of the aerodynamic forms and features of the airframe itself.

[Asad]

Chinese parades are interesting to watch!

[napalm]

Chinese parades are interesting to watch! Especially women's boxes. But they surpass the fact in quantity soon and catch up in quality. Technicians of course

[fider]

Khrushchov also carried rocket models filled with sand at the parade, so that the weight corresponded.

[askort154]

Today in the world there is only one real hypersonic rocket ...

How is one? Do not be shy author. We see in the photo - they are lying in your stacks.

[Dmitry Potapov]

Did I miss the start of a new opium war ???

[Mountain shooter]

At the parade showed? They showed. They said that the planning hypersonic unit ... They said. What else do you need? Show test frames? Well, it’s in vain bent. This is a secret! I remember, a few years ago, they also tried to demonstrate an underwater boat. Supersonic Chinese ... and not the first of April, which is typical.
Strictly according to Sun Tzu. Deceived the enemy - half won the war.

[Dmitry Bolotsky]

Exactly - Sun! This is the foundation of the basics!

[Yngvar]

"Sohu" is an analogue of the Soviet newspaper "Pravda". What to expect from her is, of course, only the praise of her beloved ... Well, in terms of hypersound, the indicator is the absence of a reliable analogue of engines for aircraft, even our engines could not copy! Remember - the very, very fifth generation aircraft is Chinese (again "Sohu") ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Yngvar

"Sohu" is an analogue of the Soviet newspaper "Pravda".

The analogue of the Soviet newspaper Pravda is Renmin Ribao (the press organ of the Central Committee of the CPC). Sohu - Russian AiF - or just an analog ...

[cniza]

No, this is pioneering truth ...

[Butchcassidy]

Soviet "Pravda" wrote the truth, as practice shows. Of course, the writing style could be special and the conclusions, but the texture was reliable.

But this cannot be said about Soh.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: ButchCassidy

Soviet "Pravda" wrote the truth, as practice shows. Of course, the writing style could be special and the conclusions, but the texture was reliable.

You do not explain to me what was written in Pravda, what is in Izvestia and what is in Red Star. Just one example:

Will you give something “to cut off” that it was written here that it was precisely because Tereshkova “failed” the flight program that Korolev refused to send women into space?
And, while printing articles about the Vietnam War, did they indicate the presence of Soviet military experts ironing the American Phantoms?
This "Truth", who needs truth, is an organ of the CPSU Central Committee.

[Butchcassidy]

Dear, please read what you wrote and think. Maybe you are not at the address? I talked about the texture that Sohu reports.

PS What makes you think that the Pravda newspaper should write ALL the truth about everything, especially the one that can harm the national security of the state? Her task is not to write lies. But Sokhu openly lies in the spirit of petty nationalist propaganda (gee-gee, it's funny to say "shallow" about 1 billion population)))

[My doctor]

Quote: Yngvar

"Sohu" is an analogue of the Soviet newspaper "Pravda". What to expect from her is, naturally, only praise from her beloved ...

In the Soviet newspaper Pravda, as I heard, only reliable information was printed, or not at all.

[Ros 56]

Soohu chatterbox in his repertoire. Well, a drum on their neck and at the head of the column going to / from ...., in general, wherever they wish.

[svp67]

Apparently, the Chinese author is really poorly familiar with modern weapons and does not know about

all warheads of ballistic missiles reach the target at hypersonic speed, even those that were released in the 60s at factories of the USSR and the USA

[tlauicol]

No. All warheads slow down in dense layers to supersonic

[svp67]

Quote: Tlauicol

No. All warheads slow down in dense layers to supersonic

That's just not. To overcome missile defense, they can accelerate to 15 Machs, only they didn’t know how to maneuver, then

[Vadim237]

How will the warheads be dispersed in you? They only have a turbojet engine to spin around its axis for greater accuracy when entering the atmosphere.

[svp67]

Quote: Vadim237

How will the warheads be dispersed in you? They only have a turbojet engine to spin around its axis for greater accuracy when entering the atmosphere.

Due to the "stage of separation of blocks" and the force of gravity

[tlauicol]

https://masterok.livejournal.com/3410660.html
They brake to 3max. You post pictures without reading?

[svp67]

Quote: Tlauicol

You post pictures without reading?

I carefully read a few articles, and it just talks about speed up to max Mach 15, in order to overcome missile defense
https://army-news.ru/2016/06/boegolovka-kak-ona-rabotaet-posle-otdeleniya-ot-rakety/

Quote: Tlauicol

They brake to 3max.

You yourself carefully read

At this time, the warhead passed the upper limit of the stratosphere - the stratopause - and enters the stratosphere at an altitude of 55 km. It moves now with a hypersonic speed of ten to twelve times faster than sound.

[tlauicol]

Well, read to the end! or are you tired?
above you write "all warheads of ballistic missiles come to the target at hypersonic speed."
I say: no, on supersonic.
about missile defense already post factum

[svp67]

Quote: Tlauicol

about missile defense already post factum

Well yeah you're right

She was very slow. Hypersonic flight degenerated to a supersonic of three to four Mach units. The warhead is already shining dimly, dying away and coming to the point of the target.

[501 Legion]

all according to Zadornov

[Operator]

The Chinese ballistic missile DF-17 is equipped with an HGV guided gliding unit with a triangular cross-section housing, which performs aeroballistic flight in the atmosphere at a speed of ~ 10M along a gentle trajectory with an apogee height of 60 km for a range of 1400 km

[Sky strike fighter]

performs aeroballistic flight in the atmosphere at a speed of ~ 10M along a gentle trajectory with a height of apogee 60 km to a range of 1400 km

It looks like a dagger in terms of performance characteristics. Only a dagger is an air-based aeroballistic missile,
and the DF-17 is a ground-based ballistic missile equipped with an HGV guided planning unit. It is strange that Sohu ignored the avant-garde of the Russian Federation (ground-based ballistic missile + gliding hypersonic unit).

[Operator]

The DF-17 is a modernized Iskander-M, which, instead of a warhead, is equipped with a HGV guided gliding unit with a triangular carrier body, which due to its increased aerodynamic quality has twice the flight range than the Iskander-M warhead.

In contrast to the atmospheric gliding wingless block HGV, the transatmospheric gliding winged block "Avangard" is launched into near-earth orbit by an intercontinental ballistic missile, moves in orbit on the border of the atmosphere and space, has a maximum speed of 27M and a range of 20 thousand km.

[codetalker]

Isn't it strange that they ignored the iskander standing since 2007?)

[Machete]

The Chinese are so anxious to be a great power that, already, it’s cutting their teeth.
But a great country is not a country that has a lot of weapons, but one that can hold a blow in confrontation with other countries.
This is usually.

Americans are a great country, we, too, though with a creak, hold our positions and all the blows.

And China at the slightest pressure merges everything.
The aborted trade war with the United States showed this very well.
At the first blank shot in Trump's trade war, the Chinese surrendered everything. Then they poured us out without a word because of the sanctions, although they beat ourselves in the chest and said that they were our most important friends in the world.
But the money was higher than the friendship and image of the country.
And so, most likely, it will continue.
Now they console themselves in the press that they have the best weapons, the most powerful army, and more ...

[mvg]

what nonsense? China and the United States trade 100 times more than with the Russian Federation, and not in favor of the United States. who do you think they should be friends with?
trade war, agreed, as all normal, make concessions on both sides. BUT, you can get into POSU and suffer billions of losses, sanctions and roll back 10 years ago, to the joy of the Russian Federation. Bingo!
when did the PRC swear to the Russian Federation in friendship? in a drunken-erotic dream?

[Prisoner]

He began to read the headline and laughed. Further it was possible not to read. Sohu is Sohu.

[Pacifist]

The brew is exclusively for domestic consumption ... they also eat rats with snakes ... another culture.

[Lord of the Sith]

Tangerines again burn napalm))
The coronavirus was dried, smoked, now all Sohu unrealistically flatters)))

It will come to the point that there will be no arguments at all, as in a joke, I am Dartanyan, and you all understand who)))

[Vasyan1971]

At the same time, doubts about the presence of hypersonic weapons in Russia, including Zircon hypersonic missiles, are voiced by many, including the United States.

At the same time, there are no and cannot be doubts about the presence of hypersonic weapons in China.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Well, let them flaunt, once the wall didn’t save them.

[bar]

Well, how long can you post nonsense here from this propaganda "Sohu resource"? Why stoop to tabloid level?

[SeregaBoss]

Interestingly, this Chinese patriot, too, the clear-sighted Chinese zachmy ... Criticized. Or they don’t accept it.

[Maks1995]

Who first guessed to call the first cosmic speed Hypersonic - he did well.
And the videoconferencing we called the first.

But the National Guard did not have time to re-name the first, alas.

[Alexey-74]

Chinese man made fun ..... China is the only country with hypersonic weapons, well ... well

[Aliken]

The most absurd thing is the "doubts" about the presence of the SGA in Russia; )))

[30143]

Well, they, like us, give out dreams for reality ...
The same methods. So what? Cartoons will show. Competitors and enemies decided to troll.
I did not understand what this information is for? To shake up patriotism in VO? So that’s not it.
Publication would put a bold minus.
Yes, and without reference to the source.
I, personally, have been checking them lately. And then they will refer, and there it is said about something completely different ...

[KCA]

If China doesn’t have a missile launcher, let the Chinese hang noodles, the Russian Federation and the United States have a missile launcher that’s quite functional, if the Chinese had mega-hypersonic super-missiles, we the Americans would know

[Vadim237]

The Chinese have created a ceramic material capable of withstanding a temperature of 3300 degrees and at the same time preserving their strength properties, but they certainly did not create a control system and guidance in the plasma stream, this task is much more difficult than creating a jet engine with a resource of more than 500 hours - with which they will cope for 20 years so they don’t have any controlled hypersonic weapons, and even in the distant future they won’t appear that they don’t have to mock up parades in parades and clone and rivet iPhone.

[KCA]

It’s far from material science, but even it’s clear to me that in addition to temperature, the material has more than a dozen parameters to consider when manufacturing parts, such as turbine blades, or missile and warhead shells

[Cyrus]

Very soon, I think after the election, the states will explain to China the whole depth of his errors.

[cniza]

Although Russia relies on the legacy left by the Soviet Union in terms of hypersonic weapons and is mostly ahead of the United States, it is still far behind China.

Thank God, rejoice and live in peace.

[Esaul]

And who in this rubbish dump of Sohu just digs around

[Azazelo]

To be honest, they’ve already stepped on to post all the nonsense of this lousy newspaper.

[Yaro Polk]

This he means those fake missiles that in the picture are there, over which the whole world has fallen away from the parade of 2018, like, missiles that have no nozzles?)

[aries2200]

want to be useful .. sometimes women say so ....

[Klingon]

Chinese author made a mistake. real hypersonic weapons appeared in the Klingon Empire from the time of Caless, who used it against the tyrant Molor and then united the scattered Klingon houses into the Klingon Council

[ushakorv]

Sohu = Ren TV

[Per se.]

In Chinese Sohu: Only one country has hypersonic weapons, and this is neither Russia nor the United States

So this is not China then, as the saying goes, "Shura Lifshits (" Sohu ") knows something, does not shed tears in vain" ...

[Artunis]

It is time to end the citation of this publication, which has turned into a yellow press without a hint of objectivity. There’s no point in even discussing it. Faknews in Chinese.

[ork_333]

Quote: demo

Since all mass-produced gadgets - from telephone to computer - are made in China.
Rummage in the official data of the PRC and see how many assembly enterprises of world brands: car manufacturing companies, engine-building, metal-working, etc., have their own enterprises in the PRC.
These enterprises produce products based on technologies that were transferred to the PRC by the developers themselves.

Not all mass produced in China. Assembly plants mean assembly, but not necessarily technology transfer. And in most cases, no one transmits anything. The number of assembly enterprises is due to the cheapness of the workforce, but not to the technical development of the country.

[iouris]

And let the rappers arrange a battle about this! It will be more spectacular, and it will be possible to earn on advertising diapers.

[shark]

Sohu is the Chinese equivalent of Express Newspapers. Why their libel is made public, I sincerely do not understand. What is more serious no?

[iouris]

The public has the information that it deserves.

[Vadim237]

Serious publications are all quarantined - but jaundice, as always, does not take any infection.

[Ragnarek]

The Chinese are generally cool guys. In the comments to read them, so NAOK they invincible straight. That's just not a single war China won, constantly getting a wort

[Chaldon48]

China wants to scare its northern neighbor. In fact, what if it is used and becomes more accommodating?

[Chaldon48]

Written was scared

[chenderoni]

how they copied what is not

[tTshka]

Again Chinese sGspert, did not reach the bottom of the puddle)

[tTshka]

There is factory China, and there is the so-called "shankhaika" ...
So, "plow" is a shankhaika!

[boriz]

Session of public self-satisfaction.

[VladVlad]

This newspaper is like a yellow press, they lie and tremble. They are newspaper men and do not really understand anything. Missile technology has long been out of date. Enemies burst forward in breakthrough technology. But our developers are dumb and do not want to believe in the obvious. The USA has the aerospace TR-3B (and its modifications and drones, there are already a lot of them) invisible to all radars, has super technologies: controls the force of gravity (moving vertically (and without atmosphere)), controls the force of inertia (the pilot does not feel acceleration) , Controls the flow around (no aerodynamic drag). Acceleration at the start of 5 km per second in square meters, in the atmosphere, after 5 seconds the speed is about 15 km per second. The speed in dense layers of the atmosphere is up to 10 km per second. The speed in space is more than 100 km per second. It can carry several thermonuclear charges at such speeds. Fly with impunity over all countries since about 2003, radars do not see them !!!!! There are many videos proving this. Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation received them. These are stolen US Soviet technology of the 80s. The United States introduced these technologies, but in Russia they do not want to introduce them. Why?

[Naughty]

Quote: Jura-19

The Chinese can be trusted, but Putin’s cartoons don’t. He has already proved that he’s empty-handed

We will believe without question. But let them first say from whom the technology of these missiles was stolen or copied?

[Burbulator]

A bold conclusion from the Chinese publication.

[Shkodnik65]

China is the only country that has a hypersonic missile and dares to show it publicly.
Sohu Publishing House is an analogue of Zen, where, as you know, such pearls are found that mother don’t cry. Therefore, I don’t understand why this, in my opinion, serious resource should be used with all sorts of Chinese crap? Well, you never know who will write something somewhere! IMHO.

[Leonid Har]

As the hero of the Matrix said: “Ignorance is bliss!” The author of the Chinese article simply reeks of happiness.

[Victor March 47]

The author decided to rehabilitate himself for the past, and Mao’s quotation book is burning the lining of his jacket. What will you do in the name of expunging your criminal record for respecting the USSR and making favorable statements towards it?

[Igor Dvornikov]

Who did they rip it off from then?

[Dmitry Ivanov_6]

No one has hypersonic missile weapons and will not have them for a long time. accelerating a missile to hypersonic speeds is not a problem at all, but no one in the world has solved the problem of guiding such a weapon during the final phase of the flight.

[telobezumnoe]

Well, why... the same inertial guidance systems have been used for a long time, the only question is accuracy

[Dmitry Ivanov_6]

inertial systems were used against stationary targets with previously known coordinates. By the way, there have been such “hypersonic” missiles since the 70s, for example the X-15. but there can be no talk of any kind of shooting at ships like zircon. The question is precisely in active guidance.

[Dzungar]

They can’t make a good aircraft engine, but they “made” a hypersonic missile...... The Chinese information resource Sohu is turning into some kind of cheap publication, where those who have nothing more to say write

[Kostadinov]

Still, Sohu wrote the truth. Only the Chinese demonstrated this at a military parade. This may be cardboard, while others have real products, but to date no one else has shown them to the public.

[ustal1951]

Just don’t agree with those who overly praise and extol you.

[Anchonsha]

Well, okay, let's believe the Chinese and no, let's deny. Guys, we need to get ahead of China. We now still have an ally against the United States, sometimes dubious, but still....

[rotkiv04]

The main thing is that the narrow-film ones are confident that they have it, and Russia will adopt it without noise and dust

[silver_roman]

sohu is apparently the Chinese branch of The national interests. the same trash yellow newspaper

[pepel]

The Chinese and their J20 with third-generation engines are a fifth-generation aircraft that has no competitors.

[IL-64]

You're already fed up with constantly quoting this idiotic Sohu. Have you subscribed or what?

[Mentat]

Quote: demo

Since all mass-produced gadgets - from telephone to computer - are made in China.

Do not confuse assembly according to transmitted production instructions with equipment and in-house production using your own technologies.
Why are you spouting this nonsense again?

[dva2017]

The Chinese have problems with the engines of conventional aircraft, but here is hypersound... funny, but only for the moment.

[tolmachiev51]

The Chinese brothers are starting to “star”; they have caught the American infection.

[ZVS]

The Chinese remind me of stupid children trying to get attention by deception.
Well, what kind of hypersonic missile? They don’t know how to create a jet engine from scratch, and then suddenly there’s hypersound. The destiny of the Chinese are air lanterns and fakes. This is their lot.

[Gorbunov Artem]

The Chinese are in front of the entire planet. They did not renounce socialism, and the whole country, in a single impulse, copied, clipped, disassembled, and studied. While the whole world turned up its nose but bought everything (EVERYTHING) Chinese. The Chinese are ahead of everyone in both technology and production. As for us (Russia), we sold everything, lost it, plundered it, screwed it up. And now from every iron we say how great we are. No shit, the brains have flown abroad, and those who remained by inertia to come up with something were faced with a lack of money and technology. You may not believe it, or you may continue to lie to yourself that we are the most technologically advanced country.

[mmaxx]

Writing about something with Sohu is no longer funny. It’s not clear who writes it’s not clear what it’s not clear where, and also in Chinese. It’s better to write to VO news from our garbage aggregators. At least it’s in Russian.

[Sergej1972]

Is this publication even official Chinese, that is, reflecting the policies of the PRC and CCP authorities? Or does it express the opinions of a group of social activists? That is, like our Military Review?)) Or are they some Hong Kong enthusiasts? I don't know, please enlighten me.

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

Don't turn around the bags!