March 27 - Day of the troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation

On March 27, troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation (Rosguard) celebrate their professional holiday. We are talking about the power structure, which for many years was called the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, first of the USSR, and then of Russia.

Moreover, his history the power structure has been leading from the beginning of the year before last, and over many years truly heroic pages, including pages from the times of the Great Patriotic War, are inscribed in this story, as the director of the Federal Service for Troops of the Russian Guard, army commander, Army General Viktor Zolotov recalls:

Dear comrades, dear veterans!

I cordially congratulate you on our professional holiday - the Day of the Troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation!

For 209 years of its existence, the troops took part in all significant events in the history of the Russian state.

The feats of law and order soldiers who fought on the fields of the Patriotic War of 1812 and on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War forever extinguished the flames of ethnic conflicts in the territory of the post-Soviet space and defended the constitutional order and statehood of new Russia are forever inscribed in the heroic annals.

Representatives of the Russian Guard today are involved in a variety of operations and activities in the country. This is not only the protection of law and order, important state facilities, escort of special cargoes, but also participation in counter-terrorism operations together with other special forces and law enforcement agencies.

At one time, servicemen of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, which actually became the basis of the troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation, were directly involved in operations against the international terrorist conglomerate in the North Caucasus. Sacrificing their lives, they did everything in their power to deliver a crushing blow to terrorism, which was trying to destroy the constitutional system of Russia and lead the Russian Federation to disintegration and interfaith, interethnic strife. For this, many thanks to them!

Military Review congratulates all employees of the Russian Guard, veterans of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs on their professional holiday and wishes to continue to defend the Fatherland and express the interests of the people!

Comments

[Pessimist22]

And for me, the Russian Guard is not for the people, but for protecting the property of the bourgeoisie and the oligarchs, my personal opinion.
When the rich rob the poor, this is business, and when the poor rob the rich, this is violence, now it is.

[Stas157]

March 27 - Day troop National Guard Russian Federation

It would be better if she weren’t.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Stas157

It would be better if she weren’t.

There would be a BB. Sorry for the guys in the light of impending events. They are used as a laying between the government and the people, and they will betray them like the Golden Eagle in Ukraine.

[CSKA]

Quote: Ingvar 72

There would be a BB.

There is no difference between BB and Rosguard as current.

Quote: Ingvar 72

Sorry for the guys in the light of impending events.

What events?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: CSKA

What events?

You will see this when in September, the EP will rig the vote in the elections. The people are no longer that wordless, inert mass.

[CSKA]

Quote: Ingvar 72

You will see this when in September, the EP will rig the vote in the elections. The people are no longer that wordless, inert mass.

Well, of course, they will rig the vote, you do not vote for them, which means they will rig the vote.

[Vadim237]

Do not worry about your impending events in Russia, no one will see or feel. Cope with your own events.

[Varyag_0711]

Stas157 (Stas)
It would be better if she weren’t.

So when the bearded uncles come to your house, raped your wife, let your daughter go around, and then they sell them as a thing, they sell your son into slavery, and you cut your throat after all this, then you will tell them that.
Well, the guys and I will be so, we will not intervene, we will have a smoke aside, see how you yourself will deal with everything ...

[76rtbr]

To do this, there is the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and this gang did not participate anywhere except for broken cups and car chases when they couldn’t figure out how to open the gate, there is a video!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: 76rtbr

To do this, there is the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and this gang did not participate anywhere except for broken cups and car chases when they couldn’t figure out how to open the gate, there is a video!

Actually, the WGs are the former Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation.
The current Ministry of Internal Affairs inspection report can make up - the Ministry of Internal Affairs no longer has any explosives, no riot police, or special forces.

[Stas157]

Quote: Varyag_0711

bearded uncles will come to your house, rape your wife, let your daughter go aroundand then they will sell as a thing, they will sell your son into slavery, and after all this, you’ll cut your throat yourselfthen you’ll tell them that.
Ну and we guys so be it, we will not intervene, let's stand aside for a smoke

And I, Alexei, have no doubt at all! And I do not expect anything good from you. Well, why the hell is the National Guard on our taxes? Continue to draw your pictures of mine, they say, a terrible fate. I see you find this a special pleasure!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Stas157

Well, why the hell is the National Guard on our taxes?

Not to us, but to you.

Quote: Stas157

Continue to draw your pictures of mine, they say, a terrible fate.

Why draw there? Remove the power unit today and tomorrow, on the edge of the day after tomorrow, your personal skin will be cut into rags by those who are dissatisfied with the police and the National Guard today. AUE to help you. Before you and your family are deprived of life, you will be systematically and consistently deprived of your savings, property, health and innocence. The alternative to this scenario is that you, in order not to be among the "endured", will be among those who will smash neighbors just because they live better than you. Today, there is a certain coven of unicellular organisms with a primitive thinking about justice, which, due to their meagerness, managed to spoil the HOLIDAY of those who really risked, fought, lost colleagues and ensured peace and public order, as well as those who today, by virtue of their official duties will have to go out to counter the criminal element. Get out. Rats are always against rat-catchers.

[Stas157]

Quote: Nyrobsky

there is some coven unicellular with primitive thinking

Quote: Nyrobsky

Get out. Rats

Nyrobsky why so flustered? You’re not talking in such a way with people in your department! Or a second nature habit?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Stas157

Nyrobsky why so flustered? You’re not talking in such a way with people in your department!

He was not involved in the "separation". Such lovers just infuriate to spoil any other people's holiday. All right, we would have tried to mess up somewhere in a separate topic concerning the fulfillment or non-fulfillment of official tasks, in individual episodes, but why so indiscriminately pour slop on all servicemen who honestly performed and are doing their duty?

Quote: Stas157

Or a second nature habit?

Everything is normal with my habits, at least I’m not inclined how you to spoil to a place and not to a place.

[Stas157]

Quote: Nyrobsky

fuck up

Quote: Nyrobsky

spoil

Quote: Nyrobsky

to spoil

Favorite words in the lexicon? And I did not ask anyone for a "holiday", and I did not run to the light. All I did was express my opinion on a public and public site, quite within the rules.

Regarding disrespect for such a dubious and anti-popular structure as the National Guard, which is the prop of the throne, respect must be earned! You can see the idea of ​​the people's "love" for the National Guard by the rating of my first commentary here. At the moment, more than half of people, to put it mildly, do not like Rosgvardia. And this is on your "holiday"!

[Nyrobsky]

Sir, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that in normal society it is not customary to go to a funeral with an accordion, but to a wedding with a coffin. For such pranks, they usually beat, and in my opinion they deserve it. Representatives of all branches of the armed forces are represented at VO, but no one ever allows himself to FIT and spoil the mood of those who have a holiday on the day of the celebration of the day of any kind of troops. Well, there were "especially disadvantaged" - you and a pessimist.

[Stas157]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Representatives of all military branches are represented at VObut no one ever allows himself to celebrate the day of any kind of troops

No need to put on an equal footing the Army and the National Guard. The army in Russia has always been loved, the gendarmes are not.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Stas157

No need to put on an equal footing the Army and the National Guard. The army in Russia has always been loved, the gendarmes are not.

Quote: Nyrobsky

Sir, once again I draw your attention to the fact that in a normal society it is not customary to go to a funeral with an accordion, but to a wedding with a coffin. For such pranks, as a rule they beat, and in my opinion deservedly.

You don’t understand anything. Hard case.

[single]

Do not say it anywhere in Stepanakert or Sumgati. There, people have a good memory ... And if it weren’t for the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, the sea would have shed blood ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

those who cherish you with batons

Man, here I am personally (and many others that I personally know), nobody with batons ... not that. That is, we, in your opinion, are not people, or what? Serious sunset

[Stas157]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Buddy here personally me (and many more that I personally know) nobody with batons...

Why do they need batons for beauty? Personally on you Golovan all statistics are not built.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

Why do they need batons?

IMHO for the protection of such bright and creative ones from them.

There was such a cartoon - "In the country of unlearned lessons." So, my friend - if your dreams come true, you will get about the same on a national scale. At the same time, a carnivorous cow will appear behind a ladybug

It is not necessary, and there are people who are ready to prevent this. That's all.

Quote: Stas157

Golovan personally, all statistics are not built on you

You are inattentive. I wrote not only about myself, I have a wide circle of friends.

Well, the fact that you consider only yourself and others like you worthy of "building statistics" once again confirms your belonging to the creative, bright and clear-eyed. Not surprised.

[Stas157]

In 93, Borka collected only 7 combined crews for firing tanks at the White House. I am sure that the National Guard will repeat this like that without a second thought!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

I am sure that the National Guard will repeat this like a shot at the people without hesitation.

My friend, if you climb out of the cozy Internet to the square, then, with a high probability, you will be slammed with a club. But, since you will never get out of here, this only threatens you theoretically.

Which once again proves that one of its many tasks - to protect you from you - Rosguard successfully performs. With what I you (and Rosguard) and congratulations

[Stas157]

Quote: Golovan Jack

My friend, if you climb out of the cozy Internet to the square, then, with a high probability, you will be slammed with a club.

You can’t argue with that!

recent events show that the National Guard has the right to attack completely civilians without any obvious reason, to use inadequately force and there will be no negative consequences for the Niguards even in theory (rather, on the contrary, they will give encouragement). Moreover, if citizens immediately do not provide the opportunity for the National Guard to do anything with them, including if these citizens back away from attackers or try to run away, this will be regarded as “resistance”, which will almost automatically entail 2 consequences: “resisting” will be severely beaten and criminal proceedings may be instituted against himif during the beating or detention of such a citizen, one of the National Guard guards feels a certain pain somewhere in his large trained body ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

You can’t argue with that!

Well, fine

[hohkn]

Quote: Stas157

recent events show that the National Guard has the right to attack completely civilians without any obvious reason,

This is what dump you found? Do the liberals? Those still don’t write that.

[Revival]

This is similar to the verdict of Ustinov with which the public observer came out because of a video that the judge did not want to see point-blank, but the Moscow city court mastered watching

[bubalik]

In 93, Borka collected only 7 national crews to shoot at the White House from tanks. Repeat this, the National Guard will shoot at people without hesitation!

In total, the Ministry of Defense attacked more than 3000 soldiers and officers, 10 tanks, 80 armored personnel carriers, 20 infantry fighting vehicles, 15 infantry fighting vehicles, and more than 60 BMDs to storm the House of Soviets.
The most active in the operation were officers of the 106th airborne division: regiment commander, Lieutenant Colonel Ignatov, regiment chief of staff Lt. Col. Istrenko, battalion commanders Major Khomenko and Captain Susukin.
Officers of the Taman Division: deputy division commander Lt. Col. Mezhov, regiment commanders Lt. Col. Kadatsky and Arkhipov.
The officers of the Kantemirov’s division who made up the volunteer officer crews shooting from the tanks: Major Petrakov and Major Brulevich, battalion commander Major Rudoi, reconnaissance battalion commander Lt. Col. Yermolin, tank battalion commander Major Serebryakov, deputy commander of the infantry battalion commander captain.
Directly led by the Minister of Defense Grachev.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: bubalik

and lieutenant colonel Ignatov, chief of staff of the regiment, lieutenant colonel Istrenko, battalion commanders Major Khomenko and captain Susukin.
Officers of the Taman Division: deputy division commander Lt. Col. Mezhov, regiment commanders Lt. Col. Kadatsky and Arkhipov.

Quote: bubalik

the Kantemirov’s division’s officers who made up the volunteer officer crews firing from the tanks: Major Petrakov and Major Brulevich, battalion commander Major Rudoi, reconnaissance battalion commander Lt. Col. Yermolin, tank battalion commander Major Serebryakov, deputy commander of the motorized rifle battalion captain Maslen.
Directly led by the Minister of Defense Grachev.

I deliberately stored up this in order to know these ... so that they don’t have a bottom or tire ...
And I will tell my children about the real "heroes" of the country.

[Okolotochny]

By the way, Sergey, what about the times of the State Emergency Committee? What forces were introduced to Moscow? MO. Before that, the Minister of the Interior B. Pugo issued an order stating that all units of the troops and bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs are in places of constant deployment. The order was violated only by two - two GSMs.

[Ros 56]

Stas that already got himself or so, started a topic for conversation.
Well, I’m not averse to leaving our liberalists with a club. And these pictures that reflect, especially the lowest, there is already a frame ready with a camera. Is it really not clear where the wind is blowing?

[Stas157]

Quote: Ros 56

Well, I’m not averse to leaving our liberalists with a club.

But the left, the communists and simply dissatisfied with the politics of citizens? I think the baton of the National Guard does not distinguish citizens by party affiliation.

Quote: Ros 56

And these pictures that reflect, especially the lowest, there is already a frame ready with a camera. Is it really not clear where the wind is blowing?

Again, everything is rigged, photo montage, the National Guard are kind and fluffy ??

[Ros 56]

And just citizens dissatisfied with politics get permission and please, show your dissatisfaction. But the law cannot be broken. This is the first.
It is clear even to a child that a photographer who is ready to shoot everything just doesn’t appear out of nowhere. He sits in ambush and waits. And what is waiting is also clear. The unauthorized trick of the liberals paid by the West leads them to explain to them with the help of a drug dubinal that breaking the law is not good. That's the whole story of your pictures for foolish people. By the way, you can observe the same picture in any Western country, but for some reason your tongue is hiding in the anus; something to object to this. And for some reason, you immediately shut up against the Western police and its actions against demonstrators.

[pin_code]

it’s so simple that they haven’t matured before the World Revolution, and we have pumped it. here people are embarrassed .. while embarrassed.

[Private89]

But the law cannot be broken.

And if the laws are not written by the people, and not in the interests of the people, but protect the interests, palaces, yachts and capital of the oligarch class. What prevents them from writing laws by which they cannot be displaced, from the word at all, in fact, they are successfully implementing it. The Russian Guard, the Army, and indeed all institutions, will serve the people only when the entire power will be with the people, and not with a handful of parasitic parasites.

[Matroskin]

I remembered the caricature

[AU Ivanov.]

But the left and the Communists need to carefully choose fellow travelers. At communist rallies, the use of force was not noticed. Well, if you go in the same column with the liberda - get it. Deservedly get it.

[Private89]

Well, if you go in the same column with the liberda - get it. Deservedly get it.

The trouble is that liberals are sitting in the Kremlin and occupying half a doom, there are simply those who still believe that Putin and Yeltsin are not doing one thing. What can I say pink glasses + cheers patriotism does not give a critical look at things.

[Okolotochny]

Stasik, for the events in Novocherkassk (executions of hungry workers) can we talk and in whose times it was?

[DMB_95]

Again, everything is rigged, photo montage, the National Guard are kind and fluffy ??

You guessed it, you got it all, damn it. It is the "kind and fluffy" they are with normal people. There are also guys serving from our cities and villages, they should be congratulated today, not a dog. Well, and who offends the boys today are those who are especially enlightened by the "light of freedom and democracy" somewhere on Bolotnaya and therefore are forever offended at everyone except themselves.

[g1v2]

He understands everything. He just wants people to spoil the holiday - that’s all. that it’s possible to use poop somehow.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: g1v2

He just wants people to spoil the holiday - that’s all. that it’s possible to use poop somehow.

And what kind of holiday is this? What kind of "guard" is this and for what merits is it a guard? And most importantly, whose "guard" is this king, cardinal?
In fact, this is a hodgepodge of Vovans and cops, all cops celebrate their holiday, and Vovans have their own.
Here is a simple question: Mayon of the licensing system, whose will it be? Cop or National Guard? And what and when is his holiday?
I believe that since they destroyed the Soviet Union, let them organize their new holidays of the new government and celebrate them with pleasure.
What does the Day of Soviet Police on November 10 have to do with modern Putin’s police?
Or what does BB have to do with the National Guard? All this is invented, invented and sucked from a finger or from something else.
And to the current "guards" of the king I want to wish that the sound of a falling plastic cup does not injure their unfortunate, unstable psyche. And a convincing and insistent request, do not punch women in the stomach !!!
Normal boys of sanity and health, and the rest is this

[Okolotochny]

Wow, "Afghan storyteller". Well, put in a story about how you in Afghanistan received sneakers in a parcel from the Union? By the way, the bread-cutter was interested in an Afghan comrade. Bread cutter-dreamer, the parcels WERE NOT SENT to Afghan from the Union. So your number 6 is for BB.

[Revival]

The video is indicative!

[Revival]

So they grabbed him like a ready-made camera and saw how they shot him.

[pin_code]

he is not your friend, not a friend. have you still not understood this?

[Varyag_0711]

These are also internal troops.
The dinghy, pouring mud on ordinary boys risking their lives, for your own safety, do not want to be in their shoes for at least a month?
Why are you all so excited like roosters not cut? An ordinary citizen has nothing to fear from people in the form of explosives (now Rosguard), they are called upon to protect you, which they do with honor and dignity.
And only those insignificants like you can dirty the memory of the dead boys. He was frightened with batons, do not disturb public order, you won’t get a club on his ribs.
P.S. I would have looked at you the hero of the tattered, if you had all said this to the nettle ... In the internet we are all heroes.

[Stas157]

Quote: Varyag_0711

These are also internal troops

You do not confuse the internal troops and the Russian Guard. This is not the same thing. Otherwise, they would not have remade. And there was no National Guard in Chechnya. Do not hide behind those guys!

Quote: Varyag_0711

I would look at you Hiroi tornif you would say all this to the nettle ...

That's why this is not our holiday! Would you like to have a look? Go to the people at the rally with a club - there they will thank you.

Quote: Varyag_0711

unrefined cocks

Quote: Varyag_0711

jerks

Quote: Varyag_0711

Batons he was scared

Go roll with grief! Do not look on the Internet, do not be upset. People on whose taxes you exist do not like you.

[Okolotochny]

Hurry, open the relevant laws and regulations on the performance of the service - the tasks are the same. If the law is violated, knock on the fifth point of the Republic of Poland to various sectarians, and if situations arise, save those places of the same sectarians - you, god, etc.

[76rtbr]

I also say that the Russian Guard did not participate anywhere except dispersal of the population, what n ... honor

[forester1971]

As for the fact that the Russian Guard did not participate in the hostilities, this is a lie. And the population that was dispersed is already as much as 0,001% of the Russian population?

[76rtbr]

Yes, that you drag OMON and SOBR to this topic, you still remember kulikovo field !!! talk about the gang created to protect the interests of the elite against the people and everything, although the riot police are the same ghouls, flew to Vladivostok, did not use their own, to disperse on the occasion of raising customs, etc. on Japanese cars as if they themselves drive vases in other regions also !! take off your pinkish glasses and go down to the ground !!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Stas157

You do not confuse the internal troops and the Russian Guard. This is not the same thing. Otherwise, they would not have remade.

The basis of the WG is precisely the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation. It is simply that the Dark One decided to move power units that have the right to conduct hostilities within the borders of the Russian Federation beyond the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

Quote: Stas157

And there was no National Guard in Chechnya. Do not hide behind those guys!

Gorgeous. And where did those VV soldiers who served in Chechnya in the "pre-Guard" times and "inherited" the RG go? Are you saying that a simple patch change automatically sends all previous service history to the trash can?

[cost]

Varyag_0711 (Alexey):
These are also internal troops.

This photo has nothing to do with VV. This is Special Forces.
This is a fairly well-known photo in which the soldiers of the so-called "Raging Company" Gyurza "Major Alexey Efentiev with the call sign" Gyurza "of the 166th Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade of the CH.
and here is Gyurza

Such fraud on VO is unacceptable

[Varyag71]

Gyurza was my neighbor on the porch

[cost]

legendary spetsnaz personality

[cost]

That's about whom you need to write articles on VO. About him and his "mad"
That there were no such "blunders" in the future
Varyag71, God himself told you to do this, since you are from a garrison, and you are probably well acquainted. Write. Here, many will be grateful to you.
Best regards
Dmitriy

[Varyag71]

Unfortunately, I was not close to Gyurza. Too late to learn about him.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Rich

rich (dmitry)

Thank you Kamrad !!!

Quote: Rich

This photo has nothing to do with VV. This is Special Forces.
This is a fairly well-known photo in which the soldiers of the so-called "Raging Company" Gyurza "Major Alexey Efentiev with the call sign" Gyurza "of the 166th Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade of the CH.

Here it is the GUARD !!! Well done guys!

Quote: Rich

Such fraud on VO is unacceptable

Dmitry Respect to you !!! + 100500

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Varyag_0711

And the memory of the dead boys can be dirty

And who was going to scold the memory of the Heroic Boys? And they just Glory and Memory! For recruits here, too, no one bazaars.
But for those who do not protect public order, and power from the people, this applies to them.

Quote: Varyag_0711

He was frightened with batons, do not disturb public order, you won’t get a club on his ribs.

But the question for you is, the royal gendarmes were they good or bad, or those little ducky who were working people's heads, like a watermelon chopped, which ones should I write to?

[hohkn]

Quote: Stroporez

But for those who do not protect public order, and power from the people, this applies to them.

It seems that you just do not understand. Power is guarded from the people by the Federal Security Service, and not by the Russian Guard. Rosguard just guards the rule of law.

[AU Ivanov.]

The royal gendarmes were not very. They did not fulfill their task and did not drive all this revolutionary riffraff under the bunks. They cannot be called good in any way.
Counter question: Pliev soldiers who shot at people in Novocherkassk, are they positive or negative characters?

[Po-tzan]

Quote: Varyag_0711

I would have looked at you Hiroi tattered, if you had all this expressed in the eyes of the nettle ...

If you say this in person to one very touchy hobbyist (and part-time academician), you will have to apologize (as many Russians have already done)

[Revival]

Simple and well-deserved and no one pours mud. And your photo has nothing to do with the Russian Guard.
And those who beat women with their fists in the stomach, who do you think?
And the one who was caught in a lie to the court, who is this? And when will they be punished according to the Law?

[Revival]

Those real heroes whose photos you posted here do not whine in the video clips of the plaintive, unlike those who pour in from the glass and kick the women in the stomach.
Low...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Varyag_0711

Varyag_0711 (Alexey)

And then you are in which of the photos?

[Servisinzhener]

And let's remember what happens when these "people with bright faces" win, who are harassed in your photographs. Rather, those who stand behind these protesters win. What came out of these protests in Libya, Syria, Ukraine.

[Trotil42]

And what happens when corrupt power hides behind the back of the Russian Guard? Remember the videos on the Winter Cherry ... The authorities allowed to build Cherry and exploit ... on bribes and kickbacks .. Nobody came out and didn’t apologize .. Putin came, but for some reason did not want to meet the parents of the burned children ... parents alive burnt children are also paid outcasts?

[Servisinzhener]

Everything was there as you say. BUT! And where is the guarantee that an honest, and not even more corrupt, authority will come to the place of corrupt power?

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Servisinzhener

Everything was there as you say. BUT! And where is the guarantee that an honest, and not even more corrupt, authority will come to the place of corrupt power?

Well, if with a guarantee, then only at the cemetery. This is me to you I give a 100% guarantee, we will all be there. But in life, the absence of guarantees is not an excuse for not doing or trying to change for the better. Otherwise, degradation is also a cemetery.

[Revival]

Well, all stock up with centuries of patience, and then suddenly what.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Servisinzhener

And let's remember what happens when these "people with bright faces" win, who are harassed in your photographs. Rather, those who stand behind these protesters win. What came out of these protests in Libya, Syria, Ukraine.

Well, let's really remember what happens when people with bright faces win. But why, certainly, Libya or Syria with Ukraine? Or is our own story no longer valid?
Well, sort of, nothing happened.

[Harry.km]

Quote: Leshy1975

Well, sort of, nothing happened.

It is a pity that all this is glorious, but already a story ... And all the verbs in this story are in the past tense. But in the present reality, there are only verbs of the time of the future ... of the distant future ... of an indefinite form ... Yes, and of an undefined future ...

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Harry.km

Quote: Leshy1975

Well, sort of, nothing happened.

It is a pity that all this is glorious, but already a story ... And all the verbs in this story are in the past tense. But in the present reality, there are only verbs of the time of the future ... of the distant future ... of an indefinite form ... Yes, and of an undefined future ...

Well, who would argue that the past. Everything once passes. Putinism will certainly pass and I hope that a new state will be built on its ruins, without the Chubais, Matvienoks, Rotenbergs and other today's "best people" of Putin's RF. Since our country was able to do this once, it means that it is possible in the future as well. Well, and the fact that it is possible (and even necessary) to build a much more just state than the Yeltsin-Putin Russian Federation, I am simply sure of that.

[Servisinzhener]

I refuse to put an equal sign between the Bolshevik Party and the modern non-systemic opposition. Because they took power completely. well-worn provisional government. Which is correct to compare with the modern non-systemic opposition. Except that the current "oppositionists" have not gotten to governing the state. And I hope they won't. Unfortunately, the modern analogue of the CPSU (b) is not visible.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Servisinzhener

I refuse to put an equal sign between the Bolshevik Party and the modern non-systemic opposition. Because they took power completely. well-worn provisional government. Which is correct to compare with the modern non-systemic opposition. Except that the current "oppositionists" have not gotten to governing the state. And I hope they won't. Unfortunately, the modern analogue of the CPSU (b) is not visible.

Of course, you can not put an equal sign, no matter where. Because Putin's RF and an equal sign are very poorly combined.
And be sure, they don’t bet, but if they consider it necessary, then they bathe them around without understanding who is not a systemic opposition, but who is specifically a systemic one.
Well, who can become a modern analogue of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, even if not by ideology, but by decisiveness and take it, because we on earth are all temporary

power completely. managed the interim government

, this story will still show.

[Servisinzhener]

By the way, the Bolsheviks were not embarrassed in using force in relation to their own people, transferring private property into public property.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Servisinzhener

By the way, the Bolsheviks were not embarrassed in using force in relation to their own people, transferring private property into public property.

Naturally. A change in social formation, with the former consciousness. And civil war, a terrible thing. When even a son is not responsible for his father.
And therefore, the primary concern of any government is to create conditions for the development of the country, for the prosperity of its citizens. And do not create conditions for the stratification of society and the growth of discontent.
And never the security forces, the same part of society, could prevent a change of power when the conditions for this were finally formed. As history shows, the Idea turns out to be stronger than weapons.

[Stas157]

Quote: Servisinzhener

I refuse to equate the Bolshevik party and the modern non-systemic opposition.

Yes you are against any oppositionif she is against Putin!

[Servisinzhener]

I am against the change of power on the basis of the principle outlined in the Ukrainian proverb. Translated into Russian sounding: Let it be worse, but only in a different way.

[Revival]

And you get her mirror image "let it be worse just as it is

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Leshy1975

Leshy1975

Hi Goblin!
Offset vidos, rake a plus sign, all I can. And from the Soul +100500.
But the community of demobilization of all branches of the armed forces in the spring or in the fall, this is SONG !!!

[AU Ivanov.]

Batons in order to reach out to the mind. Many people do not understand the words - only by hand. I look at all these crackdowns of the protesters: somehow, all gently, tenderly, fuss, pock with them. Must be tougher.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

Batons in order to reach out to the mind. Many people do not understand the words - only by hand. I look at all these crackdowns of the protesters: somehow, all gently, tenderly, fuss, pock with them. Must be tougher.

How tougher it is? Batons and paddy wagons are few? Have some broken limbs and concussions not enough for you? Maybe water with machine guns right away? Do not rush, do not run "in front of the locomotive", it can certainly come to this. But the question is, if (when) the current government will change or, God forbid, real blood will flow. Are you personally ready to shed your blood, I don’t ask for someone else’s, to the glory of Putin? And you will definitely not ask later, but what for me?

[AU Ivanov.]

There will be not enough batons and avtozakov. The instigators, and most importantly, the organizers, need real terms. And this is not 15 days. How much do we rely on for malicious hooliganism? Up to 7 years? Here on the upper bar and close the provocateurs. Too our power is tender.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

There will be not enough batons and avtozakov. The instigators, and most importantly, the organizers, need real terms. And this is not 15 days. How much do we rely on for malicious hooliganism? Up to 7 years? Here on the upper bar and close the provocateurs. Too our power is tender.

Andrei, there have been tougher actions in history. What are the real terms there ?! There wasn’t much more reality, up to firing at protesters and chopping drafts. Did not help. Why go in circles?
And a state with a progressive stratification of society and a progressive accumulation of discontent is doomed. And already depending on whether the power is held or not and they will declare someone a hero, and someone a criminal. If not, those who are imprisoned now will quickly switch places in the cells with those who identified them there.
An idea is stronger than a weapon. Give society an idea (backed up by a personal example of leaders) that it will believe in and which it will follow, and the issue with those who are not satisfied will be decided by itself.
But for now, exactly the opposite, and no tightening can replace the idea and cancel the growth of discontent in society. It’s easy to lead to even greater bitterness.
When two people dissatisfied with each other try to talk, but one does not hear the other, and instead of a compromise, only a degree of tension is inflated, then be sure that a fight is inevitable. Well, and who will be stronger, this is based on the results. And not necessarily they will be the one who looked more powerful or threatened more.

[AU Ivanov.]

Take a closer look at the figures who are leading these protest actions. I don't think they wish our country prosperity. At least - they want to push their snout to the trough, as a maximum they play into the hands of our overseas "friends". These are not the people to follow. For some reason, there are no provocations on camera at the actions of the communists, nor, accordingly, forceful actions. Maybe you should pay attention to the leaders, after all, they can lead to the slaughter for their own interests.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

Take a closer look at the figures who are leading these protest actions. I don't think they wish our country prosperity. At least - they want to push their snout to the trough, as a maximum they play into the hands of our overseas "friends". These are not the people to follow. For some reason, there are no provocations on camera at the actions of the communists, nor, accordingly, forceful actions. Maybe you should pay attention to the leaders, after all, they can lead to the slaughter for their own interests.

Yes, the Communists also get it. Well, maybe, of course, less. Well, they are not the most violent. Well, replace Navalny, another violent (I certainly would like to have left-wing ideas) Will you begin to love them after that? Let it all be the same. The authorities will also blame, because it is a threat to her, for all mortal sins, you will also support these accusations.
And neither you nor the government will remember, but what is the reason why these protests arise and grow? Because, having realized and named the root cause, the authorities will have to either ascertain their injustice or, having acknowledged, begin to change the situation for the better.
But then, today's power will have to limit itself. Restrict rights, income. I doubt that the government will go for it.
So far, everything will drag on: bad Navalny, bad Grudinin, bad Rashkin, bad Ivashev (whom in 2011 the CEC, on a far-fetched pretext, did not register for the presidency). And only Putin will continue to be declared the only good. And you, as before, will only support Putin.

PS This is a political dead end. The way out, unfortunately, is now possible only through street protests. No matter how we all were against shocks, we were only for everything good and positive.
Approximately, as with coronavirus, we are all against it and do not want to get sick. But the virus is subject to its laws and our good wishes have little effect on it.

[AU Ivanov.]

Remember on what slogans Yeltsin came to power. That's right - down with privileges, those in power, the fight against corruption, power - to the people and other, undoubtedly nice, goodies. What did you get in real life? Are you sure it will be different now? Rake walking is a national sport.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

Remember on what slogans Yeltsin came to power. That's right - down with privileges, those in power, the fight against corruption, power - to the people and other, undoubtedly nice, goodies. What did you get in real life? Are you sure it will be different now? Rake walking is a national sport.

1) No need to oppose EBN and GDP. For this, Putin’s receiver was chosen by Yeltsin to continue his course and ensure the security of the Yeltsin clan. And all other tasks are already secondary.
2) Will it be better right away? I am not sure about that. But I’m sure that Putin will lead the country to the same place where he led all the previous years. And in real life, it was precisely this course that led to the stratification of society and the growth of protest moods.
And therefore, I would have changed without waiting for the worst.
3) Well, because Putin will continue this course, originating from the EBN, and that in the end it will end - with massive street protests, I am also sure.

PS

Rake walking is a national sport.

And mind you, and for a long time. First, the EBN made a constitutional revolution (when the new Constitution was adopted with violations), but now, following the EBN, the GDP repeated this illegal action again.

[AU Ivanov.]

Whom did Yeltsin choose there. In our country, they either leave such positions on a gun carriage, or at an urgent request. So Bora was made an offer, which he could not refuse. In exchange for the safety of the "family" Quiet coup in its pure form performed by the special services. Where is Putin leading the country? And you compare what was 20 years ago and now. At least such a trifle as the cleanliness of the streets, the work of city transport, street crime. Compare the quality of life or your memory is short? Day and night.

[Revival]

What we got in real life and continue to use without ceasing

[cat Rusich]

Leshy1975, if you mean the events of 1917, then they happened according to a different scenario. Short description (for schoolchildren reading this comment) - 1) First, the February Revolution, events February 22 (March 8) 1917 - March 2 (March 15) 1917, crowned by a STATE COURT - the legitimate Sovereign Nicholas 2 overthrew his entourage, Nikolai 2 signed a renunciation throne at the station of the Bottom (Foros recalls). The Provisional Government and the State Duma, RIA - who supported the abdication, who did not say anything, come to power. The uprising began precisely with the garrison of the capital - Petrograd (the legal pre-revolutionary name of the capital). 2) Then the October Revolution takes place, the events of October 25 (November 7) 1917 - comrade. V.I. Lenin and the RSDLP (b) had already overthrown the Provisional Government - the army (officers) was silent again, and ordinary soldiers enthusiastically supported, hoping for a promise of PEACE. The gendarme corps and the Cossacks could not do anything against the rebel soldiers with weapons.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: cat Rusich

Leshy1975, if you mean the events of 1917, then they happened according to a different scenario. Short description (for schoolchildren reading this comment) - 1) First, the February Revolution, events February 22 (March 8) 1917 - March 2 (March 15) 1917, crowned by a STATE COURT - the legitimate Sovereign Nicholas 2 overthrew his entourage, Nikolai 2 signed a renunciation throne at the station of the Bottom (Foros recalls). The Provisional Government and the State Duma, RIA - who supported the abdication, who did not say anything, come to power. The uprising began precisely with the garrison of the capital - Petrograd (the legal pre-revolutionary name of the capital). 2) Then the October Revolution takes place, the events of October 25 (November 7) 1917 - comrade. V.I. Lenin and the RSDLP (b) had already overthrown the Provisional Government - the army (officers) was silent again, and ordinary soldiers enthusiastically supported, hoping for a promise of PEACE. The gendarme corps and the Cossacks could not do anything against the rebel soldiers with weapons.

Of course I agree . You are absolutely right. The Bolsheviks have nothing to do with directly overthrowing the tsar. Their merit is that they later managed to set a completely different vector for the development of the country. Well, and yes, they took advantage of the weakness of the interim government, which, fearing the movement of Kornilov to Petrograd, itself armed the workers and many Bolsheviks freed from prisons.

[Okolotochny]

Yes, as in Novocherkassk, during the Soviet era.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Okolotochny

Yes, as in Novocherkassk, during the Soviet era.

It was the same. Who will deny it? As well as the fact that there is no longer the USSR itself. Which disappeared, also due to accumulated contradictions. And yes, machine guns also did not help save the country.
And what follows from this? What does not need to take into account mistakes and strives for the best? Or is Putin the pinnacle in the development of governing the country and the development of the state itself?

I’m talking about this. An idea is stronger than a weapon. And since dissatisfaction with power begins to become the idea of ​​the majority, then such power should be replaced. That would not be taken to extremes. And the faster, the better, the greater the chance that everything will go peacefully and without losing control of the country. But this path is unlikely about Putin and others like him. These will cling to power to someone’s end: either their own or their country.

[CSKA]

Quote: Stas157

Why do they need batons for beauty? Personally, Golovan’s statistics are not built on you.

The logic of you pseudo-Communists is simply not amenable to normal human thinking.
Probably because you have no thinking. All your brains are enough only to criticize everything and everyone. So that the authorities would not do everything badly.
By your logic, the liberals in power are about to sell Russia to the West, while they beat with batons the liberasts who marry new and other creatures, and live on Western grants, which you also hate fiercely. And at the same time, you are for the same liberalists whom you hate so much, but fiercely defend against the Russian Guard, which you hate so much.
This is just a masterpiece of your conclusions.
The only question is who is really a traitor to the homeland and ready to sell it at any time? Probably those guys with clubs who fought in the Caucasus, and probably like you and the liberals whom you hate so much, but they are fiercely protecting you from the Russian Guard.

[76rtbr]

What kind of "guards" fought in Chechnya, in your head evoking feats and what does the liberals have to do with it, are people spreading rot with clubs in revenge on the glass, pretending to be broken, or do these guardsmen give their parents an increased pension? just live as anyone can, when they will massage you, well, at least do not cry!

[CSKA]

Quote: 76rtbr

What "guards" fought in Chechnya, in your head evoking exploits

Turn on your clown’s head: BB, OMON and SOBR - this is Rosguard. They did not fight in Chechnya?

Quote: 76rtbr

where does the liberals

Despite the fact that they are organizing unauthorized rallies.

Quote: 76rtbr

here people spread rot with clubs

And they’re doing it right, but not very much, but in all civilized countries they also take rubber bullets and tear gas.

Quote: 76rtbr

in retaliation for a glass pretending to be a fracture

Che crazy enough only a set of words to write is not articulate?

Quote: 76rtbr

or parents of these hvardiets receive an increased pension

I think not, but they are doing their duty, you do not know such a word.

Quote: 76rtbr

also live as anyone can when they will ..... massage you, well, at least do not cry!

So we don’t cry, you whine only and whine.

[76rtbr]

the clown is you, the cardinal’s guard was found

[pin_code]

the people and Golovan Jack are divided by an insurmountable chasm. conclusion ... you are not the people.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: pin_code

the people and Golovan Jack are divided by an insurmountable chasm. conclusion ... you are not people

Kysh

[cost]

pin_code (Andrey 1974): the people and Golovan Jack are divided by an insurmountable chasm. conclusion ... you are not people

You are quick to conclusions, however. And not modest
If you and Golovan Jack are separated by an insurmountable chasm, then this is only your problem with him, and the people have nothing to do with it. And you do not need to get him involved in your debate. Especially speaking on his behalf. The people did not authorize you to do so.

[Vadim237]

You don’t speak for the whole nation - since you are a tiny part of it, just an info husk.

[Vitauts]

I look at Russian people and do not understand why you behave like slaves with Stockholm syndrome

[Vadim237]

Serfdom in Russia was abolished in 1861 - and slavery disappeared much earlier, now every creator of his own happiness and no one in slaves keeps you can go all 360 degrees.

[Okolotochny]

Are you apparently from the Baltic states? Counter-question, why do you behave like footmen before the founders of the European Union and the United States? Not tired of lacquering? Do you guys even stayed or all the workers on the installation of toilets in Europe dumped?

[Constructor68]

Stas157

you have to be completely stupid to celebrate the feast of those who cherish you with batons.

Well, if you're a marginal, then you deserve to be cheated

[Snail N9]

Congratulations to the guards, your day ...

[Egg]

How to upload video to koment?

[cost]

How to upload video to koment?

1. Right-click on the selected video.
2. copy its URL.
3. Click on the "insert media content from other services" icon on your comment panel

4. a window opens

5. Paste the copied URL there
6. Press the "Enter" button. All.

[Egg]

I know this video from the phone.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Telur

How to upload video to koment?

No, don’t load it !!!))))) But just fill it and forget it
The far right icon on the menu in front of the checkmarks, there and lei

[pin_code]

do you think marginalized 75-90% of the population? and if instead of a baton they take a piece of pipe or fittings?

[g1v2]

If 75 percent take batons or rebar, then you will get from people in the first place. The problem with the Internet is that everything is brewed among like-minded people. And therefore, everyone, including the audience of Echo of Moscow, consider themselves and their circle of friends as the majority. And then they are very surprised when it turns out that they are just marginalized. VO is no exception.

[Servisinzhener]

Rallies of this category of citizens are very indicative of the number of participants. Yes, tens of thousands gather in Moscow, but this amount does not reach even one percent of the population. In Krasnodar, no more than a hundred were collected - 0,01%. And from their words they have the vast majority.

[pin_code]

you are deeply mistaken. reinforcement is like silk, or do you think everything will be like in '93. this is not a call for rebellion ... it's like an alternative story ...

[Vadim237]

"You are deeply mistaken. The armature is like silk, or you think everything will be like in 93. This is not a call to rebellion ... this is like an alternative history ..." - In someone's sick head.

[AU Ivanov.]

Then, with a greater degree of probability, your car will be burned, smashed or requisitioned. The apartment or your store will be looted, and instead of a rubber baton, you will get hit on the head with this steel pipe.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Designer 68

Well, if you're a marginal, then you deserve to be cheated

Are you ready to write everyone dissatisfied with the mediocre government of the country to marginal? Then what are the names of those who support the government, slowly but surely destroying the Russian people?

[pin_code]

I agree to all 100! the government we have is EFFECTIVE, but is it really that we are being appointed to the post according to the dispatch? Nooo now, as in Khrushchev, every housewife can rule the state, but the housewife for the last 30 years has not been found.

[AU Ivanov.]

Of the two evils, it is better to choose the lesser.

[pin_code]

is the designer on the aviator afraid of joining the ranks or banned for not respecting the other Comrades?

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Designer 68

Stas157

you have to be completely stupid to celebrate the feast of those who cherish you with batons.

Well, if you're a marginal, then you deserve to be cheated

The sociological term “marginal” goes back to Latin marginalis, which translates as “located on the edge».
And you sir, absolutely right, you deserve it. Many deserve it. Some deserve it because they are already below the line or on the edge of poverty, and therefore fall under the meaning of the word marginal - located on the edge.
Others, hidden marginals, deserve that they demand justice and that means they are already walking along this very slippery edge. A lot of them, marginals, in the country of the Russian Federation divorced. And the main fault of them all is that they are not satisfied with the authorities and dare to demand improvements, not deteriorations in their lives personally and in the state as a whole.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Designer 68

Well, if you're a marginal, then you deserve to be cheated

And if I suddenly think that the marginal is you, can I beat you on the head in order to demargenize?

[g1v2]

The people of the Russian Guard are defending, as is the state. And figachit only various evil spirits to which you apparently belong. Well, you have to get up and shit on people early in the morning. Handsome, however!

[Vadim237]

And so that you and yours are not whipped - there is nothing to organize provocations and unauthorized rallies involving all kinds of frostbitten people as support.

[DMB_95]

Quote: Stas157

The people must be completely stupid to celebrate the feast of those who cherish you with batons.

Yes, not all "worthy", apparently, "otcherachili".

[Sling cutter]

Quote: DMB_95

Yes, not all "worthy", apparently, "otcherachili".

Well, yes, you are the only one left

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Pessimist22

And for me, the Russian Guard is not for the people, but to protect the property of the bourgeoisie and the oligarchs

Law enforcement forces - serve to maintain order in the state. Here, the quotation fell into the language, catch:

Human nature cannot be altered; people are initially inherent in living in small gangs and sometimes cutting each other. Only real, full-sized power can clamp a person so that he throws his real habits and begins to go to work in a tie, obey his mother-in-law, and do other necessary nonsense

The funny thing is that what is written is true, whatever creative, bright and clear-eyed people would write here.

[pin_code]

to your quote in the language ... and if the population begins to do the same? smile, and God forbid that this happens (and he sits high and sees far, I'm talking about God)

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: pin_code

..a if the population begins to do the same?

You obviously did not understand: it is precisely so that the "population" (and in fact, the brightest and most creative part of it) does not try to fool, ahem, and there are, in particular, the forces of law and order. Without them it would be much more uncomfortable, I know this, I saw it myself, and I would not like to see this again.

[pin_code]

Well, to each his own. sometimes it’s impossible for the population to hold a rally, local authorities write (and sometimes even poop). and for every citizen there is always a choice of how, where, when, and with whom he is more comfortable. and there are much fewer people like Jack, and given that in the country everyone is fed up with the orders of not at all smart people, then still ahead, wait a hare, a new assortment for meat has not been approved

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: pin_code

in the country, everyone is fed up with the orders of completely non-smart people

Cool. I'll decompose it into components, perhaps:

* in the country - at any country of the world.
* all - Not everyone. Only the brightest and bright-eyed. And creative.
* fed up with the orders of stupid people - bright and creative in general is common for everyone except himself to be considered stupid people.

Quote: pin_code

still to come, hare wait, another new assortment for meat is not approved

A dog that barks does not bite. My example doesn’t bark

[pin_code]

the brightest part and the creative one all the more do not understand what happens when the dark and clogged MASS starts its feast, or the jack is not far off, or you are far from reality.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Golovan Jack

and, in particular, there are law enforcement forces.

Yes, it is understandable to all without you. Only here is the catch - the people treat the forces of law and order as well as the government. If the power is fair (more or less), then the people treat with understanding, if the power has been snickering and stealing, then the attitude to the forces of law and order is projected accordingly.
You shouldn't "chew" the obvious things, Roman is about nothing.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Ingvar 72

If the power is fair then ..., and if the power is snickering, then ...

Well, and since the power is clearly to blame for all your troubles (well, it’s not your fault, beloved and only), you are not too good at the forces of law and order.

Quote: Ingvar 72

Yes, it is clear to everyone without you

Exactly

[ava09]

"The will of the ruling class, elevated to law" - this is the object of protection by the Russian Guard.

[maidan.izrailovich]

And for me, the Russian Guard is not for the people, but to protect the property of the bourgeoisie and the oligarchs, my personal opinion.

And it is subjective.
It all depends not on the structure in which the person serves, but on himself.
As a proof of this statement, I will cite an article published here in VO.

Officers and Generals of the Tsarist Army in the Service of the Soviet Republic

It is written very objectively.
https://topwar.ru/23528-oficery-i-generaly-carskoy-armii-na-sluzhbe-sovetskoy-respubliki.html

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: maidan.izrailovich

It all depends not on the structure in which the person serves, but on himself.

Unfortunately, this appears only after a change of power.

[g1v2]

And for me, you just could not resist even spoiling someone else's holiday. That says a lot about you. But I and others who served in VV, no matter how they are called now, forgive you. For you are small and stupid.

[Varyag_0711]

g1v2 (Vitaliy)
And for me, you just could not resist even spoiling someone else's holiday. That says a lot about you. But I and others who served in VV, no matter how they are called now, forgive you. For you are small and stupid.

Don’t tell Vitaly, he took a paskudnik and shit in the morning in the soul, ruined the holiday. Now I’m pumping a faceted glass out of frustration, I will take out my PR-73 and I’ll go and take someone off ...
Happy holiday brother!

[g1v2]

Likewise. Happy Holidays! But I'm not going to go to hell, because I'm used to "educating" only for the cause. But I'll probably have a glass, although I practically don't drink it. But for such a day - in store.

[Varyag_0711]

About fig, it's me ... joking. And then here are some "fighters with bloody ginger" were overexcited early in the morning.

[76rtbr]

Well, they reset their pension, if any, Tereshkova said clearly

[Galleon]

Quote: Varyag_0711

he took a bad guy and shit in the morning in the soul, ruined the holiday. Now I’m pumping a faceted glass out of frustration, I will take out my PR-73 and I’ll go and take someone off.

Your phrase characterizes you accordingly. You don't even need to comment. Is today your "holiday"? such a "sense of humor" ? Poor thing ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Varyag_0711

Now I’m pumping a faceted glass out of frustration, I will take out my PR-73 and I’ll go and take someone off ...

Tell me, colleague, I already have to take the MPL-50 with me, what if you are going to take me off? It’s even interesting whether I forgot how to throw it or not?
Well, in general, with the holiday, without batons and oncoming shovels!

[Stas157]

Quote: Varyag_0711

Now I’m pumping a faceted glass with the disorder, I will get my PR-73 and go to someone...

That's right, Alex, take your soul away! Slaves must be beaten, as in the service. Do not forget to wear gloves only so that your hands do not splatter with blood. And then do not forget to pray for the Tsar. You are in the same harness with him. If they throw off, then from the lackeys of those, it will not seem enough.

After all, there is no difference between those and these.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: g1v2

whatever they are called now

BB at least honestly called. And now, what kind of Russia is this guard? Comprador? Under the Union, VV defended the state system supported by the overwhelming majority of the population, and now? All power now rests only on the remnants of Putin’s authority, which are disappearing with great speed. Nobody believes in boyars for a long time. Accordingly, those guys (and I personally do not blame them) become the object of popular discontent. If you protect the thief, then the attitude towards you will be appropriate.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Pessimist22

And for me, the Russian Guard is not for the people, but for protecting the property of the bourgeoisie and the oligarchs, my personal opinion.
When the rich rob the poor, this is business, and when the poor rob the rich, this is violence, now it is.

Less poison buddy! Pass by. Congratulations to those who served and serve in the Internal Troops transformed into the National Guard.
The National Guard and all those serving in the internal troops do not need congratulations from you collaborators and singers along with the liberals.
PS- For you, the national guard of mattresses is probably dearer and closer, and congratulate them.

[CSKA]

Quote: Pessimist22

And for me, the Russian Guard is not for the people, but for protecting the property of the bourgeoisie and the oligarchs, my personal opinion.

Where and when did Rosgvardia protect the oligarch's property and from whom? Do you remind me that she defended the property of Khodorkovsky or Berezovsky? What bourgeoisie wake up, now is not the beginning of the 20th century. Or do you not know the meaning of the word "bourgeoisie"? Do you want to remember the North Caucasus? Did you yourself take part in the first or second Chechen war?

Quote: Pessimist22

When the rich rob the poor, this is business, and when the poor rob the rich, this is violence, now it is.

School level. Yes, yesterday I suppose Lisin came to your house and stole money from your wallet. And by the way, how do you classify people as rich, by what criteria?

[hohkn]

Quote: CSKA

Do you want to remember about the North Caucasus? You yourself then participated in the first or second Chechen?

Did he need this? At that time he was hanging in taverns.

[CSKA]

Quote: hohkn

Did he need this? At that time he was hanging in taverns.

So they are all patriots big only in words, that would criticize the authorities, they say for all good versus all bad. And how it comes down so head to the sand. And we have them all satraps of power, whether it be the Rosguard or just a supporter of power. No one can have an opposite opinion, if someone else has an opinion he is immediately a slave to power.

[Galleon]

Quote: CSKA

Where and when did the Russian Guard protect the property of the oligarch and from whom? Do not remind her she defended the property of Khodorkovsky or Berezovsky?

Are you picking up all such mankurts there? You don’t know anything and don’t want to know! And when recently the Rosgavdeis in the Arkhangelsk region pressed people who went against the landfill: peacefully went out, without slogans, without extremism, without weapons - did the memory pop out with a plastic cup? Or will you say that the landfills of Chaika’s son are not the property of the oligarch? This is property and a lot of money.

[CSKA]

Quote: Galleon

Do you pick up all such mankurts there?

Oh wow, what a clever word I picked up, I even google.))))) Only we are not slaves. People like us make a lot of money and do not live badly and we have no owners. And people like you do not pass off your ability to succeed in life as a state guilt and just whine, and whining is the lot of slaves.
And the fact that there for some reason a bunch arranged an unauthorized rally does not mean that she had the right to do so.

[Galleon]

Quote: CSKA

Oh wow, what a clever word I picked up, I even google.))))) Only we are not slaves. People like us make a lot of money and do not live badly and we have no owners.

Googled for a long time. Was it hard?)))
You are not slaves. You are in chains ... And the fact that you get paid a lot is right - you can't shut your conscience with small handouts. "You have no owners" - this also fits into your psychology of criminals. it is no secret that many are now going to the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs to become above the law. You even listen to some songs with urks))) And you are not leading your history from VV, VV were part of a country with the name of the USSR, and you are leading your history from the guardsmen, from the gendarmes, for goals and objectives are the same. Compare your oath and the military oath of the USSR. There is no difference - there is an abyss.

[hohkn]

Quote: Galleon

Compare your oath and military oath of the USSR

And I took my oath only in the USSR. None of us swore again, so don’t have to shift our pain onto someone else’s head.

[Nameless]

Who, in this case, was intensively protected by the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs?

[for]

The feats of law enforcement officers who fought in the fields are forever inscribed in the heroic annals World War 1812 years and on the fronts of World War II,

And then I think for what it has so many awards.

[Stas157]

And in the Second World War, how are the National Guard inscribed? Just like the cops?

[210ox]

NKVD troops, as I understand it.

[Rzzz]

During the war, the NKVD troops were noted for many glorious exploits, especially in Stalingrad. And this is without any malice, everything is absolutely serious. But the general image of the "office" overshadows them so much that no one wants to hear about the exploits.
Now - a similar situation. Real exploits are secret, and a thug beating a lying woman with a boot in the stomach is shown to everyone. And the main one who says "so it should be." This will not be accepted in any society. And no matter how glorious the RG, there will always be such an attitude towards it.
Marshal is still a clown with stolen cabbage and a duel. Well, also not a plus image.

[WHAT IS]

Not only in Stalingrad, they started back in the Brest Fortress.

“I am dying, but I am not giving up! Goodbye, Motherland. 20 / VII-41 ”- the legendary inscription found in the basement of the dilapidated barracks of the 132nd separate battalion of the KV NKVD.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: WHAT IS

Not only in Stalingrad, they started back in the Brest Fortress.

And with what fright do you relate the Feats of the NKVD Border Troops during the Second World War and Putin's Rosnatsguard?
Firstly, at that time it was, in fact, a separate branch of the armed forces, and secondly, they had their own aviation, marines and border guards, etc.
Actually, the border troops then passed into the jurisdiction of the KGB of the USSR and had nothing to do with the police.

[hohkn]

Quote: Stroporez

And with what fright do you relate the Feats of the NKVD Border Troops during the Second World War and Putin's Rosnatsguard?

He wrote everything correctly:

Quote: WHAT IS

the legendary inscription found in the basement of the dilapidated barracks of the 132nd separate battalion of the KV NKVD.

KV NKVD - these are the NKVD escort troops that never belonged to the border troops.

[Okolotochny]

Who are you explaining to?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: hohkn

KV NKVD - these are the NKVD escort troops that never belonged to the border troops.

Well, where did I write about the NKVD HF? What do you see badly? I sympathize with you.

[hohkn]

Quote: Stroporez

Well, where did I write about the NKVD HF?

And you carefully re-read your post, and read the post to which you answered. In the post to which you answered, it is just about the KV NKVD, and you "subtly" decided to transfer the conversation to another channel.

Quote: Stroporez

What do you see badly?

But do not be rude. Young yet.

[garrett]

KV NKVD - these are the NKVD escort troops that never belonged to the border troops.

have you been banned in google ??? the border troops were themselves part of the NKVD at that time, they were transferred to the MGB (KGB) much later

[hohkn]

Quote: Garrett

have you been banned in google ??? the border troops were themselves part of the NKVD at that time, they were transferred to the MGB (KGB) much later

Do not attribute your ignorance to others. The border troops, even during the period of joining the NKVD, were never called escort troops.

[garrett]

KV NKVD - these are the NKVD escort troops that never belonged to the border troops.

The border troops, even during the period of joining the NKVD, were never called escort troops.

Do you know what mutually exclusive paragraphs are? where did I write about the escort troops? I understood what you meant, express your thoughts more correctly and there will be no questions for you

[hohkn]

Quote: Garrett

Do you know what mutually exclusive paragraphs are?

You carefully read what you answer. First you blurt out, then you are looking for an excuse.

[garrett]

And with what fright do you relate the Feats of the NKVD Border Troops during the Second World War and Putin's Rosnatsguard?

in stalingrad border troops ???? phah))))) what a shame))) did not hear anything about the 10th division of the NKVD ???

[hohkn]

Quote: Garrett

in stalingrad border troops ???? phah))))) what a shame))) did not hear anything about the 10th division of the NKVD ???

10th Rifle Stalingrad Order of Lenin Division of the Internal Troops of the NKVD of the USSR - military unit of the internal troops of the NKVD of the USSRwho took part in the battle of Stalingrad.
https://topwar.ru/91841-chekisty-v-stalingrade-podvig-10-y-divizii-voysk-nkvd-sssr.html
Formed on February 1, 1942, on February 5, 1943, it was transferred to the Red Army and renamed the Rifle Division in the 181st Stalingrad Order of Lenin. And in its composition who was not there. Actually internal troops, employees of law enforcement bodies and state security, border guards.

[garrett]

you will argue until blue in the face ???)))) how do you do small

[ava09]

Do not confuse the NKVD troops and the Russian Guard. Different meanings are served.

[pin_code]

if you look closely, the NKVD troops went to the initial stage of the war.

[210ox]

They fought with dignity and glory throughout the war.

[pin_code]

You do not understand ... from me plus

[garrett]

And in the Second World War, how are the National Guard inscribed? Just like the cops?

you should be ashamed of your ignorance ... would be shy ...

[Okolotochny]

you should be ashamed of your ignorance ...

Yes, do not pay attention. Mikhan (Vitaly) will have more meaningful posts than this.

[LMN]

What other comments ?!

[Stas157]

There will be no normal ones. And if so, from the abnormal.

[rotmistr60]

For the Pessimist and Stas157:
Of course, everyone can express their opinion, but not to such an extent

It would be better if she weren’t.

Personally, in the morning I congratulated my youngest son (a veteran of the military base in Chechnya) on the holiday. When someone constantly tries to throw waste on a fan, others honor their military duty.

[rotmistr60]

Maybe you will tear off your fifth point and take an interest on the basis of what the Rosguard was created? Expert ...

[Vadim237]

Don’t worry, you have complete gag with intelligence.

[Ka-52]

And if people of the older generation take up arms where there will be a guard and where the hobbyists will hide.

before writing this, you need to at least imagine the price of this "take up arms." And the goal.
If you mean by the goal to do the best, then you have not learned anything in this life. Because in history there have been several revolutions and a mass of civil wars. And not a single revolution, not a single civil war brought what the leaders of these revolutions promised. The French ended with the terror and guillotine of the Convention. The October Revolution ended in civil war, famine, repression. Even modern color revolutions have brought nations only losses. Starting a civil war is easy - there are many fools. But unfortunately, one such fool as a victim accounts for a dozen innocent civilians: women, old people and children.

[76rtbr]

The fact is that at first this base protected the people from terrorism and now the government from the people, from parents, from children that would live in fear, correctly explained that it would be necessary that there would be no poor ......, How do they say it right?

[LMN]

Quote: Stas157

There was no Rosguard in Chechnya. She appeared later. Your comment is more suitable for this:

Quote: rotmistr60

someone is constantly trying to throw waste on a fan

The guys moved to Rosguardia. What's the problem ?!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

There was no Rosguard in Chechnya

There were explosives and riot police. Rosguard includes (oh, a miracle) the same explosives and riot police.

Quote: Stas157

She appeared later

And what has changed from changing the structure? People are the same, tasks are the same ... what's the difference?

Quote: Stas157

Your comment is more suitable for this.

No, mates. Yours is better suited for this. And almost any

[Loess]

Quote: Golovan Jack

There were explosives and riot police. Rosguard includes (oh, a miracle) the same explosives and riot police.

This is too difficult for him.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Less

It's too hard for him

Rather, it's just a reason to poke once again.

As far as I understand, the main idea of ​​creating the Rosguard is the withdrawal of the same riot police from territorial subordination. Thus, from the weapons of the local princes, the OMONs turned into a load suspended above their heads. Personally, I have nothing against it.

[Loess]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Rather, it's just a reason to poke once again.

Yes, it is clear.

[Okolotochny]

Rather, it's just a reason to poke once again.

Professional mourners like in ancient Rome on mourning processions.

[garrett]

People are the same, tasks are the same ...

no and no ... read the law on explosives, there the tasks are written for explosives, and then take the trouble to read the law on NG

[hohkn]

Quote: Golovan Jack

There were explosives and riot police. Rosguard includes (oh, a miracle) the same explosives and riot police.

Also, the SOBRs were there. Which are also now part of the Russian Guard.

[Boris55]

Quote: rotmistr60

Personally, in the morning I congratulated my youngest son (a veteran of the military base in Chechnya) on the holiday.

And I congratulated the grandson of the sutra on his professional holiday.

[Varyag71]

my condolences to my grandson

[Okolotochny]

my condolences to my grandson

To your relatives, about you. Waiting for ... a hero, but born ...

[Varyag71]

I suppose it takes pride when your hero beats the granddaughters of grandmothers, and hits the weak with a club. As they say, an apple does not fall far from an apple tree

[pin_code]

you do not cast a shadow on the wattle fence, where the Russian Guard and the Chechen war

[LMN]

Quote: pin_code

you do not cast a shadow on the wattle fence, where the Russian Guard and the Chechen war

Explain this to Stas157 ..

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: rotmistr60

Personally, in the morning I congratulated my youngest son (a veteran of the military base in Chechnya) on the holiday.

Congratulate him from me, sincerely. I would like to congratulate these people

I don’t want to congratulate these

[rotmistr60]

Congratulate him from me, sincerely

Thanks, be sure. The first photo to the point. He was just in charge of escorting the columns, covering the engineering intelligence, etc.

[AU Ivanov.]

I would like to congratulate the second even more. God forbid, if these "creative" come to power. And don't be so affectionate with them. Doesn't reach over the head - knock on the kidneys.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

I would like to congratulate the second even more. God forbid, if these "creative" come to power.

Who are you creative? Have you spoken to people about the authorities for a long time? In your opinion, the authorities can do any lawlessness, but if you are against it. then immediately "creative"?
Have you read the Declaration of Human Rights?
"... Whereas it is imperative that human rights be protected by the rule of law in order to ensure that a person is not forced to resort, as a last resort, to an uprising against tyranny and oppression... "

[AU Ivanov.]

Nothing that the power actions of the Ros Guard is a response to deliberately arranged provocations? I have never seen the use of force at concerted rallies of communists. Why? They do not allow professional provocateurs into their midst. And here: Yekaterinburg, Shies, Isaac. The same people, protestants are professional. And currency

[RitaNik]

In Shies, is the private security company, and not the Rosguard fighting? Or is it the same thing?

[AU Ivanov.]

I'm not talking about the security forces, I'm talking about people who inflate these actions and arrange provocations on camera. The same people, the same surnames. The same goals and this goal is not the prosperity of the country.

[Varyag_0711]

Ingvar 72 (Igor)
I don’t want to congratulate these

Yes? But congratulate these or curse too?

What an abomination came out in the comments about people who protect the peace and quiet of ordinary citizens.

All involved VoVanov again with a holiday men! To our not returning guys, ETERNAL MEMORY!
And all grumbling and stinking here, do not drown in their own smelly stool.

[bubalik]

Varyag_0711 (Alexey) Today, 15: 35

,,, and it all starts with a glass.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Varyag_0711

Yes? But congratulate these or curse too?

It's a pity, of course, the Golden Eagle, they were betrayed both under Yanukovych and later. Understand, I do not want to blame the rank and file of the guard, the authorities and their superiors, who are making a laying of them, are to blame. I would especially like to mention their superiors, who cut money even on the nutrition of fighters. And then he moans in response to crap about a duel.
But they are not children, they must understand whose defense they have taken. Grandmothers hands legs in the bus to carry a lot of courage is not necessary, as well as honor.

[Varyag_0711]

Ingvar 72 (Igor)
But they are not children, they must understand whose defense they have taken.

What kind of baby talk did you even have in the army? What is an order to take? And then, and whose defense did they take? For example, for two years I have protected civilians in the Caucasus from terrorists, so what? I was not able to take part in the dispersal of the demonstrations, but would they order and where would I go? By the way, we were not thrown into a 93rd demobilization after a small one. Maybe it was necessary to throw, and there would be no one now to whine about the oligarchs.

I would especially like to mention their superiors, who cut money even on the nutrition of fighters.

Fighters do not choose their own bosses, but obey what they are.

Understand, I do not want to blame the rank and file of the guard, the authorities and their superiors, who are making a laying of them, are to blame.

This happens under any government, and under the kings, and during the USSR, and in the modern Russian Federation the same thing. BB is just a tool for restoring order and nothing more.

[Okolotochny]

What kind of baby talk did you even have in the army?

Very correct question. You take an interest from one of the leaders of this sect, from Lexus - ached in the comments that you didn’t pass through health. These, which were marked by minuses today, with a probability of 99,99999% also did not serve in the army. And if they served, then somewhere in the capers, in bread slicers, etc.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Okolotochny

You take an interest from one of the leaders of this sect, from Lexus - ached in the comments that you didn’t pass through health.

All right, Alyosha, you got me! Let's give the full Lexus comment you are referring to !!! Otherwise, you will be a "talker"!
Unlike you, Lyokha passed the first Chechnya, but you somehow passed by. Well, you lovers in the back then say, it’s not masculine at all, you know Lexus in the bathhouse and can’t answer you.
There you are alone, with megalomania on board, (you are both "old-timer" here, you and the 51st, although there is one, like DShBist from RB), also yapped in my back ...
What kind of people are you for ??? pah ......, I even want to wash my hands, worse than a virus.

[AU Ivanov.]

If the grandmother crawls where it should not - then her place in the wagon. Maybe in her old age, her mind will be added, although I personally doubt it. Better let this old woman remember the Komsomol youth and go to the commies at the rally. They don’t screw there.

[Ingvar 72]

Single pickets with a banner - where shouldn't they be?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

If the grandmother crawls where it should not - then her place in the wagon.

Andrei, forgive me that I can not express to you all the words that are appropriate and suitable for you !!! But I ask you to believe that there are many of them and it was very difficult for me not to go beyond the rules.!

[Golovan Jack]

What, buddy, is baking? The aforesaid, after all, applies not only to grandmother

Quote: Stroporez

it’s really hard for me not to go beyond the rules

Yes, go beyond ... you go out earlier - you “sit down” earlier. The sooner you sit down - the sooner you leave ... romance

[mitroha]

Be that as it may, all BB employees on a professional holiday. I wish that situations where it would be necessary to use explosives would tend to zero.

[pin_code]

I support you, but always in our country a lot but ...

[yuliatreb]

I want to heartily congratulate the officers of the SOBR and the rank and file, sergeants and warrant officers of the OMON, who did not voluntarily refer to themselves as the National Guard, in fact, these units should always be that integral part. These units have their glorious pages and they gave their lives with honor, courage and courage, for the lives of others. Health to you guys and a peaceful sky above your head.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: yuliatreb

yuliatreb (Vasilisa Yulievna)

Thanks for the good comments!

[potap6509]

Happy holiday guys! USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs, 84-86

[Varyag_0711]

Happy holiday brother! VV MVD USSR / RF 91-93
How many slops have poured in the morning already. I would have all these clever clever for the collar and to the Caucasus, and there I would have looked what all these whiners are like, dodges unfinished.

[pin_code]

no one poured slop on you, personally to you and those who served in BB respect and respect (from the bottom of my heart).

[Okolotochny]

no one poured slops on you

Reverse gear engaged.

[potap6509]

And you brother with a holiday!

[Varyag_0711]

potap6509 (Potapov Yuri)
And you brother with a holiday!

Thanks bro!

[And]

Happy holiday !!! All health and good luck !!!

[garrett]

Happy holiday guys!

mutually bro

[Okolotochny]

VV MVD 92-93gg.

[Boris55]

March 27 - Troops Day National guard of the Russian Federation

About the name. There are ~ 200 nationalities in our country, therefore the creation of an armed formation of any one nationality is unacceptable. So that:
- Grew up. guard - yes;
- The National Guard - no.

For your information:

Federal Law of 03.07.2016 N 226-FZ (as amended on 18.03.2020) "On the troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation"

"" Article 2. Tasks of the National Guard

1. The following tasks are assigned to the troops of the National Guard:
1) participation in the protection of public order, ensuring public safety;
2) protection of important state facilities, special cargoes, facilities on communications in accordance with the lists approved by the Government of the Russian Federation;
3) participation in the fight against terrorism and extremism;
4) participation in ensuring regimes of emergency, martial law, the legal regime of counter-terrorism operations;
5) participation in the territorial defense of the Russian Federation;
6) assisting the border authorities of the federal security service in protecting the State border of the Russian Federation;
7) federal state "control" (supervision) over the observance of the legislation of the Russian Federation in the field of arms circulation and in the field of private security and private detective activities, as well as over ensuring the safety of fuel and energy facilities, over the activities of security units of legal entities with special statutory tasks and departments of departmental security;
(in the edition of the Federal Law from 05.12.2017 N 391-FZ)
(see the text in the previous "edition")
8) the protection of particularly important and sensitive facilities, facilities subject to mandatory protection by the troops of the national guard, in accordance with the list approved by the Government of the Russian Federation, the protection of property of individuals and legal entities under contracts;
9) ensuring, by decision of the President of the Russian Federation, the security of senior officials of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation (heads of the highest executive bodies of state power of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation) and other persons.
(item 9 is introduced by the Federal law from 07.03.2018 N 40-ФЗ)

2. Other tasks may be assigned to the troops of the National Guard by decisions of the President of the Russian Federation, adopted in accordance with federal constitutional laws and federal laws.

[Blue fox]

About the name. There are ~ 200 nationalities in our country, therefore the creation of an armed formation of any one nationality is unacceptable. So that:
- Grew up. guard - yes;
- The National Guard - no.
I agree to all 100%. And rightly and at the same time, we are moving away from not very pleasant analogies with the name “National Guard” in countries with whom, let’s say, we have not very friendly relations. As an example, when the police were renamed the police, my acquaintances, veterans of the conflict in Transnistria, bitterly ironized that they fought with the Moldovan OPON, and then in Russia instead of the OMON there would appear its own OPON. It did not happen, thank God.
And yes, I apologize, guys from VV with a holiday! Special greetings to the K15 group!

[pin_code]

she seems to be the Rosguard ...

[Boris55]

Quote: pin_code

she seems to be the Rosguard ...

In all official documents - national guard. Above is an excerpt from the law.

Medvedev stupidly copied the name from the West - "National Guard", not realizing that our country, in contrast to the West, is multinational or perfectly understanding and specifically gave such a name that all nations would take up arms against the National Guard (including . and the most numerous), not understanding whose interests, what nation these troops protect.

[pin_code]

I don’t know what the law is, but last night fighters came to our shopping center in the evening (ROSGUARD is written on the back). I think that everything has been taken into account for a long time, take a closer look on the street. I was also shocked

[AU Ivanov.]

There is a National Guard in the USA. And there will be more nationalities there than ours.

[Dmitry Bolotsky]

Maybe they have a holiday there. I do not have. For some reason, the whole world does not like gendarmes and policemen. I don’t know how in the country, in Moscow, police stations were closed with powerful concrete fences from a checkpoint - you just won’t get to them. I wonder who they are hiding from. There is nobody else besides us, whom they are supposed to protect. So - from us. It is known that a soldier will not go against his people. Therefore, such formations are created and cherished. The contingent is appropriate. He has nothing to do with the army.

[maidan.izrailovich]

For some reason, the whole world does not like gendarmes and policemen.

Did a local priest give you a lecture "about life" as a child?
A law-abiding citizen has nothing to fear from a man in uniform.

[pin_code]

if only the bangs in the form are not Inhumans. and more law obedient citizen and there is nothing to fear ..

[pin_code]

would put 10 minuses or 1000, it is a pity there is no possibility. your slogan probably, everyone should work for a penny and pray for the darkest, some just called him so recently .... but ... they don’t call anymore ... what's the question ???

[Dmitry Bolotsky]

Not a matter of speech. Minus. What does a man have to do with it? What makes you think that I am afraid? What does the thug jargon have to do with it? Who authorized you to discuss my childhood?
And so it turns out - like they said something, but in fact nothing and nowhere. And if in essence, then a few more questions. Who provides drugs, phones, girls with criminal scum in prisons? Who rides on gangster foreign cars, which seem to have to be sealed at special parking lots? Who hung stars on uniform more than stars in the sky? And what, you order for the past merits of these heroes to congratulate today's bandits in uniform?
And by the way, I expressed my opinion that I do not impose it on anyone and do not insult anyone. I just do not want to congratulate someone who is not worth it. And further. From time immemorial in our country, it was the National Guard that very often violated the oath and arranged all kinds of coups, participated in the murders of kings. The story, however. So that is a trash.

[garrett]

Not a matter of speech.

you re-read your koment I don’t know you, but I’m sure that you’re nothing, i.e. ABSOLUTELY do not know anything about BB. It seems that your knowledge of NG and BB is based on the series on cops and the STRAFFBAT film. I honestly burst from your notes, because gave explosives 22 years of his life, of which 5 years in the Chechen Republic, spent his whole life wandering around different flies changing garrisons and I know what the explosives live and what NG is doing now.

[Dmitry Bolotsky]

I reread my comment. I did not find anything offensive to others. A point of view without imposing it on others. But you and ABSOLUTELY nothing and burst through, tk. gave 22 years ... Why so many emotions? Is it unpleasant for you that I do not congratulate you? I wander all over the country, including in closed areas, there is also an acquaintance (I cannot call him a friend) Colonel VV, a maroon beret. Familiar since 2010. He left for the Chechen Republic as a major, 6 business trips in five years, about 3 years in total, Krasnaya Zvezda. And there is a friend, DShB VDV, major. Passed through all the hot spots. Only now he does not tear his vest on himself, and does not tell where he was, and there is no living place on his body - everything is covered in scars. And he talked with his wife, and she told how for 2 years he was rehabilitated to a citizen. And he also has tears when I sing "Deadly fire awaits us ...". What you watched on TV, I have no idea, there is no TV - I threw it out many years ago. But "Say a word about the poor hussar" I love it very much. So Basilashvili plays this colonel of mine there - one to one. The minus is not mine.

[garrett]

Are you unpleasant that I do not congratulate you?

what the hell are you talking about? (c) facepalm

Did not find anything offensive to others

this is your problem, you live with her ...

Only here he does not tear a vest on himself

umm ... and who is vomiting ??? are you sane at all ???

further down the line is just a stream of consciousness ... I don’t even know what you can discuss with)))

[garrett]

Dmitry Bolotsky
By the way, pay attention to how many minuses you threw why do you think people disagree with you ???

[garrett]

For some reason, the whole world does not like gendarmes and police

O RLY? what a deep thought

[Ka-52]

I wonder who they hide from

for those who can think, this is not a question. Any regional departments, places of deployment of units and subunits (at least the Armed Forces, at least the WG) are the primary targets for terrorist acts. In addition, a sufficient amount of small arms is stored in these places. Which also represents an increased danger. Therefore, there is no need to play spyomania and imagine that something is hidden from you personally there.

[Vadim237]

Are you sure you live in Moscow?

[Corsair71 (Anatoly)]

miserable vest

[Dmitry Bolotsky]

I don’t know what the cons are. Thought to write about it too. What nonsense - a red vest. Well, what kind of a sore head could this come to?

[garrett]

only in your place the vest is RED

[Million]

Well, for the guards!

[Stas157]

Not checking out.

[Boris55]

Quote: Stas157

Not checking out.

A joke from Putin about a dagger and a clock - remember?
If so, you can announce what time it is.

[Sergej1972]

In the photo, a soldier of the military police. This is a structure of the Ministry of Defense and does not apply to the Russian Guard.

[pin_code]

the title of blood guard is obtained, not by decree.

[Varyag_0711]

pin_code (Andrew 1974)
the title of blood guard is obtained, not by decree.

Ask at your leisure how much blood the NKVD / VV troops shed. Namely, based on them, the Rosguard was created. I also do not like the name Rosgvardia, but I didn’t rename it and ordinary boys had nothing to do with it. They simply fulfill their duty of policing.

[Million]

Seychaks can be ordered by decree. Gazmanov's son was given a medal for singing the song "Lucy" in Syria. Soon they will give the title of Honored Artist. And this is 30 thousand for pension at the moment.
And the boys who fought except gratitude on paper

[Snail N9]

Yes, I am also jarred from modern "iconostases". I remember my grandfather, who fought on the fronts of the Second World War from 1942 to 1943 (almost a year and a half, until he was seriously wounded) had only three military and three anniversary military awards: "For the Defense of Sevastopol", "For Courage" and "For Military Merit" and two wounds , the latter is difficult with demobilization. And now, you look at the "iconostases" of modern heroes and you scratch your turnips and where we have it now, "Kursk Bulge", "Operation Bagration", etc. are going on .... Is it possible that "Battle for Moscow" on "Bolotnaya" and "anti-terrorism" are so highly valued?

[Million]

Yes, now they distribute a lot of awards to anyone and for what ...
But real warriors, heroes, defenders, you won’t get

[Snail N9]

I have a neighbor, a "dog breeder", so the one, when they once started a conversation about awards, explained that the bosses are terrified, they love awards for themselves, but they hate awards on their subordinates' chests, fearing competition, on the contrary, they try to stick more punishments on subordinates, so that there was something, on occasion, "hold."

[Million]

And the unit commander was of Ukrainian origin to us. He loved pigs very much and built a big pigsty. It seems like a soldier feed meat and he had fun. And of course 2 pigs became the most respected soldiers. They were the first to go on demobilization with sergeant shoulder straps , and went on leave on Sundays, and went on vacation. Well, and of course, neither charging. neither clothes, nor PCBs are for them.
And while arriving at our facility, the commander first ran into the pigsty, and only then listened to the reports of the facility duty officer and the head of the guard ... So ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Snail N9

a neighbor, a "dog breeder", explained that the bosses are terrified, they like rewards for themselves, but cannot stand rewards on their subordinates' chests ...

Here, competently. No specifics, but a spoonful of "substance" thrown ... pros, what to say

[Nameless]

The Guard is not from the Soviet tradition of calling the elite or elite units of the armed forces, but from the translation of the word from inyaz as "guard".

[cost]

Krapov berets in his time did not meet. Therefore, I can’t judge anything about them.
But it's not a sin to drink for the "lizard" from the 12th detachment of the CHV "URAL". Good guys. In the early 90s we had to "chase" them through the mountains and taiga. We left a very good impression of ourselves.

[cost]

these were their chevrons. And what is surprising, almost every third comes from the Ural Cossacks. In the mountains and greenery, like at home. Serious "opponent"

All involved in the BB with a professional holiday !!!

[g1v2]

Happy Holidays everyone! Congratulations to all "Vovans"!
Guys, now various nits will begin to throw feces in comments in us. Do not take to heart. There were always enough stupid and unicellular wrestlers in our country. Remember, if you don’t protect the country, then it will stupidly fall apart as it was in 17 and 91 years. The fate of the country and millions of lives depend on you. It is a responsibility and a duty. This is much higher than tantrums and bowel movements of various unicellular. Ukraine has set an excellent example of how it happens. Nothing new. Everyone who writes nasty things here just dreams of how they will put you on your knees, like the Berkutovites in Lvov. This is absolutely the same audience and it wants the same. But something seems to me. that hell they break off on the collar and all his worthless life they will only have to throw the feces on the Internet.
In general with a holiday, men!

[garrett]

Now various nits will begin to throw feces at us in comments.

yes everything is normal))) here a couple of inadequate just something, the rest are normal people

[Glory1974]

I would give you 100500 pluses, thanks for the right words. Neither add nor decrease.

[pin_code]

fate depends on the people, and the Guard now is the people, so do not Dear Vitaly, now you are the only person to throw ficusels (with a small letter)

[And]

Yes, a dog with them, with the sick-headed.
Happy Holidays!

[Glory1974]

All related - happy holiday! Health, success in service (work) and strong rear of the brother!
I am proud of my service in the internal troops. My native operational division, as well as other DONs, is no longer there, disbanded, but the memory is still alive.
After the 1st Chechen campaign on the monument of 276 names, they gave their lives for their homeland and for their people.
On this holiday, we recall them too, and be sure to drink a third toast!

[georggy]

We rejoice to hysteria.

[Old partisan]

But I remember the warrior of the centuries comes out, the owner of the maroon beret Peresvet .. And the Tatars fled in fear and confusion.
Against a tolerant and unarmed people, these are Fighters.
With what I congratulate you!

[forester1971]

The Chechen fighters were especially tolerant and unarmed.

[Egg]

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Probably going to celebrate in Moscow: feel
Sorry, I do not know how to download video from the phone

[Snail N9]

Are you talking about it?

Well, Duc Coronovirus, zhezh :
“This [bus movement] is not related to any events or emergencies. The usual movement of one unit to another [place]. Without any pitfalls. There is no panic, no events, our usual internal affairs, the usual relocation, ”Valery Gribakin, spokesman for the Russian Guard, told Daily Storm.

Earlier, in Telegram channels it was reported that fighters of the Russian Guard in Moscow conduct raids "Stay at home", and will also patrol the capital to ensure a regime of self-isolation.

Regarding the participation of Rosguard employees in the Stay at Home raids, Gribakin said: “These raids took place, they are planned. Our employees of the Russian Guard are involved in ensuring public safety and the rule of law. In particular, employees of private security work as usual. Including carry out preventive work among citizens, among the population. This is a common practice. ”
The representative of the Russian Guard was unable to answer the question of whether law enforcement officers would really help the Moscow authorities to ensure a regime of self-isolation: “Contact Moscow,” he replied.

On the morning of March 26, Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin introduced additional measures to combat coronavirus in the capital, which will be in force from March 28 to April 5, 2020. They relate to restrictions on the operation of cafes, restaurants, parks, catering facilities and retail. These measures will not affect pharmacies, grocery stores and outlets selling essential goods, as well as courier delivery. In addition, the mayor urged believers to temporarily not attend temples. This is stated in the decree of the mayor.

[AU Ivanov.]

Do you have any other way to deal with a panic that could arise? In any case, panic will take much more lives than this coronovirus.

[pin_code]

I somehow don’t understand ... what relation does the Chechen war have to the Russian Guard and if this somehow affects the pension of the war participants, please unsubscribe. cons all put a lot on this subject, let's see who will answer the mail ...

[garrett]

I somehow do not understand

but what's not clear ??? NG - assignee of explosives. VV were participants of the Chechen company ??? Well, here’s the answer))) 3k is added to the pension for participating in hostilities, but this is not a pension.

[hohkn]

Quote: pin_code

what does the Chechen war have to the Russian Guard

You have already been answered that BB, OMON and SOBR (formerly divisions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs), which participated in full growth in the first and second Chechen ones, have entered the Rosguard.

Quote: pin_code

if it somehow affects the retirement of war veterans

There is a small supplement to the departmental pension. I can't say the amount (let the financiers say), but not thousands of rubles, but much less. When I retired, it was about 400 rubles. Plus, the pensioner pays a monthly cash payment, which is "simply huge" - this year they added 92 rubles, which is just over 3 thousand.

[Sergej1972]

Divisions, brigades, individual BB battalions that participated in the Chechen wars, now become divisions, brigades, separate battalions of the Russian Guard. The riot police and special police forces took part in those events, they are now also part of the Russian Guard. The Russian Guard is the assignee of the VV and a number of units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which were not part of the VV ..

[AU Ivanov.]

Happy holiday, guards! Work, brothers!

[Blaster]

Was the pearl ensign also a guardsman?

[forester1971]

Patrol service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

[Super]

Our defense against liberals and agents of the State Department! Happy holiday! Work brothers!

[serg.shishkov2015]

Happy Holiday, Sarov Division !! Thank you for protecting us! Hooray!!!

[depressant]

As early as March 17, there were reports in the press that, in particular, Uzbekistan was closing its borders in connection with the coronavirus, refusing to fully take out compatriots who worked in Russia in winter to their homeland. At the moment, enterprises employing Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kyrgyz and other guest workers are being massively closed, not only in connection with the coronavirus, but also because of the global economic crisis, which risks turning into a "perfect storm". Hundreds of thousands, or even millions of "winter" guest workers who have been left without work, without being able to go home, will quickly eat up a few supplies and will be thrown out of their homes for non-payment. And now the leader of the Uzbek community "Watantosh" Usman Baratov directly impudently threatened the Russian authorities with a social explosion, robberies, robberies, murders of local people, that is, you and me.
Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan have also sharply reduced the delivery of "friends" to their homeland. And in these conditions, it is at least strange to reproach the Rosgvardia for conducting exercises. Especially taking into account the fact that under the possible unrest of migrants from all cracks, home-grown criminal and terrorist elements will certainly creep out ...

Dear National Guard!
Happy holiday to you! Health to you and mental strength! Remember that you are part of your people! Be courageous and persistent!

[Tank hard]

Military Review congratulates all employees of the Russian Guard Veterans of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs with a professional holiday and wishes to continue to defend the Fatherland and express the interests of the people!

I join in the congratulations! Good luck and health.

[Varyag71]

Boss they have a rare clown

[hohkn]

Well, it didn’t depend on us, unfortunately.

[Super]

From someone from you? From the masters of the universe or what?

[hohkn]

Quote: Super

From someone from you?

But can you guess it yourself? From those who served before the reorganization in the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

[Okolotochny]

Dimusik, well, running home, quarantine, it's too early for you to go to school, mother is waiting. Further along Lavrov, Two Letters.

[yurikh]

I’m losing my mind. I thought of congratulating those who, like me, served in the BB, but this is happening. The dukes talk about what they don’t know. Where do the admins look? Glam troops are allowed to dirty every haml. Block these idiots already.

[Okolotochny]

Chevron Tiger. Far Eastern District VV?

[yurikh]

Yes, 21 OSN. Urgent service.

[samarin1969]

The guardsmen of Ivan the Great are simply saints compared to the modern "guardians". Those had harsh methods, but good goals.
These big guys are just for the peace of the corporations.

[Tank hard]

Quote: samarin1969

The guardsmen of Ivan the Great are simply saints compared to the modern "guardians". Those had harsh methods, but good goals.
These big guys are just for the peace of mind.

I don’t know who you are talking about, but I personally know those guys (from ordinary to officers). who stood and stand in defense of the most ordinary and ordinary citizens who have various rewards and injuries, often (90s) who did not have sufficient wages, but who went to capture such wolves. which feared seasoned operatives. I remember many. I remember how a fighter who left the OMON (could not support his family for such a salary), when the militants attacked the country, voluntarily went to serve, got appointed to the special forces detachment, to the group to combat sabotage and reconnaissance groups of militants, who had fought the whole company with a PC in the mountains that survived and at the end of hostilities retired to the reserve. I remember many, many. Honor and glory to them!

[Okolotochny]

Wow, a "deep-minded" post, "backed by facts." Are you one of the crowd offended? Do not be sad, observe the self-isolation mode.

[Sergej1972]

People seem to have lost their memory and brains. The discussion about the need to convert explosives into the National Guard took about ten years. And many generals and officers of the BB just advocated this renaming. But what was it called differently? Carabineers in the Italian manner? Gendarmerie in the French manner?

[Nameless]

In-in! It was an idea that seems even to Rutsky - in 1992 he proposed to transform the Ministry of Internal Affairs VV into the National Guard!

[Nameless]

Quote: pin_code

fate depends on the people, and the Guard now is the people, so do not Dear Vitaly, now you are the only person to throw ficusels (with a small letter)

There was a voice from the side of the bucket!

[Nameless]

Quote: Varyag_0711

I also do not like the name Rosgvardia, but I didn’t rename it and ordinary boys had nothing to do with it.

They called it Rosguard because in the media and in the minds of those who are near, there should not be any confusion with the infamous Pokoroshenko of the outskirts of the National Guard under the times.

[Nameless]

I’m late for the holiday ? Well messing around ...

Okay, let it be better late than never: brothers - you have no price ! Congratulations on the past holiday to all my brothers, I wish you all the best - success, happiness in your personal life, good luck, prosperity, good health.

PS - And do not worry so because of the attacks of local "fighters with the regime" - this local flora is only capable of conducting liberal / sovkodrocher propaganda with agitation, compromising and insinuating the current Russia and the government in the fragile minds of casual visitors. All these propagandists in Hell will be fucked up by the devils with hot pokers!