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“Instead of Ukrainian BTR-50”: Indonesia explained the need for Russian BT-3F

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The Ministry of Defense of Indonesia allocated $ 286 million for the purchase of 79 BT-3F units, as a result, the country's armament will consist of 100 vehicles of this type. This was reported by Defense Studies, citing data not confirmed by officials.


As indicated by the local edition, the Indonesian Navy's landing ships are currently equipped with military equipment of types AMX-10P [French infantry fighting vehicle manufactured since 1972], BTR-50P [Soviet armored personnel carrier, adopted in 1954], BTR-50PK [command version] and LVTP-7 [in service with the United States ILC since 1972] due to the lack of more suitable products that meet the "standards of the Marine Corps".

34 units BTR-50PK were purchased in 1997 in Ukraine and delivered in 1999 along with three BREM-2.

BTR-50PK was accepted in a new condition and was never used, it was stored in a warehouse for a long time

- writes Defense Studies, not mentioning the delivery of 100 BTR-50P actually to the Marines (possibly due to the fact that they have already been decommissioned).

In 2009, 35 LVTP-7 tracked amphibious landing vehicles were purchased in South Korea. Of these, only 10 units were delivered, as Washington banned the transfer of this equipment released in the United States.

In April 2019, the Marine Corps ordered 21 units in Russia. BT-3F in the amount of $ 67,2 million, and also purchased 22 “amphibious tank»BMP-3F worth $ 108 million

Thus, as the publication explains, at present there is only one battalion set of amphibious assault vehicles of 87 units. At the same time, in accordance with the adopted military doctrine of MEF-2024, at least 3 landing battalions are required. That is, to replace and replenish the existing fleet, 261 vehicles will be required (both wheeled and tracked).

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  1. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 27 March 2020 06: 12 New
    -11
    I'm certainly not iksperd, but Indonesia .... In total, the official statistics in Indonesia totals 17804 islands ... just a question ... what the hell does the army contain, moreover, not able to ensure the security of the country with 17804 islands? money nowhere to go? buy diesel generators for every family. Now in the world there is such a situation. That Indonesia is accidentally remembered. Right now, two threats to Russia. and the virus ... wassat
    1. KCA
      KCA 27 March 2020 06: 27 New
      +4
      It is also not possible to capture 17804 islands, it is clear that they will protect the capital and the most developed islands, and what is the protection of the island on which a couple of fishing families live? Dried fish to get hold of Friday?
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 27 March 2020 08: 17 New
        +6
        Quote: KCA
        It is also not possible to capture 17804 islands, it is clear that they will protect the capital and the most developed islands

        And is it necessary to capture everything in order to take control?
        An example of the actions of Japan in WWII in this region, says that it is not necessary.
        Quote: Aerodrome
        . What kind of horseradish contain army, moreover, not able to ensure the security of the country

        Everyone, both small and large, hopes that he will "carry" and will be able to fight back.
        And there are more than enough challenges before the Indonesians.
        This is traditionally Japan, and of the "new" - the Republic of South Korea, and the PRC ...
    2. Private-K
      Private-K 27 March 2020 09: 44 New
      0
      Quote: Aerodrome
      in Indonesia, 17804 islands ... just a question ... what the hell does an army contain, moreover, is not able to ensure the security of a country with 17804 islands?

      Of these 17804 islands, only two are strategically important for Indonesia as a state - Java and Sumatra. Kalimantan (formerly Borneo) is already ... a wild place. The rest - and Sulawesi, and even Bali - trailer / bonus.
    3. knn54
      knn54 27 March 2020 09: 59 New
      +3
      There were enough separatists in Indonesia, and East Timor even managed to achieve independence at the turn of the century.
      No one can guarantee that tomorrow somewhere will not blaze.
    4. ccsr
      ccsr 27 March 2020 12: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Aerodrome
      I'm certainly not iksperd, but Indonesia ...

      Actually, Indonesia is our oldest buyer of floating armored vehicles since the beginning of the sixties. So we need not be surprised, but rather develop precisely this direction for that region, especially taking into account Malaysia and other tropical island states.
  2. LMN
    LMN 27 March 2020 06: 28 New
    -5
    Indonesia has not yet resolved the issue of Russian aircraft ... request
    Now also BT-3F

    Are the rats fleeing the ship?
    .
    1. Ilya-spb
      Ilya-spb 27 March 2020 07: 06 New
      +4
      If you want to buy, you need to sell.

      Just do not accept payment with palm oil.
      Better - fresh fruit. Vitamins are needed now.
      1. LMN
        LMN 27 March 2020 07: 21 New
        -1
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        If you want to buy, you need to sell.

        Just do not accept payment with palm oil.
        Better - fresh fruit. Vitamins are needed now.

        Of course you need! yes
        Only now "what year" we sell them the Su-35 ..
        https://topwar.ru/167402-su-35-ne-jeffektiven-v-indonezii-vystupili-za-perehod-na-peredovoj-istrebitel.html
        Now is another tyagomotin?

        I agree that you need.
  3. Bykov.
    Bykov. 27 March 2020 06: 28 New
    +6
    Why did the BTR-50 become Ukrainian?
    1. Private-K
      Private-K 27 March 2020 09: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: Bulls.
      Why did the BTR-50 become Ukrainian?

      This refers to the BTR-50 modernized by Ukraine from the Soviet presence.
    2. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 27 March 2020 11: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Bulls.
      Why did the BTR-50 become Ukrainian?

      with the letter.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 March 2020 06: 33 New
    +4
    The BTR-50PK is certainly not bad (in the 3rd year of the school I was trained in the regiment on these armored personnel carriers), but this is still the last century. And Indonesia’s cooperation with the Russian defense industry is welcome.
    1. svp67
      svp67 27 March 2020 07: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The BTR-50PK is certainly not bad (in the 3rd year of the school I was trained in the regiment on these armored personnel carriers), but this is still the last century

      And nevertheless CHEAP, and for those conditions is magnificent
    2. Private-K
      Private-K 27 March 2020 09: 47 New
      +1
      (in the 3rd year of the school, he underwent an internship in a regiment on these armored personnel carriers)
      Is it possible in more detail from here? As I understand it, it was back in the 80s and the division was 5% staffed somewhere in the taiga like Skovorodino Far East?
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 27 March 2020 10: 39 New
        +1
        In 1975 in Primorye.
    3. IL-18
      IL-18 27 March 2020 10: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      last century

      But 2,5 tons of cargo by water can deliver. Taking into account the reservation, the organization of the possible defense of a wild, but importantly located island, these armored personnel carriers are clearly not in a landfill.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 27 March 2020 10: 47 New
        +2
        Well, nobody talked about the landfill. By the way, if I’m not mistaken, in some places there are long-term storage. In the 70-80's, it was indispensable for certain conditions. Therefore, in Primorye there were regiments on these armored personnel carriers. In our 123 Guards. the division where he began serving as a lieutenant, one SME on BMP, the other on BTR-60PA interspersed with 60 PB, and a regiment of 50 PCs. One nuisance is the strong gas contamination of the landing squad.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 27 March 2020 06: 35 New
    +2
    What suits them best is taken ... by the master, master.
  6. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 27 March 2020 06: 57 New
    +1
    In vain, they refused the chubat technique ... There is a bonus there, too, with trousers and the shmat of fat.
    1. svp67
      svp67 27 March 2020 07: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      There is a bonus there - harem pants and shmat.

      It is doubtful .... the harem pants are clearly old, worn, and from the fat only the packaging remained ...
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 27 March 2020 08: 26 New
      -1
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      In vain, they refused the chubat technique ... There is a bonus there, too, with trousers and the shmat of fat.

      Second-hand harem pants are suitable only for rags, and with a complete set of bacon, shnevemerliky generally lost.

      Indonesia:
      According to the 2000 census, the proportion of Muslims is 86,1%Protestants - 5,7%, Catholics - 3%, Hindus - 1,8%, Buddhists and followers of other religions - 3,4%
  7. Glenni
    Glenni 27 March 2020 09: 18 New
    0
    Here's what you can do from MTLB and the Singer sewing machine!
    1. IL-18
      IL-18 27 March 2020 10: 39 New
      0
      This is based on the BMP-3f.
  8. Sova
    Sova 27 March 2020 13: 08 New
    0
    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
    In vain, they refused the chubat technique ... There is a bonus there, too, with trousers and the shmat of fat.

    So the Indonesians are still Muslims, so fat is not allowed. So the fat from them has already ended, they are being bought abroad.
  9. Alexxx Alexxx
    Alexxx Alexxx 28 March 2020 16: 03 New
    0
    Let the planes first pay under the contract. Otherwise, they will be scolded by Faitington for cooperation with Russia.