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Serbian media: how to revive air defense based on the Pechora air defense system

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Recently, a military delegation from Serbia visited Belarus, familiarizing themselves with the progress of overhaul and modernization of four MiG-29s, which should be transferred to Belgrade. At the same time, the question of cooperation on other projects was raised, the implementation of which is designed to revive individual segments of the national defense.


"Shell-S" is only the first step


According to Assistant Minister of Defense Nenad Miloradovich, in particular, the possibility of improving the air defense systems that are in the arsenal of the country was discussed. Belarus has already modernized a number of products for the needs of foreign customers - the S-125 Neva and Pechora air defense systems (export version), 2K12 Cube and Square, P-18 radar, that is, precisely those systems that the Serbian is equipped with army.

As explained by Miloradovich, Belgrade began to restore its anti-air potential after the acquisition of the Mistral air defense system from France and the Pantsir-C1 air defense system from the Russian Federation:

The "shell" has become a good basis for the long-awaited modernization of air defense.

What further steps the military will take in this direction tried to understand the publication of Tango Six. According to him, back in 2017, the former head of the military department Zoran Dordevitsa announced Minsk’s readiness to donate two air defense systems subject to payment of their overhaul and modernization or to sell the S-300.

Currently, Serbia’s 250th Air Defense Missile Brigade has two S-125M1T Neva divisions and three 2K12 Cub-M1 divisions in service. Some of them underwent modernization, but it can not be compared with the improvement options that Belarus offers. As Tango Six notes, Minsk is currently promoting two advanced modifications of the S-125 and one “Cube” / “Square”.

Serbian media: how to revive air defense based on the Pechora air defense system

"Halberd"


Hope for Belarus


The Tetrahedron company offers the S-125-2TM Pechora-2TM complex, the development of which began in December 2006. It is characterized by increased resistance to interference, greater fire accuracy (hit ratio 0,85), range (maximum 35,4 km) and altitude (25 km) of action and is able to work on targets with low ESR (0,02 sq. M) ) and with a flight speed of 900 m / s. Along with the updated air defense systems, the P-18T and P-19T radars can be used, including in the mobile version. The users of this type of air defense system are Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Vietnam.

The second option is offered by the Alevkurp company. S-125-2BM Pechora-2BM (Halberd) has been developed since 2011. Its performance characteristics are also significantly superior to the Neva, but, as Tango Six notes, this type looks “slightly weaker” compared to the Pechora-2TM. "Halberd" has increased resistance to interference, greater accuracy of damage (from 0,72), range (maximum 30 km) and altitude (22 km) of action and is able to work on targets with a speed of 800 m / s. Turkmenistan became its only customer.

“Alevkurp” also promotes an improved version of “Square”, which received the prefix “MA”. The damage range is 42 km, in height - 25 km, the speed of the target - up to 1200 m / s. According to Tango Six, in terms of its performance characteristics, this system is close to the Russian Buk-M2 product. Her only buyer is Myanmar.


"Square-MA"
Photos used:
https://www.alevkurp.by/
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  1. Bongo
    Bongo 26 March 2020 13: 50 New
    +5
    Belarus has already modernized a number of products for the needs of foreign customers - S-125 "Neva" and "Pechora" air defense systems (export version), 2K12 "Kub" and "Kvadrat", R-18 radar, that is, precisely those systems that the Serbian is equipped with army.
    It is doubtful that the S-125 "Neva" air defense system was supplied to a foreign customer, and not its export modification. And what kind of equipment is this 2K12 air defense system? Club-M1 and radar P-18 ? what
    “Alevkurp” also promotes an improved version of “Square”, which received the prefix “MA”. The damage range is 42 km, in height - 25 km, the speed of the target - up to 1200 m / s. According to Tango Six, in terms of its performance characteristics, this system is close to the Russian Buk-M2 product.
    Is the "improved version" of the single-channel "Square" "really close to the multi-channel SAM" Buk-M2 "in its capabilities? lol
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 26 March 2020 14: 02 New
      +3
      Victims of advertising.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 26 March 2020 14: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: Bongo
      And what kind of equipment is such an air defense system 2K12 Club-M1

      Not "Club-M1 ", and" Cub (Cube) -M1 ".
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 26 March 2020 14: 17 New
        +6
        Quote: Piramidon
        Not "Club-M1", but "Cube-M1".

        Rather, the export modification "Square". Another question is why such "bloopers" are crawled when preparing material for publication? request
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 26 March 2020 14: 21 New
          0
          Quote: Bongo
          Why do such "bloopers" appear when preparing material for publication?

          It may have already been corrected, but I did not find the "Club (Club)" in the article, especially since all the names in it are given in Cyrillic and not in Latin, except for R (P) -18. request
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 26 March 2020 14: 24 New
            +3
            Quote: Piramidon
            It may have already been corrected, but I did not find the "Club" in the article, especially since all the names are given in Cyrillic and not in Latin.

            Indeed, already fixed. yes
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 27 March 2020 14: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Bongo
      Is the "improved version" of the single-channel "Square" "really close to the multi-channel SAM" Buk-M2 "in its capabilities?

      There is one more question - whether the main problem of "Cuba" / "Square" was solved during the modernization. Namely - "blind" launchers without radar.
      After all, the Buka SDU did not appear from scratch, but based on the results of the Arab-Israeli, when it turned out that the only SURN "Cuba" / "Square" makes it extremely vulnerable. For its failure (after meeting with the PRR or other URO) meant the failure of the complex as a whole: there is a launcher, but it is impossible to launch it.
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 27 March 2020 14: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexey RA
        There is one more question - whether the main problem of "Cuba" / "Square" was solved during the modernization. Namely - "blind" launchers without radar.

        I doubt it deeply. Such a deep modernization is actually the creation of a new complex. It will be too expensive. In this case, we return to the "Cube-M4" with an additional self-propelled gun mount 9A38.
  2. Sky strike fighter
    Sky strike fighter 26 March 2020 13: 57 New
    0
    SAM "Mistral" in France and MANPADS "Shell-C1" in the Russian Federation

    On the contrary, the Mistral MANPADS and the Pantsir-S1 SAM.
    Serbs save or not? MANPADS Mistral is not cheap. It would be better if they bought Igloo-C.
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 26 March 2020 14: 25 New
      0
      Apparently the article was immediately corrected. In any case, I did not see
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      SAM "Mistral" in France and MANPADS "Shell-C1" in the Russian Federation

      Everything is printed correctly SAM "Mistral" and SAM "Pantsir C1"
    2. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 26 March 2020 14: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      It would be better if they bought Igloo-C.

      The Mistrals are slightly superior to the Igloos, especially in speed.
      In addition, the French sold it in a package. And there are ECO Serbs of interest to them.
  3. knn54
    knn54 26 March 2020 13: 58 New
    0
    "Comrades from Ethiopia" will also be useful.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 26 March 2020 17: 34 New
      -1
      Quote: knn54
      "Comrades from Ethiopia" will also be useful.

      Apparently, these "comrades" have spent all the money for the dam, if they are negotiating with the Square. Those have already thrown how many.
  4. V.I.P.
    V.I.P. 26 March 2020 14: 01 New
    +5
    Normal modernization among Belarusians. Change the analog equipment to digital. From a tracked chassis or a stationary launcher, they switch to a wheeled chassis (cheaper to maintain and higher mobility). With rockets, I do the same thing to increase efficiency. As they say cheaply and efficiently ..
  5. Romario_Argo
    Romario_Argo 26 March 2020 14: 02 New
    +3
    in Iran’s air defense there are also similar to the Kvadrat-MA air defense system, allegedly of Iranian design, and the chassis is the same as the Belarusian one. called SAM raad
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 26 March 2020 14: 14 New
      +6
      Quote: Romario_Argo
      in Iran’s air defense there are also similar to the Square-MA air defense systems, allegedly of Iranian design, and the chassis is the same as the Belarusian

      Yes, but it's more like a Buk.
      It is clear that "Cube" and "Buk" are related, but it is strange to say that single-channel and multi-channel complexes are close in their capabilities. request In addition, it is not clear where for the modernized "Kvadrat" missiles of the 3M9 family are taken, the production of which was discontinued in the mid-80s, and their warranty storage period has long expired. Personneling the engine with solid fuel, even in the factory, is still a headache, and the electronic filling of the missiles must be changed.
      1. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 26 March 2020 14: 16 New
        0
        In addition, it is not clear where for the modernized "Kvadrat" missiles of the 3M9 family are taken

        Probably / Possibly - these are Belarusian missiles delivered to Iran (?) / (!)
        * it will be a surprise if it comes up that this is a dawn from the Shtil-1 air defense system with some kind of AGSN
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 26 March 2020 14: 20 New
          +2
          Quote: Romario_Argo
          Probably / Possibly - these are Belarusian missiles delivered to Iran (?)

          In Belarus there are no capacities for the production of missiles, maximum repair. And you will look at what kind of rocket is on the photo of the wheeled Iranian SOU presented to you. Understand a lot ... wink
          1. Romario_Argo
            Romario_Argo 26 March 2020 14: 23 New
            0
            And you look at what kind of rocket in the photo you submitted

            on the tail of the SAM - it seems that a purely Iranian development.
            BUT, again, this is possibly an export or simply inert product (!)
            1. Bongo
              Bongo 26 March 2020 14: 30 New
              +2
              Quote: Romario_Argo
              on the tail of the SAM - it seems that a purely Iranian development.

              Well, not really Iranian.

              1. Romario_Argo
                Romario_Argo 26 March 2020 14: 34 New
                0
                in the Iranian Zur, the tail unit comes close to the tip and nozzle of the SAM
                - so definitely NOT 9M317
                1. Bongo
                  Bongo 26 March 2020 14: 39 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Romario_Argo
                  in the Iranian Zur, the tail unit comes close to the tip and nozzle of the SAM
                  - so definitely NOT 9M317

                  Do you believe that the IRI independently created a multi-channel air defense system strikingly reminiscent of the Belarusian Buk-MB on the Buk-MB chassis? This is the Iranian version of 9M317.
                  1. Romario_Argo
                    Romario_Argo 26 March 2020 20: 02 New
                    0
                    I do not know what to think, I need to see this air defense system Raad in work
                    so we’ll find out the channel, range, and which heads on the missiles are ARGS or semi-active
  6. iouris
    iouris 26 March 2020 14: 55 New
    +2
    This means that Ukraine can receive an order. Or Belarus. But Serbia will not have air defense on this "basis."
  7. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 26 March 2020 14: 57 New
    +1
    Serbia may need all this in the near future. Specialists talk about the plans of Kosovar igilovites to start a war against Serbia, including the seizure of Belgrade.
  8. IL-64
    IL-64 26 March 2020 18: 02 New
    0
    And what, the probability of defeat 0.72 is more than 0.85? what
  9. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 27 March 2020 01: 37 New
    +1
    Here's someone to help, the Serbs .. And not everyone there, macoroni ...
  10. sanik2020
    sanik2020 27 March 2020 12: 47 New
    0
    In Belarus there are no capacities for the production of missiles, maximum repair. And you will look at what kind of rocket is on the photo of the wheeled Iranian SOU presented to you. You will understand a lot

    There are already capacities, but the old earth-to-air and air-to-air missiles are being repaired and modernized by replacing the filling with a new, domestic one with improved characteristics.
  11. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 27 March 2020 12: 48 New
    0
    https://vpk-news.ru/articles/56075

    Here is an article about a possible Kosovar invasion of Serbia in April-May this year.
  12. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 27 March 2020 21: 23 New
    +1
    Clearly, no one has yet surpassed Russia from the USSR to upgrade the defense industry !!!