"Altius." Heavy Russian drone with artificial intelligence

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The Altius is a heavy Russian long-range drone with a maximum payload of over a ton. The UAV made its first flight in August 2019. In February 2020, the official website of the Russian Ministry of Defense announced that the final version drone received the name "Altius-RU". The deployment of the production of a heavy reconnaissance and strike drone is planned to be carried out at the facilities of the Ural plant of civil aviation, which is currently engaged in development work on this topic.

Altius will teach you how to think


Soon in the arsenal of the Russian Aerospace Forces there will be a new heavy reconnaissance and strike drone Altius, which will receive elements of artificial intelligence (AI). The UAV will be able to operate autonomously without the participation of an operator, as well as independently interact with the promising fifth-generation Russian fighter Su-57. It is reported that a new reconnaissance-strike drone will be able to independently lay a route to a target or a given patrol area without a human operator, bypassing a potential enemy’s air defense zones, and also detect and attack important ground targets: missile launchers, communication centers, and headquarters. An apparatus with similar capabilities is not yet at the disposal of the Russian Aerospace Forces. According to experts, the new drone will become truly universal weapons.



According to the newspaper "News" referring to its own sources in the military-industrial complex, the country has already begun work on the creation of an updated version of the heavy reconnaissance and strike drone Altius-RU. The new drone will receive elements of the AI ​​system, and it will be possible to remotely control the device from the board of the Su-57 fighter. It is reported that all the necessary equipment that the UAV will give its “brains” will be installed on the device until the end of 2020, after which the period of technical testing of the new product will begin.

It is assumed that the elements of artificial intelligence will give the device new opportunities, including the ability to attack ground targets on its own. Having received the coordinates of the target, the UAV using its on-board computer will be able to draw up an algorithm for finding the optimal route to the target of the attack, and also calculate the most suitable point for dropping bombs. The drone will be able to do all this without the help of an operator, while the combat drone will receive all the information from the headquarters in real time on the air situation and the location of the enemy’s air defense facilities and build its flight, processing the incoming information. Having completed the combat mission, a heavy drone will be able to return to the base in automatic mode along the safest route or return to the patrol zone and continue to solve reconnaissance missions.


It is worth noting that currently military drones at all stages of the flight are trying to control operators working from the ground. The AI ​​elements installed on Altius should help reduce the load on the operators of unmanned systems, which is especially important for long flights and long patrols. For a large reconnaissance and striking apparatus, this is especially true, since such a UAV is able to be in the sky for more than a day.

Using a drone in conjunction with a modern fifth-generation fighter is also a very important function. In September 2019, the Russian Ministry of Defense for the first time demonstrated an example of such interaction involving the Su-57 and the 20-ton strike drone S-70 Okhotnik, which is currently the largest such aircraft in our country. The Altius UAV will also be equipped with the same opportunity to interact with a manned aircraft. Experts note that thanks to the instruments at his disposal, the pilot will be able to find targets and transmit their coordinates on board the UAV via a secure communication line. After receiving information from the pilot, the drone will be able to proceed with the combat mission in an independent mode without the participation of the operator.

Russian experts note that modern Russian drones, which include "Outpost" and "Altius", are already comparable in their characteristics to their Western counterparts. For example, according to its characteristics, Altius can compete in the global arms market with the American MQ-9 Reaper UAV (Reaper). Moreover, the use of drones in the armies of all countries in the future will only increase. Unmanned aerial vehicles are already showing themselves excellently in reconnaissance missions, allowing them to discover important targets that they can hit on their own. The development, construction and widespread use of reconnaissance and strike drones will help in the long run to save human lives, saving people from unnecessary risk.

Technical capabilities of the Altius-RU drone


The modern Russian unmanned aerial vehicle Altius-RU (reconnaissance-strike) is the final version of the Altair UAV, which has been created since 2011. At the final stage of its work, it was also known as Altius-U (strike). By design, the Altius-RU drone is a heavy turboprop long-range unmanned aerial vehicle.


However, today not all the technical data of the drone are still known. For example, in February 2018, the official website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported that the Altius heavy UAV could carry up to two tons of combat load. But today in the press, including on the Zvezda’s thematic website of the Ministry of Defense, more and more often you can find other data on the payload of the device - up to 1000 kg.

The new Russian unmanned aerial vehicle Altius is built according to the classical aerodynamic design with a highly located wing of a large scope and a V-tail. It is known that Altius was built with the wide use of composite structural materials. The power plant of the apparatus is represented by two turboprop engines located on the wing consoles, the engines drive two pulling screws. Apparently, we are talking about VK-800C engines developed at the Klimov Design Bureau. This engine is designed for installation on light aircraft and helicopters (VK-800V version) and produces a take-off power of 800 hp. The approximate wing span of the UAV is up to 30 meters, length - about 12 meters, take-off weight - more than six tons.

In 2019, the UZGA plant introduced a revised version of the unmanned vehicle, which received a satellite communications system. Using such a system, the Altius UAV flight range is limited only by the fuel supply on board. According to experts, the emergence of such a system allows reconnaissance and strike drone to conduct reconnaissance and attack targets at a distance of hundreds or thousands of kilometers from their home base. It is known that Altius can be in the sky from 24 to 48 hours, and its maximum flight range should be 10 kilometers. At the same time, the apparatus will be able to conduct reconnaissance from a height of 000 thousand meters.

The device’s features also include its equipment with the SP-2 inertial navigation system, which should reduce the possibility of detecting the device in the air, providing the UAV with additional resistance to induced interference and operation in the conditions of electronic countermeasures from the enemy. It is assumed that as an armament the drone will be able to carry Grom-2 planning bombs with a total mass of 598 kg (warhead weight of 480 kg) and a launch range of 10-50 km or Grom-1 guided missiles with a launch mass of 594 kg (warhead weight 315 kg) with a launch range of up to 120 km. This assumption was put forward by Izvestia journalists.


Altius has been created for nine years


"Altius" is classified as a heavy drone, it is one of the three large shock dronescurrently being developed in Russia. At the same time, Altius is an apparatus of a very difficult fate. Work on it began back in 2011, but nine years later the device is still not put into mass production, and the entire process of its development was accompanied by various problems and a high-profile scandal, the echo of which is still walking around Kazan.

Initially (in 2011), an order to develop a heavy unmanned vehicle weighing up to five tons was issued to specialists of JSC Simonov Research and Development Bureau in Kazan. The work was carried out jointly with Transas from St. Petersburg. The first public demonstration of the model of the future drone took place in February 2013. At that time, the drone was called "Altair".

Then the project suffered two blows at once. The first is the sanctions introduced against Russia in 2014, which left the device without German diesel aircraft engines, which it was planned to equip all drones. Information about the start of flight tests of experimental samples appeared only in 2016, and in 2017 it became known that the Simonov Design Bureau is experiencing a shortage of funds for the completion of the project and continued work.

This was followed by a second blow. An immortal Russian plot has come into play. In April 2018, the court arrested the Director General of OKB. Simonov Alexander Gomzin, whom the investigation suspected of embezzlement of 900 million rubles allocated for the development of a heavy drone. This story not over yet. At the same time Design Bureau them. Simonova is in danger of bankruptcy, and at the end of 2019 the Moscow Arbitration Court accepted the lawsuit of the Russian Ministry of Defense against the former developer of the Altius UAV - JSC NPO Experimental Design Bureau (OKB) named after Simonov "totaling 643,8 million rubles.


Against the backdrop of the scandal and the ongoing trial, the development of a new drone was moved from Kazan to Yekaterinburg. In December 2018, during a visit to Kazan, Alexei Krivoruchko, who is the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation in charge of the logistics of the armed forces, said that work on the heavy drone was transferred to a new contractor. Which was the Ural Civil Aviation Plant (UZGA), which mastered the serial assembly of the Forpost drone, as well as its localized and modernized version of Forpost-R.

In December 2019, the Russian Ministry of Defense signed a new contract with UZGA JSC for the development of design and experimental work on the Altius-RU unmanned aerial vehicle. This is the final version of the UAV, to which the military and developers came up with the results of all tests of prototypes of a heavy drone already released. It is reported that this version will combine all the requirements of the military and the latest Russian achievements in the field of creating unmanned aircraft. This version should become the main one for the deployment of mass production and deliveries to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. It is planned that it is Altius-RU that will enter service not only with the Russian Air Force, but also with the Russian Navy.
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  1. +11
    27 March 2020 05: 59
    long and arduous road to heaven. I hope the Urals will not disappoint, the thing was extremely necessary yesterday. but the "patient" is rather alive, and this pleases.
    1. +3
      27 March 2020 07: 41
      "Altius." Heavy Russian drone with artificial intelligence

      Apparently, he is capable of becoming the "long arm of the Russian state" in solving a number of tasks in the current "interwar period" ...
      And in a possible war, such weapons will also not remain idle.
      Quote: Aerodrome
      I hope the Urals do not disappoint, a thing really needed yesterday


      Let them rather "put on the wing" Yes ...
      1. +8
        27 March 2020 09: 45
        Quote: Insurgent
        he is able to become the "long arm of the Russian state" in solving a number of tasks in the current "interwar period"

        At the very least - a convenient "anti-barmal" weapon. When the enemy does not have aviation and any intelligible air defense, such machines are very practical: less workload on the crew, less operating cost, the ability to patrol given areas for a long time, etc.
        1. +3
          27 March 2020 15: 04
          Quote: Kalmar
          Quote: Insurgent
          he is able to become the "long arm of the Russian state" in solving a number of tasks in the current "interwar period"

          At the very least - a convenient "anti-barmal" weapon. When the enemy does not have aviation and any intelligible air defense, such machines are very practical: less workload on the crew, less operating cost, the ability to patrol given areas for a long time, etc.

          If we had a squadron or two of such drones at the Khmeimim airbase, the life of the barmalei would be much more complicated.
          The General Staff would be aware of every movement of the Idlib insurgents.
          They would be afraid to once again get out of their holes. Blows would be delivered around the clock.
          It is likely that if in 2015 we would have entered Syria with the Altius, Idlib would have been ours, and the situation in Trans-Euphrates would have been different ...
    2. -2
      28 March 2020 10: 45
      cytius, altius, fortius, faster, higher, stronger.
      In this Russian army, there is already little Russian left that is left, everything is not in our opinion. Who is sitting there, the Latins gathered? Will these Latin planes / tanks / armata shoot at the Latins? Or do they have other goals?
    3. 0
      April 4 2020 14: 16
      court arrested the director general of OKB them. Simonov Alexander Gomzin, whom the investigation suspected of embezzlement of 900 million rubles

      Something that capitalism does not take root in the Russian Federation, quite a few who, as they get a million, so they lose their mind, they try to hide all the money. Or we need a total tax, as in the states that Carleone planted for tax evasion. The police could not pinpoint the mafia, since he did not leave evidence, and the tax could. Strict accounting of income and expenses is a great thing, accounting is able to identify discrepancies by which the theft of money is calculated in the early stages, they would quietly call Gomzin into the office, they would order them to return and not arrest and they would make the plane.
      1. 0
        April 6 2020 14: 57
        Only not Carleone (this is the name of the mafia family from the books and films "The Godfather"), but Capone.
  2. +8
    27 March 2020 06: 48
    The power plant of the apparatus is represented by two turboprop engines located on the wing consoles, the engines drive two pulling screws. Apparently, we are talking about VK-800C engines developed at the Klimov Design Bureau.

    Engines and electronics !!! to do better, efficiently, as it is NECESSARY! And do not talk in vain about
    "Altius." Heavy Russian drone with artificial intelligence
    no AI so far, no one has done this, BYe!
    1. +3
      27 March 2020 07: 37
      Hush, colleague! It is impossible at the end of the week to beat so painfully on wet dreams! And then, Gromova, she wrote about the March exacerbations, so it may happen to anyone, and from the readers! ...
      Well, this is a retreat, but in fact, I agree with you. Moreover, I will add a financial problem. Most likely the development end will be shifted to the right, and the final performance characteristics (including AI) will be slightly lower.
      1. +5
        27 March 2020 08: 19
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        It is impossible at the end of the week to beat so painfully on wet dreams!

        Yes, I myself DREAM what would work for us, everything turned out AS NECESSARY! all the times "hard" used to be, for many who did not have money for everything, WERE.
        Defense is that aspect of OUR life, on which it is more expensive for the COUNTRY to "save".
      2. +2
        27 March 2020 13: 34
        and the final performance characteristics (including AI) will be slightly lower.

        Yes, much lower then? he didn’t say anything reasonable, unrealizable, and still not realized, even a couple of decades ago.
    2. 0
      27 March 2020 09: 43
      Quote: rocket757
      no AI yet, no one has done this

      In the wash - no? Various AIs are built in everywhere, even in the civilian sector: take at least cars with autopilots. The question is purely how "intelligent" this particular AI is. However, at the present stage of technology development, it is quite realistic to create an AI that will drive the UAV along a certain route, collect data from the radar / OLS and signal to the headquarters when something interesting is found.
      1. 0
        27 March 2020 09: 50
        Quote: Kalmar
        In the sense - no?

        Then the question is - What is AI?
        What works according to a given algorithm or something else?
        1. +3
          27 March 2020 10: 40
          Quote: rocket757
          Then the question is - What is AI?
          What works according to a given algorithm or something else?

          Any computer program works according to a given algorithm. Only this algorithm can be complex, fuzzy and quite capable of imitating some aspects of the work of human intelligence: recognition, learning, memorization, etc.

          Something like that, say, automatic image recognition programs (for example, the very ones with which citizens are tracked on the streets in China). The military commissar has the same story: according to similar algorithms, an anti-ship missile finds and recognizes its target among interference and other distracting factors.
          1. +2
            27 March 2020 10: 56
            Quote: Kalmar
            Only this algorithm can be complex, fuzzy and quite capable of imitating some aspects of the work of human intelligence: recognition, learning, memorization, etc.

            The key here is "imitate", and fuzzy logic is good for Indesit cars and for the Tokyo subway. It's too early to even say that you can trust AI weapons.
            1. +3
              27 March 2020 11: 03
              Quote: Harry.km
              It’s too early, in general, to say that you can trust AI weapons.


              Do not forget the UAV there is an operator.

              Elements(I emphasize) AI is given what can be given given the level of their development.

              The rest is MAN,
            2. +1
              27 March 2020 13: 59
              Quote: Harry.km
              The key here is "imitate"

              Well, do not stick a living brain into a drone, right?

              Quote: Harry.km
              fuzzy logic is good for Indesit cars and for Tokyo subway

              Not only.

              Quote: Harry.km
              It’s too early, in general, to say that you can trust AI weapons.

              Well, the question is the degree of trust. Anyhow you don’t trust any weapon either. And so, the same RCC is completely trusted by the search and recognition of targets in the final section; man no longer affects this process.
            3. 0
              April 4 2020 14: 23
              It’s too early, in general, to say that you can trust AI weapons.

              But it sounds loudly, foreign countries are fighting over AI, building centers, the amounts are invested more than the budget of the Russian Federation, but they don’t have stupid results, but we won’t like that, we already have AI, we can not invest money in science, but withdraw abroad.
        2. +2
          27 March 2020 20: 34
          Quote: rocket757
          Then the question is - What is AI?
          What works according to a given algorithm or something else?

          The principle is simple.
          There is a problem that was solved only by the intellectual effort of man and nothing else. For example, operations with numbers. But here is a device that solves this problem. This is AI. So the countdown can be safely carried on from an arithmometer.
          The only question is how this intellectual device can solve this difficult task, because, for example, face recognition (like neural networks do) is orders of magnitude more complicated than operations with numbers. But both of them work according to algorithms.
          Another thing is that for some reason people expect from the AI ​​precisely the ability to THINK as a person, and this is fundamentally wrong.
          1. 0
            April 4 2020 14: 26
            There is a problem that was solved only by the intellectual effort of man and nothing else. For example, operations with numbers.

            Accounts are also AI? you can count numbers on them.
            1. 0
              April 5 2020 10: 15
              Quote: nickname7
              Accounts are also AI? you can count numbers on them.

              Scores, slide rule and so on. facilitate the count, but still the person thinks in the mind.
              But the calculator, which allows, for example, to extract the square root with the click of a button, without bothering the mosk with any actions with numbers - is already definitely an AI.
      2. 5-9
        +3
        27 March 2020 10: 43
        Surround, humanity to AI (the real antilekt, and not Tesla's autopilot, etc.) as to Proxima Centauri ...
        1. +4
          27 March 2020 10: 45
          Quote: 5-9
          Surround, humanity to AI (the real antilekt, and not Tesla's autopilot, etc.) as to Proxima Centauri ...

          What do you consider "real AI"? And is it needed in military equipment? Or is it important for us that the UAV with its brains could not only conduct reconnaissance, but also play the guitar, sort out potatoes and vote with their hearts?
          1. 5-9
            0
            27 March 2020 10: 55
            Then there’s no need to talk about AI .... I’ll be able to fly and scout, but I think it’s possible to do it, but to conduct a maneuverable air battle - oh, how soon. To scout, to identify the ground target, to make a decision yourself, to hit is easier, but not the fact that it will be realized in the near future (successfully) ... here and the Chilaweks how many weddings were canceled.
            1. +1
              28 March 2020 07: 32
              Quote: 5-9
              but to conduct a maneuverable aerial battle - oh how not soon
              They have been using toys for a long time, what's the problem? The simplest option: the radar detected, "friend or foe" did not respond, rendezvous, missile launch, evasion maneuver (if the seeker is active). Further it develops towards taking into account the receipt of external data, any ambushes, etc. On the ground, confidently recognizing a target at high speed is a problem.
          2. +1
            27 March 2020 10: 57
            Quote: Kalmar
            What do you consider "real AI"? And is it needed in military equipment?

            In the article, in contrast to the title, it is indicated
            drone "Altius", which will receive elements of artificial intelligence (AI).

            feel the difference.
            It is either AI, or something else that no elements of AI will make it fully.
            The headline, the usual journalistic temptation ... no complaints, because the article stated correctly.
            1. +2
              27 March 2020 13: 25
              Quote: 5-9
              Then you don’t need to talk about AI .... I’ll be able to fly and scout, but I think it’s possible to do it, but to conduct a maneuverable air battle - oh, how soon

              Quote: rocket757
              It is either AI, or something else that no elements of AI will make it fully.

              You, gentlemen, have apparently revisited "The Terminator" or "Westworld."

              AI is not a complete electronic analogue of human consciousness. It is just some program that has the ability to self-study within certain specified limits (if this is straightforward in a very simple way) and make "creative" decisions based on this learning. That's all. Google for the keywords "neural networks", "machine learning", etc.

              What to teach AI to UAVs is already a separate question, determined, among other things, by technical capabilities: you cannot put a supercomputer into it, so this AI will be "created" within some very narrow framework. Yes, yes, "to fly and explore", no one sets the task of maneuvering air combat before him. By the way, I am also unlikely to be able to engage in a maneuverable battle - can it be argued on this basis that I am devoid of intelligence?
              1. 0
                27 March 2020 14: 01
                Quote: Kalmar
                AI is not a complete electronic analogue of human consciousness.

                on this issue, if not a complete mess, then there is no single, FINITE definition.
                therefore, something with AI elements ... let them call them what they want. Over time, it will settle down and there will be one clear definition, as is usually the case.
                1. +1
                  27 March 2020 17: 11
                  therefore, something with AI elements ... let them call them what they want. Over time, it will settle down and there will be one clear definition, as is usually the case.


                  Let them tell a crocodile in a river or a shark in the sea. They have AI, there is no AI ... They will devour even Einstein or Nietzsche without any intelligence. The drone must have an instinct program (or a combination of them) that combines a bunch of simple reflex programs. Like any living creature, up to humans. And it must be sharpened to "complete the task and survive." If the drone has enough cannonball brains for this, then that's enough, no more.
                  The man is too proud of himself. Iron or animals do many things better than "homo sapiens".
              2. 0
                April 4 2020 14: 40
                AI is not a complete electronic analogue of human consciousness. This is just some program.

                This is called autopilot, but not AI.
          3. -1
            April 4 2020 14: 37
            what do you consider "real AI"?

            AI is intelligence that is not worse than human intelligence, it must pass the Turing test, be able to think, speak, write, compose poems and music. There is nothing of the kind here. Why do people mention AI to UAVs? This is again the same "song" as hypersound, that is, PR and loud words, which are used to cover nakedness like a fig leaf of effective managers. There is no success, they use loud words to inspire uryakalok.
        2. 0
          27 March 2020 10: 58
          Quote: 5-9
          Surround, humanity to AI (the real antilekt, and not Tesla's autopilot, etc.) as to Proxima Centauri ...

          Or maybe it's good? And then, mankind can’t figure it out, and then the AI ​​will start to help it ... or harm it (as it’s lucky))))
    3. +2
      27 March 2020 09: 52
      Quote: rocket757
      no AI yet, no one has done this


      Be lenient towards the authors. They need a catchy headline. The inclusion of a trend term "AI"they have achieved this.

      Then it follows (information in a more practical way):
      Soon, the new heavy reconnaissance and strike drone Altius will appear in the arsenal of the Russian Aerospace Forces, which will receive ELEMENTS artificial intelligence (AI).
      1. +1
        27 March 2020 10: 59
        There are no complaints ... everyone earns, for a buter with oil, as he can. If there is no harm, let them be.
    4. 0
      27 March 2020 13: 32
      no AI so far, no one has done this, BYe!

      Yes, nonsense, have long been done, a lot of everything including flying.
  3. 0
    27 March 2020 07: 11
    This thing with such a wingspan is more likely to be used as a long-range high-altitude scout. Rather, it looks like a glider with engines. Is his performance characteristics anywhere?
    1. 0
      27 March 2020 11: 46
      Quote: Ros 56
      This thing with such a wingspan is more likely to be used as a long-range high-altitude scout. Rather, it looks like a glider with engines. Is his performance characteristics anywhere?

      ====
      there is little here, I don’t know how new:

      Design - UAV of normal aerodynamic configuration with a large wing span, two engines and a V-shaped tail. Many UAV systems - power supply systems, as well as on-board control equipment - will be fully or partially unified with similar UAV systems R&D "Inokhodets" developed by "Transas"

      Interesting power plant of the new UAV. It consists of two turboprop engines located on the center section. Obviously, when choosing such a power plant, several goals were pursued. First, ensuring relatively low fuel consumption (compared to turbojet engines), and secondly, sufficient thrust. In addition, the use of two engines on the wing instead of one in the fuselage may indicate measures taken to reduce vibrations transmitted to the target equipment of an unmanned aerial vehicle, or the banal impossibility of simultaneously entering a power plant and electronics into the fuselage volume. One way or another, this arrangement has its advantages. This is the already mentioned isolation of equipment from vibrations, as well as smaller propellers in comparison with a screw of one engine, the power of which is equivalent to the two used. In this case, you can achieve some weight and overall savings on chassis units.

      The UAV uses the first water-cooled V12 diesel engine, designed specifically for German-made aviation. All-aluminum body parts, including cylinder block support structure. The original design of the dry sump, providing a constant oil pressure regardless of the position of the aircraft. Two turbochargers provide the necessary power characteristics and the possibility of additional boost. Integrated gearbox in front of the engine to control propeller speed. The engine management system (ECU), using design features, allows you to separate the left and right sides, forming two 6-cylinder power units. Lack of electromagnetic interference produced by the engine.

      Performance characteristics:

      Weight - up to 5000 kg
      Flight range - up to 10 km
      Flight Duration - 48 hours
      Engine type - 2 diesel engines RED A03 / V12 turbocharged and liquid cooled
      Engine displacement, cc: 6134
      Turbocharger engine type: 2 pcs. (1800 - 2200 MBAR)
      Engine Fuel System: CRDI
      Take-off engine power, hp: 500 (373 KW)
      Specific fuel consumption, gr / kWh .: 225
      Maximum continuous engine power, hp: 480
      Maximum engine speed, rev .: - 4000
      Engine torque, Nm .: 1100 at 3800 rpm
      Engine Life, hours: 3000
      Fuel type: JET A (kerosene) or diesel
      Engine length, mm .: 1102
      Width of the engine on a head of cylinders, mm .: 741
      Engine width by exhaust pipes, mm .: 850
      Engine height, mm .: 706


      Armament / Options:

      Optical Species Intelligence Station with Optoelectronic System
      AFAR radar side view in the bow
      1. 0
        April 6 2020 15: 14
        So, it’s written directly in the article that the German engines were hacked off with sanctions and will be put in place by domestic ones.
  4. -6
    27 March 2020 07: 12
    Electronics and spare parts will certainly be bought in China. I would immediately call this miracle of high technology an educational target for enemy pilots and anti-aircraft gunners
  5. -5
    27 March 2020 07: 14
    9 years and no end in sight .... Yes - "so we will win"!
  6. +4
    27 March 2020 07: 27
    This is all beautiful and exciting, and the prospects are simply "dizzying", but I would very much like to see at least a detachment of a dozen of these machines, even without AI, which can be installed a little later, during modernization, to guard our bases in Syria ...
  7. bar
    +1
    27 March 2020 07: 56
    The deployment of the production of a heavy reconnaissance and strike drone is planned to be carried out at the facilities of the Ural Civil Aviation Plant

    Vague doubts torment me. Is this a substitute for a regional plane, which Manturov seems to want to release there too? Or how? Will UZGA cope with such a nomenclature of products being piled on it? Or simply there are no other living enterprises to which it can be entrusted, and they all fall one?
    And the very transfer of the project from hand to hand like hot potatoes somehow does not inspire optimism.

    UAV will be able to work ... interact with the promising Russian fifth-generation fighter Su-57

    But what about the "hunter"? Was it already drained? It was also planned for "interaction". And how, purely physically, this piston slug can interact with a supersonic fighter?
    The article raises many questions, too many what
    1. -1
      27 March 2020 11: 00
      Quote: bar
      The article raises many questions, too many

      But for me, only one question is obvious. When???
    2. 0
      April 6 2020 15: 16
      Does religion allow you to read an article before commenting in the "I have not read, but I condemn" style?

      Everything is written there and there are answers to both of your questions.
  8. 0
    27 March 2020 08: 36
    Such an electronic filling will cost more than the device itself. And in regional conflicts and for reconnaissance purposes, a simple and inertial navigation system is enough. Yes, make them bigger already, and don’t tell from year to year what will be the coolest of all the coolest.
  9. -2
    27 March 2020 09: 03
    The device has been being developed since 2011, and Shoigu has become the Minister of Defense since April 2012. OU I? That money cannot be divided? Does everything go to women? It was possible to rivet more than one hundred such UAVs! Moreover, it already flies in the gland. I don’t believe that Chinese people fly, but our "brains" do not have enough mind to finish what we started?
    1. mvg
      -7
      27 March 2020 10: 00
      but our "brains" do not have enough to finish what we started
      ...
      China has diesels, components, radar. and most importantly, working corporations. and we have "theft of 900 million" and that’s all ... and sit on the needle of Moscow Region. so who are more likely? especially simple UAVs are not interesting to us, come on to us
  10. +1
    27 March 2020 09: 39
    business is moving, it is already encouraging
  11. +1
    27 March 2020 09: 59
    I’m wondering why 2pcs of diesel engines (with problems in production) can’t be replaced with a single theater?
    1. -7
      27 March 2020 10: 46
      There is nothing to change! There are no engines, no, in general ... German diesel by the way, like a glider ...
      Installing two engines is stupid of course ...
      1. 0
        27 March 2020 11: 05
        You can, for example, some of the variations of TV3117 ... in some minimum power ...
    2. 0
      April 6 2020 15: 18
      Quote: Victorio
      Design - UAV of normal aerodynamic configuration with a large wing span, two engines and a V-shaped tail. Many UAV systems - power supply systems, as well as on-board control equipment - will be fully or partially unified with similar UAV systems R&D "Inokhodets" developed by "Transas"

      Interesting power plant of the new UAV. It consists of two turboprop engines located on the center section. Obviously, when choosing such a power plant, several goals were pursued. First, ensuring relatively low fuel consumption (compared to turbojet engines), and secondly, sufficient thrust. In addition, the use of two engines on the wing instead of one in the fuselage may indicate measures taken to reduce vibrations transmitted to the target equipment of an unmanned aerial vehicle, or the banal impossibility of simultaneously entering a power plant and electronics into the fuselage volume. One way or another, this arrangement has its advantages. This is the already mentioned isolation of equipment from vibrations, as well as smaller propellers in comparison with a screw of one engine, the power of which is equivalent to the two used. In this case, you can achieve some weight and overall savings on chassis units.


      Something like that.
      1. 0
        April 6 2020 15: 20
        And what kind of theater is it?
  12. -5
    27 March 2020 10: 53
    Another victory. The German glider, the German engine, the foreign equipment. What’s Russian there? Press releases, that’s 100% done in Russia ...
    only a complete nerd will use foreign engines, and even diesel in Russian conditions for UAVs of this class. Diesel thrust at high altitude drops by 30-50%, starting it in winter is a problem, you must add a low specific long-term power and obvious problems in cases of sanctions.
    1. -1
      27 March 2020 10: 59
      So they are christening ...
    2. +4
      27 March 2020 12: 24
      Quote: ElTuristo
      only a complete nerd will use foreign engines, and even diesel in Russian conditions for UAVs of this class.

      It’s also not clear to me how foreign engines and components will put this on a basic military drone, especially since such engines do not work without an electronics unit, which means we are provided with bookmarks. Yes, and operation will require working capacity from -50 to +50, and then what about a diesel engine?
    3. +1
      27 March 2020 15: 02
      Engines declared domestic, VK-800.
      The glider itself is of no difficulty, probably also ours.
      But the hardware and digital parts raise big questions, because in Russia compact, but powerful and protected electronics are simply not produced. Probably, by tradition, commercial Chinese, Taiwanese and Korean components are widely used.
    4. -1
      28 March 2020 00: 11
      Quote: ElTuristo
      German engine

      Quote: ccsr
      how it will be put on a basic military drone foreign engines

      The article clearly says:
      ".... the sanctions imposed on Russia in 2014, which left the device without German diesel aircraft engines, which it was planned to equip all drones with ......"
      Therefore, at the moment:
      "..... The power plant of the apparatus is represented by two turboprop engines, ........
      we are talking about the VK-800S engines developed at the Klimov Design Bureau. This engine is designed for installation on light airplanes and helicopters (VK-800V version) and delivers 800 hp takeoff power ........ "
      1. -1
        28 March 2020 14: 49
        Minus received for citing the article under discussion. Survived.
    5. 0
      April 4 2020 14: 48
      finished nerd will use

      You dodges minuscule for doubts.
    6. 0
      April 6 2020 15: 21
      Pancake. Are you basically not reading the article before writing delusional comments?

      In the same place, the Russian language says that the German diesel engines planned for installation, ALREADY cut off sanctions. And now it is planned to put domestic engines on it.
  13. 0
    27 March 2020 11: 07
    "Soon (!) Will be equipped with artificial intelligence." It remains to start.
    1. -1
      April 4 2020 14: 56
      Left to start

      They will soon plan a bureau planning organization that plans to make a layout, the layout will be shown to the public as proof of the military power of the Russian Federation. Some authors will compare the layout with the raptor and come to the conclusion that we have better.
  14. -2
    27 March 2020 11: 07
    Against an American jet-powered drone, it is like a Su-57 vs F-22. Americans have been flying for many years, but ours don’t know when they will be
  15. +1
    27 March 2020 11: 51
    Great article. The author is well done. And TTX within the norm laid out and indicated the history of development.
  16. +1
    27 March 2020 13: 11
    Only the engine is not a turboprop, but nothing ... The engine was developed with the money of the Russian Federation, respectively. All CD and rights to it with us and, if necessary, can be produced here in the Russian Federation. The glider is also ours, just the all-scooters are a little off topic.
    How anyone interacts with whom, you can read about Link 16, we just have an analogue of it.
    1. +1
      27 March 2020 14: 53
      Quote: Rafale
      Only the engine is not turboprop, but nothing ...

      ...
      The power plant of the device is represented by two turboprop engines ... Apparently, we are talking about VK-800C engines
      1. 0
        27 March 2020 16: 54
        "Tactical and technical characteristics:

        Weight - up to 5000 kg
        Flight range - up to 10 km
        Flight Duration - 48 hours
        Engine type - 2 diesel engines RED A03 / V12 with turbocharging and liquid cooling ... "
        Maybe after all diesels?
  17. +1
    27 March 2020 13: 31
    It's funny, if they finish it in five years, and the troops will be purely for parades. Unmanned aircraft in the Russian Federation has been killed and will never be able to catch up with China, let alone the United States, the whole train has left. You can at least introduce 100500 unnecessary technologies for years, only while this is happening and happening "partners" have done - applied - gained experience, and now, taking into account all this, they will create more advanced models. Let the "Pitriots" wait for the minuses and attempts to prove my allegedly wrong, only the facts from this will not cease to be facts.
  18. +1
    27 March 2020 14: 57
    It is very good that a similar apparatus is being created in the Russian Federation. And I want the information presented in the future tense to soon be replaced by a statement of the fact that it was created, tested, put into operation, and the MO received the right amount.
    1. 0
      April 4 2020 15: 01
      it’s good that a similar apparatus is being created in the Russian Federation

      Well is not a process, it is good when there are products in the army.
  19. +1
    27 March 2020 17: 05
    All photos have gasoline or diesel engines. The turboprop nozzle. Probably no fresh pictures.
    The first pictures of "Altair" - a smooth fuselage without corners and protrusions. And here the EPR was clearly increased. To track down bandos and terrorists is the thing. But the weapon pleases, it is a missile with a range of 120 km. And about AI ..... now every washing machine has AI elements.
  20. 0
    27 March 2020 17: 24
    Now erroneous attacks on civilian targets can be attributed to AI.
  21. 0
    27 March 2020 19: 06
    And if you put one jet engine?
    1. 0
      27 March 2020 19: 24
      And where to get it
      1. +1
        27 March 2020 19: 25
        We must already begin to develop! In any case, drones to be.
  22. 0
    27 March 2020 21: 17
    I think it’s worth more quickly in the series and more in the troops.
  23. 0
    28 March 2020 13: 06
    For too long we give birth to what our army needs now.
  24. 0
    28 March 2020 17: 38
    Why is Russia always doomed to catch up? And not only the USA and Germany, but now also Turkey. Where are our engineers, technicians and skilled workers? Or are we only effective managers like Sechin and Miller who receive (do not earn) so much that their personal salary would be enough to maintain a small aviation design bureau?
    1. +1
      28 March 2020 21: 55
      Quote: froger
      Why is Russia always doomed to catch up? And not only the USA and Germany, but now also Turkey. Where are our engineers, technicians and skilled workers?

      Spent too much money on soccer players / hockey players and basketball players. There was no money left for the engineers. There, and so the last of the Mohicans are sitting. And while the young ones begin to suck in - a lot of time will pass. As one KAI graduate told me several years ago: Why would I go to the plant for 25000 rubles as an engineer, without the right to go abroad and the prison daily routine, if I can have more in any commercial organization with a relatively free schedule?
    2. 0
      April 4 2020 15: 03
      Where are our engineers, technicians and skilled workers?

      They left for other places, because they have nowhere to work, because liberals say why should we produce if we can buy on the world market.
  25. 0
    28 March 2020 21: 51
    Yeah. Talk about him has been going on for 10 years. I do not understand one. Initially, piston engines of 500 hp were prepared for it, which they wanted to do under a license from a German company. Now they are talking about turboprops.
    The fact is that turboprops have a strong thermal footprint and fuel consumption per kg of weight per second is higher. This is both range and time, while giving a greater practical ceiling. Those. when using a DVZ, it is impossible to use, for example, an air-to-air missile with a dual-channel infrared seeker, and with a turboprop, you can even use a single-channel missile — old missiles. And where did 1 ton of load go? He was prepared for 2 tons.
    And what about rockets for him Attack, or is it still being prepared for a new product? very interesting...
  26. +2
    29 March 2020 01: 47
    Quote: Rafale
    "Tactical and technical characteristics:

    Weight - up to 5000 kg
    Flight range - up to 10 km
    Flight Duration - 48 hours
    Engine type - 2 diesel engines RED A03 / V12 with turbocharging and liquid cooling ... "
    Maybe after all diesels?


    When to them. Simonova led, there were diesel, under the German license Red. Then I got a seam with the gene director (it is written in the article) and when they transferred the ultrasound scan there they adapted a turboprop VK.

    It is not clear that from Simonov, either he really pulled and profiled the loot for a long time, or how we like raider capture.
    Initially, I assumed that the raider, because Simonov’s very close-knit team refused to work and really spoke (the employees of the enterprise themselves) in an interview with the media about raiding ...
  27. 0
    29 March 2020 07: 45
    Well done! one can only rejoice, though it does not look like a high-rise one, it probably falls under the influence of air defense (what is its ceiling).
  28. 0
    29 March 2020 17: 19
    The Urals won't let you down!
  29. 0
    April 2 2020 06: 29
    AI will take from Poseidon. Business then. At 32 pieces in stock.
  30. 0
    13 June 2020 17: 54
    Russian engineers tensed, and a weak, poorly armed drone was born, far behind its competitors from the USA, Israel, Turkey, and China.
  31. 0
    15 June 2020 14: 26
    Here is a difficult case - when the state gives a lot of money for the development of the necessary UAV Air Force, and most of the performers are trying to "pilfer into their pockets." And it's worth it. And the UAV doesn't fly anywhere.
  32. 0
    21 February 2021 05: 43
    Until the bribe-takers begin to cast ... by the decision of the court and they are not found voluntarily hanged in their cells, nothing will move. Only Saint Joseph the Great was able to defeat corruption - and he was the first after Peter the Great to begin to deal with this issue again. But there were no tolerant methods.
  33. 0
    3 October 2022 22: 02
    So, 2022, we have a war. Where is this miracle drone? Right now, a hundred of these to the front! Someone will be responsible for sawing the bobble and the lack of necessary equipment at the front?

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