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Shoigu spoke about the attempts of the Russian opposition to infiltrate military facilities

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Shoigu spoke about the attempts of the Russian opposition to infiltrate military facilities

The head of the Russian military department, Sergei Shoigu, speaking at the Federation Council, spoke about the attempts of the Russian "pro-Western" opposition to penetrate Russian military facilities, as well as the dissemination of "fake" information.


According to the Minister of Defense, Western politicians and the media constantly make resonant accusations against Russia, such as interference in the US election, hacker attacks, concealment of military losses, while at the same time directly interfering in the internal affairs of the Russian state. Basically, Shoigu noted, this is done by the hands of the Russian opposition, which exists with Western funds.

Shoigu told senators that Western opposition is being picked up by the Russian opposition, which is constantly receiving funds from its Western "employers" and is regularly trained abroad.

Hiding behind media laws, pro-Western activists try to infiltrate military installations and hunt for relatives and witnesses. They climb into the hospitals where our wounded lie, in cemeteries, in commemoration, in the families of our dead children. They remove the entrances and exits from our closed facilities and upload them to the Internet. One can imagine what responsibility they would be brought to in Western countries.

- declared Shoigu.

The Minister of Defense drew attention to the fact that Russian legislation in this area is not regulated, which does not allow criminal prosecution of these "activists", and urged senators to pay attention to this issue.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 25 March 2020 13: 09 New
    +81
    One can imagine what responsibility they would be brought to in Western countries.


    I understand everything, but maybe it's time to stop talking.
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 25 March 2020 13: 12 New
      +13
      The Minister of Defense drew attention to the fact that Russian legislation in this area is not regulated, which does not allow criminal prosecution of these “activists”

      You can start with administrative. There is clearly an analogue of our article in Russia
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 25 March 2020 13: 20 New
        +68
        Yes, what is this "opposition".
        The opposition criticizes the mistakes of power and offers alternative solutions. For the good of the country.
        And if he douses, criticizes everything, stuffs pockets from foreign “investors”, spies directly, and offers “to sell everything, and give us money” - this is not the opposition. This is the fifth column.
        There is no opposition in Russia.
        1. cniza
          cniza 25 March 2020 13: 23 New
          +46
          This is not the opposition, it is an unprincipled paid jackal that has neither a homeland nor honor ...
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 25 March 2020 13: 58 New
            +4
            Well, why?
            They pour into their ears from the whole Internet that this is a state of oligarchs, the poor people (they) only suffer, and everything that is done in the state is strictly against them.
            They are assured that honor and conscience are precisely the ability to harm "this power."
            Do you think that such brainwashing does not work at all?
            1. cniza
              cniza 25 March 2020 14: 05 New
              +11
              There is such a percentage of people, but it is insignificant in comparison with those who feed on it.
            2. Malyuta
              Malyuta 25 March 2020 15: 26 New
              -14
              Quote: Mestny
              They are assured that honor and conscience are precisely the ability to harm "this power."

              And where does this power come from honor and conscience? if only from dampness.
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 25 March 2020 16: 32 New
                +9
                Quote: Malyuta
                And where does this power come from honor and conscience? if only from dampness.


                those. do you think power is bad and opposition is good?

                the opposition has good faces, a warm heart and clean hands
                and yes, honor and conscience

                do you want to say that?


                but for me, this opposition should be attracted for treason and espionage, and those "opposition organizations" that have been highlighted on this should be declared undesirable and closed.

                Let them engage in politics - this is the business of the opposition.

                Poked in the military or on the objects - to the answer!

                1. akshor
                  akshor 25 March 2020 16: 38 New
                  -5
                  I personally want to say on my own that the government has not gone far from those with whom it scares. solid citizens of hostile countries, saw cutters, boyars.
                2. tatarin1972
                  tatarin1972 25 March 2020 17: 43 New
                  +11
                  I think that this is not the opposition, but a clear enemy, which needs to be exposed and punished according to the Criminal Code.
                  1. not main
                    not main 25 March 2020 22: 21 New
                    +1
                    Quote: tatarin1972
                    I think that this is not the opposition, but a clear enemy, which needs to be exposed and punished according to the Criminal Code.

                    To do this, it is desirable to revive SMERSH. Maybe under the new abbreviation.
                    1. tatarin1972
                      tatarin1972 26 March 2020 08: 33 New
                      +2
                      Death is just an abbreviation of the military counterintelligence of the Great Patriotic War, is there really no military counterintelligence now? Another thing is that the CPC has become toothless in a number of articles that relate to treason.
                3. dauria
                  dauria 25 March 2020 18: 17 New
                  +9
                  Poked in the military or on the objects - to the answer!


                  The military has UG and KS. It is enough for a sensitive object. If Shoigu served in the army, he would know about it. If his subordinates tremble - these are the problems of the commanders. And to deal with "writers from the opposition" is not his business. Especially give advice to the legislature.
                  1. K-612-O
                    K-612-O 25 March 2020 19: 14 New
                    -4
                    Read the law on mass media for a start, according to it you can climb into any sensitive facility, and if you shoot so the commander and the guard do not get washed, they will also put him for murder.
                    1. dauria
                      dauria 25 March 2020 20: 51 New
                      +8
                      the commander and the guard will not wash off, they will also put him for murder.


                      You also did not serve in the army, like Shoigu? UGiKS - the same law. No worse than the constitution. And by this law must open fire after a boring mandatory procedure. Read from memory, or do you find yourself? It was instructed that you choose which is worse - to slap this stupid moron according to the law, or run into troubles with the bosses.
                      You choose the second, as usual. Who served understands perfectly. And this choice comes between the words "Stop, back" and "Stop, I will shoot." After these words, there is no right to let him go. Or face in the mud and on guard, or in the next world, even if he rushed to run. Do not forget to just shoot the air.
                    2. Aleksandr1971
                      Aleksandr1971 26 March 2020 07: 29 New
                      +3
                      The law on mass media needs to be amended in terms of all objects with a state secret regime. This applies not only to military units, but also to the organs of the IC, the prosecutor's office, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergencies, the FSB, the Foreign Intelligence Service, the Office of Special Programs, and civilian authorities, where there is state secret.
                  2. not main
                    not main 25 March 2020 22: 26 New
                    -1
                    Quote: dauria
                    The military has UG and KS.

                    And these actions fall under the UVS! And what will you shoot? And under UG and KS they will NEVER climb!
                    1. dauria
                      dauria 25 March 2020 23: 25 New
                      +8
                      And what will you shoot?


                      Look at the UVS, part one, chapter one. Paragraph 13. Weapons are used not only on guard, and not only sentries.
                      Nobody will shoot an activist idiot on the territory of a military unit if he is not very violent. But you can easily bruise and lock in the basement before the arrival of the police without fear of any lawyers. Moreover, the commander must do this. According to the same UVS. The commander has too many responsibilities recorded there, but there are considerable rights. Up to weapons. Personal, or your subordinates.
                      If the activist does not know this, his problems. Ignorance of the laws does not exempt from liability. Previously, there were no such idiots - everyone served in the army, they understood everything perfectly.
                      1. not main
                        not main 26 March 2020 00: 27 New
                        +1
                        Quote: dauria
                        dauria (Alexey)

                        And where did you read it in the UVS? I can tell you about bruises and more ... but learn the Charter!
                      2. Zoldat_A
                        Zoldat_A 26 March 2020 16: 08 New
                        +3
                        Quote: non-primary
                        Quote: dauria
                        dauria (Alexey)

                        And where did you read it in the UVS? I can tell you about bruises and more ... but learn the Charter!

                        ANY military unit is a sensitive facility. And on it, as a rule, there is a checkpoint. No one will let the opposition activist enter the territory. An attempt to break through the force for the guard is equal to allowing any force to be used to kill.

                        And it is written, by the way, not in the UVS. I did not read the new “Charter of the garrison and guard service of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation”, but everything was written clearly in the Soviet

                        162. A distributor has the right to use weapons personally and by the composition of the shift of guards to repel an attack on a sentry, guarded object [...]

                        169. The sentry is an inviolable person. Sentinel immunity is:
                        [...]
                        - in granting him the right to use weapons in the cases specified in this Charter.

                        175. The sentry is obliged to use weapons without warning in the event of a clear attack on him or on an object protected by him.

                        177. [...]
                        If the intruder does not stop and tries to penetrate the guarded object (at the post) or, after such an attempt, takes flight, the sentry fires a warning shot up. If the violator does not comply with this requirement, the sentry shall use weapons against him.


                        In my opinion, for any oppositionist more than enough.

                        Who should learn the charter?
                        I didn’t have much time to learn on the emergency Charters, but in the training sergeants charmed the charters ...
                4. Ka-52
                  Ka-52 26 March 2020 08: 17 New
                  0
                  The military has UG and KS. It is enough for a sensitive object. If Shoigu served in the army, he would know about it

                  Well, if you knew UG and KS yourself, you would also know that the concept of “protected object” includes only a certain territory / water area. That is, you can certainly be detained for conducting video / photography outside this territory, but they will not be able to produce anything in essence. And even more so, no one can present medical institutions or the funeral of dead military personnel for attempts to penetrate.
                5. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 26 March 2020 15: 45 New
                  +3
                  Quote: dauria
                  If his subordinates tremble - these are the problems of the commanders

                  We have a company for a photograph on the background of the arms room lit up the film and promised the next time to break the camera.
                  Then we did not understand what was happening to him? Years passed, I began to think the same.
              2. stalker 75
                stalker 75 26 March 2020 12: 15 New
                0
                start attracting then from the Kremlin! Well, the first king on the chopping block!
          2. Evgeny Ivanov_5
            Evgeny Ivanov_5 25 March 2020 16: 51 New
            -7
            By the way, for that matter, there are a lot of such people on this forum. In general, I was very surprised when such a large amount of frankly palitic materials was posted on a resource devoted to armaments and military topics in general. What for? For what purpose? And for that matter, many of them are of purely oppositional nature with open anti-state propaganda. No need to go far.
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 25 March 2020 17: 06 New
              +8
              Because the war is waged by all available methods

              I put you “unsuccessfully” in the Cold War discipline.
            2. K-612-O
              K-612-O 25 March 2020 19: 16 New
              -8
              Your truth, especially over the past 2-3 years, the volume and focus on the destruction of state institutions has greatly increased. Everything is stronger from the position of emo-communists and the sect of witnesses of developed socialism.
              1. nickname7
                nickname7 26 March 2020 18: 56 New
                0
                the volume and focus on the destruction of state institutions has greatly increased. Everything is stronger from the position of emo-communists and the sect of witnesses of developed socialism.

                Yes, really, is socialism threatening you all?
            3. Revival
              Revival 26 March 2020 17: 52 New
              0
              Anti-state or anti-government?
      2. Evdokim
        Evdokim 25 March 2020 13: 33 New
        +5
        Quote: Shurik70
        Yes, what is this "opposition" /.../ There is no opposition in Russia.

        These are foreign agents. And agents must be dealt with according to their status. For me, right away, but you can certainly fine them like sticky, so that you don’t have the last pants, and go to a resort with a pleasant northern climate, which has philosophical thoughts. hi
      3. Astra wild
        Astra wild 25 March 2020 18: 27 New
        +2
        Shurik colleague, you are absolutely right: OTHERWISE, when dogs look for something to complain about, but they don’t offer anything concrete. They are still like patriotism, and what for if patriotism if they get paid for it?
        There are a lot of similar ones, and even on our site there may be
      4. Igor Aviator
        Igor Aviator 25 March 2020 20: 32 New
        +2
        All you need is to apply special methods to this "riffraff" during detention, as to those who resisted. A couple - the three oppositional faces smeared "in the snot" hunt for provocations, I think, will beat off. And, since the matter concerns secret objects of defense significance, ONLY the military prosecutor's office should deal with this. And that’s it! Step aside, a word across - and a VERY real term. Lawyers (corrupt or not - it doesn’t matter) for a cannon shot are not allowed in view of the secrecy stamp. Two or three similar cases, and the immunity of the Moscow Region from the liberda will be iron!
      5. Peter is not the first
        Peter is not the first 25 March 2020 21: 04 New
        +5
        Now the phrase: non-systemic opposition means - a traitor.
      6. Jager
        Jager 26 March 2020 18: 00 New
        0
        And where does it come from if we sailed for 30 years of managing the same person?
        Not the opposition is absent, but the system itself, under which it can arise. And this is bad because the system begins to believe in its own infallibility. What this led to - read the history book. The country needs a healthy opposition. Not the “fifth column” and not clown puppets fed by the very power, but a normal counterweight.
        As for "photographing the entrances and exits" - show Kuzhugetovich GoogleMaps with the location of military facilities and he will be completely upset.
    2. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 25 March 2020 13: 36 New
      +15
      Well, with cemeteries and wakes, it's hard to do anything. Everything is open and regulated by relatives. But any military and sensitive facilities are prohibited (or restricted) for visiting and filming. In the legislation, everything is probably spelled out. Including military hospitals.
      As far as I know, all information regarding the contingent of admitted and discharged from a military hospital is closed. Here, apparently, there is always a problem with the control of these bans on the ground. And control should be tight, and arrests of violators should be indicative.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 25 March 2020 13: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: x.andvlad
        Well, with cemeteries and wakes, it's hard to do anything.

        Simply, without any regard to the laws, relatives are quite capable of tapping these “videographers” on a pumpkin.
        1. nPuBaTuP
          nPuBaTuP 25 March 2020 14: 28 New
          -3
          relatives are quite capable of tapping these "videographers" on a pumpkin.

          So these "videographers" will first run around complaining to the police .... and if they are sent there they will raise the stench all over the world .... something like that ...
          1. evgen1221
            evgen1221 25 March 2020 14: 50 New
            +2
            Well, let them raise it, if in Russian they cannot read the plate about the prohibition of filming and the consequences in the law. Introduce really draconian fines about such actions, and then it is up to them to disregard and rake for it. Will subside after the first 2-3 cases of punishment.
            1. nPuBaTuP
              nPuBaTuP 25 March 2020 14: 59 New
              +1
              they cannot read the plate on the prohibition of filming and the consequences in the law

              Are we talking about “cemeteries and commemoration” or not?
              1. evgen1221
                evgen1221 25 March 2020 15: 38 New
                0
                No, about the complaints of these operators to the police and sportlotto about having their faces filled, and then they were fined in full for reading the regime and lack of literacy to read the plate on the prohibition of filming.
            2. Fat
              Fat 25 March 2020 15: 15 New
              0
              Quote: evgen1221
              Introduce really draconian fines about such actions, and then it is up to them to disregard and rake for it. Will subside after the first 2-3 cases of punishment.

              The administrative code also has much more “interesting” punishments. Penalties are the mildest punishment, no matter how draconian they are made, "comrades in the fight" will provide assistance.
              1. evgen1221
                evgen1221 25 March 2020 15: 45 New
                +2
                Well, suppose that they took one of these offspring (immediately, later on IP is not the point), What comrades will he support except the oranges in the hospital? Provided that he was punished for this type of business (excuses that the plate weighs at the entrance to the object and I’m running a mile from I’m too lazy to go reading and asking here it doesn’t work, but I’m pushing it away and spying on the zoom can be smacked in. They will complain about Europe, they’ll sing there, when the USSR went to 20x, they got used to it and realized that everything was within rules and for every fool didn’t harness e. In general, they passed in. Here the main desire is to discourage a systematic approach.
      2. K-612-O
        K-612-O 25 March 2020 19: 18 New
        -1
        Alas, it is not spelled out, only in the charter and internal instructions. And the military is often not willing to get under the admin and criminal prosecution by this opposition.
    3. knn54
      knn54 25 March 2020 14: 10 New
      +3
      ... Russian liberalism is not an attack on the existing order of things, but an attack on the very essence of our things, on things themselves, and not on order alone, not on Russian orders, but on Russia itself. My liberal has gone so far as to deny Russia itself, that is, he hates and beats his mother. Every unfortunate and unsuccessful Russian fact excites laughter and almost delight in him. He hates folk customs, Russian history, everything. If there is an excuse for him, it can only be that he does not understand what he is doing, and takes his hatred of Russia for the most fruitful liberalism ...
      There can be no such liberal anywhere who hates his own country. How can we explain all this with us? Thus, as before, the fact that the Russian liberal is for the time being not a Russian liberal; nothing more, in my opinion.
      Since the time of F.M. Dostoevsky, one thing has changed, now they are also the opposition. Well, first of all, grant-eaters.
      1. Procyon lotor
        Procyon lotor 26 March 2020 10: 55 New
        0
        Indeed, liberalism is evil, and Russian liberalism is generally from the devil. In this regard, I think that all liberal reforms should be reviewed, starting from the abolition of serfdom in 1861. The deep Russian people do not need liberalism and I hope that the amendments to the constitution create the prerequisites for this.
        1. nickname7
          nickname7 26 March 2020 19: 12 New
          0
          it is necessary to review all liberal reforms, starting from the abolition of serfdom in 1861.
          Do not distort, liberalism is a struggle for freedom, but liberalism does not mean betrayal, switching to the side of third countries. The person who opened the gates of the medieval city during the war and surrendered the city to the enemy is unacceptable to society. Society has the right to fight against such individuals.
          1. Procyon lotor
            Procyon lotor 27 March 2020 09: 38 New
            0
            This is how to say it. In this forum, liberals are primarily a non-systemic opposition, a fifth column or State Department agents in general.
    4. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 26 March 2020 10: 32 New
      0
      administrative liability is easily paid by fines. and they’ll print money ... A bulk example.
    5. nickname7
      nickname7 26 March 2020 18: 54 New
      0
      How to deal with the fifth column?
      Everything has already been invented before us, you can not reinvent the wheel, but turn to the appropriate legislation of the West, everything is very clearly thought out there.
  2. seti
    seti 25 March 2020 13: 14 New
    +27
    Quote: cniza
    One can imagine what responsibility they would be brought to in Western countries.


    I understand everything, but maybe it's time to stop talking.

    If you stop talking and send goods with the "best" people to Kolyma, can you imagine what a howl will rise. And not only in the Western press but also ours. Even here on the site. Although I am only for.
    1. cniza
      cniza 25 March 2020 13: 18 New
      +14
      So what ? so let them howl for health, howl and cease.
    2. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 25 March 2020 13: 18 New
      +7
      Good news from Shoigu. Upgrade for serial production of Sarmat ICBMs completed.
      “On experimental combat duty there is a high-precision hypersonic missile system“ Dagger ”. Flight design tests of the Zircon rocket are being conducted. Since last year, the first Vanguard missile regiment and the Peresvet laser systems have taken up combat duty. The modernization for serial production of the Sarmat intercontinental missile system has been completed, ”Shoigu said.

      https://m.tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/20203251113-LTCkS.html
    3. Honest Citizen
      Honest Citizen 25 March 2020 13: 20 New
      +12
      Opposition opposition is strife. If such as Novodvorskaya, Alekseeva (both are already responsible for their affairs before the Lord), Borova, Gozman - this is one side of the matter. Here and espionage would not be attributed sour.
      And if the opposition in the form of Platoshkin - by the way, it does not go anywhere, then this is a completely different opposition.
      The former want to ruin the country, the latter want to strengthen it.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 25 March 2020 15: 30 New
        +11
        Quote: Honest Citizen
        Honest Citizen (Sergey)

        And what do you think, the summer residence of the Generalissimo Shaigu of the great commander is a secret object?
        1. Honest Citizen
          Honest Citizen 25 March 2020 15: 37 New
          -1
          Quote: Malyuta
          And what do you think, the summer residence of the Generalissimo Shaigu of the great commander is a secret object?

          To be honest, I will say this: the fact that the object is closed is understandable, but at the expense of secrecy, I doubt it.
      2. Revival
        Revival 26 March 2020 17: 55 New
        0
        There is an opinion that such should be noted and awarded, for example, Alekseev
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 25 March 2020 13: 29 New
      +16
      Quote: seti
      If you stop talking and send goods with the "best" people to Kolyma, can you imagine what a howl will rise.

      And all slander Comrade Stalin. And he knew what and how to do with these throats.
      1. seti
        seti 25 March 2020 13: 35 New
        -1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And all slander Comrade Stalin. And he knew what and how to do with these throats.

        Well, those times probably shouldn't be touched anymore - times have changed. And then, after all, a certain percentage of those who were sent there obviously did not suffer. But some valuable experience of those years would not hurt to take note.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 25 March 2020 14: 24 New
          +1
          Quote: seti
          Well, those times probably shouldn't be touched anymore - times have changed.

          Times have changed, but spies, the fifth column, collaborators have not changed
          , and have not disappeared, they live among us.
      2. for
        for 25 March 2020 16: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And he knew what and how to do with these throats.

        Only he, by comparison with the current authorities, was not a gorlopan.
    5. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 25 March 2020 14: 00 New
      -3
      Seti. Why then immediately to Kolyma. I think closer places for them will be found. “Better people,” for example, suffer from the lack of warm toilets in schools, improper collection of garbage, and turmoil in hospitals. Let correct. They build warm toilets, and become hospital attendants on the conveyor of garbage factories. As for the howl, I’m sure that a reboot will happen very soon. It will be amusing to observe the intrigues of Messrs. Venediktov and Navalny for the right to issue a "combat leaflet" in the Putin's re-education camp. It has already been so. And it's time to put the Western partners in place. Small waving with a nuclear baton discipline personnel.
      1. seti
        seti 25 March 2020 14: 04 New
        -1
        That's right - “to regret means not to regret" - so said the unforgettable General Panfilov.
    6. Piramidon
      Piramidon 25 March 2020 14: 04 New
      -3
      Quote: seti
      If they stop talking and send goods with the "best" people to Kolyma

      That would be the best option. But, unfortunately, you are right, it will be a bargaining chip, in a deck of all kinds of Russophobes. hi
    7. Looking for
      Looking for 25 March 2020 15: 42 New
      +1
      The one who raises the howl. -Will go the second commodity. There will be no more howling, believe me.
    8. nickname7
      nickname7 26 March 2020 19: 23 New
      0
      If you stop talking and send goods with the "best" people to Kolyma, can you imagine what a howl will rise.

      This can be done, but not immediately, but gradually political need is needed, first you need the odious type of rector Hasanov, dismiss from all posts of the civil service, compromise some, and conduct propaganda in society.

      but there is a problem



  3. rocket757
    rocket757 25 March 2020 13: 20 New
    +14
    As a sergeant / foreman liked to talk in the SA ... he has HUNDRED ways to “teach” a negligent soldier and all according to the CHARTER !!!
    Catch and ... by law, everyone who deserves what.
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 25 March 2020 15: 39 New
      +2
      The most common way. "Combat exercises discipline personnel."
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 25 March 2020 17: 13 New
        +1
        The drill is of course, but there are nuances ....
        And so a normal foreman will always have something to dig out / dig, and for very smart and iron there is one that needs to be taken out into the sun, ventilated, and then brought back.
  4. Svarog
    Svarog 25 March 2020 13: 30 New
    +16
    Shoigu spoke about the attempts of the Russian opposition to infiltrate military facilities

    Those who infiltrate military installations are saboteurs, not the opposition .. winked
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 25 March 2020 13: 37 New
      +18
      Yes, somehow everything is blurry and without specifics, the escalation of some horrors. Where who, when trying to penetrate, where were the sentries. Why the charter of the guard service was not respected. A shot up and then fire to kill. And let them resent further. And it turns out not MO but some offended boy.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 25 March 2020 13: 45 New
        +10
        Quote: YOUR
        forcing some kind of horror

        Yes, it was the escalation of horrors .. before voting on the Constitution, the opposition apparently decided to scare .. Soon there will be no freedom of speech or publicity .. etc. .. there will be a dictatorship of the capitalists .. but on the other, we are a step away from the feudal system ..
        1. YOUR
          YOUR 25 March 2020 13: 47 New
          +5
          Similar thoughts. See what happens if these .....
          Oh come on. We will not die alive.
        2. Slavs
          Slavs 25 March 2020 14: 04 New
          +5
          Quote: Svarog
          we are one step away from the feudal system ..

          Legally - yes, but in fact on the ground - already.
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 25 March 2020 14: 12 New
          -4
          And perfectly all jaundice and bloggers - dancers from the fly of an elephant shut up at last. The Internet will be cleaner.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 25 March 2020 14: 21 New
            +4
            Quote: Vadim237

            And perfectly all jaundice and bloggers - dancers from the fly of an elephant shut up at last. The Internet will be cleaner.

            When they really start to shut up .. trust me and shut up .. Well, unless of course you are not their hired worker .. Did you kind of write that you have a business? So, if there is a dictatorship, then many will fall under this wave .. Business will begin to be squeezed, especially in times of crisis ..
            When the dictatorship of the proletariat, it’s right because the proletariat is the majority, and when the dictatorship of bureaucratic capitalism .. it’s sad, because the consequences are unpredictable ..
        4. Fat
          Fat 25 March 2020 15: 35 New
          -1
          Quote: Svarog
          Soon there will be neither freedom of speech, nor publicity .. etc. .. there will be a dictatorship of the capitalists .. but on the other, we are a step away from the feudal system ..

          Yes, yes, two steps from the slave, three from the primitive communal ...)))
          And no capitalists with dictates ...
      2. reservist
        reservist 25 March 2020 15: 08 New
        +2
        Quote: YOUR
        Why the charter of the guard service was not respected. A shot up and then fire to kill.

        Has the guard charter changed?
        first - "Wait, who's going !!! ???"
        1. YOUR
          YOUR 25 March 2020 16: 07 New
          +3
          Oh! What's the point?
          I remember the case was in those ancient times when the grass is greener and the sparrows chirped louder. SAM, as it were, we have a constant combat duty. In short, not far from the city, they stood 5 km, as the drunkard brought history back there, because he died without regaining consciousness. I managed to rush into the position at night. He climbed through the thorn and to the sentry. It is quite possible that he was just asking for the road, only he got the line in his stomach. The guy was first in the jail, during the investigation, then on vacation and was not seen again. transferred to another part.
          Something pulled on the memories. Another case, but you can’t imagine this from the category on purpose. Hourly post for the protection of warehouses, including the stock of ammunition and weapons. Night, dark, wind, noise suddenly from around the corner the head appeared. So that no one speaks and the nerves are still at the limit. Well, everything is as it should be, all fishing has been said, a shot was fired into the air, but this bastard will still peek out from around the corner or hide and sounds strange. Apparently, the automatic machine set on a single fire. Well, on this reptile. the whole store. It turned out that some kind of round garbage came off the warehouse wall, in the dark did not understand how someone’s head. The guy got scared, then he was scared, but post the whole store in this round. The guy was lucky and took a picture in front of the Banner and went on vacation.
          In short, the charter does not specify at what speed to speak and shoot
          1. reservist
            reservist 25 March 2020 16: 25 New
            +1
            Well, we live already at a time when everyone has a mobile with a camera ...
            in the last century, when I was on an “excursion” (summer training camp) in the army, when we were on guard, our captain comes with a guard at night personally, checks the post and reports that in the next part the soldier either went AWOL or completely "yanked" ... if the second, then maybe after a weapon to the "post" look ... in the morning I hear that someone is walking in the fog, it turned out that the soldier was going to feed the pigs, but the guy immediately stopped and called, well and if I immediately foolishly started firing in the fog, and even then I suddenly got ...
            1. YOUR
              YOUR 26 March 2020 04: 03 New
              +1
              Some nonsense in the pigsty goes through the post. Violation of the charter of the guard service.
              1. reservist
                reservist 26 March 2020 10: 25 New
                0
                not through the post, but along the road next to the post fence
                at night in the fog it’s completely not clear whether it’s stomping past, or climbing into a protected area ...
      3. www3
        www3 25 March 2020 19: 16 New
        +2
        nothing is new under the moon))
        damn .. well, what is the opposition doing there?
        this nonsense begins to remind how once the chairman of the Belarusian KGB on TV stated that they neutralized the opposition, who, with the help of dead rats, wanted to poison the water supply before the elections))
  5. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 25 March 2020 13: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: cniza
    I understand everything, but maybe it's time to stop talking.

    Right. As they say, “If there was a man, we’ll find an article”.
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 26 March 2020 04: 28 New
      +3
      First you need to find an article. And then oh, well ... they transferred everything to offshore, oh, how I don’t like that Sechin receives 3 million a day. What has been done apart from the words?
      With all my rejection of the United States, their laws are very tough and necessary for the country. Example: the situation with Tinkov. He was a US citizen, pay taxes, renounced citizenship, pay for profits. Wherever a US citizen earns pay in the treasury of the country. Progressive income tax and introduced it by the very moneybags who are in Congress.
      And we have for complete withdrawal of money abroad. So they would shake the moneybags as articles are looking for those who rush with plastic glasses. And the words about progressive income tax are perceived as treason.
  6. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 25 March 2020 13: 32 New
    +4
    Cniza, you can more precisely what you understand and with whom it is time to stop talking.
    1. Slavs
      Slavs 25 March 2020 14: 06 New
      -1
      Quote: Chaldon48
      with whom it is time to stop talking.

      With the political opposition sticking their nose at military installations.
  7. Thrifty
    Thrifty 25 March 2020 13: 34 New
    0
    Often you need to apply the article "for espionage", and plant to the maximum, without amnesty! Heel of such processes to conduct live. And, the number of under-marks will decrease many times. You can give a command on the objects, on such creatures that climb where you can’t work with weapons exclusively to defeat!
  8. venik
    venik 25 March 2020 13: 34 New
    +8
    Quote: cniza
    I understand everything, but maybe it's time to stop talking.

    =======
    good drinks Exactly! In the USA, the activities of non-profit public organizations financed from abroad are prohibited! Maybe it's time for us to "join" to "democratic values"most"a democratic"countries ??? It seems to me personally: It’s time! They have ripened! You can even go further" on the path of democracy ": Liberast-dermocrats who" poke their nose "wherever they should go - to the" training camp "for 2 months, or to the aria - 1 year! (And who has “flat feet” - at the construction battalion! He quickly heals from “flat feet”!).
    1. cniza
      cniza 25 March 2020 13: 48 New
      +3
      We just need to comply with existing laws.
    2. Gennady Korsunov
      Gennady Korsunov 25 March 2020 13: 58 New
      +6
      And what do you say for those who open a monument to Solzhenitsyn or a manenheim board, who are they ??
  9. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 25 March 2020 14: 18 New
    +6
    Quote: cniza
    One can imagine what responsibility they would be brought to in Western countries.
    I understand everything, but maybe it's time to stop talking.

    hi I even refuse to understand when photos of my classmates pop up on the internet: it's time to peel already and so that there is no doubt why
  10. 4ekist
    4ekist 25 March 2020 14: 47 New
    +1
    There is criminal liability for unlawful entry into a protected object (closed territory), it makes sense to tighten it. He illegally penetrated and sat down for seven years.
    And if spying is a spot.
  11. Bykov.
    Bykov. 25 March 2020 15: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: cniza
    One can imagine what responsibility they would be brought to in Western countries.


    I understand everything, but maybe it's time to stop talking.

    No, they’re just rushing into the army. We must catch them, shave and in the barracks.
  12. NEXUS
    NEXUS 25 March 2020 17: 12 New
    +1
    One can imagine what responsibility they would be brought to in Western countries.

    So long ago it is necessary to take these muskrats for testicles and send them to the Tundra, for about 150 years, to remove snow, all.
  13. Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 25 March 2020 18: 52 New
    +3
    I understand everything, but maybe it's time to stop talking.


    The charter of the garrison and guard duty.
    Do you want to penetrate? For God's sake.

    Sentry for the successful fulfillment of the duties of an extraordinary vacation at home!
    Wishing to eat? Welcome.
    That’s the whole conversation.
  14. iouris
    iouris 26 March 2020 11: 25 New
    0
    Quote: cniza
    it's time to stop talking

    If the opposition has infiltrated the Moscow Region, then it's time.
  15. smart ass
    smart ass 26 March 2020 12: 48 New
    0
    I agree with you completely, there is national security and it is a priority
  16. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 26 March 2020 15: 37 New
    0
    Quote: cniza
    I understand everything, but maybe it's time to stop talking.

    You can stop lassing ... Only our opposition for the West is not "ideological brothers", as the opposition thinks of itself, but "ideological meat." The more Gozmans they put in us and the Amnuel are locked up in a psychiatric hospital, the better for the West.
    I already hear Western cries about Russian "prisoners of conscience" and "punitive psychiatry."

    It is possible and necessary to fight these "opposition activists". But Western clickers also cannot play into the hands of. You need to work quietly, quietly and efficiently - the KGB of the USSR skillfully. Not an indicative process with media coverage and a subsequent high in the West, but a face-to-face emotional conversation with “an offer that you cannot refuse” (c). I know one father’s friend, retired FSB lieutenant colonel - he told me something. This way works! And, by the way, our Western "partners" have succeeded in this.
    1. iouris
      iouris 26 March 2020 23: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      The more Gozmans they put in us and the Amnuel are locked up in a psychiatric hospital, the better for the West.

      When trying to penetrate the objects of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the sentry, after hearing a guard dog barking, should shout: “Wait who's coming!” .... And so on, I will not explain the known algorithm. If the "Charter of the guard service" does not work, then the opposition will soon take the post of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. What Mr. Shoigu will do after this, this is not known to science. Perhaps a construction business.
  17. Shaska
    Shaska 26 March 2020 16: 58 New
    0
    One can imagine what responsibility they would be brought to in Western countries ...


    Yes, they would have killed ... Right on the spot.
    And then they figured out .....
  • Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 25 March 2020 13: 10 New
    +15
    And what's the problem ? Judge them under the article "Espionage in favor of foreign states", and that’s all.
    1. akshor
      akshor 25 March 2020 16: 34 New
      +1
      The problem is that you need to find these opposition and prove their guilt. But with Zolotov crap came out, now it’s easier to fight an invisible enemy
      1. Maalkavianin
        Maalkavianin 25 March 2020 16: 58 New
        0
        This is not a problem. It’s just that we have an opposition and other pro-Westerners — untouchables. As you look, how the police carry them at rallies ... Like brides in the registry office, I love it.
        1. akshor
          akshor 25 March 2020 17: 01 New
          +1
          So let them publish, since it’s not a problem. Well, assets, and so on, where is the power and close ones? In the West. Who needs to risk their new homeland? So that in the new house they will be sanctioned? Deripaska still smoothes out his guilt before the West. At least someone, by the way, has real estate from the authorities or close in China?
        2. akshor
          akshor 25 March 2020 17: 17 New
          +2
          that is, the opposition is pro-Western with us. and the fact that officials are rampant with views of citizenship and owners of property and accounts in the West are among us pro-Russians and statesmen. Isn't it funny for you yourself? But lackeys like Solovyov are terribly tormented every time in Italy, comes to rot to admire, right? How cool he is able to wet the liberals and pro-Westerners, being in Italy. There are no beautiful places in the world except the West where you can enjoy life, right? It's funny, the more a patriot from the government beats himself in the chest, the more real estate, etc., he has in the West))) And the children are tormented by their own France and London. And they miss their birch trees and rush to Russia - mother
        3. akshor
          akshor 25 March 2020 17: 39 New
          0
          To judge, judges must have authority. I think so. And when judges are pro-Western lackeys, and when other pro-Western judges are judged ... it only causes laughter and distrust of the judges. And so, when an officer (as he calls himself, disgracing the honor of Russian officers) Zolotov, was frightened of a debate with pro-Western Navalny on the air to hide the scale of his love for his homeland, all this creates more questions for the authorities. What is officer Zolotov hiding? But does officer Zolotov defend his homeland? And is Homeland still with Officer Zolotov?
    2. smart ass
      smart ass 26 March 2020 12: 49 New
      0
      This is a very difficult article.
  • sledak
    sledak 25 March 2020 13: 10 New
    +8
    It is high time!!! And the term for shooting is real at least 5 years!
  • Victor_B
    Victor_B 25 March 2020 13: 13 New
    +13
    Still, you need to do something with all sorts of diggers that climb on existing objects.
    This, in most cases, has nothing to do with the liberd, but their materials are also used by enemies.
    In fact, it’s very interesting to watch such videos, but the idea immediately arises - what the hell is the FSB not catching mice?
    A dozen or two of such extremals will drop into the zone, and they will shoot a couple of VOKhR and immediately the fashion will deflate.
  • Last centurion
    Last centurion 25 March 2020 13: 18 New
    +8
    and what is the problem of changing legislation and sending these energetic comrades to use energy for peaceful purposes felling or clearing snow in the north
  • Azazelo
    Azazelo 25 March 2020 13: 18 New
    +4
    Give an order to the sentries to shoot to kill immediately, without warning or anything else ...
    1. venik
      venik 25 March 2020 15: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Azazelo
      Give an order to the sentries to shoot to kill immediately, without warning or anything else ...

      ========
      Excessively radical .... But och-h-chen EFFECTIVELY !!! drinks
  • rocket757
    rocket757 25 March 2020 13: 18 New
    +7
    One can imagine what responsibility they would be brought to in Western countries.

    It’s not necessary to present; To catch and plant, everything is strictly according to the law.
    1. cniza
      cniza 25 March 2020 13: 24 New
      +5
      And do not pay attention to howl ... yes good
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 25 March 2020 13: 30 New
        +2
        It would be nice to hear screams turning into .... oh, why the public rods were canceled! This was a HEALTHY procedure that was very beneficial to many! He airs the brains and stacks as it should, at a time!
        And since for many people the main enemy, it’s just a straightened brain, this would simplify their further existence once and for all.
        In short, health for!
        1. cniza
          cniza 25 March 2020 13: 43 New
          0
          It is possible to create private structures like PMCs and go on - dreams ...
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 25 March 2020 13: 22 New
    0
    They climb into the hospitals where our wounded lie, in cemeteries, in commemoration, in the families of our dead children. They remove the entrances and exits from our closed facilities and upload them to the Internet. One can imagine what responsibility they would be brought to in Western countries.
    It was against such persons that it was necessary to amend the Constitution.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 25 March 2020 14: 10 New
      +4
      Quote: tihonmarine
      They climb into the hospitals where our wounded lie, in cemeteries, in commemoration, in the families of our dead children. They remove the entrances and exits from our closed facilities and upload them to the Internet. One can imagine what responsibility they would be brought to in Western countries.
      It was against such persons that it was necessary to amend the Constitution.

      Cool joke .. what amendments there, the criminal code, and the rule of the road there too ..
  • Andrey Mikhaylov
    Andrey Mikhaylov 25 March 2020 13: 22 New
    +1
    It’s necessary to plant in such a way that another person doesn’t even have a thought. This is not freedom of speech, this is already a mess.
  • Sirocco
    Sirocco 25 March 2020 13: 23 New
    +13
    Is there really any change in the charter of the guard and garrison service? If not, then the sentry will help. During the years of service in the SA, local residents decided to hook themselves up at one of the chemical service depots, one remained hanging on the fence, the second hid behind boxes. And here the minister himself carries water in the sieve, I don’t understand.
    1. Fat
      Fat 25 March 2020 16: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: Sirocco
      here the minister himself carries water in the sieve, I don’t understand.

      The minister asks the senators for permission to shoot particularly arrogant "journalists."
      Reasonable forethought.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 25 March 2020 13: 24 New
    +2
    So take and attract ..... responsibility should be one for all. Start with Comrade Serdyukov .....
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 25 March 2020 13: 28 New
    +3
    A powerful army passes in front of dritschami opposition. I am sure that for any case, you can pull up existing laws and punish violators. Moreover, the authorities have experience in punishing those who are objectionable.
  • Tuzik
    Tuzik 25 March 2020 13: 30 New
    +2
    and urged senators to pay attention to this issue.

    This word hurts the eye, what could not be called differently?
  • Alevil
    Alevil 25 March 2020 13: 32 New
    +2
    Why are these “activists" still alive?
  • shubin
    shubin 25 March 2020 13: 32 New
    +4
    And what, the charter of the guard service was canceled? Everything is clearly spelled out there.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 25 March 2020 13: 46 New
      0
      Quote: shubin
      And what, the charter of the guard service was canceled? Everything is clearly spelled out there.

      It seems that they seized inhumane items. fool It's a pity. angry
      1. Fat
        Fat 25 March 2020 16: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Quote: shubin
        And what, the charter of the guard service was canceled? Everything is clearly spelled out there.

        It seems that they seized inhumane items. fool It's a pity. angry

        What to regret? Read and decide, it seems not like ...
        http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_72806/cd59566ddef0b9143c9f26cb9433bd10d749d552/
  • Karaul14
    Karaul14 25 March 2020 13: 34 New
    -8
    Apparently, the Kremlin decided that even such a tame opposition is a threat, therefore, all those who disagree will now be declared terrorists. The old practice of totalitarian regimes, North Korea can share experience, they succeeded in this.
  • cniza
    cniza 25 March 2020 13: 36 New
    +1
    This is from another source on the same topic:

    According to Shoigu, it is necessary to adjust the law on the media so that such ill-wishers could not penetrate the army units and other objects of our armed forces.


    And what existing laws are missing?
  • Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 25 March 2020 13: 44 New
    +5
    Shoigu spoke about the attempts of the Russian opposition to infiltrate military facilities ...
    ... The Minister of Defense drew attention to the fact that Russian legislation in this area is not regulated, which does not allow criminal prosecution of these "activists", and urged senators to pay attention to this issue.
    I misunderstood something
    "The charter of the garrison and guard services of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation" (approved by Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of December 14.12.1993, 2140 N 30.06.2002) (as amended on June XNUMX, XNUMX)

    190. The sentry is obliged to use weapons without warning in the event of a clear attack on him or on the object protected by him.

    191. All persons approaching the post or the forbidden border, except for the head of the guard, the assistant to the chief of the guard, his guard and those accompanied by them, the sentry stops with the cry “Stop, back” or “Stop, go around to the right (left)”.

    In case of non-compliance by those approaching the post or the forbidden border of this requirement, the sentry warns the offender with a cry of “Stop, I will shoot” and immediately calls the guard or the guard. If the intruder continues to approach the post or the forbidden border, the sentry sends the cartridge to the chamber and produces a warning shot up. If the violator fails to comply with this requirement and attempts to get into the post (cross the forbidden border) or takes flight after such an attempt, the sentry uses weapons against him.
    what other laws are needed? !!! belay
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 25 March 2020 14: 18 New
      +5
      Quote: Barmaleyka
      what other laws are needed? !!!

      You must first serve in the army urgently, study the duties of a soldier, guard, sentry, etc., and only then you can proceed with the duties of the Ministry of Defense ... lol
  • Maks-80
    Maks-80 25 March 2020 13: 44 New
    +8
    What nonsense. Under the law, a guard can calmly shoot an attempt to illegally enter the territory of a military facility
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 25 March 2020 14: 19 New
      +4
      Quote: Maks-80
      By law guard HOURLY!!! can calmly shoot trying to illegally enter the territory of a military facility
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 25 March 2020 13: 45 New
    +1
    the Russian "pro-Western" opposition to infiltrate Russian military facilities,
    Attempts are suppressed by fire from service weapons. request
    It does not allow criminal prosecution of these “activists”, and called on senators to pay attention to this issue.
    It is possible in Zindan, for six months. Enlightenment of the brain and the opening of 3 eyes is provided. angry
  • Andrey.AN
    Andrey.AN 25 March 2020 13: 46 New
    +3
    Shaigu confused at the root. Opposition is opposition, foreign agents are foreign agents. Opposition creates balance, compromise, foreign agents destroy balance.
  • Barmal
    Barmal 25 March 2020 13: 58 New
    0
    Judge and imprison. Brand with indelible paint "BOP" and cut under the half box.
  • ZVS
    ZVS 25 March 2020 13: 59 New
    0
    For such things, it's time to go to jail. Raise the article "for sabotage in the interests of foreign states and send to Vorkuta to get a coal and restore the city.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 25 March 2020 14: 01 New
    -1
    For five on their brother they hang for a start, others will be discouraged. And the bunks, they just have for thought.
  • Operator
    Operator 25 March 2020 14: 01 New
    -1
    In addition to improving Russian legislation in accordance with international practice, it is necessary to separate flies from cutlets: unnamed "activists" are either foreign agents (under current Russian legislation) or domestic opposition members (if they exist in nature).

    In the first case, the lawyers of the Ministry of Defense clearly slap their ears.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 25 March 2020 14: 15 New
    -2
    One can imagine what responsibility they would be brought to in Western countries, said Shoigu.

    Who's stopping you? Attract! Send all the press secretaries and political officers to this, let them work out the bread.
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  • Romario_Argo
    Romario_Argo 25 March 2020 14: 21 New
    0
    our pro-Western opposition - soon we will begin to burn with hot iron am
  • Gennady Korsunov
    Gennady Korsunov 25 March 2020 14: 21 New
    0
    No doubt about the objects! Nobody has canceled the charter of the guard service .. But here about the wounded and dead guys, one can argue. In peacetime, the wounded and the dead? So, if it weren’t for these activists, we didn’t even know that there were dead and wounded .. Or Kisilev and Solovyov would tell us on TV ..
  • ufpb
    ufpb 25 March 2020 14: 23 New
    +4
    Wait a minute. I will shoot. A shot in the air. Shoot to kill. - What else is needed?
  • Million
    Million 25 March 2020 14: 30 New
    -1
    Is it Zhirinovsky with Zyuganov or something ???? Here are the scoundrels!)
  • Roman12345678
    Roman12345678 25 March 2020 14: 40 New
    -2
    Basically, Shoigu noted, this is done by the hands of the Russian opposition, which exists with Western funds.

    Shoigu himself at whose expense exists ??
    And how should it be better or worse for the Russian layman ??
  • Shadow041
    Shadow041 25 March 2020 14: 46 New
    +1
    There are laws in the Russian Federation, it’s just that they are afraid to use them in the Kremlin against Chubais, or they simply don’t want to, making empty statements to the public. It’s enough to recall how espionage of a military unit in the Russian Federation living in the Russian Federation got away with phone reports on the movement of officers through the CCP to the Ukrainian Embassy! But this is espionage, Mr. Shoigu and criminal punishment in the Russian Federation for him is completely provided for himself !!!!
  • Free wind
    Free wind 25 March 2020 14: 54 New
    -4
    A closed object is an abandoned object, and what’s wrong with it is that you can walk around and take pictures of the entrances and exits. And here that facts about someone's dachas periodically pop up. and becomes public. then very many do not like it. Moscow Oblast is telling everything about weapons; no intelligence is needed. Turn on the star, there everyone tells and shows. About relatives and the wounded, if asked, they ask permission, and even more so for uploading to the Internet, if they are against, they can sue, but this has never happened. And as you can get into the hospital, the hospital then strictly according to the hours of visits are possible. And if the wounded is heavy, then he is in intensive care, there is generally no entry. So there is a lot of untruth in all this. Well, you can watch sensitive objects on the Internet as much as you like, in satellite photographs, in very good quality, even in America, even in Russia. On some sites, photos are updated every hour.
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 25 March 2020 15: 00 New
    +2
    It's cool that the opposition can be called anyone ....
    Videos, charts, and pictures surfaced that, for example, Goblin / Puchkov is also funded by the State Department and Khodorkovsky ...
    And the GDP is not only Peskov, but also called himself a liberal and a democrat ....

    That is, without specifics, you can call anyone .... especially before the vote ...
  • Roman12345678
    Roman12345678 25 March 2020 15: 18 New
    -7
    They climb into the hospitals where our wounded lie, in cemeteries, in commemoration, in the families of our dead children.

    How to "climb" ?? Walking around the cemetery ?? Looking for classified corpses ?? Trying to interview relatives ?? So all journalists are doing this ..

    They remove the entrances and exits from our closed facilities and upload them to the Internet.

    What kind of closed objects are these ??
    And if I can take a picture of the Kremlin, and the windows where (approximately) Putin is sitting, are I a spy, an oppositionist, or a Western agent ??
    Where it is impossible to take off, there must be security .. Where protection does not prohibit taking off - it is allowed ..
    1. shuv
      shuv 25 March 2020 15: 33 New
      +2
      Do not exaggerate, but you perfectly understood what it was about ...
      1. Roman12345678
        Roman12345678 25 March 2020 15: 44 New
        -5
        I understand .. Because I asked the appropriate questions ..
  • shuv
    shuv 25 March 2020 15: 31 New
    +1
    The opposition is against the government, but for the homeland, for its development, and this is not the opposition, but a clear enemy !!!
  • Khoja Nasredin
    Khoja Nasredin 25 March 2020 15: 32 New
    -5
    After the liquidation of liberals, Jews, dissenters, and other undesirable elements, a golden age will come in Russia. Everyone will live happily and richly for up to 100 years. A salary of one million rubles will be minimal. Even women will give for free.
  • Vyacheslav34
    Vyacheslav34 25 March 2020 15: 41 New
    +2
    Sergei Kozhugetovich there is a charter of guard duty for such people there everything is settled clearly and point by point. A shot in the air and then to kill a simple and uncomplicated pair of such cases and all of them will no longer be at all, they won’t even try, they won’t give out the bodies and hang them on the fence ... and they will definitely not be anymore only at a distance of 30 meters 50 need to put up posters sentry shoots to kill without warning ... In the days of the USSR we had and there were no violations ... no, but rarely and reluctantly.
  • mark1
    mark1 25 March 2020 16: 29 New
    +1
    Russian legislation in this area is not regulated

    How not adjusted? And the charter of the guard service?
    -Stop! Who goes!
    -Stop! I will shoot!
    - I stand !!!
    -I’m shooting ...
  • Nikolay Savarovsky
    Nikolay Savarovsky 25 March 2020 16: 30 New
    +1
    Has Shaigu completely lost faith in God? He was diligently baptized at the parade, he saw it. Why should he apply to the Federation Council? There are few priests in the army? No one to pray? The second option is to fight with the financiers of the opposition on their territory if they are foreigners, as with the Ishilovites in Syria. There is experience. And even less capital needs to be exported to the ruling class abroad, less will be returned to finance the opposition.
  • akshor
    akshor 25 March 2020 16: 32 New
    +1
    Do you have the names of this opposition? And it smacks of balabolism
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 25 March 2020 17: 10 New
    -1
    Shooting to defeat, absolutely nits in.agents state .. depovskie at hand.
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 25 March 2020 17: 38 New
    0
    As old as the world is the slogan of the opposition: "the worse, the better."
  • AB
    AB 25 March 2020 17: 56 New
    +1
    It does not allow criminal prosecution of these “activists”, and called on senators to pay attention to this issue.

    Damn, and stupidly rewrite the responsibility for Gostaina from the Soviet code, faith does not allow, or how do they go to foreign embassies in the 90s and continue to do so? It must therefore be taken no action.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 25 March 2020 18: 16 New
    +1
    I think it is useless to hold them accountable. These are carcasses with a lack of social responsibility, so the only right medical decision could be the elimination of the "carriers of the infection." Preferably public.
  • yfast
    yfast 25 March 2020 18: 42 New
    0
    We have no opposition, of course. But I want to hide the losses. And not really give.
  • Round Smesharik
    Round Smesharik 25 March 2020 19: 00 New
    -2
    The Minister of Defense drew attention to the fact that Russian legislation in this area is not regulated, which does not allow criminal prosecution of these "activists", and urged senators to pay attention to this issue.

    They’ll shoot two and three and everyone will calm down, and they began to become impudent hysterically (the goants gave them a couple of lards to the fight against Russia the USA allocated that year)))
    I remember somewhere in Primorye (in the 2000s) they were chasing an officer (he fled to his unit))) he sent them insolents, but they did not know the password .. They shot everyone (it turned out that local brothers were wanted))))
    Soldier, everything according to the Charter acted .. soldier
  • megadeth
    megadeth 25 March 2020 19: 34 New
    +1
    Well, take and plant ... how much you can endure these traitors.
  • Kunica
    Kunica 25 March 2020 19: 41 New
    +1
    Poor Seryoga. How hard is it with this opposition. It’s good that there is VO. Here they will always be supported and branded. Righteous anger gushes out!