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A video of testing a new Ukrainian armored personnel carrier appeared on the web

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A video of testing a new Ukrainian armored personnel carrier appeared on the web

A test video of the latest Ukrainian Ataman 6X6 armored personnel carrier developed by the private Ukrainian company Praktika appeared on the Web. The video on its YouTube channel was hosted by Defense Express.


As explained in the description of the video, a feature of the new armored personnel carrier is the front engine with the landing in the rear. In addition, it is alleged that the armored personnel carrier received full-fledged mine protection created by the NATO standard STANAG 4569, and for the manufacture of an armored personnel carrier uses the armor of NATO member countries and the EU.

The possible deployment of the new Ataman 6X6 armored personnel carrier to the Ukrainian marine corps was announced last April during a meeting at the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.


At the same time, preliminary TTX armored personnel carriers were announced. It was proposed that in the variant for the Marine Corps, the Ataman BMB would have a gross mass of 23500 ks with a payload of at least 5500 kg. The crew of the combat vehicle is 3-4 people, while 6 marines in full combat gear should be transported in the landing squad. It is planned to install a Deutz 410kW / 558 hp diesel engine. with an automatic transmission. Wheel formula 6X6.

Frontal reservation protects against 12,7-mm caliber, side projections of PZSA-5 (protection against a 7,62 mm bullet of a 57-BZ-231s submachine gun cartridge with a BZ bullet (AKM submachine gun) from a distance of 10 m). Additional reservation is provided.

Armored car is supposed to equip the weapon station BM-3M "Sturm" (30-mm automatic gun ZTM-1 with ammunition 200 shells paired 7,62-mm machine gun CT-7,62 with ammunition 2000 cartridges, 30-mm automatic grenade launcher KBA-117, ATGM "Barrier "with four missiles).
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  1. vvvjak
    vvvjak 24 March 2020 16: 31 New
    17
    Did the corporate identity of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex (cracks in the armor) remain?
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    2. Ravil_Asnafovich
      Ravil_Asnafovich 24 March 2020 16: 40 New
      13
      laughing it’s not a crack, it’s Ukrainian air conditioning.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 17: 04 New
        +5
        Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
        laughing it’s not a crack, it’s Ukrainian air conditioning.

        The review, again, is improving ...
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 24 March 2020 19: 05 New
      +1
      I think they will continue. Good welders left, the old people and the pet graduates remained. Again, no one canceled the dribbling budget.
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 24 March 2020 20: 06 New
        0
        Quote: TermNachTER
        there were old people and petushniks

        Vocational school in Ukraine was abolished twenty years ago. There are no workers, unless they are self-taught. Or enterprises prepare for themselves, But here, as they say in Ukraine, "trosh, tilki for sebe".
        1. Avior
          Avior 24 March 2020 22: 36 New
          +3
          you're wrong
          as there were vocational schools, they remained
          https://100realty.ua/infrastructure/category/164/0
          ..... vocational school №4 (car mechanics, machine tool workers, electricians)
          Ukraine, Kiev, st. Chistyakovskaya, d. 24
          +38 044 442-0124
          +38 044 442-7177
          Colleges, vocational schools and technical schools
          Vocational school №6 (printing)
          Ukraine, Kiev, st. Shutova, d.13
          +38 044 446-9083
          +38 044 446-5205
          Colleges, vocational schools and technical schools
          Vocational school №7 (car mechanics, machine tools)
          Ukraine, Kiev, st. Garmatnaya, 10
          +38 044 446-5037
          +38 044 446-1002
          Colleges, vocational schools and technical schools
          Vocational school №8 (construction)
          Ukraine, Kiev, st. Klavdievskaya, d. 22
          +38 044 424-8109
          +38 044 424-0374
          Colleges, vocational schools and technical schools
          Vocational school №9 (metal and wood processing)
          Ukraine, Kiev, st. Mashinistovskaya, 1-b
          +38 044 568-9400
          +38 044 568-9500
          Colleges, vocational schools and technical schools
          ....
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 25 March 2020 00: 31 New
            -1
            Quote: Avior
            as there were vocational schools, they remained

            Only a few remained. So to speak.
            1. Avior
              Avior 25 March 2020 00: 42 New
              +2
              that, probably, they reduced it, but the vast majority remained, and did not even change the names
              1. orionvitt
                orionvitt 25 March 2020 04: 39 New
                0
                Quote: Avior
                the vast majority remained

                Again forced to disagree. Previously, vocational schools, as a rule, were on the balance of any enterprises. Closed the enterprise, closed vocational schools. Why I say so confidently, because I know. Example. In our area, the city is industrial, regional, not small. There were (at the end of the USSR) at least a dozen of such establishments with different profiles (I don’t know how many in the city there are five more districts). Now only one remains, which together contain three working enterprises. But a qualified locksmith, or turner, now FIG found.
                even the names have not changed
                How is it. did not change, now it is called "technical lyceum".
                .
                1. Avior
                  Avior 25 March 2020 04: 50 New
                  0
                  difficult to discuss an unknown area of ​​an unknown city
                  Most did not change the names, and remained vocational schools.
                  Technical Lyceum - some began to be so called, it is one and the same.
                  they were not on the balance sheet of enterprises, they were always state-owned, but they had so-called basic enterprises that allocated resources to them.
                  1. orionvitt
                    orionvitt 25 March 2020 08: 40 New
                    0
                    Quote: Avior
                    there were so-called base enterprises that allocated resources to them.

                    So this is on the balance sheet.
                    Quote: Avior
                    always been state

                    So the enterprises in the Union, the same were all state. But with the arrival of "effective owners", all the "ballast", in the form of vocational schools, the Criminal Procedure Code, recreation centers, dispensaries, pioneer camps and the rest, were either auctioned off, or simply closed as not generating income. Ask where to get specialists? What for? The last generation, which was trained even under the Soviet Union, are still living poorly, and then, even though the grass does not grow. State planning horizon in Ukraine, maximum a couple of months.
        2. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 24 March 2020 22: 47 New
          +1
          Vocational schools have not been abolished, they are simply named differently.
        3. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 26 March 2020 19: 58 New
          0
          Vocational schools then remained, but alas - the level of education, in comparison with the Union, no. Now they do not teach, but issue a diploma of education.
    4. major147
      major147 24 March 2020 20: 04 New
      0
      Quote: vvvjak
      Did the corporate identity of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex (cracks in the armor) remain?

      The potential is lost, the specialists fled. What they release is home-made.

      Military expert Viktor Baranets commented on the potential combat use of new boats of the Navy, pointing out their critical shortcomings.

      The new airborne assault boats of the Ukrainian Navy of the Centaur project do not justify the money and effort invested in their creation. Also, this "raw product" has many disadvantages. Such an opinion about the potential for the combat use of the Centaurs, which Ukrainian sailors want to oppose to the Russian Navy in the Black Sea, was expressed by military observer KP Viktor Baranets on Sputnik radio.

      “As for this“ miracle-yuda, ”it is, in fact, homemade. Experts say that gross technological errors were made there, ”the expert said, noting that the omissions of Ukrainian shipbuilders were so serious that they could no longer be corrected. At the same time, Baranets explained the reasons for such a conclusion: “If such gross violations as metal thickness, buoyancy are allowed, if the engine does not drag a boat too heavy, then you can’t do anything” .... /
      1. Avior
        Avior 24 March 2020 22: 56 New
        +3
        it’s hard to understand which experts the expert referred to and what he had in mind, but actually there is a video of tests that the engine normally pulls these boats, only yesterday there was an article about this with the video.
        there’s no smell of homemade products, a stable weapons platform and optoelectronic guidance
        1. major147
          major147 24 March 2020 23: 25 New
          0
          Quote: Avior
          hard to understand,

          I remember that article. But Comrade Barents is probably better known than you and me. He has a wider social circle.
          1. Avior
            Avior 24 March 2020 23: 51 New
            0
            Do you know my social circle?
            or Baranza?
            Not to mention the fact that he did not write anything from the actual side.
            1. major147
              major147 25 March 2020 00: 02 New
              -1
              Quote: Avior
              Do you know my social circle?
              or Baranza?

              And you "show" me !? I just expressed my assumptions ...
              1. Avior
                Avior 25 March 2020 00: 40 New
                -1
                I'm just asking.
                I wonder what your assumption is based on.
                1. major147
                  major147 25 March 2020 12: 01 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Avior
                  I'm just asking.

                  In my opinion, the awareness of Comrade Barantz follows from his activities on the radio and in the newspaper "KP". I can't even imagine your level of awareness.
    5. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 25 March 2020 00: 44 New
      +2
      It is written that the body armor is imported from NATO and the EU. Pans themselves can no longer roll armored plates. Faithful dear non-brothers are jumping :))))
  2. prior
    prior 24 March 2020 16: 31 New
    0
    And what is the haladilnik for fat e? Shaw neem ?! Tady oh.
  3. marshes
    marshes 24 March 2020 16: 32 New
    +7
    Th for the mod went to three ostniki, with the loss of one of the front wheels, the car can be gifted.
    About a month ago, a Chinese HOWO saw four people without a front wheel, a pancake was driving.
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 24 March 2020 16: 43 New
      +3
      And I personally saw Belarus without a single front wheel spied, but there was still a trailer, for balance, apparently.
      1. marshes
        marshes 24 March 2020 16: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: andrewkor
        And I personally saw Belarus without a single front wheel spied, but there was still a trailer, for balance, apparently.

        He personally saw how the Chinese pickup Belarus, a tractor, broke into two parts. By the way, he got off with a standard bat face, which is easily restored.
        In the 80s, a Tatra without a front wheel saw three wrecks, but the Tatras were made according to the spine pattern, plus it was loaded.
      2. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 17: 08 New
        -1
        Quote: andrewkor
        And I personally saw Belarus without one front wheel spied

        He has a leading tail. In our garage, drunk Vitka Lemon (not red, but thick yellow), drunk on the rear drums, resting on the bucket. Regularly.
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 24 March 2020 17: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: andrewkor
        And I personally saw Belarus without a single front wheel spied, but there was still a trailer, for balance, apparently.

        This?

        1. andrewkor
          andrewkor 24 March 2020 17: 25 New
          +2
          Similarly, only in winter.
          Thanks for the comment.
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 24 March 2020 17: 26 New
          +3
          He even without a trailer is able to ride on three wheels.
    2. Andrei Gurov
      Andrei Gurov 24 March 2020 16: 49 New
      +5
      I personally drove a Tatpa 815 without a front wheel.
      1. marshes
        marshes 24 March 2020 16: 51 New
        0
        Quote: Andrei Gurov
        I personally drove a Tatpa 815 without a front wheel.

        From the top described.
        1. Andrei Gurov
          Andrei Gurov 24 March 2020 16: 52 New
          +2
          You saw, and I worked.
          1. marshes
            marshes 24 March 2020 16: 54 New
            0
            Quote: Andrei Gurov
            You saw, and I worked.

            I myself was in shock, then after a while I read about the spine chassis.
            Now the Pakistanis are doing something according to this scheme.
            1. Andrei Gurov
              Andrei Gurov 24 March 2020 16: 57 New
              -1
              Excellent car, 10 cylinders, 30 liters of fuel consumption.
              1. marshes
                marshes 24 March 2020 17: 03 New
                0
                Quote: Andrei Gurov
                Excellent car, 10 cylinders, 30 liters of fuel consumption.

                I myself know, and pretty pass.
                But a Chinese man repays leasing in 3 years and in 7 years already brings not bad income. It’s true that you need to have more than one car.
    3. IL-64
      IL-64 24 March 2020 17: 13 New
      0
      I personally saw in the Vologda province between Vologda and Yarik on the UAZ highway a loaf with a hefty log stuck in a spreader under the rear axle instead of a single wheel, as our ancestors did in carts. I went, the infection.
    4. Avior
      Avior 24 March 2020 18: 17 New
      +6
      there is a four-axis version
      1. marshes
        marshes 24 March 2020 18: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Avior
        there is a four-axis version

        Well, this one looks solid, only you do not need to cook sheets at 90 degrees, tell me the trend, but never mind, then at a right angle on other machines in the form of hatches, under dynamic protection.
        1. Avior
          Avior 24 March 2020 22: 46 New
          +2
          mounted armor is also provided here.
          possibly also providing volume in order to make the machine more versatile, a wide range of applications is claimed for it
      2. evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
        evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru 24 March 2020 22: 39 New
        -8
        Well done, Ukrainians, sh evele ts i! Whoever is not on the computer and the box, only the armored personnel carriers have seen, he will understand that this is their next good job. They have a “four”, good with a stern ,, exit ,,. How old is she? For how many years ,, RK ,, (,, Capitalist Russia ,,) is behind even Ukraine? How old is ,, sleep ,,? Thirty? For three decades, the mind was not enough to make a SERIAL wheeled armored personnel carrier with a stern ramp! How many billionaires have grown during this time, how many ,, bobla ,, exported from the country of Russia!
        To build yachts with a displacement of more warships is enough intelligence, to spoil all goods and products, paper documents and cards by the notorious sixes - this is enough intelligence ...
        And to repeat the long-known technical solutions in the world that allow to save the lives of soldiers - here they are suddenly attacked with a laziness. He starts to dream, poor fellow, skinny ,, guardians ... (such and such) about the fate of the Fatherland.
        Ukrainians and heavy armored personnel carriers based on the tank demonstrated. Where is such concern for infantry in the Republic of Kazakhstan? Which of the great commanders of the Republic of Kazakhstan is really interested in saving the lives of soldiers? Here are the gubby little secretary girls, yes - interesting ... Noticeable.
        Only in ,, modern ,, military history, about 40 years old, does the whole world know that the engine in the front is good UNIVERSAL! I repeat ... Definitely for those who have APCs and another ABT seen not only in the pictures. And et and, our, figures, with n and t ,,! And they are not ashamed that, funny Ukraine is ahead of them in some matters
    5. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 24 March 2020 19: 06 New
      0
      It is economically feasible that three axles are much cheaper than four.
      1. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 24 March 2020 19: 36 New
        +2
        Math is not mistaken, math is mistaken ...

        So you can justify anything, but as for 3 people, their main advantage is the smaller BBM length, which, in a compartment with a standard width (2,5 m), allows you to drive on public roads in a dense stream of civilian vehicles.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 24 March 2020 19: 54 New
          -1
          Well, those who offer this miracle tachanka themselves are not going to fight in it. If possible, they would use the formula 4 X 2.
    6. Zoomlion
      Zoomlion 25 March 2020 12: 39 New
      0
      Tatra, from the time of the socialist camp, with an excavator superstructure, went the same without a front wheel. I compensated for the loss of stability with a bucket on the side of the remaining wheel
  4. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 24 March 2020 16: 33 New
    -9
    What country is this ,, miracle chariot ,,? Where is the national embroidered pattern? Where are the titanium pans? Nationality - not indicated. NOT PATIENT.
  5. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 24 March 2020 16: 33 New
    -1
    And why is he only riding on the sand ??? I understand that for MP, but show the real cross, this trough, on the road.
    1. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 24 March 2020 19: 07 New
      -1
      You can't go off-road - it can get stuck. How then ukroSS "vparit"?
  6. O. Bender
    O. Bender 24 March 2020 16: 34 New
    -1
    Yellow badges on the body, where do the markers need to aim? wassat
    1. Ravil_Asnafovich
      Ravil_Asnafovich 24 March 2020 16: 38 New
      +1
      Perhaps, but it seems to me that Ukrainians play this in Tetris laughing .
  7. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 24 March 2020 16: 37 New
    -7
    and when will this appear?

    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 March 2020 17: 05 New
      -1
      After 100 years, the desert battleship will definitely appear.
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 24 March 2020 18: 28 New
      0
      They only have these
  8. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 24 March 2020 16: 41 New
    -1
    Whatever they say, no matter how they bounce, Ukrainians will still remain traitors in my memory, well, what can I do? Have pity on them? Well, but my attitude will not change from this - a traitor is forever.
    1. Brabus GmbH
      Brabus GmbH 24 March 2020 16: 51 New
      +6
      So your wife is Ukrainian, I remember you were broadcasting about this - does she also turn out to be a traitor?
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 24 March 2020 16: 55 New
        +1
        Yes, ethnic Ukrainian. If you understand my words. And my son is in the Donbass.
        1. Brabus GmbH
          Brabus GmbH 24 March 2020 16: 57 New
          +2
          In the militia, like a local resident or volunteer from Russia? Or just lives there?
          1. Sergey Averchenkov
            Sergey Averchenkov 24 March 2020 17: 01 New
            -1
            Probably in the militia, I myself was there, but too old.
            1. Brabus GmbH
              Brabus GmbH 24 March 2020 17: 02 New
              +3
              And why "probably in the militia", you do not communicate?
              1. Sergey Averchenkov
                Sergey Averchenkov 24 March 2020 17: 04 New
                -6
                Do not meddle in family matters. This is not your business.
                1. Brabus GmbH
                  Brabus GmbH 24 March 2020 17: 08 New
                  0
                  Forgive me, of course, but you yourself said about your son in the Donbass, and now I’m still getting into family matters ...
                  1. Sergey Averchenkov
                    Sergey Averchenkov 24 March 2020 17: 19 New
                    -9
                    I will not forgive you.
                    1. Brabus GmbH
                      Brabus GmbH 24 March 2020 17: 24 New
                      +2
                      You are a strange person Sergey Averchenkov.
                      You start the conversation yourself, then you fall into an insult ... Then when you start crying, they ask forgiveness for you purely humanly ... And you, as a small child, I will not forget, I will not forgive ...
                      1. Sergey Averchenkov
                        Sergey Averchenkov 24 March 2020 17: 36 New
                        -4
                        Which is. Do you want those who are blinking you? I’m even funny.
                      2. Brabus GmbH
                        Brabus GmbH 24 March 2020 17: 45 New
                        +1
                        Okay, sorry again!
                        If my son was a Ukrainian punisher and fascist, shot civilians in the Donbass, and an ethnic Ukrainian wife would indulge this - I would not be myself, just like you ...
                      3. Sergey Averchenkov
                        Sergey Averchenkov 24 March 2020 17: 51 New
                        -5
                        It seems to me sometimes, but it seems this is not at all true. You famously copy me - my politeness, tactful behavior ... But understand, you do not when you do not become me, you have not been given this since childhood. I was raised this way, but you are not.
                      4. Brabus GmbH
                        Brabus GmbH 24 March 2020 18: 06 New
                        +2
                        That's just the point that seems to you ...
                        It seems, for example, that I want to become you ...
                        What for? Why am I becoming you? How do you imagine that?
                      5. Sergey Averchenkov
                        Sergey Averchenkov 24 March 2020 18: 12 New
                        -4
                        You again...
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  • Gray brother
    Gray brother 24 March 2020 16: 42 New
    +6
    23,5 tons on six wheels - I can’t understand it.
  • Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 24 March 2020 16: 43 New
    0
    Quote: vvvjak
    Did the corporate identity of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex (cracks in the armor) remain?


    No, we decided not to risk it: For the manufacture of an armored personnel carrier, the armored steel of the NATO and EU countries is used. laughing
    1. 72jora72
      72jora72 24 March 2020 16: 51 New
      -1
      and for the manufacture of an armored personnel carrier is used the armored ........
    2. Grits
      Grits 24 March 2020 17: 01 New
      +6
      English uniform,
      shoulder strap French
      tobacco japanese ...
    3. marshes
      marshes 24 March 2020 17: 06 New
      0
      Quote: Igor Borisov_2
      No, they decided not to take risks: for the manufacture of an armored personnel carrier, the armor of the NATO and EU countries is used.

      If the party is not large, you can do with the purchase of armored steel. Economically profitable.
    4. engineer74
      engineer74 24 March 2020 18: 47 New
      +4
      A short-sighted welder and a drunk thermist will easily return cracks to a regular place, regardless of the country of origin of steel wink
    5. Retvizan 8
      Retvizan 8 24 March 2020 18: 48 New
      +2
      I think this is not a cheap pleasure "the armor-steel of NATO members" (in itself, plus logistics), I'm afraid the Ukrainian military-industrial complex cannot afford such a luxury, otherwise the American boats would not be considered happiness.
    6. Peter is not the first
      Peter is not the first 26 March 2020 10: 29 New
      -1
      The appearance of cracks only partly depends on the armor steel; they appear during welding due to flaws in the technology. So let's hope that there will be cracks on new machines with imported steel, but made according to the "on the knee" technology.
  • svp67
    svp67 24 March 2020 16: 57 New
    -1
    Not handsome, this "Ataman". Will they show you afloat? And yet, I have big doubts that this armored personnel carrier will be able to move with the loss of any of the front wheels, with the same detonation? It hurts his nose is heavy
    1. syndicalist
      syndicalist 24 March 2020 18: 13 New
      0
      In reverse
      1. svp67
        svp67 24 March 2020 18: 24 New
        -1
        Quote: syndicalist
        In reverse

        It would be very interesting to see it. You watch the video carefully, even on the hill, his front wheels are not almost off the ground, his nose is heavy. With the loss of the front wheels, I do not exclude that the rear wheels will begin to come off the ground ...
  • Sarkazm
    Sarkazm 24 March 2020 17: 01 New
    +3
    Normal APC, I liked it. This is the second full sample issued by the neighbors to the mountain. The front engine and rear ramp serve as additional protection for the landing. The 6 × 6 wheel arrangement is understandable for the sake of maneuverability. Uninhabited tower.
    In short, a typical western armored personnel carrier, there is no fashionable modularity, but there is enhanced mine protection.
    Apparently, this armored personnel carrier will be relatively inexpensive and easy to maintain, which will allow Ukrainians to replace the armored personnel carriers BTR-60, -70.

    I think in a crisis, falling oil and gas prices, a possible loss of part of the markets, and as a result a reduction in budget revenues, we should also think about an inexpensive replacement for the BTR-80, -82. The boomerang will obviously be much more expensive and more complicated, and in the near future we will not master the large-scale rearmament on it. And such a relatively inexpensive and relatively simple armored personnel carrier, with a front MTO and a rear ramp, maneuverable with a 6 × 6 formula, an uninhabited tower (we have it), more advanced mine protection, on the nodes of the same BTR-80, -82 would be very handy. At least Romanian developments based on our BTR-70, -80 would have been torn apart, and BTR-82 would not have been riveted.

    We’ll wait and see if the Ukrainians adopt their armored personnel carrier, maybe even then our ones will be combed ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 24 March 2020 18: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: Sarkazm
      This is the second full sample issued by the neighbors to the mountain.

      And what is usefulness? He went through the entire test cycle and adopted? Or just put in the troops, and then all the flaws will be eliminated? Where is the video afloat? It is intended for the Marine Corps, not to mention the fire and mine = explosive tests. Now they will begin to weld gratings on it, let's see what happens next
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 17: 03 New
    -5
    mine protection created according to the NATO standard STANAG 4569, and for the manufacture of an armored personnel carrier uses the armor of NATO member countries and the EU.

    This is the main chip and the main trump card. For this, any possible jambs will be written off.
    True, this day with armored personnel carriers made of the armored steel of a NATO member country and the EU (Poland) this did not help much, but hope has not died yet.
  • awg75
    awg75 24 March 2020 17: 07 New
    -3
    "... developed by a private Ukrainian company ...." You don't have to read further.
  • Fishery
    Fishery 24 March 2020 17: 49 New
    -11
    nice transport, but in the spirit of the USSR, the concept reminds me of the idea of ​​an armored personnel carrier 80, except that mine protection was added
    1. svp67
      svp67 24 March 2020 17: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: Tonya
      nice transport, but in the spirit of the USSR, the concept reminds me of the idea of ​​an armored personnel carrier 80, except that mine protection was added

      You have something clearly with eyesight .... negative
  • Alexfly
    Alexfly 24 March 2020 18: 00 New
    +4
    By the way, a very good concept, 6x6: weight, power ratio, with the same armament as 8x8 ..
    1. svp67
      svp67 24 March 2020 18: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: AlexFly
      By the way, a very good concept, 6x6: weight, power ratio, with the same armament as 8x8 ..

      Here, the main thing is that the weight distribution along the axes is observed ...
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 24 March 2020 19: 03 New
    -1
    Another tale of "grandfather Panas", if anyone remembers, there was such a character in the Kiev program - an analogue of "Good night.
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky 24 March 2020 19: 23 New
    +1
    in the variant for the marine corps AFV "Ataman" will have a total mass of 23500 kg with a payload of at least 5500 kg. The crew of the combat vehicle - 3-4 people,

    Riddles .. Riddles ... Well, let's take a crew of 4 people. With an uninhabited tower, this is a mechanic, commander, operator and ... cook? 6 paratroopers in the kit = 5.500 kg. (monsters) Or is it along with BC and fuel? 23.5 tones, is it an armored personnel carrier (wagon) ?!
    1. Sarkazm
      Sarkazm 24 March 2020 21: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Kerensky
      in the variant for the marine corps AFV "Ataman" will have a total mass of 23500 kg with a payload of at least 5500 kg. The crew of the combat vehicle - 3-4 people,

      Riddles .. Riddles ... Well, let's take a crew of 4 people. With an uninhabited tower, this is a mechanic, commander, operator and ... cook? 6 paratroopers in the kit = 5.500 kg. (monsters) Or is it along with BC and fuel? 23.5 tones, is it an armored personnel carrier (wagon) ?!

      The payload is the carrying capacity of an armored personnel carrier without weapons or equipment, for example, if both in the video and in the photo it is without a tower.

      The crew of 3 people, the 4th apparently attributed and indicated the commander of the troop compartment.
      And this means that, apparently, there are 6 seats in the aft, airborne squad, the driver’s seat is in the front left, followed by three jobs - the crew commander, gunner and squad commander.

      Due to the fact that many affectors, even participants, do not know the basics, some write blunders, others are unable to understand them and write regular blunders - one thing in common, everyone wants to show off. And what, as I understand it, it doesn’t matter lol
    2. Avior
      Avior 24 March 2020 22: 28 New
      +2
      everyone mixed up in the article.
      there are different versions- 6 and 8 wheels, and different versions- landing, staff, sanitary, fire support and others
      possible body kit with additional armor is about 5 tons extra.
      specifically, the version in the picture has 3 crew + 7 landing.
  • tarakan
    tarakan 24 March 2020 21: 13 New
    -1
    I'm pohren on politics, but the military-industrial complex of Ukraine is gradually growing in quality. South Africa, too, started with wheelbarrows
    (Statement of facts)
    1. marshes
      marshes 24 March 2020 21: 22 New
      0
      Quote: tarakan
      I'm pohren on politics, but the military-industrial complex of Ukraine is gradually growing in quality. South Africa, too, started with wheelbarrows

      It can’t be compared with South Africa, and the military-industrial complex of Ukraine from scratch can scratch future contracts with Kazakhstan. An -74, armored personnel carriers-4, etc. Another two went to jail for bribes, though they went out and the generals have just left us for parole.
      The military-industrial complex of Ukraine can be chronicled.
  • Nadrub
    Nadrub 24 March 2020 21: 43 New
    -2
    Sorry ... something I did not see the test, the usual pokatushki. I also dissect on Kruzak when I break out into nature :)))
  • Sarkazm
    Sarkazm 24 March 2020 21: 57 New
    -2
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Sarkazm
    This is the second full sample issued by the neighbors to the mountain.

    And what is usefulness? He went through the entire test cycle and adopted? Or just put in the troops, and then all the flaws will be eliminated? Where is the video afloat? It is intended for the Marine Corps, not to mention the fire and mine = explosive tests. Now they will begin to weld gratings on it, let's see what happens next
    Completeness in layout and design solutions, ideology. The BTR-4 had flaws, it was not about the quality of welding or assembly, but about the layout. But even he is head and shoulders above our common Soviet "Zaporozhets" BTR-60PB in layout and ideology and everything that was riveted on its base up to today's BTR-82 ...
  • Sarkazm
    Sarkazm 24 March 2020 22: 02 New
    -2
    Quote: awg75
    "... developed by a private Ukrainian company ...." You don't have to read further.

    Our MIC, the manufacturer of the BTR-80, -82 family, belongs to the GAZ Group, the GAZ Group belongs to the "Family".
    Also a private company ... your findings? lol To remove the moth-beaten "Zaporozhets" BTR-80, -82, from service to the devil's grandmother? - I support! good
  • forester1971
    forester1971 24 March 2020 22: 08 New
    +2
    Inventing and building in a single copy is one thing, and launching in a series, organizing maintenance and repair - this is a more ambitious task, practically impossible for Ukraine.
    1. tarackanovaleksei
      tarackanovaleksei 25 March 2020 18: 30 New
      0
      1oo% true !!!
  • Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 25 March 2020 00: 51 New
    +1
    Marines, damn it. I wonder what these marines will land on? From the five inflatable boats that the Americans sold them?
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 25 March 2020 03: 46 New
    -1
    - "created according to the NATO STANAG 4569 standard, and for the manufacture of an armored vehicle, the armored steel of the NATO and EU member states is used" - suddenly NATO "bites", you can ask for money due to the meager budget of the Armed Forces ..
  • core
    core 25 March 2020 10: 10 New
    +1
    this car has no prospects. Apparently for the Ukrainian army the price tag will be horse, and Europeans do it for themselves.
  • tarackanovaleksei
    tarackanovaleksei 25 March 2020 18: 28 New
    0
    Garbage truck, centaur and ataman.
    Fear the enemy !!!