Defense Task Force in Italy to march in Bergamo

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Defense Task Force in Italy to march in Bergamo

The Russian detachment of military doctors and virologists, deployed by the Ministry of Defense to the territory of the Italian military air base "Pratica de Mare" near Rome, will continue to provide assistance in Bergamo. This was reported by the press service of the Russian military department.

The Russian detachment, together with the delivered equipment, is preparing to make a 600-km march to the city of Bergamo, where it will have to carry out measures to combat the coronavirus. This decision was made as a result of consultations held at the headquarters of the Italian army in Rome.

Based on the results of the consultations, it was determined that Russian military specialists with experience in combating epidemics caused by dangerous infectious agents around the world will begin to perform tasks in the Italian city of Bergamo. Currently, servicemen are coordinating routes for a 600-kilometer march and are preparing machinery and equipment for moving

- declared in the Ministry of Defense.



As previously reported in the military department, Russia sent one of the fifteen laboratories of the Russian Chemical Forces Army, eight medical teams, about 100 military virologists and epidemiologists, and special equipment for diagnosis and disinfection to Italy. Major Group of the RF Ministry of Defense in Italy is led by the Deputy Chief of the Radiation, Chemical and Biological Defense Forces of the RF Armed Forces Major General Sergey Kikot.
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  1. +44
    24 March 2020 15: 02
    Good luck guys!
    Try to get back all alive.
    1. +10
      24 March 2020 15: 20
      Beauties) good luck
    2. +39
      24 March 2020 15: 21
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      Good luck guys!

      Certainly!

      The Italians sent Russian doctors to the hardest point epidemics in Italy-in Bergamo...

      There, many local doctors are already sick and have long ceased to cope ....

      So that they succeed and, most importantly, may God protect them!
      1. +19
        24 March 2020 15: 35
        Let's hope that our military doctors turn out to be 100% professional
        Any deadly virus is essentially a bacteriological weapon, and this dangerous experience is necessary for the Russian Armed Forces.
      2. +3
        24 March 2020 16: 09
        That all would return alive and healthy, that the Italians ALWAYS remember.
        As soon as the message has passed, Italy closes gas stations, first on autobahns, then others.
        1. +6
          24 March 2020 18: 56
          that the Italians would ALWAYS remember.
          They will definitely remember, and will be rewarded with new sanctions fellow
          1. Dog
            +3
            25 March 2020 01: 11
            Quote: Rostov Dad
            They will definitely remember, and will be rewarded with new sanctions

            Thanks already as they can. While our planes with doctors and equipment flew to Italy, the Italian frigate, as part of NATO forces, passed the straits and entered the Black Sea.

            According to Interfax, the program of the "visit" includes training with NATO partners in the region, including actions chemical and biological forces.
          2. 0
            25 March 2020 04: 33
            Quote: Rostov Dad
            that the Italians would ALWAYS remember.
            They will definitely remember, and will be rewarded with new sanctions fellow

            The Italian workers will remember who came to their aid when there was already no one to go.
            What about the sanctions? Sanctions impose capitalists. And not even so much Italian as American. Because it is they who occupy Europe.
            1. +5
              25 March 2020 07: 43
              Quote: Shuttle
              Italian workers will remember

              smiled.
            2. 0
              25 March 2020 11: 33
              Quote: Shuttle
              Italian workers will remember


              You are at least half a century late. There is no such thing as "Italian workers" for a long time. There are ordinary "consumers".
              1. 0
                25 March 2020 12: 09
                Quote: Arkon
                You are at least half a century late. There is no such thing as "Italian workers" for a long time. There are ordinary "consumers".


                I talked with ordinary workers in Italy - the same questions that we have, how to feed a family, how to make ends meet - ordinary normal people, love children and their loved ones.
                I have an Italian neighbor - he married a Russian, speaks fluent Russian.
                Many times they chatted with him "for life".
                He doesn’t dare in Russia - he believes that we are much freer and better than in Italy.
      3. +8
        24 March 2020 18: 25
        Defense Task Force in Italy to march in Bergamo

        That's why I respect our general staff for high professionalism and healthy subtle humor. This operation of Russian doctors is called "Truffaldino" wink
        central Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera
        "I medici militari russi, con esperienza nella lotta contro le epidemie, che sono arrivati ​​ad aiutare il popolo italiano, nell'ambito dell'operazione medica militare congiunta "Truffaldino" inizieranno a svolgere compiti a Bergamo. Attualmente, i soldati dei due paesi concordano percorsi di commettere 600 chilometri di marcia e si preparano per il movimento di attrezzature e attrezzature. Grazie russia
        1. 0
          24 March 2020 18: 45
          Quote: Rich
          That's why I respect our general staff for high professionalism and healthy subtle humor. This operation of Russian doctors is called "Truffaldino"

          Yes, there is no joke here, people are dying with battalions. Although if they are talking about a film, it will be a star of Russia's reputation.
          1. +5
            24 March 2020 18: 54
            Personally for me it’s such a normal name, all the more literally connected with Bergam. Italians have no claims to its name. On the contrary, the central Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera writes about this military medical operation - ... "Grazie Russia"
            1. +1
              24 March 2020 19: 06
              Quote: Rich
              Personally for me it’s such a normal name, all the more literally connected with Bergam.

              I wanted to make the same joke about Trufaldino but not that topic, people die like flies.
              Quote: Rich
              Italians have no claims to its name.

              Modern Italians do not even know the names of operas and operets; the people have changed a lot.

              Quote: Rich
              On the contrary, the central Italian newspaper "Corriere della Sera" writes about this military medical operation - ... "Grazie Russia"

              But no one remembers Trufaldino ..
              Battalion-Almost Squad.
              1. 0
                24 March 2020 23: 53
                Nobody recalls most likely, because in the original version of the Italian play about the servant of two masters, he is not Truffaldino from Bergamo, but Truffaldino Battochio.
                I agree with you, the name is at least very controversial.
            2. +3
              24 March 2020 21: 10
              Quote: Rich
              "Grazie Russia"

              And what, I represent a convoy of Russian military equipment (albeit medical), on the roads of Italy. The crisis is a crisis, but it was impossible to imagine such a week ago. And the fact that Italy fell into such a position, then who is the doctor? It turns out, Russia and China. Jokes are not jokes, irony is not irony, but a fact.
            3. +6
              24 March 2020 21: 21
              And in two years they will begin to thank the USA for their help .... The memory of the girl (European) is short!
    3. +11
      24 March 2020 15: 33
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      Good luck guys!
      Try to get back all alive.


      What are Russia, China, Cuba doing (trying to localize the epidemic) and what mattresses are doing ... geeks ... pah.
      1. ABM
        +4
        24 March 2020 16: 15
        some incoherent set of words that ended with an invitation to Italy ... unemployment - I understand it, it doesn’t! isolate the whole of Europe for the coming year, at least. Like the Cord https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSbSTj4uPa4
      2. +4
        24 March 2020 21: 16
        "Do not go to Europe, otherwise you will bring the infection"
        What exactly is wrong with these words? I hate to endure Kiseleva, but in this case, what is he wrong in? All of Europe fenced off fences, and this Madame sits in Italy, and something else clever there. But about American tanks, this is the topic.
    4. +10
      24 March 2020 17: 00
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      Good luck guys!
      Try to get back all alive.


      So do not believe after that in the theory of conspiracies and the golden billion ...
      1. 0
        25 March 2020 00: 02
        Have you read the quote?
        Do you know how many of the "rebellious people" of the United States are sick from the virus, which supposedly should act selectively?
    5. +5
      24 March 2020 22: 30
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      Good luck guys!
      Try to get back all alive.

      ======
      The guys work like this: "If not us, then who? ".... So they worked in Chernobyl ...
      He is not a believer, but I want to say: Let's go to the HOLY cause! God help you!
      1. +5
        25 March 2020 02: 20
        Quote: venik
        The guys work like this: "If not us, then who?" .... So they worked in Chernobyl ...
        He is not a believer, but I want to say: Let's go to the HOLY cause! God help you!

    6. 0
      26 March 2020 11: 58
      Meanwhile, on the 23rd, the Italian regatta, along with the Canadian one, came to the shores of Crimea and probe our coastline of defense!
  2. +1
    24 March 2020 15: 04
    Wasn’t there any closer airbase ?! It seems that the interactions between the parties are not coordinated! Or time is not measured in stock ?!
    1. +1
      24 March 2020 15: 06
      It’s written that the routes are now agree.
      1. -1
        24 March 2020 15: 14
        And I'm not talking about routes, but about interaction. It was impossible to land the necessary group initially closer to Bergamo?
        1. 0
          24 March 2020 15: 15
          There are probably reasons. Perhaps the usual Italian slackness :)
          1. +5
            24 March 2020 15: 32
            Perhaps the usual Italian slackness

            It’s just as you say, Italy is a member of NATO, and no one has canceled secrecy.
        2. +6
          24 March 2020 15: 38
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          It was impossible to land the necessary group initially closer to Bergamo?

          You can, everything is possible. But this is decided by the host. Apparently this airbase is least affected by infection and we need to look at the logistics ... There are many conditions.
        3. +2
          25 March 2020 00: 04
          it seems where and how to use it specifically, they began to think only after arrival, and therefore flew to Rome.
    2. +7
      24 March 2020 17: 02
      Bergamo airport itself was closer, but I suspect that it is now full of airplanes and there is simply no place. Probably there are some considerations, the Russian Federation reacted so quickly that no one expected - therefore, a suitable air force base.
      Good luck to you
      1. +3
        24 March 2020 21: 54
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        Bergamo airport itself was closer, but I suspect that it is now full of airplanes and there is simply no place. Probably there are some considerations, the Russian Federation reacted so quickly that no one expected - therefore, a suitable air force base.
        Good luck to you

        I am interested in the question of how long the memory of those European helmsmen will be, when the mattresses to them, after they overcome this virus, will again "recommend" to impose sanctions against the Russian Federation.
        1. +5
          25 March 2020 02: 07
          Quote: NEXUS
          how long will those European helmsmen have a long memory when ....

          You probably remember the truth from the Anglo-Saxons: there are no friends in politics, there are only temporary partners. I would not hope for their memory, certainly not to take into account their reliability: people will remember steering as a weather vane ...
        2. 0
          25 March 2020 12: 23
          It will be the same as with the Bulgarians. We are innocent, we have Euro-solidarity. feel
    3. +1
      24 March 2020 17: 28
      Bergamo itself has a good airport
      1. +3
        24 March 2020 17: 32
        A few dozen km is the huge airport of Malpenza and the other is Linate in Milan. 150 km is still 2-Venice and Torino
        1. +2
          24 March 2020 22: 00
          A few dozen km is the huge airport of Malpenza and the other is Linate in Milan. 150 km is still 2-Venice and Torino

          In Turin, a joint air base with NATO (probably hiding something), when the F-16 was resting there, they got it flying overhead. laughing
          In Milan, one is closed a long time ago.
          In Venice, for silts, the strip is a little short; I don’t know anything about the second.
          1. +1
            24 March 2020 22: 17
            Quote: bk316
            A few dozen km is the huge airport of Malpenza and the other is Linate in Milan. 150 km is still 2-Venice and Torino

            In Turin, a joint air base with NATO (probably hiding something), when the F-16 was resting there, they got it flying overhead. laughing
            In Milan, one is closed a long time ago.
            In Venice, for silts, the strip is a little short; I don’t know anything about the second.

            You are not good at aviation. In Caselle where the airport is located, there is a Typhoon plant and they fly often there. But not f-16.There’s to try to distinguish f-16 from typhoon)
            So you don’t know anything about one of the largest European hubs in Malpensa? Yeah...
            1. 0
              25 March 2020 19: 22
              where the airport is located there is a Typhoon plant and fly often there. and not f-16

              It is F-16 that flies. I might have mixed it up, but they have a different number of engines - you won’t be mistaken.
              And about the strips google, anyone can, nov saw them with their own eyes.
          2. +1
            24 March 2020 22: 41
            Quote: bk316
            In Venice, for silts, the strip is short

            In Venice - Short

            Runways
            room Dimensions (m) Покрытие
            04R / 22L 3300 asphalt
            04L / 22R 2780 asphalt

            And in Pratica di Mare, once.

            Pratica di Mare

            Airport type military
            Aeronautica Militare operator
            Location Pomezia, Rome

            Runways
            direction length surface
            m ft
            13L/31R 2480 8138 asphalt
            13/31
            (CLOSED) 2540 8335 asphalt

            Expert You are certainly notable. And airplanes and airports. Like numbers
          3. 0
            28 March 2020 11: 24
            In Turin, at the entrance to the airport stands the F-104 in an eternal parking lot.
      2. +2
        24 March 2020 20: 23
        Quote: Separ
        Bergamo itself has a good airport

        Very good, well equipped, but with a very limited number of parking lots. If you consider that the local inhabitants, aka 9H-registration do not fly - everything is clogged there, there is simply no place
  3. +4
    24 March 2020 15: 05
    Directly to the epicenter! I feel sorry for my own. I hope our doctors and virologists do not disappoint.
    1. +13
      24 March 2020 15: 40
      Quote: Marconi41
      Directly to the epicenter!

      There are strong professionals, they worked with Ebola in Africa, in Italy there are no specialists with such experience.
    2. +4
      24 March 2020 15: 48
      Quote: Marconi41
      I feel sorry for my own.

      Theirs simply "end" ...
      Quote: Marconi41
      I hope our doctors and virologists do not disappoint.

      They know what they are doing and why they came there. All they are not doing there now is our vanguard. Which should show how to deal with the "massive attack" of such an "enemy"
  4. +28
    24 March 2020 15: 06
    We live in an amazing time. Russian troops save NATO, when other NATO members do not move at all, only pick their nose, and steal masks with an antiseptic.
    1. +7
      24 March 2020 15: 10
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      We live in an amazing time. Russian troops save NATO, when other NATO members do not move at all, only pick their nose, and steal masks with an antiseptic.

      Not only do they not move, but they also try to put sticks into the wheels like Poland.
      1. +3
        24 March 2020 15: 43
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        We live in an amazing time. Russian troops save NATO, when other NATO members do not move at all, only pick their nose, and steal masks with an antiseptic.


        Did Russia ever act differently? Let NATO pick it further ...
    2. +12
      24 March 2020 15: 12
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      We live in an amazing time. Russian troops save NATO, when other NATO members do not move at all, only pick their nose, and steal masks with an antiseptic.

      First of all, Russian troops save their country, risking their health and lives in order to learn how to deal with such in a combat situation - is there anything surprising in this? Yes, and Italy does not mind ... China did not provide us with such an opportunity and actually did not give the virus strains ...
      About NATO - everyone knows about it, but they are silent - they joined NATO for political reasons, not a single member of NATO intends to seriously expose their countries to various kinds of dangers ... but it is politically beneficial!
      1. +3
        24 March 2020 15: 16
        This is clear. But the media will also work to the fullest, they say, "The Russians are saving Italy while all the other European countries are kicking the bald."

        Our reputation will go up at a reactive speed.
        1. +8
          24 March 2020 15: 20
          Quote: Lord of the Sith


          Our reputation will go up at a reactive speed.

          You don’t have to rely on this very much - the brain was washed very much by the western man in the street, he would rather believe that Putin is sending green men to the EU .... but there are adequate people in the west .. let's see how things go in this direction ..
        2. +1
          24 March 2020 15: 24
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Our reputation will go up at a reactive speed.

          Not really. Because there is China, which is doing orders of magnitude more.

          But the reputation of Italy’s allies will fall by rail.
          Especially against the background of the fact that Cuba decided to help doctors.
          1. +17
            24 March 2020 15: 31
            Quote: Spade
            Especially against the background of the fact that Cuba decided to help doctors.

            Cuba has a VERY high level of medicine and the training of doctors. Viva Cuba! Viva Fidel!
            1. +9
              24 March 2020 15: 35
              Quote: svp67
              Cuba has a VERY high level of medicine

              but the state is frankly poor. Very poor. But they still help.
              Venezuela, Suriname, Granada, Jamaica, Nicaragua.
              And now, Italy.

              Quote: svp67
              That's who they are after that

              Poles...
              They always replace brains with ambition.

              Everything looks very rotten there ...
              Poles and Czechs, "wringing out" China's humanitarian aid, Poles, not allowing Russian planes to pass, Americans, exporting test systems from Italy in an atmosphere of secrecy and being caught on this ...
              1. +5
                24 March 2020 15: 40
                Quote: Spade
                but the state is frankly poor.

                Unfortunately yes. But all the medicine of Central America and many African countries rests on Cuban doctors
          2. +2
            24 March 2020 15: 39
            But the reputation of Italy’s allies will fall by rail.


            Yes, nothing will fall, this pandemic will decline, and everything will be as before. They will also accuse Russia of creating this coronovirus and everyone will support the accusations together.
            1. 0
              24 March 2020 15: 44
              Quote: private person
              Yes, nothing will fall

              Already dropped, hard. Very much.
              After these photos, the attitude simply cannot remain the same:

              https://www.dvidshub.net/image/6145794/covid-19-testing-swabs-arrive-memphis
              1. +1
                24 March 2020 16: 08
                Already dropped, hard. Very much.
                After these photos, the attitude simply cannot remain the same:

                And what did IL-76 bring the vaccine in these photos? So the medicine has not yet been invented, it is being unloaded, because the virologists need to ride something and live. The President of Italy turned to the United States for help and the United States, of course, will not so much help as they do a PR campaign and the whole World will know about it. And the opinion of ordinary citizens that we have that in Italy no one will take into account. You read the comment below demo (Van) man wrote everything correctly.
                1. +6
                  24 March 2020 16: 12
                  Quote: private person
                  And what in these photos of IL-76 brought the vaccine?

                  In this photo American military transport aircraft takes out test systems for coronavirus from the north of Italy. IN USA. They need it.

                  I posted a link under the photo
                  1. -5
                    24 March 2020 16: 58
                    takes out test systems for coronavirus from the north of Italy. IN USA. They need it.

                    So in Italy there is a shortage of ventilators, masks. And do you really think that it is taken out by test systems for coronavirus? And let me ask whose load it is? Or maybe it's just someone’s evil joke.
                    1. +1
                      24 March 2020 21: 09
                      Quote: private person
                      And do you really think that it is taken out by test systems for coronavirus?

                      Exactly.
                      And it's not me who "think". This is how the Americans signed their own photographs.

                      Approximately 500,000 testing swabs and supplies were flown from Aviano Air Base, Italy, to the FedEx hub in Memphis, Tennessee, to be distributed to medical facilities across the US

                      "Approximately 500 test swabs and supplies were shipped from Aviano, Italy, to FedEx in Memphis, Tennessee for distribution to healthcare facilities throughout the United States."
                      In black and white.
                      1. 0
                        24 March 2020 21: 16
                        Quote: Spade
                        In black and white.

                        Black on white on a shovel.
                        Translate the whole text to the venerable public.
                        The mission follows the first Air Mobility Command-directed mission on March 16-17, which also transported 500,000 testing swabs in support of a US Department of Health & Human Services-led, whole-of-government effort to combat the Coronavirus pandemic. The swabs are produced by the Italian company Copan Diagnostics, Inc., which continues to produce sufficient quantity to satisfy Italian and global requirements. As the US continues to buy these swabs, AMC's active, Reserve, and Air National Guard components are honored to help transport our Italian partner's generous support to help the American people
                      2. +1
                        24 March 2020 21: 29
                        Quote: Liam
                        Translate the whole text to the venerable public.

                        Translate excuses? What, they say, "The Italians already have enough"? That "in fact, these are not test systems, but devices for taking swabs, which can be produced by anyone, but we decided to send BTA aircraft for them. To Italy, eight and a half thousand kilometers away ... And to the north of Italy, subjecting hazard pilots.

                        At first, the Americans could not keep this operation secret. Boasting seemed more important.
                        Then they could not really lie. Or they did not care if they believed them or not ...

                        But it's' too late.
                        Even if the spoon is "found", the sediment will remain. And what else ...
                      3. 0
                        24 March 2020 21: 36
                        Something you wiggled. And it would seem. A simple translation of the link that they themselves brought
                      4. -1
                        24 March 2020 22: 39
                        Quote: Liam
                        Something you wagged

                        Rather, you have trouble reading.

                        I will highlight it for you personally, otherwise you will not "notice"



                        And the Americans wag
                        Trying to lie that these were "tampons and consumables" Which are much easier to produce at home than to carry from the epidemic in Italy.
                      5. Dog
                        +1
                        25 March 2020 02: 06
                        Quote: Spade
                        Translate excuses?

                        You greatly overestimate the ability of the European (and not only) layman in terms of resistance to propaganda. Today this is an excuse, and tomorrow it is an "objective" story. They have not yet forgotten, and they will forget it.
                        And as for our help ... You know, as they say: if you help a person once, he will definitely remember you - the next time he will need help again.
                      6. 0
                        25 March 2020 08: 59
                        Quote: Dog
                        You greatly overestimate the ability of the European (and not only) layman in terms of resistance to propaganda.

                        Or maybe you overestimate this?
                        Let me remind you that the phrase "spoons have been stolen" has already been shouted out. Italian press.
                        And this method is the main one in the information struggle with Russia.
                      7. Dog
                        0
                        25 March 2020 11: 17
                        Quote: Spade
                        Or maybe you overestimate this?

                        The Suez humiliation (which was important for the whole of Europe) was forgiven, Vietnam was forgiven, the Powell test tube was forgiven, the destabilization of the Mediterranean region was regularly forgiven (walking for Italians is critical) - the test plane will be forgiven even faster.
                        Your counterexamples?
                      8. 0
                        25 March 2020 11: 34
                        Quote: Dog
                        The Suez humiliation (which was important for the whole of Europe) was forgiven, Vietnam was forgiven, the Powell tube was forgiven,

                        And the Italians here generally from which side?
                      9. Dog
                        0
                        25 March 2020 16: 24
                        Quote: Spade
                        And the Italians here generally from which side?

                        Italy is one of the first countries to support the ideas of pan-European politics. Europe’s position on these issues is well known, there is no doubt that it is consonant with Italian.
                        So I understand that you have no examples of your statement?
                      10. 0
                        25 March 2020 18: 30
                        Quote: Dog
                        Italy is one of the first countries to support the ideas of pan-European politics.

                        8))))
                        And during the Suez crisis, and during Vietnam, and in the war with Iraq, Italy was nothing more than a fan.
                        So she obviously has nothing to be offended at.

                        But when the Americans in Iraq fired on an Italian convoy with a freed journalist ... Ten days later, Berlusconi announced the start date for the withdrawal of the Italian contingent from this country.
                        That is, resentment had obvious consequences. Almost immediately.
                      11. Dog
                        0
                        25 March 2020 22: 54
                        Quote: Spade
                        8))))

                        Too many emotions and too little logic.
                        The Suez crisis ended with the transition of Europe, as such, into even less equal partners of the states, if I may say so. The course of events had a negative impact on oil transportation to the Mediterranean countries in the first place. Is Italy a fan here? Obviously, the threat of oil supplies and the loss of part of pan-European sovereignty is much more serious than the fired convoy.
                        Vietnam. It is enough to read about the geography of protests against this war, so that you no longer speak nonsense.
                        Iraq. Some anti-war speeches on this issue in Italy are already able to tell the attentive observer that the Italians did not feel themselves ordinary fans here.
                        Quote: Spade
                        resentment had obvious consequences.

                        It was just used as an excuse for a particular act.
                        The Italians did not stop making friends with the states less. Economic, cultural and military ties have been preserved in full
                      12. 0
                        25 March 2020 23: 10
                        Quote: Dog
                        Too many emotions and too little logic.

                        Right Too much pulling an owl on the globe.

                        Quote: Dog
                        Obviously, the threat of oil supplies and the loss of part of pan-European sovereignty is much more serious than the fired convoy.

                        Indeed, just fired, what nonsense.


                        Pictured is a Roman park named after Nikola Calipari, who died covering up an Italian journalist who had just been released from captivity from American bullets.
                      13. Dog
                        0
                        26 March 2020 00: 12
                        Quote: Spade
                        Too much pulling an owl on the globe.

                        Exactly. Examples of events for which Italians should have a grudge against the states are in front of you (one such small one is given by you). The level of "friendship" between the states and Italy is also no secret, and it is frankly high, no matter what.
                        So where did you see that something fell "hard and very hard" there?
                      14. 0
                        26 March 2020 00: 17
                        Quote: Dog
                        So where did you see that something fell "hard and very hard" there?

                        Obviously not from where you pulled Italy's mortal grudge against the Vietnam War ...
                      15. Dog
                        0
                        26 March 2020 03: 16
                        Quote: Spade
                        Obviously not from where you pulled a mortal resentment

                        When you cannot substantiate your point of view, try to refute any of the opponent’s secondary statements in order to create the appearance of continuing the discussion. If even the secondary allegations of the opponent cannot be refuted, don’t put it down, come up with a statement (yes stupid) for the opponent yourself, and refute him yourself!
                        I did not call these problems in relations between the USA and Italy mortal insults. Moreover, my honor is just the opposite - that Italians to the Yankees forgive everything. So, this your thought - completely went into milk. There is also?
                        Well, I repeat the question - what and where did you fall there?
                      16. 0
                        26 March 2020 09: 15
                        Quote: Dog
                        When you cannot substantiate your point of view, try to refute any of the opponent’s secondary statements,

                        Exactly
                        You could not refute the fact that the Italians clearly do not like how the allies are now dealing with them.

                        Therefore, they began to invent for them imaginary mortal grievances, which they allegedly forgave. Pulling an owl onto the globe. "Italy was one of the first countries to support the ideas of a common European policy, therefore it simply could not help but be offended that the United States did not give Britain and France, which joined them, to establish control over the channel."

                        You failed to confirm the seriousness of these grievances.
                        How to confirm, I showed you the example of an attack on a convoy with a freed journalist and the immediate reaction of the Italian authorities.

                        Quote: Dog
                        When you can’t justify your point of view

                        ... start trying to translate everything into personalities. Fortunately, I try not to allow opponents such feints.
                      17. Dog
                        0
                        26 March 2020 13: 18
                        Quote: Spade
                        You could not refute the fact that the Italians clearly do not like how the allies are now dealing with them.

                        You are making up my thesis for me again. I repeat to you what you started to argue with:
                        Quote: Dog
                        They have not forgotten it yet, and they will forget it.


                        Quote: Spade
                        deadly grievances

                        Do not invent.

                        Quote: Spade
                        start trying to translate everything into personalities

                        Let's talk about politeness. You do not understand that inventing a stupid thesis for your opponent - do you insult him? Try to realize this.
                      18. 0
                        26 March 2020 15: 23
                        Quote: Dog
                        Let's talk about politeness.

                        There is nothing on the topic in your post. Generally.
                        And I’m not interested in discussing myself with you as a loved one. What I already wrote about. in previous post
                      19. Dog
                        0
                        26 March 2020 15: 56
                        Quote: Spade
                        There is nothing on the topic in your post. Generally.

                        There is a statement that you decide to challenge.
                        There are your inventions which just do not concern business and which should be stopped to distribute.
                        Thus, there is everything for a reasoned answer. But it’s obvious that I won’t wait from you.
                        I say goodbye to this.
                      20. -1
                        26 March 2020 15: 57
                        Quote: Dog
                        There is a statement that you decide to challenge.
                        There are your inventions which just do not concern business and which should be stopped to distribute.
                        Thus, there is everything for a reasoned answer. But it’s obvious that I won’t wait from you.
                        I say goodbye to this.

                        And again.
                        By the way, only one desire to discuss the opponent.
                      21. 0
                        25 March 2020 23: 02
                        Shovels in his role ..
                        Quote: Spade
                        But when the Americans in Iraq fired on an Italian convoy with a freed journalist


                        Rome, 17:08  January 8 2020 / IA

                        Italian defense minister: we stay in Iraq


                        The Italian military contingent will remain in Iraq, Italian Defense Minister Lorenzo Guerini said on January 7 during a telephone conversation with the head of the Pentagon, the Italian newspaper Il Messaggero reported.

                        Lorenzo Guerini assured his American counterpart Mark Esper that Italy was not going to withdraw its troops from Iraq. The number of Italian soldiers in this country is 926
                        .
                      22. 0
                        26 March 2020 00: 16
                        Quote: Liam
                        Italian defense minister: we stay in Iraq

                        8))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))
                        Congratulations to you Sharik ...... (s)
                        8))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))
                        Damn, where do you just come from ....
                      23. +2
                        25 March 2020 00: 20
                        I suspect that the one who paid is the manufacturer of Copan Diagnostics, Inc. and shipped them
                        Through the Italian airbase Aviano.
                        The world of capitalism is so established.
                        and somewhere you saw the statement that the Americans intercepted them from the Italians, and the Italians themselves wanted to buy this party?
                      24. 0
                        25 March 2020 09: 05
                        Quote: Avior
                        and somewhere you saw the statement that the Americans intercepted them from the Italians, and the Italians themselves wanted to buy this party?

                        laughing laughing laughing
                        And does it really matter ????
                        For some Mario Bombese, who, sitting in strict quarantine, worries about his sick father and mother-in-law. Bought, stolen, lay in the warehouses of the American military base for 40 years ... He does not care
                        Mario Bombese sees photos in which the Americans taken out from the country is something used in the fight against coronavirus. And with a high probability these are test systems. And if it seems to you that he will like it and he will begin to justify them, like some on this site, then you do not know people at all.
                      25. 0
                        25 March 2020 09: 12
                        I don’t know Mario, but there are acquaintances in Italy, just in the north
                        On occasion, I ask who is accused of the situation
                      26. +1
                        25 March 2020 09: 18
                        I have a cousin, a translator from Italian. Dozens of trips to Italy and a lot of friends. Their situation is enraged. They believe that their "allies" have abandoned them. As they were abandoned before, during the economic crisis and during the hyper-influx of migrants. And the only ones who help are the Chinese
                      27. 0
                        25 March 2020 10: 28
                        Yeah, at first they themselves reacted frivolously to the threat, and then the allies were to blame
                        In fact, they usually blame their government, always dissatisfied
                      28. 0
                        25 March 2020 11: 35
                        Quote: Avior
                        Yeah, at first they themselves reacted frivolously to the threat, and then the allies were to blame

                        For an ordinary person, this is normal
                      29. 0
                        25 March 2020 10: 20
                        Quote: Avior
                        who is accused of the situation

                        And who should be blamed? The whole world is blazing, as it were. Tests are needed to identify infected people. The numbers you identified are like everybody else. You read every day as reports from the fronts. Do you think there are problems with identifying patients in Italy? Already, why are there enough tests?
                        Well, if there are complaints against someone, this is to China. First of all, for 3 months he hid the dust under the carpet and crushed the police with his doctors who shouted about a new virus in social networks, and the authorities denied that the virus spread throughout these 3 months the world and have what we have.
                        And this deception in China is not the first time. All infections come from them and are constantly hushed up until it gets out of control.
                      30. 0
                        25 March 2020 09: 57
                        Quote: Avior
                        I suspect

                        Copan italia spa
                        Indirizzo: Via F. Perotti 10 - 25125 Brescia (BS)
                        This is an Italian company located in Italy. They perform these tests and sell to everyone around the world, including Amers. Interceptions are only in the cramped world of a local party.
        3. +17
          24 March 2020 15: 24
          In 1945, we were already once in the stratosphere of universal adoration.
          Nazism defeated.
          And then with great speed we began to fall into inferno.
          So it will be here.
          To me, a man of advanced years, the essence of Western politicians is extremely clear. Yes, and citizens.
          We do our job and calmly return home.
          And let it be what happens.
          1. +3
            24 March 2020 18: 22
            I also want to add Messina 1908.
      2. Red
        +6
        24 March 2020 15: 19
        It's just that this whole legend about human values ​​in Europe, equality and fraternity turned out to be fiction. Europe does not care about its neighbors. And Russia is a generous soul, it has always been and always will be.
    3. +4
      24 March 2020 15: 17
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      We live in an amazing time. Russian troops save NATOwhen other NATO members do not move at all, they only pick their nose and steal masks with an antiseptic.

      On this occasion, the Germans seem to have expressed themselves in the following vein: "With this act, Russia drove an ax into the chest of NATO to the very hilt."
    4. +3
      24 March 2020 15: 18
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      We live in an amazing time.

      Not that word. Damn it, march-throw RKhBZ 600 km, and even on the territory of the country of NATO ...
      Yes, here is "three in one": and a good thing, and training, and invaluable experience. And let the flawed runner who has dumped in Italy, who regularly defecates here, choke on his own bile.
      1. +3
        24 March 2020 15: 47
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        We live in an amazing time.

        Not that word. Damn it, march-throw RKhBZ 600 km, and even on the territory of the country of NATO ...
        Yes, here "three in one": a good thing, and training, and invaluable experience.

        And this is the only plus of this situation. The truth is huge.
        But on gratitude to Italy we will still look. For example, when the time comes for them to vote on anti-Russian sanctions. I bet that in the best case they will vote against, but they will raise their hands and will perform like the rest. That's all lyubof.
    5. +5
      24 March 2020 15: 39
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      We live in an amazing time. Russian troops save the country ...
      so not the first time ...

      topwar.ru/15760-podvig-russkih-moryakov-v-messine.html
      1. +2
        24 March 2020 18: 07
        Pikul, "Out of the Dead End" in my opinion describes this case. Or Okini-san's Three Ages. Our sailors, when they carried the wounded, said: "Nothing, senor, nothing, senorita." From the cruiser "Askold" in my opinion there were sailors.
        1. +4
          24 March 2020 18: 22
          Valentin Savvich has a story called "Nothing, signor, nothing, signorita!"
          in 1908, there were sailors of the Baltic Fleet’s squadron from the battleships “Tsesarevich” and “Glory”, cruisers “Admiral Makarov” and “Bogatyr” in Messina



          by the way, Pikul was not told that ours had to shoot a certain number of local looters ...
          1. +2
            25 March 2020 11: 59
            I forgot it, thanks for reminding me. hi
            1. +1
              25 March 2020 12: 23
              not at all ...
              about those events there is still a documentary
    6. -1
      24 March 2020 15: 41
      Yes, I feel that Italy alone will not manage to soon Ukraine will have to be sterilized. With their gouging, the authorities haven’t closed everything and they don’t have anything there to fight this virus. No one will save them there except for us. So I wait, I think, not for long.
    7. -1
      24 March 2020 15: 42
      Our people, as always, are hoping for a chance, and suddenly, relations will warm up and at least someone better to treat us. A lot of people and money were threatened with this back in Soviet times, and now in the same Hope our leaders forgive everyone their debts. No, at least to my pensioners debts write off
  5. +3
    24 March 2020 15: 13
    Why are Roseman and "Ear of Matzo" silent? It is unlikely that conscience is tortured, for there is simply no such thing, but there is cynicism and bigotry.
    1. +3
      24 March 2020 15: 27
      Quote: knn54
      Why are Roseman and Ear of Matzo silent?

      They are still composing. Do not have time for Shoigu. He very quickly organized everything.
    2. 0
      24 March 2020 15: 40
      Quote: knn54
      Why are Roseman and "Matzo's Ear" silent? It is unlikely that conscience tortured, for there is simply no such thing, but there is cynicism and hypocrisy.

      Do not be silent:
      https://topwar.ru/169349-gozman-predpolozhil-chto-na-samoletah-v-italiju-putin-chto-to-vyvozit-v-jetot-turbulentnyj-period.html
    3. 0
      24 March 2020 16: 00
      Quote: knn54
      Why are Roseman and Ear of Matzo silent?

      Gozman is not silent!
      https://topwar.ru/169349-gozman-predpolozhil-chto-na-samoletah-v-italiju-putin-chto-to-vyvozit-v-jetot-turbulentnyj-period.html

      But it would be better to be silent ...
  6. 0
    24 March 2020 15: 26
    Russian military (albeit doctors) march across the country of NATO, a script for the film of the apocalypse
    1. +2
      24 March 2020 17: 45
      There are not only doctors, there are RKhBZ troops (military chemists)
  7. +7
    24 March 2020 15: 29
    Defense Task Force in Italy to march in Bergamo
    They are being thrown into the very "hell" now. Good luck to all of you guys. Come back all alive.
  8. -1
    24 March 2020 15: 29
    Russian detachment of military doctors and virologists deployed by the Ministry of Defense to the territory of the Italian military air base

    Only the Russians are afraid of nothing and nobody .. Everyone else has shut up and is shaking in a panic .. Good luck to you guys, I’m sure you don’t disgrace the honor of the Motherland .. Help other nations, it’s in our blood even if we have to risk our own lives! hi
    1. +4
      24 March 2020 15: 52
      It would be nice if other nations appreciated the help ...
  9. +6
    24 March 2020 15: 31
    Operation "polite people in white".
  10. +2
    24 March 2020 15: 38
    Not a bad demonstration of the Flag of the Russian Federation !!!
  11. -1
    24 March 2020 15: 48
    And at this time in Russia:
    "During the day, 14 more patients with coronavirus were registered in 57 Russian regions," the operational headquarters for the fight against COVID-19 said.

    Sobyanin said that there is no real picture of coronavirus in the regions"
    1. +2
      24 March 2020 15: 54
      there will be more but on the general background this is normal
    2. +2
      24 March 2020 16: 04
      Quote: Old Fuck
      Sobyanin said that there is no real picture of coronavirus in the regions "

      Can I find out where and when this statement was made? And where does the mayor of Moscow to other regions, let him answer for his own, but why is he crawling into other regions?
      I'll tell you why. Now a stream of "newcomers" has poured out from Moscow, since there is a problem with work in Moscow, due to quarantine, and how much they are now spreading this infection across the country, this is the question. So, Sobyanin is now trying to remove some of the guilt. And in the place of the nearest provinces, at the entrance to the region, I would establish a medical control in order to immediately cut off those suspicious for quarantine.
      1. +2
        24 March 2020 16: 20
        Quote: svp67
        Can I find out where and when this statement was made? And where does the mayor of Moscow

        NOVO-GAREVO, March 24. / TASS /. There is no real picture of the level of coronavirus infection in the regions of the Russian Federation, said Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin, first deputy chairman of the Government’s Coordination Council to combat the spread of the new coronavirus.


        "Not all regions understand [the situation with the spread of the virus]. Well, they [regional leaders] see that one is sick. The fact is that the volume of testing is very low, there is no real picture," said the mayor of the capital.

        He cited the Primorsky Territory as an example, noting that "if 6 thousand people arrived in Primorye who have been abroad in the infected zones, then this is still a big problem, and sooner or later this problem will come out"
        .
        1. 0
          24 March 2020 17: 03
          Quote: Liam
          He cited the example of Primorsky Krai

          Well, yes ... with the words of the mayor of Moscow, it is, of course, the problems of Primorsky Territory are better seen ... So, I would help Primorye, I would send tests, means of protection to them, which of the medical workers ... economy. I repeat once again, he is trying to absolve himself of some of the guilt for a quick surge, due to the rollback of "labor migrants" from Moscow, due to strict quarantine. Honestly, I would have understood him if he had established control points at the exit from Moscow and that they would have weeded out all the suspicious, otherwise ... I do not understand him. Or say openly that you need to tackle this problem or not get involved in other people's business.
          1. +1
            24 March 2020 17: 19
            So he is in addition to the mayor of Moscow
            Quote: svp67
            Sergei Sobyanin, First Deputy Chairman of the Government Coordination Council to Combat the Spread of the New Coronavirus.

            By the way. Here is the transcript of this meeting.
            http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/63053

            There are very interesting details of a report to Putin on the topic, for example, how many resuscitation beds there are real in Moscow. In particular, at Kommunarka, the country's main virus-fighting hospital:
            Let's go to Kommunarka, there are only 60 intensive care beds
            And about 10 places of them are already occupied even with the official 200/300 of the current sick.
            More interesting numbers from the transcript:
            Now are risk groups, if we thought, those who came from abroad, but they arrived million to Russia in the last 10 days
            1. 0
              24 March 2020 17: 45
              Quote: Liam
              Now there are risk groups, if we thought, those who came from abroad, but a million of them came to Russia in the last 10 days

              Actually, it was reported about 100 Russians abroad, from where is the figure in a million?
              1. +3
                24 March 2020 17: 47
                Do you think that Sobyanin brazenly lies in the eyes of Putin at the meeting?)
                I'm afraid that the real picture of the situation differs a little from what has so far been cheerfully reported to the population
                1. 0
                  24 March 2020 22: 10
                  [quote] Do you think that Sobyanin brazenly lies in the eyes of Putin at the meeting?)
                  It’s not with Sobyanik just with numbers it’s hard like you.
                  For 10 days you can’t import llamas in any way, just so many flights cannot be made.
                  1. +1
                    24 March 2020 22: 23
                    bk316 Do you think that Sobyanin brazenly lies in the eyes of Putin at the meeting?)
                    It’s not with Sobyanik just with numbers it’s hard like you.
                    Lyam cannot be imported by air in 10 days, just so many flights cannot be made

                    Well, of course. How did Sobyanin (and the Kremlin’s press service) know the real numbers? You easily counted it on your fingers ... and they have no idea what they are talking about. The President of the country and the head of the anti-virus headquarters.
                    Denial of reality is what stage?
          2. Dog
            +1
            25 March 2020 02: 31
            Quote: svp67
            tests, remedies they would send

            I read the other day about the purchase of more than a hundred million tests by Moscow. The purchase was carried out without a tender from a firm with an authorized capital of 10 thousand rubles, with a meager turnover in previous years, and which, bothering, just before the winning bidder was bought by some suspicious person.
            If this is what it seems - then the Moscow authorities would not refuse to buy tests both for Primorye and for milking the whole of Russia. "To whom the war, to whom the mother is dear."
      2. -1
        24 March 2020 17: 31
        Quote: svp67
        Can I find out where and when this statement was made?

        "Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin, at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, said that there is no real picture of the spread of coronavirus in Russian regions, and said that he would ask to instruct the head of the presidential administration, Anton Vaino, to ensure control of the situation."

        https://ria.ru/20200324/1569074448.html
    3. 0
      24 March 2020 16: 13
      Quote: Old Fuck
      Meanwhile

      You have promoted all comments. My question is, do you wish all our guys good luck? Do you wish them doom?
      1. -2
        24 March 2020 17: 38
        With some comments, I agree, with some not. There are no fewer pluses than minuses.
        The only thing that causes concern is that the lives and health of our military doctors are endangered and that Italy is an active member of NATO, which, in general, occupies anti-Russian positions.
        1. +5
          24 March 2020 17: 53
          Quote: Old Fuck
          With some comments, I agree, with some not. There are no fewer pluses than minuses.

          I am glad that you have decided to "change your shoes". Just don't think that the "footprints" do not remain. God is your judge
          Quote: Old Fuck
          The only thing that causes concern is that the lives and health of our military doctors are endangered and that Italy is an active member of NATO, which, in general, occupies anti-Russian positions.

          And there are not only doctors, there are soldiers and officers of the Russian Army Chemical Forces. Sorry, but they are all MILITARY, and the military has such a fate that the people water him, feed him, dress them at his own expense, but when the time has come he is obliged to go out and protect the people. They are now gaining invaluable experience that they are broadcasting to us, in the Center of Defense. On the basis of their actions, forces and means will already be planned here, if we go according to the Italian scenario, or better, to prevent it.
          It was not just that the best were sent there, realizing that they were being excluded from the ranks of those who would stand in the way of this virus here. After all, you need to understand that these people dropped out on a business trip plus two more weeks ...
          1. +1
            24 March 2020 18: 18
            Quote: svp67
            And there are not only doctors, there are soldiers and officers of the Russian Army Chemical Forces. Sorry, but they are all MILITARY, and the military has such a fate that the people water him, feed him, dress them at his own expense, but when the time has come he is obliged to go out and protect the people. They are now gaining invaluable experience that they are broadcasting to us, in the Center of Defense. On the basis of their actions, forces and means will already be planned here, if we go according to the Italian scenario, or better, to prevent it.
            It was not just that the best were sent there, realizing that they were being excluded from the ranks of those who would stand in the way of this virus here. After all, you need to understand that these people dropped out on a business trip plus two more weeks ...

            Well, it’s hard to disagree with your statement. Only one question: why then did our military doctors go not to China? Why exactly Italy? Why not Spain? Why not another European country? Or did no one but Italy ask for help?
            1. +5
              24 March 2020 18: 32
              Quote: Old Fuck
              Why exactly Italy?

              The death toll in Italy has already surpassed that in China. Now compare the population and imagine the scale of the tragedy of China and Italy. They will crush this infection in Italy, and fly to Spain, if she asks
            2. +1
              24 March 2020 22: 13
              Only one question: why then did our military doctors go not to China?

              Because China did not ask for help (and now it won’t ask.) For specialists, they sent masks. Didn’t get it?
              And Spain is next in line and possibly Germany. Although I think the Germans can resist.
            3. Dog
              0
              25 March 2020 02: 37
              Quote: Old Fuck
              why then our military doctors did not go to China

              They didn’t let them into China. The delegation went (the zavkaf of virology, like, he told me about the 2nd honey, he was part of it) - they didn’t let her go anywhere or show anything, they didn’t give the strain, they didn’t share
          2. 0
            25 March 2020 00: 23
            Sorry, but they are all MILITARY, and the military has such a fate that the people water him, feed him, dress them at his own expense, but when the time has come he is obliged to go out and protect the people.

            a bit controversial
            people feed and water the military all the same, not so that they defend their enemies.
            And NATO is quite an official enemy.
    4. +1
      24 March 2020 19: 05
      Quote: Old Fuck
      "During the day, 14 more patients with coronavirus were registered in 57 Russian regions," the operational headquarters for the fight against COVID-19 said.


      Yesterday was 71 ... It would be nice if the trend continued ..
      1. +2
        24 March 2020 22: 16
        It would be nice if the trend continued ..

        I’m directly interested in how little people understand in the situation.
        What is the trend? What can you say from these numbers?
        Hint: random sampling from random sampling varies by the same function as the original one.

        Need to clarify?
    5. +1
      24 March 2020 19: 23
      Quote: Old Horseradish
      Sobyanin said that there is no real picture of coronavirus in the regions"
      Let him look after his region! Also me, the mayor of all Russia ...
  12. -5
    24 March 2020 15: 51
    : Our stopudovo vaccine arrived.
    1. +6
      24 March 2020 16: 05
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Our stopudovo vaccine arrived.

      The vaccine is now there - what a dead poultice, it should be administered to a person in advance, for two months. Here now other methods will be applied
    2. +5
      24 March 2020 18: 10
      Not yet, vaccines. So far, only on the way to her.
      1. 0
        24 March 2020 18: 20
        Novosibirsk scientists have begun to create two vaccines against the deadly coronavirus - laughing
    3. -2
      25 March 2020 00: 24
      which in nature does not exist yet
  13. -3
    24 March 2020 16: 04

    Trembling Europe, "polite little green men" came to save you. Again. As usual.
    1. 0
      25 March 2020 02: 33
      Please note - there are women soldiers !!!
      Good luck and health in the performance of battle launchers !!
      1. +1
        25 March 2020 11: 03
        Quote: Mikhail Drabkin
        Please note - there are women soldiers !!!

        Right now your delight is not clear. Yes, there are a lot of women in this group, doctors are in the same place, and the junior medical staff, as it is, is mainly staffed with women. Nurses, laboratory assistants, and there are many specialties that they perform better
  14. +5
    24 March 2020 16: 08
    Quote: Hagalaz
    Quote: Paranoid50
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    We live in an amazing time.

    Not that word. Damn it, march-throw RKhBZ 600 km, and even on the territory of the country of NATO ...
    Yes, here "three in one": a good thing, and training, and invaluable experience.

    And this is the only plus of this situation. The truth is huge.
    But on gratitude to Italy we will still look. For example, when the time comes for them to vote on anti-Russian sanctions. I bet that in the best case they will vote against, but they will raise their hands and will perform like the rest. That's all lyubof.

    If you HELP, then do not demand anything in return.
    And if you demand something in return, then you are SELLING already.
    And on the market, as you know, two fools @ ka - one believes that they took a lot from him,
    another that he gave almost for nothing.
  15. -9
    24 March 2020 16: 14
    This is a good training for our military. Sooner or later polite people will appear in Italy. Our Rome will be.
    1. +6
      24 March 2020 18: 15
      For starters, I propose that the Pskov Region be put in order, and then it’s gotten into Italy.
  16. +2
    24 March 2020 16: 22
    And in Russia, as with this matter, in Kazakhstan appeared sick people who did not fly further than Moscow. By the way, there is one Russian.
    1. +3
      24 March 2020 16: 30
      they write that 495 patients, of whom almost 300 in Moscow and the region ...
      1. +1
        24 March 2020 16: 37
        Quote: reservist
        they write that 495 patients, of whom almost 300 in Moscow and the region ...

        I don’t believe it, we have closed two cities, every day 2-3 people are identified, whole houses are quarantined, if the closest quarantined houses went to the boutiques.
        now 68 patients.
        1. +3
          24 March 2020 17: 06
          there were already 71 daily, in "commercial quantities" only in the last days they began to get sick ...
          I think in a couple of weeks the scale of the disaster will manifest itself ...
          while there are still enough people in the Moscow metro, although it has already become significantly freer ...

          68 to 18 million - this is one to 264 thousand
          495 to 140 million - one to 284 thousand
          the ratios are still similar ...
          1. +3
            24 March 2020 17: 11
            Quote: reservist
            I think in a couple of weeks the scale of the disaster will appear ...

            Close cities.
            In Almaty, crime has fallen, the air has freshened up, there are few arriving cars, prices are being controlled.
            One joy to work in the garden. Private house.
            1. +4
              24 March 2020 17: 16
              Quote: marshes
              Close cities.

              if suddenly I meet someone from the Kremlin, or at worst from the Moscow City Hall, I’ll tell them right away ... soldier
              It seems that Moscow did not dare to close it ...
              1. 0
                24 March 2020 17: 28
                Quote: reservist
                It seems that Moscow did not dare to close it ...

                Yes, of course, in front of a lot more.
                It is easier for Italians to teach cabbage soup.
                1. +1
                  24 March 2020 18: 01
                  I hope that this is the case when it is better to learn from the mistakes of others ...
                  why the Germans and Koreans have the same ratio of sick / dead so far ...
                  1. +1
                    24 March 2020 18: 14
                    Quote: reservist
                    I hope that this is the case when it is better to learn from the mistakes of others ... why the Germans and Koreans have the same ratio of sick / dead so far ...

                    I like the Chinese, even though they are concrete gouging through life, but there is an order and they carry it out.
                    There are relatives in Germany, a cousin’s wife is ill, and her sister is forced to isolate herself, although her husband is sick. It’s still not clear who is ill at all.
                    South Korea, a cousin of her husband’s wages since October, they say she’s not sick and everything is fine, she doesn’t want to leave otherwise she will not drive away, so Koreans should not be trusted.
                    1. +2
                      24 March 2020 18: 58
                      and what is wrong with the Koreans?
                      two months ago they "caught" their first sick person, at their peak 800 people a day were infected, now somewhere around 100, 111 died in almost a month and a half, with almost 9 thousand cases ...
                      1. 0
                        24 March 2020 19: 20
                        Quote: reservist
                        and what is wrong with the Koreans?

                        So they rally that the border had to be closed in early February.
                        By the way, Kazakhstan closed the border with China in early February, students and citizens were taken out, quarantined, not one sick.
                        And here MARCH, our citizens began to return from Europe, Russia and Belarus, and the virus appeared.
                        But we relish that the first virus was brought on a private plane, the court president of the city of Nursultan from Germany, so I think that maybe this is why the whole Kazakhstan was transferred to the paramilitary emergency mode.
                      2. 0
                        24 March 2020 19: 52
                        Quote: marshes
                        So they rally that the border had to be closed in early February.

                        probably it is from the "envy" of the northern neighbors ...

                        Quote: marshes
                        But we relish that the first virus was brought in on a private plane, the President of the court of Nursultan from Germany

                        Well, yes, it seems that starting from some moment of climbing the social ladder, some people begin to "blow away the roof" ... that the governor Evdokimov, who decided that the laws of physics were not written for him and at a speed of 150 you can not wear a seat belt,
                        that the main infectious disease specialist Stavropol Sannikova, who had broken into Spain and decided upon her return that quarantine was not invented for her ...
                      3. +1
                        24 March 2020 20: 07
                        [quote = reservist] probably it is from "envy" to the northern neighbors ... [/ quote]
                        Yes, FIG knows, I’m going to get my word on my son-in-law. Although South Korea survived two dictatorships.
                        [quote = reservist] Evdokimov, who decided that the laws of physics were not written for him, and that at a speed of 150, you can’t even buckle up, [/ quote]
                        He is sorry for the good man, although there are questions ...
                        [quote = reservist] that the chief infectious disease specialist Stavropol Sannikova, rushed to Spain and upon her return decided that quarantine was not invented for her ...
                        We have the same main Sanvrach of Almaty, flew to Germany, now in Quarantine.
                    2. +1
                      24 March 2020 20: 02
                      Quote: marshes
                      the Chinese like it, even though they’re the concrete gouging in life,

                      Now in Naples it was a shame ... laughing As for the gouging, then it’s up to the Italians, as from China to Italy on foot. fellow
                      1. -1
                        24 March 2020 20: 19
                        Quote: Paranoid50
                        Right now in Naples it was a shame ... As for the gouging, then it’s up to the Italians, like from China to Italy on foot.

                        I didn’t get in touch with the Italians, but the Chinese, I need a looker. It hurts too much to dispel them.
                        Taskmaster with a whip.
                        No wonder my ancestors took them to slaves. laughing
      2. +1
        24 March 2020 17: 12
        If we put these statistics at the beginning of the Italian schedule, then in a week or two all these doctors and equipment will be needed in Russia to no lesser extent. I wonder if the Italians will return all this?
        1. 0
          24 March 2020 17: 25
          if we take the German chart "optimistically" as a basis, then in two or three weeks ...
          120 thousand lived in Bergamo, here the question for specialists is probably - how long does it take to localize the epidemic in such a city?
  17. +2
    24 March 2020 16: 33
    The Russian military at the NATO airbase, who would have thought ...
  18. +3
    24 March 2020 16: 41
    certainly looks like gouging on the part of Italians. It was possible to land initially in northern Italy.
    On the other hand, it will be an epic spectacle: the movement of Russian military equipment along the Italian highways. In vain they didn’t take an armored personnel carrier with chemical equipment)))))
  19. 0
    24 March 2020 16: 41
    laughinghttps://youtu.be/MOTBTSFgJSA
  20. +1
    24 March 2020 17: 00
    Why are our medical aid planes for Italians making such a detour through the Black Sea, and do not go through Belarus, Poland and the Czech Republic. laughing
    1. -1
      25 March 2020 00: 28
      Czech Republic has no border with Italy
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    1. -4
      24 March 2020 19: 16
      You confuse the warm with the soft, guided not even by external signs, but by foam on them.
  22. +1
    24 March 2020 18: 02
    Quote: Brabus GmbH
    At a time when their "middle class" needs help ...

    Do they need the help of chemists and virologists? No need to interfere with different things in one pile.
  23. -6
    24 March 2020 18: 12
    Quote: svp67
    Sorry, but they are all MILITARY, and the military has such a fate that the people water him, feed him, dress them at his own expense, but when the time has come he is obliged to go out and protect the people. They are now gaining invaluable experience, which they broadcast to us, to the Center of Defense

    What kind of people are our guys in Italy protecting? I don’t pay taxes to help the NATO countries when they have something to do. Let them receive invaluable experience in the territory of the country that feeds and watered them. What is stopping them? We have no one to treat?
    And the Italians are happy: the Russians are helping them for free. Now they will twist a finger at their temples about "these strange Russians", then they will say: "Well, thanks, you helped ... goodbye!" and will again vote as is customary in NATO.
    And God forbid (pah, pah) someone of ours will become infected and die? How can relatives explain why their husband, son, dad died? For the health of the inhabitants of the Italian province?
    In short, another attempt to appease the "brotherly family of NATO peoples."
    1. +1
      24 March 2020 22: 20
      I don’t pay taxes for that,

      Did you pay a lot?
  24. +2
    24 March 2020 18: 26
    Of course, we must pay tribute to S.K. Shoigu! Organizer! Not hollow. Well done.
    1. +1
      24 March 2020 18: 40
      Quote: Warrior StillTot
      Of course, we must pay tribute to S.K. Shoigu! Organizer! Not hollow. Well done.

      He is a former MCHSnik with a sense of humor.
  25. 0
    24 March 2020 19: 07
    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: Honest Citizen
    Good luck guys!

    Certainly!

    The Italians sent Russian doctors to the hardest point epidemics in Italy-in Bergamo...

    There, many local doctors are already sick and have long ceased to cope ....

    So that they succeed and, most importantly, may God protect them!

    The Prime Minister of the Netherlands, Mark Rutte, made a televised address to the nation on March 16 about the very serious situation with coronavirus. The performance was announced as historical.

    Rutte said the Netherlands would not follow the path of all countries and close the Netherlands. The Netherlands is a free country. The prime minister said that they will develop group immunity in the population. The more people get sick, the greater the chance that the virus will not cling to them more. A virus, like, after quarantine cancellation can come back and again everyone will get sick, and for the economy the consequences will be very serious. belay
    1. +2
      24 March 2020 19: 19
      they weren’t the first ones like that ... the British seemed to sing these songs too, but the other day they had changed their minds ...
    2. -1
      24 March 2020 22: 21
      The prime minister said that they will develop group immunity in the population.

      Well, if you do not mind a few hundred thousand citizens, then the right position ....
  26. +1
    24 March 2020 19: 18
    The Scientific School of the Virology Scientific Center (VSC) of the Institute of Microbiology of the Ministry of Defense of Russia has rich experience in creating antidotes for fatal diseases. For example, it was military virologists who conducted a series of studies on the isolation of the causative agent of SARS from patient samples, and the causative agent of this disease was isolated and characterized for the first time in Russia. Based on this, a diagnostic test system was developed to identify the SARS virus. Specialists of the Armed Forces also created a standard sample laboratory for identifying this dangerous virus infection, which all the major sanitary epidemiological stations of Russia were equipped with. Probably, we still don’t know everything. The work of the Virology Scientific Center of the Ministry of Defense of Russia is carried out under the heading "Top Secret." But open sources of information reported that in 1995 the then head of the VNC, Major General of the Medical Service Alexander Makhlai, for creating the world's only immunoglobulin for the prevention of Ebola, was awarded the title of Hero of the Russian Federation. In all industrialized countries of the world, only the military trusts the work with viruses of the first pathogenicity group, the mortality rate from which can reach 80–90 percent.
  27. -1
    24 March 2020 19: 31
    Quote: private person
    Perhaps the usual Italian slackness

    It’s just as you say, Italy is a member of NATO, and no one has canceled secrecy.

    Now they’ll study the topography, they will probably track the march by satellites. Italy is for us for the first time, the military passed Europe all over, only Suvorov fought in the Alps. Success to the military! soldier hi
  28. 0
    24 March 2020 19: 48
    It is not clear just why it was sent there at all.
  29. 0
    24 March 2020 19: 48
    In support of the Italians. At the moment.
    1. +1
      24 March 2020 20: 08
      Quote: marshes
      At the moment.

      somewhere in Italy ... people are sitting in quarantined houses ...
      1. 0
        24 March 2020 20: 22
        Quote: reservist
        somewhere in Italy ... people are sitting in quarantined houses ...

        We have a lot of opera divas there for work, they sing the same from the balcony.
        We love opera, but not very much with ballet. laughing
  30. +3
    24 March 2020 20: 07
    Military doctors- Respect. Thanks to them, I am alive.
  31. +1
    24 March 2020 20: 12
    And when I wrote the day before yesterday that it was normal and humane to help people in mortal need, I got a lot of minuses.

    One eccentric even managed to write that let them die, they didn’t help us, our hut is on the edge.

    Today, when the "topic has begun": good luck guys, what a fine fellow, handsome men! And a bunch of pluses. Is it changing shoes in the air or is the nose strictly downwind? Where were these posts the day before yesterday?
    1. Dog
      0
      24 March 2020 22: 42
      Quote: Mentat

      And when I wrote the day before yesterday that it’s normal and humane to help people in mortal need, I was hit with minuses

      That bot worked out. Do not take to heart. It happens here.
      1. -1
        24 March 2020 22: 51
        Quote: Dog
        That bot worked

        A bot is, strictly speaking, an automaton. And then you are wrong.

        True, part of the local patrons (such as bungler) can also be attributed to bots - they are predictable, they are quite simple to manipulate. And if you accept this approximation, then you are not far from the truth.

        But that is not the point. Kamrad Mentat has been on the site for 5 years, he knows all these baubles very well, and his comment is an obvious fork to the side, thereby making it really hot. And you came and smashed all the raspberries request laughing
        1. Dog
          -1
          24 March 2020 23: 04
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          A bot is, strictly speaking, an automaton

          Think of it as an epithet / metaphor
  32. 0
    25 March 2020 02: 49
    Quote: Avior
    which in nature does not exist yet


    Avior-stopudovo knows where they are doing. laughing The complexes laid down by the Beatles and Rolling at our old people are alive, infections. laughingthis is purely your personal point of view that does not have any facts to confirm.
    1. +2
      25 March 2020 04: 02
      make and done - two big differences
      if they did, it would have been known for a long time, no one would have hidden
    2. Dog
      +1
      25 March 2020 11: 28
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Avior - stopudovo knows

      Not only can there be a head, it can also be thought of.
      Any vaccine needs testing. To reliably know how it acts on the body after, say, 3 months, it is necessary to watch the "experimental" for 3 months. At the same time, animals will act first as experimental and only then - people. So you can multiply this term by 2.
      A vaccine that is unclear how it will manifest itself after a while is a potential biological weapon against its own people.
      Everything is quite simple and obvious.