US Marine Corps will lose all heavy armored vehicles

The U.S. Department of Defense intends to conduct a massive reform of the Marine Corps. According to the Pentagon, the reform will take about 10 years, during which the ILC will lose heavy equipment and almost all artillery. It is reported by The Drive.

According to the plans of the American military department, the number of the USMC will be reduced by about 20 thousand people, thereby coming to the final figure of 170 thousand marines. All seven will be cut tank units, as well as ships designed to transport tanks. Instead of heavy armored vehicles, LAV-25 wheeled armored personnel carriers and ACV amphibious combat vehicles will be introduced, which will replace tracked amphibious assault vehicles (AAV) in the ILC.

The artillery batteries of 155 mm howitzers also fall under the reduction. Instead of the 21 batteries currently in service with the Marines, only 5 will remain at the end of the reform. aviation the total number of aircraft and helicopters will be reduced. Although the number of fighter squadrons will remain the same - 18, but instead of 16 aircraft they will consist of 10. But the number of UAV squadrons will increase from 3 to 6.

At the same time, the number of ground-based missile and artillery units and anti-tank missile units will triple from 7 to 21. In particular, we are talking about M142 MLRS (HIMARS) systems, which are planned to be used for launching anti-ship missiles and short-range quasiballistic missiles. Planned deployment of ground launchers for cruise missiles Tomahawk.

As the commander of the Marine Corps, General David Berger, said in the future, the U.S. ILC does not expect to conduct large-scale military operations against serious opponents. In the current configuration, the Marine Corps has exhausted its capabilities and cannot resist Russia and China, so in the future the emphasis will be on compact, mobile troops that do not have heavy weapons.

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[Victor_B]

US Marine Corps will lose all heavy armored vehicles

She is the MARINE infantry!
Tanks in the water are Drowning!

[Round Smesharik]

The U.S. Department of Defense intends to conduct a massive reform of the Marine Corps. According to the Pentagon, the reform will take about 10 years, during which the ILC will lose heavy equipment and almost all artillery. It is reported by The

They will be sitting at the consoles .. Well, well ..

[Victor_B]

Quote: Round smesharik

They will be sitting at the consoles .. Well, well ..

There will be bespectacled batans on gaming chairs to sit and drive a tank for a thousand miles.
And what, he came to the service from the morning, until the evening he shot a bunch of barmaley from the tank and went home.
Not a service - a dream!

[Alex777]

This is how the peacefulness of the "partners" is brought up.
They can’t resist - they curled up in a tube and sit at home.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Victor_B

Tanks in the water are Drowning!

At its core, the same Octopus is a light tank and it can swim.

in the future, the United States ILC does not expect large-scale military operations against serious opponents.

It is precisely that a serious war (in the non-nuclear version) with a serious enemy of the United States will not be financially or technically pulled.
And for me, the United States is now doing with the Marine Corps what Khrushchev once did with our ART.

[cost]

Instead of heavy armored vehicles, LAV-25 wheeled armored personnel carriers and ACV amphibious combat vehicles will be introduced, which will replace tracked landing vehicles (AAV) in the KMP.

LAV-25

TTX
Classification armored fighting vehicle
Combat weight, t 12,8
Crew, people. 3
Landing, people nineteen
History
Manufacturer Canada General Motors of Canada → General Dynamics Land Systems Canada
Years of operation since 1983
dimensions
Body length, mm 6390
Width, mm 2500
Height, mm 2690
Clearance, mm 350
weaponry
Caliber and brand of gun 25 mm automatic gun М242 Bushmaster
Type of gun rifled
Gun ammunition 420 (M791 APDS-T+M792 HEI-T)
Other armament two 7,62 mm FN MAG machine guns, one coaxial, one on the turret roof
Mobility
Engine type Detroit Disel 6V53T
Engine power, l. with. Xnumx
Highway speed, km / h 100
Cruising on highway, km 660
Wheel formula 8 × 8 / 4
Overcoming rise, hail. Xnumx
Passable wall, m 0,4—0,6
Overcoming ditch, m 2,1
Crossing ford, m swims

[cost]

Instead of heavy armored vehicles, LAV-25 wheeled armored personnel carriers and ACV amphibious combat vehicles will be introduced, which will replace tracked landing vehicles (AAV) in the KMP.

landing vehicles AAV7

[Center]

TTX
Classification Tracked amphibious assault vehicle
Combat weight, t 22,8-29,1 (AAVP-7A1)
Crew, people. 3
Landing, people nineteen
History
Developer FMC Corporation/United Defense
Manufacturer FMC Corporation/BAE Systems (assembly),
Rafael (passive armor protection means),
SAIC (upgrade)
Years of production 1972
Main operators Argentina, Brazil, Venezuela, Spain, Italy, Cambodia, South Korea, USA, Thailand, Taiwan, Japan
dimensions
Body length, mm 7940
Width, mm 3270
Height, mm 3260
Reservation
Type of armor aluminum, bulletproof and anti-fragmentation
Forehead, mm / city. sixteen
Hull board, mm/deg. 35 and 45
Feed housing, mm / city. thirteen
Bottom, mm 30
weaponry
Caliber and brand of gun 40-mm automatic grenade launcher MK-19
(864 rounds)
or 25 mm automatic gun
M242 Bushmaster
(900 rounds)
Machine guns 12,7 mm machine gun M2HB
(1200 rounds)
Mobility
Engine type Detroit Diesel 8V-53T (P-7),
Cummins VT 400 903 (P-7A1)
Engine power, l. With. 400 (300 kW)
VTAC 525 903-525 hp (AAV-7RAM-RS)
Speed ​​over rough terrain, km / h 13 (on water)
Cruising on highway, km 480
Specific power, l. s / t 18
Suspension type torsion bars in pipes (AAV-7A1);
torsion bar (AAV-7RAM-RS)

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Victor_B

Tanks in the water are Drowning!

As it turned out, heavy artillery, aircraft and 20 thousand personnel are also drowning ...
Peace be upon them ...

[Honest Citizen]

As the commander of the Marine Corps, General David Berger, in the future, the U.S. ILC does not expect to conduct large-scale military operations against serious opponents. In the current configuration The Marine Corps has exhausted its capabilities and cannot resist Russia and China, therefore, in the future, emphasis will be placed on compact, mobile troops that do not have heavy weapons.

I don’t understand ... The USA refuses to come to war?

[ccsr]

Quote: Honest Citizen

I don’t understand ... The USA refuses to come to war?

You focused on the wrong text, because the main point is this:

in future emphasis will be placed on compact, mobile troops that do not have heavy weapons.

If you translate this from the language of professionals, you can draw two conclusions:
1. the elimination of heavy weapons will dramatically increase the mobility of the marine corps, which could be used more often by aviation than the fleet to arrive at their destination.
2. The US military understood from the Syrian events the importance of Russian MTRs, and perhaps decided to follow the same path, focusing primarily on the mobility of combat units.
The most unpleasant thing for us is that the Americans have understood the importance of mobility in carrying out short-term combat operations, and some of our "theorists" are foaming at the mouth to argue that tank battalions are needed in the Airborne Forces. As the saying goes, “There are no vices in your homeland,” although Colonel VV Kvachkov predicted this tendency twenty years ago and became the theorist of the creation of the SSO in the Russian army, no one then wanted to listen to him.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: ccsr

The US military understood from the Syrian events the importance of Russian MTRs, and perhaps decided to follow the same path,

In fact, Russian MTRs were formed after a detailed acquaintance with the structure and activities of the US MTR.
The same can be said of PMCs.

[ccsr]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

In fact, Russian MTRs were formed after a detailed acquaintance with the structure and activities of the US MTR.

You just did not understand that the same name does not mean that structurally these forces resemble each other. In fact, our MTRs, unlike the American ones, are more compact, they are easier to manage, and they are imprisoned for some foreign operations that the GRU GS will plan, as I understand it.
And the number of our MTRs can not be compared with the number of US MTRs -

The number of personnel and soldiers subordinate to the Main Directorate of Special Operations Forces of the United States is about 60 thousand people,

If we proceed from the very idea of ​​creating MTRs, then, as I understand it, some parts of the special forces decided to withdraw from the district subordination and make them parts of central subordination, but the essence of their preparation is not much different from the Soviet brigades of special operations.

Quote: Captain Pushkin

The same can be said of PMCs.

It has nothing to do with the armed forces; in the USSR they did not do this.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: ccsr

Quote: Captain Pushkin
The same can be said of PMCs.

It has nothing to do with the armed forces; in the USSR they did not do this.

I did not write about the USSR.
PMCs are directly related to the armed forces. Do you think PMCs are independent entities?

[ccsr]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Do you think PMCs are independent entities?

Are you sure that they will be financed from the budget of the Ministry of Defense? If not, then nothing to talk about.

You can list the differences between the tasks of the US and Russian MTR

It is not a matter of tasks, but of what forces to use to solve them. American MTR even provides for the presence of such structures in different types of US armed forces, and our MTRs themselves are a structure of the armed forces that are not included in other types and types of armed forces:

Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - a structural unit of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the formation of which began in 2009 during the large-scale reform of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

And here is the answer to what basis our MTRs are created:

At the beginning of 2012, on the initiative of the Chief of the General Staff N.E. Makarov, the Special Operations Department was deployed to the Special Operations Forces Command (KSSO), with subsequent plans to increase MTR to nine special forces brigades and parallel increase in the number of district special subordination brigades

Do you know how the staff of the Special Forces Brigade differs from the states of the Airborne Division or Marine Regiment?

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: ccsr

Are you sure that they will be financed from the budget of the Ministry of Defense? If not, then nothing to talk about.

The budget of the Moscow Region and the PMC budgets have the same source of filling - the budget of the Russian Federation (or the United States and further on the list)
.

Quote: ccsr

It is not a matter of tasks, but of what forces to use to solve them.

It is all about the tasks to be solved, and the forces and means involved are a matter of taste.

Quote: ccsr

Do you know how the staff of the Special Forces Brigade differs from the states of the Airborne Division or Marine Regiment?

The differences between the states are due to the difference in the tasks to be solved. Elementary Watson.
With this we began the conversation.

[ccsr]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

The budget of the Moscow Region and the PMC budgets have the same source of filling - the budget of the Russian Federation (or the United States and further on the list)

This is a lie, and it is not clear why you are distributing it. PMC has nothing to do with the budget of Russia, because it is a commercial project.

The PMC Wagner itself does not appear in the law enforcement agencies or in the register of legal entities, and its fighters are absent in the formulary lists of personnel [18].

Quote: Captain Pushkin

The differences between the states are due to the difference in the tasks being solved.

Since there is even a state difference, then why did you say that we have been studying the American experience of the MTR for a long time when our Special Forces brigades were created about fifty years ago? Do you have little experience in the fighting of the two brigades in Afghanistan, or were you still unable to comprehend something to learn from the Americans?

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: ccsr

This is a lie, and it is not clear why you are distributing it. PMC has nothing to do with the budget of Russia, because it is a commercial project.

Do you really think that someone will allow the existence of an armed structure on the territory of the Russian Federation, unknown to someone funded and unknown to anyone subordinate?

Quote: ccsr

Since there is even a state difference, then why did you say that we have long studied the American experience of MTR

Do you think that if we studied something, we simply must blindly copy?
PS The further, the funnier and funnier ..

[ccsr]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Do you really think that someone will allow the existence of an armed structure on the territory of the Russian Federation

Private security companies are allowed in Russia. And where he will work under contracts, when it is not prohibited by law, his leadership will decide. But he does not receive money from the budget - this is a fact.
Otherwise, Russia could be blamed for the war against a sovereign state.

Quote: Captain Pushkin

The farther, the funnier and funnier ..

And it’s fun for me to listen to someone who wasn’t even close to the brigade checkpoint.

[Captain Pushkin]

[quote = ccsr] Private security companies are allowed in Russia. And where he will work under contracts, when it is not prohibited by law, his leadership will decide. But he does not receive money from the budget - this is a fact. [/ Quote]

For you, that PMCs and PSCs are one and the same? I won’t say anything for private security companies, and if the government of the Russian Federation acts as the customer for PMCs, then it finances its activities. And according to what articles they conduct, the third thing, the main thing is that the mosquito would not undermine the nose.

[quote = Captain Pushkin] The further, the funnier and more amusing .. [/ quote]
And it’s fun for me to listen to a man who wasn’t even close to the brigade checkpoint. [/ Quote]
He certainly didn’t stand by the brigade — he served in the battalion of district subordination.
Well, if your service was held at a brigade checkpoint, then I have no more questions.

[ccsr]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

For you, that PMCs and PSCs are one and the same?

In terms of legislation, it’s practically the same thing, because they have a license to use weapons.
It all depends on the region of use, and no more.

Quote: Captain Pushkin

I won’t say anything for private security companies, and if the government of the Russian Federation acts as the customer for PMCs, then it finances its activities.

Why should our state pay PMCs if they have their own armed forces?

Quote: Captain Pushkin

And according to what articles they conduct, the third thing, the main thing is that the mosquito would not undermine the nose.

Here you are mistaken - it is the budget that requires the adoption of a law on its spending, and it is unlikely that the state will want to introduce an article there to pay for PMCs - this will be a violation of financial discipline. And there will be many international stinks in case of failures.

Quote: Captain Pushkin

He certainly didn’t stand by the brigade — he served in the battalion of district subordination.

In the districts there were no battalions of special forces of district subordination, at least in Soviet times and later, so do not fantasize. If there were separate Squads, they were called squads, not battalions.

Quote: Captain Pushkin

I have no more questions.

It pleases - you should not pretend to be an expert in this topic.

[Captain Pushkin]

Oh, you are replicating your mistakes again, I thought I’ve calmed down.
I will not comment, neither I nor you need it.
I never wrote that he served in special forces.
To make it even harder to cheer, I add that he began his service in the military unit of direct submission to the General Staff, and only then he was relocated to where the good owner would not drive the dog out ..

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: ccsr

You just did not understand that the same name does not mean that structurally these forces resemble each other. In fact, our MTRs, unlike the American ones, are more compact, they are easier to manage, and they are imprisoned for some foreign operations that the GRU GS will plan, as I understand it.
And the number of our MTRs can not be compared with the number of US MTRs

Can you list the differences between the tasks of the US and Russian MTR?

[bayard]

This is a reallocation of resources. The US Army needs urgent rearmament. Moreover, in everything at once - they lagged behind China and Russia in the rearmament of their army. And it costs a lot of money. In addition, their ILC is still not capable of fighting the army of the Russian Federation and China.
The United States began to curtail its military presence in many parts of the world, primarily in Africa and Afghanistan, they would like (Trump) but so far they cannot leave Syria and Iraq ... But in Europe there is a pumping of forces and means ...
This is a regrouping.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Honest Citizen

I don’t understand ... The USA refuses to come to war?

Nope. They announced that from now on they will only fight with people with disabilities, dystrophics and other wretched people who are not able to give change (i.e. in the face).
The right way paced comrades. So, you see, the next crisis in the collection with a new infection will cross them into pacifists.

[Pavel Amarok]

That is, in fact, the United States "castrated" its own strike forces?

[Cyrus]

Not yet, but in 10 years, either a donkey will die or a padish.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Cyrus

for 10 years, either donkey will die or padish.

In short, everyone will die ...

[Dmitry Zverev]

Will form regiments of "unmanned marines". These drones will be armed with air-to-surface missiles and COVID-19 bats.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Dmitry Zverev

and bats with COVID-19.

The United States already had the experience of bacteriological warfare. Indians then smallpox poisoned. So what could change in the minds of the mattress elite such that it could change the methods of achieving their goals?

[Operator]

Colonial troops - return of the ILC to the roots

[Mavrikiy]

US Marine Corps will lose all heavy armored vehicles

Considering the experience of using ISIS and the experience of "fighting" it?

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

ISIS is just Obama's PMC. Press the Kurds off the oil, Assad’s pipe. Salary of 10 thousand per year. Georgians from Pankissi know.

[askort154]

... as the commander of the Marine Corps General David Berger stated, in the future, the U.S. ILC does not expect to conduct large-scale military operations against serious opponents.

And remind us, David, when the last time the U.S. ILC carried out large-scale military operations against a serious adversary one on one?!
Let me remind you - never!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: askort154

And remind us, David, when was the last time that the United States ILC carried out large-scale military operations against a serious enemy, one on one ?!
Let me remind you - never!

And not only the ILC, but the entire presidential army.

[Cyrus]

In fairness, then when we are in WWII.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Cyrus

In fairness, then when we are in WWII.

In which the World War the Red Army did not meet military operations against a serious enemy, one on one ?!
If you mean land lease, then you are very wrong.

[Cyrus]

I mean, the last time the war was with a serious adversary, both here and they had in WWII.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: askort154

when was the last time the United States ILC carried out large-scale military operations against a serious enemy, one on one ?!
Let me remind you - never!

Key words: "One on one" and "Never"

Quote: Cyrus

In fairness, then when we are in WWII.

https://m.fishki.net/1465970-spisok-vojn-ssha--istoricheskaja-hronologija.html
The United States has never fought with a serious adversary, and if it fought with someone, then with a seriously inferior one, and even then in a crowd with a "coalition".

[Alexey RA]

All seven tank units, as well as ships intended for tank transportation, will fall under the reduction. Instead of heavy armored vehicles, LAV-25 wheeled armored personnel carriers and ACV amphibious combat vehicles will be introduced, which will replace tracked landing vehicles (AAV) in the KMP.
The artillery batteries of 155 mm howitzers also fall under the reduction. Instead of the 21 batteries currently in service with the Marines, only 5 will remain at the end of the reform.

* conspiracy Teeth are pulled out from the presidential army. Do not shoot Trump from tanks at the Capitol now.

[knn54]

Why should the ILC "contain" the PRC and the Russian Federation?
These are quick reaction forces. In essence, an expeditionary army that is designed to operate on foreign territory. And they combine ALL the branches of the army.
For its own territory there is a National Guard.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: Round smesharik

They will be sitting at the consoles .. Well, well ..

There will be bespectacled batans on gaming chairs to sit and drive a tank for a thousand miles.
And what, he came to the service from the morning, until the evening he shot a bunch of barmaley from the tank and went home.
Not a service - a dream!

They need to be taught how to cut into the game Tanchiki. And edit it under the climatic conditions of not only the entire globe, but also Venus, Mars, Jupiter. To fight, so to fight !!!!!!!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Victor March 47

They need to be taught how to cut into the game Tanchiki.

There you need brains ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Vasyan1971

There you need brains ...

* recalls mouse rush through the robin field.

[Ros 56]

That's right, give them slingshots and that’s good at that, otherwise God forbid banging anyone by accident.

[Vasyan1971]

All seven tank units, as well as ships intended for tank transportation, will fall under the reduction.

There are no free tanks left for sale, because no one is making new ones?

It is planned to put into service ground-based launchers for Tomahawk cruise missiles.

Figase! Despite the fact that

in the future, emphasis will be placed on compact, mobile troops

.
Are they axes on the hump there, or in extreme cases, will they drag on cars? Pitching blacks, freed from the reduction of tanks, fit in?

[Galleon]

Maybe someone would recommend Donald to close the military labs around the world? To the heap? And then there is no benefit from them, except for harm ...

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Maybe torture is prohibited? And the corpses to the bottom of the Persian Gulf can not be disposed of?
Yes you, my friend, a sadist! The meaning of life among Americans is taken away ...

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Quote: Victor March 47

They need to be taught how to cut into the game Tanchiki.

There you need brains ...

That's good. So they won’t come out in real for a long time. Let them fight there and save their asses from a virtual enemy. There you can even reboot if you can’t do it. In real life you have to calculate your own skins. And it hurts.

[seacap]

The ILC is an expeditionary corps or rather colonial, and the words infantry (infantry) are not there, marine is more of a delivery method to overseas territories, a tribute to tradition, like armored cavalry units where there is not a single horse. Unlike traditional marine corps of other countries, the same England or Russia, completely different combat missions and assignment.

[voyaka uh]

The decision is wrong. Without tanks and self-propelled guns, any naval landing will be
destroyed. Moreover, the marines already have tank landing ships and amphibians.
They will be burned on some landing operation and they will return everything.

[albert]

This news is exactly the answer to yesterday’s article by Oleg Kaptsov. Does the Pentagon also read VO?