Trump called for the removal of restrictions due to coronavirus in the US after 15 days

The President of the United States made a statement unexpected for many Americans. According to the owner of the White House, there is no need to “finally quarantine”. Trump urged the Americans not to delay self-isolation and return to their normal work schedule after 15 days.

Trump noted that it is after 15 days that all restrictions that were introduced due to the coronavirus for the US economy should be lifted.
The president of the United States tweeted that a solution to a problem should not be worse in its consequences than the problem itself.

Earlier in the US it was reported that due to the suspension of many companies and enterprises, the US economy may face record losses over the past several decades. Trump understands that his political rivals can take advantage of this situation, and therefore calls for "not to abuse with quarantine measures."

Meanwhile, in the United States, the number of infected COVID-19 continues to grow rapidly. The United States is in third place in the world in the number of people infected with coronavirus - yesterday, more than 46 thousand people. Mortality in the United States for this disease is about 1,3%, however, the number of people who have recovered is still extremely small - only about fifty people (a percentage percentage). For comparison: in Italy, the mortality rate for COVID-19 is 9,5%, and the recovery rate is more than 11%. On the eve of Russia sent to Italy 10 transport boards with virologists, medical equipment and special equipment.

The World Health Organization has announced that the pace of spread of a new type of coronavirus in the world has risen sharply. The total number of infected on the planet exceeded a quarter of a million people.

Comments

[cniza]

Sooner or later, but the world will find out the truth and all those involved will be rewarded according to their deserts - this should be so, but how will it be? ...

[cniza]

I would not begin to develop this topic, and there are more than enough alarmists.

[EnGenius]

The panic will be if the USA overflows the second wave of the epidemic. Now, most likely, we are talking about returning to normal working conditions at enterprises, but not about completely curtailing quarantine measures. Therefore, it is likely that the United States will introduce a restriction on domestic civil air transport between states and prohibit tourist trips to countries that are now in the midst of an infectious outbreak.

[Constructor68]

There are two categories of durakov: one extreme alarmists, the other - haters. You seem from the second

[cniza]

You are a nice person, you watch yourself and do not blame others, but if you blame it is justified ...

[Constructor68]

And what should I take care of myself. I soberly look at the problem. There is an epidemic. It is necessary to fight it. Which is what governments do that have brains in their heads, not dollar bills. The Chinese are well done in this regard. All the rest of the balabol, who in their chatter about human values, gave a damn about the very value of human life.

[cniza]

Everything is clear about China, but how are we doing? , from your point of view, and in Iran ...

[Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations]

The world may or may not.
But I’ll wang that soon Trump in his usual style will notify the whole world via Twitter that the mighty USA defeated the coronavirus all over the planet! And everyone else: so ... stood aside ...

[EnGenius]

Rather, he will offer another 1-2% of GDP to go off to finance quarantine measures in the world. And the United States will not help anyone.

[iouris]

Quote: cniza

Sooner or later, but the world will know the truth

Doesn't know. Everything is too serious. Rather, the world will collapse. Trump promised to divulge the truth about the "9-11-1 attacks", in which everyone still believes. And did not make it public. As a construction magnate and as a professional builder, the official version of the destruction of skyscrapers did not suit him.
If Trump does not win the election due to the virus, then the virus is aimed at Trump.

[fif21]

Quote: iouris

If Trump does not win the election due to the virus, then the virus is aimed at Trump.

Controversial thesis. Properly conducted operation of special services using biological weapons. The epidemic began in China (it was beautifully framed, there is a biolaboratory in the vicinity of the city) Production in the PRC collapsed, the domino reaction pulled the global economy, where there is a decline, there is a collapse.

[iouris]

Quote: fif21

Who is in the plus is the initiator.

He who laughs the last laughs well (however, no one has the confidence that he will be the last). We will observe.
Perhaps no one will be in the black. It is believed that the capital will be re-counted, excess zeros will be crossed out, some will be multiplied by zero. All moves are recorded.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: fif21

Production in China collapsed

I heard a version that the pandemic and panic was organized precisely in order to bring the overheated Chinese economy down to earth. Moreover, the Chinese leadership was the same "in the subject."

[Simargl]

Quote: Ingvar 72

to lower the overheated Chinese economy from heaven to earth.

Happened? We rested a couple of weeks longer and continued to drive consumer goods with renewed vigor.
Well, Chinese masks and pyrometers are item No. 1,2 on Ali ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Simargl

Got it?

Time will tell.

[Simargl]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: Simargl

Got it?

Time will tell.

Those. Both statements are too early to do. But they restored 95% of production.

[Keyser soze]

Who is in the plus is the initiator.

Just find one - Goldman Sachs forecasts reach -20,6% down for US GDP ....

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Buldozer

Do not dig the United States, another hole, you yourself will fall into it .. Clean up your biological laboratories ..

I'm not a fan of the United States, but throwing off the responsibility without having the PROOF in hand! stupid. Then the American and European media write that Russia is spreading fakes about the coronavirus, when a crowd of "experts" have already found the culprit in the face of the Americans ... then where is the evidence? or some unfounded accusations? There is an article below about the development of a virus in 2015 in American chemical laboratories, but why then do they not write about a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan, where they did the same? biased, our genome has decoded the coronavirus in general, the source is natural and all conspiracy theories are untenable, so there are a lot of versions, but no one really knows anything. And if I choose, then I would rather believe our scientists than the conspiracy theory writers on the Internet.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Aleksandr21

then the question is where is the evidence?

What goes around comes around.
They don’t bother with evidence, and I don’t understand why not whip them with gloves on the tinsel to a purely high-likly.
Although the preconditions for the charges are:
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Gray Brother

What goes around comes around.
They don’t bother with evidence, and I don’t understand why not whip them with gloves on the tinsel to a purely high-likly.
Although the preconditions for the charges are:
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/

Prerequisites, prerequisites, but if you look at the situation that is happening now, then most of all from this situation with coronavirus China will benefit. Coronavirus accelerated the decline of American globalization and the transfer of the center of influence of China. The United States has shut itself off from the whole world in the fight against this epidemic, while China, on the contrary, has led this process. Now it is a matter of time before the EU finally turns its back on the United States and turns to China. And nothing about the rest of the world, almost all of Asia and Africa are connected by economic contacts with China. Therefore, reading all these versions so that the United States decided to bang its economy and its integration processes with the transfer of power to China, it is difficult to believe Washington’s hand with this coronavirus. And so we are sure that the virus itself mutated without any help ... so I will stick to the official version until they prove the opposite.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Therefore, reading all these versions so that the United States decided to bang its economy and its integration processes with the transfer of power to China, it is difficult to believe in Washington’s hand with this coronavirus.

The Americans have always worked clumsily and are quite capable of stepping on their own rake. Swollen conceit contributes to this.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Therefore, reading all these versions so that the United States decided to bang its economy and its integration processes with the transfer of power to China, it is difficult to believe in Washington’s hand with this coronavirus.

And also say that you are not a fan of the USA ...

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Tank Hard

And also say that you are not a fan of the USA ...

And where do you see the contradiction in the quote? For example, I hardly believe that the United States released a virus to finish off its economy and integration processes with the EU + the economic connection between the USA and China is bilateral considering their trade, but this does not mean that I am on the American side here, just an analysis of the situation, if something do not agree, you can give your arguments.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Aleksandr21

, just an analysis of the situation, if you do not agree with something, then you can give your arguments.

I have already cited, and more than once, I'm probably tired of many, and what movie to watch, and think after watching. But some do not want to look or think, but have their own "reinforced concrete opinion" and consider themselves to be analysts from God, and if they looked, thought and all did not agree that the US was involved, it means, apparently, US fans.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Tank Hard

I have already cited, and more than once, I'm probably tired of many, and what movie to watch, and think after watching. But some do not want to look or think, but have their own "reinforced concrete opinion" and consider themselves to be analysts from God, and if they looked, thought and all did not agree that the US was involved, it means, apparently, US fans.

With you everything is clear, the main evil on the planet of the United States from him all the troubles (c) I guess? Well, as regards the coronavirus, one should consider not personal likes / dislikes in relation to other countries, but concrete evidence. Today, there are no facts of the United States' involvement in this coronavirus, neither Russia nor China has provided them, and if some "experts" on the network raise their rating due to the accusations of the Americans, then purely due to such patriots as you who hate the United States. Specifically, if the Americans are really involved in this, then you need to collect evidence, make it public and try to bring the United States to justice, it doesn't matter if it doesn't work, at least all countries will look at this evidence and draw conclusions, this will be a real step to expose the Americans, if the US is really involved in this. And so ours have already stated that the virus is of natural origin, from China, too, there are no accusations at the official level (the twitter of the Chinese representative who wrote something about the involvement of the United States in the calculation can not be taken into account, this is a personal point of view and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the PRC then position that the state is not involved in this). And it turns out that the COVID-19 virus is just a mutated SARS virus that originally appeared in China in 2002.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Everything is clear with you, the main evil on the US planet is it from me all the troubles (c) I guessed?

This is all clear to you, lover of the United States.

[fif21]

Quote: Aleksandr21

if you don’t agree with something, you can give your arguments.

Who is the # 1 competitor in the economy for the United States? China. Who is the "bone in the throat" for the United States in Asia? Iran. Who fails to meet mattress requirements in politics and economics? EU. Whom do they spread rot with sanctions? Russia. And answer the question, who benefits from the epidemic?

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: fif21

Who is the # 1 competitor in the economy for the United States? China. Who is the "bone in the throat" for the United States in Asia? Iran. Who fails to meet mattress requirements in politics and economics? EU. Whom do they spread rot with sanctions? Russia. And answer the question, who benefits from the epidemic?

Although China is a competitor but also the largest trade partner of the United States, problems in the economy will begin, China will start having problems for the whole world, this is a fact. Iran and a "bone in the throat", but at the same time, the coronavirus somehow bypassed North Korea, and in Russia the statistics on the number of infected are very low compared to Europe, and the EU is a huge sales market where Americans sell their products. The picture doesn't fit, does it? I do not believe in anything that Italy, as one of the centers of infection, posed a threat to the United States. And what is happening now in the global economy can not be called a crisis, is such a crisis beneficial for the United States? the answer is no. Is this hype about coronavirus profitable for speculators and bears in the market? Yes. But this crisis itself has several layers, so to speak ... I will explain what we see in the world now? The fact that the United States closed itself off from the whole world and left it to the mercy of the EU, and then China comes to the aid of Europe, who is asleep and sees how to squeeze the United States and take the place of the hegemon, in Asia and Africa the Chinese have already bypassed the United States, implementing their project of a new Silk Road, and here and the EU market will go to the Chinese. In fact, there is a replacement of the world leader in the world, is such an alignment of the United States beneficial if viewed from this point of view? And even then, not to mention the consequences for the US economy itself, it is not yet known whether they will be able to take control of the situation with coronavirus at home in a short time. They are already in 3rd place in the world for infected, 1st place is only a matter of time.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: fif21

And answer the question, who benefits from the epidemic?

In the long run, China will benefit most from this crisis. The position of the Americans was seriously shaken by this coronavirus in Europe, it certainly won’t lead to the collapse of globalization, but there will be a replacement for the leader, this process went on and on, but it accelerated many times with this coronavirus. In general, of course, a strange situation occurred when the United States logically had to lead the world community against COVID-19 and be the saviors of the world, and then they closed themselves off and threw their colonies into the arms of China, which took the place of the United States. And not to mention the increasing role of Russia in Europe.

[Tank hard]

Quote: fif21

And answer the question, who benefits from the epidemic?

I will write under your comment, because the individual is under a nickname

Aleksandr21 (Alexander)

I'm just disgusted.
In 2019, a documentary film "Hammarskjold's Lost Cause" was released. In this film, Danish director Mads Bruegger and private detective from Sweden Geran Bjerkdal try to find out the cause of death of UN Secretary General Dag Hammarskjold (he was a supporter of self-determination of the former African colonies, where corporations ruled the show, because it is known how rich Africa is in natural resources). with even more monstrous crimes, for example, they go to a secret organization that has created biological weapons to destroy or at least reduce the number of African black people, now we know this thing as HIV-AIDS. Throughout the film, the British special services and specifically such a service as the CIA run like a red thread ... We watch the film, absorb information, recall Trump's threats to punish China, Wuhan with
the laboratory where the Americans were present (attention of all countries where similar laboratories are located!), the military operation of China around the city (leak, leak organized by someone, the virus was introduced, there are options, but the US is present for anyone). Then follows a statement from China about involvement USA to all this. Thereafter some(

Aleksandr21 (Alexander)

), Pompeo and others) are trying to convince us that this is not the United States. Apparently the Martians are to blame!

[Gray brother]

I inserted an incomplete address.
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5731713.html

[axiles100682]

Then what are you better than them?

[Gray brother]

Quote: axiles100682

Then what are you better than them?

I have a rather nasty character and I do not have to be better than them.

[regdan]

Urgently send humanitarian aid from Russia to the USA ...

[Ren]

Quote: regdan

Urgently send humanitarian aid from Russia to the USA ...

Delivery is ensured by means of Topol, Yars, Clubs and other Vanguards with special warheads.

[bessmertniy]

You can not send anything there. The territory of the United States will be cleared without our help.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: regdan

Urgently send humanitarian aid from Russia to the USA ...

Fill them with bleach on the roof of the highest skyscraper and let them disinfect along with coronovirus and democracy.

[Dreamboat]

The US economy is a bubble, the main share of which is domestic consumption due to external financial injections. The collapse of the service sector within the country will lead to very sad consequences for the entire economy. Therefore, the United States is ready to sacrifice people to save the dollar. That's all "democracy"!

[Kisa]

the direction of thought is correct, but probably here it’s not about the dollar. 70% of the population who in the entertainment services sector live without savings and on credit. and how much they will stretch without a salary for 1 thousand per person? when there will be nothing to eat, people will be ready for everything; sales of weapons to the population in 3 weeks increased 2 times. military equipment is already being moved closer to megacities .... they don’t have such a thing as a potato garden like ours. Doctors give a very poor prognosis of distribution for this week. here the choice is not great to be ill and how there God will give or uncontrolled chaos will begin and until the fall when the antivirus promise the situation may get out of control ...... but for now we see critical acceleration

[Gray brother]

Quote: regdan

Urgently send humanitarian aid from Russia to the USA ...

They have already taken their humanitarian aid out of Italy.

[Tank hard]

Quote: regdan

Urgently send humanitarian aid from Russia to the USA ...

It is advisable to send liberals there, they will help there.

[cniza]

The president of the United States tweeted that a solution to a problem should not be worse in its consequences than the problem itself.

Clever and correct thoughts ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

Clever and correct thoughts ...

The main thing is to carry out the right actions ... but you can talk, you can even write.

[bessmertniy]

Let the virus tremble - Trump punished him for 15 days!

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

The main thing is to carry out the right actions ... but you can talk, you can even write.

With this, Trump is not very, and not only him ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

With this, Trump is not very, and not only him ...

That's right. it’s not easy to understand who has everything! And those who don’t have much, you can make lists and hang them on the wall ...
however, it’s not the end ...

Quote: bessmertniy

Let the virus tremble - Trump punished him for 15 days!

if you think about the virus for all sorts of Wishlist everyone and everything, deeply and specifically do not care ...
let's see how it goes further!
Here we have one comrade. He went over the hill and pushed himself to work ... they turned, of course, to quarantine! but he really didn’t want to understand anything

[cniza]

Unfortunately, there are such "comrades" everywhere ...

[rocket757]

Well, yes, they are escaping from quarantine!
I survived two cholera epidemics in the USSR .... I lived opposite the boarding school, where everyone who quarantined fell in ... there was a good fence, the police checked, but the people didn’t run at all. maximum, they asked to bring them .... Throat than wet, throw over the fence.
And so, 21 days to sit and not rock the boat.

[cniza]

Yes, I also got there once, 40 days in quarantine with suspected typhoid ...

[rocket757]

And typhus, where it was possible to catch it ... Iran, Mongolia, Afghanistan ... I don’t remember anything else like that. Although it was brought from Africa, it was very exotic, which we forgot to think about!

[Ren]

Quote: bessmertniy

Let the virus tremble - Trump punished him for 15 days!

This is hooliganism! Get 15 days!
Please note, I will complain!

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: rocket757

The main thing is to carry out the right actions

So he already did it - he let the epidemic unfold, brought down the economy simply "at its peak", declared quarantine (and the epidemic is still gaining momentum), and at the peak of the incidence rate - to cancel it !!!
Sorry for the Americans. I won’t be surprised if they also bring lawsuits against China for spreading the virus ...

[rocket757]

Eugene
They were there over the hill, especially over the ocean, they felt very comfortable, chuckled at everyone ... yeah, but the virus didn’t know that it was exceptional !!!
Now it rushed ... a bump over the bump! and the bumps there, as it turns out, are more than enough and this despite the fact that this is not such a killer disease, not a couple of Spanish women, for example.
Just an assumption, the epidemic will pass, not thanks to efforts from above, but because it will gather its harvest and lie wherever ... the main thing is what conclusions will follow! it’s too early to talk about the consequences.

[Malyuta]

Quote: rocket757

The main thing is to carry out the right actions ... but you can talk, you can even write.

Somehow an important event passed unnoticed, Russia lifted counter-sanctions against the West.

[rocket757]

Quote: Malyuta

Somehow an important event passed unnoticed, Russia lifted counter-sanctions against the West.

Which ones? Do we have parmesan, jamon and Polish apples in every store now? Riga and other canned food? Where, when and sho?

[Malyuta]

Quote: rocket757

Which ones? Do we have parmesan, jamon and Polish apples in every store now? Riga and other canned food? Where, when and sho?

Decisions on the temporary lifting of restrictions on the import of customs essential goods.
Mishustin covered up the lifting of counter-sanctions against the West with a fig leaf

Mishustin covered up the actual abolition of counter-sanctions against the West with a fig leaf of a decision on the temporary lifting of restrictions on the import of customs essential goods. The list of such goods includes not only hygiene products and medicines, the lack of which is not hidden, but also food. It is noteworthy that until recently, the former prime minister liked to talk about sanctions - counter-sanctions: they say that we did not introduce them, it is not for us to cancel. In the “peace” time, top-level calls were also made by domestic manufacturers, periodically asking the country's leadership not to lift the embargo introduced in 2014 even if Western sanctions were lifted: it was understood that import substitution had already reached its design capacity and fully provided for the needs of a sovereign consumer. However, it seems that the coronavirus in a package with low oil prices made adjustments to the situation, such that Mishustin had to work on the wording so as not to immediately overwhelm the Russians with a unilateral refusal to confront external partners in the sanctions sphere.

From tomorrow in the Russian Federation for a month restrictions on the supply of essential goods, including customs, are canceled - Mishustin

[Gray brother]

Quote: Malyuta

Somehow an important event passed unnoticed, Russia lifted counter-sanctions against the West.

I heard about a damaged phone. What’s wrong with you?

MOSCOW, Mar 23 - RIA News. The idea of ​​lifting restrictions on Russia against the backdrop of the global economic situation and the spread of coronavirus is worthy of attention, but it all depends on Western partners, Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

"The idea itself, of course, deserves attention. Now, when we are faced with such a tense moment from the point of view of the international economic situation, from the point of view of the situation related to energy prices, with such a provocative trigger in the form of coronavirus, of course, such restrictions only exacerbate Therefore, the idea, of course, deserves attention. But everything depends on the known capitals, "Peskov said in response to a question about the possibility on both sides to nullify the sanctions in the current situation.

When asked to clarify whether Moscow will be the first to unilaterally take such steps to lift the sanctions, the Kremlin spokesman stressed: "I do not know that such unilateral steps are being prepared, and I do not know that it is considered appropriate."

[Malyuta]

Quote: Gray Brother

I heard about a damaged phone. What’s wrong with you?

Spoiled Mishustin))))
"Decree on the temporary lifting of restrictions on the import of customs essential goods. The list of such goods includes not only hygiene products and medicines, the shortage of which is not hidden, but also food."
Bye for a month.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Malyuta

Bye for a month.

Found only this:

This is reported by the Cabinet on Twitter. “From March 20, for a month, all restrictions on the supply of essential goods are canceled. A “green corridor” is being introduced for importers and large retail chains. A zero rate of customs duty is set for the import of a number of goods, including medicines and medical devices, ”the statement said.

Nothing is said about sanctioned goods. Removed customs duties on import and all.

[rocket757]

Quote: Malyuta

"Decree on temporary lifting of restrictions

If by the principle - There is nothing more permanent than temporary ... - then you can speculate, and so, for a month. Specific measures, for a specific period ... if it is delayed, then OH, but for now, NO.
By the way, what exactly do we need from there ???
About counter-sanctions have already been discussed a hundred times, nothing new will happen in a short time span, then WHAT IS THE TALK ABOUT? or is it just blah - blah, for the sake of blah?

[Ka-52]

Clever and correct thoughts ..

What is cleverness and correctness? That a large part of the population will accelerate to go to another world? Are you ready to accept this for your next of kin?

a solution to a problem should not be worse in its consequences than the problem itself.

Do you think that the death of 3 million citizens is better than the ruin of 3 million entrepreneurs?
Namely, this is the position of the US government now. They are inclined to the decision when it is not necessary to contain the coronavirus, let them all get sick and they can live on (with the exception of a few million who were unlucky). But capitalism does not even consider such sacrifices to be losses. And you can be understood if you have your own "candle" factory in the Arizona region, and you yourself live on your own island in Polynesia.

[cniza]

What is cleverness and correctness?

The fact (this does not need to be tied only to the current situation) is that sometimes actions to solve a problem lead to an even worse result.

[Ka-52]

The fact (this does not need to be tied only to the current situation) is that sometimes actions to solve a problem lead to an even worse result.

frank nonsense. It is necessary not to become attached to the current situation, but to forecast its development by orders of magnitude ahead. Any leader should have this quality. The second advantage is risk weighting. If in the forecast you see the risks of collapse and the extinction of some not a small part of your citizens, then I think you should think about it seriously.
And to moo about the fact that all this is a panic and conspiracy of the freemasons is the business of emptyheads, bloggers (hunting for hype) and politicians. Although the latter have now tightened their tails, because most of them are at risk

lead to even worse results.

Do you seriously think that removing quarantine and stopping to take preventive measures will calm the economy ?????? Are you seriously?
Do you seriously think that the massive incidence of the population will remain unnoticed for the economy? How old are you, Victor?

[cniza]

Turn on your head, I don’t think anything, especially since I’m not a specialist in virology and I can’t evaluate actions. I’m saying that if as a result of actions a lot more people die, then these actions were criminal. I am talking about thought, not about action in this particular situation.

[Ka-52]

I’m saying that if more people die as a result of actions

what actions? Once again I ask the question: the ruin of a million entrepreneurs is more important for you personally than the death of a million citizens from infection?
I'm not trying to invent. I take the simplest statistics known to everyone:
the population of the Russian Federation is 140 million.
coronovirus contagiousness - 0,7
it turns out that in the complete absence of preventive, preventive measures in the Russian Federation will become infected 98mln.
mortality from this virus is different - from 1.7% (China) to 7.1% (Italy). But take a modest 2.5%. Total only in Russia will suddenly die 2,5 млн citizens. And fast enough. For the United States, this figure is 2 times higher.
I do not think correctly? Correct meif you think it will be different. Moreover, a modest figure of 2,5% mortality is good only when health care copes with the flow of patients. How much do you say with us? reserve of free hospital beds in each of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation? I think this figure is around zero. Building infectious hospitals in the spirit of Chinese Wuhan? With our mess in the construction of more than doubtful hope.

[cniza]

Sorry, I’m talking about the round, and you are telling me something hot ...

[Ka-52]

Sorry, I’m talking about the round, and you are telling me something hot ...

Trump spoke about steps towards lowering quarantine measures and weakening prohibited measures. That is the meaning of his phrase. You approved Trump’s desire. Where is round and where is hot? Or you yourself don’t understand in what support trump?
I wrote above that the Americans began to adhere to the quarantine reduction program, because they realized that they could not keep the epidemic. Therefore, they believe that it is better for everyone to get sick and live on. Someone will die, someone will survive. Cruel, but such is life. Is this position close to you too? In Russia and China, the program is different - maximum quarantine in an attempt to contain the infection. It helped in China. In the Russian Federation it is not yet known - we are still at the start.

[Krasnodar]

Trump voiced what Russia and Israel are already doing - Russian courts (there is no reception of citizens, only cases of arrest / release are being considered) and schools are not working until April 11, Jews who took tougher measures are likely to cancel them after 16 th (end of Passover holiday).
And yes - the loss of jobs, wages, the source of income of entire families will have disastrous consequences for the country as a whole.

[Ka-52]

If the dynamics continues to increase, then surely the restraining measures will be extended. The economy will experience a deep peak in any of the scenarios. Therefore, it is simply pointless to make a choice about applying or not applying quarantine for the sake of the economy.

[Krasnodar]

The progressing incidence of COVID-19 will not bring losses approaching increased quarantine.

[Ka-52]

The progressing incidence of COVID-19 will not bring losses approaching increased quarantine.

loss from morbidity compared with losses from quarantine? such a modern Nazism. The Nazis also in concentration camps translated the death of people into economic categories: the amount of soap, hair, dentures ....
Have you learned such a worldview in Israel or brought it with you?

[Krasnodar]

Demagogy
I am in Russia - about Israel, in which I was lucky to live 25 years:
The attitude towards people there is many times better than in the Russian Federation and was in the USSR. And as for the rest of the crap - unlike the bulk of the countries of the world, Jews do not have diplomatic relations with countries with parties legalized by the Nazis - such as Lebanon and Syria.
Now in the case - the consequences of economic collapse will take much more lives than the current coronavirus.

[Ka-52]

The attitude towards people there is many times better than in the Russian Federation and was in the USSR.

let's start chewing on the familiar topic "and there the pensions are higher and the sausage is cheaper." You are like an old graveyard horse - you only know one way. Just don't start voting right away - I'm not discussing Israel and not its national policy, but YOUR personal statement and attitude in essence.

Now in the case - the consequences of economic collapse will take much more lives than the current coronavirus.

purely out of the air statement taken. Justify directly in numbers

[Krasnodar]

Another "master of life" with me on you
And they began to discuss my statement with an analysis of my Israeli origin)).
I substantiate - the economic decline causes the impoverishment of the population. The impoverishment of the population increases crime. An increase in the level of crime entails an additional burden on the law enforcement system, which, due to the economic crisis, remains the same size. The result is mortality from crime, an extreme deterioration in the economic situation, followed by the collapse of the healthcare system and the rule of law, and as a result, Welcome Back to 90s. Find yourself mortality statistics of the 90s?

[Constructor68]

That is, you do not foresee in your large-scale economic analysis that if quarantine measures are not taken, then the virus will resolve itself, without causing a human population or the economy a single percent of the damage? it's interesting what place do people think when they say something like that? Obviously not head

[Krasnodar]

Are you a virologist, I suppose? )))
Ok - let's say this: quarantine measures can be of a different nature - quarantine for people over 65, say, years old - is justified! Subject to the supervision of these people at home of the state health structures, the organization of the delivery of medicines, food, etc. It’s easy to bungle, jobs - ADD.
The health system, the collapse of which due to the pandemic, we are all so afraid of - UNLOAD.
Quarantine ala Israel - everything is closed except for prod. Magazov - justified for a short period of time. Catering can get out thanks to home delivery, I don’t know the rest. Commercial real estate will be covered, a lot of bankrupt, etc.
Therefore, everywhere you need to think and choose a middle ground, and not chop off your shoulder. Otherwise, we get pandemics and economic collapse.

[Constructor68]

Are you a virologist, I suppose? )))

I am a programmer. And I probably have the ability to think rationally. And here you are drawing pink elephants. It’s even funny to read such babble from a person who identifies himself as an adult. You will return to earth from your fantasies. What limited quarantine are you talking about? The quarantine must either be total or none. Either the epidemic is blocked, localized in the foci and suppressed, or everything goes down the brakes, the population is given the opportunity to get sick and develop immunity on their own. Do not write nonsense about limited measures only for older citizens. When a rampant uncontrolled epidemic of your old people begins, no one will simply heal. As it happened in Italy. They simply do not have enough space, no strength, no money.

[Krasnodar]

Enough for mine
Unlimited quarantine How do you imagine?

[Kisa]

reasonable reasoning. but for some reason, the Americans have the lowest percentage of people who have recovered and at the end of the month the result may be worse than in Italy ... how voters will react to this congress ... on the other hand, the masses of people can get out of control with a bunch of weapons in their hands if armageddon with rampant unemployment last longer than a couple of months

[Fishery]

the life expectancy of Russians is less than that of Italians, therefore they will die less, pensioners are less socially active, therefore they will die less, they will be diagnosed with ARVI in the regions, therefore they will die less)))) but of course there is something to be afraid of. won GDP has already been noted in a protective suit, and military doctors in Italy in gauze dressings, but they are younger of course)

[den3080]

Quote: cniza

The president of the United States tweeted that a solution to a problem should not be worse in its consequences than the problem itself.

Clever and correct thoughts ...

Here I am also for.
Of course, it is necessary to fight the virus, but if the consequences of such a struggle are total impoverishment, unemployment, hunger and other delights, then it is better to think with your head first than drive everyone into quarantine, especially since being at home with periodic visits to grocery stores is not quarantine, from the word in general! and home delivery of food is by no means a quarantine.
And it’s a pity for the elderly: I watched through the box, as new Timurovites with plastic bags “burst” with them ...
This has nothing to do with quarantine and looks almost a mockery of old people, in my opinion.
How many older people will these volunteers get around in a day? 10-20-30? more?
What will they bring on their clothes / shoes, on bags, in their hands to the unfortunate old people who have already sat at home and are sitting without any coronaviruses?
Well, if not coronavirus, so something else, MANDATORY, young Timurovs will bring
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[cniza]

Of course it is necessary to fight the virus, but if the consequences of such a struggle are total impoverishment, unemployment, hunger

The chain needs to be continued and much more deaths ...

[den3080]

Quote: cniza

Of course it is necessary to fight the virus, but if the consequences of such a struggle are total impoverishment, unemployment, hunger

The chain needs to be continued and much more deaths ...

Potentially yes. But hysteria is also not necessary.
Reasonable, in my unenlightened view, is the restriction of passenger flows (airplanes, trains), the abolition of mass events, and, if possible, the self-restriction of physical (contact) communication with other people. And this is done and continues to be done. The government is working and seems to be doing well, clearly.
But call it quarantine - the language does not turn.
Self-isolation is a suitable term, and then how it goes.

[cniza]

Hysteria and panic are worse than the virus itself.

[Gray brother]

Quote: cniza

The chain needs to be continued and much more deaths ...

Yes, they don’t really care. Not everyone has a medical insurance.
In the United States, a woman was presented with a test and treatment bill for coronavirus at $ 34,927.43
Proof:
https://time.com/5806312/coronavirus-treatment-cost/?amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

[rocket757]

Trump urged the Americans not to delay self-isolation and return to their normal work schedule after 15 days.

What is it like? Why? incomprehensibly.

[cniza]

There is an election campaign, and the Trump show is a man, he likes to show off ..., he thinks that the virus obeys him.

[rocket757]

There will be a big show ... only without spectators in the hall, everyone will hide in holes. For the strip, this is something new to come! We will see.

[cniza]

Yes, how much more unknown we will see and learn.

[rocket757]

We find out ... though, this is not the most desirable version of recognition.

[cniza]

But this is not for us to determine, it has fallen on our age ...

[rocket757]

So far, in general, this is not the worst ... the boom is hoping that it will not be worse.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

... the boom is hoping that it will be worse and will not.

I'd like to believe in it ...

[Mytholog]

As the saying goes: "Nefig! Work - who will?"
Spit on people's health, the health of the economy is more important)

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Mytholog

As the saying goes: "Nefig! Work - who will?"
Spit on people's health, the health of the economy is more important)

To live, people need to eat a little ..

[Mytholog]

Quote: Krasnodar

To live, people need to eat a little ..

My answer is a commonplace banality: And in order to live in an emergency, people unite and create a state.
Which in the person of Trump - admitted to powerlessness.
State Reserve? Emergency reserve? Nope)

[Krasnodar]

In powerlessness before what, excuse me? )))

[Gray brother]

Quote: Mytholog

Emergency reserve? Nope)

There is stock.

[Mytholog]

There is stock.

I mean, half a million plastic coffins?
It is unlikely to be enough if the starter culture goes according to the Italian scenario.
But, as a result, we again return to the original message of the discussion:
"The health of the economy is more important" in their case.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Mytholog

"The health of the economy is more important" in their case.

So these coffins are not single.

[CAT BAIYUN]

Trump called for the removal of restrictions due to coronavirus in the US after 15 days

What difference does Trump call for? The virus doesn't give a damn about it ....

a solution to a problem should not be worse in its consequences than the problem itself.

Did he understand what he said? What difference does it cost to solve a problem if the problem is not resolved?
She will stay. No? Am I mistaken?
Well, if you consider the issue not from the point of view of humanism, ...
... well, a part of the population in the USA will die out. What part? Very necessary for the economy? Nah ...
They will get rid of old people who do not have the means to pay, so to speak from "ballast".
And, if we continue to promote the country as a paradise, then they will still come — there is no problem.
So the retention of financial indicators is more important than the loss among the ordinary population from the disease.
Yes .... and the stock exchange is in the red ... But that's okay. Periodic "row cleaning" will not hurt ....
That is, as I see it, this situation does not particularly depress anyone holding power in the States. They find in it advantages for themselves. On the rest - yes they put it on everyone else. For them, society is like a can with ants. And for a long time.

[Amateur]

in Italy, the mortality rate according to COVID-19 is 9,5%, and the recovery rate is over 11%.

9,5% + 11% = 20,5%. 100% -20,5% = 79,5% And these 79 with a tail of Italians where did they go? In a state of illness? What time? Or in perpetual quarantine? If out of 100% of cases, 9.5% are fatal, then 91.5% should recover. Again problems with arithmetic.

[bessmertniy]

The ratio of recovered to deceased is very close. Therefore, the fate of those still ill is very disturbing. If more than 6000 have already died, then you can estimate how many more of these 79,5% will die.

[dzvero]

There is a hitch, I myself did not fully believe, but last night I saw it personally on TV. The "chief doctors" said that a runny nose, cough, fever is not a reason to do a virus test or go to the hospital. You can go to the hospital only if you already inhale every other time and always on an ambulance; self-propelled is excluded. Those. flu is common, hyped ... how can you not believe that the virus is a screen for something more.

[Region-25.rus]

Quote: regdan

Urgently send humanitarian aid from Russia to the USA ...

sent already, a squadron from the Baltic. When he and the blockade suffocated British. And what paid off?

[Olya Tsako]

How many diplomats from the USA and Great Britain, around the world, should be sent for the worldwide distribution of COVID-19 in response to the mythical, planned, so-called fake poisoning of the Skripals?
For tens, yet, thousands of dead and dead?

[Mavrikiy]

Could not sit on the island?

The president of the United States tweeted that a solution to a problem should not be worse in its consequences than the problem itself.

Well done here. If you get sick, you should not eat a ton of medicine.

[Operator]

The United States is switching to the British model for responding to coronavirus - to give infections the opportunity to infect as many of the population as possible to develop immunity (an economic bonus is the mass mortality among older people and people with chronic diseases to reduce the cost of paying pensions and health insurance).

[rotmistr60]

The fall of the American economy, the increase in the number of unemployed are a clear obstacle to being elected for a second term, which means that in this situation, quarantine can also be sacrificed. I don’t know which is worse - a fall in the economy or a real general epidemic, which will still pull the economy down. Let them decide for themselves. But maybe what is happening today and will happen tomorrow will finally knock the United States out of the world leadership. Today, even Europe has realized that for the United States obligations and the word "ally" is an empty phrase (as well as for the EU), the main thing is to survive at the expense of others and still try to cash in on this (an attempt to buy out the developments of a German company).

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Quote: Buldozer

Do not dig the United States, another hole, you yourself will fall into it .. Clean up your biological laboratories ..

I'm not a fan of the United States, but throwing off the responsibility without having the PROOF in hand! stupid. Then the American and European media write that Russia is spreading fakes about the coronavirus, when a crowd of "experts" have already found the culprit in the face of the Americans ... then where is the evidence? or some unfounded accusations? There is an article below about the development of a virus in 2015 in American chemical laboratories, but why then do they not write about a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan, where they did the same? biased, our genome has decoded the coronavirus in general, the source is natural and all conspiracy theories are untenable, so there are a lot of versions, but no one really knows anything. And if I choose, then I would rather believe our scientists than the conspiracy theory writers on the Internet.

It’s nice to pin the author, who contradicts himself in three lines. There is no evidence that the penguins did this, but is there any fact that the Chinese did the same?
Then the evidence that the virus was put on the table in Wuhan. Kohl, there is evidence.

Someone versed in any business, and especially in microbiology, it should be known that in order to learn how to deal with viruses, and indeed with diseases, you need to have them in your laboratories. In the form of precisely defined strains. With precisely known characteristics. How can you fight the serpent Gorynych when he is not near you?
There are times when the infection breaks out of the tubes into the wild. No one can give a guarantee of 100%.
What am I doing? Yes to that. that this case can be anywhere, and without any malicious intent. Wherever, even in penguin. And there is most likely. Why? Yes, because. that the volume of drug production in the world, not for China, and not for Russia. And for production, they first conduct research.

[Nychego]

Trump urged the Americans not to delay self-isolation and return to their normal work schedule after 15 days.

A perfectly normal statement.
People go to self-isolation, with the suspicion that they could become infected with a coronovirus, and Trump simply informed his Twitter readers that if you did not show symptoms of KOVID19 syndrome after 15 days, then there was no infection with the virus.

Gentlemen, the propagandists are once again in a hurry to defect their own organisms with masses with high moisture content, while forgetting to take off their pants. Use them.

[orionvitt]

the solution to the problem should not be worse in its consequences than the problem itself

Wow oh you Like American. Better people die than the economy will shake. It will fall anyway. That's just another couple of trillions of dollars will be printed, to fill the economy, so that Trump could hold out until November, there, although the grass does not grow.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Sun Chaser

in an American way to give out to everyone $ 1000, about which on this site they stubbornly do not want to write

Eka is not seen, the same is news to me. Firstly, everyone in the subject knows about it. Secondly, Trump said that for 1000, and even for schoolchildren for 800, only two months later if the situation does not improve. He is a politician, he knows that the main thing is to promise. And thirdly, from which bins? They’ll scrape along the gophers? No, again, at the expense of the printing press, thereby further inflating its economy with unsecured air. When it bursts, then we’ll see how circles go around the world.

[sagitch]

If you die after 65 from this damned virus, almost all the elderly begin to die, you will still have to lower the retirement age.

[askort154]

Meanwhile, in the United States, the number of infected COVID-19 continues to grow rapidly. The United States is in third place in the world in the number of coronavirus infected ...

This is from the American media. Who will confirm or deny this data?
China - openly blamed that the virus was brought by the US military participating in the competition! USA - it’s been passed by. No refutation attempted.
Today, Trump says that in 15 days the United States will remove the restrictions. Why so fast? Were there any infected people in the USA?
The conclusion suggests itself. The US has tested a new type of weapon -
"informational biological".
When we offered "help" to China, he refused. Then our Defense Ministry landed its large "chemical defense landing" in Italy. We need to probe this virus with our "fingers", develop an antipode and, along the way, work out the technology of countering
this "bio-war" conducted by the United States. Good, real, training of our VTA and "chemical defenders". Therefore, we were not allowed by China, not a living one, to reveal its secrets in achieving its technologies in the modern "bio-war".

[vnord]

[quote = Salavat Emergencies Ministry] But I wang that Trump will soon inform the whole world in his usual style via Twitter that the mighty USA defeated the coronavirus on the entire planet! And all the rest: so ... stood aside ... [/ quote
The US began to test the vaccine on volunteers ...... Suspiciously fast .....

[prior]

Trump crap one's pants that they will not be re-elected.

[Last centurion]

Yes, they do not care about the lives of hard workers, if only rustling dollars

[mmk]

Trump has an expression on his face, as if he framed something in trousers.

[Motorist]

Train, stop! Two times ...