The myth of the Aurora volley in the Winter Palace


Poster for the film "Aurora Volley" (USSR, 1965)


The myth of the Aurora salvo was born immediately after the storming of the Winter Palace. However, on October 25, 1917, shooting at the palace was not carried out by a cruiser, but by the guns of the Peter and Paul Fortress.

Aurora Volley


On October 25, 1917, at approximately 21:40 minutes, the Aurora fired one blank signal shot. However, almost immediately after the storming of the Winter Palace, a myth was born about the salvo of a ship. Such information began to appear in the press and literature. The American journalist and writer John Reid, a witness of the October Revolution, noted in his book “Ten Days That Shook the World” (published in 1919): “The sidewalk under our feet was covered with stucco collapsing from the palace ledge, where two shells from Aurora hit ". The bombing did not cause other damage. "

The later version that the legendary cruiser hit the palace with live ammunition became generally accepted. In the Short Course stories VKP (b) "of 1938 noted:" The cruiser Aurora, with the thunder of its guns aimed at the Winter Palace, heralded on October 25 the beginning of a new era - the era of the Great Socialist Revolution. ” Performances were staged about this event. In 1965, the film Aurora Volley was released. Aleksey Tolstoy wrote in his novel “Walking through the agony”: “The Winter Palace was empty, pierced through the roof by a shell from Aurora.

In the reality


Before the October Revolution, the Bolsheviks dominated the cruiser Aurora. Sailors of the Baltic fleet became one of the main shock forces of the revolution. Therefore, the cruiser team took part in the armed uprising in Petrograd. On the afternoon of October 25, 1917, the head of the field headquarters of the rebellious Antonov-Ovseyenko instructed the crew to give a couple of blank shots from a 6-inch gun. Also, part of the crew went ashore to participate in patrolling the city. An appeal written by V. I. Lenin “To the citizens of Russia!” Was transmitted by radio from the ship. At about 21:40 p.m. gunner Yevgeny Ognev from a six-inch fired one signal shot. It is believed that he became the signal for the storming of the Winter Palace.

In the following days, information began to appear in newspapers that the ship was firing shells at the palace. These messages were immediately denied by the Aurora team. So, on October 27, 1917, the Pravda newspaper received a letter from the crew of the ship. It protested the allegations that cast a “stain of shame on the cruiser’s team," which allegedly killed civilians. It was noted that if the warship fired live ammunition, "the fire from the guns would not leave a stone on the stone of not only the Winter Palace, but also the streets adjacent to it." The team confirmed that a single blank shot of a 6-inch gun was fired, which was a signal for all vessels standing on the Neva.

In addition, many researchers of the storming of the Winter Palace noted that the Aurora simply could not shoot at this object. Firstly, due to the location of the ship, he could not conduct effective fire. Secondly, before the revolutionary events on the cruiser began overhaul and removed all the ammunition.

Peter and Paul Fortress led the fire


It is worth noting that the defense of the Winter Palace was unsatisfactory. In the garrison before the assault, a small handful of cadets and invalids, St. George cavaliers, part of the 1st Petrograd women's death battalion remained. At the same time, part of the garrison dispersed and fled before the assault: Cossacks, part of the cadets, artillerymen and armored detachment. Also, the command generally did not organize the defense of the building, the supply of the garrison. Countless corridors of the palace and passages were not guarded, the military did not even have a floor plan. Therefore, the battle was generally stupid shooting, from which only a few people died.

In the end, the Bolsheviks simply discovered places where there was no protection at all and entered the building without resistance. After wandering for some time along the corridors of the palace, the Antonov-Ovseenko detachment reached the Malachite Hall in the early morning of the 26th. Hearing voices in the next room, the Red Army opened the door to the Small Dining Room. There were the ministers of the Provisional Government, who moved here from the Malachite Hall. They were arrested.

Earlier, at about 23 p.m., the Winter Palace was fired from the guns of the Peter and Paul Fortress. 35 shots were fired, and only two barely hooked the building. Obviously, the gunners did not want to shoot at the palace itself and intentionally shot over the building. As a result, most of the shells fell on the Palace Embankment, several glasses in the Winter Palace were shattered.

Interestingly, a hospital was opened in the Winter Palace itself in 1915. For the wounded, they decided to divert the ceremonial halls facing the Neva: the Nikolaev Hall with the Military Gallery, Avan Hall, Field Marshalsky and Stamp. As a result, eight of the largest and most beautiful ceremonial halls of the second floor were converted into hospital wards. In October, the grand opening of the hospital for 1 people took place. He was named after the heir to the throne, Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich. In the Nikolaev Hall there were located those affected in the head, neck, chest and spine; in the Armorial Hall - with wounds in the abdominal cavity and thigh, etc. Also, doctors’ rooms, a reception room, a pharmacy, bathrooms, etc. were placed on the ground floor. The hospital was equipped with the latest science and technology of the time. On October 27–28, 1917, the hospital of the Winter Palace was closed, patients were distributed among other hospitals in the capital.
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  1. Pessimist22 24 March 2020 05: 01 New
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    What signal will be used to storm the Kremlin?
    1. bistrov. 24 March 2020 06: 14 New
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      Quote: Pessimist22
      What signal will be used to storm the Kremlin?

      Have you drank your brains? It happens...
      1. Stas157 24 March 2020 10: 49 New
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        Quote: bistrov.
        Have you drank your brains? It happens...

        Do not measure normal people by yourself.

        Quote: Pessimist22
        What signal will be used to storm the Kremlin?

        Not yet known. But many are waiting!

        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        this time, the signal will be given not by the Aurora cruiser, but by some sort of Arly Burke class destroyer under a star-striped flag.

        Value "star-striped"the gentlemen are very exaggerated messers. For the sane Russians, the signals given under"star-striped"don't matter.
        1. bistrov. 24 March 2020 17: 37 New
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          Quote: Stas157
          Do not measure normal people by yourself.

          Is it okay to arrange a “revolution”? Look at the neighbors, or before you, as before the giraffe and after six years did not reach.?
          There is a constitution, observe it, if it does not suit you, vote, but no one will let you create a bacchanalia.
    2. Alexander Suvorov 24 March 2020 08: 40 New
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      Pessimist22 (Igor)
      What signal will be used to storm the Kremlin?
      I’m afraid that this time the signal will be delivered not by the Aurora cruiser, but by some sort of Arly Burke class destroyer under a star-striped flag.
      We have on the horizon neither a new Lenin, nor Stalin. And without a sane leader, without a unifying idea, this will not be a revolution, but a coup d'etat with the goal of more loyal US scumbags coming to power. Let's be realistic.
      Immediately make a reservation, I am for a return to the USSR. But I look at things soberly and realistically. So today, there is no sane force in Russia that could return Russia to the path of building at least socialism. There is no clear idea and therefore no clear plan of action, but even this is not the main thing, the main thing is NO LEADER whom the people would follow. Well, not for the bulk to go? Papa Zyu himself has discounted himself above the roof, Grudinin - don’t tell my slippers. The under-oligarch will raise the banner of the struggle with private property on the means of production? Ha ha ha ... laughing laughing laughing
      So looking really at things, there’s no one to follow.
      1. bober1982 24 March 2020 09: 03 New
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        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        So looking really at things, there’s no one to follow.

        You can agree with this statement, it remains to go for buckwheat and toilet paper, if not bought up.
        1. Ren
          Ren 24 March 2020 09: 39 New
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          Quote: bober1982
          You can agree with this statement, it remains to go for buckwheat and toilet paper, if not bought up.

          In Russia toilet paper never NOT A MEAN OF FIRST NECESSITY!!! repeat
          Do not be so much and frankly frown! lol
      2. vladcub 24 March 2020 15: 59 New
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        “THERE IS NO LEADER whom the people would follow” is the whole trouble. That we HAVE NO ADEQUATE OPPOSITION LEADER. And dad Zu use this.
        I won’t lie: I am not a supporter of Viktor Tyulkin, but if he instead of Zyu would be much better.
        In my opinion, the "son of a lawyer" and even more authority than Zu
    3. fyvaprold 24 March 2020 12: 39 New
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      Quote: Pessimist22
      What signal will be used to storm the Kremlin?

      Navalny himself will give the signal for the assault on the Kremlin, "in his own right." He’ll go to Red Square, turn stern to the Mausoleum, stand on all fours, take off his trousers and give out a loudBUNCH"Actually, this will be the end of the left-wing’s, and the mother’s carbonarians, accompanied by city crazy, gay activists, pedophile-libertarians and other adherents of the Navalny Mammology Sect ©, will wander sadly for the next"insanity ™", accompanied by a booming laughter of the townsfolk. This case will remain a unique phenomenon in the history of" opposition ", since for the first time, to emit intestinal gases, Navalny uses his ass instead of his own mouth. laughing laughing laughing
      1. Catfish 25 March 2020 18: 57 New
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        Bulk first dies, and then goes to the Square. That you constantly advertise this insignificance. Nevertheless, we still have the General Staff, and not only Shoigu is sitting there with his women. soldier
        1. fyvaprold 27 March 2020 23: 53 New
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          Quote: Sea Cat
          Bulk first dies, and then goes to the Square. That you constantly advertise this insignificance. Nevertheless, we still have the General Staff, and not only Shoigu is sitting there with his women. soldier

          Advertise? God save me! I do not advertise, I mock at his unreasonable adherents, of whom a great many have divorced. wink
    4. Igoresha 24 March 2020 18: 18 New
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      What signal will be used to storm the Kremlin?


      According to the Echo of Moscow they will say ... a cloudless sky over the whole of Russia ... and it raced
      1. Catfish 25 March 2020 18: 54 New
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        According to the Echo they will not say anything, they can only ring out. There is no one to call. Listen to weather reports from Alice. laughing
    5. aakvit 25 March 2020 14: 27 New
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      And you will go for the bulk? What can they do? What do they know? "TAM is better! TAM is freedom!" And on hr. why do they need freedom if only in their head ...!
    6. Catfish 25 March 2020 18: 52 New
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      Nothing bigger than a gunboat can approach the Kremlin. And even the modern 76-mimi will not break its walls. Yes, and there it is necessary to look. smile
    7. Lexa-149 29 March 2020 17: 40 New
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      I recommend reading the book by Michael Weller "The Messenger from Pisa, or Zero Hours"
      https://bookshake.net/b/gonec-iz-pizy-ili-nol-chasov-mihail-iosifovich-veller
      According to the plot, events take place in the very beginning of the nineties. The crew quietly repaired the cruiser, set it on track and came to Moscow through canals ...))))
    8. Virus-free crown 15 May 2020 00: 30 New
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      Quote: Pessimist22
      What signal will be used to storm the Kremlin?

      firecracker good
  2. Reptiloid 24 March 2020 05: 13 New
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    At A.I. Fursov has a story about the events of the night of October 25-26. It differs from the generally accepted theory.
    The mythologization of historical events is not a flaw, in my opinion.
    Rather, it speaks of the significance of the event.
    Before the evening hi
    1. prapor55 24 March 2020 05: 48 New
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      Unfortunately, adherents of the official version will run up to them and come across minuses. hi
    2. Arlen 24 March 2020 07: 09 New
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      Quote: Reptiloid
      Rather, it speaks of the significance of the event.

      The event is definitely historical. The cruiser Aurora, with a blank shot, marked the beginning of the global changes of mankind. Thanks to this idle shot, we all supporters of the red and buncrusts received the best education in the world (at the time of the existence of the USSR) and, moreover, for free. Free medicine was created, the estates were eliminated, all that was done good for people, thanks to that famous shot, can be listed for a long time.
      1. Reptiloid 24 March 2020 07: 40 New
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        Here in VO biographies of Soviet people are often printed, who, having left the poorest layers, studied, studied and achieved a lot. There was an unprecedented rise in the country ....
        Regarding mythologization, after all, at that time many were witnesses of both 1PP (1905), 1MB, and the February and October Revolutions. Apparently, contemporaries understood and felt the significance of this event.
        Are there mythological events in post-Soviet history?
        We are witnessing attempts negative mythologize fool 90s reform
        Psss --- I will not return from the door anymore, as I would not like hi
        1. bober1982 24 March 2020 07: 58 New
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          Quote: Reptiloid
          because at that time many were witnesses of both 1PP (1905), 1MB, and the February and October Revolutions. Apparently, contemporaries understood and felt the significance of this event.

          Dmitry, read the diaries of our great writers - Paustovsky, Prishvin, who were eyewitnesses of all these significant events, and both were not, what is called anti-Soviet elements. You will learn a lot of interesting things about the situation of those years.
          “Is he a real Bolshevik?”
          - No, I got it.
          “Have you seen the present?”
          - No, I haven’t.
          - Are there any real ones?
          “Well, Lenin is still real.”
          - Uh, is it really possible with our people in communism!
          1. Aviator_ 24 March 2020 08: 21 New
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            Prishvin and Paustovsky were anti-Soviet elements, but they were smart enough not to oppose the new government. Of course, after the revolution and the Civil War, their comfort level dropped sharply, but not only for them. And there were other great writers and poets - Blok, Bryusov, Mayakovsky, A.N. Tolstoy - they accepted the revolution. When the rebellious peasants burnt the estate of Blok, he reacted to this with regret, but calmly - it was an answer for the actions of his ancestors.
            1. bober1982 24 March 2020 08: 38 New
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              Quote: Aviator_
              Prishvin and Paustovsky were anti-Soviet elements

              Of course, they were not any anti-Soviet elements, so as not to go crazy with all the madness that was around - both began to observe nature, let's call it that. By the way, they had a golden rule - not to join any unions, presidiums or sign any letters. These were great Russian and Soviet writers.
              Quote: Aviator_
              there were other great writers and poets - Blok, Bryusov, Mayakovsky, A.N. Tolstoy

              The bloc - was crazy, Bryusov - a very immoral and depraved type, Mayakovsky - made fun of him, A. Tolstoy - did not accept the revolution, fled to emigration when he became hungry, returned, lived in hungry Soviet Russia as a master, nicknamed the red count.
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              2. Reptiloid 24 March 2020 19: 47 New
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                It’s ugly to approach great writers and poets with everyday standards. Vladimir. If their beliefs do not match yours .... And did others show something creative in a personal way? .... Many writers and poets had their skeletons in the closet, some very complex. Perhaps that is why there was a breakthrough in creativity
                For example, one of the great drinkers, some women subordinate .... but this does not mean that those who drink and walk are equal to them, the world remembers the creative ones for their genius
                1. bober1982 24 March 2020 19: 52 New
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                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  Perhaps that is why there was a breakthrough in creativity

                  If there was a breakthrough, then not a creative, but a sexual breakthrough, as in the mentioned Bryusov, Mayakovsky
                  1. Reptiloid 24 March 2020 20: 15 New
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                    Quote: bober1982
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    Perhaps that is why there was a breakthrough in creativity

                    If there was a breakthrough, then not a creative, but a sexual breakthrough, as in the mentioned Bryusov, Mayakovsky

                    Vladimir, I’m just getting away wassat But why are you indifferent to the skeletons of other creative ones? laughing Indeed, with women immodestly, many great twisted, or ----- drinks drank.
                    And you chose to brand only revolutionary.
            2. bober1982 24 March 2020 09: 20 New
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              Quote: Aviator_
              Of course, after the revolution and the Civil War, their comfort level dropped sharply.

              K. Paustovsky - awarded the Order of Lenin, two orders of the Red Banner of Labor, a medal for courage, a medal for the defense of Odessa
              M. Prishvin - awarded the Order of the Red Banner of Labor, the Order of the Badge of Honor, and the medal For Valiant Labor in the Second World War
              Quote: Aviator_
              Prishvin and Paustovsky were anti-Soviet elements

              Trotskyist reasoning.
              To relax a little, from the diaries ......
              - How much is?
              - Not for sale, it's on me.
              - I ask how much it costs?
              (1918g.)
              1. Igoresha 24 March 2020 18: 21 New
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                As I read K. Paustovsky’s memoirs, I endure the verdict - “comrade” was moral% * & ^ $ #% ^ *, abandoned his mother and blind sister in Kiev during the Civil War and went to travel, he has the call of adventure
                1. bober1982 24 March 2020 18: 45 New
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                  Quote: Igoresha
                  abandoned mother and blind sister in Kiev during the civil war

                  He was drafted in 1918 into the Skoropadsky army, then into the Red Army.
                  You are very free to judge, and not memoirs, but an autobiographical story.
                  1. Reptiloid 24 March 2020 19: 53 New
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                    And how do you judge the socialist, Vladimir?
                    Quote: bober1982
                    Quote: Igoresha
                    abandoned mother and blind sister in Kiev during the civil war

                    He was drafted in 1918 into the Skoropadsky army, then into the Red Army.
                    You are very free to judge, and not memoirs, but an autobiographical story.
                    1. bober1982 24 March 2020 19: 54 New
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                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      And how do you judge the socialist, Vladimir?

                      I don’t understand what you mean, in what sense?
                      1. Reptiloid 24 March 2020 20: 19 New
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                        I just did not want to repeat your words, I do not like them.
                        But I will not talk about other Russian literary gossip, if only to annoy you. What for. These are all living people, not monuments.
              2. Aviator_ 24 March 2020 18: 55 New
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                K. Paustovsky - awarded the Order of Lenin, two orders of the Red Banner of Labor, a medal for courage, a medal for the defense of Odessa
                M. Prishvin - awarded the Order of the Red Banner of Labor, the Order of the Badge of Honor, and the medal For Valiant Labor in the Second World War

                Did they get everything in the 20s? I wrote that they had the intelligence not to oppose the new government. In fact, the medal "For Valiant Labor in the Second World War" on Prishvin’s chest looks like another award for the anniversary in Brezhnev’s time. I can’t imagine what he did valiantly then? Unless the fee from books about nature for defense needs passed, then such an award is permissible. Regarding Paustovsky, the medal “For Courage” also looks more than strange. Did he go on the attack? Even the front-line correspondent K. Simonov did not have such an award.
                1. bober1982 24 March 2020 19: 20 New
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                  Quote: Aviator_
                  In fact, the medal "For Valiant Labor in the Second World War" on Prishvin’s chest looks like another award for the anniversary in Brezhnev’s time.

                  M. Prishvin died in 1954, you can not continue further.
                  1. Aviator_ 24 March 2020 19: 26 New
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                    Do not understand the analogy? This medal was given to him either on the list, as a member of the Writers' Union, or for a financial contribution to the country's defense. In the second version, the award is really deserved (although the same workers were awarded the rear workers - metallurgists, collective farmers ...), and in the first version, future Brezhnev traditions are clearly traced.
                    1. bober1982 24 March 2020 19: 35 New
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                      Quote: Aviator_
                      This medal was given to him either on the list, as

                      Yes, in those days they did not give medals on the list ...
          2. vladcub 24 March 2020 16: 27 New
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            Beaver, we now know all the meaning of October 1917 and therefore it is interesting how contemporaries perceived. Somewhere I heard that A. M. Gorky at first reacted negatively to what had happened.
            1. bober1982 24 March 2020 17: 39 New
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              Quote: vladcub
              A. M. Gorky at first reacted negatively to what had happened

              They began to “feed” the creative intelligentsia immediately after the revolution, for a start, by soldering. Further - more, membership in creative unions, bonuses, summer cottages, etc. And, already under Stalin, creative workers were a brazen, depraved and corrupt mass.
              When they reported to Stalin about the low moral level of this category of citizens, specifically about writers, he answered irritably ..... I have no others.
              As for the proletarian writer, he safely fled from Soviet Russia to an Italian resort.
          3. Reptiloid 24 March 2020 19: 23 New
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            No, Vladimir, I will not read the diaries. Let these writers remain for me those who wrote about nature. From childhood I read them to the petty. I write that I read a little later, I will think about it .... hi
        2. Insurgent 24 March 2020 08: 02 New
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          Quote: Reptiloid
          Here in VO biographies of Soviet people are often printed, who, having left the poorest layers, studied, studied and achieved a lot. There was an unprecedented rise in the country ....

          Yesterday there was an article about I.V. Stalin. And today I found material about the generally obscure fact of his biography:

          Comrade Stalin as prosecutor(abbreviated in full: LJ Colonel Cassad)

          The story of how Comrade Stalin acted as a prosecutor in an adversarial trial in 1918, which examined Martov’s accusations against Stalin that he was allegedly expelled from the party for his involvement in the ex.


          Statement of Comrade Stalin

          Comrade Stalin sent the following statement to the Revolutionary Tribunal:

          “In the newspaper Vperyod, No. 51 (297), an article by L. Martov“ on artillery preparation ”was posted, which, incidentally, states that Stalin was once expelled from the party organization for his involvement in expropriations (see“ Forward “No. 51).
          I consider it necessary to state on this occasion that I, Stalin, never sued the party organization and, moreover, was not excluded from the latter. Considering the accusation thrown by Martov, as a dishonorable trick of a man who has lost his balance, utterly defeated in an open political battle and now clutching in desperation for the “last” means: for vile slander, I ask the revolutionary tribunal to hold L. Martov (Cederbaum) responsible for slander in the press.
          Stalin (Dzhugashili). ”

          Reporting from the courtroom

          The accusation of the leader of the Mensheviks in the libel of Comrade On April 5, Stalin attracted a full audience hall, among which Martov's supporters predominate.
          The bottom line is:
          An article was posted in No. 51 of the Vperyod newspaper, in which Martov accused Stalin of the fact that the latter had been expelled from the party organization at the time for his involvement in expropriation.
          Blames Comrade Sosnovsky, defenders were Alexandrov and Labinsky.
          Martov makes a statement about the lack of jurisdiction of the present case to the Tribunal of Seal, since it is subject to private prosecution by the district court. Stalin points to the socio-political nature of the case, as affecting the honor of the party in power now.
          He acts as a private prosecutor, not wanting to use his public position.
          1. Reptiloid 24 March 2020 20: 04 New
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            Respected Insurgent Regarding the new information that you wrote, I have nothing to say specifically.
            BUT ---- completely unusual new texts are appearing now, both online and in print. It was a great surprise for me to learn that after the revolution a lot of things were destroyed, moreover, revolutionary works, as well as in the archives. This was probably due to the internal party struggle.
            I am reading some amazing reprints of that time, as well as literature, these were absolutely amazing years
            Also read the publication of the soldiers letters 1MV. In the work
            1. Insurgent 25 March 2020 07: 17 New
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              Quote: Reptiloid
              Dear Insurgent Regarding the new information that you wrote, I have nothing to say specifically.

              At least you only, who at least somehow thoughtfully reacted to the information. With some arguments.
              1. Reptiloid 25 March 2020 09: 32 New
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                hi only? Perhaps not, not everyone writes.
                I now have such a moment that I read a lot of new information at the beginning of the 20th century, I still have to keep it in my head. I am set to read more ...
                For instance. We talked about 1MB somehow ....
                But only at the end of last year I happened to read the letters of soldiers collected by Sofia Fedorchenko. Live language of the participants at that time. Although the book was published already in 1983, with a circulation of 20000 copies, I did not know about it
                1. Insurgent 25 March 2020 09: 34 New
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                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  We talked about 1MB somehow ....
                  But only at the end of last year I happened to read the letters of soldiers collected by Sofia Fedrrchenko.

                  But I’m only since March of this year on the site request
                  1. Reptiloid 25 March 2020 09: 39 New
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                    I will look for those of my past comments that I just remembered.! hi
                    Wildly sorry laughing wassat
    3. vladcub 24 March 2020 16: 14 New
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      "Mythologization of historical events" is a natural process. The larger the event, the more myths appear.
      As a rule, the more time passed, the more myths appeared
  3. DMB 75 24 March 2020 05: 14 New
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    I only know that the Aurora volley launched the Great October Revolution, which created the world's first state of workers and peasants.
    1. Aerodrome 24 March 2020 06: 04 New
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      I’ve known about a “single” shot from a cruiser since high school since the 60s.
      1. Arlen 24 March 2020 07: 09 New
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        Everyone knew that.
    2. bandabas 24 March 2020 07: 24 New
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      I will not argue. This is our story, although someone calls it a coup. Everything happened almost bloodless. Power was taken away from the liberal-capitalist ministers who decided their selfish interests. And then another went. What happened next is another story. Everyone had their own TRUTH.
  4. Nikolaevich I 24 March 2020 05: 14 New
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    Actually, for me, the statement that no one knew (does not know) that the "famous" Aurora cannon didn’t shoot with a projectile (shells) is very strange! For example, the information that the Aurora shot was idle is known to me "a long time ago" (!) ... maybe even ... in the "Soviet times"!
    1. tlauicol 24 March 2020 05: 37 New
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      For this, it was enough for Samsonov to buy a ticket and read the inscription on the guns before destroying another "myth"
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        Quote: Tlauicol
        For this, it was enough for Samsonov to buy a ticket and read the inscription on the guns before destroying another "myth"

        Here they laugh a lot at Comrade Samsonov. However, they forget that his articles gain far beyond 100 comments.
        A monkey is sitting on the shore, peeling a banana. The fruit throws into the river, leaves the peel next to itself, in a neat little pea.
        A crocodile swims and asks:
        - Monkeys, what the hell are you doing?
        - Give me 100 bucks, I’ll say
        - Krok gives her money, the monkey tells
        - Yes, I don’t make figs, I’m building a hill from the peel, I throw out the fruits
        - You're an idiot!
        - Fool, on a muzzle, I have my 100 tanks per hour hi
        1. bandabas 24 March 2020 14: 58 New
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          Yes Yes. Good old joke. True, when that account was still in rubles. good
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            I remember - three rubles a day!
            And then it was the same money! laughing
    2. aakvit 25 March 2020 14: 38 New
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      Yes, we were told about this at school! Emnip, even in the history textbook about it was, in my opinion ... request
  5. tlauicol 24 March 2020 05: 35 New
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    firing intentionally over the building. As a result, most shells fell on Palace Embankment
    like this? From the petropavlovka?
    1. Glory1974 24 March 2020 09: 08 New
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      In this way, debunking some myths, creating others.
      But those who were not in St. Petersburg could believe it.
  6. Amateur 24 March 2020 06: 36 New
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    Obviously, the gunners did not want to shoot at the palace itself and deliberately shot over building. As a result, most shells fell on the Palace Embankment,

    The author would do well to go on a trip to St. Petersburg. Because it goes: Petropavlovka-Neva-Palace Embankment-Winter (on the map-Hermitage).
    1. Glory1974 24 March 2020 09: 09 New
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      The author would not hurt to go to St. Petersburg

      It would not hurt the author to read what was written and to critically evaluate it. But he is a writer, not a reader. laughing
  7. Aleksandr72 24 March 2020 06: 42 New
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    The cruiser Aurora is the most powerful warship in the history of mankind. Just one shot (and that idle) turned the story! fellow But seriously - the fact that the Aurora fired idle shells we were taught back in school - an ordinary Soviet high school.
    Interestingly, a hospital was opened in the Winter Palace itself in 1915. For the wounded, they decided to take away the ceremonial halls facing the Neva: the Nikolaev Hall with the Military Gallery, Avan Hall, Field Marshalsky and Stamp.
    - It’s interesting, but someone thought about the wounded themselves: what would it be like for them to lie in a huge hall with large windows overlooking the river. And this is in St. Petersburg with its not the most gentle and friendly weather. In such a hall no matter how its swamp in the winter, drafts are provided anyway. It would be better if they built normal hospitals. By God, it would have been cheaper and much more efficient. But PR has always been more important !!! How did the Emperor give his palace to the wounded! The fact that Nicholas No. 2 with his family preferred to live in Tsarskoye Selo due to the fact that Zimny ​​was not very suitable for housing was somehow not mentioned.
    1. Sneaky Urus 24 March 2020 10: 44 New
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      Duc, secret and "myth" is not present. It is enough to visit the museum "Cruiser Aurora" in St. Petersburg. smile
  8. Paul Siebert 24 March 2020 06: 59 New
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    I have no idea shot the Aurora fighting in the Winter or not.
    In my opinion this is not so important.
    But one fact leaves me in no doubt.
    Fighting at the White House in October 1993
    By order of the drunk Boris Tsar.
    That's when peaceful people just died.
    Then the Parliament building burned for several days. They stewed languidly.
    Then they hastily adopted a new Constitution, which we will soon change.
    That's what's important!
    And the revolution in 1917 won! Was there a shot from the Aurora or not.
    It seems to the authorities this fact is in earnest sausage ... wink
  9. parusnik 24 March 2020 07: 15 New
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    In October 1917 they shot at idle, in October 1993 they fought
    1. Arlen 24 March 2020 07: 31 New
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      In October 17, people came to power who wanted to improve people's lives. And in 93 the usurpers were already in power, they did not give a damn about the people.
    2. Reptiloid 24 March 2020 07: 51 New
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      With kind hi in the morning, Alex!
      Quote: parusnik
      In October 1917 they shot at idle, in October 1993 they fought
      It's like that! It was then that Clinton began to call up with Yeltsin, these negotiations were printed and I mentioned them somehow. Recently, the US Presidential Library began to print their conversations of the late 90s. Very instructive.
    3. Sergst 24 March 2020 09: 16 New
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      In 1917, in Moscow, the Kremlin was shot at combat. There were few shots, the trajectory was counted for a long time with the help of astronomers, but it was ... Revolutions are rarely bloodless.
  10. Olgovich 24 March 2020 07: 33 New
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    After wandering for some time along the corridors of the palace, the ANTONOV-OVSEENKO detachment reached the Malachite Hall in the early morning of the 26th. Hearing voices in the next room, the Red Army opened the door to the Small Dining Room. There were the ministers of the Provisional Government, who moved here from the Malachite Hall. They were arrested.


    Yeroy, yes, 12 years before, RUN away like a hare from a train going to the front from his subordinate soldiers, deserted, was caught and sentenced to death for treason, but .... he was pardoned by a "coaxing" tsarist regime .

    Not a day, nowhere, has anyone worked ...

    But they didn’t even think about pardoning his comrades in the fight: they shot him at the verdict of the USSR Armed Forces exactly 20 years later, as a traitor (which is true!), A spy and a terrorist.

    There is a higher justice and evil irony in the fact that they arrested him and then destroyed him while he was the MAIN consultant on .... "storming" the Winter Palace lol for the film Romm "Lenin in October" .... yes

    Both his wives are destroyed ...
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      1. Olgovich 24 March 2020 09: 51 New
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        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        Woke up sickly and not having time to get drunk right away in battle ..

        “Whoever hurts something speaks about that” (c) yes
        We with Sergey Bubalic even the New Year, which is already a year, is celebrated without a drop of alcohol (read VO), with a cake.

        Got it, no?
        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        About your white-bellied "heroes" who served Hitler almost without exception, you modestly prefer to keep silent, do you?

        They served Hitler, the Gestapo and the SS, according to the conclusion of the Supreme Court of the USSR, 37-38 years - the highest leader of the Red Army (up to 25 g) and the BOP, the head of the General Staff, People's Commissars, 80% of the Politburo and the Central Committee - the corresponding speech of the Prosecutor General of the USSR was given to you. Sclerosis again?
        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        And as for heroes of the revolutionso yes, then many people clung to the Bolsheviks, not sharing their views at all. Their stripping is correct done, it’s a pity, but not all the deficiencies were cleared. We would clean everyone and no one would now pour water from Moldova.

        "Heroes cleared .... right" -Do you realize what you're talking about ?! belay lol
        1. Sugar Honeyovich 24 March 2020 15: 55 New
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          Quote: Olgovich
          They served Hitler, the Gestapo and the SS, according to the conclusion of the Supreme Court of the USSR 37-38, the highest leader of the Red Army (up to 25 g) and the BOP, chief of the general staff, people's commissars, 80% of the Politburo and the Central Committee

          According to the court? But white served Hitler in fact. Feel the difference! laughing lol
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            Quote: Sugar Honeyovich
            According to the court? But white served Hitler IN FACT. Feel the difference!

            Supreme Court of the USSR yes and .... your empty chatter! belay lol

            She just dust compared to BAT .... yes
            и
            Quote: Sugar Honeyovich
            Feel the difference!

            lol
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              Quote: Olgovich
              She's just dust compared to BAT

              Let's say. But this does not cancel the fact of serving whites to Hitler. tongue laughing
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                Quote: Sugar Honeyovich
                Let's say.

                Let's not say this is a fact yes
                Quote: Sugar Honeyovich
                But this does not cancel the fact of serving whites to Hitler.

                Hitler served Soviet citizens-traitors ORDER more!
                And exactly of citizensto which whites are not sideways, they were citizens other States.
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                  Quote: Olgovich
                  Let's not say this is a fact

                  Not a fact, but an assumption. Very shaky.
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  whites in no way- they were citizens of other states.

                  Not only and not so much. In essence, they were enemies of Russia. In fact. negative
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                    Quote: Sugar Honeyovich
                    Not a fact, but an assumption. Very shaky.

                    Do you compare yourself with the .... Supreme Court of the USSR ?! belay fool lol
                    Quote: Sugar Honeyovich
                    Not only and not so much.

                    And only so much
                    Quote: Sugar Honeyovich
                    In essence, they were enemies of Russia. In fact.

                    Certainly: a million (minimum) Grzhadans of the USSR became enemies of their country: this has never happened in the history of the country -NEVER!
  11. mikh-korsakov 24 March 2020 08: 20 New
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    The myth of the myth? But who now remembers this. As for the sources, having the Internet and a certain skill, you can now train the “facts” on any topic, from any angle! The question remains - why? Kick the dead lion again? Let yourself rest quietly, otherwise God forbid wakes up - not everyone will think. The answer - I'm just curious, I want to know the truth - is not accepted, because for a long time it was.
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    Well, that's it; the author admitted: 1) the Bolsheviks, they are agents of Germany, that is, people who betrayed Russia during the war shot at the hospital, which at that time was the Winter Palace and thereby violated all conventions on the conduct of war; 2): they knew how to shoot, for the attention of their adherents, the distance from the Peter and Paul Fortress to Zimny ​​in the vicinity of 500 m (you can also get from a rifle; 3) Well, the cherry on the cake, I quote: "... How do you fight, and shoot ... "
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      Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
      the Bolsheviks, they are also agents of Germany, that is, people who betrayed Russia during the war shot at the hospital, which at that time was the Winter Palace and thereby violated all conventions on the conduct of war;

      It was one of the best hospitals in Russiaequipped by the very last word world medical equipment, where the most complicated operations were carried out and seriously wounded were treated.

      It was destroyed by the thief immediately. How many wounded soldiers died because of this, no one knows ...
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        It was destroyed by the thief immediately. How many wounded soldiers died because of this, no one knows ...

        Here ... obscene bad people, specially aiming at the hospital .. Already then the bloody essence of the Bolsheviks immediately appeared ... fool
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          Quote: Alf
          Here ... obscene bad people, specially aiming at the hospital .. Already then the bloody essence of the Bolsheviks immediately appeared ...

          The best hospital in Russia was broken and looted MANUALLY with your "revolutionaries" bandits.
          Like the whole country, a little later, from 1917 to 1922. And you ended the disaster in 1991

          It's just FACTS yes
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      Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
      Bolsheviks, they are agents of Germany

      With a book of accounting. By name pzhlsta. Why race ???
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      Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
      As you fight, so shoot ... "

      Sounds piquant in the lips of the defeated ... good
  13. Undecim 24 March 2020 10: 06 New
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    The myth of the Aurora volley in the Winter Palace - A product of the post-Soviet art of such “pen acrobats” as the author, who, for twenty minutes or so, scrambled an article on the web about the “myth”, which is full there.
    In fact, there was no myth in the USSR and all schoolchildren knew that the Aurora shot blank and the expression “Aurora volleys” was purely figurative. They wrote about a blank shot not only in textbooks, but also in fiction.

    This is a book published in 1953.
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      Fragment from the book.
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        Next page.
        Unfortunately, I have to comment on this scribble, say, for sanitary purposes.
  14. fuxila 24 March 2020 12: 58 New
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    The fact that “Aurora” shot blanks, like many other readers, was also known from the course of the history of the Soviet school. The truth is the question of who shot at the Winter Palace: did the guns of the Peter and Paul Fortress take part in this, or only the field guns installed nearby. In the palace itself, at the beginning of the assault, the defenders had two guns (standing in the main gate), which fired several shots towards the besiegers. I did not find how many shots were fired at the Winter Palace, but at least one 3-inch shell fired by the besiegers from the side of the square broke through the wall and hit the Alexander Hall, where the portrait of Peter I was damaged. It is possible that everything was limited to this one hit. I think that if you wish, you can find information about the destruction in the palace, after all it was later restored, which means that the relevant documents should be preserved.
    1. Alexey RA 24 March 2020 14: 08 New
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      How many shots at the Winter Palace were I not found

      It is officially believed that the Zimniy fire was fired by three inches taken in the Kronverksky arsenal and installed between the Alekseevsky ravelin and the banks of the Kronverksky channel and the Neva River:
      The memories of the commissar of the fortress became the main source in the description of this fact. Comparing them with other sources recreates the picture of the artillery shelling of Zimny: fortress guns are malfunctioning, gunners refuse to shoot from three-inch cannons deflated to the camp glade, gunners are called in, they fire 30 to 35 shots, only one of the shells hits the target - in the room at third floor of the Winter Palace. Such a scheme can be found in many books until today.

      But in LJ yroslav1985, excerpts from the memoirs of V. N. Smolin were posted - “How they shot at the Winter Palace on October 25, 1917. Letters from the gunner-igniter of the Petrograd separate fortress artillery company”, in which the author claims that it was the regular serf guns that fired.
      To your questions, what shells and where did we get them for firing from the fortress cannons on Zimniy from the fortress on the evening of October 25, 1917?
      Answer. We received shells and grenades from the warehouse of the Powder Cellar, which was located in the fortress,
      To the question. How many guns fired?
      Answer. Guns fired 4. Guns 6-inch. Including West.
      Question. How many shots were given?
      Answer. Shots were given 5 single and 2 shots of live ammunition.
      On my side of the cannon, great confusion came out of me. In my past memoirs it was written that we shot 25 / X 1917 from the Peter and Paul Fortress at Zimniy from the cannon. This is true, this is our common shooting is one. You understand: on 25 October, the West gun not only fired a blank shot, like the Aurora signal, but also fired live ammunition. This is not true.
      After a long puzzle I remembered. What a West gun in the evening of October 25, 1917, from which we fired one blank shot. And no more shots were fired from it. Especially with shells - this is a mistake. This is also confirmed by the West gun itself, its mint, put in the midst of the February Revolution by Comrade Zamyatin, [on] a cannon muzzle. Flattened mint, the lower part of which hung below the internal grooves of the trunk. If a shell would be fired from it on October 25 October, then a hanging canopy of mint would be cut off by a projectile from the barrel.
      After reading this letter, please go to the art museum and look at the mint. Is this so? (2)
      The remaining three guns fired 2 rounds each, that is, four blanks and 2 live shells. One shell was fired on Zimny, as you can see, he turned the corner of the building. And the 2nd shell, which was fired from the 4th gun by mistake of the igniter, which, not allowing the gunner to really aim at Zimny, hurried up, used to pull the cord, and the shell flew off to Sennaya Square, where 4 people were killed, that is, the family of the worker. What the next day, 26 / X, was announced by a person who came to the fortress, but it all happened so. After all, there is no revolution without sacrifices. It is useless to complain - who was killed ...
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        It turns out that the shelling was fought from two sides - from the side of the Peter and Paul Fortress and from the Palace Square, as the Minister of Railways Liverovsky wrote about this, who was at that time in the Winter Palace.
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    Earlier, at about 23 p.m., the Winter Palace was fired from the guns of the Peter and Paul Fortress. 35 shots were fired, and only two barely hooked the building. Obviously, the gunners did not want to shoot at the palace itself and intentionally shot over the building. As a result, most of the shells fell on the Palace Embankment, several glasses in the Winter Palace were shattered.

    If you shoot from Petropavlovka “on top of the Winter Palace”, then the shells will fall not on the Palace Embankment, but on the Palace Square. And that is not a fact - the guns have a rather high trajectory flatness. So the main headquarters building and the Bolshevik detachments that rolled after the first unsuccessful attack of the Winter Palace should have become the "shell".
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      Two winter attacks? One more news. Very informative article and comments.
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    Every pupil in the USSR knew about the shelling of Zimnyi from Petropavlovka (Aurora fired idle). If the current generation - the victims of the exam, this fact is not known, my condolences to the future of Russia!
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    was bombarded with plaster falling from the eaves of the palace, where two shells from the Aurora hit.

    Did the plaster fall off the cornice after hitting TWE 152-MM shells in the cornice? This is a cornice, this is built .. I wonder what the cornice was made of?
    After two hits from the wing of the palace, there would be little left, but here .. Worse there is no evidence of "eyewitnesses" ...
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    What kind of battle salvo from Aurora? Only here I found out about it ...
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    A barge sailed from America with the Jews, then scattered across Russia and demons began a demonic bloody war with the Russians ...
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    Well banged - still some wet pants.
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    As for me, it’s the tenth thing - they fired single or combat shells.

    The most important thing was that then PEOPLE RISED against the power of the exploiters and oppressors. He rebelled against the government, which condemned him and his children to death from hunger, cold and overwork for beggarly pay.
    And that’s exactly how today the last of “those” bourgeois authorities of 1917 pursue a similar policy in today's Russia, under the guise of “caring for the people”, who have not the slightest relation to today's impoverished people's lives!
    Again they want to fatten FOR OUR ACCOUNT, to have huge salaries and no less huge accounts abroad, considering Russia only as a place to make money, and then they will live “there” ...

    In 1917, before the popular uprising, the names of Kerensky, Milyukov, Lvov and other "political figures" leading the then people of Russia with a direct course to poverty and death were heard by ear!
    And although today there are other names that are heard, but we all see that the country, as in 1917, is heading straight and at great speed towards what led to the very salvo of the cruiser Aurora ...

    And the prologue of this volley was, we all know very well ...