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5G networks: In Russia, they named the causes of problems with the coverage of the testing area

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About 13 million inhabitants of the Earth in 2019 managed to evaluate in practice the advantages of fifth-generation cellular networks. This year, the world launched the commercial use of 5G networks.


A series of practical tests of the use of this connection was first held in the United States in the spring of 2019 and showed good results. In Los Angeles, out of 12 measurements, 8 showed connection speeds in excess of 1,4 Gbps. Less successfully tested in South Korea. Consumers complained about the poor quality of communication. It was found that the reason for this was the insufficient number of base stations, and the elimination of this drawback will achieve excellent quality and high speed connections.

According to Ericsson, by October 2019, more than half of the world's mobile operators have announced that they plan to launch fifth-generation networks. For 2025, the company predicts 2,6 billion 5G subscribers. It is estimated that by then 65 percent of the world's population will be able to use these networks.

In Russia, the biggest achievement in 5G development is probably the MTS project to cover the entire territory of the city of Kronstadt with this connection. Moreover, the connection speed reaches 1,2 Gbit per second. Such communication also operates in several pilot areas. Unfortunately, there are no technical capabilities to cover 5 million cities of Russia with a XNUMXG network. Not enough, as they say, "base iron". This is the main reason for the difficulties with the testing coverage.

Last year, a contract was signed between Tele2 and Ericsson. It provides for the installation of 50 thousand base stations in 27 regions of the Russian Federation, including Moscow and St. Petersburg.

Presumably, the deployment of 5G commercial networks in Russia will begin in two years.
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  1. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 23 March 2020 14: 11 New
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    My 4 times glued Nokia3310 asks me: - And what is 5G?
    I answer her: - This means that every G will be 5 times faster in smartphones and all kinds of smart vacuum cleaners will be downloaded.
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 23 March 2020 14: 41 New
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      And all the information about the health hazards of those who are near such stations is safely ignored.
      Perhaps, in this particular case, one should not run ahead of progress, but first look at the result of others? Compare cancer statistics before and after, for example. Fertility of downs. The number of headaches.
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 23 March 2020 14: 50 New
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        Useless. For harm to health does not reduce the number of consumers as much as a ban on producing all these "civilized nishtyaks" at all. In the United States, at one time in advertising, they confidently proved that lead (emnip, in water pipes) is a pancake almost good for the body! Yes, proving to Instagrammers and other smartphoneophiles that the WiFi frequency is the same as in the microwave, just less intense, is like shouting "VDV nothing" on August 2 ... They will tear the rating and push dislikes on the most anti-top.
      2. Malyuta
        Malyuta 23 March 2020 14: 59 New
        -1
        Quote: Shurik70
        Maybe, in this particular case, you should not run ahead of progress, but first look

        I don’t have a tyrnet at all.
    2. vkl.47
      vkl.47 23 March 2020 14: 42 New
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      Price tags will also rise. Me and 4g are satisfied. Everything flies on the smartphone.
      1. svp67
        svp67 23 March 2020 17: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: vkl.47
        Price tags will also rise. Me and 4g are satisfied. Everything flies on the smartphone.

        5G is more for the economy, in the coverage area of ​​these networks it is already possible to equip roads for unmanned vehicles, to organize production in a different way. It is not for nothing that the first project for the arrangement of these networks for MTS and Erickson was the "city-plant" KamAZ
    3. Voyager
      Voyager 23 March 2020 14: 51 New
      +8
      5G will significantly increase the speed and quality of information delivery for both the consumer sector and corporate + provide stable communication in complex areas, such as areas of natural disasters. This standard is necessary and inevitable, a matter of time.
      1. borolh
        borolh 24 March 2020 17: 06 New
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        Yes, this is wartime technology - a person should not be in such zones for a long time. If he is, of course. plans to live after the completion of "special operations" in such a 5P-zone
    4. PROXOR
      PROXOR 24 March 2020 08: 01 New
      +1
      Yes, you don’t need these 5G networks, when even in the European part of Russia 4G networks are not really developed. I went to Pskov. As Wedge drove - that's it - the network was gone. And only on 3G stations appeared.
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  3. Svarog
    Svarog 23 March 2020 14: 18 New
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    5G networks: In Russia, they named the causes of problems with the coverage of the testing area

    5G is far from the most important problem today.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 23 March 2020 14: 30 New
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      and who considers this a problem? simply, the more we pull, the later we can benefit from it. Now the world is so arranged that you cannot be late from the word at all. here we take an ordinary smart. 5 years ago, I could not even think that now I will manage everything through it. from the car to the damn coffee machine. in the evening I can solve so many issues and save a lot of time for tomorrow. Now the phone is a wallet and a remote control. This is a planner and piggy bank. it is a means to save money and time. it is control over children and their safety. etc. etc.
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 23 March 2020 14: 41 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        ...etc. etc.

        And then, by analogy with Covid, Skynet’s larvae will fall into the network ... Or super flash in the sun .. and that’s it! Coffee machine and robotic latrine with automatic wiping off rear laughing
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 March 2020 15: 03 New
          +5
          you did not understand. it does not make you different. It makes you more mobile first. I do not spend time visiting banks or cash desks. I do not carry shopping carts. and much more that I managed to turn off from life and I spend all the free time more profitably. that is the point.
          1. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 23 March 2020 15: 12 New
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            and much more I managed to turn it off from life and all the free time I spend with greater benefit.

            And now the question from the viewers: - And who included all this for you?
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 23 March 2020 15: 41 New
              +4
              a life. Everyday issues as if everyone was present. and someone still pays at the box office. someone runs with receipts at various institutions. Shopping families running with trolleys are generally commonplace. I managed to exclude all this. I know what is not in the house and just buy it if necessary. began to noticeably spend less money. simply because they stopped buying any garbage unnecessary. in fact, I manage everything in my life from the phone. from work to leisure. any purchases without shopping trips. it’s for me in general, like the light in the window) damn me, I was always amazed at my wife’s ability to walk around the mall all day and not buy anything but just watch
              1. Lyuba1965_01
                Lyuba1965_01 23 March 2020 20: 57 New
                +1
                Yours, and indeed many people in our time, is the trouble that you have become a slave to comfort.
                Comfort is not always useful, even if it is convenient.
                Such comfortans (excuse me for neologism) do not understand the main thing: we pay for comfort very, very expensive.
                We pay with health, ecology, our posterity.
                Life with riding horses and kerosene lamps, with all its apparent inconvenience, is compensated by the fact that acid rain does not fall from above and does not whip out of nowhere by an invisible, imperceptible stream of radiation ...
                1. savage1976
                  savage1976 24 March 2020 02: 02 New
                  +2
                  Wrote a man with a smartphone on a 4g network. Something is not observed on your part of the desire to live in a cave, ride a horse and use a kerosene lamp.
                  1. Lyuba1965_01
                    Lyuba1965_01 25 March 2020 19: 21 New
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                    There will be a need - I will ride, I don’t see any trouble.
                    I am writing from a laptop, my phone is simple, push-button.
          2. borolh
            borolh 24 March 2020 17: 20 New
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            it will make you and your children different. - Only the strongest can live in a forest of phased antennas! Mankind has stepped on a road with no return. And mobility is enough for what you are painting about now - with existing wireless technologies of mobile networks
      2. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 23 March 2020 14: 54 New
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        It seems that this comrade got excited, he wears the clock from Cassio with a calculator and everything suits him in this life.
        1. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 23 March 2020 15: 16 New
          +6
          I saw everything in this life ... and punched cards and disks the size of a frying pan and modem disconnect for 99% of the load, too. So with all sorts of blockchains and bigdata you won’t take me to pont wink
          1. borolh
            borolh 24 March 2020 17: 25 New
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            EMF must not only be seen, but also felt their warmth! fellow
      3. ALEKSEY
        ALEKSEY 23 March 2020 15: 17 New
        +6
        5 years ago I couldn’t even think that now I’ll manage everything through it
        A little more (wait a little) and they will manage you through it.
        Congratulations. You are hooked, as are 90% of the world's population.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 March 2020 15: 42 New
          +1
          Yes it does not bother me to live) here at all. fearing technology is stupid.
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 23 March 2020 17: 00 New
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          In the 19th century there were opponents of steam traction on the railways. They motivated this by the fact that chickens can stop rushing. You would definitely still be riding horses with you.
    2. vkl.47
      vkl.47 23 March 2020 14: 43 New
      +3
      That's for sure. There are matters and more important. In principle, it does not burn.
    3. Rusland
      Rusland 23 March 2020 14: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      5G networks: In Russia, they named the causes of problems with the coverage of the testing area

      5G is far from the most important problem today.

      Then twist the reel tape recorder and do not complain about the speed on the Internet, so is Isolda Tikhonovna? Or idle talk, how to wipe two fingers on a sheet at a roommate. negative
    4. svp67
      svp67 23 March 2020 17: 03 New
      +6
      Quote: Svarog
      5G is far from the most important problem today.

      And nevertheless, it must already be solved so as not to stay "in yesterday" when others leave "in tomorrow"
  4. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 23 March 2020 14: 45 New
    +9
    More gigabits is very cool, you can stick a whistle in the PC and enjoy a fast Internet))
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 23 March 2020 16: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      More gigabits is very cool, you can stick a whistle in the PC and enjoy a fast Internet))

      No-no-no, then all the whistles are stuck and the torrents start to download - well, no resources will be enough. Only a smartphone or tablet.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 23 March 2020 19: 00 New
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        By the time when there are bright 5G whistles and coverage, the channel width will also increase significantly, so the norm))
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 23 March 2020 19: 07 New
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          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          the channel width will also increase much,

          The pocket width of operators is always wider than the width of the channel.
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 23 March 2020 19: 10 New
            +2
            Well, yes, only if I had been told 10 years ago that I would pay 100 r for 300 Mbps. per month, I would never have believed))
            The Internet is getting cheaper, the speed is growing.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 23 March 2020 19: 18 New
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              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              Well, yes, only if I had been told 10 years ago that I would pay 100 r for 300 Mbps. per month, I would never have believed))

              I have a little more expensive stock, the stock will end and there will be a five-point, but it is wired.
              Have you seen tariffs "for smartphones" and "for tablets"? Climb from the computer, they immediately cut your speed for a day - in fact, they will block it. And there are no tariffs for a computer.
              I do not think that they will change their principles.
              1. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith 23 March 2020 19: 48 New
                +2
                If for work, the whistle with its speed and tariffs is enough for the eyes, as for a smartphone / tablet.
                To me, at least)))
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 23 March 2020 19: 50 New
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                  Quote: Lord of the Sith
                  If for work

                  If you live in a village, then this becomes a problem.
              2. Kelwin
                Kelwin 24 March 2020 04: 11 New
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                SeryiBrat, I’ll tell you a secret, current shh ..) I’ve been sitting on the phone for a couple of years, and not a single operator cuts anything and is not at all comfortable with business. and there are 5 cars in the grid. The point is not in the principles, they will not change for sure, the point is which of the users can and who cannot (s)
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 24 March 2020 08: 42 New
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                  Quote: KelWin
                  the fact is which of the users can and who cannot (s)

                  Have you registered your Mac address on the router? These are individual dances with a tambourine, they do not cancel the fact that such a service is not provided.
                  1. Kelwin
                    Kelwin 24 March 2020 10: 18 New
                    0
                    They ttl on ttl basically, but you are right, poppy sometimes becomes a problem in completely legitimate cases. But what I can’t agree with is the fact that this is a service. I don’t distribute to neighbors, but I use it, this is my Internet, I paid for it and consider this Internet as property, and the provider’s attempts to steal from me also for each device as an arbitrariness. This is about how Chubais would want to hang an additional counter on each outlet in the house - will they crack anything?) Hence a simple and logical conclusion, the use of technical measures to protect your pocket from insolent people is justified. Something like this...
                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 24 March 2020 10: 27 New
                      0
                      Quote: KelWin
                      I do not distribute to neighbors, but I use it myself, this is my Internet

                      This is parallel to the operator - for example, Windows will crawl for updates, or it will burn for Microsoft traffic, and it will either cut the speed or roll out the bill for distribution, they don’t care who they give out to you, they sold you a connection to one specific device.
                      But the fact itself is present, as it were, grabbers - they are grabbers.
                      Quote: KelWin
                      They ttl whip mostly

                      Thanks for ttl - I will know. hi
                      1. Kelwin
                        Kelwin 24 March 2020 11: 12 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Gray Brother
                        This is parallel to the operator - for example, Windows will crawl for updates, or it will burn for Microsoft traffic, and it will either cut the speed or roll out the bill for distribution, they don’t care who they give out to you, they sold you a connection to one specific device.

                        Actually, there is not a word about one device in the tariff, but there is an unlimited Internet, plus this SIM can work whistle, and several different OSes can work on a computer at the same time (just one of the cases when a respectable user may have problems ) In practice, traffic is not analyzed apparently, only TTL, it is technically simpler by two orders of magnitude.
                        Just in their tricks to confuse the head to deceive the consumer and at the same time move the competitor, they have reached the edge, where it smells not of a commercial but a fraudulent scheme. The logic of commodity-money relations, you sold - I bought, the transaction is completed, the right of ownership has passed to me, and no one can dictate to me how to dispose of my property. What is parallel to them there - it’s violet to me)) especially since they technically cannot interfere, but simply use the inexperience of most users, impudently deceiving them. Actually, you have to punish such things, kmk.
  5. Karaul14
    Karaul14 23 March 2020 14: 46 New
    +1
    5g operate at a very high frequency, which means the range will be several times less, such a small technological deadlock.
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 23 March 2020 14: 48 New
    12
    4G works for 3 points for us! Often, under the guise of 4G, they give us a 3G network of the previous generation! The operators justify the difference in the transmission speed of the signal reception with the phrase "how many people are sitting on the Internet"! Only one "BUT", people seem to be sitting in crowds near base stations? An application from the market is enough to find out the transmission speed of the signal reception yourself, and to understand that even with 4G we are hung up on noodles! And fifth-generation networks are not that important now! Now, when 4g networks operate in their high-speed range, no one will chase the mythical benefits of 5g networks!
  7. BREAKTHROUGH READY
    BREAKTHROUGH READY 23 March 2020 14: 49 New
    +8
    So far, these 5G are not needed for nothing.
    Mobile operators and providers do not even export 4G (and in many regions of the vast country and 3G), network cables and infrastructure can not cope with the load.
  8. Arlen
    Arlen 23 March 2020 15: 00 New
    19
    4G? 5G ... I have a friend who only recognizes push-button phones. To the questions, how do you get along in the modern world without vibers and vatsapov, he replies: "It's easy! I don't need them. I have a phone? Have it. Does it call? Calls. Can you talk on it? You can. Well, why do I these gadgets. And to access the Internet there is a desktop computer. " Sometimes I envy him ...
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 23 March 2020 15: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: Arlen
      how do you manage in the modern world without vibers and Whatsapps?

      If you add up the time of users for any "empty pastime", then during this time you can manually rewrite the WDL
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 23 March 2020 17: 02 New
      +6
      Quote: Arlen
      Sometimes I envy him ...

      Can I also envy ... One of the reasons for the popularity of Vesta is its great-grandmother: the good old nokia without any bells and whistles: it has nothing but a phone.
  9. Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar 23 March 2020 16: 33 New
    0
    Coverage is extremely small and therefore the connection is very expensive. Reducing the cost by increasing their range and reducing the number of stations. This is an interim solution, scientific and technical capabilities do not allow solving the issue of unlimited range, while
  10. thinker
    thinker 23 March 2020 16: 35 New
    0
    1
    Last year, a contract was signed between Tele2 and Ericsson
    But this is not about 5G, unfortunately.
    Ericsson's new base stations support the fifth generation of communications, but the implementation of this standard is now less relevant than the development of LTE ... Tele2 begins a very large network construction to compete on equal terms with competitors in LTE coverage

    2
    There is a lack of what is called "basic hardware". This is the main reason for the difficulties with testing coverage.
    So it’s true, but there are nuances -
    Operators have repeatedly stated that they would like to test the operation of 5G equipment and subsequently deploy networks in the lower (centimeter) range 3,4-3,8 GHz, which is considered to be the most promising for commercial networks. Despite the serial production of equipment for operation in this range launched by Ericsson, Huawei and Nokia, in the Russian Federation he is busy with communication systems of law enforcement agencies, including the Ministry of Defense. Frequency conversion of 3,4-3,8 GHz is possible, but it is costly and will require extensive organizational and technical training, which the security forces are clearly not interested in. In August 2019, Russian President Vladimir Putin imposed a “Agree” resolution on a letter from the Security Council, which summarized the negative position of law enforcement agencies in allocating 3,4-3,8 GHz frequencies for the development of 5G in Russia. As a result, from the conclusion of the working group on the audit of loading of the radio frequency spectrum in Russia (“Express Audit of RFES 5G”) with the participation of the Ministry of Communications, Roskomnadzor, Roscosmos, the Radio Research Institute, the Ministry of Defense and the FSO, it follows that the most realistic allocation to operators for construction 5G networks in the 4,4-4,99 GHz band.
    According to Yulia Klebanova, Qualcomm Europe’s vice president of business development, it’s easy to create chipsets for equipment at frequencies of 4,4-4,99 GHz. However, given that everywhere, except Russia, the demand for devices with such frequencies will be extremely limited (operators in certain countries of Southeast Asia announced their intention to use them for 5G), it is unlikely that the release of such chipsets will become mass. This means that prices for equipment and subscriber gadgets will be high, which will only slow down the development of 5G in the Russian Federation.

    https://telesputnik.ru/materials/tekhnika-i-tekhnologii/article/seti-5g-v-mire-i-v-rossii/
  11. shultz21070
    shultz21070 23 March 2020 17: 39 New
    -1
    The main reason for the difficulties with switching to 5g is that the highlight of this standard is the ability to communicate directly between devices, bypassing base stations, and this makes it very difficult to apply the Spring Law