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Sohu told why China is grateful to the "small European country" - Belarus

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In recent years, military-technical cooperation between China and Belarus has been developing at a particularly rapid pace. Minsk has taken a course to strengthen military ties with Beijing, trying not to confine itself only to partnership with Russia.


If military-technical cooperation between Russia and Belarus is, firstly, a direct consequence of the existing Soviet military-industrial system, and secondly, the result of special relations between the two states, which are the closest allies in the post-Soviet space, then relations with China have developed slowly for a long time . The situation changed after Alexander Lukashenko decided to diversify the military-technical cooperation of Belarus. China became an ideal partner.

Sohu news agency emphasizes the importance of Sino-Belarusian relations, as Belarus has a very developed military industry, as well as advanced technologies in the development of rocket launchers. So, it was with the help of Belarus that China created a chassis for mobile ground missile systems (PGRK). For this, according to Sohu, China is grateful to "a small European country - Belarus."

In 2009, the Volat-Sanjiang enterprise was opened in Minsk, which produces hydromechanical gears for heavy vehicles and wheeled tractors. As a result of the opening of a new enterprise, the Belarusian military industry secured itself with orders, and China was able to get additional opportunities to create its own mobile strategic missile systems.

Then, Alexander Lukashenko came up with the idea of ​​creating either joint Chinese-Belarusian or purely Chinese high-tech enterprises that would be engaged in the production of modern communications and surveillance, computer technology, unmanned aerial vehicles.


Finally, a joint missile program of China and Belarus was adopted, as a result of which the Polonaise multiple launch rocket system was born. A launcher for Chinese A200 missiles with a range of up to 300 km was created on the chassis of the Belarusian enterprise MZKT.

Then a joint Sino-Belarussian telecommunications satellite Belintersat-1 was created. It was developed by China Aerospace Scienceand Technology Corporation based on Belarusian technologies and launched in January 2016 from the Sichan Cosmodrome in China.

According to Chinese authors, even Russia, with all its technological development, cannot do without Belarusian technologies, and this fact makes cooperation with Minsk especially important for Beijing. In China, they call Belarus a true friend and emphasize that it helps the Celestial Empire to overcome the technological blockade organized by the United States and its allies.

On the other hand, Belarus is well aware that it is not possible to maintain the country's military industry without attracting foreign partners. Therefore, Lukashenko scattered compliments to China and Chairman Xi Jinping.

However, the developing Sino-Belarusian military-technical partnership is fraught with the risk of a clash of interests between Russia and China in Belarus, since for a long time Russia was the main partner for the Belarusian military industry.

However, many experts believe that despite the success of individual Sino-Belarusian projects, nevertheless, the two countries’ cooperation in the military-technical sector is more episodic than regular, and in the foreseeable future, Minsk will have to recognize the country's dependence on military-technical in any case. Partnerships with Russia, not with China.
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    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 23 March 2020 12: 30 New
      +5
      Poor "European" student is always glad to rich "relatives"
      1. smart ass
        smart ass 23 March 2020 12: 50 New
        +6
        We have cooperation too !!! We drive round timber to China and gas !!! The power of Siberia !!!!!!
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 March 2020 13: 46 New
          +3
          for sure. with the volume of logging more than 200 million sold as much as 20. you are stuck in the past.
          1. smart ass
            smart ass 23 March 2020 14: 13 New
            -8
            Will there be specifics? What forest, for what period of time, to whom?
          2. Malyuta
            Malyuta 23 March 2020 15: 47 New
            -1
            Quote: carstorm 11
            full time. with the volume of logging more than 200 million sold as much as 20. you are stuck in the past.

            Of course you lied, but where do you think another 180 million cubes have gone?
        2. For example
          For example 23 March 2020 13: 50 New
          -6
          Russia, for all its technological development, cannot do without Belarusian technologies

          There are no Belarusian technologies.
          All that is in the country formed thirty years ago by stealing land from the Russian Empire - the USSR is Russian technology.

          The Chinese will simply buy from Belarusians what was built on these lands during the Soviet era.

          And even this is a no brainer.

          "Belarusian Technologies" wassat laughing lol
          1. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 23 March 2020 14: 54 New
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            Quote: For example
            "Belarusian Technologies"

            In Belarus, there are two leading enterprises, Peleng, Integral and a number of other high-tech enterprises.
            "Bearing" this company creates a unique target equipment for a number of spacecraft in Russia. For example, for Earth remote sensing (ERS) satellites of the Canopus series. July 22, 2012 to an altitude of about 510 km by Soyuz-FG launch vehicle. These were the Russian satellite Canopus-V No. 1 and its Belarusian twin BKA.
            For both devices, Peleng OJSC has developed an optical-electronic telescopic complex, which from a height of 550 km at a viewing angle of up to 45 degrees gives a resolution of 2 m.
            In 2019, similar satellites No. 5 and No. 6 were successfully put into orbit. To date, the constellation includes six Russian Kanopusov-V and a Belarusian BCA.
            Aerospace Optoelectronic Equipment Developed in Belarus for devices like “Canopus”, Russia needs to obtain digital electronic maps of the Earth’s surface used for pointing high-precision weapons, we are talking about the X-555 and X-101 cruise missiles that the Russian strategic missile carriers Tu-95MS and Tu-160 are equipped with. As well as winged and aeroballistic ammunition of the operational-tactical missile systems Iskander.
            And that is not all.
            The Chinese do not throw money down the drain and know who to be friends with.
            Well, how are your hohatunchiki?
            LAUGHTER THAT .......
            1. venik
              venik 23 March 2020 17: 40 New
              +2
              Quote: Vitaly Gusin
              In Belarus there are two leading enterprises "Peleng", "Integral"

              ========
              Forgive me, but if the Russian Federation refuses (well, suddenly, suppose) from the products of "Peleng", "Integral" "within the framework of import substitution" (God forbid, of course !!! quality consumer their products (and in the same volumes) ???
              At "Father" - it is better not to ask - HE will naturally answer - YES!
              Although something tells me that everything is not so simple ...... Not for nothing after the last meeting with "Comrade Xi", But Father left the Celestial Empire ahead of schedule (!!!) interrupting the visit and in a completely furious way!
              So it comes out to eat ...... "tit" in hand and ... crane in the sky..... (And very high and very far away!) request
              1. Vitaly gusin
                Vitaly gusin 23 March 2020 20: 20 New
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                Quote: venik
                Forgive me, but if the Russian Federation refuses (well, suddenly, suppose) from the products of "Peleng", "Integral" "within the framework of import substitution"

                YOU, is this serious or a joke?
                Quote: venik
                Not for nothing, after the last meeting with "Comrade Xi", But Father left the Celestial Empire ahead of schedule (!!!), interrupting the visit and in a completely furious state!

                "Lukashenko missed all Saturday's events. This act is a gesture of resentment against Putin. Putin avoided meeting."
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 23 March 2020 21: 09 New
              +4
              Quote: Vitaly Gusin

              In Belarus, there are two leading enterprises, Peleng, Integral and a number of other high-tech enterprises.
              "Bearing" this company creates a unique target equipment for a number of spacecraft in Russia.

              Would you like to say that these enterprises were created after Belarus gained independence and completely from scratch with their own technologies and equipment? This is part of the legacy from the USSR that ended up on the territory of Belarus, which is what the colleague "For example" meant. The undoubted merit of the Belarusians lies in the fact that they not only preserved these enterprises, but also modernized them to a level that allows them to produce demanded products in good quality. Who knows what would have happened to them during the Yeltsin-Chubais deriban and the destruction of the enterprises of the military-industrial complex, if they had ended up in Russia. At that time, hundreds of factories were closed and cut down.
              1. Vitaly gusin
                Vitaly gusin 23 March 2020 22: 48 New
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                Quote: Nyrobsky
                Would you like to say that these enterprises were created after Belarus gained independence and completely from scratch with its technologies

                No I do not want to.
                I answered to:
                "Belarusian Technologies" wassat laughing lol
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                The undoubted merit of the Belarusians lies in the fact that they not only retained these enterprises, but also upgraded to the level that allows them to produce demanded products in good quality.

                And for everything else, you answered yourself.
              2. Vitaly gusin
                Vitaly gusin 23 March 2020 23: 07 New
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                Quote: Nyrobsky
                These things are part of the legacy from the USSR that ended up in Belarus,

                The defense industry of Belarus today - this is a direct legacy of the Soviet Union. The republic has traditionally been distinguished by a high share of military production in its economy. So, about 120 organizations and enterprises of the military-industrial complex, including 15 KB and research institutes, were located in the Byelorussian SSR.
                https://topwar.ru/160295-vpk-respubliki-belarus.html
          2. Uncle Izya
            Uncle Izya 23 March 2020 14: 56 New
            -5
            And RI chopped off these lands in the Republic of Poland at one time, Belarusians had nothing to steal from anyone, but they also saved and increased who is to blame for you that they squandered everything
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 23 March 2020 15: 20 New
              0
              Quote: Uncle Izya
              still saved and increased who is to blame for you that squandered everything

              This was influenced by the previous work of the heads of state.
            2. Doliva63
              Doliva63 23 March 2020 19: 53 New
              +2
              Quote: Uncle Izya
              And RI chopped off these lands in the Republic of Poland at one time, Belarusians had nothing to steal from anyone, but they also saved and increased who is to blame for you that they squandered everything

              And even earlier, these lands ON chopped off. And when did the Belarusians actually appear? My ancestors in the ON were considered Russian, they spoke and wrote in Russian. And after the formation of RP suddenly became Poles laughing
              1. Uncle Izya
                Uncle Izya 23 March 2020 20: 53 New
                0
                Forced alliance against Germans and Mongols did not chop off
              2. Uncle Izya
                Uncle Izya 23 March 2020 20: 54 New
                0
                Litvinam or Rusyns
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 24 March 2020 18: 48 New
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                  Quote: Uncle Izya
                  Litvinam or Rusyns

                  Have you seen at least one document of those places and those years? Corrected for orphangia and the alphabet are easy to read. So not Rusyns and Litvins, for sure.
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              1. Uncle Izya
                Uncle Izya 24 March 2020 07: 59 New
                -1
                Yes, you will regret that Izya was born and I’m only my nickname and drink Valerianovka and yes I myself am a resident of Orsha keep this in mind
                1. venik
                  venik 24 March 2020 10: 08 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Uncle Izya
                  Yes, you will regret that you were born

                  =======
                  Oh oh oh! How scary! I was already terribly scared ....
                  Although if you think about it: "You can read through these steaks!" (Zhvanetsky "Miniatures")
                  --------
                  "...Yes, I myself am a resident of Orsha keep this in mind..... "
                  =======
                  Dear Izya! Shaw, I can tell you this: Oh! Already have .... (in view of)!
                  PS Izya! The funny thing is that the words Odessa and Orsha do start with the same letter! Letters "O-o-o-o"!
                  1. Uncle Izya
                    Uncle Izya 24 March 2020 11: 00 New
                    -1
                    I doubt that you are a resident of Orsha and you’re singing eastern Flax
                    1. venik
                      venik 24 March 2020 12: 08 New
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                      Quote: Uncle Izya
                      I doubt that you are a resident of Orsha and you’re singing eastern Flax

                      =======
                      Dear Izya, you can be sure! I'm not a resident of Orsha! I'll tell you even more - and I was only once in your wonderful city, and even then I was "passing through" ... And even then 30 years ago ...
                      Sholom! hi
                      1. Uncle Izya
                        Uncle Izya 24 March 2020 13: 05 New
                        -2
                        You say to yourself Mokshan how the battle of Orsha is familiar to you Moksha
                  2. Uncle Izya
                    Uncle Izya 24 March 2020 11: 02 New
                    -2
                    I’m Ruslan and you are a broom very nice and among the Jews I met many decent people, unlike you from the Russian outback
                    1. venik
                      venik 24 March 2020 16: 04 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Uncle Izya
                      I’m Ruslan and you are a broom very nice and among the Jews I met many decent people, unlike you from the Russian outback

                      =======
                      I don't know if you are "ruslan" or "izya" (it makes no difference to me!) .....
                      And for "moksha": close the pashchu not that razzlavats !!!! am
          3. Fuethe
            Fuethe 23 March 2020 17: 25 New
            -1
            And in Russia - Russian or Soviet technology? If Belarus does not have Belarusian technologies, then what has the country been doing all these 30 years?
        3. Campanella
          Campanella 23 March 2020 14: 13 New
          -4
          That's for sure! And then here pvsedo patriots are so sick for Russia that they don’t understand the simple things Russia has nothing to shine on the world market, everything fell into decay thanks to the brilliant. Even Belarus realized that it would drown together with Russia and its stupid oligarchs.
        4. Harry.km
          Harry.km 23 March 2020 20: 53 New
          0
          Quote: Clever man
          We have cooperation too !!!

          It ends here ... We have already bought all the technologies, and we will bring them the raw materials on a silver platter. They reject the forces of Siberia, they don’t want oil. Now we decided to squeeze out the remnants of technology from Belarus. Thoughtful they ...
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 23 March 2020 12: 41 New
      +5
      Quote: Insults
      In recent years, military-technical cooperation between China and Belarus has been developing at a particularly rapid pace.

      There, Ukraine is also licking heavily on distillation ...)))
      Communist China will save everyone

      I understand correctly - the Bandera government of Ukraine, zealously pursuing decommunization ... "licks on the distillation ... to communist China ..."? belay
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 23 March 2020 12: 55 New
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        Quote: Terenin
        Quote: Insults
        In recent years, military-technical cooperation between China and Belarus has been developing at a particularly rapid pace.

        There, Ukraine is also licking heavily on distillation ...)))
        Communist China will save everyone

        I understand correctly - the Bandera government of Ukraine, zealously pursuing decommunization ... "licks on the distillation ... to communist China ..."? belay

        How did you get it already fool . Open your eyes. After all, the article is about Belarus and China. What does 404 have to do with it? Quite obsessed with her. Well, in every post you need to insert this yellow-black block crap. This is a diagnosis. It seems schizophrenia is called
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        2. TAMBU
          TAMBU 23 March 2020 15: 33 New
          0
          it is rather paranoia
        3. Terenin
          Terenin 24 March 2020 14: 23 New
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          Quote: Piramidon
          Quote: Terenin
          Quote: Insults
          In recent years, military-technical cooperation between China and Belarus has been developing at a particularly rapid pace.

          There, Ukraine is also licking heavily on distillation ...)))
          Communist China will save everyone

          I understand correctly - the Bandera government of Ukraine, zealously pursuing decommunization ... "licks on the distillation ... to communist China ..."? belay

          How did you get it already fool . Open your eyes. After all, the article is about Belarus and China. What does 404 have to do with it? Quite obsessed with her. Well, in every post you need to insert this yellow-black block crap. This is a diagnosis. It seems schizophrenia is called

          You already got it with your schizophrenia fool . An answer was given to the post. The censor was found ...
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 24 March 2020 14: 31 New
            0
            Quote: Terenin
            An answer was given to the post.

            Thus, he supported the flood and offtopic on this site.
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 24 March 2020 15: 35 New
              +1
              Quote: Piramidon
              Quote: Terenin
              An answer was given to the post.

              Thus, he supported the flood and offtopic on this site.

              Why are you doing this? Especially mentoring style of communication.
              There were "hooks" with you, parted sides, and you again ... request
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      3. antique
        antique 23 March 2020 16: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: Terenin
        I understand correctly - the Bandera government of Ukraine, zealously conducting decommunization ...

        Well, what power do we have? At us who carries out decommunization, de-Stalinization, desovetization? Who renames and for what purpose the streets? Who destroys historical memory? Who says Hitler is better than Stalin?
        1. antique
          antique 23 March 2020 16: 47 New
          -2
          Well, and who in the end does not call Stalin the Marshal of Victory, and who drapes Lenin's Mausoleum every year? And who quotes the Russian fascist Ilyin and lays flowers at his grave?
  2. sergey32
    sergey32 23 March 2020 12: 33 New
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    We have such "allies" both in the west and in the east, on which in no case can you depend in such a sensitive area as the defense industry. The fifth point is wagged between one and the other.
    1. yuliatreb
      yuliatreb 23 March 2020 12: 49 New
      +7
      "Such friends for one causal place and to the museum" - so my grandfather used to say, and if such a museum existed, then there would be no places in it.
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 23 March 2020 14: 10 New
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        Quote: yuliatreb
        "Such friends for one causal place and to the museum" - so my grandfather used to say, and if such a museum existed, then there would be no places in it.

        And if we recall the devoted Yugoslavia, then to us, alas, to the same museum, to the place of honor.
        1. Toptygin
          Toptygin 23 March 2020 14: 44 New
          +1
          Also, being a schoolboy, he was indignant in 99m that we did not help Yugoslavia. But then I entered the university and there I learned at lectures on history that Yugoslavia was an ally for a word, in which the first letter was "x", the last "y", and between them "uyov". They did not even enter the social block, but demanded nishtyakov "in an adult". At the same time, NATO in general and the United States in particular helped easily and simply. One story with the Yak-23 fighter donated to the Americans in exchange for the supply of aircraft is worth what.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 March 2020 13: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: sergey32
      We have such "allies" in the western direction, in the eastern

      Yes, all of them are, apparently allies, but in fact are chameleons.
    3. Doliva63
      Doliva63 23 March 2020 19: 57 New
      0
      Quote: sergey32
      We have such "allies" both in the west and in the east, on which in no case can you depend in such a sensitive area as the defense industry. The fifth point is wagged between one and the other.

      The Russian authorities have one ally - offshore, betrayed and sold the rest (nothing personal, just business, as they say).
  3. guerrilla
    guerrilla 23 March 2020 12: 34 New
    -3
    I swear all the time when the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation finds a child a kilometer from the place of "loss". ..after 2-3 days ...
    Whereas in Belarus thermal imagers constantly monitor the state of heating mains from helicopters.
    The creators of Armat / Vanguard / Krakenov and others that have no analogues in the world and the Ministry of Emergencies without FLIR.
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 23 March 2020 13: 28 New
      -1
      Quote: Guerilla
      I swear all the time when the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation finds a child a kilometer from the place of "loss". ..after 2-3 days ...
      Whereas in Belarus thermal imagers constantly monitor the state of heating mains from helicopters.
      The creators of Armat / Vanguard / Krakenov and others that have no analogues in the world and the Ministry of Emergencies without FLIR.

      Open the card and see.
      1. guerrilla
        guerrilla 24 March 2020 07: 37 New
        -1
        Quote: neri73-r
        Open the card and see.

        Look at the fact that Russia does not have its own analogue of FLIR? (Even in Belarus there). And because of this, many foreign contracts for the supply of military-technical cooperation have been lost?
        Or see on the map that FLIR EMERCOM is not needed? But such statements are already beyond the bounds. And there is no need to tell a fairy tale that a person / animal is not a warm-contrast target. In the morning and in the evening - as a contrast. In the countries of "developed" capitalism, the FLIR rescue services are almost the main search tool.
        Or is it a reference to distances in Russia? Thus, a child / person is lost not "somewhere" in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, but in a specific place. And they are looking for him dozens of kilometers from the place of loss, and almost always find him nearby, a few kilometers away. Within an hour flight with a helicopter equipped with an analogue FLIR.
        And about the foliage - when you get lost and hear the noise of a helicopter and hide from it in the bushes / under a tree - you, neri73-r, or saboteur, or turn on the brain.
    2. Sergst
      Sergst 23 March 2020 15: 41 New
      +1
      Infrared from a child’s helicopter in the forest, under the foliage? Unreal
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 23 March 2020 18: 24 New
      -1
      Quote: Guerilla
      I swear all the time when the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation finds a child a kilometer from the place of "loss". ..after 2-3 days ...
      Whereas in Belarus thermal imagers constantly monitor the state of heating mains from helicopters.

      We regularly fly along the heating mains and gas pipelines. And how can a lost child be connected to the heating main? Are all children lost only on heating mains? And how does that thermal imager distinguish a child from an animal?
  4. Kurare
    Kurare 23 March 2020 12: 40 New
    13
    IMHO: China does nothing for free, does not give anything to anyone out of good intentions. Belarus holds, forgive Belarusians recourse, for an African country, to which you can give loans, promises, etc., and then take "lease" for 50 or even 100 years because of the insolvency of the lender. They have already done such tricks on the African continent.
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  5. Prahlad
    Prahlad 23 March 2020 12: 41 New
    0
    It’s not for you Russian woman to forgive debts, China will take away everything and enterprises and lands
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 23 March 2020 13: 12 New
      +4
      Quote: Prahlad
      It’s not for you Russian woman to forgive debts, China will take away everything and enterprises and lands

      Is it good or bad?
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      2. evgic
        evgic 23 March 2020 13: 51 New
        10
        They did not write this to him in the training manual. Do not drive a person into a stupor with unexpected questions
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 March 2020 12: 41 New
    +6
    On the website, the opinion expressed in Sohu is constantly being voiced, and what does the People's Daily think about this? Interested in this
    helps the Celestial Empire to overcome the technological blockade organized by the United States and its allies
    How? Or does Belarus have technologies equal to Western ones, or is it buying something for China? But Belarus itself is partially under the sanctions of the United States.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 23 March 2020 13: 27 New
      +7
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Or Belarus has technologies equal to Western

      Belarusians got a lot of Soviet technologies. And they themselves did not sit idle. Developed them on the basis of Soviet backlogs
  7. Sergey39
    Sergey39 23 March 2020 12: 42 New
    +3
    After Lukashenka, it will take a long time to get Belarus out of China's "soft embrace".
    1. syndicalist
      syndicalist 23 March 2020 13: 01 New
      +6
      I am afraid that Russia will never be removed from these embraces.
  8. svp67
    svp67 23 March 2020 12: 43 New
    10
    Sohu told why China is grateful to the "small European country" - Belarus
    For what he is "grateful" to Russia and Ukraine - for the opportunity to "grab" the great Soviet legacy in the defense sphere
  9. Fishery
    Fishery 23 March 2020 13: 00 New
    -7
    China is not interested in China, the country is poorer than Africa, there are no resources, the market is tiny.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 23 March 2020 15: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: Tonya
      China is not interested in China, the country is poorer than Africa, there are no resources, the market is tiny.

      The error came out.
      Chinese NEVER и THERE IS NOTHING don't just do that.
      Everything will be "Made in Belarus", and this is the road to other countries.
      https://industrialpark.by/
      https://minsk.gov.by/ru/org/783/attach/43e652c.pdf
      1. Fishery
        Fishery 23 March 2020 15: 20 New
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        this is an exotic option))))) made in China the brand is incomparably stronger, looked through your links fluently, well, it’s not yet clear how this will end, it’s more like a product for the Russian Federation) like Belarusian shrimp.
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 23 March 2020 15: 27 New
          -1
          Quote: Tonya
          fluently your links, well, it’s not yet clear how this will end, rather a product for the Russian Federation

          Carefully look at the second link, there things are fatter than shrimp, and Russia will not refuse them.
          1. Fishery
            Fishery 23 March 2020 15: 31 New
            -2
            as I say, for the Russian Federation, I carefully looked at the list, no know-how, but there are probably many items that are now imported into the Russian Federation, and the nameplate is made in Belarus, and certainly a tax discount.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 23 March 2020 16: 31 New
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              Quote: Tonya
              There are many positions that are now imported into the Russian Federation, and the nameplate is made in Belarus, and certainly a tax discount.

              I agree.
              Know how and the Chinese say it loudly.
              So you are wrong with this statement.
              China is not interested in China, the country is poorer than Africa, there are no resources, the market is tiny.
              1. Fishery
                Fishery 23 March 2020 16: 59 New
                -3
                I have not changed my opinion, it is rather a curtsy towards the regime and an advance; there is hardly any economic interest in the country with the productivity of one Chinese province.
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 23 March 2020 20: 28 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Tonya
                  there is hardly any economic interest in a country with the productivity of one Chinese province.

                  This country is in the center of Europe and China is developing its production in Europe, 15 years ago all enterprises in Europe were transferred to China. And now China is coming to Europe ..
              2. Olezhek
                Olezhek 23 March 2020 20: 08 New
                -3
                China is not interested in China, the country is poorer than Africa, there are no resources, the market is tiny.


                for sure!
                take advantage and throw
    2. krillon
      krillon 23 March 2020 21: 10 New
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      Belarus has Russia’s main market, right? Military-industrial cooperation as well. There is always interest in which direction two countries are moving and developing and determining their priorities. I don’t know how in Belarus, but we have convicted of espionage in favor of China. And from the USA we occasionally hear accusations that Chinese hackers are downloading information from there from companies working for the Department of Defense with terabytes. So at least Burkina Faso will be interested in China if people have brains there.
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  11. Humpty
    Humpty 23 March 2020 13: 09 New
    -2
    Particularly impressive is the development of Belarusian gunsmiths - an electronic gun against drones, which is a deep processing ... of a Chinese air rifle for airsoft.
  12. V.I.P.
    V.I.P. 23 March 2020 13: 11 New
    +8
    They need to keep the military-industrial complex enterprises afloat in ordinary business. They helped China to establish the production of the MZKT chassis for ballistic missiles, they sold them a license for the Polonez MLRS. Azerbaijan bought Polonaise. Since 2017, the Chinese have supplied M20 (280 km) and A300 (300 km) missiles for the Polonaise ... Ukraine buys MAZ military trucks, also joint production of ATGMs, and the Stilet air defense system ..... They make a landing gear for Topol for us (Yars), Iskander, Bal (Bereg, Bastion), S-400, wheeled chassis for TOP and BUK (for export). We are supplied with sights for BMP2 / 3, BMPT, T-72, T-80. T-90 and for those that are exported ... (Rubezh-m, Sosna, Sosna-U. Booklet. Essa, Essa-72. Plisa, Vesna-K, Sozh-m, Tisas) …… ..
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  13. knn54
    knn54 23 March 2020 13: 13 New
    0
    "For what, without fear of sin,
    Does the cuckoo praise the Rooster?
    For the fact that he praises the Cuckoo "...
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  14. askort154
    askort154 23 March 2020 13: 22 New
    +6
    Then Alexander Lukashenko came up with the idea of ​​creating either joint Sino-Belarusian, or purely Chinese high-tech enterprises,

    Well, a master to reincarnate. After the last meeting with Putin - the face is furious, red, nodules are swollen, eyes are mad with rage. Not "batsyanya", but a bull that has not caught up with a cow.
    And in this photo - affectionate and gentle. obsequious "Ba-tsia-nya Luka-si", and even screwed up his eyes in the Chinese way. Artist!
    .Bol..l..shoy - artist! yes
  15. iouris
    iouris 23 March 2020 13: 33 New
    -6
    When "small European Belarus" will unite with China, where will the Russian Federation end up?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 23 March 2020 13: 43 New
      +5
      Quote: iouris
      When "small European Belarus" will unite with China, where will the Russian Federation end up?

      Would you rather ask - where will Belarus be? wink
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 March 2020 13: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      When "small European Belarus" will unite with China, where will the Russian Federation end up?

      Russia, where it was, will remain there, and where Belarus is, this is not known.
    3. askort154
      askort154 23 March 2020 13: 59 New
      +1
      iouris ....When "small European Belarus" will unite with China, where will the Russian Federation end up?

      Russia is in place, and Belarus will become White Mongolia. crying
  16. Sibguest
    Sibguest 23 March 2020 13: 33 New
    -1
    "According to Chinese authors, even Russia, with all its technological development, cannot do without Belarusian technologies ...."
    And who are the judges (that is, the "authors")? Are they "tested" from a country that, having started by copying the population in the 21st century, has switched to copying other people's developments?
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 23 March 2020 13: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: Sibguest
      in the 21st century switched to copying other people's designs?

      Which is characteristic, even Belarusian. fellow I have seen Chinese "textiles" with labels "for Belarus" (characteristic colors and patterns) and a sickly shift in size. yes
  17. Most kind
    Most kind 23 March 2020 13: 47 New
    +1
    They will suck up the people with a quality mark and quit, it will be fun, then the older brothers will come running again, we’re not from evil, we’re the younger ones, and this is FSE traitor Lukashenko
  18. Chief Engineer
    Chief Engineer 23 March 2020 13: 50 New
    +7
    All these technologies and enterprises were created either in the USSR, or on the basis of the achievements of the USSR, the problem of engineers who would develop these achievements did not solve, but exacerbated. There is no competition at the BNTU for engineering departments. Young people do not want to become low-paid workers. After 10 years I do not see the prospects of engineering.
  19. KJIETyc
    KJIETyc 23 March 2020 14: 04 New
    +2
    Quote: Chief Engineer
    All these technologies and enterprises were created either in the USSR, or on the basis of the achievements of the USSR, the problem of engineers who would develop these achievements did not solve, but exacerbated. There is no competition at the BNTU for engineering departments. Young people do not want to become low-paid workers. After 10 years I do not see the prospects of engineering.

    Ah, this is nonsense about low pay. at the MZKT and MTZ norms they get that turners are engineers, now orders for Saudi Arabia go.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 23 March 2020 20: 07 New
      -1
      Ah, this is nonsense about low pay. at the MZKT and MTZ norms they get that turners are engineers, now orders for Saudi Arabia go.


      Well, tell us how much did Saudi Arabia order?

      Competition in BNTU for faculties of engineering, no. Young people do not want to become low-paid workers. After 10 years I do not see the prospects of engineering.


      It is already almost dead in Belarus today.
  20. Campanella
    Campanella 23 March 2020 14: 08 New
    +3
    That's right, but what can Russia give besides raw materials at world prices?
    1. grau
      grau 23 March 2020 14: 13 New
      +3
      Sales market.
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  22. maidan.izrailovich
    maidan.izrailovich 23 March 2020 16: 38 New
    -2
    Well, that’s it. Write is gone. Now Luka will talk through the lip through GDP. laughing
  23. Polente the Wanderer
    Polente the Wanderer 23 March 2020 17: 13 New
    +1
    "cooperation between the two countries in the military-technical sector"
    Cooperation is when the exchange of technology goes both ways and not one way. The Chinese give money and receive technology
  24. Olezhek
    Olezhek 23 March 2020 20: 10 New
    0
    And yes, I can’t understand - but even for the evacuation of Belarusians from China, claims were brought against Russia
    But not to China
    How so? request
  25. Scriabin
    Scriabin 24 March 2020 06: 30 New
    0
    Do not have to ...
  26. gregor6549
    gregor6549 24 March 2020 07: 22 New
    +1
    I rarely began to visit the site in order not to infect readers with all kinds of viruses. But this article has caught my attention.
    Firstly, it should be noted that cooperation between Belarus and China in the military sphere began a long time ago, somewhere in the early 90s. Then an impressive delegation of the Defense Ministry and the Military Industry of Belarus headed by Lukashenka went to China. The reason for the trip was the fact that Russia then abruptly stopped purchasing military (and not only military) products of the Republic of Belarus and enterprises had to somehow survive. And China at the same time experienced a serious need for modern military technologies. The delegation included Gen. Director of our NPO AGAT, who by that time had developed and launched into production a large number of various PU, KShM and other objects that were part of the ACS by the troops of the "Maneuver" front. Some of the products were delivered to the GSVG, but then the GSVG ordered to live a long time for well-known reasons, and all these developments "hung in the air." Therefore, the Belarusian industry faced the Hamlet question "to be or not to be" and one of the solutions to this issue was the development of economic ties with everyone who was interested in the products of this industry.
    Subsequently, it was possible to restore some ties in this regard with Russia, but they were clearly not enough to keep the sinking industry of the Republic of Belarus afloat. Therefore, Lukashenko’s actions in this regard look quite reasonable. Lukashenko’s caution regarding the unification of the Republic of Belarus and Russia is also understandable, especially since Russia's attempts to bite the Republic of Belarus on its heels have not stopped so far. Alas, not everything is clean and beautiful there in this matter.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 24 March 2020 07: 53 New
      -4
      Firstly, it should be noted that cooperation between Belarus and China in the military sphere began a long time ago, somewhere in the early 90s. Then an impressive delegation of the Defense Ministry and the Military Industry of Belarus headed by Lukashenko went to China. The reason for the trip was that Russia then abruptly stopped purchasing military (and not only military) products of the Republic of Belarus and enterprises needed to somehow survive.



      Yes, only the way
      The trouble is - if Russia bought it on an ongoing basis, China is interested in picking up technology once.
      Today, China has sucked the Belarusian defense industry to the bottom ..
      And where will you go?
      Who do you need?
      Yes, dear, and who will arm the Belarusian army and who will defend Belarus?
      China? Are you sure? Or is your best friend Mishiko Saakashvili?

      Subsequently, it was possible to restore some ties in this regard with Russia, but they were clearly not enough to keep the sinking industry of the Republic of Belarus afloat. Therefore, Lukashenko’s actions in this regard look quite reasonable.


      Therefore, cooperation with Ukraine?
      The supply of weapons to the National Bats for the killing of Russians in the Donbass?
      Reasonable of course.
      As a result, Russia removes economic support for Belarus
      и all Belarusian economy goes to the bottom.
      Is this your plan ??

      Lukashenko’s caution regarding the unification of the Republic of Belarus and Russia is also understandable, especially since Russia's attempts to bite the Republic of Belarus on its heels have not stopped so far. Alas, not everything is clean and beautiful there in this matter.


      Could you tell me, dear, how this "integration" has been expressed over the past 20 years?
      And if you are so careful - why take someone else's money?
      Live on your own.
      By the way, how much Belarus has earned in. China? Tell me.
      1. gregor6549
        gregor6549 24 March 2020 14: 58 New
        0
        I do not enter high spheres, therefore I can’t give any figures. I just expressed a simple thought, like a rake. When a person or a country is driven into a corner, then both the person and the country try to break out of this corner by all possible means. The fact that these methods are not always liked by the beater is already a personal matter of the beater.
        Here is the time to recall I.V. Stalin. So that and whoever talks about him, he was the greatest politician of his time and tried to attract into the allies (and successfully attracted) even those who have always been a potential enemy of the USSR. And this to a large extent helped the USSR to create a powerful industrial potential in the pre-war period and to survive in the most difficult times of the Second World War.
        The leadership of Russia, alas, often does exactly the opposite, scattering left and right its former allies and entering into dubious alliances with those who cannot be such allies by definition. Well, I want him, the leadership of Russia and those who are behind him to knock off more money at once. But money goes mostly into personal pockets, including those "patriots" who have in their pockets for a long time even a foreign passport. And this money is then invested in the economy of those very likely opponents. So why roll a barrel on RB? Indeed, in the event of a big disaster, Belarus will definitely be in the same trenches with Russia, regardless of economic ties with China and other different Swedes.
  27. sanik2020
    sanik2020 24 March 2020 12: 13 New
    +1
    One example, the Americans involved a bunch of allies in the F-35 project and now dozens of countries buy and order this mediocre airplane, not from competitors but from the United States, because they are financially involved in the project.
    Why did Russia go into deaf import substitution from its allies and do not involve them in joint projects, using the potential of all to the maximum?
    For both devices, Peleng OJSC developed an optical-electronic telescopic complex, which from a height of 550 km at a viewing angle of up to 45 degrees gives a resolution of 2 m

    Now the resolution is 30 cm.
    Recently, Rogozin was in Minsk precisely because of the poor quality of import substitution in the space industry and the greater involvement of Belarusian electronics and optics, but space is not the only industry in the military-industrial complex.
    Only together for a single result will everyone benefit.
  28. sanik2020
    sanik2020 24 March 2020 12: 24 New
    +1
    as I say, for the Russian Federation, I carefully looked at the list, no know-how, but there are probably a lot of items that are now imported into the Russian Federation, and the nameplate is made in Belarus, and certainly a tax discount

    You should not look at the wall inscriptions in the toilet.
  29. Doliva63
    Doliva63 24 March 2020 18: 51 New
    0
    Quote: Uncle Izya
    Forced alliance against Germans and Mongols did not chop off

    Read the story ON, or something. Forced Union laughing