Scientists: After the coronavirus pandemic, the world will not be the same

Although many still do not realize this, the surge in the incidence of coronavirus on the planet has already begun to change the global world order. But it is still unknown in what direction the world community begins to move.

To understand the direction of this movement, the Foreign Policy publication conducted a survey among experts from around the world.

12 scientists from the USA, European and Asian countries were considered, which are considered recognized authorities in the field of political science and economics.

And although there are differences in their forecasts, there are much more common points. Most of them believe that a pandemic will lead to a change in the world order. Many people think that humanity will move away from the path of globalization and become more closed within the borders of its national states. In particular, this point of view is shared by the director of the Royal Institute of International Relations, Robin Niblett:

A coronavirus pandemic can become the very straw that will break the back of a camel of economic globalization.

Ex-Advisor to the Prime Minister of India on National Security, Shivshankar Menor, painted a picture of the future world order after the pandemic in gloomy colors:

We are moving to a poorer, more evil and smaller world.

Although, for example, Kishor Mahbubani, Honored Researcher at the National University of Singapore, believes that the surge in coronavirus will only accelerate trends that have occurred much earlier. He believes that globalism will not go anywhere. Just the world center will move from the USA to China.

He is also echoed by the deputy director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies:

Washington has failed the leadership test, and the world will not benefit from it.

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[svp67]

Scientists: After the coronavirus pandemic, the world will not be the same

Do not go to a fortuneteller ... after any shock, the world is changing, but by how much, I really hope that we will find out

[svp67]

Quote: Insults

Well, Russia will remain the same ...

Outwardly - yes, internally - no. The labor market, it is already clear that it will change, more people will work "remotely", which will affect other areas, the same market for "office space", it will clearly shrink, but the IT market is waiting for a rise

[Spartanez300]

The most important question for today is how long this surge will last and how many lives it will take, as well as who and when will end it. So far, there are no decisions about this and this virus is triumphantly marching around the planet. And the fact that the world will change, so it is already changing before our eyes and shows who is who in this world. And it is still unknown what it will result in in the end, as it becomes uncomfortable when every day you read statistics about many new diseases. It is entirely possible that the planet decided to repay people for all their dirty tricks in relation to nature, all these fantastic films involuntarily come to mind about the mowing of humanity on this basis.

[svp67]

Quote: Spartanez300

and who and when will end it.

Who started, that will end ... with time. Mother nature. Each such disaster always has a beginning and an end ... A person now can only help her a little and wait for the conditions when the pandemic wanes

[For example]

Quote: svp67

more people will work "remotely"

Tractor drivers will remotely control the tractor.
The plumber will remotely control the vandus.
The doctor will remotely treat.

Well, in general, a person will live remotely.
A chip will be introduced into a born child. U will begin to feed and grow him remotely.
Learn to live remotely.
This creature will grow remotely in its remote apartment, hole, den, room, capsule (underline as necessary).

All this crap.
You simply repeat what you hear and see in the media.
The state of distant people is nonsense of narrow-minded people. In fact, these are the fruits of horseradish education.

A person does not live on this planet for the sake of a computer and remote communication with someone.

[Pathos]

A person has long lived on this planet remotely and it’s sad you just don’t notice it around and this was facilitated by the appearance of a personal computer, i.e. Well, as a continuation of the accompanying gadgets, someone guessed to cross the moron and iPad and away we go. What you described above is already all in the near future, but something already exists. There is a century of automation excluding the human factor, civil aviation pilots are pilots with a stretch they are more observers and soon they will not be in the cockpit after the 2008 crisis, a huge number of office plankton was reduced. IT workers and office workers can work on a remote site at each house. There is an office on your computer and there is an Internet of this. You can print a text document in your office without getting out of bed.

[Shahno]

Here. We must observe the old .. And then you will live remotely.

[Rzzz]

Quote: For example

Tractor drivers will remotely control the tractor

In fact, this is not even science fiction. Unmanned agricultural machinery exists and is already fully operational.

[antivirus]

who will grow garlic?
and sell at the crossroads? - grannies will always be

[unhappy]

In fact, this is not even science fiction. Unmanned agricultural machinery exists and is already fully operational.

Is this an argument? A tractor at the price of a mars rover when the peasants are forced to work on the "ferrous metal" of the USSR times. Wake up, no offense.

[Rzzz]

This is an argument. World practice shows that no selfless work makes sense if there is a technique that does the job more, faster, better and cheaper. The peasants on Chermet are going down in history even with us.

[Reptiloid]

Someone mentioned the successes of Soviet epidemiologists when they fought with smallpox .....
There were no epidemics during the Second World War and after, although there was an evacuation of both people and industry.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Insults

Quote: Spartanez300

The most important question for today is how long this surge will continue and how many lives it will take, as well as who and when will end it

You are clearly infected with hysteria ... In a month or two, everyone will forget about it, well, only the most nervous will sneeze on the Internet ..))))

Maybe you're right. Over the past 20 years, there was swine flu, there was bird flu, there was Zika and Ebola, there were outbreaks of measles and polio, mouse fever, etc. Almost every five years, humanity was predicted to die, and again. If we take statistics, then annually much more people die from diabetes or cancer than for all the above-mentioned phenomena of forgotten and new viruses. If the last time pharmaceutical companies earned $ 100 billion, then on this pandemic they will earn an order of magnitude more. The mere sale of penny at the cost price of weightless medical masks will bring tons of gold. Do not be sick, wash your hands and do not hang out unnecessarily in crowded places and all will be happy.

[Ka-52]

If the last time pharmaceutical companies earned $ 100 billion, then on this pandemic they will earn an order of magnitude more

very naive judgment

If we take statistics, then annually much more people die from diabetes or cancer than for all the above-mentioned phenomena of forgotten and new viruses

far-fetched argument. Neither cancer nor diabetes itself spreads. Take, for example, the bacteria Yersinia pestis (plague) or the Ebola virus. With the development of the focus only due to timely and powerful mobilization efforts, it is possible to localize them and prevent the spread of the disease. If there were no preventive measures, the plague and Ebola would mow the cities no worse than in the 17th century.
In the case of the coronovirus, the same thing - only a massive mobilization of forces manages to contain it. In China, almost succeeded. In Italy, did not have time.

[Nyrobsky]

Why naive? Here you can look at how events unfolded with the past pandemic, who earned how and how. What unfolds today is very reminiscent of the events of 10 years ago, only more heated through the media.
https://niferon.livejournal.com/8522.html

[Simargl]

Quote: Spartanez300

The most important question for today is how long this surge will last and how many lives it will take.

Judging by the distribution of mortality (up to 40 years - 0,4%, after 60 years - 14%), this is a conspiracy of pension funds.
It will continue until the vaccine is invented, and then - as with smallpox.

[Voltsky]

these data are not true, the main factor is - already existing problems with human health; that is, if you have already been diagnosed with serious health problems, a stroke, a heart attack or nothing else that is just as dangerous to your health, then you are at risk regardless of age.
The only thing is that usually with age you get this wonderful package of chronic ailments; but this does not mean that every person in age is at risk; nevertheless, a number of precautions will not be superfluous.

[Simargl]

Quote: Voletsky

The only thing is

... that this is statistics and it takes into account (shows) that with age, sores increase and, as a result, mortality increases.

[Voltsky]

So far, there are no decisions about this and this virus is triumphantly marching around the planet.

not nice but not as depressing as you think:
world health organization - WHO
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

[den3080]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Insults

Well, Russia will remain the same ...

Outwardly - yes, internally - no. The labor market, it is already clear that it will change, more people will work "remotely", which will affect other areas, the same market for "office space", it will clearly shrink, but the IT market is waiting for a rise

udalenka - for office plankton and his superiors.
But really:
1. Food and essential goods must be produced, stored, sorted, stored and delivered by someone. This is done by hand, that is, physical labor.
food and toilet paper - flowers, for the first time, enduring is not a question.
And then - clothes, shoes and a lot of everything else.
Repair in the apartment / house who will do?
2. Cars and generally transport need to be serviced, as well as elevators, electrics, plumbing. Hands, physically.
3. Garbage should be removed, disposed of.
4. More than one coronavirus affects a person. About other diseases how? Cores, diabetics, cancer patients, how? It is necessary to physically treat, with hands.
And to give birth? Did the tooth get sick?
5. With education, how? You can read on the Internet, approx. What about practical exercises? Not only at school, as you understand.

I think that everyone will get used to coronavirus and it will weaken, vaccines will be developed. And much will continue.

[svp67]

Quote: den3080

udalenka - for office plankton and his superiors.

Which we now have in abundance.

Quote: den3080

But really:

Everything that you have listed will remain, but this is far from the entire economy and this "epidemiological crisis" should give an increased growth of the IT economy, and this will greatly affect what you just listed.

Quote: den3080

Someone must produce, store, sort, store and deliver food and essential goods. This is done with hands, that is, physical labor.

Mechanisms under remote control will already do a lot of this.

Quote: den3080

With education, how? You can read on the Internet, approx. What about practical exercises? Not only at school, as you understand.

Teaching practices will also change; more will be distance education.
Transport - it will change according to anyone, it’s not for nothing that they are promoting 5J, now it will get acceleration ...
The state that will be able to be the first to implement these changes to the maximum extent will become a leader, for many - not a leader

[den3080]

Yes, you wrote everything perfectly. Only it will not be tomorrow or next year or even after 5-10 years, but much later.
Fine mechanisms who will design? Cars will do everything and then why a man? On a remote series to watch ??
However, this was predicted in the cartoon "The Secret of the Third Planet" :)

pay attention to the sign :)) on the building in the video ... for the present ...

[svp67]

Quote: den3080

Cars will do everything and then why a man?

But this is a question to which capitalism does not give a worthy answer, from where is the idea of ​​creating a "golden billion", from where is the practice of population reduction in countries, communism was good here, he knew what a person should do in such conditions, bad, that he did not know practical ways of how to get there ... And I can add that it is a pity.

[syndicalist]

Then really were not visible ways to solve many problems. According to Thomas More, mental and physical, for example, should be involved in the removal of sewage. Now the solution to this and many other problems can be seen quite clearly. It now seems that it will take decades to see real change. In the same way, only 20 years ago they talked about mobile communications.

[11 Ivan Ivanov]

in the cartoon installation. This is a provocation

[den3080]

Quote: 11 Ivan Ivanov

in the cartoon installation. This is a provocation

By the way, yes!!! I looked at other passages and there is no this sign!
delete post
Did not work out:(

[Fat]

Quote: svp67

Quote: den3080

udalenka - for office plankton and his superiors.

Which we now have in abundance.

Quote: den3080

But really:

Everything that you have listed will remain, but this is far from the entire economy and this "epidemiological crisis" should give an increased growth of the IT economy, and this will greatly affect what you just listed.

Quote: den3080

Someone must produce, store, sort, store and deliver food and essential goods. This is done with hands, that is, physical labor.

Mechanisms under remote control will already do a lot of this.

Quote: den3080

With education, how? You can read on the Internet, approx. What about practical exercises? Not only at school, as you understand.

Teaching practices will also change; more will be distance education.
Transport - it will change according to anyone, it’s not for nothing that they are promoting 5J, now it will get acceleration ...
The state that will be able to be the first to implement these changes to the maximum extent will become a leader, for many - not a leader

The first time I watched the film "surrogates" was in 2009. Thanks for the brief retelling of the idea of ​​the film.)))

[Voltsky]

Quote: svp67

this "epidemiological crisis" should give an increased growth of the IT economy, and this will greatly affect what you just listed.

Why ?! not that lack of bosses, general depression, and panic swelling around the media have a positive effect on productivity ?!

Quote: svp67

Mechanisms under remote control will already do a lot of this.

Sorry, that ?! I am in some way connected with automation systems, and I have a question. What the hell are you talking about ?!

Quote: svp67

Teaching practices will also change; more will be distance education.
Transport - it will change according to anyone, it’s not for nothing that they are promoting 5J, now it will get acceleration ...
The state that will be able to be the first to implement these changes to the maximum extent will become a leader, for many - not a leader

1G and not 5J
2. You need to work for this, so that there are changes and people like me are needed, or even preferably several times smarter ... but we either work at home or work in the field, we work with pens and we don’t remotely.
3. I’ll tell you a secret, robots, bots and other rubbish, you need to connect it, there are a lot of power cables, weak currents, profin / network and other wonders, and then you need to fix all this, and you need a person to watch this.

ps
zb schoolchildren and plankton :) it feels like you think that we already have a revolution in robotics and that a nafig man is not needed :)

[bk316]

But really:

Well, here's the first person who DOES NOT consider the pandemic an EVENT, not a blizzard like "there is no coronavirus - it's a fake" or "everyone will forget about it in a month" and carefully laid out the points. First of all thanks.

Secondly, I think that you are both right and wrong.

1. Everything will get used to coronavirus and it will weaken; vaccines will be developed. - I think so too.
2. And much will continue. - uniquely

But
1. Remote - for office plankton and his superiors. - aldeady no.
Designers, programmers, doctors, consultants and diagnosticians (but in reality they are the majority), teachers, accountants - in the field of specialties; communications, IT, trade - by sector. They will leave for a remote place and will not return well, or not quite return. I don’t know what you are doing now. I’m transferring people to this very remote place for the fifth day. I think in Moscow more than a million people will leave and not return, several millions across the country - this is a revolution.

2. This is done by hand, that is, physical labor. - even now, no, look at the modern warehouse - there are no people visible. Follow the entire chain from development to the counter, as it is not surprising that almost all the people providing the process are hustling at the counter - this is not necessary and it will go away.

3. Now "they" will weld - yes, many people will weld, well, maybe 100 billion dollars, but the losses will be trillions.

[Voltsky]

2. This is done by hand, that is, physical labor. - even now, no, look at the modern warehouse - there are no people visible.

what to look at ?! on the one from the best man or vitron or dimatik or honwell?! :)
do not carry nonsense :)

[Lelek]

Quote: svp67

Externally - yes, internally - no.

, Sergei
I am skeptical about changing the WHOLE world. Some kind of movement will take place, but no one can predict which direction by 70%. Right now, the media is raging with a prediction about the lifting of EU sanctions against Russia and a restart of our relations. IMHO, nothing so cardinal will not happen, "Europe" will once again use the good nature of Russia, and then again a hoof in the tailbone. And the fact that they are making cute faces for us today is free blah blah.

[Astra wild]

Sergey, it sounds cynical, but the coronovirus brought benefits. Tourists who have great difficulty getting home next time will think: is it worth the risk?
100 tourists abroad. Where people take funds to the Bahamas or the Maldives, I only get such money sometimes, but that's not the point. If there is money and time, why not spend it domestically? I am sure some who in the future will not want to look for

[Irokez]

Quote: Insults

Well, Russia will remain the same

No way - Russia is always changing for the better (although some say the opposite) and thereby changing the world around it because the world always and everywhere adjusts itself to any changes. It all depends on the people, on their will, desire and firmness and, of course, mutually beneficial compromises.

[mitroha]

We are moving to a poorer, more evil and smaller world.

Under the banner of capitalism of another world, it cannot happen a priori. Man to man is a wolf.
Only a change in the path of human development to a socialist one can breathe new life into this civilization, but here we need a locomotive setting an example, which at the moment is simply not there, unfortunately

[AU Ivanov.]

Well, how not? And the DPRK is a reserve of this very socialism. A state with the highest standard of living, rich and developed, here you have a locomotive.

[mitroha]

In vain irony. You can tell what peaks the USSR would have achieved in the absence of counteraction of the capitalist countries? And the fact that the DPRK is still developing under the conditions of savage pressure and sanctions from most Western countries only proves my point

[AU Ivanov.]

We live in a real, not an ideal world. And in it, capitalism showed a higher vitality. All according to Darwin.

[svp67]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

And in it, capitalism showed a higher vitality.

But not in this situation. Semi-communist China has shown more resilience than the capitalist countries now show.

[AU Ivanov.]

China is successfully building capitalism, taking into account the mistakes of others, and therefore it is on horseback. From communism there are only signs.

[svp67]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

From communism there are only signs.

I do not agree. Part of the ideology there is clearly communist.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: svp67

I do not agree. Part of the ideology there is clearly communist.

In addition to power in the hands of the CCP, from communism there is N-I-H-E-G-O.

[bk316]

Part of the ideology there is clearly communist.

Which one? What do you generally mean by communist ideology?

[Simargl]

Quote: svp67

Semi-communist China has shown more resilience than the capitalist countries now show.

No! What we see is a consequence of tradition: the Chinese are more disciplined than the Italians ...

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

You are a little mistaken. In DPRK, it is not socialism, but Juche, these are all different things.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

juche

This is socialism based on its own strengths and capabilities, that's all.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

No. Everything is much more interesting there, and the differences are quite large. I would say that this is a mixture of socialism, Confucianism and attitude of Comrade Kim :)

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

No. Everything is much more interesting there, and the differences are quite large. I would say that this is a mixture of socialism, Confucianism and attitude of Comrade Kim :)

Companions from the Kim dynasty)).

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

I can not agree :)))

[Fat]

Quote: Mitroha

Man to man is a wolf.

The nature of the relationship in the pack is altruistic. That is, each animal subordinates its personal interests to the interests of the entire "collective." In other relationships, the pack cannot exist as a single organism. The rank of the animal depends on the level of development of the psyche, and not only on physical data.

After all, as you know, it is not so much the strongest that survives as the most intelligent. And the leader has to organize a hunt (for wolves a group driven type of hunting, which requires a good organization), make decisions on the division of prey. Therefore, peace reigns in the pack. The younger ones obey the elders and feel completely protected, while the elders bear the burden of responsibility for everyone.
The wolf pack has seven ranks, it is a well-organized society where everyone understands their rights and obligations. Management takes place without power, everything is clearly organized, roles are distributed, no one holds anyone back, but for some reason everyone chooses a joint existence. The allocation of social ranks in a pack is weakly related to gender and seniority by age. These factors, like physical strength, only provide useful functions, nothing more.

After killing the deer, the wolves stop hunting until all the meat is over and hunger does not make them get down to business again.

The leader is the highest social rank. Assumes responsibility for the entire flock. The leader resolves issues of habitat, hunting, protection, organizes everyone, sets ranks in the pack.

The leader shall use his preferential right to food at his own discretion. For example, gives its share to puppies if there is not enough food. His tasks include caring for everyone, and puppies are the future of the pack.

If a starving leader is unable to lead the pack, everyone will be in danger, so his preferential right to food is not in dispute. I would give the last piece myself, just to feel protected!

It is interesting that the leader is deprived of the right to protection, because in moments of danger only he makes responsible decisions, the rest of the pack follow his orders.

Warrior - individuals of any gender can occupy this rank. If this is a she-wolf, then she should not be busy raising offspring.

Warriors are a leader’s team that provides security and food for the pack. In the event of an attack on defense, only warriors stand up; the rest of the pack has other tasks.

Senior warrior - organizes hunting and guarding, a contender for the role of leader in the event of his death or inability to lead the pack.

Mother is an adult she-wolf who has experience in raising wolf cubs. She can fulfill the duties of a mother both in relation to her cubs and in relation to the children of less experienced mothers. The birth of “children” does not automatically translate a she-wolf into the rank of mother. As for any other rank, a certain psychophysical development is required here, the ability to make decisions necessary for life.

The mother's tasks include raising and raising offspring. In the event of an attack on the flock, it is the mother who takes all the weak to a safe place, while the warriors hold the defenses.

Elder mother - if necessary, can take the rank of leader. With a senior warrior never competes. The freed rank is the most worthy, able to manage the pack. There are no fights to identify a stronger one.

During the period of feeding and raising children, all mothers of the flock are under special protection and guardianship.

Reproduction - in wolves, and this side of life is organized very beautifully. Once a year, a flock breaks up into families to give birth and raise offspring. Not everyone is allowed to reproduce. The main condition is to understand your place and role in a large flock family. Therefore, those who do not have a couple live in a small wolf family third, helping to hunt and raise wolf cubs.

Pairs of wolves - for life. If one of the partners dies, a new pair is not created ...

Guardian - is responsible for raising the wolf cubs. Two subranks stand out: pestun and uncle.

Pestun - young she-wolves or wolves, not claiming the rank of warrior, who have grown up young animals of the previous litter. They are subordinate to their mothers and carry out their orders, receiving the skills of education and training of young wolf cubs. These are their first responsibilities in the pack.

Uncle is an adult male who does not have his own family and helps to breed cubs.

Signaler - alert the flock about the dangers. The decision is made by the more responsible members of the pack.

A puppy is the sixth rank, no responsibility other than obedience to the elders, but gives a preferential right to food and protection.

A disabled person is not a crippled, but simply an old individual, has the right to food and protection. Wolves take care of their old people. (C) Elena Kuzmina.

[x.andvlad]

I think that the changes will be five years, maybe ten. Then, if there are no other shocks, everything will gradually return to its previous state. Globalization to some extent brings comfort and prosperity. And mankind is unlikely to refuse it.
There are many examples where history teaches little.

[dzvero]

Nuts will tighten, definitely. More than two are not going to. Cash will be reduced, large bills will be withdrawn, all payments in excess of $ 3 only by card. Salary cut, not everyone, of course, someone will increase to compensate The worst thing - everyone will be forced to register in the facebook .

[Ivan Kolodin]

Great, Putin’s new nobility came up with all the tidbits for themselves to be privatized, under the slogan of the struggle against the West, all dissenters and who stutter about the USSR under the hood, surrounded themselves with guards and the Russian Guard on every
protest, but the people do not have to stick to the time to swing .... Here you have the real totalitarian state ... In its worst execution ....
Ahead is only a new feudal system ... the king, there is a new nobility, as Patrushev said, there are boyars right there, gendarmes are in place ... The time has come for breakthroughs as the Emperor said .....

[dzvero]

And then your president? About neo-feudalism, there has long been talk of it. In my opinion, Russia will not take root.
In my post above, despite smiles, not irony or sarcasm, but a prediction (in how ) about the end of the year. Something is already being introduced (about more than two not going), the rest will gradually be introduced. A plausible pretext - concern for "society" like temporarily, but, as usual, they forget to cancel ...

[Terenin]

It’s obvious to everyone that

. Washington failed leadership test

Ah, this is doubtful that

. the world will not benefit from it.

especially to Russia

[tihonmarine]

Quote: svp67

Do not go to a fortuneteller ... after any shock, the world is changing, but by how much, I really hope that we will find out

They say as if we don’t know this. But more than us, no one has tested it. The revolution of 1905, the Great War, the Revolution, the Civil War, the Great Patriotic War, perestroika, the collapse of the country. Yes, in comparison with this, caronavirus and its consequences are just children's games.

[LiSiCyn]

Sergey, welcome
EU, "bursting at the seams" ... A scandal, on a scandal. The Czech Republic confiscated humanitarian aid from China to Italy. Masks and respirators in the amount of 600 thousand. Basis, suspicion of smuggling. With the subsequent illegal sale. They immediately opened the packages so as not to give them away. All documents were in order. Italians are shocked. China has promised more, but time is playing against Italy. And such cases are already a wagon.

[den3080]

Quote: svp67

Scientists: After the coronavirus pandemic, the world will not be the same

Do not go to a fortuneteller ... after any shock, the world is changing, but by how much, I really hope that we will find out

People google about the Spanish flu. The "Spanish" in mortality overtook the number of victims of the First World War ... and so on.
Now it will be much less. I am personally 100% sure of this.
The main thing is not to panic, because everything has already happened before.

[iouris]

Quote: svp67

after any shock, the world is changing

That's for sure. The question remains to the essence: what exactly is this "shock" that will "change" the future world if the pandemic is man-made? The old world could no longer be preserved, and to begin the process of transition to the "new world" (social revolution) a "magic pendel" is needed. The pandemic started very early.
In 2001, the United States was "attacked". What is the bottom line: legalization of methods of total control over the population of the United States and the rest of the world on the basis of information technology. Some of the most important "human rights" (Western values) no longer exist: force majeure. "Liberals", hello!

[Michael67]

Globally, nothing will change in the world. The modern world is ruled by capital. Capital will adjust everything in its favor and run into a virus that he himself created and which he himself released from the test tube.

[iouris]

Quote: Michael67

The modern world is ruled by capital.

This is yes. But capital has become more complex. But there are several competing groups. Which one of them lost, which one transforms this "wonderful world" for its own purposes? And most importantly, "... what will happen to the Motherland and to us"? AND?

[Michael67]

I'm sorry, what? Strengthen friends - Army and Navy. Then everything with the Motherland will be fine. And bring up the offspring in an appropriate manner. To do this, amend the Constitution relating to state. ideology and censorship. I got a tv about freaks and perverts.

[iouris]

Quote: Michael67

I got a tv about freaks and perverts.

The changes have already begun: Koftun has been expelled in disgrace.

[Michael67]

Koftun is a character for the show. His exile is also a show. It would not be a show, all this shellup would have long been expelled from the country and forgotten. Until the Constitution is amended regarding state. ideologies and censorship such booths will take place.

[iouris]

At the hearing, any judge will tell you: "Why are you referring to the constitution to me here? Refer to the norms of substantive law."

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: iouris

In a court session, any judge will tell you: “Why are you referring to the constitution to me? Refer to substantive law."

To delirium ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: svp67

Do not go to a fortuneteller ... after any shock, the world is changing, but by how much, I really hope that we will find out

We are waiting for, and especially Europe, not good times. And if you consider that this infection in an altered form is returning, then in general it becomes sad.

[Voltsky]

I, as in a sense, am a lover of history, and I don’t want to find out a damn thing about the border: / For according to the analysis, historical data usually have such crises that end in something extremely unpleasant.

[bober1982]

There will be a wonderful world, everything is according to O. Huxley, and without scientists it is clear that now they are preparing.

[Fishery]

the Chinese demonstrated an extremely high level of medicine, quarantine organizations, stopped all production processes in the world, expelled foreigners, forbade eating some wild animals, bought assets, will now teach everyone around the world how to deal with the virus, and finally showed that China is ready for war biological weapons are better than everyone else.

[bober1982]

Quote: Tonya

the Chinese have shown an extremely high level

Not quite so, using the example of the Chinese, they showed how to establish strict total control over citizens.
The epidemic will pass, a significant number of citizens will lose their lives, but this control will remain, maybe even toughened.

[Fishery]

they have total control over a relatively long time, balls, ratings of citizens, and so on, but quarantining 10 lyam immediately and disinfecting all the streets is cool.

[bober1982]

Quote: Tonya

total control they have a relatively long time

Yes, I agree, and now this priceless Chinese experience is being applied to a well-fed and prosperous Europe.
And, they found or created a reason, which is most likely.

[Voltsky]

cool !!!

I'm not very China either, but your data is from where? :) I've known from a couple of dozen, where the "big brother" will increase. But I would not have mastered such a flight of thought, where do you get inspiration?

[mitroha]

the Chinese have shown an extremely high level

forbidden to eat some wild animals

This is really cool!
Sorry, could not resist

[protoss]

the chinas demonstrated to the whole world that they should be closed from them, like from a plague. this is not the first infection that comes from these animals, eating all kinds of rubbish.
it will be cheaper and safer for everyone to close their borders for them forever.

[Fishery]

First you need to throw away your computer made in China))) it will not work to close the borders from them) you can not survive the Chinese sanctions)

[protoss]

First you need to throw your computer made in China

anyone can produce this junk. for all, it will be cheaper and safer to spend money on transferring production from these nonhumans to normal homo sapiens.

[Fishery]

)) but they don’t produce) I have been to China several times, of course they are not entirely clear to us, not humane and others, but alas, the comparison in terms of growth, service and performance is not in favor of not only the former USSR but also the old world.

[iouris]

Quote: Tonya

the Chinese have demonstrated an extremely high level of medicine

The Chinese demonstrated the power of their authoritarian (totalitarian) system during the "special period." NATO and the EU "also demonstrated." So "what is the strength, brother (sister)"?

[Fishery]

the highest percentage of people who have recovered, treatment regimens, tests, dressings, ventilators, are all being taken from China now, the USSR has demonstrated a lot of things in the Second World War as well, the main result, Italy is bent and China is no longer there.

[Liam]

What and how real was (and is) in China only the Central Committee of the Party of China knows. Censorship is not in vain cherished for so many years.
What can I say unequivocally, China is a hotbed of all the world's infections at the last 30 years in the world. This is definitely not a sign of great effectiveness

[Fishery]

it's just a new reality from them - due to nutrition and population
and they eat everything with chopsticks in their mouths and back to the common plate)) well, they eat all kinds of muck, although the northern cuisine is good)) dumplings in particular

[Liam]

Their new reality is insane rhythms of urbanization with a disregard for the elementary rules of ecology. These cities, growing by leaps and bounds, expand by invading the habitats of wild animals and people come into close contact with them. Contacts are also a kind exchange of viruses between species. , plague and so on-diseases that a person picked up when he began to tame and live in close contact with animal-cows, sheep, horses, pigs, etc.

[mitroha]

"Many people think that humanity will move away from the path of globalization and become more closed within the borders of its national states."
Experts, damn it. This would be possible only if all states had an independent policy. In real life, they will not get anywhere from the ship, older brothers will tell you how to proceed. Do you want to break globalization?

[Irokez]

Scientists: After the coronavirus pandemic, the world will not be the same

Clear pepper - no one has ever returned physically to the past (only mentally - with imagination and memory). Yes, and scientists do not need to be. And the scientists who said this probably the British?

[alien]

Dear forum users, until the world has changed, let's try to find logical answers to these questions on coronavirus that interest everyone:
1. Why in the West buy up "toilet paper"?
2. Why did Britain abandon the initial strategy to combat coronavirus and take tougher measures (closing educational institutions, postponing sports events)?
3. What is the relationship between the number of mechanical ventilation (drugs for mechanical ventilation) and the number of patients? And why is Italy lacking mechanical ventilation?
4. What precautions should be taken, or why not panic is NOT EQUAL to treat the epidemic frivolously?
5. When will it end?

1. Why in the West buy up "toilet paper"?
Scientists have found that the new coronavirus:
- Stays on plastic surfaces for up to three days;
- on stainless steel, copper up to two days;
- fabric, cardboard, napkin from several hours to two days - it all depends on temperature and humidity.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-survives-on-surfaces-how-to-protect-yourself/

That is, paper towels (roll) are bought more so that after washing with hand soap - wiped and discarded. And do not expose yourself to danger through a tissue towel - again "pick up" the virus.

2. Why did Britain abandon the initial strategy to combat coronavirus and take tougher measures (closing educational institutions, postponing sports events)?
Over 83% of massive 2019-nCoV virus infections occur in families. Such data were cited by the PRC State Health Committee.
The remaining cases of mass infections were recorded in medical institutions, food services, villages, supermarkets and shopping centers, enterprises, vehicles, nursing homes and schools.
Those. the risk of infection in public places is high. And, even in the mild form of the course of the disease, young people are carriers of the virus, respectively, the risk of infecting everyone else (especially the elderly) is increasing.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Alien

Dear forum users, until the world has changed, let's try to find logical answers to these questions on coronavirus that interest everyone:
1. Why in the West buy up "toilet paper"?

In order to slow down the printing of unsecured currency .

[den3080]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Quote: Alien

Dear forum users, until the world has changed, let's try to find logical answers to these questions on coronavirus that interest everyone:
1. Why in the West buy up "toilet paper"?

In order to slow down the printing of unsecured currency .

No. I heard such an explanation: One sneezed - 10 managed.

[alien]

Quote: den3080

No. I heard such an explanation: One sneezed - 10 managed.

“In the Stavropol Territory, another 11 suspicions of coronavirus were revealed. This was announced by the Governor of the Stavropol Territory Vladimir Vladimirov on his Instagram page
On March 19, those who were in contact with a patient suspected of coronavirus were tested. The materials were sent for re-examination in Novosibirsk. At the moment, people are isolated and are under the supervision of doctors. 500 people checked on March 19, 700 on March 20. More than 300 people in the region were sent for quarantine as a preventive measure. ”

https://atvmedia.ru/news/social/18340?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews

[Fishery]

the habit of buying paper from the time of the war in Vietnam, then there was a shortage, this is the memory of citizens)) as we have with buckwheat)

[Vadim237]

This is not memory - this is the effect of a herd of sheep.

[Fishery]

))) most citizens this is a herd

[Liam]

They buy paper as other things for reasonable reasons. Going to the store during quarantine is an extra risk of getting infected. Besides, during quarantine, because of the need to keep a distance of 1,5 m between people, not everyone comes into the store at once, but several people do. in the queue on the street. So it’s 2-3 hours. Therefore, it’s better to buy in advance so as not to go 2 times

[Fishery]

I agree here, and in the United States often stores are not within walking distance, hence large packages of goods that are not familiar to us, so it’s normal to leave a couple of large packages in a pickup truck and spend less time shopping

[Van 16]

Wait and see.

[Olya Tsako]

An over-the-dollar dollar is driving global inflation. Next is the poverty of the whole planet: only the rich earn on cheap money. We know from our own experience: the pyramid will collapse sooner or later, but necessarily. It doesn’t matter what presses the trigger - the destruction of OPEC or an epidemic. The revolver is already mounted to the head and the spring is cocked!
The First Great Depression was stopped by World War II. Then the massacre unleashed due to capital, which has exhausted the ability to earn and brought half of humanity to hunger. Revenues were redistributed and the current financial system built at the cost of tens of millions of lives.

All according to Marx. The global crisis is followed by a global conflict. And we are at the very beginning of this path. And we make the same mistakes! Countless economic zombies and unrealistic transneft and gas projects consume resources that can bring considerable benefits when managed economically.

[mitroha]

Olya Tsako

only the rich make money on cheap money

Yeah, but expensive money, poor)))
The rich earn on any money because they exploit the labor of others

[Duck]

If you are quoting Wasserman, you must quote the quotation mark and indicate the author.

[alien]

3. What is the relationship between the number of mechanical ventilation (mechanical ventilation apparatus) and the number of patients? And why is Italy lacking mechanical ventilation?

According to doctors, coronavirus leads to serious illness in only 20% of the total number of cases. About 3% of patients need resuscitation.
https://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/emets-tyazhelym-zabolevaniyam-privodyat-20-1584719133.html

Those. the minimum required number of mechanical ventilation is equal to the number of people in intensive care (plus some more for people with other diseases - doctors know)

The situation with mechanical ventilation by country is as follows:

https://meduza.io/feature/2020/03/20/v-italii-iz-za-koronavirusa-katastroficheski-ne-hvataet-apparatov-ivl-v-rossii-ih-gorazdo-bolshe-no-eto-ne-znachit-chto-my-luchshe-gotovy-k-epidemii

The question is, in Italy officially the number of cases for today is 59 138 people. According to statistics, 20% in severe form is 12 people, 000% in intensive care is 3 people. Those. the required number of mechanical ventilation = 1 800 pcs. But in Italy there are already 1 mechanical ventilation, and they say that there are not enough artificial respiration devices.

What does this mean that, most likely, in Italy (as in Spain) only severely ill patients are tested for coronovirus. The real, total number of cases in Italy is more than 150 people, when 000 mechanical ventilation is required for people in intensive care.

[Sergst]

You do not take into account that mechanical ventilation is needed not only for patients with coronovirus. There are common diseases where it is needed. So, coronovirus increases the need for mechanical ventilation, and does not create it from scratch.

[Liam]

Quote: Sergst

You do not take into account that mechanical ventilation is needed not only for patients with coronovirus. There are common diseases where it is needed. So, coronovirus increases the need for mechanical ventilation, and does not create it from scratch.

These figures are about how many mechanical ventilation there are in different countries. There are dozens of types and destinations. For example, mechanical ventilation for newborns in incubators or small portable for use at home by asthmatics and so on, they are useless for the treatment of pneumonia. It only means equipped places in intensive care of hospitals with mechanical ventilation connected to all systems. A patient with pneumonia, in addition to air, needs many more medications, etc.
Announcements about 40.000 mechanical ventilation in the country-filkin letter. The real figure of importance is the place in intensive therapy and all

[Liam]

3 Aug 2017
SERGEY SOBYANIN DECIDED ON GRANTS FOR HOSPITAL RESOURCES

In Moscow hospitals there are 47 departments of anesthesiology and intensive care for adults and 33 departments for children and newborns. Total there are 2626 resuscitation beds in them
2626 places in total - for both children and adults. Of these, for adults how many .1500 can be.

[Motorist]

Do you think that 5000 mechanical ventilation stood (in the package) and waited for this virus?

PS Sergst, sorry, did not read your comment.

[Kisa]

globally redivision of the world, and all that is all abstract, and what exactly people of our generation will touch us on - that it turns out that half of the offices can work remotely from home. disperse state bureaucracy and go to online filling and it turns out that business can be optimized to a new level

[rocket757]

Scientists suppose, and every infection has a destructive power ... no need to wake up famously!

[alien]

4. What precautions should be taken, or why not panic is NOT EQUAL to treat the epidemic frivolously?
Ministry of Health Warning:
https://www.who.int/ru/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public
For all the detailed instructions:
"<...> the virus can be transmitted through contaminated objects: first, a sick person touched the handrail, rubbing his nose, and then a healthy person, who then touched his face."

“Perhaps you will get sick, and then you will not be allowed to leave the house. <…> There is no need to go to the doctor and on the way, as well as in the clinic itself, put everyone at risk. We need to call an ambulance. "
https://meduza.io/feature/2020/03/17/v-mire-pandemiya-i-teper-mne-uzhe-sovsem-strashno-chto-delat-chtoby-ne-zarazitsya-koronavirusom

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[tihonmarine]

[quote] A coronavirus pandemic can become the very straw that will break the back of a camel of economic globalization. [/ quoteAccording to the definition, “globalization” is a process of global economic, political, cultural and religious integration and unification. But here there is one imperceptible, at first glance, but extremely important nuance, there is one very simple principle - “money to money”. That is, smaller firms, sooner or later, are absorbed by larger ones, their capitalization and opportunities are constantly growing. First of all, this is power! That is, certain people (groups), concentrating huge amounts of money at home, begin to have the ability to control the authorities, then partially state, and then they already manage governments and international politics. In fact, private financial institutions are beginning to replace the state. And this is the current reality of the moment.

[x.andvlad]

That's right. And it all starts with the desire to earn money in order to increase your material level and status. People will not refuse this. And if there are no shocks, then globalization will return. With changes, but will return.

[Terenin]

Trump, as you please, can call the Chinese ...
It is unambiguous that China is winning the "war" for Europe.

[cniza]

And not only for Europe, but it looks like the whole world ...

[Kurare]

Quote: Terenin

Trump, as you please, can call the Chinese ...

And while not a single European politician from the leading echelons indicated his place. All European elites hate Trump. But no one dares to argue with the President of the United States, whoever he is.

Quote: Terenin

It is unambiguous that China is winning the "war" for Europe.

Everyone will say thanks to China, everyone will wave their pen to China. China cannot win this "war" because the political elite of Europe is completely and exclusively pro-American.

What (may) change is that European politicians under will stimulate the return of companies from China back to the continent.

[alien]

5. When will it end?

The head doctor of the City Clinical Hospital No. 71 Alexander Myasnikov:
“Recall the previous SARS SARS pneumonia of 2002. It was approximately the same, although some cases were also in 2004 (...) Under conditions of synchronous international quarantine, one can hope for a resolution of the situation by May. And God forbid! Otherwise, we will all have problems. Not of a medical nature ”
“Then people will start to creep away, loss of earnings, broken connections, psychoses and depression amid a dying economy”
https://vz.ru/news/2020/3/20/1029925.html

Angela Merkel at a press conference:
“If the virus has entered the country, people have no immunity and there is no therapy, then from 60 to 70% of the population will be infected.”
“Now the main thing is to slow down the spread of the virus in order to prevent overloading the healthcare system.”
"The main thing now is to gain time."

Those. time is needed to make medicine and a vaccine against the virus. The weather should also help in this - the virus from Wuhan is not heat-resistant and dies at a temperature of 26-27 degrees.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Alien

Angela Merkel at a press conference: "The main thing now is to gain time."

Now the main thing for her is not to shake herself. Merkel was also remotely transferred. It turned out that the doctor who had given her an injection just now had grabbed the virus. Ordnung uber alles.

[rotmistr60]

We are moving towards more to the poor, a more evil and small world.

Are you scared? That is what the habit of living not according to income means, when consumption sometimes exceeds production by several times, and speculators rule the world with empty pieces of paper. It will be interesting to see how they start to gnaw each other's throats for butter on their piece of bread.

[gridasov]

If we talk about the search for real ways to influence the process of stopping a pandemic, then I think this is obvious, it is just necessary to take an element of the so-called antibody from a recovered person and develop it in an appropriate environment. And this is a question of a very short time and does not require testing since it is not a synthesis of some third-party drugs. I do not think that virologists do otherwise and do not. But it is obvious and that the whole process of the pandemic is faced with the task of completely not saving people, and the process itself is not natural.

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: gridasov

it is simply necessary to take from the recovered person an element of the so-called antibody and develop it in an appropriate environment.

The fact of the matter is that they allegedly write immunity from this virus. A person who has recovered can be reinfected over and over again until the virus itself recedes seasonally.

[gridasov]

Of course, this is also an influence factor. However, the physics of the process is such that the virus itself obviously destroys the process of thermoregulation of the body and since there are far from chemical processes on the alveoli of the lungs, they, as the last resort, take the blow that the nasopharynx and trachea and tonsils should have taken. This means that the regulation of the electronic magnetic potential does not work, which is capable of creating an environment unacceptable to the virus. Therefore, I am talking about the importance of water, which should not only be acidic in the framework of Ph, but structurally cleaner, so as not to allow the reproduction of the living flora of the virus. But there is practically no such Water. It can only be obtained by special technology. Similar to how it is transformed in glaciers, in its lower layers. And such Water can be the basis for the destruction of any viruses in the future.

[DED_peer_DED]

It can only be obtained by special technology. Similar to how it is transformed in glaciers, in its lower layers.

Good idea. It will be necessary for Father to call a friend (good Father), may he bring the Holy Water.

[gridasov]

It makes sense. Water is very diverse in its abilities and properties. You need to communicate with her correctly.

[cniza]

Scientists: After the coronavirus pandemic, the world will not be the same

Every day the world becomes different, not like yesterday ... just like English scientists.

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

Scientists: After the coronavirus pandemic, the world will not be the same

Every day the world becomes different, not like yesterday ... just like English scientists.

While we modestly We change the list rating of superpowers ...

[cniza]

Let's see what the final list will be ...

[Olya Tsako]

Solovyov correctly told us what imperfect Putin did. After all, in the 90s the country was stupidly robbed, 40% of the population lived below the poverty line, we lost a million men a year without a war. Forgot?

"The goal of the state is not to build heaven on earth, but to prevent hell." Putin did not allow it.




I was always surprised how our country manages to live with such a pathologically low level of managerial culture. But here, all managers can be degenerates, the country still lives. Our country in this respect is simply unique. We can randomly appoint people - governors, ministers, mayors, prime ministers of the entire Government, and the country still lives. We have developed the most subtle and cunning mechanism for the survival of the country.

The level of degradation in the country is fantastic. There are no professionals. There are no institutions producing professionals. Nobody grows up to become a professional, there is no challenge to be a professional. Why be a professional if all the same, if you want to get a profitable job, you have to call someone or be on someone's team. What is the point of striving, learning, improving, it does not matter if you can be taken and appointed. Why? "Yes, the guy is good."

When you talk with ministers, when you see governors, when those come who consider themselves to be the salt of the earth, managers from God, you look at them and understand that the country has no future. Or is it short.

[Rzzz]

Quote: Olya Tsako

The goal of the state is not to build heaven on earth, but to prevent hell. ”Putin did not allow it.

Ol, the state in general, and Putin in particular during the period "after the USSR" did nothing at all to "prevent" it. It was not allowed only thanks to the efforts of people who tried to survive, despite all the jokes from the state, and the huge reserves of strength of the country, created in those very times, about which the authorities now speak discordantly.

[HAM]

As Europe hoped for the almighty Brussels .... it turned out in vain, it was the amateur officials who first hid their heads in the sand to indicate how to live ...
Is it necessary to contain such a bunch of loafers? Maybe Europe will understand something?
Only hardly ......

[China]

Nothing will change, Putin will stay!

[Mikhail3]

Nothing so complicated. Globalization was originally a dead idea, but globalists did not want to admit the obvious, being prosperous theorists who did not know real life. Created by engineers, our world is unnecessarily comfortable and safe, allowing people to live, doing stupid things that would have led them to death before. So here.
The end of globalization. The ideas of Western "unions", which they advertised there, have also ended. There can no longer be strong alliances between countries of Western ideology. Previously, the ideas of honor and fidelity were promoted by Christianity in all its varieties. Now the influence of religion is negligible, and the eternal Western meanness has fallen to the surface, commanding to abandon an ally as soon as you have difficulties. What kind of alliances and agreements are there? Hehe ...
Further. Countries that do not have complete production chains of a significant part of REALLY VALUABLE goods, or some unique services, are doomed. There were some difficulties with this before, but now there will be just a cover. Commodity economies will experience enormous difficulties in proportion to how reasonably they used to spend undeserved in excess of profits. Only the unique raw materials available in one country will really bring a lot of money.
The need for engineers and scientists will increase again. Of course, rulers and capitalists will try to do without them to the last, and wherever this can be done, they will try to pay nothing as before. The interesting thing is that only those countries that can at least partially transfer real power to real engineers (I emphasize) will be able to survive the troubled times. As the United States did during the Great Depression.
The thinking of current politicians is absolutely unsuitable for the tasks facing the current government. Now the higher a person climbed in the power pyramid, the less he is suitable for his work. It seems to be a paradox, but the reality at the moment is just that, since the selection screens in our civilization in the power sector are completely worthless.
Wang Wangoy, but there is practically no hope for our country ...

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Mikhail3

The thinking of current politicians is absolutely unsuitable for the tasks facing the current government. Now the higher a person climbed in the power pyramid, the less he is suitable for his work. It seems to be a paradox, but the reality at the moment is just that, since the selection screens in our civilization in the power sector are completely worthless.

I absolutely agree.
The system is such that it allows an individual to go up only under a few conditions:
1. A relative, close, "your boyfriend".
2. Unscrupulousness, sycophancy, "share participation" (this is the type - devotion).
3. Meanness, spiritual callousness, attitude to people as a material (both to those and to others but all one ...).
4. Low mental abilities (so that he knew the place and did not swell).
These personal "data" are used to select the "environment", power, etc. starting from the lowest levels and higher.
Similar ones move up the existing "ladder".
Normal and honest are filtered by the "system" already at the LOWEST level! The methods are different, I will not list, we have all heard about them ...
By the way, this property of the "system" to filter people ALREADY at the very initial level, at the first stages of growth, led to the fact that, as some people write, "Putin does not see any alternatives ..." (C).
This is correct, since by the efforts of the "system" all normal people are destroyed already at the very first stages and at the country level it is easy for them to take on - there is nowhere ...

[Vasyan1971]

Washington has failed the leadership test, and the world will not benefit from it.

So much the worse for Washington.

[g1washntwn]

He is also echoed by the deputy director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies:
- Washington failed the leadership test, and the world will not benefit from it.

For countries that provided for themselves or strove for this, little will change. Worse with those who, in this neocolonial global system, were on the role of donors and parasites. Because globalism was conceived not as an equal economic model, but as a regulated consumer market, where some dance and chew, while others plow and wave oars on this gallery. On the other hand, these coveted sanctions will force many to reconsider their adaptive strategy and develop backward industries, at least to a minimum, because

The kidneys help the body while they are with you, and not sold.

[Campanella]

It is quite obvious that there will be a rollback from "chaotic" globalism towards the organized. True, there are unknowns here, for example, the plans of the elites of leading countries. Much will depend on how they view the future of the world and their role in it. But something tells the desire of people for profit and power will lead, as always, to the division into friends and foes. The world can unite only in the face of a common threat, and then for the time being.

[DED_peer_DED]

Quote: Campanella

It is quite obvious that there will be a rollback from "chaotic" globalism towards the organized.

A completely wrong judgment.
Serf slaves will unite with their bars?
Despite the fact that the Christian bonds in the world have been destroyed, empires have been destroyed, the world is devoted to the thirst for profit, man is a wolf to man, and there are no new "braces" on the horizon.
What are the foundations of "The world can unite ..."? And why should the owners and world capital need it?

[Campanella]

Well, it’s a sin for leaders not to take advantage of the situation and take control of suckers. This will make it possible for some time to extradite the uninitiated.
After all, it is absolutely clear that leaders do not want to compete on equal terms and will not, and they will use their privileged position to the full.

[RosUkrBel]

It is strange that they never consult with Russian scientists ... They are probably afraid that they will look incompetent.

[Pavel57]

Leadership further must be proved by victory in a real war.

[A. Privalov]

Alexander Sergeyevich Pushkin, being in quarantine in Boldino about cholera, addresses
to us today.

*
Excuse me, the inhabitants of the country,
In hours of mental torment
Congratulate you from confinement
Happy Great Spring Festival!

Everything will settle down, everything will pass
Sorrows and anxieties will go away
Smooth roads again
And the garden, as before, will bloom.

To help the mind,
Sweep the disease by the power of knowledge
And the days of hard trials
We’ll survive one family.

We will become cleaner and wiser
Not surrendering to the darkness and fear,
Perk up each other
We will become closer and kinder.

And let the holiday table
We will enjoy life again
May the Almighty send on this day
A piece of happiness in every home!

(A.S. Pushkin 1827)

[DED_peer_DED]

"It's a pity - to live in this wonderful time. I won't have to - neither me, nor you"
N.Nekrasov

[A. Privalov]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

"It's a pity - to live in this wonderful time. I won't have to - neither me, nor you"

What a fatalist you are, however, the right word!

[Victor March 47]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Insults

Well, Russia will remain the same ...

Outwardly - yes, internally - no. The labor market, it is already clear that it will change, more people will work "remotely", which will affect other areas, the same market for "office space", it will clearly shrink, but the IT market is waiting for a rise

You won’t be full of pies. Who will plow at the machine? In the potato field? Russia will become different in a different sense. More isolation, and dispersal of the entire shobla, advocating the connection of the unconnected. Both in the government (an example of an iPhone, as a harbinger of this process, in the hands), and in the economy. Sobering up with the desire to enter somewhere in some kind of international structure. Awareness of one's own sufficiency and the need for self-reliance.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: RosUkrBel

It is strange that they never consult with Russian scientists ... They are probably afraid that they will look incompetent.

This is not strange. It would be strange if they started to consult. All these statements are made not for the search for truth, but for influencing the soft brains of others. Or what should be brains.

[Last centurion]

not the first pandemic, not the last (optimist). Part will die out, part will adapt as Comrade bequeathed. Darwin. Then the pneumonia coronavirus will exchange the genome with the flu, or something else, and so on and so forth ... But in general, it seems to me that somewhere such a higher mind is sitting and experimenting with life, but not with a soldering iron and test tubes and viruses, microbes and sometimes cleans the experiment with other asteroids ... Maybe for what purpose .. maybe it’s just passing the laboratory on the construction of the Universes ... :)

[Fishery]

but nature will have a little rest)) there’s clear water in Venice), although I’ve seen crabs there before, but now crystal clear

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Tonya

now crystal clear

However, dolphins, swans, every fish trifle ... Kr-ra-rasota ... The old woman Venice has a rest both from Turia and from her own population.

[Vadim237]

Half of the manufacturers from China will go to a country where no viruses appear, the cheapest labor, cheap energy and well-developed transport infrastructure. Russia itself is in this regard for another three years to introduce a moratorium on tax payments for all those who establish production with full localization their products in our territory and a 50% discount on electricity. We will be many willing especially if the crisis continues.

[Fishery]

they won’t go)))) it’s better to go to India, Mexico, Brazil, the Russian Federation with big political risks and incomprehensible rules of the game.

[faterdom]

Quote: den3080

It is necessary to physically treat, with hands.
And to give birth?

By remote, of course. An Uzbek will arrive on a scooter in a stork costume, and with a large box on his back - get it! Money can be transferred to a smartphone - udalenka, so udalenka!
And who doesn’t need a child for a long time, say, only guests need to demonstrate with verses on a stool - in car sharing, on an hourly basis.

[Aag]

I did not appreciate the people of your humor, a bad symptom.

[samarin1969]

It's funny that in this "forum of futurologists" there are no thousands of "professional" "presidents of global and even more forecasting and analysis." These legions of loafers are constantly on the ears of the media. But they cannot predict anything intelligible.

Nature, as it can, and defends itself from the "excess of humanity." Attempts to disrupt the natural cycle of history lead only to more grandiose victims. "Age of Enlightenment" presented the massacre of the Napoleonic Wars. The century of liberal democracy has endowed with two world wars. We will pay for globalization by the fact that the matter of obtaining resources will become a war of "all against all." The guys will have to change the keyboard to Kalashnikov.

[Liam]

Quote: samarin1969

Nature as it can and defends itself from the "excess of humanity

If nature wanted to "get rid" of the excess, she would have come up with a virus that kills young people and women. Not a coronavirus that kills old people and (mostly) men

[Imperial Technocrat]

In the new world order, Russia and China will be the main ones

[Cotton Colorado]

An interesting arithmetic is obtained:
579244 people died in Italy in 2019
131086 deaths in 2020 (current data.
579244 ÷ 12 = 48270.3
131086 ÷ 3 = 43695.3
43695.3 ÷ 30 = 1456.51 people per day (average)

[shinobi]

I beg you, Porthos! Epidemics and pandemics happen regularly, every 5-7 years some kind of infection occurs. And nothing, absolutely nothing in the world changes. No, of course there are changes, but they are certainly not connected with diseases. Epidemics and the current pandemic is more likely the result of these changes and certainly not the reason. Globalization also played in the box through the fault of the USA itself for a long time. They broke into it. They just didn’t understand yet. And there was no need to pull the blanket over yourself.

[Razvedka_Boem]

Globalization kirdyk ..
A good reason..

[Shahno]

Quote: Razvedka_Boem

Globalization kirdyk ..
A good reason..

My global variables even live ..
Kirdyk, by the way, is also global.
Will we fight?

[Archivist Vasya]

I agree that China will be in the top, but we, as usual, in ...