How Russia can win the oil war: experts speculate


The fall in oil prices led to a sharp depreciation of the ruble. However, it is possible that Russia will not only survive in the oil war, but will also win it.


In favor of the fact that it is Russia that will emerge victorious from the confrontation in the oil market, according to the American publication Bloomberg, it says that the country has huge resources. And indeed it is. Not only oil is adding to the well-being of the Russian state; moreover, during the years of sanctions, the Russian economy has significantly increased its self-sufficiency.

Unlike Russia, Saudi Arabia, with all its wealth, has a much more one-sided economy. Thus, Saudi Arabia's exports comprise 64,7% of oil and 8,3% of oil products. The kingdom is very dependent on imports, even in the food sector, being unable to independently ensure its own food security.

In addition, the kingdom also faces many social and political problems. Among them, for example, is colossal unemployment, which among young people is 32%. One out of every three young Saudis is unemployed, despite the fact that the country is full of migrant workers from Southeast and South Asia, Africa, and neighboring Arab countries.

Forbes columnist Ellen R. Wald believes that the experience of President Vladimir Putin and the head of the Ministry of Energy Alexander Novak in making difficult decisions in the oil market will play a role in Russia's victory, but Saudi leaders do not have such experience.

By the way, the Russian budget was initially “sharpened” at lower prices per barrel of oil than the Saudi budget. The difference in the conditional cost of oil is almost 2 times ($ 42 for Russia and $ 80-82 for KSA) and in the current situation, Riyadh will face the inability to increase its budget revenues. Against the background of existing social problems, the conflict with Iran, the war in Yemen, this is fraught with very serious consequences.

Not only should oil be extracted, but it must also be delivered. This is another significant factor. But in the context of the coronavirus pandemic, many seaports are closed, or significantly reduce cargo turnover, which is also not beneficial for Saudi Arabia. Demand for oil remains low compared with the period before the pandemic, so selling the small amount of oil at low prices will be unprofitable for the Saudis themselves first of all.

Russia can derive some benefits for itself from the oil war. Firstly, it is the elimination of producers from the oil market with high cost of oil production. As we know, these are the American producers of shale oil, in which the collapse in prices hit in the first place. Already, the US is thinking about introducing restrictive measures for oil supplies from Russia and Saudi Arabia.

Secondly, the situation in the oil market will lead to a decrease in the competitiveness of American LNG compared to Russian gas. Under these conditions, the prospects for gas supplies through Nord Stream-2 are more than optimistic. Moreover, the American leadership, subsidizing the production of shale oil, left less money for LNG, and this led to a mismatch between the cost of the latter and the prices at which they would be ready to buy in Europe.

Thirdly, it is possible that sooner or later Saudi Arabia and Russia will again sit at the negotiating table and conclude a new oil deal. And this will happen on the initiative of Saudi Arabia, which risks much more than our country.

At the same time, experts argue that the longer oil prices are maintained (within a reasonable time frame), the better it will be for Russia: the same competing US shale sector will be, if not completely destroyed, then frayed so that it takes at least 5 to recover -6 years.

Therefore, it is premature to predict the rise in the price of a barrel of oil, but, at least in the foreseeable future, the price can stabilize, and this is already a lot in the current situation.
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  1. DMB 75 23 March 2020 09: 56 New
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    Russia can derive some benefit for itself from the oil war.

    If anyone will benefit for themselves, it’s Sechin, and not the people of Russia.
    1. seti 23 March 2020 10: 00 New
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      That is, in your opinion, it was all meant to be enriched by the damned Sechin and not in the interests of the Russian Federation? Maybe it's time to turn on the brains and understand that the Russian Federation is trying to remove from all markets, including the oil one, and what the leadership of the Russian Federation responded to, including the damned Sechin, this is our defensive reaction.
      1. Malyuta 23 March 2020 10: 10 New
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        Quote: seti
        Maybe it's time to turn on the brain and understand

        It seems that many of them are better off completely, pathos a lot, but zero sense.
      2. Svarog 23 March 2020 10: 15 New
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        Quote: seti
        Maybe it’s time to turn on the brains and understand what the Russian Federation is trying to remove from all markets, including the oil one, and what the Russian leadership answered, including the damned Sechin, this is our defensive reaction.

        Whom do you take away .. the share of oil and gas revenues in the USA is 7%, in Russia 50%, while the fat dries, the thin dies .. Yes, and how will the price go up within half a year, the United States will again enter the market with its shale .. when oil income is not more than 15% ..
        1. Octopus 23 March 2020 13: 31 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          US oil and gas revenues 7%

          This figure includes the entire industry, including conventional production, oil refining and retail (and just retail, gas stations with shops, gives the main turnover). Actually, shale production at the peak is 6-8mbd, that is, back in the old days - $ 400M / day. Less than a percent of GDP.
        2. maidan.izrailovich 23 March 2020 16: 56 New
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          Whom you take away .. the share of oil and gas revenues in the United States 7% ....

          In the article, Saudi Arabia is identified as our main competitor.
          And we can’t compete with the United States, not because there is some kind of interest there, but because there is a printing press.
      3. astepanov 23 March 2020 12: 06 New
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        Quote: seti
        Maybe it’s time to turn on the brains and understand what the Russian Federation is trying to remove from all markets, including the oil one, and what the leadership of the Russian Federation answered, including the damned Sechin, is our defensive reaction.

        Explain this to a retired grandmother, who drags buckwheat due to the inevitable price increase. Or a peasant who suffers losses due to rising fuel prices. Or a young family that got into a mortgage, and with horror is waiting for a possible dismissal, because the market is falling (due to rising prices!) And enterprises will cut staff.
        1. seti 23 March 2020 12: 33 New
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          Then what kind of solution do you offer .. Reduce your production which will be replaced by US shale oil or Saudi sheikhs. Or try to kick them out. We have more safety margins and we can withstand something that they can never because their gut is thin. So they make history .. Or do you think that in our leadership some are critical and you are smarter than all. What did you finish?
          Wood chips are flying, you can’t please everyone. Think about the millions who directly depend on the oil and gas sector of the economy and all related industries in our country.
          1. Octopus 23 March 2020 13: 38 New
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            Quote: seti
            more strength

            You?
            Quote: seti
            endure what they can never

            The Russian people have one norm -125 grams of bread per day, and one right is the right to defeat (C) A.B.Usmanov, N8 wealthy residents of Britain for 2019.
          2. New Year day 23 March 2020 14: 06 New
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            Quote: seti
            Reduce its production that will replace US shale oil or Saudi sheikhs.

            their existence is an objective reality. They were, are and will be. We must agree, not slam the door.
            1. seti 23 March 2020 14: 20 New
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              On their terms or ours? They believe that we owe them and not they owe us. To make them go us they must be bent on concessions. RF is already successfully does. In 2-3 months it will be visible to anyone. At least look at it here:

              I do not quite agree with him, but his words are generally true.
              1. New Year day 23 March 2020 14: 41 New
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                Quote: seti
                On their terms or ours? They believe that we owe them and not they owe us

                Back to the baseline: Salman was in favor of maintaining oil prices by cutting production. Novakz maintains the price of oil by increasing its production. How can the price be stable when there is an oversupply of goods? Salman accepted the challenge of Novak and increased production and lowered the price. Who is to blame for the low price? - After all, they themselves wanted this, but miscalculated, thought Salman snot will wind on his fist. But he turned out to be with character.
                Quote: seti
                To force them to make concessions to us, they need to be bent. Russia is already doing this successfully.

                Russia very well leaned on SA, Iraq and Kuwait. indisputably. And we will see the result later. Salman sets his budget at a price of $ 12 per barrel.
                1. seti 23 March 2020 14: 45 New
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                  I gave you a link to a person - in his videos he laid out everything on the fingers. Take the trouble to see and then it will come to you. It is intelligently explained.
                  So I’ll briefly explain - if we went for a reduction and wouldn’t have won anything in the long term and everyone would have lost. And so we hit what we did not expect. Look and understand.
                  1. Roman12345678 24 March 2020 13: 34 New
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                    if we were to cut back and continue to win nothing in the long run, we would all lose.


                    We will gobble up the egg and return to what it was ..
                    But with higher prices ..
                    All this is happening already !!
                    There can be no a priori win !! Only if naphtha suddenly passes for a hundred, and America at the same time refuses oil shale ..
                2. Ural resident 23 March 2020 16: 50 New
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                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Quote: seti
                  On their terms or ours? They believe that we owe them and not they owe us

                  Back to the baseline: Salman was in favor of maintaining oil prices by cutting production. Novakz maintains the price of oil by increasing its production. How can the price be stable when there is an oversupply of goods? Salman accepted the challenge of Novak and increased production and lowered the price. Who is to blame for the low price? - After all, they themselves wanted this, but miscalculated, thought Salman snot will wind on his fist. But he turned out to be with character.
                  Quote: seti
                  To force them to make concessions to us, they need to be bent. Russia is already doing this successfully.

                  Russia very well leaned on SA, Iraq and Kuwait. indisputably. And we will see the result later. Salman sets his budget at a price of $ 12 per barrel.

                  It wasn’t quite there. Salman really called for a reduction in production, but to please the Americans. If the market shares had remained unchanged, then everything would have been the norm. But all this time, the Americans won a large share of the market with their oil. As a result, ours were inferior and inferior pieces of the market. In the end, we decided to put an end to this. Salman plays the American slate, gets his buns for it. Considering that the Americans are very hysterical now about our decision, it means everything is being done right.
                  1. Overlock 23 March 2020 17: 11 New
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                    Salman plays the American slate, gets his buns for it.

                    US shale oil is insured at $ 57 per barrel per year. In other words, no matter what the price of it goes, the owner will receive his 57 bucks of oil shale oil. In addition, Trump purchases all of this oil in strategic stock.
                    Quote: A resident of the Urals
                    ... Americans are very hysterical now ..

                    how? Indeed, analysts believe that shale production can recover quickly, and the US financial system allows companies to reduce losses and insure risks. The hope that they will bend and that the big slate bubble will burst is nonsense. The cost of oil shale companies varies from $ 15 to $ 45 per barrel.
                    and further in the text ..
                    https://www.kp.ru/daily/27103.4/4176525/
          3. astepanov 23 March 2020 14: 29 New
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            Quote: seti
            Or do you think that in our leadership some are critical and you are smarter than everyone. What did you finish?

            I graduated from university. And you? Judging by the fact that you write with errors and the syntax is clearly lame, you did not finish the academies.
            Quote: seti
            We have more safety margins and we can withstand something that they can never because their gut is thin.

            It is worth recalling that only in 2015, the United States began exporting oil. Despite the lack of oil supplies to the foreign market, the United States was the most economically powerful country in the world. They still have a small share of oil sales in the structure of national income (unlike us), so your hopes of getting the staff down by falling oil prices are no more justified than trying to ruin Thailand by growing pineapple on the windowsill.
            Quote: seti
            Forest chopped wood fly

            Somewhere we already heard it.
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        2. Rusland 23 March 2020 17: 28 New
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          Quote: astepanov
          I graduated from university. And you?

          So what? Hero?
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          Judging by the fact that you write with errors and the syntax is clearly lame, you did not finish the academies.

          Well a masterpiece belay He taught pop Yermoshka to play the harmonica. laughing
        3. Oyo Sarkazmi 23 March 2020 20: 01 New
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          Quote: astepanov
          It is worth recalling that only in 2015, the United States began exporting oil. Despite the lack of oil supplies to the foreign market, the United States was the most economically powerful country in the world. They still have a small share of oil sales in the structure of national income (unlike us), so your hopes of getting the staff down by falling oil prices are no more justified than trying to ruin Thailand by growing pineapple on the windowsill.

          But the trouble is - the hype with toilet paper showed that the United States is a one-sided economy. Generates mainly loans. Toilet paper is not produced in the USA. One after another, car factories stop - there are no auto parts in the world without Chinese components. The Boeing has gone at a peak - the aircraft industry depends on aluminum imports. Light industry, almost all household goods - in America this is not. And if the dollar collapses, nothing will remain in the United States. Even bananas will not buy anything.
      4. Overlock 23 March 2020 17: 04 New
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        Then what kind of outlet do you offer ..

        The concept of long-term socio-economic development of the Russian Federation for the period until 2020.
        .exhaustion of the potential of the export-raw model of economic developmentbased on the accelerated increase in fuel and raw materials exports, the release of goods for domestic consumption due to additional loading of production capacities in the conditions of the low exchange rate of the ruble ...
        Therefore, the transition from the export of raw materials to an innovative model of economic growth is also associated with the formation of a new mechanism of social development based on a balance of entrepreneurial freedom, social justice and national competitiveness.
        12 years have passed, and things are still there
      5. Marine engineer 24 March 2020 10: 28 New
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        “We have a margin of safety more and we will withstand what they can never because their gut is thin .....”

        Everything will be exactly the same as with gas transit through Ukraine, how many pathos were made for the “internal” man in the street, but the bell rang and Putin’s creature signed everything that was dictated to her.
        So with OPEC, they will rattle on TV as we all “bent”, and then they go to bow to the Saudis and sign everything that they dictate. Only conditions will be tougher.
      6. Roman12345678 24 March 2020 13: 27 New
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        So do the story ..

        Here Putin is sitting there exclusively for history .. 20 years down the drain .. And now all of a sudden - what kind of solution do you offer ..
        A good doctor is caught .. choose, says - chop off your arm or leg ..

        Or do you think that in our manual some are critical and you are smarter than everyone.

        Do you think otherwise ??
        Or was it destined for fate that all Putin’s friends turned out to be geniuses all around Putin ??
        Maybe in the State Duma all sorts of athletes / artists are not cretins through one ??
        The question is rhetorical ..
  2. Lannan Shi 23 March 2020 12: 28 New
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    Quote: seti
    Maybe it’s time to turn on the brains and understand what the Russian Federation is trying to remove from all markets, including the oil

    Kind. Russia has already been removed from the oil markets. The very sanctions that we love to speculate about, in fact, do not affect anything in the country, except for the oil industry and the military-industrial complex. But they just blocked the oxygen. At the same time, sooooo cunning. No embargoes and other things, like with Iran, for example. Just a ban on equipment supplies and lending. And that's all. The oilwoman begins to die. Read Novak. The minister, after all, is not all-moving. Black in Russian explains to fools like you. All. We pass the peak. Further recession. Dofig oil, but the kind that we can’t pump. Or such that, against its background, shale is practically free. And what we can do and at cost is available ... The rest is pumped. And start kipish, in order to accelerate for a year or two? People play long. For decades, plans are being built. What for do they need it, do they suddenly arrange races, if from 2023-24 we ourselves begin to hand over the markets?
    1. Salty 23 March 2020 13: 05 New
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      Novak read

      Novak said that Russia could quickly increase oil production by 200-300 thousand bpd
      https://www.interfax.ru/business/698380

      Oil workers after meeting at Novak declared uncritical low prices

      Read more at RBC:
      https://www.rbc.ru/business/12/03/2020/5e6a5c559a79472e60d5b361

      It?
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        2. Salty 23 March 2020 16: 14 New
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          Quote: Lannan Shi
          "We will reach the peak in 2021 - this is 570 million tons, after which a gradual decline can begin and by 2035 we can reduce production to 310 million tons," Novak said

          May start does not mean that it will necessarily begin. P - Russian language.
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          attention to your posts is slightly less than dog barking

          Which syllable, I’m just ecstatic ... rudeness in the dispute is a sign of a weak position, Madame.
  3. fk7777777 23 March 2020 13: 18 New
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    Well, then turn on your brain, where is all the money ?, to spend on disassembling thieves, and the genocide of the people is enough to cover up with all patriotic crap.
  4. Octopus 23 March 2020 13: 25 New
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    remove from all markets, including the oil one, and what the leadership of the Russian Federation answered

    Was it cleaned by itself?
    1. Liam 23 March 2020 16: 17 New
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      Was it cleaned by itself?

      So far, they are squeezing out price wars. If the shale industry gets really sick in the election year, they will be squeezed out by open sanctions. Once the war is declared in order to ruin the American shale, the latter do not hesitate to answer the same. In a war as in a war.
      The production of American shale oil is approximately equal to Rosneft's export. They will divide the Russian market share in half with the Arabs and everyone is happy (except for Rosneft ... but each loser of the aggressor has his own Nuremberg)
      The exchange is adequate and the market is satisfied. And there the second gas front will arrive in time. Ten Trump attacks
      1. Octopus 23 March 2020 21: 50 New
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        Divide the Russian market share in half with the Arabs and everyone is happy

        Everything is more complicated there. Slate will not replace the urals for technological reasons without modernizing the plants (and there are no particular people willing to do the modernization in the falling market). But the Arabs have relatively similar varieties. Now they managed to drive the Urals to Brent minus 5, which is already less than twenty.
        Quote: Liam
        Ten Trump Beats

        I’m somehow not sure that Trump is taking the bloody regime so close to her heart. Yes, and the time is not right now, to demonstrate resilience, the voter would like more attention to himself, rather than geopolitical victories. And on average, cheaper gasoline is closer to the voter than the shale industry. Wait and see, of course.
        1. Liam 23 March 2020 22: 03 New
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          Naturally, there are a lot of subtleties and nuances. But how the Arabs abruptly jerked, it’s indicative that something is exactly cooked in a pot. Fedun’s different interviews too.

          And the Saudis directly accuse Mr. Sechin of constantly deceiving them with quotas. Which they allegedly cut from 2016 and this kind of curiously coincided with new production records in Russia
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            supposedly cut from 2016 and this somehow curiously coincided with new production records in Russia

            Yes, much has been said about this. Russia perceived the agreements with OPEC as oral, so to speak, interventions, that is, it believed that in the literal sense it had found a place where you can get a lot of money for lying. Lies about reducing production. Naturally, they decided that they were in a fairy tale.

            Everything went well (it is still not profitable for the Saudis to beat the plates) until someone decided there to become the mistress of the sea, and this Salman should be on the premises. Idle people are talking, I don’t know if it is true that Salman personally called Vova before everything went round, but Vova had more important matters, did not consider it necessary to spend time on this goldfinch.
  5. New Year day 23 March 2020 14: 00 New
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    Quote: seti
    understand what the Russian Federation is trying to remove from all markets, including the oil one, and what the leadership of the Russian Federation answered

    What is it like? If Novak left the negotiations and refused to reduce oil production in order to stabilize its price (the offer of Saudi Arabia) and after that the price collapsed, then this ...
    Quote: seti
    .. remove from all markets ..

    not clear somehow. After all, they themselves refused to stabilize the price
  6. antique 23 March 2020 15: 37 New
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    That is, in your opinion, it was all meant to be enriched by the damned Sechin and not in the interests of the Russian Federation? Maybe it’s time to turn on the brains and understand what the Russian Federation is trying to remove from all markets, including the oil one, and what the leadership of the Russian Federation answered, including the damned Sechin, is our defensive reaction.

    It was all about our stupidity. Imagined themselves as strategists, being able to play only checkers. The non-linear problem was answered with a linear answer. In response, they received enormous problems. Nobody will allow any gain to Russia. Now the States will agree with the Saudis to raise the price tag and introduce an oil embargo for us. The first bells are already there. And then kapets. The last mnogohodovochka courtyard Kremlin style covered with a copper basin. Together with us.
  7. ccsr 23 March 2020 18: 51 New
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    Quote: seti
    Maybe it’s time to turn on the brains and understand what the Russian Federation is trying to remove from all markets, including the oil one, and what the leadership of the Russian Federation answered, including the damned Sechin, is our defensive reaction.

    You correctly assessed the goals of this war, and I completely agree with you on this. In order to correctly understand that we were preparing for this long before the current events, it is enough to objectively look at a few years of preparation for this event, when we got rid of American securities, bought more euros and yuan, developed gold mining and its purchase. But this is only part of the preparatory measures, and yet we also developed agricultural production, became leaders in nuclear energy, developed the military-industrial complex, and re-created our own civilian fleet, i.e. in a few years they changed the entire economic structure of our country. We can definitely say that the country has accumulated strategic reserves for a long war, and this convinces me that we will win it. At least, I don’t see any gross errors in Putin’s team, which advised him, using the global panic virus with coronovirus, to strike at the most vulnerable part of the West - panic among its population in case of crisis situations. Now we have clearly seen this in Italy, on the approach of Germany and the USA, so the performance has just begun, and no one can accurately predict its final, and this already speaks of the confusion of all world analysts. It remains to believe Wang ...
  8. Roman12345678 24 March 2020 13: 19 New
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    If you turn on the brain, it will become clear that there can be no question of any victory here ..
    There are already losses .. and there will be .. And all these "crowding out of shale oil" is a filkin letter .. They will NOT lead to the fact that oil eventually rises to hundreds, and we will recoup all the losses that we are incurring now .. So that victory will not be here ..
    Moreover, we will not be able to incur losses always .. sooner or later the price will still return to 50 .. and the slate will heal again .. The only question is how much we will stand with a shot foot ..
  • Snail N9 23 March 2020 10: 04 New
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    “Can win”, and maybe .... and “not win” (for me the latter is more likely). I am more, the second case is of interest. And what are the plans for the "multi-way" planned for this case (if the "does not win")? Or is the Kremlin left with only the “second oil" - the people?
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      Quote: Snail N9
      Or is the Kremlin left with only the “second oil" - the people?


      Judging by the heart-rending reaction of world experts at the sofa level, we will lose wherever we can, are doomed and will die out like mammoths. The Russian leadership is entirely traitors who sleep and see how to dig into the labor throat of the people and suck our money to the last drop. But personally, Putin and K are the enemy of the people and personally of every couch general. And of course, everyone who is now at the keyboard knows what needs to be done for the country how to do it and if he personally were at the helm .. Well, in general, they would have healed.
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        Quote: seti
        Judging by the heart-rending reaction of world experts at the sofa level, we will lose wherever we can, are doomed and will die out like mammoths

        This is exactly what happens. Russia dies 300-400 thousand people a year. Incomes are constantly declining ..
        1. seti 23 March 2020 10: 28 New
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          I read this from you in every message and sometimes regret that now it’s not 37 years old. You need to spit in each plate / cup. If you read like this around - everything was gone and enemies around. Not a single post can do without this - go to the EU, everything is great there and everyone is happy with everything. I live in the Krasnodar Territory and do not see everything to be totally bad - on the contrary, for me, the country is developing, though not as fast as we would like. The roads are excellent - I go on a maxiscuter and I can appreciate it. There are minuses in the country but there are pluses. There are more of the latter every year .. Most of the people around me live well and drive good cars is a fact. The city where I live is developing rapidly, around the construction site. Personally, I’m a hard worker and not an oligarch - I don’t steal money if that - I live on my own money and, nevertheless, I earned for 10 years new 2-room apartment a good 5 year old car and a maxiscooter from scratch. Himself on a simple job. Having on hand the 7th child. Without help.
          And you just cry like all wretched / bad.
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            Quote: seti
            Personally, I'm a hard worker and not an oligarch

            I don’t steal money, if anything - I live on my own money and, nevertheless, in 10 years I have earned a good 2 year old car and a maxiscooter from scratch for a new 5-room apartment

            Himself on a simple job. Having on hand the 7th child.

            You are a great fellow .. fit in .. It can be seen the income of a simple hard worker not less than 120 thousand rubles .. I don’t know a single simple hard worker with such an income ..
            But that's not the point. Seriously, happy for you. And as the last 6 years, your incomes are growing, life is becoming easier?
            You need to spit in each plate / cup. If you read like this around - everything was gone and enemies around.

            Unfortunately, statistics data say this, but you can’t argue against them .. So you couldn’t, answered emotionally and gave your own example, where a simple hard worker manages to raise seven children and buy real estate with cars, etc. You are most likely an official small spill, or your wife makes good money. But a simple hard worker does not receive more than 60 tons, and with this money it’s not possible to live like you ..
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              And you try to work with your head and hands, and then the earnings will grow from 27 thousand to 70. I work at the factory and not only the boss is the foreman. Some of my colleagues get more and more turners, milling machines. CNC Turner of a good level - 90 thousand. Look for another job, try yourself in another area - do not cling to one profession. I worked for 10 years as a mechanic for cranes - now I work in the energy service. My whole team drives non-old cars - all family, two bought New mortgage apartments for 9.5% and one took two years ago an octavia from scratch on credit. These are all real people. My boss rides a Tuareg for 12 years. It's not so bad.
              But it is clear that in order to earn likes and become a general of divan troops, you need to write not only what surrounds you, but that there are only traitors in the country's leadership who sold to anyone that you can’t earn in the country; Well, that the country owes me and I do not owe anything to anyone .. What is there to explain.
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                Well done, Matvey! My respect for your position in life. The future of the country belongs to people like you.
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                  Well done, Matvey! My respect for your position in life. The future of the country belongs to people like you.

                  Thank you.
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                  Which sharpen with one hand on a matryoshka machine, fight with the other on the Internet?

                  Are there people in Russia who have not yet rested under popular authority? Of course have. I myself, I confess, do not starve. Does this remove questions from popular authority? No, it doesn’t.
                  1. Xenofont 23 March 2020 14: 11 New
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                    I, as a novice pensioner, have questions to the SEA authorities, but to focus solely on the negative — to drive myself into a dead end, for not noticing the good — is unfortunate.
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                      Quote: Xenofont
                      questions to the power of the SEA, but focus solely on the negative

                      )))
                      No.
                      After questions to the authorities, the following question naturally arises: what is to be done with it. And here, yes, it becomes somehow bad.
                    2. Xenofont 23 March 2020 21: 56 New
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                      We will always find who is to blame, but what to do, almost never.
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                      Quote: Xenofont
                      We will always find who is to blame, but what to do

                      These are interconnected issues.
                      1. You make politics (real politics, open harassment of power) an occupation that leads to a prison or to a grave.
                      2. Only people for whom such a risk is acceptable to you are involved in politics (extremists, but not already drawn, but real), or people whom it does not concern (boyars). Both the one and the other option exclude discussion, the development of informed decisions, political responsibility for their actions, etc. etc. That is, life becomes, let’s say, more fun.
          2. Pessimist22 23 March 2020 12: 26 New
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            But here, besides the whining of pensioners, how little they are paid and how bad everything is, but how good it was under Stalin, there is nothing more in the comments, people with a different point of view immediately in the minuses and ban.
            1. seti 23 March 2020 12: 30 New
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              And there is. Another point of view is not welcome. I settled a few years ago young (18 years old) to our site. I worked more accurately, I passed the practice, they assigned the 4th category .. I got my first 30 thousand. Well, well .. for that kind of money my dad gives me more work .. I don’t know who his dad is, but how much should I receive the 4th rank? 100 thousand ..? According to many, yes.
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            I support, there is a head on my shoulders, my arms are intact. If you need money, you can study another specialty that is in demand on the labor market at the moment. In the brigade, my locksmith receives from 85-150tr, the main requirements are not to thump and not to break those. regulations, and it’s hard not to drink to find or to be disciplined, youth have to take and educate without experience, somehow.
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        I live in the Krasnodar Territory and don’t see everything to be totally bad - on the contrary, the country is developing for me .... The roads are excellent ..... Most of the people around me live well and drive good cars ... The city where I live is developing swiftly, around the construction site .... Personally, I am a hard worker and not an oligarch ... in 10 years I have earned a good 2 year old car and a maxiskooter from scratch for a new 5-bedroom apartment ...... Himself on a simple job .... .. Having on hand the 7th child. Without help ...

        Oh, how it looks like this:

        Well, the conclusion:
        1. seti 23 March 2020 11: 10 New
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          I already saw it. From you.
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            Quote: seti
            I already saw it. From you.

            And we already heard from you - the submarine foreman, the father of seven children. Your chatter is no longer readable.
            1. seti 23 March 2020 12: 12 New
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              I never served in a submarine so don’t make it up. Give my comment where I wrote this - answer for your words. As for seven children. So that your chatter, too, do not read.
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        Do you understand that you are talking with one person who is paid for these comments, who is constantly logged in to respond from different accounts?)
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      5. Divigr 23 March 2020 13: 22 New
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        Name the city.
      6. Gennady Korsunov 23 March 2020 13: 50 New
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        It turns out that it became better to live in the Krasnodar Territory than in Tyumen !! I’ll tell the guys let them knock to the house to the house !!
        1. Octopus 23 March 2020 14: 23 New
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          It turns out that it became better to live in the Krasnodar Territory than in Tyumen !!

          30 thousand dirty. I won’t say it for everyone, but there is one large company that has an average salary in the Southern Federal District ..
      7. New Year day 23 March 2020 14: 12 New
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        Quote: seti
        I live in the Krasnodar Territory and do not see everything to be totally bad

        I agree with you, I also regularly visit people from other regions of the country as evidence of this. The question is, if they move to you, it means that the house has become very bad. After all, they don’t run from a good life
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          The question is, if they move to you, it means that the house has become very bad. After all, they don’t run from a good life

          Invalid output. They come from the northern regions because of the climate because they want the sea nearby. Because the developed infrastructure. A lot of work. I myself am a newcomer. There are those who, and vice versa, are leaving, and in the northern regions. Expensive housing - my 2-bedroom apartment cost me 3.3 million wooden. My brothers live in Yekaterinburg and do not think to move - there, hunting and fishing are much better there.
          1. New Year day 23 March 2020 14: 36 New
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            They come from over the climate from the northern regions,

            what are the subsidies for moving, what kind of lifting do they get? Who provides the immigrants with housing? After all, any move is a mini-fire. He needs money!
            1. seti 23 March 2020 14: 42 New
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              Something you hit the wrong way. Started for oil and load for moving. And actively minus.
              My move is my problem. I have long been saying hope for yourself and help yourself. I saved up with my hump, found a new job in a new place, sold what I had, bought housing in a new place. Moved some of the property and the child. No one helped me, no one subsidized. You probably expect everything from someone? It is my choice.
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                Quote: seti
                Started for oil and load for moving.

                so you yourself brought KK as an argument
                Quote: seti
                I live in the Krasnodar Territory and don’t see everything to be totally bad - on the contrary, the country is developing for me

                I agreed with you, you are fine. But nature does not tolerate emptiness-: if somewhere is good, then somewhere is bad. In Russia, most regions are subsidized and the depreciation of the ruble will inevitably affect the standard of living. An example is 2014.
                Quote: seti
                I hoarded my hump

                So do I. But then we must be satisfied- "our hut with the edge"
                But what about the others who are so unlucky?
                Quote: seti
                And actively minus.

                this is not for me. Now I'll put you +
                1. seti 23 March 2020 15: 07 New
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                  Man himself is the builder of his destiny - this is from Omar Khayyam. Someone gets 30 thousand and is happy as an elephant, and someone gets 100 and screams from all angles that they do not appreciate him. People are different and the attitude to one event is different.
                  Not by hearsay I know two regions - the Sverdlovsk region of Yekaterinburg and the Krasnodar Territory. You can live well in both.
      8. lis-ik 23 March 2020 18: 12 New
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        Quote: seti
        Personally, I’m a hard worker and not an oligarch - I don’t steal money if anything - I live on my own money and, nevertheless, for 10 years I have earned a good 2 year old car and a maxiscooter from scratch for a new 5-room apartment. Himself on a simple job. Having on hand the 7th child. Without help.

        Then I read that you have a salary in the region of 70t.r. Honestly, I don’t understand how you managed to get all this. My wife and I have an income of 300t.r +., We have been living in a country house with a permanent construction site for the third year. We do not rent an apartment. The last 2 years of major work has not been carried out, we can’t collect the necessary amount. I needed to buy a new car for work (commercial van), I had to take half the amount on credit (I’ll sell the old and most of the repayments). We don’t gag, we pay a communal apartment for an apartment, for a house, taxes, we keep two cars. Yes, and no children. And for you, everything is simple and wonderful. With an income of 70t.r., it’s just not realistic, you can’t feed seven and don’t dress. So the wife’s income is significant or you’re a middle-level official or this is a chatter.
        1. seti 23 March 2020 18: 45 New
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          Quote: lis-ik
          Quote: seti
          Having on hand the 7th child.

          Then I read that you have a salary in the region of 70t.r. Honestly, I don’t understand how you managed to get all this. My wife and I have an income of 300t.r +., We have been living in a country house with a permanent construction site for the third year. We do not rent an apartment. The last 2 years of major work has not been carried out, we can’t collect the necessary amount. I needed to buy a new car for work (commercial van), I had to take half the amount on credit (I’ll sell the old and most of the repayments). We don’t gag, we pay a communal apartment for an apartment, for a house, taxes, we keep two cars. Yes, and no children. And for you, everything is simple and wonderful. With an income of 70t.r., it’s just not realistic, you can’t feed seven and don’t dress. So the wife’s income is significant or you’re a middle-level official or this is a chatter.

          You did not correctly understand the comment about the child - yes, you can understand it in two ways. I wrote that having a 7-year-old ... (!) Not at all the seventh :) I reread it myself laughed.
          My earnings at the enterprise are 70 thousand. I live, as you understand, together with a child he is almost 8 years old. For a communal apartment I get about 3.5-4.2 thousand for 2 com. I have almost no left spending - food, fishing + gasoline are my main expenses on the side. So I mainly save salaries - I have few expenses. Sometimes I work as a brigade on foundations and blind areas, lay aerated concrete and brick. But this is infrequent.
          After three months I have 20 years of experience as a mechanical engineer. Maxiskuter Yamaha xmah 300 bought a new one from the passenger compartment. Octavia took 5 years through a friend. This is my 2 cars - the first sold back in Yekaterinburg .. Everything is fair. The plans are to save a child an apartment - they are just building a house, the same company in which they bought their housing.
          1. Octopus 23 March 2020 21: 41 New
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            Quote: seti
            having a 7-year-old ... (!) Not at all the seventh

            I also read about the seventh, as a result of which you are inadequate.
            Do you understand that
            1. $ 1100 for two, what do you consider prosperity is very little? That is, conditionally, to buy the same Octavia, but you can’t buy a new one? In general, the list of what you cannot buy is very long.
            2. Have your $ 1100 just become $ 900? After all, you live in a country where almost nothing is produced inside, so everyone has expenses here in one way or another - in dollars.
            3. And most importantly - do you understand that, like almost all “prosperous” people in Russia, a candle in the wind? Health problems, or problems with work or, problems with the cops, in all cases you can be guilty of nothing - but your "well-being" is over? Have you thought about retirement yet? About what education your child can get, how much can it cost?
            1. seti 24 March 2020 08: 50 New
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              It is useless to argue with you - personally, I have more than enough for my 70 thousand for two. I can even put it off. I don’t have any more requests. I bought a pvc boat and pit 15 for fishing and enough - I don’t look at boats on our boat.
              I’ve been to the EU (Germany, Poland, Hungary) twice and I’ll say at least swim - there the majority of the people there are less than we are. Houses from parents, cars on credit. Life there is more expensive than ours. They live more modest and more difficult.
              At the expense of the fact that nothing is being done inside of us - a complete lie, we produce almost everything; there’s nothing to even talk about. If you see cons in everything, then this is your position in life.
              New car ? Yes expensive but I could buy it a question why if I took a practically new car for 700 thousand with a minimum mileage saving 500 thousand? And I could buy a new fret, but I wanted Octavia because I already knew this car. I'm ready for retirement.
              If I was able to finish two universities for my hard-earned money, then the child will also unlearn it. Do not hesitate.
              1. Octopus 24 March 2020 09: 33 New
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                Quote: seti
                for the most part has less than us

                ))
                Less than your 70? Less than the average for the Krasnodar Territory 30 dirty?
                Quote: seti
                They live more modest and more difficult.

                They ride bicycles, poor ones.
                Quote: seti
                we produce almost everything here, there’s nothing to even talk about

                A man writes with a Czech-German car and a Japanese moped in Chinese, I suppose, a telephone.
                Quote: seti
                almost a new car for 700 thousand with minimal mileage

                Quote: seti
                good 5 year old car

                Not sure if you understand what a new car is. This is not to say that a five-year-old car is some kind of bump, but it is a five-year-old car.
                Quote: seti
                could buy a new fret west

                This is the point that you can buy a new Lada Vesta, not a new one bike Golf at least. What you call prosperity is a great economy.
                Quote: seti
                I'm ready for retirement.

                Quote: seti
                I can even put it off. I have no more requests

                EVEN you can. Do you realize that your argument is "Did not live well, do not start figs"?
                1. seti 24 March 2020 10: 17 New
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                  I’m afraid you don’t have one, and you are generally a miserable person. I went to my classmate twice — he was a long-range truck in Germany under a long-term contract. There was something to talk about with him. There was nothing to compare. Yes, the Germans live a richer fact. But not all. And everyone else in the EU ...? It’s not enough to receive 2-3 thousand euros. How many of them will be left after deduction of taxes and obligatory expenses. And how much in Poland or other countries receive this money? Not so much. Everyone has no new cars there - I did not see a BMW or a Mercedes in all families. A lot - a lot of cars older than 5 years.
                  They grilled a grill at a classmate in the courtyard - it was clear that it was not a big smoke. The neighbors came running and started complaining - as a result, we were fined 120 euros. We would not have paid attention.
                  My car is assembled in Kaluga if that. Well, the scooter was bought consciously by the Japanese - I like the Yamaha because the outboard motor is also this brand. To each his own - complain about the fate, Putin, the government further.
                  I could work for the post and get even more, but I have a child in his arms, he needs to take time, learn lessons at last, cook food - but I repeat, I have enough money for living in the Russian Federation. Yes, I will not hide the desire to get more, but you need to choose something, then sacrifice ..
    2. A009 23 March 2020 11: 09 New
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      Can I clarify where you get such information from? Quite often I see your side, if not an explicit lie, then a clear distortion. Can you explain for 300-400 thousand? for example, the last 5 years, for example?
      1. evgic 23 March 2020 13: 09 New
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        You can not. He invents it in the course of the discussion, in order to refute it, you need to spend at least half an hour surfing the Internet, and he needs to breach - 10 seconds. And not everyone else will then read your refutation, the main thing is to spit first.
        1. Leshy1975 23 March 2020 14: 51 New
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          Quote: evgic
          You can not. He invents it in the course of the discussion, in order to refute it, you need to spend at least half an hour surfing the Internet, and he needs to breach - 10 seconds. And not everyone else will then read your refutation, the main thing is to spit first.

          It's not beautiful somehow it turns out. You accused Svarog (Vladimir) of
          and he cheated
          that there is no such figure of population decline of 300-400 thousand. Well, TASS publishes it:
          MOSCOW, February 20. / TASS /. The natural population decline in January-December 2019 amounted to 316,2 thousand people

          No desire to apologize to Svarog (Vladimir)?
          Or, if you don’t want to apologize, then simply refute the TASS data, which in turn refers to the Rosstat data. Please refute, indicating the source of your truthful information. In order not to have to assume that it was you, and not Svarog (Vladimir), just according to your expression and
          and to him to breach - 10 seconds
          .

          PS I hope for your decency. hi
      2. Leshy1975 23 March 2020 14: 21 New
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        Quote: A009
        Can I clarify where you get such information from? Quite often I see your side, if not an explicit lie, then a clear distortion. Can you explain for 300-400 thousand? for example, the last 5 years, for example?

        I will explain to you for it (source TASS from 20.02.2020):
        MOSCOW, February 20. / TASS /. The natural population decline in January-December 2019 amounted to 316,2 thousand people, which exceeds the similar indicator for 2018 by 93 thousand people. This is stated in Rosstat report on the socio-economic situation of Russia, published on the site departments on Thursday.

        Well, where is the obvious distortion from Svarog (Vladimir)? The official figure is certainly less than 400 thousand, but at the same time more than 300 thousand.
        And in fact, Svarog (Vladimir) said everything correctly - the Russian Federation is dying out, even according to official data.
        1. Loess 23 March 2020 15: 14 New
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          Quote: Leshy1975
          I will explain it to you

          Quote: Svarog
          Russia dies 300-400 thousand people a year.

          This phrase is “in the year”, not in the current year, but in the year, i.e. annually.
          Quote: A009
          for example, the last 5 years, for example?

          On the example of the last 5 years, this figure does not work out.
          Quote: Leshy1975
          Well, where is the obvious distortion from Svarog

          Here is the distortion. You can see for yourself.
        2. A009 24 March 2020 11: 54 New
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          Since you decided to talk for a person, then I will object to it. Let's be more reasonable and see the statistics directly in the Federal State Statistics Service. Good?
          15 year profit.
          16-profit
          17 decrease -134 thousand
          18 decrease-224 thousand
          19 decrease - 106 thousand
          This is all pure demography (without migration, from the same Ukraine) In this case, Wikipedia does not even lie.
          I repeat the question and my thesis about "juggling." Where does the data about 300-400 thousand extinction come from (I recall that there is still migration, in this case not taken into account)? If this is not a jerking then what ?? The picture is not rosy, but for theatricality next time write 300 million. Add more nerve.
          1. Leshy1975 24 March 2020 12: 27 New
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            Quote: A009
            The natural population decline in January-December 2019 amounted to 316,2 thousand people, which exceeds the similar indicator for 2018 by 93 thousand people. This is stated in the report of the Federal State Statistics Service

            Of course in Rosstat, but where else: open the section - Publications, then open the section - Catalog of Publications. Open - Information on the socio-economic situation of Russia. Find - MoscowINFORMATION ABOUT SOCIO-ECONOMIC POSITION OF RUSSIAJanuary 2020. Open p. 91 and see.

            Especially for you, I circled the figure in red, otherwise you will not notice.
            Natural decline The population in January-December 2019 amounted to 316,2 thousand people.
            Natural population decline - this is the predominance of mortality over fertility due to natural reasons.

            PS It is interesting that you will further say this.
            1. A009 24 March 2020 13: 01 New
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              In this case, I'm wrong.
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                Quote: A009
                In this case, I'm wrong.

                Thanks for the decency. hi Not many people have the courage to admit that they were mistaken. Could, would put you some pluses. It is precisely because you have your own position and inner core.
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      This is exactly what happens. Russia dies 300-400 thousand people a year. Incomes of the population are constantly decreasing..
      Oh namesake, you would be in Ukraine, that you understand the meaning of the phrase - "everything is known in comparison" ... recourse just kidding of course. I wouldn’t wish that to the enemy. no Well, nothing. even out ...
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    1. Machito 23 March 2020 10: 35 New
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      The oil war a priori cannot benefit the oil producing Russia. Another US conspiracy with the Arabs could seriously undermine our economy. As if Rublev did not strangle us with tightened belts.
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        Quote: Bearded
        The oil war a priori cannot benefit the oil producing Russia.

        And why? Because, the Saudis were joined by Iraq and Kuwait. The result was a sort of front of the Arabs and the United States that joined them.

        hence, slamming the door cannot be a constructive thing; you still have to negotiate. The conditions, however, will be different and they will be dictated by the winner.
        How is Salman gathering strength? - He shook his oligarchs, froze megaprojects, but retained preferences for the middle class.
        How did our government act before? - Uploaded government = budget money in the company and strengthened the tax burden on the population.
        How will it end? Who has more safety margin. The more the Kremlin will pump in Rosneft and Lukoil in order to avoid their bankruptcy (in the absence of oil sales or its unacceptable price), the more it will put pressure on the population. And who undermines stability in the country?
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    3. maks007 23 March 2020 11: 13 New
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      Quote: Snail N9

      Cool Sechin "defended" Russia.


      Information is outdated and not relevant on 23.03.20/18.03.20/XNUMX or even was already out of date on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh4EhAIVzF8
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0R3ErxFn5s&list=RDCMUCSQSxUJb4zH1SEpzNerSLLg&index=2

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dO-fBKm-gA
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    it's all because mostly couch generals come from Ukraine and we all know their attitude to Putin sechin
    1. Leshy1975 23 March 2020 10: 59 New
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      Quote: sla1372
      it's all because mostly couch generals come from Ukraine and we all know their attitude to Putin sechin

      And we, even though not originally from Ukraine, also know the real attitude to Putin. We know that the network has disabled comments under the speeches of Mr. Putin. Because 8 out of 10 wish him that !!! So where is his enthusiastic overwhelming majority in reality?
      Maybe they exist only in the figures of the election commission and VTsIOM?
    2. New Year day 23 March 2020 14: 25 New
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      mostly couch generals hailing from Ukraine

      Are you from the Garden Ring? Or from Nametkina street?
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    Putin and K personally are the enemy of the people

    maybe you're right?
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    [/ quote] Judging by the heart-rending response of world experts at the sofa level, we will lose wherever we can, are doomed and will die like mammoths.


    We won’t die out. We’ll start planting and driving moonshine (a knight's move on crisis).

    The Russian leadership is entirely traitors who sleep and see how to dig into the labor throat of the people and suck our money to the last drop. Well, personally, Putin and K are the enemy of the people and personally of every couch general. [Quote]



    And they will dig in, because the people (citizen) do not think about how to maintain and increase their capital.
  • Ross xnumx 23 March 2020 10: 14 New
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    If anyone will benefit for themselves, it’s Sechin, and not the people of Russia.

    good
    Quote: seti
    Maybe it's time to turn on the brains and understand what the Russian Federation is trying to remove from all markets

    negative
    The fall in oil prices led to a sharp depreciation of the ruble. However, it is possible that Russia will not only survive in the oil war, but will also win it.

    Oil produced in Russia by half does not belong to it. Rosneft, having various “foreigners” on the board of directors, cannot be responsible for the country and work in its interests, otherwise domestic prices at gas stations would be low. If these prices rise, this phenomenon means that the owners do not want to lose profits, even in the interests of the state.
    You ask Novak who these people are who “pushed” Russia into the background with the cost of oil at $ 3,5 per barrel. Take an interest in how many billions the Central Bank has placed on the market to maintain the ruble exchange rate (although by their logic it could fall until the bottom reaches) ...
    Only the nationalization of natural resources and minerals will allow the country to regain statehood. Zeroing is like death.
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      The government does not plan to nullify the owners of oil companies; it is easier for it to nullify the people's savings.
      Zero to zero laughing
      1. Gennady Korsunov 23 March 2020 14: 11 New
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        They started to zero immediately from the president! His tenure, the people of savings !!
  • Malyuta 23 March 2020 10: 13 New
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    Quote: DMB 75
    If anyone will benefit for themselves, it’s Sechin, and not the people of Russia.

    It’s just not only Sechin, there are enough devils there, but the people of Rosiii will continue to be poor, especially if the epidemiological factor is still superimposed.
  • knn54 23 March 2020 10: 26 New
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    While the Yankees are winning, Europe and China.
    KSA oil companies are PERSONAL dynasty companies. In the Russian Federation, they are mostly private.
    The "obstinacy" on this issue is also alarming.
    I agree with the opinion of those who believe that not close billionaires will pay.
    But now the Saudi neighbors are sad as well.
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    All right, to ordinary people before the lantern, all these showdowns, no one will get a ruble from this from Murmansk, Kaliningrad to PetroPavlovsk-Kamchatsky. Some accomplices sechin and company.
  • iouris 23 March 2020 15: 53 New
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    If anyone benefits for themselves, it’s

    The economics classics taught that "volatility far exceeds your financial resources." In this case, ours.
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    Russia can derive some benefit for itself from the oil war. Firstly, this is the elimination of producers from the oil market with high production costs of oil. As we know, these are American shale oil producers,

    Will they always be eliminated? or until the price of oil rises?
    What an absurdity ..
    At the same time, experts argue that the longer oil prices are maintained (within a reasonable time frame), the better it will be for Russia: the same competing US shale sector will be, if not completely destroyed, then frayed so that it takes at least 5 to recover -6 years.

    And where do they get such experts .. Americans will recover for 5-6 years .. yes, in 6 months they will restore everything ..
    1. Ross xnumx 23 March 2020 10: 17 New
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      And where do they get such experts .. Americans will recover for 5-6 years .. yes, in 6 months they will restore everything ..

      Do not rule out the printing press as a means of acquiring any goods in the world, including oil.
  • China 23 March 2020 10: 05 New
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    Russia is simply obliged to jump off oil and offer the world a completely new and sought-after product!
    Now or never!
    1. Insurgent 23 March 2020 10: 28 New
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      Quote: China
      Russia is simply obliged to jump off oil and offer the world a completely new and sought-after product!
      Now or never!


      Or maybe so? :



      Or demonstrate real actions to refuse to trade for $ USA by sending green ones to the target:



      That jonht,not against...
      Quote: jonht
      I really hope that this trade war will push for more active trading on our exchange, our oil, for our rubles. And by itself, avoiding the dollar in these operations will be a small victory.
      1. Cat Kuzya 23 March 2020 10: 47 New
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        Or maybe so?

        Rather, it will be like this:
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          Quote: Karl Friedrich Jerome Baron von Munchausen
          Even if you have managed to become a cannibal's dinner, you still have TWO EXITS


          WE WILL BE OPTIMISTS
    2. New Year day 23 March 2020 14: 30 New
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      Quote: China
      Russia is simply obliged to jump off oil

      laughing
      17.04.1715:35
      Medvedev reported to Putin that the country was almost off the oil needle
      "Over the past year, 64 percent of revenues have already been generated from non-oil sources - the so-called non-oil revenues."
      https://www.kp.ru/daily/26667/3689210/
    3. iouris 23 March 2020 17: 51 New
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      brand new and sought after product!

      Gravitsaps? And if the enemy offers a way to do without oil and gas?
  • jonht 23 March 2020 10: 09 New
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    I really hope that this trade war will push for more active trading on our exchange, our oil, for our rubles. And by itself, avoiding the dollar in these operations will be a small victory.
    1. Scipio 23 March 2020 10: 21 New
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      This requires a leadership independent of the West! Ours is all in the west, so do not wait .....
    2. Snail N9 23 March 2020 10: 25 New
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      I really hope that this trade war will push for more active trading on our exchange, our oil, for our rubles.

      Yeah. But just "to whom" - "for rubles"? request
    3. Leshy1975 23 March 2020 11: 02 New
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      Quote: jonht
      I really hope that this trade war will push for more active trading on our exchange, our oil, for our rubles. And by itself, avoiding the dollar in these operations will be a small victory.

      Hope this is certainly good. But who needs a falling ruble? Moreover, if, apart from this very raw material, in Russia by and large there is nothing more to buy? Then it’s rather for the yuan. hi
      1. jonht 24 March 2020 02: 13 New
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        A falling ruble costs a little, and therefore it is possible to get some profit from acquiring oil. And besides oil, there is wood, steel, aluminum, titanium, diamonds and much more raw materials. But all the same, you should not discount our weapons, whose share in the budget is not 1/4. Yes, even if you sell it for RMB, then this is more profitable for us.
    4. Oleg Zorin_2 23 March 2020 12: 49 New
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      Unfortunately, this is unscientific fiction. In conditions of excess oil, buyers simply twist their fingers at the temple and buy at a discount from the Saudis. And they will clap their hands.
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      that trade war will push for more active trading on our exchange, our oil

      and who buys more expensive for himself? Arabs dumping and you won’t do anything with them, villains laughing
  • Igoresha 23 March 2020 10: 14 New
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    it will be difficult for experts, most likely they will declare an ingenious multi-pathway the results of which will appear in time. and in time - a new misfortune
    1. Overlock 23 March 2020 17: 16 New
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      Quote: Igoresha
      most likely they will declare an ingenious multi-step, the results of which will appear over time. and in time - a new misfortune

      Trump is to blame for everything!
  • unaha 23 March 2020 10: 14 New
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    In general, it is not easy to understand what exactly is meant by the term "win." How can you win anything by losing 2/3 of the value of the goods. Here the subject of discussion can only be how severe the consequences will be, and for all parties. Nobody will win.
    1. Fan-fan 23 March 2020 14: 19 New
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      Why no one will win, the one who buys oil - China, Japan, Europe, and even the United States, who are now buying cheaper oil and filling it with all the stores, will win. In addition, their people are to their advantage, since gasoline is getting cheaper.
  • Stirbjorn 23 March 2020 10: 16 New
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    Secondly, the situation in the oil market will lead to a decrease in the competitiveness of American LNG compared to Russian gas. Under these conditions, the prospects for gas supplies via Nord Stream-2 are more than optimistic.
    It remains only to complete it, but this is a question for now.
    Unlike Russia, Saudi Arabia, with all its wealth, has a much more one-sided economy.
    Why, then, the course of the Saudi real, practically has not changed to
    dollar with a drop in oil, and the ruble flew down ?!
  • Whisper 23 March 2020 10: 17 New
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    In recent years, the real dollar exchange rate was supposed to be 43 rubles. He was 60. i.e. this is a deliberate decision by the authorities to remove bucks from the system. The budget rule is the so-called. Into a little egg. Now it will be the other way around. They will take from the egg capsule. Only when they take from it, it’s more profitable to take 120 ... because. bucks will change for rubles. Who does not understand, I am not to blame. Already, the course should be 104 ... but it is held. Count yourself based on the cost of a barrel of 2600 rubles
  • rocket757 23 March 2020 10: 18 New
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    The fall in oil prices led to a sharp depreciation of the ruble. However, it is possible that Russia will not only survive in the oil war, but will also win it.

    Let's wait, see .... we have something to lose, but you can also win. UNDEFINED!
    1. cniza 23 March 2020 14: 46 New
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      It’s not even a matter of losing, otherwise we will be squeezed out of the markets ...
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        Quote: cniza
        It’s not even a matter of losing, otherwise we will be squeezed out of the markets ...

        So it was, so it will continue, if nothing is done at all, or in someone else's (NOT FRIENDLY) fairway.
        1. cniza 23 March 2020 15: 46 New
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          That's just the point, there are wolf laws and the strongest survives, no one will babysit anyone ...
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            Quote: cniza
            the strongest survives, no one will babysit anyone ...

            absolutely right. To live with wolves, howl like a wolf. There is no other way
  • Scipio 23 March 2020 10: 19 New
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    But what if Putin and Novak fail to resolve the situation correctly? Answer who will be? That's right, we are the people .....
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      Responsible for the people right now.
      Tell me, what should be done at the government level at the moment, in connection with low oil prices?
      1. Scipio 23 March 2020 10: 31 New
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        What do we have to do? Support small and medium-sized businesses, temporarily abolish taxes, help citizens with loans (move the deadlines). To do what all normal governments in other countries of the world are doing. England, took over the payment of 80% of salaries so that there are no layoffs, the United States is ready to invest 3 trillion (a trillion, this is not a typo) in the economy, to allocate 3 bucks to Americans to maintain demand. What do we have? Hold on and don't panic .....
      2. Oleg Zorin_2 23 March 2020 12: 52 New
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        I can definitely say what to do was NOT NEEDED.
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      The people are always ... extreme. Even so, at least that way.
  • Fishery 23 March 2020 10: 19 New
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    it is easy for the Saudis to give loans, youth unemployment only because there is no sense and desire to work hard, in short, an article for those who have never been there before.
  • Nikolaevich I 23 March 2020 10: 27 New
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    "Everything is fine, beautiful marquise! Things are going and life is easy! Not a single sad surprise ... Except for a Trifle! ...
  • _Ugene_ 23 March 2020 10: 41 New
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    all is well, ordinary citizens only pay for it, as always, all imports rise in price in proportion to devaluation, and under the guise of Russian goods prices rise
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    1. Leshy1975 23 March 2020 11: 16 New
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      Russia has long been preparing for this situation

      Well, yes, I was preparing, I rewrote the price tags at gas stations and in stores upward. And now, when the time has come, these new, previously prepared price tags, began to hang out laughing
      remembering and considering the lessons of the collapse of the USSR

      And therefore, given the lessons, on some empty shelves began to put signs: The goods are on the way.
      Source (RBC, ru) The temporary lack of goods in some stores is related to the peculiarities of their laying on shelves, not with a general deficit, noted in the ministry.

      Well, in the USSR, of course, there were no such tablets. And statements about the lack of deficit were also at the beginning. However, the goods in the USSR also did not disappear in one week, but consistently moved to this for several years. So it all depends on how long the crisis lasts. hi
      1. Vladivostok1969 23 March 2020 15: 19 New
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        As oil prices fall in global markets, US gasoline will start to get cheaper. Here, prices at gas stations directly depend on the cost of a barrel of oil on the exchange. Now at a gas station in Kentucky, a gallon of Regular Octane gasoline, an analogue of our AI-92, costs $ 0,99 per gallon. A gallon is equal to 3,785 liters. In terms of liters at the rate of 80 rubles per dollar, 21 rubles are obtained.

        In fairness, let’s say that 20 rubles are given only at one gas station in Kentucky. For many, it fell to $ 1,7 per gallon (36 rubles per liter)
        More details: https://110km.ru/art/v-ssha-benzin-podeshevel-do-20-rubley-za-litr-129379.html

        And in the USA, the price tags are also being rewritten.
  • Leshy1975 23 March 2020 10: 50 New
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    The experience of President Vladimir Putin and the head of the Ministry of Energy, Alexander Novak, in making difficult decisions in the oil market will also play a role in Russia's victory.

    Yes, Novak has already demonstrated his “experience” when he left negotiations with OPEC with a scandal.
    Putin's experience in the oil market. Is there such a thing? Well, in the gas sector it’s clear, there is already experience. Unprofitable gas pipelines set up.
    But is it not Putin’s just “experience” that Novak broadcast during negotiations with OPEC?
    but the leaders of Saudi Arabia do not have such experience.

    What is it like? The leadership of the country, which has been producing oil for nearly 100 years, and which retains succession in the transfer of power, has not yet gained experience ?! And where are you? That's what I understand, "analytics"! laughing
    Already, the US is thinking about introducing restrictive measures for oil supplies from Russia and Saudi Arabia.

    Well, about the possible sanctions against Russian oil, everyone is already in the know, they read. But where did the information come from, what does this also apply to Saudi oil? It seemed that the United States was going to negotiate with the Saudis precisely due to the displacement of Russian oil (through sanctions).
    Under these conditions, the prospects for gas supplies via Nord Stream-2 are more than optimistic.

    In these conditions, if they last really long, China has already announced force majeure on gas purchases, well, Europeans are facing the same prospect. Which SP-2? It would fill in the existing one. Even now, Ukrainian transit capacities are not filled, but UGS facilities are still full.
    And this will happen on the initiative of Saudi Arabia, which risks much more than our country.
    Well, well, it is necessarily the only way. He defeated everyone, outplayed everyone. And there is such an experience:
    first, with the Ukrainian gas transportation system, which was brutally scrapped, and then, having “defeated Naftog”, they were forced to conclude an extremely unprofitable transit agreement.
    then here with RB. First, the leadership of the Russian Federation puffed out their cheeks and banged their legs, even stopped deliveries, but as a result (TASS source from 21.03.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX):
    Lukashenko reminded that he ordered to consider new offers of Russia for the supply of hydrocarbons, which arrived three days ago. "As I understand it, the Russians completely went to our offers for oil supplies? "
    the same competing US shale sector will be, if not completely destroyed, then frayed so that it will take at least 5-6 years to recover.

    Well, this is already a little, just the author mixed up the years with the months.

    PS The article draws on a strong TWO, with a minus. laughing
    And something repeats this lie in the Russian-language media: Saudi Arabia and Iraq said that they will not be able to provide the previously promised discounts on oil supplies under the terms of the contract due to a record increase in tanker transportation rates.
    Because in reality, it was another matter: the impossibility to provide transportation discounts, i.e. the cost of transportation, KSA will not compensate.
    Indeed, why should they do this, if the price of tanker freight has grown because there is no free freight, everyone is lined up for cheap Saudi oil.

    PPS There is no success, let's lie that is. It already really annoys me. Yes, you deed prove that success is stronger. And not piling up a mountain of lies, which all one quickly crumbles, it is worth looking at it more carefully. request
    1. Oleg Zorin_2 23 March 2020 12: 56 New
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      The experience, of course, is enormous. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjt8kZfAJDc
  • 1970mk 23 March 2020 10: 56 New
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    It's funny And the funniest thing is that this “Russia” can win anything .... at the expense of its population. When, finally, people think of the essence of these slogans - “Russia” ETA and the people inhabiting are not the same thing ... “Russia” is winning something, but a people with a middle class of 17t.r. can put teeth on a shelf.
  • Andrey the Magnificent 23 March 2020 11: 39 New
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    Slepakov wrote a song about this 4 years ago
    https://youtu.be/T_U7HxOzhWw
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    1. Vadim777 23 March 2020 12: 18 New
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      Sobyanin will not support, Moscow suffocated in its traffic
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    Russia will be able to benefit if it changes its approach to domestic tax policy and ceases to add oil to one pipeline
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  • Oleg Zorin_2 23 March 2020 12: 45 New
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    Recently, articles of Mr. Polonsky began to annoy with a claim to barely concealed cheers-patriotism and pathos sucked out of the finger.
  • ZaharoFF 23 March 2020 13: 40 New
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    As long as the Country, represented by certain heroes of labor, benefits or wins in this war, citizens, you and I will be left without pants. hi
  • Mikhail3 23 March 2020 14: 20 New
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    For us, a jump in the dollar means rising prices for everything. For products somewhere around 25%, for manufactured goods by 50% or more. That week was in the store - a package of cherry juice cost 90 rubles. And yesterday it’s 132 rubles, just like from a bush ... In conditions when the currency has melted and demand has subsided, the same thing happens - all payments cease, except for those that you can’t get enough of.
    In Russia, the budget completely stops paying. He already constantly delays payments for a year or two, and now no one knows how much even from the budget, even those who have been waiting a couple of years. That is, millions of enterprises and organizations are dying right now. The state, of course, is on its guard. At a rapid pace, it collects debts and defaults in order to increase its performance as much as possible.
    In general, is it possible to fasten the wick about the "victory of Russia in the oil war"? I do not know this your strange Russia, I live in another. In the one in which it is not clear that I will have to eat in a month ...
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    it is possible that Russia will not only survive in the oil war, but will also win it.

    What does "not excluded" mean? Russia is just must to win in it. Otherwise, there was nothing to get involved in this war.
  • ser56 23 March 2020 14: 41 New
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    something the Hussites did not shoot at fields in the DAC for a long time ... request
  • cniza 23 March 2020 14: 45 New
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    As we know, these are the American producers of shale oil, in which the collapse in prices hit in the first place. Already, the US is thinking about introducing restrictive measures for oil supplies from Russia and Saudi Arabia.


    A long game, do we have enough resources ...
    1. Gost2012 23 March 2020 16: 11 New
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      As we know, these are the American producers of shale oil, in which the collapse in prices hit in the first place. Already, the US is thinking about introducing restrictive measures for oil supplies from Russia and Saudi Arabia.


      A long game, do we have enough resources ...

      Enough, everyone is doing the right thing. There are two main tasks for the Russian Federation in this war - to establish restrictions not on production but on export, since it is export that sets prices, and the Russian Federation has more domestic consumption than the rest. And the second is to put American oil workers at the negotiating table, they are now a major player and should also participate in restricting exports.
      The SA will not be able to resist for a long time, they are already trembling. And the first furious reaction of the young and hot prince with a funny result speaks of his immaturity and unwillingness to play on equal terms with adults. This time they are again piled on the Kremlin. After the Crimea, they, under the influence of the USA, tried to bring down the Russian economy with oil prices, the ruble fell, it was the case. Sechin then said - you can play this game together, and after a counter increase in production, the SA requested a truce and the name of the Russian Federation was in OPEC. Igor Ivanovich said - we are not interested. It turned out OPEC +, where the Russian Federation explained to the rest. Now there is a consolidation of the material covered and the development of new conditions acceptable to the Russian Federation. Kremlin oilmen are real wolves, and they picked up time and thought out everything. There will be new rules after all.
      1. NordUral 23 March 2020 20: 58 New
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        And if you think about Gost2012?
        1. Gost2012 23 March 2020 22: 26 New
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          Quote: NordUral
          And if you think about Gost2012?

          Well try, and I will help you))
          All OPEC produces a third of world oil. OPEC + (Together with the Russian Federation and others.) - More and able to influence the price by reducing production. The price supported in this way is acceptable for the United States, but they are not bound by restrictions and increase how much they can digest. This leads to a further limitation of OPEC + production and so on in a circle.
          At the same time, the Russian Federation is larger than the OPEC + countries, and consume more in the domestic market, i.e. with limited production, export suffers, the market leaves, including to the United States. Why the hell the Russian Federation such a deal, in which even at a good price money comes into the country less and less, and in the US more and more? At some point in time, with a squeezed market, the United States will announce sanctions against the purchase of Russian oil and the price will cease to matter at all. So the markets need to be maintained and expanded, while maintaining the influx of money into the country at the expense of volumes. The volumes are divided, so you need to move someone. In principle, it doesn’t matter who, the CA or the USA, because nothing personal.
          It will be possible to agree on the condition that all the major players agree to limit the export, not the extraction, and the United States should be among them, otherwise no deal makes sense. Right now, there is coercion to a new deal.
          The SA’s actions are not professional at all - announcing discounts on emotions without worrying about delivery, then announcing no, there will be no discounts — it was stupid, as if the prince was Putin’s agent.
          The CA has some problems, it’s not all chocolate there, the old deposits are running out, the new ones are higher, and they still need to be developed. Neither the USA nor the SA to the EU have pipe transport; the CA still has an unfinished war. The USA is very limited in price, and all songs about state support are good, but require at least one fact. The CA forms the entire budget at the expense of oil, and the Russian Federation is much less so. The Russian Federation supported the price of oil in OPEC +, took a breath, gathered some reserves and launched an attack in its interests. Not in Sechin’s interests, but in the interests of the Russian Federation, the decision was made by state people. We chose the right time, we thought it over, very well done.

          Well, form your vision, if you think about it, bother, and state it. Only I beg you, without any nonsense about stolen pensions and the stupid and greedy Sechin and other nonsense, in the style of "take everything and share."
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            The SA’s actions are not professional at all - announcing discounts on emotions without worrying about delivery, then announcing no, there will be no discounts — it was stupid, as if the prince was Putin’s agent.


            That's the line to the Saudis lined up.

            Only I beg you, without any nonsense about the stolen pensions and the stupid and greedy Sechin and other nonsense, in the style of "take everything and share."

            So in the 90s EVERYTHING was taken and divided, and in the 2000s it was divided again.
            I suggest returning everything to the people.

            And last, time will prove the criminality of the actions of the authorities of the Russian Federation.
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              That's the line to the Saudis lined up

              They saw for themselves, Ali Svarog sang?

              For once, a competent person decided to talk with you, uh ... negative
              1. NordUral 23 March 2020 23: 06 New
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                Jack, calm down. Very literate, I will not bother him with broadcasting about grand victories.
                1. Golovan Jack 23 March 2020 23: 09 New
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                  I will not bother him about grand victories

                  Yes, it is not a matter of victories, there are still far from victories.

                  And a person writes things to himself completely correct, and in simple language. Well done good
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                    The syllable is good, Jack, but in fact - let's wait.
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            Quote: Gost2012
            Well, form your vision, if you think about it, bother, and state

            It is not difficult.
            Quote: Gost2012
            So the markets need to be maintained and expanded, while maintaining the flow of money into the country due to volumes

            Problem 1, the Russian Federation does not have free mining capacities. She already earned her maximum and cannot get more than it was due to volumes. Unlike CA. CA also loses with such a drawdown, but CA increased production by 1.5 times, and Russia - by 3%.
            Quote: Gost2012
            The US will announce sanctions against the purchase of Russian oil and the price will cease to matter at all

            Good idea. Right now, additional volumes of oil are appearing on the market, which make it possible to painlessly remove Russia from it. They used to be - in the potential of producing SA, but now it is real oil.
            Quote: Gost2012
            including should be the United States

            Never The United States will not be among them.
            Quote: Gost2012
            coercion to a new deal.

            Forcing whom? Forcing the world's largest the buyer oil to limit their domestic production?
            Quote: Gost2012
            delivery, then declare no, there will be no discounts

            You are misinterpreting, I don’t know if consciously. CA gives a discount of 12 bucks to Brent, freight increased by 7, total 5. It turns out that the shipowners were the most welded on this topic. But the SA has its own tankers, so everything is not so simple.
            Quote: Gost2012
            CA has some problems, it’s not all chocolate there, the old deposits are running out, the new ones are higher, and they still need to be developed

            Someone mixed up the SA and the Russian Federation.
            Quote: Gost2012
            Neither the USA nor the SA to the EU have pipe transport

            Who cares? Transneft 10 years ago suggested closing Friendship and leaving only tankers from the Baltic and Black Sea terminals. The pipe is not free, especially the pipe through the Old Man and Poland.
            Quote: Gost2012
            USA is very limited in price

            US spit on price. They did not die at 120 and at 12 they will not die, I assure you. Yes, someone will go bankrupt, but for the United States this is not a tragedy, at least take the same Trump.
            Quote: Gost2012
            RF is much less so.

            Russian economy - exchange of hydrocarbons for beads Bentley The rest of the economy is basically scrolling the same money through the budget, retail, etc.
            Quote: Gost2012
            Not in Sechin’s interests

            The fact of the matter is that it’s not even in Sechin’s interests. They just killed themselves against the wall, purely by courage.
            1. Liam 23 March 2020 23: 45 New
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              Right now, additional volumes of oil are appearing on the market, which make it possible to painlessly remove Russia from it.

              Add the collapse of demand volumes in connection with the upcoming global recession.
              PySy. The disappearance from the market in just a couple of years of such not the last row of miners as Iran, Libya, Venezuela, who, in aggregate, certainly did not even notice Rosneft's export level. These disappeared one by one and the cartel reduced and reduced production. I’m surprised if, for the sake of squeezing the Russian market, Iran will be allowed to sell a million other barrels for humanitarian reasons. Something like oil in exchange for mechanical ventilation)
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                Quote: Liam
                I won’t be surprised if Iran is allowed to sell a million other barrels for the sake of squeezing the Russian market

                I understand your optimism, but I do not share it. I do not see any systematic efforts by partners regarding Russophobia. In my opinion, the situation will be limited to problems that the Russian leadership created independently.
                Quote: Liam
                An interview with Fedun, too. He is generally afraid that Rosneft will gobble up his Lukoil, which was ruined with such prices.

                This is one of the jokes on the Russian market. Everyone is waiting when they come for Lukoil (and giggle vilely), and no one expects that they will come for Surgut (and also giggle vilely). Already from this fact alone it can be considered precisely established to whom Surgut personally belongs.
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                  in terms of Russophobia

                  This is not the case. As one socially close in kind (and spirit) activity also said igorivanycha .....nothing personal, just business
                  The market collapses a little in the near and long term, and the stronger ones will devour those who are weaker. Especially if it was caught on the game with marked cards
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                    eat those who are weaker

                    Yes, but you should not repeat the mistake of most participants in the thread. The USA is not petrocracy. In addition to the Amenikan igorivanychi, which naturally exist, there is a simple Johnny with his vote in the election and his Ford F-150. So political interest is pushing oil down, not up. Yes, it happened, and it happened more than once, when the States made decisions pushing oil up, and to hell with Jony with his hanger (especially often it happened under Obama, the great Democrat). But in these cases (Iran, Libya, Venezuela) a great case was presented, for which it is not a pity to pay. To bury the Soviet zombies back is not yet on the agenda. And under trump does not rise.
            2. Gost2012 24 March 2020 15: 54 New
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              Forcing whom? Forcing the world's largest the buyer oil to limit their domestic production?

              If you consciously read what I wrote, then you read that I was talking not about oil production, but about oil export. Those. exporting countries should set quotas for sales, not for production.
              Historically, US refining and shale oil production are unrelated. Perhaps because shale technology came later. Therefore, low oil prices reduce the cost of petroleum products in the United States, but kill production. When Trump demands to lower oil prices - this is populism for gasoline consumers, when it requires to restore the correct price level and raise - this is populism for producers. Such a layout laughing
              Therefore, despite the fact that the United States is a major buyer of oil, they are also a major exporter.
              In Russia, oil refining and production are in the same technological chain.
              For the rest, I suggest that you first at least superficially familiarize yourself with the topic before slogan driving your country into the mud. The economy of the Russian Federation is far from being an “exchange of oil for Bentley,” the production, processing and marketing of hydrocarbons is not at all a simple matter. When you read in the media that oil has “collapsed”, you can even find a link, say, to the Rotterdam exchange, but what prices actually work you don’t know. The price in Rotterdam is a certain basic index, from which the calculation is made, and then premiums, ratios, accounting for transport, quality, etc. go. etc.
              The oil business of the Russian Federation is the heir from the USSR, it is a serious school, respected throughout the world, the best.
              It’s not very clear why you are trying to denigrate your country, to reduce the importance of the industry, reducing it to an “exchange of oil for Bentley,” but not seeing that it should be attributed to CAs, which really have nothing but oil, which is not very clear how much is left.
              1. Octopus 24 March 2020 17: 28 New
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                Quote: Gost2012
                quotas for sale, not for production.

                I have seen. This is not important, it is possible, but it is possible that way.
                Quote: Gost2012
                populism for gas consumers, when it requires restoring the correct price level and raising it - this is populism for miners

                Yes. But there are more consumers.
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                a major buyer of oil, they are also a major exporter.

                Net importer, yet. Only here is the import from Canada mainly.
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                the production, processing and marketing of hydrocarbons is not at all a simple matter.

                You want to tell me that $ 2 of the cost of igorivanych with which he trumped is not true, is it?
                1. Gost2012 24 March 2020 20: 42 New
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                  Quote: Octopus
                  Quote: Gost2012
                  quotas for sale, not for production.

                  I have seen. This is not important, it is possible, but it is possible that way.

                  Basically, I kind of clearly explained why. Once again - the Russian Federation produces a lot and consumes a lot. With limited production, consumption is the same, exports suffer. Arabs do not consume as much oil. The share of Russian exports suffers more.
                  The United States refines the oil that it bought, and sells all that it produces. All this volume is the narrowing of the market OPEC + went to in order to maintain prices. Therefore, they should be considered as exporters in this situation, and act accordingly. Which is happening.
                  I do not know the cost of either Igoryivanych or anyone else. I believe that on this forum there is not a single person who would know such information for sure.
                  Stop pouring slop on everything that happens in your country, take your head out of the 90s, refresh and turn it on. Criticism leads to wrinkles and shortens life.
  • UserGun 23 March 2020 15: 44 New
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    To go nuts! Victory is to pump oil and put the whole world on its own needle))) author, it’s some kind of Pyrrhic victory, which is no better when you are heartbreakingly writing about Saudi Arabia))) And the wedge didn’t agree on some kind of RF. Honestly, it’s funny to read how the Russian Federation takes over the world with the help of oil))) It’s even funnier to dream about how we will “command” the pagans and no less pagans the rest of the country to please local, rotenbergs and other gyro labor, as well as local “chatter” "))) Well and in the" forward "Russia, not far from the CA in export (64,7 versus 63,7))))) So we are no different from the CA in these respects and somehow strive for some kind of" victory "at least very strange.
    1. Gost2012 23 March 2020 16: 14 New
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      .... It’s even funnier to dream about how we will “command” pagan ami and no less pagan others ....

      You definitely won’t.
  • 123456789 23 March 2020 20: 17 New
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    There will be new rules after all.

    There will be no rules - there will be a new oil price! And she already is, and she is for a long time.
    1. 123456789 25 March 2020 13: 13 New
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      "Oil Armageddon": reasons and results.
  • honest people 23 March 2020 20: 19 New
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    That is, in your opinion, it was all meant to be enriched by the damned Sechin and not in the interests of the Russian Federation? Maybe it's time to turn on the brains and understand that the Russian Federation is trying to remove from all markets, including the oil one, and what the leadership of the Russian Federation responded to, including the damned Sechin, this is our defensive reaction.

  • NordUral 23 March 2020 20: 44 New
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    Forbes columnist Ellen R. Wald believes that the experience of President Vladimir Putin and the head of the Ministry of Energy Alexander Novak in making difficult decisions in the oil market will play a role in Russia's victory, but Saudi leaders do not have such experience.

    He joked?
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      He joked?

      This is an expert.ka. And yes, her ideas about the world are quite peculiar. A good example of the crisis of American big media.
  • Dmitry V. 24 March 2020 14: 49 New
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    And this will happen on the initiative of Saudi Arabia, which risks much more than our country.

    Naive reasoning.
    You do not know well the offended monarchs - like the leadership of Russia, which consists entirely of nouveau riche.
  • Wizzzard 28 March 2020 20: 45 New
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    we know their attitude towards Putin sechina

    I praise for courage (if, of course, there is no typo in the training manual): both cartridges in one clip! And from a small letter, first names and surnames are also hot to approvers. It remains to understand the main thing, about which both the article and the entire tape:
    Okay, show off daily thing flaring also (in the country of the victorious "chanson") - but who will pay the bills? Vova, Igor's or immortal Vasya Pupkin (i.e. we are with you)?
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    what cunning people. these lines suddenly recalled: “At first the amateurs, and the first among them, the one-eyed, were horrified. The treachery of the grandmaster was undoubted.

    With extraordinary ease and unconditionally mocking at heart over the backward lovers of the city of Vasyuki, the grandmaster sacrificed pawns, heavy and light pieces to the right and left. The charmed brunette at the lecture, he sacrificed even the queen. The brunette was terrified and wanted to give up immediately, but only with a terrible effort of will he forced himself to continue the game. "