Five of the eight pledged APRK "Borey" will be sent to the Pacific Fleet

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There was evidence that the command of the Russian Navy had decided to transfer nuclear submarines of project 955 Borey to the Pacific Fleet. We are talking about five fourth-generation submarine missile carriers, which are among the eight previously laid down for construction.

The newspaper reports on the transfer of Boreev to the Far East in its article "News". According to the publication, submarines will be transferred to the Pacific Fleet base on the Kamchatka Peninsula.



Such measures are being taken to strengthen the power of the Pacific fleet Russian Federation, as well as the restoration of the underwater nuclear arsenal, which after the collapse of the Soviet Union was largely lost.

To date, the Russian Navy Pacific Fleet has two submarines of project 955 Borey. These are the nuclear submarines "Alexander Nevsky" and "Vladimir Monomakh", the base of which is Vilyuchinsk. These submarines were transferred to Pacific submariners in 2013 and 2014, respectively.

With the transfer of an additional five nuclear missile carriers to the Russian Navy Pacific Fleet, its submarine nuclear potential will be significantly increased and may turn out to be almost equal to the corresponding potential of the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy.
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    1. -4
      23 March 2020 06: 24
      This is the right decision. Let Japan scratch turnips. She is now the Navy for shock capabilities is very impressive.
      1. +10
        23 March 2020 06: 28
        what does Japan have to do with it
        1. -5
          23 March 2020 06: 31
          Despite the fact that in Japan they can also be applied
          1. +9
            23 March 2020 08: 49
            Quote: avia12005
            Despite the fact that in Japan they can also be applied

            Shoot from long-range guns at a neighboring yard?
        2. -1
          23 March 2020 09: 48
          Quote: Tlauicol
          what does Japan have to do with it

          Despite the fact that the Japanese fleet now exceeds in power not only the Pacific Fleet, but, most likely, the entire Russian Navy. There are only modern destroyers under 40 units. And also landing ships of this class, which we have not even learned to build, a bunch of patrol boats, and modern submarines. Though not atomic, but their "motors" are such that we will not have such for another thirty years.
          And Japan is right there. A few hundred kilometers from my house.
          1. +2
            24 March 2020 13: 36
            I wonder why you put the cons? Unfortunately, our Pacific Fleet, if we exclude the nuclear component, loses to many in its region. If we take into account that the Pacific Ocean’s area of ​​responsibility is two oceans, the situation is even more alarming. Although there are progress towards improvement, we will hope for progressive movement.
      2. +3
        23 March 2020 06: 29
        It's not just about Japan. And what about the Pacific Fleet of the United States, which spins in this region and is significant in number (including aircraft carriers)? This decision is of course welcome.
        1. +2
          23 March 2020 06: 33
          what does the aircraft carrier have to do with it
          1. -4
            23 March 2020 06: 45
            Firstly, I responded to the comment of avia12005 by drawing his attention to the fact that he forgot to mention the American fleet in this region. Secondly, speaking about the number, I emphasized that it is significant including and aircraft carriers. Any questions?
            1. +10
              23 March 2020 07: 11
              Quote: rotmistr60
              Any questions?

              There is. Do you really think that Northwind is against the ships?
            2. +4
              23 March 2020 12: 13
              Strategists are designed to strike the mbr on the territory of the enemy, and not on his ships. Strategists just have to hide and protect from foreign ships.
      3. +16
        23 March 2020 06: 30
        If the "strategist" is not going to hunt for ships and boats, this is the prerogative of the multi-stage, and the strategist should not get caught, but launch and hit.
        1. -5
          23 March 2020 06: 34

          With the transfer of an additional five nuclear missile carriers to the Russian Navy Pacific Fleet, its submarine nuclear potential will be significantly increased and may turn out to be almost equal to the corresponding potential of the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy.
          question: how many years will it take?
      4. mvg
        +1
        23 March 2020 07: 03
        Let Japan scratch turnips

        Another hooray, can tell you how to shoot with Pacific Fleet SLBMs in Japan? Well, at least approximately? Or just what thread to write? Lord, that's crazy
        1. +1
          23 March 2020 07: 14
          can tell you how to shoot with the SLBM submarines in Japan? Well, at least approximately?

          About 1.1-1.15 revolutions around the earth and flew by. fellow
          1. +2
            23 March 2020 08: 15
            Well, if you think remotely, then it’s clear. I explain: the Japanese Navy always has the task of acting together with the US Navy to find and track our SSBNs in the Pacific. That is, their forces and means are distracted by this task, which logically facilitates the actions of other forces and means of Pacific Fleet. Now it is clear? And I didn’t say a word about the strike on Japan)
            1. 0
              23 March 2020 09: 30
              Quote: avia12005
              And I didn’t say a word about the strike on Japan)

              Then how to understand this?
              in Japan they can also be applied
              1. +1
                24 March 2020 08: 08
                To understand this: they can, does not mean that this is their main goal and they will be applied when they are at the pier) That is, can be used while in positional areas. For example, at the North Pole. Or somewhere in the Indian Ocean.
        2. +2
          23 March 2020 07: 23
          You can take a ram!
          1. +1
            23 March 2020 10: 50
            Gored Aircraft Carrier? belay
            1. +5
              23 March 2020 10: 52
              yes to Japan right away!
              1. +1
                23 March 2020 10: 57
                I'm already scared for Japan. bully
                1. +6
                  23 March 2020 11: 04
                  I do not mind them!
                  1. +1
                    23 March 2020 11: 30
                    Fire !
                    Battering ram is a heroic deed. This is not an aircraft carrier beacon, it will be more abruptly "Faust".
            2. +1
              23 March 2020 17: 10
              Quote: bayard
              Gored Aircraft Carrier?
              Vitaly, are you so merciless ?! bully This is not humane ... what
              1. +1
                24 March 2020 00: 04
                Himself shocked by such brutal initiatives ... feel
                But the comrade proposes more radical measures - to gore Japan itself and not waste time on trifles! And this is not devoid of practical sense - for this to dispatch an old diesel engine with good batteries, put on board a warhead from Poseidon, overlay it (warhead) with uranium 238 (from dumps) and cans with Lithium-3 ... call it all "Hyper -Poseidon "and send in automatic mode to butt Japan Mother. fellow To ram !!! as bequeathed to Roman 66. bully angry Yes
                Gad to dust!
                "Why do we need this Japan if she doesn't like Russia?" soldier
                And you regretted the aircraft carrier ... request
                Roman of all Japan is not sorry - he is a generous man! drinks
                1. -1
                  24 March 2020 00: 29
                  Quote: bayard
                  And you regretted the aircraft carrier ...
                  Oh yes. Of course I repent incessantly. feel , I didn't know what would be offered below, submariners as in a shooting range, and in the role of "lambs" ... what sad
                  1. +1
                    24 March 2020 01: 20
                    So we agreed on an aircraft carrier. wink drinks
                    After all, why is a novel rushing to ram?
                    Gastello’s feat does not give him peace. But the goal is worthwhile.
                    As we find - release the Kraken. Yes
                    A divers must be protected.
            3. 0
              24 March 2020 13: 38
              Yes))) This has already happened.
          2. +1
            24 March 2020 17: 06
            Quote: novel xnumx
            You can take a ram!

            Then our ships will run out even faster.
        3. +1
          23 March 2020 11: 42
          A bullet in Japan is not necessary.
          The more SSBNs will be - the more difficult it will be to track them, the more forces and means of the same Japan will be involved in this. Therefore, they still have to scratch their turnips
          1. 0
            23 March 2020 17: 44
            Quote: Alexy
            The more SSBNs will be, the more difficult it will be to track them,
            without MCAPL at the Pacific Fleet ?! ...
            Quote: Alexy
            more forces and means of the same Japan will be involved in this.
            is it like a target in TIR, to get a job ?! Would you become ?!
      5. 0
        23 March 2020 20: 23
        In the Japanese fleet of shock weapons, only Harpoon anti-ship missiles and locally-produced anti-ship missiles are all their strike weapons.
    2. +3
      23 March 2020 06: 46
      The most important thing is to provide the SSBN with a quiet and safe exit from Yelizovo into the ocean.
      A bottleneck near which their submarines constantly graze.
      Today, in fact, there is nothing, or rather, it is very difficult to ensure the free exit of our boats.
      Mina man, of course, is ambiguous, but it makes you think.
      1. -1
        23 March 2020 07: 00
        Quote: Victor_B
        Mina man, of course, is ambiguous, but it makes you think.

        I forgot to insert the link ...
        https://mina030.livejournal.com/20459.html
        Well, to shoot intercontinental missiles from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk across Japan, it's just too close.
        1. -1
          24 March 2020 08: 27
          Quote: Victor_B
          Well, to shoot intercontinental missiles from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk across Japan, it's just too close.

          Here, some who offer such a blow, in response to objections, justify themselves by saying that you can drive a boat from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk somewhere into the Arctic or the Indian Ocean, and from there crash into samurai. lol
      2. 0
        23 March 2020 20: 25
        They have the NK package in service - they will beat off the torpedoes and within two minutes in case of an attack all the missiles will be launched.
    3. +1
      23 March 2020 07: 10
      The series would be expanded in the future to 10 submarines. ..
      1. +1
        23 March 2020 09: 52
        Quote: Thrifty
        The series would be expanded in the future to 10 submarines. ..

        It is thought that in the future the Boreas will be built as carriers of cruise missiles. After all, Anteyev’s term is running out.
        1. 0
          24 March 2020 00: 33
          Quote: Gritsa
          After all, Anteyev’s term is running out.

          With modernization, the terms are doubled. Yes
      2. +2
        23 March 2020 10: 55
        The decision has already been made - by 8 already ordered, 2 more are ordered.
        And from 2 to 4 "Boreev-K" in the version of the carriers of the KR ("Caliber", "Caliber-M", "Zircon") - up to 112 KR, 7 pcs. in 16 launchers.
    4. +12
      23 March 2020 07: 17
      As for me, a very controversial decision. Think for yourself - we are deploying SSBNs where they have practically no cover at all, and all entrances and exits are under the tireless control of potential "partners". And if in the North our submarines have at least some chances to go out under the ice to the operational space, remaining unnoticed by means of active and passive surveillance, then at the Pacific Fleet with its "Wasp's Nest" advertised on the Zvezda this is not possible in principle. In addition, if the Americans happened to land a landing on Kamchatka, it would be unrealistic to repulse it, because for this we have neither a fleet, nor ground communications, nor an airfield network (for example, for the Airborne Forces) of the required scale. Kamchatka will not be able to get supplies by land either, nor will it be reinforced by land. In fact, this is an isolated region, which is simply impossible to defend in case of war. And there we plan to place the lion's share of our underwater nuclear arsenal ... Well, well.
      1. +3
        23 March 2020 08: 28
        "In addition, if the Americans happened to land a landing on Kamchatka" - during the Crimean War in the 19th century, the interventionists already tried to do this, suffered a fiasco, it is well described by Borschagovsky in the book "Russian Flag" the Japanese tried to get the identity in the Russo-Japanese war, do you think the Americans will have a different story with the capture of Kamchatka?
        1. +2
          23 March 2020 10: 27
          failed

          Fiasco? Interventionists? Are you confusing anything? Actually, the interventionists won this war, Russia then abandoned all its expansionist plans, and then diplomacy saved it from losing territories.
          1. 0
            23 March 2020 15: 49
            My comment is about Kamchatka and the events there, and not about the Crimean War and its results
            1. 0
              23 March 2020 21: 23
              I already understood from Nikolay’s explanation.
              It seems to me that there are not many chances for such a development of events, because their capabilities in that region have grown significantly.
        2. +1
          23 March 2020 13: 57
          Quote: CommanderDIVA
          during the Crimean War in the 19th century, the interventionists already tried to do this, failed

          Tactically - yes, the failure of the interventionists, the first landing was repelled.
          Strategically, the Anglo-French won, for in the spring of 1855 Russia was forced to leave Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. The squadron left, the population was evacuated (with the exception of Cossacks and locals), the houses were dismantled, the materials were partially hidden, partially burned. And the Anglo-French squadron that arrived for the second landing did not find either the enemy or the city.
      2. +2
        23 March 2020 09: 57
        Quote: Dante
        In fact, this is an isolated region, which in case of war is simply impossible to protect.

        Unfortunately, nature and geography left us no choice. for example, Magadan is good for everyone for a quick exit to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. But hefty freezes quickly and hard. And in terms of logistics, it is also not very far from Kamchatka. About logistics and infrastructure in the Kuril Islands generally keep quiet. All convenient basing places in Primorye (Vladivostok, Fokino, Pavlovsk, Olga) and Sov. The harbor is tightly blocked by straits under the control of Japan.
      3. -1
        23 March 2020 11: 45
        You are probably, at least, the deputy commander in chief of the Navy
        1. +2
          23 March 2020 14: 02
          Quote: Alexy
          You are probably, at least, the deputy commander in chief of the Navy

          In order to understand the danger of basing in Vilyuchinsk, one does not need to hold a high post. It is enough to look at the naval forces of the Pacific Fleet in open sources. One combat-ready multi-purpose submarine. Zero modern TSH. And IPC times dear Michal Sergeich.
          Covering five SSBNs with one SSBN is a task worthy of self-knowledge. Especially when you consider that SSNS are also needed to cover the "loaves".
      4. -1
        23 March 2020 12: 14
        In the north, ice still needs to be reached. There, unfortunately, everything is not rosy. I know not by hearsay.
      5. -1
        23 March 2020 20: 34
        You do not forget that in Kamchatka there is a regiment of MiG 31 interceptors, another with Daggers is formed in the Khabarovsk Territory, similarly there are Bastions along with Tu 22M3, as well as several C 300 and C 400 divisions and other air defense systems - you can see the enemy’s landing without large already will not be able to land losses. Boreev has anti-torpedo protection. The NK package also includes sonar response complexes.
        1. +2
          24 March 2020 05: 39
          Quote: Vadim237
          besides this there are Bastions,

          Several Bastion vehicles on one Kuril Island will not make the difference. On the good, "Bastions" and "Balls" should be placed along the entire chain of the Kuriles from Shikotan to Kamchatka, overlapping the affected areas. Then the NK will no longer stick around.
    5. +2
      23 March 2020 07: 44
      Something tells me that this is just some kind of stuffing. Until the Boreas will be ready for a lot of time. The situation can change several times to the exact opposite, and then they will certainly decide where to base them. In the meantime, you can also draw a shadow on the shadow so that the probable enemy would not be bored
    6. +5
      23 March 2020 08: 04
      5 out of 8 boats is good, but who will lead them out of the bay? We do not have a single new surface ship in Kamchatka: MPK, Corvette, Frigate. About ships of the first rank in general, you can not stutter. From the diesel-electric submarine there was one connection left, and something else on the go from the old IPC. The only good news is that they are modernizing and sending anti-submarine Ilys to us, they often fly now, and there are still TU-142. Even last year, the corvette, pr. 20380, was supposed to come, but as it got stuck in the city of Vladik, it was probably there until then.
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    7. +2
      23 March 2020 08: 23
      Quote: Dante
      In addition, if the Americans happened to land in Kamchatka ... And there we plan to place the lion's share of our underwater nuclear arsenal ..

      Is it from the section "laugh" or "be treated"? fool
    8. -1
      23 March 2020 09: 01
      Well, let's throw it over. But is basing, inter-passage repair, docking provided? Where will the ships undergo average repairs? To go to Severodvinsk again? These issues must be addressed now.
      1. 0
        23 March 2020 09: 39
        Quote: mik193
        Where will the ships undergo average repairs? To go to Severodvinsk again?

        Why not go? Is he produced every month? After all, we drive airplanes to repair factories through half the country.
        1. +2
          23 March 2020 14: 19
          Quote: Piramidon
          Why not go? Is he produced every month? After all, we drive airplanes to repair factories through half the country.

          Yeah ... four and a half thousand miles from the base at the shipyard. And the same amount - back. Moreover, along the Northern Sea Route.
      2. +1
        24 March 2020 05: 49
        Quote: mik193
        Where will the ships undergo average repairs? To go to Severodvinsk again?

        But what, Big Stone is no longer quoted?
    9. +2
      23 March 2020 09: 39
      With the transfer of an additional five nuclear missile carriers to the Russian Navy Pacific Fleet, its submarine nuclear potential will be significantly increased and may turn out to be almost equal to the corresponding potential of the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy.

      Everything about the case.
      There was such a joke (if I didn’t mix anything up):
      SF - The Navy itself.
      TF - Also the Fleet.
      CF - Like a Fleet.
      Black Sea Fleet - Chi Fleet, Chi Not a Fleet ...
      Sincerely glad that the situation is improving
      1. 0
        23 March 2020 14: 19
        Forgot about BF - Former Fleet. smile
        1. 0
          23 March 2020 15: 18
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Forgot about BF - Former Fleet. smile

          Yes, call me ... hi
      2. -1
        23 March 2020 18: 09
        SF - Modern Fleet
    10. 0
      23 March 2020 09: 49
      Good headline. Well I thought it was laid in the pawnshop to the Gref
    11. 0
      23 March 2020 10: 34
      And it will not be necessary to break into the Atlantic past the Norwegians. They muddy the base there for anti-submarine aircraft. From Russia with love. And the flight time to the adversary will be greatly reduced ... am
      1. 0
        23 March 2020 11: 03
        But immediately at the exit from the base will meet the multipurpose submarine of the US Navy ...
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    12. +2
      23 March 2020 11: 08
      In the event of an attack on Russia, will our submarines be able to launch all SLBMs from the pier?
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        1. +1
          23 March 2020 15: 47
          Indeed, from the pier the submarine simply does not have time to shoot.

          But I hope that the transfer of "Boreyev" to Vilyuchinsk will not be carried out next week and not simultaneously.
          Firstly, it is necessary to restore the home base. Even if the old piers allow the mooring of new types of submarines, but it is necessary to update the infrastructure. This is the supply and removal of water, energy (although the nuclear submarines are usually fine with it), the cargo delivery system, cranes, etc., which have not been used for years.
          Secondly, it is necessary to strengthen the escort of the Boreyevs to the alert areas. Each Borei requires at least one attack or multipurpose nuclear submarine. And in the Russian Navy there is only one "Ash" and one updated "Pike-B". Due to poverty, you can send old Pikes for escort. But in a real underwater conflict, this is unlikely to be an effective solution. Moreover, the Americans now have 11 multipurpose nuclear submarines for each Borei. In addition, Japan has 12 Soryu, which, as recent practice has shown, is quite capable of keeping watch for our ships at the entrance to Avacha Bay.
          It remains to be hoped that the transfer of the Boreyevs to Vilyuchinsk will be simultaneously accompanied by the transfer of new Ash trees to the Fleet, with their basing also in Vilyuchinsk.
          1. +1
            23 March 2020 17: 14
            On March 5, 2020, in Kobe, Japan, at the Kobe Shipyard & Machinery Works of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, a solemn ceremony was held for the commissioning of the Japanese Naval Self-Defense Forces of the SS 511 Oryu non-nuclear submarine built there (the 11th in the Soryu type series), which became the world's first combat diesel-electric submarine equipped with lithium-ion batteries.

            https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3955894.html
          2. -1
            23 March 2020 20: 14
            they (boreev) still need to be built. Rakhmanov said that the task of Sevmash in 2020. give the fleet 4 submarines. Kazan with the Prince. Maybe Vladimir, but on the account of two more - from the realm of fantasy. Topof replenishment will be very protracted.
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    15. 0
      23 March 2020 22: 17
      Comrades, submariners, maybe leave the Borey in the White Sea for the winter? Experience in walking "Sharks" along the route Severodvinsk-Kandalaksha Bay-Solovki-Pertominsk-Chapoma-Kandalaksha Bay, and so several dozen times under the ice of the White Sea. Or missile defense systems of partners in Europe at the start of "Bulava" easily splash down?
    16. 0
      26 March 2020 20: 36
      Quote: Tests
      Comrades, submariners, maybe leave the Borey in the White Sea for the winter? Experience in walking "Sharks" along the route Severodvinsk-Kandalaksha Bay-Solovki-Pertominsk-Chapoma-Kandalaksha Bay, and so several dozen times under the ice of the White Sea. Or missile defense systems of partners in Europe at the start of "Bulava" easily splash down?

      The Americans learned to find our boats everywhere: in the ocean and under the ice ...

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