Five of the eight pledged APRK "Borey" will be sent to the Pacific Fleet


There was evidence that the command of the Russian Navy had decided to transfer nuclear submarines of project 955 Borey to the Pacific Fleet. We are talking about five fourth-generation submarine missile carriers, which are among the eight previously laid down for construction.


The newspaper reports on the transfer of Boreev to the Far East in its article "News". According to the publication, submarines will be transferred to the Pacific Fleet base on the Kamchatka Peninsula.

Such measures are being taken to strengthen the power of the Pacific fleet Russian Federation, as well as the restoration of the underwater nuclear arsenal, which after the collapse of the Soviet Union was largely lost.

To date, the Russian Navy Pacific Fleet has two submarines of project 955 Borey. These are the nuclear submarines "Alexander Nevsky" and "Vladimir Monomakh", the base of which is Vilyuchinsk. These submarines were transferred to Pacific submariners in 2013 and 2014, respectively.

With the transfer of an additional five nuclear missile carriers to the Russian Navy Pacific Fleet, its submarine nuclear potential will be significantly increased and may turn out to be almost equal to the corresponding potential of the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy.
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  1. avia12005 23 March 2020 06: 24 New
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    This is the right decision. Let Japan scratch turnips. She is now the Navy for shock capabilities is very impressive.
    1. tlauicol 23 March 2020 06: 28 New
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      what does Japan have to do with it
      1. avia12005 23 March 2020 06: 31 New
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        Despite the fact that in Japan they can also be applied
        1. Piramidon 23 March 2020 08: 49 New
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          Quote: avia12005
          Despite the fact that in Japan they can also be applied

          Shoot from long-range guns at a neighboring yard?
      2. Grits 23 March 2020 09: 48 New
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        Quote: Tlauicol
        what does Japan have to do with it

        Despite the fact that the Japanese fleet now in its power exceeds not only Pacific Fleet, but also, most likely, the entire Russian Navy. There are only modern destroyers under 40 units. And also landing ships of this class, which we did not even learn how to build, a bunch of watchdogs, and modern submarines. Though not atomic, they have such “motors” that we still do not have such thirty years.
        And Japan is right there. A few hundred kilometers from my house.
        1. akribos 24 March 2020 13: 36 New
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          I wonder why you put the cons? Unfortunately, our Pacific Fleet, if we exclude the nuclear component, loses to many in its region. If we take into account that the Pacific Ocean’s area of ​​responsibility is two oceans, the situation is even more alarming. Although there are progress towards improvement, we will hope for progressive movement.
    2. rotmistr60 23 March 2020 06: 29 New
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      It's not just about Japan. And what about the Pacific Fleet of the United States, which spins in this region and is significant in number (including aircraft carriers)? This decision is of course welcome.
      1. tlauicol 23 March 2020 06: 33 New
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        what does the aircraft carrier have to do with it
        1. rotmistr60 23 March 2020 06: 45 New
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          Firstly, I responded to the comment of avia12005 by drawing his attention to the fact that he forgot to mention the American fleet in this region. Secondly, speaking about the number, I emphasized that it is significant including and aircraft carriers. Any questions?
          1. tlauicol 23 March 2020 07: 11 New
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            Quote: rotmistr60
            Any questions?

            There is. Do you really think that Northwind is against the ships?
          2. g1v2 23 March 2020 12: 13 New
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            Strategists are designed to strike the mbr on the territory of the enemy, and not on his ships. Strategists just have to hide and protect from foreign ships.
    3. Sailor 23 March 2020 06: 30 New
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      But the “strategist” is not going to hunt for ships and boats, this is the prerogative of multi-trial ones, and the strategist should not get caught but start and get.
      1. Aerodrome 23 March 2020 06: 34 New
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        With the transfer of an additional five nuclear missile carriers to the Russian Navy Pacific Fleet, its submarine nuclear potential will be significantly increased and may turn out to be almost equal to the corresponding potential of the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy.
        question: how many years will it take?
    4. mvg
      mvg 23 March 2020 07: 03 New
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      Let Japan scratch turnips

      Another hooray, can tell you how to shoot with Pacific Fleet SLBMs in Japan? Well, at least approximately? Or just what thread to write? Lord, that's crazy
      1. Amateur 23 March 2020 07: 14 New
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        can tell you how to shoot with the SLBM submarines in Japan? Well, at least approximately?

        About 1.1-1.15 revolutions around the earth and flew by. fellow
        1. avia12005 23 March 2020 08: 15 New
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          Well, if you think remotely, then it’s clear. I explain: the Japanese Navy always has the task of acting together with the US Navy to find and track our SSBNs in the Pacific. That is, their forces and means are distracted by this task, which logically facilitates the actions of other forces and means of Pacific Fleet. Now it is clear? And I didn’t say a word about the strike on Japan)
          1. Piramidon 23 March 2020 09: 30 New
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            Quote: avia12005
            And I didn’t say a word about the strike on Japan)

            Then how to understand this?
            in Japan they can also be applied
            1. avia12005 24 March 2020 08: 08 New
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              To understand this: they can, does not mean that this is their main goal and they will be applied when they are at the pier) That is, can be used while in positional areas. For example, at the North Pole. Or somewhere in the Indian Ocean.
      2. novel66 23 March 2020 07: 23 New
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        You can take a ram!
        1. bayard 23 March 2020 10: 50 New
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          Gored Aircraft Carrier? belay
          1. novel66 23 March 2020 10: 52 New
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            yes to Japan right away!
            1. bayard 23 March 2020 10: 57 New
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              I'm already scared for Japan. bully
              1. novel66 23 March 2020 11: 04 New
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                I do not mind them!
                1. bayard 23 March 2020 11: 30 New
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                  Fire !
                  Ram is a heroic affair. This is not a lighthouse aircraft carrier, it will abruptly "Faust" will be.
          2. Nemchinov Vl 23 March 2020 17: 10 New
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            Quote: bayard
            Gored Aircraft Carrier?
            Vitaly, are you so merciless ?! bully This is not humane ... what
            1. bayard 24 March 2020 00: 04 New
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              Himself shocked by such brutal initiatives ... repeat
              But the comrade offers more radical measures - to gouge Japan itself and not to trifle! And this is not without practical meaning - to detach an old diesel engine with good batteries, put on board the warhead from Poseidon, overlay it (warhead) with uranium 238 (from dumps) and cans with lithium-3 ... call it all "Hyper -Poseidon "and automatically send butting to Japan Mother. fellow To ram !!! as bequeathed to Roman 66. bully angry yes
              Gad to dust!
              "Why do we need this Japan if it does not like Russia?" soldier
              And you regretted the aircraft carrier ... request
              Roman of all Japan is not sorry - he is a generous man! drinks
              1. Nemchinov Vl 24 March 2020 00: 29 New
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                Quote: bayard
                And you regretted the aircraft carrier ...
                Oh yes. Of course I repent incessantly. repeat , I didn’t know what they would offer below, submariners as in a shooting gallery, and in the role - “lambs” ... what sad
                1. bayard 24 March 2020 01: 20 New
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                  So we agreed on an aircraft carrier. wink drinks
                  After all, why is a novel rushing to ram?
                  Gastello’s feat does not give him peace. But the goal is worthwhile.
                  As we find - release the Kraken. yes
                  A divers must be protected.
          3. akribos 24 March 2020 13: 38 New
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            Yes))) This has already happened.
        2. Grits 24 March 2020 17: 06 New
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          Quote: novel xnumx
          You can take a ram!

          Then our ships will run out even faster.
      3. Alexy 23 March 2020 11: 42 New
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        A bullet in Japan is not necessary.
        The more SSBNs will be - the more difficult it will be to track them, the more forces and means of the same Japan will be involved in this. Therefore, they still have to scratch their turnips
        1. Nemchinov Vl 23 March 2020 17: 44 New
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          Quote: Alexy
          The more SSBNs will be, the more difficult it will be to track them,
          without MCAPL at the Pacific Fleet ?! ...
          Quote: Alexy
          more forces and means of the same Japan will be involved in this.
          is it like a target in TIR, to get a job ?! Would you become ?!
    5. Vadim237 23 March 2020 20: 23 New
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      In the Japanese fleet of shock weapons, only Harpoon anti-ship missiles and locally-produced anti-ship missiles are all their strike weapons.
  2. Victor_B 23 March 2020 06: 46 New
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    The most important thing is to provide the SSBN with a quiet and safe exit from Yelizovo into the ocean.
    A bottleneck near which their submarines constantly graze.
    Today, in fact, there is nothing, or rather, it is very difficult to ensure the free exit of our boats.
    Mina man, of course, is ambiguous, but it makes you think.
    1. Victor_B 23 March 2020 07: 00 New
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      Quote: Victor_B
      Mina man, of course, is ambiguous, but it makes you think.

      I forgot to insert the link ...
      https://mina030.livejournal.com/20459.html
      Well, to shoot intercontinental missiles from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk across Japan, it's just too close.
      1. Piramidon 24 March 2020 08: 27 New
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        Quote: Victor_B
        Well, to shoot intercontinental missiles from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk across Japan, it's just too close.

        Here, some who offer such a blow, in response to objections, justify themselves by saying that you can drive a boat from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk somewhere into the Arctic or the Indian Ocean, and from there crash into samurai. lol
    2. Vadim237 23 March 2020 20: 25 New
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      They have the NK package in service - they will beat off the torpedoes and within two minutes in case of an attack all the missiles will be launched.
  3. Thrifty 23 March 2020 07: 10 New
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    The series would be expanded in the future to 10 submarines. ..
    1. Grits 23 March 2020 09: 52 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      The series would be expanded in the future to 10 submarines. ..

      It is thought that in the future the Boreas will be built as carriers of cruise missiles. After all, Anteyev’s term is running out.
      1. Paranoid50 24 March 2020 00: 33 New
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        Quote: Gritsa
        After all, Anteyev’s term is running out.

        With modernization, the terms are doubled. yes
    2. bayard 23 March 2020 10: 55 New
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      The decision has already been made - by 8 already ordered, 2 more are ordered.
      And from 2 to 4 "Boreev-K" in the form of carriers of the Kyrgyz Republic ("Caliber", "Caliber-M", "Zircon") - up to 112 KR, 7 each. in 16 starting glasses.
  4. Dante Alighieri 23 March 2020 07: 17 New
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    To me, a very controversial decision. Think for yourself - we are deploying the SSBN where they have virtually no cover whatsoever, and all the inputs and outputs are under the tireless control of probable "partners". And if in the North our submarines have at least some chances to go under the ice to the operational space, undetected by active and passive surveillance, then at the Pacific Fleet with its "Wasp Nest" advertised for the Star, this is not possible in principle. In addition, if the Americans were to land an assault in Kamchatka, it would be unrealistic to repulse it, because for this we have neither the fleet, nor ground communications, nor the airfield network (for example, for the airborne forces) of the required scale. Kamchatka’s land supply also cannot be obtained, nor land reinforcements either. In fact, this is an isolated region, which in case of war is simply impossible to protect. And there we plan to place the lion's share of our submarine nuclear arsenal ... Well, well.
    1. CommanderDIVA 23 March 2020 08: 28 New
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      "In addition, if the Americans happened to land troops in Kamchatka" - during the Crimean War in the 19th century, the interventionists already tried to do it, failed, it is well described by Borshchagovsky in the book "Russian Flag", Kamchadali militias and the local garrison piled on the British and French, the Japanese tried in the Russo-Japanese war, they got the identity too, do you think the Americans will have a different story with the capture of Kamchatka?
      1. alexmach 23 March 2020 10: 27 New
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        failed

        Fiasco? Interventionists? Are you confusing anything? Actually, the interventionists won this war, Russia then abandoned all its expansionist plans, and then diplomacy saved it from losing territories.
        1. CommanderDIVA 23 March 2020 15: 49 New
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          My comment is about Kamchatka and the events there, and not about the Crimean War and its results
          1. alexmach 23 March 2020 21: 23 New
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            I already understood from Nikolay’s explanation.
            It seems to me that there are not many chances for such a development of events, because their capabilities in that region have grown significantly.
      2. Alexey RA 23 March 2020 13: 57 New
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        Quote: CommanderDIVA
        during the Crimean War in the 19th century, the interventionists already tried to do this, failed

        Tactically - yes, the failure of the interventionists, the first landing was repelled.
        Strategically, the Anglo-French won, for in the spring of 1855 Russia was forced to leave Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. The squadron left, the population was evacuated (with the exception of Cossacks and locals), the houses were dismantled, the materials were partially hidden, partially burned. And the Anglo-French squadron that arrived for the second landing did not find either the enemy or the city.
    2. Grits 23 March 2020 09: 57 New
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      Quote: Dante
      In fact, this is an isolated region, which in case of war is simply impossible to protect.

      Unfortunately, nature and geography left us no choice. for example, Magadan is good for everyone for a quick exit to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. But hefty freezes quickly and hard. And in terms of logistics, it is also not very far from Kamchatka. About logistics and infrastructure in the Kuril Islands generally keep quiet. All convenient basing places in Primorye (Vladivostok, Fokino, Pavlovsk, Olga) and Sov. The harbor is tightly blocked by straits under the control of Japan.
    3. Alexy 23 March 2020 11: 45 New
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      You are probably, at least, the deputy commander in chief of the Navy
      1. Alexey RA 23 March 2020 14: 02 New
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        Quote: Alexy
        You are probably, at least, the deputy commander in chief of the Navy

        In order to understand the danger of basing in Vilyuchinsk, one does not need to hold a high post. It is enough to look at the naval forces of the Pacific Fleet in open sources. One combat-ready multi-purpose submarine. Zero modern TSH. And IPC times dear Michal Sergeich.
        Covering five SSBNs with one ICAPL is a task worthy of itself. Especially when you consider that the ICAPL is also needed to cover the "loaves".
    4. sanek45744 23 March 2020 12: 14 New
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      In the north, ice still needs to be reached. There, unfortunately, everything is not rosy. I know not by hearsay.
    5. Vadim237 23 March 2020 20: 34 New
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      You do not forget that in Kamchatka there is a regiment of MiG 31 interceptors, another with Daggers is formed in the Khabarovsk Territory, similarly there are Bastions along with Tu 22M3, as well as several C 300 and C 400 divisions and other air defense systems - you can see the enemy’s landing without large already will not be able to land losses. Boreev has anti-torpedo protection. The NK package also includes sonar response complexes.
      1. Grits 24 March 2020 05: 39 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        besides this there are Bastions,

        Several Bastion cars on one Kuril island will not do the weather. For good, the “Bastions” and “Balls” should be placed along the entire Kuril chain from Shikotan to Kamchatka with overlapping zones of destruction. Then NK will no longer turn up.
  5. ZAV69 23 March 2020 07: 44 New
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    Something tells me that this is just some kind of stuffing. Until the Boreas will be ready for a lot of time. The situation can change several times to the exact opposite, and then they will certainly decide where to base them. In the meantime, you can also draw a shadow on the shadow so that the probable enemy would not be bored
  6. jonht 23 March 2020 08: 04 New
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    5 out of 8 boats is good, but who will lead them out of the bay? We do not have a single new surface ship in Kamchatka: MPK, Corvette, Frigate. About ships of the first rank in general, you can not stutter. From the diesel-electric submarine there was one connection left, and something else on the go from the old IPC. The only good news is that they are modernizing and sending anti-submarine Ilys to us, they often fly now, and there are still TU-142. Even last year, the corvette, pr. 20380, was supposed to come, but as it got stuck in the city of Vladik, it was probably there until then.
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  7. Amateur 23 March 2020 08: 23 New
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    Quote: Dante
    In addition, if the Americans happened to land in Kamchatka ... And there we plan to place the lion's share of our underwater nuclear arsenal ..

    Is this from the “laugh” or “cure” section? fool
  8. mik193 23 March 2020 09: 01 New
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    Well, let's throw it over. But is basing, inter-passage repair, docking provided? Where will the ships undergo average repairs? To go to Severodvinsk again? These issues must be addressed now.
    1. Piramidon 23 March 2020 09: 39 New
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      Quote: mik193
      Where will the ships undergo average repairs? To go to Severodvinsk again?

      Why not go? Is he produced every month? After all, we drive airplanes to repair factories through half the country.
      1. Alexey RA 23 March 2020 14: 19 New
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        Quote: Piramidon
        Why not go? Is he produced every month? After all, we drive airplanes to repair factories through half the country.

        Yeah ... four and a half thousand miles from the base at the shipyard. And the same amount - back. Moreover, along the Northern Sea Route.
    2. Grits 24 March 2020 05: 49 New
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      Quote: mik193
      Where will the ships undergo average repairs? To go to Severodvinsk again?

      But what, Big Stone is no longer quoted?
  9. Vasyan1971 23 March 2020 09: 39 New
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    With the transfer of an additional five nuclear missile carriers to the Russian Navy Pacific Fleet, its submarine nuclear potential will be significantly increased and may turn out to be almost equal to the corresponding potential of the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy.

    Everything about the case.
    There was such a joke (if I didn’t mix anything up):
    SF - The Navy itself.
    TF - Also the Fleet.
    CF - Like a Fleet.
    Black Sea Fleet - Chi Fleet, Chi Not a Fleet ...
    Sincerely glad that the situation is improving
    1. Alexey RA 23 March 2020 14: 19 New
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      Forgot about BF - Former Fleet. smile
      1. Vasyan1971 23 March 2020 15: 18 New
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        Quote: Alexey RA
        Forgot about BF - Former Fleet. smile

        Yes, call me ... hi
    2. Piramidon 23 March 2020 18: 09 New
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      SF - Modern Fleet
  10. Old partisan 23 March 2020 09: 49 New
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    Good headline. Well I thought it was laid in the pawnshop to the Gref
  11. Dzafdet 23 March 2020 10: 34 New
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    And it will not be necessary to break into the Atlantic past the Norwegians. They muddy the base there for anti-submarine aircraft. From Russia with love. And the flight time to the adversary will be greatly reduced ... am
    1. mik193 23 March 2020 11: 03 New
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      But immediately at the exit from the base will meet the multipurpose submarine of the US Navy ...
    2. rudolff 23 March 2020 12: 37 New
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      In the Atlantic, the PKK CH do not break through. There the path is closed for a long time. God forbid to run to the edge of the ice.
  12. Peter Tverdokhlebov 23 March 2020 11: 08 New
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    In the event of an attack on Russia, will our submarines be able to launch all SLBMs from the pier?
    1. rudolff 23 March 2020 14: 31 New
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      TTX SLBMs allow. Actually, that’s why the databases rush in the places of basing. But ... is extremely unlikely. In the event of an attack on Russia, the first blow will be inflicted on the bases of the PKK SN. Only those ships that have a BS in the sea have combat stability.
      1. Aleksandr1971 23 March 2020 15: 47 New
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        Indeed, from the pier the submarine simply does not have time to shoot.

        But I hope that the transfer of Boreev to Vilyuchinsk will not be carried out next week and not simultaneously.
        Firstly, it is necessary to restore the home base. Even if the old piers allow the mooring of new types of submarines, but it is necessary to update the infrastructure. This is the supply and removal of water, energy (although the nuclear submarines are usually fine with it), the cargo delivery system, cranes, etc., which have not been used for years.
        Secondly, it is necessary to strengthen the escort of "Boreev" to the areas of combat duty. For every Northwind, at least one strike or multi-purpose submarine is needed. And in the Russian Navy there is only one Ash-tree and one updated Pike-B. Due to poverty, you can send old Pike for escort. But this in a real underwater conflict is unlikely to be an effective solution. Moreover, for every Borey, the Americans now have 11 pieces of multipurpose nuclear submarines. In addition, Japan has 12 pieces of Soryu, which, as recent practice has shown, are quite capable of storing our ships at the entrance to the Avacha Bay.
        It remains to be hoped that the transfer of Boreev to Vilyuchinsk will be simultaneously accompanied by the transfer of new Ashenes to the Fleet with their base also in Vilyuchinsk.
        1. pl675 23 March 2020 17: 14 New
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          On March 5, 2020, in Kobe, Japan, the Kobe Shipyard & Machinery Works of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Corporation hosted a ceremony to launch the Japanese Navy's self-defense forces, the nuclear submarine SS 511 Oryu built there (11th in the Soryu type series), which became the world's first combat diesel-electric submarine equipped with lithium-ion batteries.

          https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3955894.html
        2. tinkle 23 March 2020 20: 14 New
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          they (boreev) still need to be built. Rakhmanov said that the task of Sevmash in 2020. give the fleet 4 submarines. Kazan with the Prince. Maybe Vladimir, but on the account of two more - from the realm of fantasy. Topof replenishment will be very protracted.
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  15. Tests 23 March 2020 22: 17 New
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    Comrades, submariners, and maybe Borea for the winter in the White Sea to leave? The experience of walking the “Sharks" along the route Severodvinsk-Kandalaksha Bay-Solovki-Pertominsk-Chapoma-Kandalaksha Bay and so several dozen times under the ice of the White Sea was. Or missile defense systems of partners in Europe at the start of the “Bulava” are easily brought down?
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    Quote: Tests
    Comrades, submariners, and maybe Borea for the winter in the White Sea to leave? The experience of walking the “Sharks" along the route Severodvinsk-Kandalaksha Bay-Solovki-Pertominsk-Chapoma-Kandalaksha Bay and so several dozen times under the ice of the White Sea was. Or missile defense systems of partners in Europe at the start of the “Bulava” are easily brought down?

    The Americans learned to find our boats everywhere: in the ocean and under the ice ...