Shoot down 4 German aircraft in one gulp: a case of times of the Great Patriotic War

With the use of rockets during the Great Patriotic War RS-82, there are several cases that attract special attention. It's uncontrollable aviation ammunition of 82 mm caliber 600 mm long. Such ammunition was in service with the Soviet Air Force fleet 4 years before the start of the war with the Nazis.

On Sky Artist's dedicated channel stories aviation, tells how the Soviet pilot Lieutenant Semenovich managed to accomplish something incredible. He was able to bring down four enemy fighters at once in one gulp. It may seem fake, but such an amazing episode actually took place in the history of the Great Patriotic War.

The material says that during the war the illustrious ace Pokryshkin had a question for the technicians: Why did Er-Es go away during use. To this he was told that aircraft ammunition is often treated like firewood - when unloaded, it is simply dumped onto the ground.

On many rockets, the stabilizers were bent. Immediately asked not to suspend a single PC with deformation of the stabilizer.

Details of the extremely successful use of the RS-82 by Soviet pilots, including Lieutenant Semenovich, in the Sky Artist video:

Comments

[Victor_B]

In war there are still not such miracles.
It is reliably known about the case of the destruction of a German aircraft by a shot from a MORTAR!

As sergeant Kalinin shot down an enemy Focke-Wulf with a third mortar shot

https://zen.yandex.ru/media/rusblog/kak-serjant-kalinin-tretim-vystrelom-iz-minometa-sbil-vrajeskii-fokkevulf-5bf3cff9740fd500aa0aa8e3

[Romka47]

Or one more thing: the fighters of the Irish Republican Army shot down a British Army helicopter from a makeshift mortar with a gas cylinder (!), And twice (!!!)

[Mikhalych]

In times of "stagnation," he read about a similar goal in 1939 during the operation on Hassan and Khalkhin.

[YOUR]

The first use of the RS-82 was at Khalkhin Gol
“The first combat use of the new missile weapons took place in 1939 on the Khalkhin-Gol River, where the first unit of fighter-missile carriers in the history of aviation successfully operated from August 20 to 31. It consisted of 5 I-16 fighters armed with RS- missiles 82. On August 20, 1939, at 16 p.m., Soviet pilots I. Mikhailenko, S. Pimenov, V. Fedosov and T. Tkachenko, under the command of Captain N. Zvonarev, flew out to fulfill a combat mission to cover the Soviet troops. Over the front line they met with the Japanese fighters. Dir all five simultaneous missile salvo fired from a distance of about a kilometer and shot down two Japanese aircraft. "

[serg.shishkov2015]

I heard about this incident!

[Cowbra]

Marsail guys ... It's beautiful and smart.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Cowbra

Marsail guys ... It's beautiful and smart.

What is this about?

[Cowbra]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: Cowbra

Marsail guys ... It's beautiful and smart.

What is this about?

https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vtoraja_mirovaja_vojna_germanija_khronika/khans_joakhim_marsel_chernaja_ovca_ljuftvaffe_rossija_2018/23-1-0-5129

[Victor_B]

In just one day, September 1, 1942, Hans shot down 17 enemy aircraft

ICHSH all this only with his own words!
The Germans did not need confirmation.
As far as I understand, our ace for this fight no more than 5-6 would be recorded. And even 4-5.
One four-engine aircraft = 4 wins.
For each damaged one more.
Just curious how many of these seventeen fell to the ground?

[novel66]

it’s clear why the Grimm brothers are Germans .... excellent storytellers

[Cowbra]

Quote: novel xnumx

great storytellers

And so?

In August 1942, in North Africa, unit of Lieutenant Vogel, the commander of the fourth group of the 27th fighter squadron, shot down 65 enemy aircraft in a month. Departing on a mission, the German pilots had fun as follows: by shooting ammunition in the sand, they returned to the airfield and reported on their "victories." When they were finally opened, they just disbanded the link, leaving all victories intact.

[Engineer]

Marsail confirmed about 100 victories as a result of post-war checks by English-speaking aviation historians. Due to the fame of the personality and the comparative simplicity of studying documents due to the local theater of operations, this was done a long time ago.
By the way, the percentage of confirmed victories of 50-70 is enough (I would say the most) is often found among the pilots of ALL countries for which verification was carried out according to the documents of the enemy.
And you also successfully scored points and victories

Some serious discrepancies between Allied squadron records and German claims have caused some historians and Allied veterans to question the accuracy of Marseille's official victories, in addition to those of JG 27 as a whole. [118] Attention is often focused on the 26 claims made by JG 27 on 1 September 1942, of which 17 were claimed by Marseille alone. A USAF historian, Major Robert Tate states: "[f] or years, many British historians and militarists refused to admit that they had lost any aircraft that day in North Africa. Careful review of records however do show that the British [and South Africans ] did lose more than 17 aircraft that day, and in the area that Marseille operated. "[219] Tate also reveals 20 RAF single-engined fighters and one twin engined fighter were destroyed and several others severely damaged, as well as a further USAAF P-40 shot down. [28] However, overall Tate reveals that Marseille's kill total comes close to 65–70 percent corroboration, indicating as many as 50 of his claims may not have actually been kills.

[knn54]

- A low-flying German Storch-type aircraft was blown up by a grenade thrown by someone at random from the ground.
- "A. M. Fadin showed heroism and personal courage in the defeat of the enemy’s Korsun-Shevchenkovsky group in February 1944. His only tank, with the support of 30 infantrymen in a night attack, captured the village of Dashukovka and held it for more than five hours until the main brigade’s approach "In this battle (according to the award list), the crew of A. M. Fadin destroyed 1 tank, 1 self-propelled gun, up to 18 enemy machine-gun points, and a German aircraft was shot down from the main gun of the tank, flying low above the ground along telegraph poles."

[Pereira]

1 tank, 1 self-propelled gun, 1 plane - I believe. Up to 18 machine gun points I do not believe. Too high concentration per square. kilometer. It doesn't happen that much.

[RVAPatriot]

Under normal conditions, it doesn’t happen, everything can be in a war ... all the more, the scale there was not small

[Glory1974]

Up to 18 machine gun points I do not believe. Too high concentration per square. kilometer.

one machine gun per squad, 3 per platoon, 9 per company. Total came 2 companies, had 18 machine guns. Nothing unusual. Moreover, the Germans did not have 3 platoons in the company, but in my opinion 5.

[Pereira]

I do not dispute the number of machine guns in the company. But 2 companies cannot, unless they are surrounded, lose all machine guns.

[serg.shishkov2015]

In Pokryshkin’s book * Sky of War * 60s editions 5 * Mackey-200 * unknown pilot on I-16 with a salvo of six RS-82 in a frontal attack

[serg.shishkov2015]

At the pontoon bridge was a column of BM-13. the raid began and everyone stopped. One BM was at the exit from the bridge so that its guides looked up-right to where the Yu-87 dived from, ours couldn’t help but fired a volley! Shot down the Yu-87! Case from Gogolev’s book * Soldier cars *

[alexey alexeyev_2]

I read the following episode in the memoirs of our ace (To shame, I don’t remember the name): the link returned from the mission. There was almost no ammunition. The case was in the north .. There was a single messer going on. I didn’t get in touch with him. Only one young pilot pulled in his direction the last shell. This was his first flight on his own .. This episode was not even reflected in the report .. The next day, confirmation came from the reconnaissance about the downed German. There was a reconnaissance group on the ground at that time, they were looking for the language. The German ciganed with a parachute and warmly landed to our .. Important rank ok out to be ... That something like this

[serg.shishkov2015]

I read it in another version from an eyewitness, in the north 4 * Aero Cobras * Guards Regiment met the Me-109 group in the opposite direction. since the surprise attack didn’t work out, one of ours gave a single shot from a 37 mm cannon — our brand had such a badge to call — either fight or leave! Range 1 km, and the leading * Messer * exploded! There is a victory, but there was no battle! You can’t even find the wreckage! And the consumption of BK 1 shell for four! No victory! Not counted! But there was our reconnaissance group, which reflected that incident in the report! Counted!

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[Gogia]

Quote: Victor_B

The Germans did not need confirmation.
As far as I understand, our ace for this fight no more than 5-6 would be recorded. And even 4-5.
One four-engine aircraft = 4 wins.
For each damaged one more.

Do you understand what you wrote? The Germans had very strict rules for confirming victory. Photo guns were installed on all aircraft. The film appeared, unconditional victory was counted if the enemy plane fell apart in the air. Otherwise, confirmation from ground services and parts. At the expense of large airplanes, there were such rules - we had almost no four-engine, and the victory over the twin-engine was considered to be 1. It is important to understand one thing - the German aces created all the conditions for them to shoot down and shoot down. Hartman had not one plane, but 2. The number of German sorties was 4 times greater than ours. Here it must be said that the percentage of victories for many of our pilots was higher than for the Germans. The only difference is that the Germans created the conditions for their own. Our aces could wait 2 months for a new car on the ground. And according to the percentage of victories, combat flight / victory Pokryshkin is just a beast. And yet - our fighter aces often on and to attack and reconnaissance, etc. distracted, and the Germans set a goal - to bring down as much as possible - at any cost. Americans generally acted differently. He shot down more than 10 enemy aircraft - already ace! Go to school and teach young pilots.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Photo guns were installed on all aircraft. ... this is true, they only worked only during the shooting and after the cessation .... it is understood, rarely when the film manifested itself, airplanes exploded in the air. therefore, it was considered in the Luftwaffe that the result of damage to the enemy’s aircraft was sufficient for crediting points, it can clearly be understood that when things went bad in the Luftwaffe, the growth of victories and, consequently, the points increased sharply for no apparent reason, and then there were unwritten rules, accrual of points in the East front to raise, and an intermediate award was born which was an independent German cross in gold popularly nicknamed the "scrambled eggs"

[Pavel Gusterin]

Very interesting video! Thanks to the nameless author of the note and the author of the video!

[Vladimir SHajkin]

It was, - the medal for the victory in the navy in the time of Peter the Great corresponds to the story told

[Mudrifedor]

Brave tailor! With fear at one stroke of four. However, he does not listen to the elders!

[Mihail2019]

As a child, he read Pokryshkin, "Sky of War." I still remember this episode from Mackey!
And the last name of the technician Pokryshkin, Chuvashkin, I immediately remembered!
Alexander Ivanovich spoke highly of him in his books ..

[Kirill Shishkin]

I never heard such nonsense from beginning to end ... Who writes the texts to them, cook? This set of illiterate phrases causes nothing but laughter ...
I would very much like to find documents for the unknown pilot Semenovich and read how he was awarded for the downed planes ... But there is no name, no date, no place of battle ... Come up too lazy ...

[vitlas]

Read the book of A. Pokryshkin, there this episode is well described.

[vitlas]

This incident was described by A. Pokryshkin in his book Sky of War. But about the bent stabilizers I do not remember whether it was mentioned.