US May Build Oil Alliance with Saudi Arabia

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US May Build Oil Alliance with Saudi Arabia

The United States can create an alliance with Saudi Arabia to regulate world oil prices. With such a proposal, the US Department of Energy addressed the White House administration. It is reported by The Wall Street Journal.

According to the publication, the Department of Energy is trying to convince the White House to form an alliance with Saudi Arabia. In the formation of such an oil alliance, Washington will strengthen ties with Riyadh, and the latter may leave the ranks of OPEC. In addition, this alliance may interfere with the strengthening of ties between Russia and Saudi Arabia.



Supporters of the US oil alliance with Saudi Arabia advocate stabilizing energy prices and preventing their collapse, which occurred after Moscow and Riyadh in early March were unable to agree on oil production.

According to the sources of the publication, the preparation and implementation of the oil alliance will require great efforts and a long period of time, which can take up to several months. But this will happen only if the White House and the US Department of Energy approve this plan, which has not yet been received. They do not know about this plan in Riyadh.

On the eve of US oil companies announced a decrease in oil production in the states due to falling prices. Washington has already blamed Russia for this, saying that Moscow has "unleashed an oil war" with the goal of "forcing American shale oil producers to cut production."
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  1. ABM
    -13
    21 March 2020 15: 59
    what can you do, what do you want?
    1. +25
      21 March 2020 16: 03
      US May Build Oil Alliance with Saudi Arabia

      And I believe that this US oil alliance with CA in fact has long been created - even under Gorbachev - from under the floor has always worked and is working.
      Now the United States will only formalize this alliance with the SA in order to finally lead it from Washington and subordinate the CA to its American leadership.
      1. +12
        21 March 2020 16: 11
        Move to "legal status", however.
        1. +9
          21 March 2020 16: 15
          Quote: knn54
          Move to "legal status", however.

          Exactly! On the LEGAL position, on the one hand, and precisely on the SUBJECT position of Saudi Arabia to the United States of America, on the other hand. So that the Arabs henceforth in no way and never before Washington scammed.
          1. -2
            21 March 2020 16: 19
            So that the Arabs henceforth in no way and never before Washington scammed.

            In fairness, poverty, unlike ordinary Russians, does not threaten them.
            1. +2
              21 March 2020 16: 26
              Quote: lexus
              So that the Arabs henceforth in no way and never before Washington scammed.
              In fairness, poverty, unlike ordinary Russians, does not threaten them.
              Do not forget that Saudi Arabia is a "Rest House" for ISIS residents and a rookery for their "families". By this very circumstance, Washington holds in its hands the regime of the reigning Saudis for their "Faberge". Therefore, the sovereignty of Saudi Arabia and its regime inside the country does not smell.
            2. +2
              21 March 2020 16: 28
              US May Build Oil Alliance with Saudi Arabia

              It would be very strange if this did not happen.
            3. +6
              21 March 2020 17: 55
              Lexus ...In fairness, poverty, unlike ordinary Russians, does not threaten them.

              Guys, on our site he suffers in poverty, lying on the couch and knocking with his last strength on the keys - "an ordinary Russian". It’s a pity, already horror. Go work and feed your family! Whiners have always dragged society by the tail. A normal man will not let his family go to poverty, regardless of the political and economic troubles in the country.
              And all the "scrapes" in the country start from whiners and young idiots paid for by the "freebie". The last example in reality is Ukraine.
              I do not like Russia - who holds it? Now the border is open. Just do not constantly whine!
              What woman would love a whiner ?! Only from without origin, my fate, that I fell in love with the "eagle", but he turned out to be a woodpecker in life, constantly shouting the same thing - "everything is bad, everything is lost, I cannot."
              Excuse me ! Tired of listening to the whining. This is not masculine!
              1. -2
                21 March 2020 18: 12
                Many letters, meaningless. Whiners are your gang of believers in 0. Everywhere you look for the guilty in your "breakthroughs." The rockets fall - the switchman is to blame, the currency collapsed - the Gazdep, the economy on its back with legs spread apart - sanctions, shameful pensions - the old people. Calls to work now always sound from the finger on the finger of the crooks who did not hit the trough
                paid for "freebies"

                Normal man

                This is not about you.
                I do not like Russia - who holds it?

                If you get out of here, Russia will recover and will develop. Download somewhere else.
                The final example in reality is Ukraine.

                You zapotentsy are no better than rag-zapadentsev. You even have the same manuals.
                1. 0
                  21 March 2020 21: 34
                  I’ve already really got it, I don’t like living in Russia, I’ve gone over a hill, with such advisers I’ll break the whole country with nefig, so jump wherever you want, just not in Russia
                2. -4
                  22 March 2020 08: 01
                  Quote: lexus
                  You zapotentsy are no better than rag-zapadentsev. You even have the same manuals.

                  And the worst thing is that there are crowds here. It seems that the sun shines from the Kremlin around the clock. Without going beyond the horizon. The all-consuming joy of the moon-faced seizes the masses.
                  1. 0
                    22 March 2020 12: 28
                    Given the mass awards of the Heroes of Russia, they somehow undeservedly forgot the Main Hero of the last days, Igor Ivanovich Sechin. Given his outstanding contribution to pay not only a salary of a million rubles a day (approximately), but also every day to award him with the title Hero of Russia for life! With the installation of busts everywhere! Please support
            4. +2
              22 March 2020 06: 07
              ZATO DEMOCRACY LIGHT
          2. Dog
            +2
            21 March 2020 18: 08
            Quote: Tatiana
            it is on the SLAVE

            It was originally so.
            It is enough to look at whose territory whose troops are stationed and who teaches whose officers "to love the homeland".
            1. +4
              21 March 2020 18: 16
              Quote: Dog
              Quote: Tatiana
              it is on the SLAVE
              It was originally so.
              Previously, the United States kept the SA on a long leash, but now it’s very short and at its very feet.
      2. -16
        21 March 2020 16: 15
        Quote: Tatiana
        And I believe that this US oil alliance with the SA has, in fact, already been created long ago - even under Gorbachev - and has always been working from under the floor.

        Aramka is many years old and you suddenly saw this. Yes, you’re an expert))) Che is not clear --- we swing in the sand --- we spend in the states. We tried to repeat the same scheme in Venezuela, but Mr. Sechin stumbled by downloading it country guns for a few lards.
        1. -14
          21 March 2020 16: 35
          Mr. Sechin stumbled fluidly

          They all have a habit of "walking" among the people. But there are “lovers” of their “products of activity”. Uryako-galloping.
        2. +7
          21 March 2020 17: 22
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          We tried to repeat the same pattern in Venezuela, but Mr. Sechin stumbled liquidly, pumping guns into this country for several lards.

          Actually, you are in vain trying to attract Sechin here, because in 2019 Venezuela's debt to Russia is about $ 5,5 billion ($ 3,15 billion in public debt and another $ 2,3 billion in debt of the national oil company PDVSA to Rosneft ). For comparison, Chinese investments are $ 70 billion.
          So the weapons were supplied under the state program, and interestingly, it is Venezuela that pays for the delivered weapons. As reported by RIA
          The fact is that Caracas this time slightly delayed the March transfer. In early April, the same Siluanov explained that Venezuelan partners have another month of the so-called grace period (the possibility of paying off with a small delay stipulated in the loan agreement without penalties).

          Venezuela paid this tranche in 2019, and Sechin is not tied to it sideways here. Well, if you consider that we carefully hide the cost of our weapons, as well as the selling price, then I think that if the price ratio is 1: 1,5 (and most likely higher), then we have beaten off our grandmothers for the weapon, and now we are working in plus.
        3. Fat
          +9
          21 March 2020 19: 01
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Mr. Sechin stumbled fluidly, pumping guns into this country for a few lards.

          Take a break, eat twix ..
          Russia will complete the construction of a Kalashnikov assault rifle factory in Venezuela in 2020–2021, Dmitry Shugaev, director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS), told TASS at the International Aviation and Space Salon (MAKS-2019). Earlier, the head of Rostec, Sergei Chemezov, said that the construction is planned to be completed before the end of 2019.
          Rosoboronexport and the Venezuelan Ministry of Defense signed a contract for the construction of an automatic machine manufacturing facility (25 thousand units annually) and a cartridge factory (7,62 mm caliber). The cost of the project was estimated at 1,1 billion rubles.. It was planned to build both plants eight years ago, however, due to problems with contractors in 2014, construction stopped.
        4. -1
          21 March 2020 23: 51
          In my opinion, such a scheme has been implemented in our country for a long time, they pump Yakutia in Siberia and spend it in London, in principle, like all banana-oil diamond kingdoms
      3. -14
        21 March 2020 16: 15
        US oil alliance with CA has long been essentially established

        And we, alas, were eliminated from all alliances in the name of "devaluation / zeroing". No friends, but many ungrateful dependents, like a mangy dog. We will soon be like North Korea, even worse, because Russian capitalism, overweight, has no human face.
        1. -10
          21 March 2020 17: 57
          Quote: lexus
          for Russian capitalism has not gotten a human face.

          And then hto
          1. -9
            21 March 2020 18: 26
            If the Mexicans had Zorro as a national hero, then now, obviously, we have Vorro.
      4. +2
        21 March 2020 16: 21
        Quote: Tatiana
        Now the United States will only formalize this alliance with the SA, so that from Washington they will finally head it and subordinate the CA to its American leadership

        As always, I cannot help but admire the depth of your analyzes.

        good laughing good ... to tears... laughing

        Well, what is this day today? laughing
        1. -8
          21 March 2020 16: 39
          I cannot but admire the depth of your analyzes.

          There is little flair, so you still took and tested my tests. Thanks for work! wink
          1. 0
            21 March 2020 16: 42
            Quote: lexus
            ... you still took tests from me ...

            Well, so ... and what to take with you, besides? request

            Quote: lexus
            Thanks for work!

            Contact us, they will always help you ... like yesterday, for example Yes
            1. -9
              21 March 2020 16: 50
              Yesterday you profiled Lexus.
              1. +5
                21 March 2020 16: 53
                Quote: lexus
                You yesterday profiled Lexus

                I don’t understand which of the two is the one on the left or the one on the right? wink
                1. -13
                  21 March 2020 16: 59
                  There are two representatives of your gang here. Judging by the unhealthy interest in my analyzes, there are no questions about you, and the second is a "shooter" in the radar and wallet. wink
                  1. +14
                    21 March 2020 17: 09
                    in the era of coronovirus, interest in analysis cannot be unhealthy
                    1. -12
                      21 March 2020 17: 32
                      Roman, if Gadia came from the clinic, there would be no questions. And here, excuse me, even the method of taking the tests seems to be alarming.
                  2. +6
                    21 March 2020 17: 12
                    Quote: lexus
                    There are two representatives of your gang

                    What do they think again? it happens Yes
                  3. +12
                    21 March 2020 17: 26
                    Quote: lexus
                    There are two representatives of your gang here. Judging by the unhealthy interest in my analyzes, there are no questions about you, and the second is a "shooter" in the radar and wallet. wink

                    Take care of your hand, Senya. Yes
                    1. +4
                      21 March 2020 17: 45
                      Vitaly, hello! even found you here! hi
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              1. +4
                21 March 2020 17: 22
                Quote: kuznec
                Golovan, I read your comments on this site for a long time

                We somehow intersected, I remember ... I have a good memory wink

                Quote: kuznec
                Storytellers will pull you in due time, do not hesitate. And you’ll stand at the wall anyway, but you won’t put all the people ...

                I don’t understand - you say what you want, or ask what? Do not be shy, here all your ... practically Yes

                PS: Well, the "blacksmith" has faded somewhere. And so it started beautifully request
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                  1. 0
                    21 March 2020 17: 37
                    Quote: kuznec
                    And who faded - no need to croak. He himself faded

                    De no, here I am ... and even trying to listen to you, boor, for some reason.

                    So is there something to say, or again, like an old man - just interjections? Come on, come on, right? wink
          2. +5
            21 March 2020 19: 25
            Quote: lexus
            I cannot but admire the depth of your analyzes.

            There is little flair, so you still took and tested my tests. Thanks for work! wink

            Your analyzes are only necessary to determine the next stupidity.
            It ... wrote softly. You deserve from your feet in e \ LO !!!
      5. +5
        21 March 2020 17: 35
        Quote: Tatiana
        And I believe that this US oil alliance with the SA has, in fact, been long established

        fellow The most interesting thing is that this alliance includes all those who sell oil for the “cut” paper of the Federal Reserve System ... belay Having entered this alliance, Russia physically cannot oppose anything to either the dollar or the Reserve System .. But !!! This is so cool! Accuse anyone of lowering prices in the global market. The same can be believed. But how to believe that, at a cost of $ 3,5 per barrel, domestic prices continue to rise during a global fall, pulling up prices for the existing range of Russian goods .. request
      6. +12
        21 March 2020 18: 00
        Quote: Tatiana
        the US oil alliance with CA has essentially been created long ago - even under Gorbachev

        Previously, Tatyana, hi . Much earlier.

        There is a very good book by J. Perkins "Confessions of an Economic Murderer"

        Specifically on the topic of the article - chapter XV "The development of money in Saudi Arabia."

        That's just a little from there.
        In 1974, a diplomat from Saudi Arabia showed me photographs of Riyadh, the capital of his country. One of these photographs showed a herd of goats swarming in piles of garbage near a government building. When I asked the diplomat about them, his answer shocked me. He told me that goats are the city’s main garbage disposal system.
        “The pride of the Saudis will never allow them to stoop to garbage collection,” he replied. "We leave it to the animals."
        Goats! In the capital of the greatest oil kingdom of the world. It seemed unbelievable.

        ... Washington began negotiations with the Saudis about technical support, military supplies and training, proposing to enter the country in the twentieth century in exchange for petrodollars ...

        Negotiations ended with the creation of an extremely unusual organization - the United States-Saudi Arabian Joint Economic Commission.

        ... the main goal is not to simply plunge the country into the abyss of debts that it can never repay, rather, it was to return the lion's share of petrodollars paid by the United States. In the process, Saudi Arabia had to get involved in the game, and its economy had to be so closely intertwined with ours that it guaranteed its orientation to the West and, therefore, Saudi sympathies and integration into our system.

        So there legs grow from the deep 70s and I don’t know what kind of alliance can be created further.
        1. +2
          21 March 2020 18: 09
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          So there legs grow from the deep 70s and I don’t know what kind of alliance can be created further.

          Thank you for reminding. I have this book. I will have to refresh it in my memory.
          In my commentary above, I recalled the times of Gorbachev, because because of the collusion between the United States and the SA, oil prices collapsed in the USSR under Gorbachev, and the Soviet neoliberal Gorbachev "elite" was taken by Washington for "gills".
          1. +5
            21 March 2020 18: 17
            Quote: Tatiana
            because of the collusion between the United States and the SA, oil prices in the USSR collapsed and the Soviet neoliberal "elite" was taken by Washington for the "gills"

            Years later, I got the impression that that "elite" was not strong and was against it to be taken "by the gills".
            At the very beginning of the 90s, a guy I knew served in the Kremlin. Not those who are beautiful in the company of the Guard of Honor, but which are guarded, pass checks, etc. About 40 samples of seals should have been known by heart. In the 2000s, he said that more than 500 American "specialists" had special passes to the Kremlin. How many of them do you think were paid by the CIA?

            And the book is really interesting. I read it a couple of times in its entirety and in fragments, by the current moment, I don’t remember how much already.
            1. 0
              21 March 2020 18: 21
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              What do you think - how many of them received a salary at the CIA?

              Everyone got it - some obviously, others from under the floor. They are all special services of the US State Department.
    2. +7
      21 March 2020 16: 05
      what can you do, what do you want?

      They cannot ... for example, affect oil prices ... as we see
      Saudis decide to play their game in poker smile ... now world politics reminds me of poker ... here you are both defamation and playing the dark and trying to put pressure on your partners' nerves ... in general, a blunder ... the game has gone big ... who is the first to get nervous .
      1. LMN
        +9
        21 March 2020 16: 09
        Alas, I agree about poker ..
      2. -1
        21 March 2020 16: 23
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        whose first nerves are twisted, that’s the question.

        What does the nerve have to do with it? Whoever the economy is the first to flinch. Here's what you need to do, or you take into abstraction, and they say everything is under control, and the situation depends on someone else's decision. There is nothing to do with it when the cost of Arab oil is less than Russian. Such an economic lever politicians.
        1. LMN
          +7
          21 March 2020 17: 38
          Economy? what
          What will the SA "economy" be worth if something more serious than drones suddenly flies?
          It is wrong, in my opinion, to separate politics, economics and the army.
          Without a strong army, it is impossible to pursue a strong policy. And, accordingly, to have a "stable" economy. The basis for everything is strength.
          As an example, not beautiful and not pleasant. Japan, within a couple of hours can be destroyed. And no "economy" will help them. Whether someone likes it or not, it is a fact.
          The US has been using the power factor for a long time and does not hide it.

          Therefore, I agree with "The same LYOKHA", playing on nerves. From Russia they have been waiting for a "breakdown" for a long time! But the Russian Federation holds on with dignity and does not give in to provocations.
          This is just my opinion. hi
        2. +2
          22 March 2020 03: 07
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Who is the first to tremble economy

          what and since when did the Saudis have an economy ?? !!! wassat laughing
    3. -2
      21 March 2020 17: 21
      what can you do, what do you want?




      Param param! Piu!
  2. -6
    21 March 2020 15: 59
    Will the United States go to war with Russia ... all the signs of preparation for it are evident ... now the United States seeks to enlist the support of as many allies as possible .. well, than Adolf Schicklgrubber’s policy before WWII.
    1. +8
      21 March 2020 16: 27
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Will the United States go to war with Russia ... all the signs of preparation for it are evident ... now the United States seeks to enlist the support of as many allies as possible .. well, than Adolf Schicklgrubber’s policy before WWII.

      Only then there was no NWF. If Aloizovich knew that starting the war at 4 a.m., at 4h30m a melted funnel would be in place of Berlin ... the war would hardly have begun ...
      1. -10
        21 March 2020 16: 44
        in place of Berlin there would be a melted funnel ... the war would hardly have begun ...

        Judas in power can only leave a molten funnel in the place of Voronezh. And you are a recluse and accomplice of their criminal acts.
        1. -2
          21 March 2020 16: 48
          Quote: lexus
          Judas in power a molten funnel can only be left in the place of Voronezh

          Poor, poor "goblin" ... crying

          * Lexus, consciousness expanders lead to a reduction in the nickname life on the site wink

          Quote: lexus
          And you are a recluse and an accomplice of their criminal acts

          Eh, the Internet, the Internet ... how much easier it was earlier request

          And right now the brave have divorced - and not even count them what
        2. 0
          21 March 2020 17: 24
          Quote: lexus
          Judas in power can only leave a molten funnel in the place of Voronezh.

          And why exactly Voronezh? Why is he so famous or unique?
          1. +1
            21 March 2020 21: 17
            And why exactly Voronezh? Why is he so famous or unique?


            A joke ... have not you heard?
            - Missiles are flying from America. Pull around New York?
            - Stunned? I have children and a yacht there. Could it be better in Paris?
            - No, there I bought a villa.
            -Ah, figurine in Voronezh, there are definitely not ours there.
      2. -3
        21 March 2020 17: 47
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        If Aloizovich knew that starting the war at 4 a.m., at 4h30m a melted funnel would be in place of Berlin ... the war would hardly have begun ...

        good 100%. And, if billions were not stored by the Russian elite ... (Brzezinski’s phrase), then when a nuclear strike against Saudi Arabia is carried out (hypothetically) no one even dared to blather and didn’t even raise their tail ...
        It seems to me that all this Russophobic stench around Russia is very beneficial for someone to "concoct" their dark deeds in Russia itself. I will say more, I do not even theoretically imagine who for Russia in the present situation may turn out to be a BROTHER by blood (however, a bosom friend).
        I declare to all "eagles" loudly and definitely: there is oil; there is a dollar for which it is traded; sooner or later, countries with one or the other will join the alliance as required. The only way is the physical destruction of the dollar as the main reserve currency. Another thing is how this can be achieved in economic "semi-isolation" ...
        hi
        1. 0
          21 March 2020 18: 14
          Quote: ROSS 42
          And if the Russian elite did not have billions

          Change the plate.
          She was in demand eight years ago.
        2. -2
          21 March 2020 18: 38
          Quote: ROSS 42
          The only way is the physical destruction of the dollar as the main reserve currency.

          BROTHER by blood, the physical destruction of the dollar is impossible. It can be destroyed by some actions (manipulations) in which he himself is eliminated by his depreciation or uselessness. So, estimate what kind of processes these are and manipulations when everything should turn out like that.
          The options are as follows (purely theoretical):
          - commodity circulation between countries
          - entering the stage of another reserve currency (but it will be strongly against the United States)
          - Greater strengthening or confidence in the Euro
          - trade in gold and other valuables
          - the gap of all agreements supporting the hegemony of the dollar
          - strengthening of all national currencies of each country
          - decentralize interstate electronic payments and create several alternative ones

          Many of these points should work simultaneously and in parallel in order to support each other in spite of the main hegemonic currency. Well, the will of several developed and strong countries.
          Think 42nd think.
          1. -2
            22 March 2020 00: 11
            while you watch Hollywood, use Google eppl kvalkomm intel melkosoft and so on, nothing threatens the dollar, there alone California controls the desires of the majority of the population of our ball, and even though they come up with a virtualcoin and decide to sell for it, it will immediately become a world currency.
    2. -3
      21 March 2020 16: 29
      "All around the enemy,", yeah, everything to "zero" on April 22! This is the only way to win! In the same ranks with the Sechin-Rotenberg-Miller-Deripaska! No time to swing! Yes
      PS: Yesterday I walked through the pharmacies in my area - nowhere are there: masks, disinfectants, disposable cellophane gloves, aspirin, paracetamol ... bought the last (found in the farthest pharmacy on the outskirts) a bottle of iodine ... The government with speculators-resellers he can’t cope, but it seems he doesn’t want to — some "meetings to develop something there" .... what kind of "war" is there ...
      1. -2
        21 March 2020 16: 49
        Quote: Snail N9
        I bought the last (I found in the farthest pharmacy on the outskirts) a bottle of iodine ...

        ... and then drank it laughing

        So what about the cutting pattern of mollusks, gastropods? Krisis zhezh, with a cow virus wink
      2. +9
        21 March 2020 17: 44
        Quote: Snail N9
        "All around the enemy,", yeah, everything to "zero" on April 22! This is the only way to win! In the same ranks with the Sechin-Rotenberg-Miller-Deripaska! No time to swing! Yes
        PS: Yesterday I walked through the pharmacies in my area - nowhere are there: masks, disinfectants, disposable cellophane gloves, aspirin, paracetamol ... bought the last (found in the farthest pharmacy on the outskirts) a bottle of iodine ... The government with speculators-resellers he can’t cope, but it seems he doesn’t want to — some "meetings to develop something there" .... what kind of "war" is there ...

        But don’t do it yesterday, before lunch, at the VO posts, scribble No. ... In pharmacies and shops, at this time, "alarmist kits" are cleaned belay your fellows grab.
      3. +1
        21 March 2020 18: 49
        Quote: Snail N9
        nowhere: masks, disinfectants, disposable cellophane gloves, aspirin, paracetamol

        - Mask - moisten gauze in a rag and urine (taught on life safety)
        - a disinfectant - deli cognac and other drinks, up to moonshine. By the way, dichlorvos also kills microbes and not only
        - there are rubber gloves and not only medical ones, but also construction ones and so on
        - aspirin - acetylsolicylic acid dilutes the blood (raspberries for example) if you sweat linden and drink on the bed at night (like a cucumber in the morning, and all viruses go to bed through the skin).
        - Paracetamol - does not cure, but simply drives the symptoms into the depths and the appearance of normality is created. There are many other painkillers and antipyretics.

        Your panic moods are largely fake and rush to the audience probably calculated.
    3. +1
      21 March 2020 16: 42
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Will the United States go to war with Russia ... all the signs of preparation for it are evident ... now the United States seeks to enlist the support of as many allies as possible .. well, than Adolf Schicklgrubber’s policy before WWII.

      I absolutely agree with you that all the signs of US preparation for TMV with Russia are evident. And absolutely everything!
      The USA, aged and old, who have lost their minds over the years of age, are idiots-multibillionaires of a globalist scale in the United States and they can very well take the whole world to their graves with them! They have this selfish desire to play roulette with life and death will not rust!
      One is Hillary Clinton, Biden Sr., Soros, etc. what are they worth!
      1. -14
        21 March 2020 16: 56
        Only Russia, more precisely, Moscow, will survive. "The last citadel" is the hope of all mankind:

        Ah, "amerige kirdyk" - exactly. There are only "elderly" in power, and in Russia - only young people, soon they will be "zeroed" in general (Russian "know-how"). Where is "ameriga" to Russia. Yes
        1. +6
          21 March 2020 17: 01
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Only Russia will survive

          I propose to discuss this issue in 30 - 40 days winked

          Have you bought a gun already? Have you stocked up cartridges? Berkem "Marauder" read - you will soon come in handy. Link to give, or find? wink
          1. -8
            21 March 2020 17: 23
            Of course we will (discuss) .... after April 22nd. And by the way, this is how it should be (about "shooting"):
            Yes
            1. +3
              21 March 2020 17: 26
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              Of course we will .... after April 22

              Well then, see you. Let Lenin be calmly born, do not shine laughing
              1. -3
                21 March 2020 17: 47
                Yeah, see you later. By the way, about Lenin:

                recourse
      2. +5
        21 March 2020 17: 39
        Quote: Tatiana
        One is Hillary Clinton, Biden Sr., Soros, etc. what are they worth!

        hi
        Yes, the degree of anger among the adherents of the "golden billion" is off scale. At one time, the Slavophobe Brzezinski directly expressed the idea of ​​these "Bilderbergers":
  3. +5
    21 March 2020 15: 59
    And they did not stop "Alliance"
    1. +3
      21 March 2020 16: 06
      Quote: alma
      And they did not stop "Alliance"

      Any alliance of someone with the Yankees is a switch to eating leftovers from their table! negative
      Those who wish are welcome!
      1. +2
        21 March 2020 17: 00
        Yura, hello! hi
        Quote: Major Yurik
        Any alliance of someone with the Yankees is a switch to eating leftovers from their table!

        Do hyenas or jackals need anything else?
        1. +2
          21 March 2020 17: 31
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Yura, hello! hi
          Quote: Major Yurik
          Any alliance of someone with the Yankees is a switch to eating leftovers from their table!

          Do hyenas or jackals need anything else?

          Hello Pasha! hi Notice, I did not say anything about Poland and Baltos! laughing
          1. +3
            21 March 2020 17: 51
            Quote: Major Yurik
            Notice, I did not say anything about Poland and Baltos!

            I noticed. wink Duc and I, well, no gu-gu about them ... feel
      2. -8
        21 March 2020 17: 09
        Any alliance of someone with the Yankees is a switch to eating leftovers from their table!

        As well as support for the zero impostor and his clique. Some to taste. They are agitating the rest.
        1. +9
          21 March 2020 18: 30
          Lexus, here Putin pins you, not childishly? You still do not use sedatives? In my opinion, you should go.
          1. -5
            21 March 2020 18: 42
            Putin pins you, not childishly

            I, unlike your public, are absolutely adequate.
            Sedatives

            I'm afraid to imagine that you are being prescribed to be like that

            I don’t want to go to your company. stop
            1. +8
              21 March 2020 18: 44
              Quote: lexus
              I, unlike your public, are absolutely adequate.

              First sign of mental illness recourse
              1. -3
                21 March 2020 18: 49
                First sign of mental illness

                Well, why are you climbing to me with your medical history? I'm sorry, but I can’t help. Excuse me, I do not have a specialized education. request
                1. +4
                  21 March 2020 18: 51
                  Quote: lexus
                  . Excuse me, I do not have a specialized education

                  But I do request I want to help before it's too late
            2. +7
              21 March 2020 19: 05
              Quote: lexus
              I, unlike your public, are absolutely adequate.

              Adequate inadequate, vitamin deficiency my joy. laughing Wear a gauze bandage on the conversational part of your head, take care of yourself for large, stupid speeches. wink
            3. +4
              21 March 2020 22: 01
              So no one calls you. Your company is the minions of billionaire Grudinin.
      3. +3
        22 March 2020 03: 12
        Quote: Major Yurik
        Any alliance of someone with the Yankees is a switch to eating leftovers from their table!

        this is not the worst option !!! wink then they simply hung one of their own !! request
  4. 0
    21 March 2020 16: 01
    In Washington, they are developing a plan about which the main defendants do not know or disagree. What is the likelihood of bringing this plan to life? Tends to zero.
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  6. +10
    21 March 2020 16: 02
    Washington has already managed to blame Russia for this, saying that Moscow "unleashed an oil war."

    Could Washington say anything else? Delirium is increasingly began to sound from the west.
    1. +8
      21 March 2020 19: 23
      Quote: Arlen
      Delirium is increasingly began to sound from the west.

      From there, from the west, there was always delirium.
  7. +6
    21 March 2020 16: 03
    stating that Moscow "unleashed an oil war" in order to "force US shale oil producers to cut production."

    Typical logic of the self-proclaimed navel of the Earth.
    1. +3
      21 March 2020 16: 22
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Typical logic of the self-proclaimed navel of the Earth.

      What is characteristic, nobody even asked the Camel.
      I always thought that the possibility of concluding such agreements should first be decided at the diplomatic level.
      1. +2
        21 March 2020 16: 33
        Quote: Gray Brother
        I always thought that the possibility of concluding such agreements should first be decided at the diplomatic level.

        That is the difference between normal sane people and exceptional stubborn ones.
        According to the publication, the Department of Energy is trying to convince the White House to form an alliance with Saudi Arabia.

        Indeed: in this matter, the main thing is to convince the White House, and the rest is no longer essential.
    2. 0
      21 March 2020 16: 33
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Moscow "unleashed an oil war" in order to "force American shale oil producers to cut production."

      Typical logic of the self-proclaimed navel of the Earth.

      - Well, not the same as us to declare them.
  8. LMN
    +4
    21 March 2020 16: 07
    Wow ... crushed apparently ?! bully
  9. 0
    21 March 2020 16: 07
    Trump bought the same KSA?
  10. 0
    21 March 2020 16: 10
    First, let OPEC leave and do whatever they want. It will be easier for everyone.
  11. -2
    21 March 2020 16: 11
    Actually, how many articles of absurdity, the first thing that key Russia is extracting. Heavy oil. Saudi Arabia and the United States light oil. Last year, the United States became the leader in oil purchases in Russia, while the United States itself is the largest seller of oil.
    1. 0
      21 March 2020 16: 42
      in 2019, the United States accounted for 1,8% of Russian oil sales. leader..
    2. -2
      21 March 2020 17: 59
      Quote: Andrey Mikhaylov
      Actually, how many articles of absurdity, the first thing that key Russia is extracting. Heavy oil. Saudi Arabia and the United States light oil.

      Recalling the basics of chemistry and moonshining, I can make the assumption that in light oil the least of what is made of plastic and so on is the least. Therefore, Venezuelan viscous, heavy oil is in demand no less than Saudi (in the USA in particular).
      The key thing for us is that the tax system of Russia does not allow us to have cheap fuel in the domestic market, and the Russians do not own revenues from half of all the oil produced in the country at all. This is the KEY from all the doors of power, banking and other doors, where "outsiders." That is why it suits both the government and its immediate environment.
  12. +2
    21 March 2020 16: 12
    Moscow "unleashed an oil war" in order to "force American shale oil producers to cut production" - stop mining, it will be more accurate to say.
    The US can control Saudi oil, but they cannot save its shale oil.
    1. -1
      21 March 2020 18: 07
      Quote: Andobor
      The US may control saudi oil but at the same time, they cannot save their shales.

      All the advantages of oil production are that temporary conservation does not require large expenditures, unlike gas production. As they closed, they will open it. They do not need to get anything. Just print dollars and EVERYTHING !!! Or do you think that someone in the US will repay external debt? Yes, they “wound up” through “ö” ... The whole world using $ will do everything to prevent it from collapsing. And the United States will do everything so that no one leaves the Bretton Woods system. A vicious vicious circle that could break the IVS, for which he paid.
      1. 0
        21 March 2020 18: 30
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Just print dollars and EVERYTHING !!!

        Yes, the United States in this situation as a state will not suffer much,
        but their shale industry came to an end, - forever, there it’s not just opened, closed,
        They give a water hammer and download faster, a year and a half, those who didn’t have time are late,
        but where it was given before the year and a half will flow.
        But no one else will invest in this very risky business, Putin took and closed the krantik, without any sanctions.
        1. 0
          22 March 2020 00: 23
          their shale and horizontal drilling began when the profitability of detailed production was a distant dream, now everyone will freeze, and even during this time costs will decrease and it will turn out to be profitable at $ 30 per barrel
  13. -1
    21 March 2020 16: 16
    US May Build Oil Alliance with Saudi Arabia
    ========================
    Let them create. The time will come ... (remember my comment) The USA WILL NOT survive on shales and exports.
    (DO NOT deceive geography). like nature.
    The second is that the Arabs are trying to force ALL out of the world market, including America.
    And only a complete layman does not understand this.
    Islam (the Muslim world) WILL NEVER ACCEPT the policy of "infidels".
    It all began more than thirty years ago when the Americans and Israelis decided to crush the Middle East.
    This is a huge mistake of the USA and Israel.
  14. -8
    21 March 2020 16: 18
    It’s ridiculous to read your comments .. You have one enemy of the USA on your mind ... But think with your one twist they want to straighten oil prices because such prices are not beneficial to anyone ... For example, I had 3 million on deposit for 14 % and what will happen to this money now if the dollar exchange rate has grown so much, and I work as a simple engineer and have been saving for a long time and I think this situation is with many citizens ... Listen to what Leonid Fedun says ... But Putin and Sechin have global plans to collapse shale US oil production yes you beat yourself you would like to tell them ..
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    2. +6
      21 March 2020 16: 25
      Quote: arsenks
      For example, I had 3 million on deposit at 14%

      In which country is the deposit 14%?
      This is Ukrainian interest, in Russia, in principle, there are none,
      And what does Putin and Sechin have to do with it then.
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        1. 0
          21 March 2020 17: 52
          The main contents of bottom sediments are excrement. You don’t need to go there. hi
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      2. 0
        21 March 2020 16: 54
        Quote: primaala
        Look beyond your nose !!! If Russia enters the world market for the sale of ALL RAW MATERIALS NEEDED, (and for almost nothing) then you WILL BECOME LIVEST TIME BETTER !!! We are NOT allowed to develop !!! That sanction (stupid) slipped, then ... and so on the thumb ...
        You, as always, in your repertoire! love As Solomon said, "there are many sorrows in knowledge", but this is not about you, unfortunately. A wise decision is to build a reserve stock of raw materials when they are worthless on the market, not to sell them! One of the golden rules of money says: "Sell when everyone is buying and buy when everyone is selling." Our oil production is already more expensive than that of the Arabs, and over time this price will only be higher. Well, about the development of the country - this is to the government, which allows you to cut the budget and bring the results of this cut abroad! hi
        1. -6
          21 March 2020 16: 59
          A wise decision is to create a reserve stock of raw materials
          ======================
          Uh-huh. Either I look the Arabs have removed the "reservation" (surviving on tourists).
          Study the question of the dumb global economy, then get into the dialogue.
          How are you bullied ... !!! ipa you !!!
        2. -2
          21 March 2020 19: 03
          Our oil production is already more expensive than that of the Arabs
          ===================
          You are wrong. It became more expensive to mine when the Americans offered Cardwell.
          Sechin announced the price of production - in fact. And when I wrote that Russia does NOT lose anything and at a price of $ 10, many put a minus. However ... I was right. Like this.
          1. 0
            21 March 2020 21: 34
            Quote: primaala
            And when I wrote that Russia does NOT lose anything and at a price of $ 10, many put a minus. However ... I was right. Like this.

            You reason like a schoolboy who is just too lazy to learn lessons! If the conditional price can be at least $ 42 / barrel (the budget is based on this amount), then by selling oil, whose reserves are finite, for $ 10 / b, Russia loses $ 32 per barrel! With the production of 10,738 million barrels per day, the country will receive less than 343,616 million dollars per day. I’m not even talking about the cost of production and transportation, this is in your inexperienced opinion, all the little things that do not need to be taken into account. And it still seems to you that you are right in asserting complete stupidity !?
            1. -1
              21 March 2020 21: 35
              Quote: businessv
              Quote: primaala
              And when I wrote that Russia does NOT lose anything and at a price of $ 10, many put a minus. However ... I was right. Like this.

              You reason like a schoolboy who is just too lazy to learn lessons! If the conditional price can be at least $ 42 / barrel (the budget is based on this amount), then by selling oil, whose reserves are finite, for $ 10 / b, Russia loses $ 32 per barrel! With the production of 10,738 million barrels per day and less than 343,616 million dollars per day. I’m not even talking about the cost of production and transportation; in your inexperienced opinion, these are trifles that should not be taken into account. And it still seems to you that you are right in asserting complete stupidity !?

              No. Not a schoolboy.
              PRACTICE !!! And I know what I'm writing about.
      3. +1
        21 March 2020 17: 18
        Quote: primaala
        Quote: arsenks
        It’s ridiculous to read your comments .. You have one enemy of the USA on your mind ... But think with your one twist they want to straighten oil prices because such prices are not beneficial to anyone ... For example, I had 3 million on deposit for 14 % and what will happen to this money now if the dollar exchange rate has grown so much, and I work as a simple engineer and have been saving for a long time and I think this situation is with many citizens ... Listen to what Leonid Fedun says ... But Putin and Sechin have global plans to collapse shale US oil production yes you beat yourself you would like to tell them ..

        Lord merciful !!! Where did you get such thoughts !? Have you even thought for a minute (sometimes) who the owners of the COURSE of the dollar are ?! I’m sure. NO!!! You are like a blind kitten, you see only your personal benefit (to go to the Canaries, and so not expensive). Ridiculously !!! Eibo !!!
        Look beyond your nose !!! If Russia enters the world market for the sale of ALL RAW MATERIALS NEEDED, (and for almost nothing) then you WILL BECOME LIVEST TIME BETTER !!!
        We are NOT allowed to develop !!! That sanction (stupid) slipped, then ... and so on the thumb...

        And who specifically does not allow us to develop? Well here is oil, as you know the blood of the economy. And everyone understands that the price of fuel directly affects the cost of a huge variety of goods and services. So what do we see? Source zr.ru:
        In Russia, the average price of AI-95 gasoline, according to Rosstaton March 10, 2020 amounted to 45,9 rub per liter.
        According to foreign media reports, gas stations in Kentucky (USA) began to sell fuel at a price of less than one dollar per gallon - 99 cents. When converted to units of measurement that are familiar to us, it turns out that Minimal the cost of one liter of gasoline in the US today is approximately 17,5 rub per liter.
        About a week ago, the GasBuddy American price tracker predicted today's price drop, and Kentucky became the first state to be noted.. The average cost one gallon of gasoline in the US is $ 2,14 (about 38 rubles per liter). At the same time, there is a decrease in the average price in 2020 relative to 2019 by 44,6 cents (about 36 rubles - 7,9 rubles per liter).

        And what about the "blood of the economy" there? And we have another surprise: A 92nd gasoline for the year increased in price by 10,44%. How do you rate this? ” - Putin addressed the members of the government.

        So who exactly does not allow us to develop, killing our own economy, with high fuel prices? Name, Alla, name! Who is so powerful that to the detriment of the Russian economy, it keeps high fuel prices in the Russian Federation itself, making enterprises uncompetitive in this component with enterprises, for example, the United States? Name, Alla, name!

        And I will tell you this name. Of course, not alone, but this wonderful "energy pyramid" is headed by Mr. Putin, together with his closest associates (Sechin, Miller and some others). They collect rent from every citizen of the Russian Federation through this inflated fuel price. And they don't care about the rest of the economy, they have already collected their own through the price of fuel. And you can look for enemies abroad as much as you like, which hinder the development of the Russian Federation.
        Look carefully, but remember that in Kentucky the driver John will refuel at 17,5 rubles and carry the load, while in Ryazan, the conditional Andrey will refuel at 45 rubles and will also carry the load. So then do not be surprised why the conditional Andrei from Ryazan turned up with his business (well, along the chain), and John from Kentucky continues to carry further and more. And why didn’t he have to carry it, if the conditional Adrey (well, along the chain) from Ryazan was initially doomed to lose in the competition.

        PS Someone else is surprised that the Russian Federation is completely dependent on imports and why its almost none?
        1. 0
          21 March 2020 17: 59
          Quote: Leshy1975
          Someone else is surprised that the Russian Federation is completely dependent on imports and why there is almost none of its own?

          You always amaze with the patience and thoroughness of the posts, colleague! Thank! good
      4. +1
        21 March 2020 18: 15
        Quote: primaala
        We are NOT allowed to develop !!! That sanction (stupid) slipped, then ... and so on the thumb ...

        Really! Who does not allow us to develop? Aren't those “heroes of labor and United Russia”?
        And it was knurled, no one hid it. Just do not talk about it on central television:

        And now they may not allow to develop until 2036 ... belay
    4. -1
      21 March 2020 17: 33
      Quote: arsenks
      .You listen to what Leonid Fedun says ...

      He says what his American shareholders are telling him, because Lukoil is essentially an American company in Russia.
      Quote: arsenks
      And Putin and Sechin have global plans to collapse US shale oil production

      Absolutely the right decision - we do not need another competitor in the oil market. By the way, the Americans acted in exactly the same way when they want to destroy an economic competitor, and this happened during the Soviet era, we remember that.
      Quote: arsenks
      You outplayed yourself I would like to tell them ..

      At the end of the year, we’ll see who beat someone, but the fact that American oil companies are cutting production already proves that we did the right thing.
      1. -3
        21 March 2020 19: 27
        Quote: ccsr
        Absolutely correct decision - we do not need one more competitor in the oil products market

        Competitor? Laponka what are you talking about now? What nafig competitors? Russia will reach the peak of oil production within a year, and will stay there for 1-2 years. Further only a recession. What are the competitors, if from 2023-24 we ourselves begin to leave the market? We have no new available oil fields. There is oil, but the one that we can produce is already in short supply. There remains a lot of shelf and shale (hello sechina). Well, Bazhenov to the heap. Neither the first, nor the second, nor the third are we able to produce. You see what the matter is, in the production of equipment for the oil industry, advanced and dynamically developing Russia is 30 years behind the rotting and decaying states. And after 10 years, it will leave the ranks of large exporters, and after 15, export will cease altogether. Why are you competing are you together? Tales in style - and we have this shoe polish ...., against real deliveries?
        And no. These are not the notions of all-scouts. It was notions 5-7 years ago, and now this is quite an official position of the government of the Russian Federation.
        1. -4
          21 March 2020 19: 37
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          These are not the notions of all-scouts. It was notions 5-7 years ago, and now this is quite an official position of the government of the Russian Federation

          A source?
        2. +1
          22 March 2020 11: 28
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          Competitor? Laponka what are you talking about now? What nafig competitors? Russia will reach the peak of oil production within a year, and will stay there for 1-2 years. Further only a recession. What are the competitors, if from 2023-24 we ourselves begin to leave the market? We have no new available oil fields.

          This may not be for you, and specialists, unlike your idle talk, have official data:
          The Federal Agency for Subsoil Use (Rosnedra) completed an inventory of Russian oil fields, which was carried out to analyze the effectiveness of tax benefits. The result of the study was the conclusion that most of the oil reserves in our country are profitable. This was announced by Deputy Head of the Federal Agency Orest Kasparov at a session of the international forum "Russian Energy Week" (REN) on October 3.
          “In total, we have 2 thousand 700 oil fields. This is 28,9 billion tons of oil. Of these, the inventory included deposits with reserves of over 5 million tons, or 719 deposits. This is 92% of all reserves, or 26% of all deposits, ”he said.

          If you learn to understand what is written correctly, then you’ll guess that we even have enough explored deposits for many years of operation, given that in 2018, 556 million tons were mined. Take a nerd calculator, and calculate how many years we can pump oil without worrying, especially as experts show that it is different at cost price:
          On average, the cost of producing a barrel of Russian oil is about $ 2 per barrel. The cost of mining hard-to-recover and offshore reserves is higher - about $ 20.
          Indicators also vary significantly depending on the degree of subsoil development. With falling production, the cost is higher since less oil is extracted at the same cost level. This was stated in 2015 by Kirill Molodtsov, the then Deputy Minister of Energy at that time, and now an assistant to the head of the presidential administration of Russia.

          https://www.gazeta.ru/business/2019/10/03/12735607.shtml
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          You see what the matter is, in the production of equipment for the oil industry, advanced and dynamically developing Russia is 30 years behind the rotting and decaying states.

          You simply lagged behind life - we invested in gas production, because in the 21st century gas will be the main energy raw material, and the role of oil and coal will only decrease, and it will be used only for certain types of fuel such as kerosene or gasoline.
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          . And after 10 years, it will leave the ranks of large exporters, and after 15, exports will cease altogether.

          I am glad that our experts correctly calculated everything, and gas production and its sale compensate for our losses from the sale of crude oil. Gas will steer - but you still have not grown to understand this, as well as why we are laying so many gas pipelines.
          1. -3
            22 March 2020 13: 03
            Quote: ccsr
            It may not be for you, and specialists, unlike your idle talk,

            Chatter is generally new. On which these same experts work hard. But in principle, you can say that the government is the proteges of the State Department. And novak is a traitor who spread disu, etc.
            Quote: ccsr
            we even have enough proven deposits for many years of operation,

            Especially for the alternative gifted, I can repeat it. We have a lot of oil, relatively much. not 29 by the way, but 32. The only problem is that there are several guys who rule the country, who often know that all sorts of institutions are for suckers. And a little-tricked kid will swing a slush over a hill, and there he will buy everything he needs. That's just overseas slightly threw some guys. And they refused to sell equipment. And domestic at the level of the end of the USSR. and even then ... In short supply. And about 2 / 3-3 / 4 of the indicated reserves, which were rarities 30 years ago, are in principle impossible to download. So divide stocks by 3 or 4.
            Quote: ccsr
            You simply lagged behind life - we invested in gas production, because in the 21st century gas will be the main energy source

            Laponka. Gas is about 1/7 of export earnings for fuel and energy products, or 9% of total exports. Not that it’s completely zero, but does not affect the general situation at all. Ban tomorrow gas demand in foreign markets? In addition to shareholders and hard workers of Gazprom itself, in Russia no one will notice this fact. Well, if you do not actively promote it.
            Quote: ccsr
            I am glad that our experts correctly calculated everything, and gas production and its sale compensate for our losses from the sale of crude oil.

            To compensate for gas oil, it is necessary to sell not 220 yards, but about 1600. And this is about 3 times more than the total consumption of China, Japan, Germany and England. Good luck in general then.
            1. 0
              23 March 2020 17: 21
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              The only problem is that the country is ruled by several guys,

              You can not continue further - your slogans are uninteresting because of their primitiveness.
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              Good luck in general then.

              Thanks for your kind words. But if something serious other than slogans appears, let me know ...
            2. 0
              23 March 2020 17: 21
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              The only problem is that the country is ruled by several guys,

              You can not continue further - your slogans are uninteresting because of their primitiveness.
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              Good luck in general then.

              Thanks for your kind words. But if something serious other than slogans appears, let me know ...
      2. -1
        22 March 2020 00: 41
        Please remind me what share in the US GDP is the sale of oil? and how much do they buy? they only benefit from cheap oil, and we, who have more than half of GDP in the export of resources, like .. continue to sell even at low prices
    5. +4
      21 March 2020 18: 32
      Fedun's words are taken out of context. Read his interview in full and wipe your tears.
      1. +7
        21 March 2020 18: 51
        Onion sorrow, hence the tears of this all-knowing. Yes Greetings, Alex hi
        1. +4
          21 March 2020 21: 58
          Vitaly, welcome!
  15. +4
    21 March 2020 16: 21
    Your mother, the news carries with idiocy a mile away. Someone heard, for example, what was the name of the plant that the Houthis blew up? Aramco ... 80% of the production of oil products from the Saudis gives. And what does the name mean - "Aramko". Yes, all the same simply - "ARABO-AMERICAN COMPANY". "Create CAN", oga-oga, put out the lights, drain the water
  16. +4
    21 March 2020 16: 23
    "The US can create an oil alliance with Saudi Arabia", they have had it since the days of Afghanistan during the Soviet era.
    To do everything so that hydrocarbons from the USSR do not enter Southeast Asia through the territory of Afghanistan.
  17. -2
    21 March 2020 16: 39
    I don’t know what the Saudis and I are busy with; for a long time it was necessary to bomb this country in the Stone Age and, above all, their oil fields
    1. -1
      21 March 2020 18: 29
      Quote: Graz
      to bomb this country in the stone age

      ... Mecca with Medina ... We get a natural jihad, not a parody of it. what Dudaev portrayed in Chechnya - both Shiites and Sunnis will cut us simply fundamentally
    2. +3
      22 March 2020 03: 17
      Quote: Graz
      for a long time it is necessary to bomb this country in the Stone Age

      they seemed to have moved slightly away from the Stone Age !!! wink laughing
  18. +1
    21 March 2020 16: 44
    Washington has already blamed Russia for this, saying that Moscow "unleashed an oil war" in order to "force American shale oil producers to cut production."
    And what else should they say and who should be blamed if we refused the deal, it doesn’t matter for what reasons? Honestly, the Saudis unleashed a war, increasing production, thereby lowering prices, but the minke whales will definitely not blame them - they are allies!
    1. -1
      21 March 2020 18: 31
      Quote: businessv
      but minke whales will definitely not blame them - they are allies!

      So you are behind the times
      A group of 13 US senators wrote a letter to Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman, asking him to abandon a sharp increase in oil production, according to Bloomberg.
      1. 0
        21 March 2020 21: 04
        Quote: Cowbra
        So you are behind the times
        A group of 13 US senators wrote a letter to the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman

        And how does your post refute mine? Already nothing! 13 senators, for a bottle of scotch tape, decided to sprinkle a letter to their friend, who sponsors them from time to time. Does this mean that the states and Saudis are not allies?
        1. 0
          21 March 2020 21: 20
          Yes, not so much disproves ... Everything is much funnier there. The fact is that the Saudis are, of course, allies of the United States. But at the same time, the sick are all the cuckoo. I will not say that it was the United States that fined them for supporting the terrorists who graduated on 9/11 ... Or they bit tightly for the murder of a journalist at the embassy ... There is a coma in the assumption that the Saudis are using these petrol kits. that any action that brings down oil prices is bad for the Russian Federation, and therefore good for its opponents, not only stepped on the corn of the United States, but even taped on it! And this letter is a very interesting fun, especially considering. that one of the signatories is Trump's economic adviser, not the last person. and he creeped from this feint of Saud 2 lard))) So we stock up on popcorn, it will be funny
  19. 0
    21 March 2020 16: 46
    That's right, let them create an alliance and reduce production.
  20. +2
    21 March 2020 16: 48
    Supporters of the US oil alliance with Saudi Arabia advocate stabilization for energy and preventing their collapse
    The states feel fine at any (!!!) oil price. Democrats want low, Republicans want high, or vice versa. 50/50 in general. If it is low, what they will receive less from raw materials will be taken from the growth of production and small business. And before the elections, they will also delight the voters. Another thing is that this is yet another club of punishment for "bad" countries. With the Saudis, for example, it is possible to coordinate the squeezing of Russian oil and gas from European markets.
    1. -2
      21 March 2020 17: 13
      States feel normal at any (!!!) oil price.

      Why are you doing this, right? Do not prevent the "patriots" from enjoying the fantasies of "Vesnukhin" (there was such a movie in the USSR). You see how they are rushing from the next "shot in the leg", sorry HPP. They've even been fucked up now, not Voronezh, but the whole country and even Moscow have been hooked, "but you are happy, like," and "America will be even worse" !. lol So, don't break their buzz. Write better that in addition, "the caldera in Yellowstone Park has risen by 3 meters, it will soon explode." Or write that Americans, with wet eyes, look with dismay at the flashing numbers in the exchange offices of their dollar against the ruble, how the dollar falls and the ruble grows, they believe everything, the main thing is to "against America." love Now, we need more positive-crown, the crisis and all that, many are already on the platoon, they already see the war.Yes
      1. +3
        21 March 2020 17: 16
        Why are you saying this? Don't bother the "patriots" ...
        Oh, it's me without thinking. laughing I just wanted to say that the true and declared goals are often different.
      2. -3
        21 March 2020 17: 17
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        ... their rushing from the next "shot in the leg", sorry HPP. They've even been fucked up now, not Voronezh, but the whole country and even Moscow are hooked ...

        Yeah. And you still go upside down there, and in addition bought up all the toilet paper ... monster? wink
        1. +4
          21 March 2020 17: 42
          And you still walk upside down there,

          And not only "we", but also our little friends:

          and also bought up all the toilet paper ... monster?

          They buy up ... we also have a "remote":

          And-Ts-s-s! do not "shoot" me ... Some people suspect me here (in "yus"):

          hi
          1. +8
            21 March 2020 18: 54
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            And you still walk upside down there,

            And not only "we", but also our little friends:

            and also bought up all the toilet paper ... monster?

            They buy up ... we also have a "remote":

            And-Ts-s-s! do not "shoot" me ... Some people suspect me here (in "yus"):

            hi

            Because it is a pleasure to eat, and paper, like the girls later. Yes
        2. +1
          21 March 2020 18: 03
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          ... their rushing from the next "shot in the leg", sorry HPP. They've even been fucked up now, not Voronezh, but the whole country and even Moscow are hooked ...

          Yeah. And you still go upside down there, and in addition bought up all the toilet paper ... monster? wink

          Now Monster_Fat, from America, will sing a signature song for us, how trillions of dollars can be easily drawn and distributed to friends and acquaintances by their wizards-bankers from the Fed ...

          1. -5
            21 March 2020 18: 20
            Now we Monster_Fat, from America, will sing about ....

            Why should I "sing"? Judging by your post, you already know everything. Yes By the way, in your drawing, the people on Sechin are very similar, aren't they? wink
            1. +4
              21 March 2020 22: 38
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              Why should I "sing"? Judging by your post, you already know everything.

              Thanks for that! The same pall to listen winked
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              By the way, in your drawing, the people on Sechin are very similar, aren't they?

              Oh, no No. as always - from a sore head to a healthy bully
              1. -5
                22 March 2020 11: 04
                Oh, no

                Truth? And, for me, so spilled:
                1. +4
                  22 March 2020 13: 54
                  Quote: Monster_Fat
                  Oh, no

                  Truth? And, for me, so spilled:

                  You will sing these "songs" about evil Russians in Nebraska, where you can buy an admiral's diploma for $ 25 lol
                  Although I understand winked fast food, on trans fats, in the USA affects eyesight, that you don’t recognize yours ... So rely on you request .
                  1. +1
                    23 March 2020 08: 52
                    Yes, and this one is similar (just like brothers wink ), I agree. And since both are alike, it means ... this is "one field of berries." laughing
      3. -3
        21 March 2020 18: 04
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Why are you doing this, right? Don't stop the "patriots" from enjoying their fantasies

        Greetings, colleague! I have not read your posts for a long time, I missed the humor. Write more often, it invigorates! good hi
        1. -1
          21 March 2020 18: 24
          Greetings, colleague!

          I also welcome you. Sorry that I was absent from the forum for some time, took advanced training courses at the CIA, received new training manuals from the "State Department", studied, took notes, and so on. bully
          1. 0
            21 March 2020 20: 59
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            took advanced training courses at the CIA, received new training manuals from the "State Department", studied, took notes, and all that

            Fine! So it will be even more fun! good drinks
    2. bar
      +3
      21 March 2020 17: 27
      With the Saudis, for example, it is possible to coordinate the extrusion of Russian oil and gas from European markets.

      Nothing will come of it. That of the Saudis, that of the striped, high costs for the delivery of oil-gas to Europe. And Russia here benefits purely geographically. This time.
      At such a price for oil (and therefore gas), striped will simply have nothing to squeeze Russia out of Europe, the oil shales will die. And not only oil comes from them, but the same gas as associated gas. So there will be no oil, there will be no gas, there will be nothing to save Europe from Gazprom. These are two.
      So besides American drivers, the low oil price is not beneficial to anyone, not to the Saudis, or to the American government, or to us.
      1. -2
        21 March 2020 17: 57
        ... the low price of oil is not beneficial to anyone, not to the Saudis, or to the American government, or to us.
        It's like that. 1. But, at a long distance. On the short side, dumping to capture market share is justified. Their prime cost is minimal, and they have experience in capturing markets. 2. Shale technology, in contrast to transmission oil, allows to increase-reduce-mothball production from scratch. 3. Quite the opposite. First, Europe to the Saudis, and then to the States of China, when the exchange raises the price tag (by the invisible hand of the market). And after the ultimatum "for consumer goods - shale", the price will not matter much.
        All these, of course, are reflections and probabilities. But, with such an alliance, it is possible.
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          +1
          21 March 2020 18: 02
          Many options, I agree. Let's see how it goes.
          I hope that when playing a long Russia will be the winner.
          I hope this option was miscalculated and prepared for it before slamming the door to the guard.
          1. -1
            21 March 2020 18: 10
            We would like to hope that ordinary citizens will not have to tighten their belts around their necks. Indeed, in the case of long low prices, oil will have to be driven below cost. And if you do not drive to the detriment, then you can lose the market forever. True, they will need the modernization of oil refineries in V. Europe to a different grade - this is Russia's trump card.
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              21 March 2020 18: 45
              Trump is good. Europeans cannot help but realize that a freebie for oil will not last long, and there is no sense in rebuilding refineries from Russian oil to light Arab oil and then back.
              There is one more trump card. Rumor has it that, in the wake of Arab dumping, tanker rental prices jumped sharply. So geography is also a trump card for us.
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      -1
      21 March 2020 19: 05
      States feel normal at any (!!!) oil price.

      States as a self-sufficient state - yes. They will, as before, buy cheap Arab oil and live in chocolate.
      But the states, as the world hegemon, need expensive oil. So that our own shale oil and gas production flourished, which was something to "save" the Europeans from the totalitarian Russian energy resources. And cheap oil kills their production and undermines the hegemonic status of the states.
      1. -1
        23 March 2020 06: 20
        But states as a world hegemon need expensive oil.
        To buy more oil at a low price, for candy wrappers or high-value products, real resources for virtual ones, what harms the title of Hegemon? The USA does not live on rent from raw materials, but there is also a real economy (we do not take into account the virtual economy in this scenario, because it does not care what to speculate with). But the manufacturing sector,
        ... And cheap oil kills their production and undermines the hegemonic status of the states.
        need cheap! Those. States in any situation are in the black, and what they break, smart or beautiful? laughing That's about it, in Russia, languages ​​have been scratched for a long time. But to get away from dependence on raw materials, without developing production, is to "drive the empty and take revenge with a broom" (this is so as not to swear). The crisis has not yet begun, and the resource-based rental economy is already derailed.
        PS It seems I repeated the start topic, in other words. recourse
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          0
          23 March 2020 08: 14
          Buy more oil at a low price, for candy wrappers than harm the title of Hegemon?

          Have you noticed that using its shale oil and gas, the US is trying to steer the energy market in Europe, forcing Russia out of there? Have you missed the topic of sanctions against "Nord Stream 2" and other actions directed against Russia?
          Without their own energy sources for sale, the stripes will have to abandon this policy of pressure on Russia, there will be nothing to push. And what kind of hegemon are they after?
          1. -1
            24 March 2020 19: 38
            And what kind of hegemon are they after?
            Offhand. One that affects the price of oil. One that even China can ask (not to mention the European countries) not to buy oil from Russia. One that can impose sanctions on any oil producer. One that could destroy OPEC and put together a new alliance. Did you miss the news about a possible US embargo on oil from Russia? And this does not mean that the States will not buy it, it means that we will not officially sell this oil to anyone! No $ proceeds-no collateral rubles- no salaries to police and gendarmes. So dictatorships fall apart.
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              +1
              24 March 2020 20: 38
              So dictatorships fall apart.

              Why do you hate Russia so much?
              1. -2
                24 March 2020 20: 45
                "I love my country so much and I hate the state" (quote). RF trust management company, USSR-RSFSR founders. RF is not a state at all, but a simulacrum. I don't even have my own money. This is my position. But I love Russia, and I'm not going to leave.
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                  0
                  24 March 2020 20: 51
                  "I love my country so much and I hate the state"

                  Wacky quote. A country without a state is not even a geographical concept, but simply a space without a name with longitude and latitude. To which anyone can come and do anything there. Strange concepts about geography that are strange for you all.
                  1. -1
                    24 March 2020 20: 55
                    Why do you hate Russia so much?
                    And why do you hate Russia so much if you wish its people poverty under the rule of the occupation administration? The quote is excellent and shows the difference between a country, a people and a state. And you have to be a complete sectarian "If not a clone" to ignore it.
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                      +1
                      24 March 2020 21: 03
                      You should check with a psychiatrist, Ipatiy Valera. And I at first accepted you as normal.
                      It's strange that you were brought to this site. After all, many of its visitors took the oath of office with this "occupation administration".
                      1. -2
                        24 March 2020 22: 03
                        Unfortunately, I also thought that I was communicating with an adequate person who wanted to know something. And if someone, a psychiatrist, can help, then the state = country = power = Putin is not a person who considers it. Even under one term there are often different concepts (and understanding), and to push one understanding into a bunch of terms is to be a complete primitive. But, from the primitives, excellent pseudo-patriots emerge who, with slogans, destroy the people and the country.
                        PS Many on this site took the oath of the USSR, and cooperation with the company of the Russian Federation is an oath of crime and aiding the invaders. I think there are few of them.
                        PS Why did you eat it? Police? If yes, then answer why there are no signs of belonging to the state on the form (transport), and why the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation is registered as a private company, along with other "state bodies" of the simulacrum.
                      2. 0
                        24 March 2020 22: 20
                        Quote: Hypatius
                        Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation is registered as a private company

                        Give a source, or la-la?

                        Quote: Hypatius
                        "I love my country so much and I hate the state" (quote)

                        You and managed to misinterpret the quote ... stands.

                        Quote: Yevtushenko, Homeland
                        I love my homeland
                        But I hate the state!

                        Also, Gd doesn’t know that, of course ... but at least it makes some sense, unlike request
                      3. -1
                        24 March 2020 22: 33
                        You and managed to misinterpret the quote ... stands.
                        You flatter me, because I did not misinterpret:
                        The main point, vaashcheta laughing
                      4. -1
                        24 March 2020 22: 35
                        Quote: Hypatius
                        I did not misinterpret

                        You voiced. Kohl quote - it would be nice to know the original. Well, it’s not interesting, let's get closer to the point:

                        Quote: Hypatius
                        Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation is registered as a private company

                        Unveil the source, please Yes
                      5. -2
                        24 March 2020 22: 39
                        And this is a computer pro asks laughing . Okay, look. Only too late, maybe until tomorrow. Please do not lend a word.
                      6. -2
                        24 March 2020 22: 46
                        Quote: Hypatius
                        And this is a computer pro asks

                        You see ... there are tons of rubbish on the Internet, and you can’t find anything like that there. I’m wondering what exactly (and where exactly) you found in this case.
                      7. 0
                        24 March 2020 23: 27
                        Yeah, here I downloaded the extract from the rubbish egrul.nalog.ru.
                        Next, the first digit of the PSRN: 1 - legal entity, 2 - government agencies, 3 - un. Curious areas of activity. And the fact that any employee of this Ministry of Internal Affairs should have a power of attorney from Kolokoltsev. PS And the Soviet police, had the right to use the symbols of the state: coat of arms, sickle and hammer, as part of the banner.
                      8. 0
                        24 March 2020 23: 35
                        This is all great. The question, nevertheless, remained: how does everything that you wrote indicate that

                        Quote: Hypatius
                        Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation is registered, as a private company

                        And whose is it, if it is "private"? wink
                      9. 0
                        25 March 2020 00: 36
                        And whose is it, if it is "private"? wink
                        Are you kidding or forgot to read again? Ah, too lazy to check, but I, too, will not cram the pdf file here. The extract from the register says that the legal entity
                        The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation was founded by Kolokoltsev for the production of newspapers and other crap. On behalf of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, he alone can act without a power of attorney.
                        According to the decoding of the OGRN it is clear that this is not a state institution. And rightly so, where do they come from if de jure the Constitution and laws of the USSR are in force, incl. The law on the Soviet police. Good night.
                        Z. S. I noticed that at least the insurers of this Ministry of Internal Affairs of the state institution :).
                      10. -1
                        25 March 2020 08: 40
                        Quote: Hypatius
                        first number of PSRN: 1 - legal entity, 2 - state institutions, 3 - un

                        This is a legend from the trash. That's right - like this:

                        Quote: Single Tax Service Fee
                        1st sign - sign of assignment of the state registration number of the record:

                        1. to the main state registration number (PSRN) - 1, 5
                        2. to another state registration number of the entry - 2
                        3. to the main state registration number of an individual entrepreneur (OGRNIP) - 3

                        Find out more at the link: http://na46.ru/ogrn/
                        © NA46.ru

                        Read the sources and you will be happy Yes

                        Quote: Hypatius
                        The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation was founded by Kolokoltsev for the production of newspapers and other crap

                        Mdya ... and meanwhile, crooks catch themselves. While the Ministry of Internal Affairs publishes newspapers. You have a cool model of reality what wink laughing
                      11. 0
                        25 March 2020 10: 37
                        I look in the book, I see a fig! (cit.) "Information about the person who has the right to act on behalf of the legal entity without a power of attorney ... Kolokoltsov." This is what is called. And the fact of the absence of state symbols. And the insurers of the PSRN of the state institution, by the way. (See picture)
                        You have a cool reality model of what wink laughing
                        Lawyers just do not write anything. ps We are far from the topic here. Happily, until the next argument.
                      12. -1
                        25 March 2020 12: 08
                        Quote: Hypatius
                        "Information about the person who has the right to act on behalf of the legal entity without a power of attorney ... Kolokoltsov." This is what is called

                        And how? wink

                        Just don’t say that the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation is IP Kolokoltsev, don’t Yes

                        Quote: Hypatius
                        And the insurers OGRN state institutions

                        The lesson is not for the future, as they say. There is no such thing as "OGRN of a state institution".

                        Quote: Hypatius
                        Lawyers just do not write anything

                        Yes of course. For your money - any whim (s).

                        Quote: Hypatius
                        I look in the book, I see a fig

                        Well, at least something is right. Not surprisingly, this is generally characteristic of young, clear-eyed wrestlers with a redhead. Over time, though not all pass.
  21. -1
    21 March 2020 17: 06
    .. And maybe in vain we are to them with our standards, in the Eastern Bazaar completely different standards of decency. To give a word and not to restrain, promise and not fulfill, this is not a vice among them, rather dignity. Only here it’s still impossible to pass off stupidity for a delicate calculation. laughing
  22. -1
    21 March 2020 17: 09
    Sheikhs moved away from oil control. And how long have they controlled it? laughing :
  23. -2
    21 March 2020 17: 15
    "In order to regulate world oil prices" Introduce in the newspapers tomorrow: Arabs and Americans have agreed to cut oil production by 4 million barrels per month. In fart then crackle in Runet .. The Kremlin was ordered to pump even more oil. laughing
  24. bar
    +2
    21 March 2020 17: 17
    May you live happily ever after laughing
    I hope the striped Arabs obey better than Russia, and still screw their oil wells. Striped shales need to be saved.
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  26. +1
    21 March 2020 17: 34
    How nice, and human rights in Saudi Arabia are not a hindrance to that, right, the United States?) Congratulations to the "democrats" on the future alliance with the "dictators", they will forget their "ideals" and become "partners." Shame America, the country is a liar.
  27. 0
    21 March 2020 17: 40
    The striped ones have a "good product" and arguments are attached to it. "Greens" plus financial control are many places! They will shove and press wherever they can.
    It will be difficult to resist this ....
    Everything has its limit. Let's see who comes up to him before.
  28. 0
    21 March 2020 18: 14
    According to the publication, the Department of Energy is trying to convince the White House to form an alliance with Saudi Arabia.
    Few apparently Saudi terrorists blew up skyscrapers in the US ......
    1. 0
      21 March 2020 19: 22
      The Saudis openly play against the US oil dominance, whether they will make a deal with them, the question.
  29. 0
    21 March 2020 18: 23
    This is correct: the United States and the KSA are reducing their oil production quotas to maintain the market, "rejected" Russia, the bulwark of totalitarianism, is increasing supplies!
    It remains to wait for the United States and China to agree on the reduction of any classes of missiles, and Russia would not enter into this agreement ...
    Oh, dreams.
    And then usually such nonsense only happened to us ..
  30. 0
    21 March 2020 19: 00
    They do not know about this plan in Riyadh either.

    What for? Enough for this:
    endorsement of this plan by the White House and the US Department of Energy

    Sheriff’s opinion does not interest Riyadh.
    Although, it is not very clear from the article:
    ministry of energy trying to convince the White House to form an alliance with Saudi Arabia.

    and right there:
    But this will only happen if the White House approves this plan. and the leadership of the Ministry of Energy USA

    What is it like? Does the ministry try to convince someone of what it is not yet convinced? what
  31. 0
    21 March 2020 19: 25
    And now the "support" responses of the "brothers": plamen_b

    In 2001, it was still too early for the “eternal president” of Russia after the era of the drunkard Yeltsin. stanislavdi

    The unique ridiculous country that used to copy the political system of the United States has now taken over the Chinese. She was always a cheap copy. In all spheres of their life, an attempt is made to copy ov.vstoyanov

    Keep in mind that these rabid barbarians have the largest arsenal of nuclear missiles. And this news can hardly be called soothing. laughingYes, these minds are whipping right over the edge. Bulgaria and Russia were saved from the Turks by defeating them under Plevna and Shipka, as well as directly locomotive of the EU and democracy. It’s funny not only the army or anything else. The country of poor people living on handouts teaches others .
  32. +1
    21 March 2020 20: 12
    The United States finally realized that the world is a collective place and that it would be good to live, all the same, it is necessary to negotiate with someone! ... but so far it has not reached anyone bully Saudis for a full-fledged oil agreement is clearly not enough, in this case it is necessary to think for at least three drinks
  33. +1
    22 March 2020 10: 27
    The United States can create an alliance with Saudi Arabia to regulate world oil prices.

    That’s what I said yesterday, but the girls of the Urya-Patriotochka got me angry, now eat, don’t hang on.
    And know, brains in a store are not for sale.
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