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The first IL-76MD-90A built this year took off in Ulyanovsk

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The first IL-76MD-90A built this year took off in Ulyanovsk

The first military transport aircraft Il-76MD-90A built this year on the Aviastar-SP JSC took off in Ulyanovsk. According to the press service of the enterprise, this is the first IL-76MD-90A, launched into the air in 2020.


As previously reported, last year Aviastar-SP transferred three military transport aircraft Il-76MD-90A to the BTA of the Russian Aerospace Forces, of which only one was built during 2019, and two were built in 2018 with a transfer in 2019. It was reported that the delivery of two of the five planned to be transferred in 2019 military transport aircraft Il-76MD-90A was postponed to 2020. The delay is due to the untimely receipt of components from the enterprises of cooperation.

Thus, we can confidently say that one of the two Il-76MD-90As, whose transmission was postponed this year, took off. By the way, last year Ilyushin was assured that both Ila will be delivered in the first quarter of this year. In addition, in 2020, Ilyushin is to transfer another six Il-76MD-90A to the Ministry of Defense.

In total, the Russian military department plans to purchase more than 2030 IL-100MD-76A and promising IL-90MD-78A tankers created on their basis by 90.

The heavy military transport IL-76MD-90A is a profound modernization of the IL-76MD aircraft. The new IL-76MD-90A, unlike the drill IL-76MD, is equipped with PS-90A-76 engines with a thrust of up to 14,5 tons instead of the "standard" D-30KP2 with a thrust of up to 12 tons. The aircraft received a new wing and a “glass” cockpit: the gauges were replaced by instruments with LCD displays. At IL-76MD-90A, the carrying capacity increased to 60 tons and the range of delivery of troops and cargo - up to 5000 km.
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  1. China
    China 21 March 2020 12: 37 New
    -25
    Is there even a toilet in IL-76MD-90A?
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 21 March 2020 12: 51 New
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      Quote: China
      Is there even a toilet in IL-76MD-90A?

      Who is talking about what, but lousy about the bath. Are you having trouble urinating and defecating? Then stay away from aviation. As the saying goes - "Such people are not taken as astronauts" hi
      1. China
        China 21 March 2020 12: 55 New
        -14
        So already there is latrine or cost a high-tech nano-bucket to replace galvanization?
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 21 March 2020 13: 12 New
          -3
          Quote: China
          So already there is latrine or cost a high-tech nano-bucket to replace galvanization?

          How does the toilet topic concern you? You see nothing more. Are you experiencing problems in this regard?

          For a long time there are dry closets. But such anxious 3acrants on board nothing to do.
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        2. orionvitt
          orionvitt 21 March 2020 20: 22 New
          +2
          Maybe a couple of rolls of toilet paper? Mandatory. Otherwise, the plane will not fly. laughing
      2. Berkut154
        Berkut154 21 March 2020 13: 31 New
        16
        Try to spend 6 hours in flight without a toilet. Especially if you fly overnight and drink cups of coffee. The question is fair. Its presence will simplify the life of the crew.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 21 March 2020 13: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: Berkut154
          Try to spend 6 hours in flight without a toilet. Especially if you fly overnight and drink cups of coffee. The question is fair. Its presence will simplify the life of the crew.

          On board each crew member has a container called a urinal. Or do you need a public toilet tiled and granny at the checkout?
          1. Berkut154
            Berkut154 21 March 2020 13: 55 New
            +6
            Where is it ? At 76 ????
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 21 March 2020 14: 07 New
              +2
              Quote: Berkut154
              Where is it ? At 76 ????

              On the Tu-95, and it has a longer flight duration.
              1. Berkut154
                Berkut154 21 March 2020 14: 18 New
                +6
                We are talking about the transporter) there, too, people serve performing combat missions. By the way, this is not only about the full-time crew, often accompanying either the military or from industry fly with cargo. This is usually from one to 20 people ...
                1. Berkut154
                  Berkut154 21 March 2020 14: 22 New
                  +5
                  I mean, don’t accumulate on all the bottles .... passengers, as a rule, don’t know at all what they should be taken, but if they took it, they will spill it in a bolt or tighten it up and put it loose and it will fall and everything will flow out of it, then the driver will gets tired of doing tidy))))) it’s easier to build a normal latrine.
                2. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 21 March 2020 15: 07 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Berkut154
                  By the way, this is not only about the full-time crew, often accompanying either the military or from industry fly with cargo. This is usually from one to 20 people.

                  When I had to make long flights of 6-8 hours on the old An-12, I took my regular urinal with the Tu-95 with me on a flight. By the way, I have never used it. So until the end of the service and remained brand new.
        2. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 21 March 2020 15: 58 New
          +3
          Instead of coffee, there are things that do not require frequent use of the toilet. And in general, who flew the An-12, for the 76th - the dream of a lifetime.
          1. cost
            cost 21 March 2020 19: 26 New
            +2
            Termi NahTer (Nikolai):Instead of coffee for pilots, there are things that do not require frequent visits to the toilet

            Father, and he served on the Il-76, brought energy chocolate "Cola" from the service. They were given it either in standard tiles or in round flat metal jars. Interestingly, it was written on the packaging - it is forbidden to give to children, but we cracked it for a sweet soul smile
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 22 March 2020 03: 46 New
              +6
              Dmitriy hi And I once had a chance to have a bite (to the whisper of my father - this is "War chocolate") a piece cut off from an unseen earlier tile. Size - about a baking sheet of a 4-burner stove and 3-4 cm thick. I was surprised not by the taste, but by the size. good
              1. cost
                cost 22 March 2020 05: 30 New
                -1
                Greetings, Sergey.
                isn’t it by chance?

                And my Ivanovo classmate's mother worked at a confectionery factory. Where the famous "bird's milk" was produced. Unfortunately, I don't remember what it was called. He brought clean chocolate three fingers thick to school. We pricked, divided and ate it with the whole class. smile
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 22 March 2020 05: 53 New
                  +4
                  No, there was a tray-sized tile. Maybe a semi-finished product? And the factory is called Krasnaya Zarya, and it still works. True, "Bird's Milk" does not produce in that hypostasis. The soufflé is now only white, before there was also yellow (lemon) and brown (chocolate) in one box. It was always interesting - which one comes across. wink yes
                2. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 22 March 2020 06: 00 New
                  +4
                  Here it is after reconstruction

                  And this is a general view
                  1. cost
                    cost 22 March 2020 06: 25 New
                    -2
                    On March 8, my son presented a mouth-front box of bird milk with the inscription "present" to his wife. And I tell him that only Ivanovo made the real "bird's milk" in the union. The recipe for these sweets was given to them by Polish confectioners from the sister city of Lodz in 1967.
                    These are real
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 22 March 2020 06: 30 New
                      +4
                      So. yes And it is in these boxes. good And here is the cinema "Lodz". It still works.
                3. Chaldon48
                  Chaldon48 April 9 2020 09: 31 New
                  0
                  Anyone who has visited Argentina or Latin America in general, I mean more than one day’s journey, he knows that such chocolate, only not round but shaped like a regular one, only 2 cm thick. You can buy 12 by 30 cm in the most ordinary store in Argentina in 2017 such a tile. It cost 100 pesos.
        3. Den717
          Den717 22 March 2020 08: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Berkut154
          The question is fair.

          Isn’t it easier to open the plane’s drawing and find the answer to the question yourself than to show the inability to elementary search for information of interest? what
      3. NordUral
        NordUral 21 March 2020 14: 21 New
        +1
        As they say - "Such people are not taken as astronauts"
        - a little adjusted, Piramidon.
        And yet - the bucket, of course, will replace everything.
      4. Talgat 148
        Talgat 148 21 March 2020 15: 46 New
        +3
        But what if a company of fighters across the country from the Far East is thrown aboard !? Tolerate, as always, in a plastic bottle, in a bucket! Well, the normal question was asked why scam !?
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 21 March 2020 19: 54 New
          +1
          Throughout the country, the 76th without landing will not fly. This means that there will be landings for refueling, it will be possible to feed the company and bring it to the toilet.
    2. China
      China 21 March 2020 13: 12 New
      -5
      Judging by the minuses, the inhabitants of VO believe that the IL76 is equipped with a toilet ... Sad ignorance.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 21 March 2020 13: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: China
        Judging by the minuses, the inhabitants of VO believe that the IL76 is equipped with a toilet ... Sad ignorance.

        Wow, you are blaspheming. No stationary toilets are enough. How long have you been flying, a connoisseur of aviation?
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          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 21 March 2020 16: 00 New
            +1
            To each his own - to whom to fly, and to whom to fly. The second excites you more. What are you doing here, comrade ordinary - suffering from diarrhea
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    3. Orkraider
      Orkraider 21 March 2020 13: 50 New
      13
      Quote: China
      Is there even a toilet in IL-76MD-90A?


      Of course)))
      We go here:



      And we see:


      After which we understand that there is a toilet, there is no queue, no money is taken, but we must be careful wink wink
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    5. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 21 March 2020 19: 15 New
      +4
      Quote: China
      Is there even a toilet in IL-76MD-90A?



      https://vpk.name/news/92211_v_rossii_sozdali_pervyi_desantnyi_samolet_s_tualetom.html


      Russian paratroopers will no longer have problems with the toilet during training or combat missions. The new Russian landing aircraft Il-76MD-90A, better known as the "Il-476 project," was equipped with a full toilet cabin with a toilet and a washstand.
    6. Alexander Sosnitsky
      Alexander Sosnitsky 21 March 2020 22: 56 New
      0
      The more oaks in the army, the stronger our defense. What other toilets are you talking about? Why do you need a piece of paper? All wheel controls smell. But seriously, incomparable honor and respect, admiration for the real heroes-aviators!
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    8. Shuttle
      Shuttle 22 March 2020 08: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: China
      Is there even a toilet in IL-76MD-90A?

      Uzbagoyza. There is.
      https://iz.ru/news/552686
  2. Fast_mutant
    Fast_mutant 21 March 2020 12: 38 New
    11
    As an engineer (not a specialist in aviation, but simply an electronic engineer), I believe that the vitality of a "glass" cockpit is multiples of individual devices. In the event of a breakdown of one device, only its information disappears. In the event of a panel breakdown, a whole group of readings disappears. Is not it? And the survivability of the device, kmk, is much higher than the survivability of the panel. Can someone explain the benefits of replacing those in the subject? well, except for a penny gain in weight. That's really interesting.
    1. iouris
      iouris 21 March 2020 12: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: Fast_mutant
      in case of failure of one device

      The engineer is obliged to use the terms of the "Reliability in Engineering" standard. There are concepts of "malfunction" and "failure". There is no concept of "breakdown". It is the girls who break, not the devices.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 21 March 2020 12: 55 New
      +4
      Maybe there is not only duplication of equipment, but also its increased protection not only from impacts, but also from fragments, and channel spacing for better security! So, breaking a pair of despleys is unpleasant, but not critical!
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 21 March 2020 13: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Fast_mutant
      As an engineer (not a specialist in aviation, but simply an electronic engineer), I believe that the vitality of a "glass" cockpit is multiples of individual devices. In the event of a breakdown of one device, only its information disappears. In the event of a panel breakdown, a whole group of readings disappears. Is not it? And the survivability of the device, kmk, is much higher than the survivability of the panel. Can someone explain the benefits of replacing those in the subject? well, except for a penny gain in weight. That's really interesting.

      I completely agree with you. Conventional arrow devices were duplicated many times, they did not have any electronic glitches (only mechanical breakdowns). Each crew member had the main instruments - speed and altitude indicators, and the RPM system was duplicated. And now it turns out, as with my old Soviet magnetic radio "Romance" - a power trance or ULF flew and I lost both the tape recorder, and the receiver, and the player.
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 21 March 2020 20: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Piramidon
        And now it turns out, as with my old Soviet radio tape recorder "Romance"

        Wrong. If such "old Soviet radio tape recorders" Romance "were on airplanes, then there would be at least three" power transformers ", or" ULF ".
      2. Svarog51
        Svarog51 22 March 2020 03: 57 New
        +7
        What do you need to do with her to burn out the trance? I had a portable "Romantic-304" with a network BP-12-5. It was dropped in the New Year and switched to 127V without looking, there was such an opportunity. He began to warm up - shoved into the open window. I spent the whole night without interruption, I only noticed and corrected it by the evening of January 1st. No consequences. The safety factor has worked.
      3. iouris
        iouris 22 March 2020 11: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: Piramidon
        Conventional switches have been duplicated many times

        Have you at least seen the cockpit of the aircraft of the 3rd and 4th generations with "dial gauges"? There is simply no room for duplication. Some important in-cockpit indicators had to be placed in an area of ​​poor visibility. In addition, analog "mechanical devices" have a high cost, unsatisfactory weight and size characteristics and low reliability (yes, Karl, low), so "digitalization" was carried out. Only "digital" provides the possibility of 3 ... 4-fold redundancy while reducing the total weight and cost of equipment. At the same time, multifunctional digital displays provide flexibility in informing the crew, depending on the flight task being solved. Digital systems are easier to maintain and upgrade. However, you need to have access to advanced production technologies (well, one deputy prime minister promised to solve this problem, he probably solved it).
        The only question is resistance to the damaging factors of nuclear weapons.
    4. orionvitt
      orionvitt 21 March 2020 20: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: Fast_mutant
      In the event of a panel breakdown - a whole group of readings disappears.

      Didn’t you hear that in aviation there is such a thing as duplication? One panel fails, then the second pilot, the second will be operational.
    5. Joker62
      Joker62 22 March 2020 05: 53 New
      0
      For aviation and astronautics, a double reserve is used. If the main system fails, which automatically or manually, depending on the complexity of the product, switches to the backup, i.e. to the emergency bus. It is always duplicated in order to save the car from the death of the crew and cargo.
  3. rudolff
    rudolff 21 March 2020 12: 43 New
    +6
    Nobody knows, was the landing of equipment with IL-76MD-90A at least once?
    1. iouris
      iouris 21 March 2020 12: 53 New
      +1
      And the technical task provided for the possibility of landing?
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 21 March 2020 12: 59 New
        +8
        I do not know. If it goes like the main aircraft in the BTA, including the replacement of the MD, then in theory it should drop. I just remember that there were complaints about the first take-off car, and then immediately a contract for almost 40 boards.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 21 March 2020 13: 58 New
          +7
          My regards ! hi I'm not an aviator, but does IL-76 seem to have an airborne transport board?
          1. rudolff
            rudolff 21 March 2020 14: 20 New
            +7
            Yes, I am also from another element. Just interesting, and friends in the BTA were. Now the main machine of the BTA is the IL-76MD. Yes, he normally drops people through the side doors and equipment through the cargo ramp. And the first instance of the IL-76MD-90A had claims, including in terms of landing. Something there is either connected with the ramp or with additional equipment. I don’t remember the details.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 21 March 2020 14: 25 New
              +7
              Hopefully all issues have been fixed. I didn't start from the ramp, only through the side ramp ... And not from Ila, but from "Annushka" or Mishka.
              1. rudolff
                rudolff 21 March 2020 14: 36 New
                +4
                By the way, earlier on the 76th the landing was also thrown through the cargo ramp in one or two streams, plus through the side. And now only through the side, they refused from the ramp. Why dont know.
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 21 March 2020 14: 45 New
                  +4
                  A neighbor from the DShB from the ramp had experience. But it was a long time ago, even under the USSR.
                2. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 21 March 2020 15: 02 New
                  +8
                  Quote: rudolff
                  And now only through the side, they refused from the ramp. Why dont know.

                  They justify with frequent overlaps.
        2. Malyuta
          Malyuta 21 March 2020 14: 29 New
          +6
          Quote: rudolff
          I just remember that there were complaints about the first take-off car, and then immediately a contract for almost 40 boards.

          Comrade, I can’t understand in any way how, judging by the article, the Ministry of Defense was going to buy more than a hundred boards by 2030, if the output is 2 units per year?
          Local residents of Ulyanovsk say that the local aircraft plant "lies on its side" and breathes poorly, and 2 sides for the VTA are a drop in the sea. Sadness ...
          1. rudolff
            rudolff 21 March 2020 14: 39 New
            +3
            Two cars, this is the duty of last year. Plus six cars plan for the current. As a result, if there are no transfers, eight cars.
            1. rudolff
              rudolff 21 March 2020 14: 43 New
              +5
              But the load is still large. They also go to the VTA, both as AWACS, and as tankers. Therefore, I wrote below that it is a pity that the tanker project based on the IL-96 did not go. It would be simpler to the plant, and as a tanker, the IL-96 is preferable.
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 21 March 2020 14: 58 New
                +6
                Quote: rudolff
                Therefore, I wrote below that it is a pity that the tanker project based on the IL-96 did not go. It would be simpler to the plant, and as a tanker, the IL-96 is preferable.

                I agree, but the BTA just suffocates from a lack of boards, Trishkin Kaftan is all called. hi
          2. Dart2027
            Dart2027 21 March 2020 15: 29 New
            -1
            Quote: Malyuta
            Local residents of Ulyanovsk say that the local aircraft plant "lies on its side" and breathes poorly

            The only way to restore production is to produce. This is commonplace, but nothing else can be invented. Well, how much will be produced by 2030 in 2030 and it will be necessary to discuss, maybe 100, maybe less.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 21 March 2020 20: 39 New
      +1
      The possibility of landing personnel and military equipment is a prerequisite for military transport aircraft.
  4. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 21 March 2020 12: 49 New
    +8
    It's nice to read news from the Russian Federation about new take-off planes! Suppose, so far not as much as we would like, but the road will overpower the walking one!
  5. kapitan92
    kapitan92 21 March 2020 12: 51 New
    +7
    In total, the Russian military department plans to purchase until 2030 over 100 IL-76MD-90A and promising Il-78MD-90A tankers created on their basis.

    To do this, at least double the annual construction program of IL 76MD-90A!
    1. iouris
      iouris 21 March 2020 14: 30 New
      0
      Quote: kapitan92
      To do this, at least double the annual construction program of IL 76MD-90A!

      Who needs? Who needs it, let it increase (if possible, in principle). Anyone interested can look for different versions of the production program of this aircraft, which were published after 1991.
  6. lucul
    lucul 21 March 2020 13: 11 New
    -2
    The aircraft received a new wing and a "glass" cockpit: the dial gauges were replaced by LCD displays.

    If during World War II, duralumin was the most high-tech material for aircraft construction, and aircraft built from it received a strong advantage. Now, such a material is composites, and the more composites on the plane, the greater gain in weight we get. We need to develop this industry with us.
    1. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 15: 54 New
      +1
      The most high-tech material in WWII was wood. Yes, and now too. Composites are just a very low-tech material.
    2. Rzzz
      Rzzz 22 March 2020 22: 44 New
      0
      Quote: lucul
      the more composites on the plane, the greater the gain in weight we get.

      Composites are not an unambiguous plus, there are also negative sides.
      For example, the limited life of composite parts. Flying 50 years, like the An-12, a plastic plane does not fly, his wings will fall off.
    3. Protos
      Protos 25 March 2020 23: 03 New
      0
      Quote: lucul
      The aircraft received a new wing and a "glass" cockpit: the dial gauges were replaced by LCD displays.

      If during World War II, duralumin was the most high-tech material for aircraft construction, and aircraft built from it received a strong advantage. Now, such a material is composites, and the more composites on the plane, the greater gain in weight we get. We need to develop this industry with us.

      The most technologically advanced material of the Second World War was deltadrevesin yes
  7. Pavel57
    Pavel57 21 March 2020 13: 25 New
    0
    It would be nice to expand the fuselage, but this is a new smolzhet.
    1. Genry
      Genry 21 March 2020 15: 15 New
      -1
      Quote: Pavel57
      It would be nice to expand the fuselage

      What for?
      1. Pavel57
        Pavel57 21 March 2020 17: 27 New
        0
        To make loading equipment easier. The Chinese made their counterpart, the S-20, based on a modern view of the volume of cargo carried.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 21 March 2020 20: 43 New
          -2
          Quote: Pavel57
          To make loading equipment easier.

          Across, or what?
          1. Pavel57
            Pavel57 21 March 2020 21: 45 New
            -1
            Exactly, across. Chinese way.
  8. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 21 March 2020 13: 35 New
    -1
    Quote: Man
    I like these transporters, developed back in Soviet times.

    Similarly. I look at him and calm, delightful confidence that he is the best grows in the soul.
  9. Andrey Gurenkov
    Andrey Gurenkov 21 March 2020 13: 44 New
    +1
    and civilian kada? zadolbalo me Boeing-Zhmoinga fly.
  10. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 21 March 2020 14: 04 New
    +2
    The plane is certainly good, but ...
  11. Finn
    Finn 21 March 2020 14: 07 New
    +1
    Il reliable car. No wonder the first board is Il. Of course the other is a bit, but Il.
    1. iouris
      iouris 21 March 2020 14: 41 New
      -2
      Quote: Finn
      Il reliable car.

      So so. This is on "IL", and (conditionally) "United Aircraft Corporation". There are no data on reliability, since they can only be obtained from the results of the experiment, i.e. operation of a sufficiently large number of objects (several dozen) for a "sufficiently long" period of time in various climatic conditions with a "sufficiently large" raid.
      Secondly, "reliability" is a complex property of an object of technology, which, in particular, includes the following (particular) properties of reliability: reliability (the average number of failures per conventional unit of raid), adaptability to maintenance (resource costs for transferring an object from a faulty state in good working order), durability.
  12. rudolff
    rudolff 21 March 2020 14: 23 New
    +5
    It is a pity the project of the tanker based on the IL-96 did not go.
  13. Maks-80
    Maks-80 21 March 2020 14: 53 New
    +1
    In Soviet times, a dozen aircraft were made during the year. And these fifth in five years did
    1. businessv
      businessv 21 March 2020 15: 16 New
      0
      Quote: Maks-80
      In Soviet times, a dozen aircraft were made during the year. And these fifth in five years did

      In the Union, the budget was not cut, but they were personally responsible for their promises, hence the fulfillment. The very name "Aviastar" evokes overseas associations. When will Russian enterprises be Russian, at least in name? I can imagine how many sentences they throw in, like "Marfa & Co" smile
      1. Pavel57
        Pavel57 23 March 2020 09: 35 New
        0
        The Union did not cut the budget, but for their promises were personally responsible, hence the implementation

        Well, not always. For example, Tupolev promised to make the Tu-154 in 70 tons. I didn’t, but Iilushin competed with the line of planes.
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 21 March 2020 15: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Maks-80
      In Soviet times, a dozen aircraft were made during the year.

      Then the adjusted conveyor worked, and now it is being restarted.
      1. iouris
        iouris 21 March 2020 16: 06 New
        -1
        Quote: Dart2027
        Then the adjusted conveyor worked

        in the bread city of Tashkent.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 21 March 2020 16: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: iouris
          in the bread city of Tashkent.

          Do you seriously believe that it was made by Uzbeks? Yes, completely and completely, to the last bolt?
          Firstly, the production of an airplane (ship, nuclear power plant, etc.) is always the work of several industries, and the plant that produces the product itself largely collects it in the body (engines are brought from one counterparty, a control system from another, etc. .), and all this was done all over the USSR.
          Secondly, in the USSR there was a "wonderful" tradition to develop the outskirts by sending Russians there as a highly qualified labor force.
          1. iouris
            iouris 21 March 2020 21: 29 New
            -4
            Quote: Dart2027
            Do you seriously believe that it was made by Uzbeks?

            Walk through the streets of Moscow - Uzbeks do everything.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 21 March 2020 21: 51 New
              +3
              Quote: iouris
              Uzbeks do everything

              Yards sweeping?
    3. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 15: 57 New
      -4
      Did much more, but that's what the union ended remember?
      1. iouris
        iouris 21 March 2020 21: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Sergey Valov
        what union ended remember?

        Do you mean the victory of "family", democracy and liberalism? Are you against it?
        1. Sergey Valov
          Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 23: 40 New
          -1
          I mean the bankruptcy of the system.
    4. iouris
      iouris 21 March 2020 16: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Maks-80
      In Soviet times, a dozen aircraft were made during the year.

      It depends on what kind. Only the Moscow (Lukhovitsy) or Irkutsk plant at the beginning of 1980 produced up to 30 aircraft (per month!) Each, respectively MiG-23 and MiG-27. Therefore, Gaddafi, when France promised to deliver 30 Mirages within 5 years, turned to the USSR, drove oil gold and a month later had as much as he wanted. In September 1982, after a well-known confusion in Lebanon, about a hundred aircraft were delivered to Syria.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 21 March 2020 16: 14 New
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        Quote: iouris
        Only Moscow (Lukhovitsy) or Irkutsk plant in early 1980 produced up to 30 aircraft (per month!) Each, respectively, MiG-23 and MiG-27

        And what for (now) there are so many files in the house? wink
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 21 March 2020 16: 23 New
          +1
          They are trying to restart Mig with Mig35m, which means that it is necessary ..... but something is going on hard.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 21 March 2020 16: 24 New
            -5
            Quote: Zaurbek
            They try to restart the Mig with the Mig35m, which means that you need ...

            Yes, I’m in the know ... but not on the same thing a day ... not a war, yet, chat request
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 21 March 2020 16: 31 New
              +1
              I don’t know with Mig .... they were produced even in the Russian Federation. And with Il, it’s like starting a new one. Thinking of PS90 manufacturers making 400 turbojet engines up to 30 years is no easy task.
          2. Joker62
            Joker62 22 March 2020 06: 14 New
            +1
            It is not so easy to launch into the production process from scratch, especially a new product like the MiG-35 - everything depends on both components and personnel. With the latter, it’s just a misfortune, young people are not willing to go, everyone cites a small salary, plus there are still very few competent specialists in all areas - from fuselage specialists to electricians and electronics engineers. More white collar workers than car assemblers.
      2. Sergey Valov
        Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 16: 23 New
        +2
        Irkutsk produced much less, but the Banner of Labor really, pitch 23 like pies, he himself put a little work into this madness. And Lukhovitsy was only a branch doing wing and plumage.
    5. Piramidon
      Piramidon 21 March 2020 20: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Maks-80
      In Soviet times, a dozen aircraft were made during the year.

      Here everyone is advocating an increase in aircraft production. Who will fly them? The "production" of pilots was cut more than the production of aircraft.
    6. Joker62
      Joker62 22 March 2020 06: 06 New
      0
      And you wanted when there was wahanalia privatization of enterprises at the mercy of the nouveau riche? And plus the breaks in all ties of suppliers of components for aviation, especially for aircraft manufacturers.
      I myself am an aircraft manufacturer, and I know what the shortages of components are. Hence the shifts to the right. This is the first. Second, the machine itself does not stand still during construction at the factory site, often there are improvements and changes both in design and in general in terms of requirements of military customers. The same picture is in civil aviation, it is even tougher, according to the standards of MAKS, if I am not mistaken.
  14. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 21 March 2020 15: 10 New
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    only one was built during 2019

    One a year.
    The agency plans to purchase, by 2030, more than 100 IL-76MD-90A and promising tankers Il-78MD-90A created on their basis.

    It will be hard ...
    1. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 16: 24 New
      -1
      It would be a desire, power allow.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 21 March 2020 16: 39 New
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        Quote: Sergey Valov
        It would be a desire, power allow.

        Well, Duc, I - only "for"! But with the current state of affairs (1 piece per year) the range of 100 pieces in 10 years will be difficult. And in money and in people, specialists.
        1. Sergey Valov
          Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 16: 44 New
          0
          I suspect that the matter is not even in money and in technological equipment. The problem is people, specialists of all levels - from the worker to the director of the plant. Moreover, the greatest horror is observed in the upper echelon, where there are too many "effective managers" who saw the plane only in the picture.
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 21 March 2020 17: 29 New
            +1
            Quote: Sergey Valov
            The problem is in people, specialists at all levels

            Well, I, actually, about that.
            Quote: Sergey Valov
            Moreover, the greatest horror is observed in the upper echelon,

            Is not a fact. The old hard workers are leaving, but who prepares the youth? ProfTehUchilischa - yok ... Everyone in "effective managers" and system administrators are torn, nobody wants to turn the nuts. And then suddenly a sharp increase in the intensity of order fulfillment! What was shouted about at the beginning of the century during the final collapse of industry, they came to that. From a lack of orderlies to a lack of locksmiths ... recourse
            1. Sergey Valov
              Sergey Valov 22 March 2020 02: 06 New
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              It’s not very difficult to teach “twist nuts”, but how to teach industry specifics?
  15. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 21 March 2020 16: 21 New
    +1
    And they wrote about the modernization of the IL76do a modern level with the replacement of avionics and turbojet engines. What is the state of the program? And is there a development of the PS90 program? Or is it a dead end?
  16. borys
    borys 21 March 2020 16: 27 New
    +2
    On the issue of production rates under the "evil Bolsheviks". The best
    times (mid-80s) TAPOiCh handed over at least 60 aircraft per year.
    In total, over 900 aircraft of this type were produced at this plant.
    type of all modifications.
    1. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 16: 32 New
      +1
      So there is also a wing for the An-124 managed to do.
  17. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 21 March 2020 16: 52 New
    0
    They are very slow to build, but of course it's better than nothing.
    1. iouris
      iouris 21 March 2020 22: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Alexey from Perm
      it's better than nothing.

      High production means high quality (and reliability) and high export potential at low cost. This means that there are many qualified engineers and workers in the country, there are orders for suppliers of components. And vice versa.
      1. Alexey from Perm
        Alexey from Perm 21 March 2020 23: 09 New
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        logical and sad
        1. iouris
          iouris 22 March 2020 11: 28 New
          -1
          I have given not facts, but "general provisions", which are confirmed by practice. These positions cannot evoke any emotion.
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  19. Vadim Persisti
    Vadim Persisti 22 March 2020 16: 29 New
    +1
    If you don’t like the car, it doesn’t mean that you need to beat it at least with something in the first silts, they put buckets and new ones have a toilet bowl like in GA salads. It was not provided there because they cannot be installed on the ramp and there is no room for it in the cabin.
  20. Protos
    Protos 22 March 2020 18: 40 New
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    Quote: iouris
    The only question is resistance to the damaging factors of nuclear weapons.

    Normal stability, the body is shielded there, and the front glass with a sprayed metal mesh! yes
    We made this topic back in 2003. soldier
    1. iouris
      iouris 22 March 2020 22: 27 New
      -2
      I believe you. However, for my part, I cannot but notice that such properties of aviation technology are only certified by the results of nuclear test explosions. They have not been held for a very long time. When I was little, there was no television, but the newspapers reported almost every day about the conduct of nuclear explosions in the region of Semipalatinsk. Where is this place?
  21. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 23 March 2020 19: 48 New
    0
    beautiful, I was there (workshops measured in kilometers), the specialists are super, if the plant is not in the New City, then Ulyanovsk is booming!
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  23. Protos
    Protos 25 March 2020 22: 59 New
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    Quote: iouris
    I believe you. However, for my part, I cannot but notice that such properties of aviation technology are only certified by the results of nuclear test explosions. Where is this place?

    There are special laboratories where the electromagnetic spectrum and the shock wave of a nuclear explosion are simulated!
    If you really want to, you can find a program about this laboratory on Zvezda! hi