The first IL-76MD-90A built this year took off in Ulyanovsk

The first IL-76MD-90A built this year took off in Ulyanovsk

The first military transport aircraft Il-76MD-90A built this year on the Aviastar-SP JSC took off in Ulyanovsk. According to the press service of the enterprise, this is the first IL-76MD-90A, launched into the air in 2020.


As previously reported, last year Aviastar-SP transferred three military transport aircraft Il-76MD-90A to the BTA of the Russian Aerospace Forces, of which only one was built during 2019, and two were built in 2018 with a transfer in 2019. It was reported that the delivery of two of the five planned to be transferred in 2019 military transport aircraft Il-76MD-90A was postponed to 2020. The delay is due to the untimely receipt of components from the enterprises of cooperation.

Thus, we can confidently say that one of the two Il-76MD-90As, whose transmission was postponed this year, took off. By the way, last year Ilyushin was assured that both Ila will be delivered in the first quarter of this year. In addition, in 2020, Ilyushin is to transfer another six Il-76MD-90A to the Ministry of Defense.

In total, the Russian military department plans to purchase more than 2030 IL-100MD-76A and promising IL-90MD-78A tankers created on their basis by 90.

The heavy military transport IL-76MD-90A is a profound modernization of the IL-76MD aircraft. The new IL-76MD-90A, unlike the drill IL-76MD, is equipped with PS-90A-76 engines with a thrust of up to 14,5 tons instead of the "standard" D-30KP2 with a thrust of up to 12 tons. The aircraft received a new wing and a “glass” cockpit: the gauges were replaced by instruments with LCD displays. At IL-76MD-90A, the carrying capacity increased to 60 tons and the range of delivery of troops and cargo - up to 5000 km.
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  1. China 21 March 2020 12: 37 New
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    Is there even a toilet in IL-76MD-90A?
    1. Piramidon 21 March 2020 12: 51 New
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      Quote: China
      Is there even a toilet in IL-76MD-90A?

      Who about what, and lousy about the bath. Do you have trouble urinating and defecating? Then stay away from aviation. As they say - "They don’t take such astronauts" hi
      1. China 21 March 2020 12: 55 New
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        So already there is latrine or cost a high-tech nano-bucket to replace galvanization?
        1. Piramidon 21 March 2020 13: 12 New
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          Quote: China
          So already there is latrine or cost a high-tech nano-bucket to replace galvanization?

          How does the toilet topic concern you? You see nothing more. Are you experiencing problems in this regard?

          For a long time there are dry closets. But such anxious 3acrants on board nothing to do.
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        2. orionvitt 21 March 2020 20: 22 New
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          Maybe a couple of rolls of toilet paper? Mandatory. Otherwise, the plane will not fly. laughing
      2. Berkut154 21 March 2020 13: 31 New
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        Try to spend 6 hours in flight without a toilet. Especially if you fly overnight and drink cups of coffee. The question is fair. Its presence will simplify the life of the crew.
        1. Piramidon 21 March 2020 13: 36 New
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          Quote: Berkut154
          Try to spend 6 hours in flight without a toilet. Especially if you fly overnight and drink cups of coffee. The question is fair. Its presence will simplify the life of the crew.

          On board, each crew member has a tank called a urinal. Or do you need a public toilet, tiled and granny at the checkout?
          1. Berkut154 21 March 2020 13: 55 New
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            Where is it ? At 76 ????
            1. Piramidon 21 March 2020 14: 07 New
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              Quote: Berkut154
              Where is it ? At 76 ????

              On the Tu-95, and it has a longer flight duration.
              1. Berkut154 21 March 2020 14: 18 New
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                We are talking about the transporter) there, too, people serve performing combat missions. By the way, this is not only about the full-time crew, often accompanying either the military or from industry fly with cargo. This is usually from one to 20 people ...
                1. Berkut154 21 March 2020 14: 22 New
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                  I mean, don’t accumulate on all the bottles .... passengers, as a rule, don’t know at all what they should be taken, but if they took it, they will spill it in a bolt or tighten it up and put it loose and it will fall and everything will flow out of it, then the driver will gets tired of doing tidy))))) it’s easier to build a normal latrine.
                2. Piramidon 21 March 2020 15: 07 New
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                  Quote: Berkut154
                  By the way, this is not only about the full-time crew, often accompanying either the military or from industry fly with cargo. This is usually from one to 20 people.

                  When I had to make long flights of 6-8 hours on the old An-12, I took my regular urinal with the Tu-95 with me on a flight. By the way, I have never used it. So until the end of the service and remained brand new.
        2. TermNachTer 21 March 2020 15: 58 New
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          Instead of coffee, there are things that do not require frequent use of the toilet. And in general, who flew the An-12, for the 76th - the dream of a lifetime.
          1. rich 21 March 2020 19: 26 New
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            Termi NahTer (Nikolai):Instead of coffee for pilots, there are things that do not require frequent visits to the toilet

            Отец, а он служил на Ил-76, со службы приносил энергетический шоколад "Кола". Им выдавали его или в стандартных плитках, или в круглых плоских металлических баночках. Что интересно, на упаковке было написано - детям давать запрещено, но мы трескали его за милую душу smile
            1. Svarog51 22 March 2020 03: 46 New
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              Dmitriy hi And I once had a bite (under the whisper of my father - this is “Military Chocolate”) a piece cut off from an unprecedented tile. Size - with a baking sheet of 4 hot plates and a thickness of 3-4 cm. I was surprised not by taste, but by size. good
              1. rich 22 March 2020 05: 30 New
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                Greetings, Sergey.
                isn’t it by chance?

                And my Ivanov’s classmate’s mother worked at a confectionery factory. Where the famous "bird milk" was released. Unfortunately, I don’t remember what it was called. He brought to school three finger-thick pure chocolate fingers. We pricked, divided and ate it all class. Gorky smile
                1. Svarog51 22 March 2020 05: 53 New
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                  Nah, there was tile the size of a tray. Maybe some kind of semi-finished product? And the factory is called "Red Dawn", it is still working. True, "Bird's milk" in that form does not release. Souffle is now only white, before there was also yellow (lemon) and brown (chocolate) in one box. It was always interesting - which one comes across. wink yes
                2. Svarog51 22 March 2020 06: 00 New
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                  Here it is after reconstruction

                  And this is a general view
                  1. rich 22 March 2020 06: 25 New
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                    Son on March 8, his wife presented the front-front box of bird milk with the inscription "real". And I tell him that the real "bird milk" in the union only Ivanovo did. The recipe for these sweets was passed to them by Polish confectioners from the twin city of Lodz in 1967.
                    These are real
                    1. Svarog51 22 March 2020 06: 30 New
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                      So. yes And it is in these boxes. good And here is the cinema "Lodz". It still works.
                3. Chaldon48 April 9 2020 09: 31 New
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                  Anyone who has visited Argentina or Latin America in general, I mean more than one day’s journey, he knows that such chocolate, only not round but shaped like a regular one, only 2 cm thick. You can buy 12 by 30 cm in the most ordinary store in Argentina in 2017 such a tile. It cost 100 pesos.
        3. Den717 22 March 2020 08: 58 New
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          Quote: Berkut154
          The question is fair.

          Isn’t it easier to open the plane’s drawing and find the answer to the question yourself than to show the inability to elementary search for information of interest? what
      3. NordUral 21 March 2020 14: 21 New
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        As they say - "They don’t take such astronauts"
        - a little adjusted, Piramidon.
        And yet - the bucket, of course, will replace everything.
      4. Talgat 148 21 March 2020 15: 46 New
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        But what if a company of fighters across the country from the Far East is thrown aboard !? Tolerate, as always, in a plastic bottle, in a bucket! Well, the normal question was asked why scam !?
        1. TermNachTer 21 March 2020 19: 54 New
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          Throughout the country, the 76th without landing will not fly. This means that there will be landings for refueling, it will be possible to feed the company and bring it to the toilet.
    2. China 21 March 2020 13: 12 New
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      Judging by the minuses, the inhabitants of VO believe that the IL76 is equipped with a toilet ... Sad ignorance.
      1. Piramidon 21 March 2020 13: 17 New
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        Quote: China
        Judging by the minuses, the inhabitants of VO believe that the IL76 is equipped with a toilet ... Sad ignorance.

        Wow, you are blaspheming. No stationary toilets are enough. How long have you been flying, a connoisseur of aviation?
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          1. Piramidon 21 March 2020 16: 00 New
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            To each his own - to whom to fly, and to whom to fly. The second excites you more. What are you doing here, comrade ordinary - suffering from diarrhea
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    3. Orkraider 21 March 2020 13: 50 New
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      Quote: China
      Is there even a toilet in IL-76MD-90A?


      Of course)))
      We go here:



      And we see:


      After which we understand that there is a toilet, there is no queue, no money is taken, but we must be careful wink wink
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    5. Nikolay Ivanov_5 21 March 2020 19: 15 New
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      Quote: China
      Is there even a toilet in IL-76MD-90A?



      https://vpk.name/news/92211_v_rossii_sozdali_pervyi_desantnyi_samolet_s_tualetom.html


      Russian paratroopers will no longer have problems with the toilet during training or combat missions. The new Russian landing aircraft Il-76MD-90A, better known as the "Il-476 project," was equipped with a full toilet cabin with a toilet and a washstand.
    6. Alexander Sosnitsky 21 March 2020 22: 56 New
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      The more oaks in the army, the stronger our defense. What other toilets are you talking about? Why do you need a piece of paper? All wheel controls smell. But seriously, incomparable honor and respect, admiration for the real heroes-aviators!
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    8. Shuttle 22 March 2020 08: 33 New
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      Quote: China
      Is there even a toilet in IL-76MD-90A?

      Uzbagoyza. There is.
      https://iz.ru/news/552686
  2. Fast_mutant 21 March 2020 12: 38 New
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    As an engineer (not a specialist in aviation, but simply an electronic engineer), I believe that the survivability of a "glass" cabin is inferior to individual devices. In case of failure of one device, only its information is lost. In the event of a panel breakdown - a whole group of readings disappears. Is not it? And the survivability of the device, kmk, is much higher than the survivability of the panel. Can someone explain the benefits of replacing those in the topic? Well, except for a penny gain in weight. That's really interesting.
    1. iouris 21 March 2020 12: 51 New
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      Quote: Fast_mutant
      in case of failure of one device

      The engineer is obliged to use the terms of the standard "Reliability in technology". There are concepts of "malfunction" and "failure." The concept of "breakdown" no. Girls break, not appliances.
    2. Thrifty 21 March 2020 12: 55 New
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      Может быть, там не только дублирование аппаратуры, но и её повышенная защита не только от ударов, но и от осколков, и разнос каналов для лучшей защищенности! Так что , поломка пары десплеев неприятна, но не критична!
    3. Piramidon 21 March 2020 13: 06 New
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      Quote: Fast_mutant
      As an engineer (not a specialist in aviation, but simply an electronic engineer), I believe that the survivability of a "glass" cabin is inferior to individual devices. In case of failure of one device, only its information is lost. In the event of a panel breakdown - a whole group of readings disappears. Is not it? And the survivability of the device, kmk, is much higher than the survivability of the panel. Can someone explain the benefits of replacing those in the topic? Well, except for a penny gain in weight. That's really interesting.

      I completely agree with you. Ordinary switches were duplicated many times, they had no electronic glitches (only mechanical breakdowns). The main instruments - speed and altitude indicators were for each crew member, and the RPM system was duplicated. And now it turns out, like with my old Soviet radio cassette "Romance" - a power trance or ULF flew and I lost both the tape recorder, and the receiver, and the player.
      1. orionvitt 21 March 2020 20: 35 New
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        Quote: Piramidon
        And now it turns out, as with my old Soviet radio cassette "Romance"

        Неверно. Если бы такие "старые советские магниторадиолы "Романтика", стояли на самолётах, то "силовых трансформаторов", или "УНЧ", было бы минимум по три.
      2. Svarog51 22 March 2020 03: 57 New
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        What is it necessary to do with her so that the trance burns out? I had a portable "Romantic-304" with a network BP-12-5. He was dropped on New Year and without looking turned to 127V, there was such an opportunity. He began to bask - shoved into the open window. I spied without interruptions all night, I only noticed and corrected this by the evening of January 1st. No consequences. Safety margin worked.
      3. iouris 22 March 2020 11: 46 New
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        Quote: Piramidon
        Conventional switches have been duplicated many times

        Вы хотя бы кабину самолёта 3-го и 4-го поколения со "стрелочными приборами" видели? Там места для дублирования просто нет. Некоторые важные внутрикабинные индикаторы приходилось размещать в зоне недостаточной видимости. Кроме того, аналоговые "механические приборы" имеют высокую стоимость, неудовлетворительные массогабаритные характеристики и низкую надёжность (да, Карл, низкую), поэтому проведена "цифровизация". Только "цифра" обеспечивает возможность 3...4-кратного резервирования при одновременном снижении общей массы и стоимости оборудования. При этом многофункциональные цифровые индикаторы обеспечивают гибкость информирования экипажа в зависимости от решаемой полётной задачи. Цифровые системы легче обслуживать и модернизировать. Однако нужно иметь доступ к передовым технологиям производства (ну, это проблему один вице-премьер обещал решить, наверное, решил).
        The only question is resistance to the damaging factors of nuclear weapons.
    4. orionvitt 21 March 2020 20: 30 New
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      In the event of a panel breakdown - a whole group of readings disappears.

      Didn’t you hear that in aviation there is such a thing as duplication? One panel fails, then the second pilot, the second will be operational.
    5. Joker62 22 March 2020 05: 53 New
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      For aviation and astronautics, a double reserve is used. If the main system fails, which automatically or manually, depending on the complexity of the product, switches to the backup, i.e. to the emergency bus. It is always duplicated in order to save the car from the death of the crew and cargo.
  3. rudolff 21 March 2020 12: 43 New
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    Nobody knows, was the landing of equipment with IL-76MD-90A at least once?
    1. iouris 21 March 2020 12: 53 New
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      And the technical task provided for the possibility of landing?
      1. rudolff 21 March 2020 12: 59 New
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        I do not know. If it goes like the main aircraft in the BTA, including the replacement of the MD, then in theory it should drop. I just remember that there were complaints about the first take-off car, and then immediately a contract for almost 40 boards.
        1. bouncyhunter 21 March 2020 13: 58 New
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          My regards ! hi I'm not an aviator, but does IL-76 seem to have an airborne transport board?
          1. rudolff 21 March 2020 14: 20 New
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            Yes, I am also from another element. Just interesting, and friends in the BTA were. Now the main machine of the BTA is the IL-76MD. Yes, he normally drops people through the side doors and equipment through the cargo ramp. And the first instance of the IL-76MD-90A had claims, including in terms of landing. Something there is either connected with the ramp or with additional equipment. I don’t remember the details.
            1. bouncyhunter 21 March 2020 14: 25 New
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              I hope all problems are resolved. I didn’t start from the ramp, only through the side ... And not from Ila, but from the Annushka or Mi-shki.
              1. rudolff 21 March 2020 14: 36 New
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                By the way, earlier on the 76th the landing was also thrown through the cargo ramp in one or two streams, plus through the side. And now only through the side, they refused from the ramp. Why dont know.
                1. bouncyhunter 21 March 2020 14: 45 New
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                  A neighbor from the DShB from the ramp had experience. But it was a long time ago, even under the USSR.
                2. Malyuta 21 March 2020 15: 02 New
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                  Quote: rudolff
                  And now only through the side, they refused from the ramp. Why dont know.

                  They justify with frequent overlaps.
        2. Malyuta 21 March 2020 14: 29 New
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          Quote: rudolff
          I just remember that there were complaints about the first take-off car, and then immediately a contract for almost 40 boards.

          Товарищ, я никак понять не могу , как судя по статье, мин.обороны собралось закупить более ста бортов к 2030 , если выпуск состаяляет 2 единицы в год?
          Local Ulyanovsk say that the local aircraft factory "lies on its side" and breathes weakly, and 2 sides for the VTA are a drop in the bucket. Sadness ...
          1. rudolff 21 March 2020 14: 39 New
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            Two cars, this is the duty of last year. Plus six cars plan for the current. As a result, if there are no transfers, eight cars.
            1. rudolff 21 March 2020 14: 43 New
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              But the load is still large. They also go to the VTA, both as AWACS, and as tankers. Therefore, I wrote below that it is a pity that the tanker project based on the IL-96 did not go. It would be simpler to the plant, and as a tanker, the IL-96 is preferable.
              1. Malyuta 21 March 2020 14: 58 New
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                Quote: rudolff
                Therefore, I wrote below that it is a pity that the tanker project based on the IL-96 did not go. It would be simpler to the plant, and as a tanker, the IL-96 is preferable.

                I agree, but the BTA just suffocates from a lack of boards, Trishkin Kaftan is all called. hi
          2. Dart2027 21 March 2020 15: 29 New
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            Quote: Malyuta
            Local Ulyanovsk say that the local aircraft factory "lies on its side" and breathes weakly

            The only way to restore production is to produce. This is commonplace, but nothing else can be invented. Well, how much will be produced by 2030 in 2030 and it will be necessary to discuss, maybe 100, maybe less.
    2. orionvitt 21 March 2020 20: 39 New
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      The possibility of landing personnel and military equipment is a prerequisite for military transport aircraft.
  4. Rusfaner 21 March 2020 12: 49 New
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    It's nice to read news from the Russian Federation about new take-off planes! Suppose, so far not as much as we would like, but the road will overpower the walking one!
  5. kapitan92 21 March 2020 12: 51 New
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    In total, the Russian military department plans to purchase until 2030 over 100 IL-76MD-90A and promising Il-78MD-90A tankers created on their basis.

    To do this, at least double the annual construction program of IL 76MD-90A!
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      Quote: kapitan92
      To do this, at least double the annual construction program of IL 76MD-90A!

      Кому надо? Кому надо тот пусть и увеличивает (если это возможно, в принципе). Кому интересно, может поискать разные варианты производственной программы этого самолёта, которые публиковались после 1991 года.
  6. lucul 21 March 2020 13: 11 New
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    The aircraft received a new wing and a “glass” cockpit: the gauges were replaced by instruments with LCD displays.

    Если во Вторую Мировую войну самым высокотехнологичным материалом для самолётостроения был дюралюминий , и самолёты построенные из него получали неслабое преимущество . То сейчас таким материалом является композиты , и чем больше композитов в самолёте , тем больший выигрыш в весе мы получаем. Нужно развивать эту отрасль у нас .
    1. Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 15: 54 New
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      The most high-tech material in WWII was wood. Yes, and now too. Composites are just a very low-tech material.
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      Quote: lucul
      the more composites on the plane, the greater the gain in weight we get.

      Composites are not an unambiguous plus, there are also negative sides.
      For example, the limited life of composite parts. Flying 50 years, like the An-12, a plastic plane does not fly, his wings will fall off.
    3. Protos 25 March 2020 23: 03 New
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      Quote: lucul
      The aircraft received a new wing and a “glass” cockpit: the gauges were replaced by instruments with LCD displays.

      Если во Вторую Мировую войну самым высокотехнологичным материалом для самолётостроения был дюралюминий , и самолёты построенные из него получали неслабое преимущество . То сейчас таким материалом является композиты , и чем больше композитов в самолёте , тем больший выигрыш в весе мы получаем. Нужно развивать эту отрасль у нас .

      The most technologically advanced material of the Second World War was deltadrevesin yes
  7. Pavel57 21 March 2020 13: 25 New
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    It would be nice to expand the fuselage, but this is a new smolzhet.
    1. Genry 21 March 2020 15: 15 New
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      Quote: Pavel57
      It would be nice to expand the fuselage

      What for?
      1. Pavel57 21 March 2020 17: 27 New
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        To make loading equipment easier. The Chinese made their counterpart, the S-20, based on a modern view of the volume of cargo carried.
        1. Piramidon 21 March 2020 20: 43 New
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          Quote: Pavel57
          To make loading equipment easier.

          Across, or what?
          1. Pavel57 21 March 2020 21: 45 New
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            Exactly, across. Chinese way.
  8. cherkas.oe 21 March 2020 13: 35 New
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    I like these transporters, developed back in Soviet times.

    Similarly. I look at him and calm, delightful confidence that he is the best grows in the soul.
  9. Andrey Gurenkov 21 March 2020 13: 44 New
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    and civilian kada? zadolbalo me Boeing-Zhmoinga fly.
  10. 16112014nk 21 March 2020 14: 04 New
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    The plane is certainly good, but ...
  11. Finn 21 March 2020 14: 07 New
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    Il reliable car. No wonder the first board is Il. Of course the other is a bit, but Il.
    1. iouris 21 March 2020 14: 41 New
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      Quote: Finn
      Il reliable car.

      So it is. This is on "Il", and (conditionally) "United Aircraft Corporation." There is no reliability data, since they can only be obtained from the results of the experiment, i.e. operation of a sufficiently large number of objects (several tens) for a "sufficiently large" period of time in various climatic conditions with a "sufficiently large" raid.
      Secondly, “reliability” is a complex property of an object of technology, which, in particular, includes the following (private) properties of reliability: failure-free (average number of failures per conventional flying unit), adaptability to maintenance (resource costs for transferring an object from a faulty state in good condition), durability.
  12. rudolff 21 March 2020 14: 23 New
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    It is a pity the project of the tanker based on the IL-96 did not go.
  13. Maks-80 21 March 2020 14: 53 New
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    In Soviet times, a dozen aircraft were made during the year. And these fifth in five years did
    1. businessv 21 March 2020 15: 16 New
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      In Soviet times, a dozen aircraft were made during the year. And these fifth in five years did

      The Union did not cut the budget, but for their promises they were personally responsible, hence the implementation. The name “Aviastar” itself evokes overseas associations. When will Russian enterprises be Russian, at least in the name? I can imagine how many schA they are sending offers, such as "Martha & Co" smile
      1. Pavel57 23 March 2020 09: 35 New
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        The Union did not cut the budget, but for their promises were personally responsible, hence the implementation

        Well, not always. For example, Tupolev promised to make the Tu-154 in 70 tons. I didn’t, but Iilushin competed with the line of planes.
    2. Dart2027 21 March 2020 15: 37 New
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      In Soviet times, a dozen aircraft were made during the year.

      Then the adjusted conveyor worked, and now it is being restarted.
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        Then the adjusted conveyor worked

        in the bread city of Tashkent.
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          in the bread city of Tashkent.

          Do you seriously believe that it was made by Uzbeks? Yes, completely and completely, to the last bolt?
          Firstly, the production of an airplane (ship, nuclear power plant, etc.) is always the work of several industries, and the plant that produces the product itself largely collects it in the body (engines are brought from one counterparty, a control system from another, etc. .), and all this was done all over the USSR.
          Secondly, the USSR had a “wonderful” tradition of developing the outskirts by sending Russians there as a highly skilled workforce.
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            Do you seriously believe that it was made by Uzbeks?

            Walk through the streets of Moscow - Uzbeks do everything.
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              Uzbeks do everything

              Yards sweeping?
    3. Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 15: 57 New
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      Did much more, but that's what the union ended remember?
      1. iouris 21 March 2020 21: 31 New
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        what union ended remember?

        Do you mean the victory of "family", democracy and liberalism? Are you against it?
        1. Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 23: 40 New
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          I mean the bankruptcy of the system.
    4. iouris 21 March 2020 16: 06 New
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      In Soviet times, a dozen aircraft were made during the year.

      It depends on what. Only Moscow (Lukhovitsy) or Irkutsk plant in early 1980 produced up to 30 aircraft (per month!) Each, respectively, MiG-23 and MiG-27. Therefore, Gaddafi, when France promised to put 30 Mirages in 5 years, turned to the USSR, adjusted the oil spike and a month later had as much as he wanted. In September 1982, about a hundred aircraft were delivered to Syria after the well-known confusion in Lebanon.
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        Only Moscow (Lukhovitsy) or Irkutsk plant in early 1980 produced up to 30 aircraft (per month!) Each, respectively, MiG-23 and MiG-27

        And what for (now) there are so many files in the house? wink
        1. Zaurbek 21 March 2020 16: 23 New
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          Миг пытаются перезапустить с Миг35м , значит , нужно.....но что то тяжело процесс идет.
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            They try to restart the Mig with the Mig35m, which means that you need ...

            Yes, I’m in the know ... but not on the same thing a day ... not a war, yet, chat request
            1. Zaurbek 21 March 2020 16: 31 New
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              С Миг не знаю....их хоть в РФ и производили. А с Илом , все равно, что новый запускать. Думая и у производителей ПС90 сделать 400 ТРД до 30года задача не из лёгких.
          2. Joker62 22 March 2020 06: 14 New
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            To launch into the production process from scratch, especially a new product like the MiG-35, is not so simple - everything depends on both components and personnel. With the latter, it’s just a disaster, young people are not willing to, everyone refers to a small salary, plus very few competent specialists in all areas - from fuselage specialists to electricians and electronics engineers. Most white-collar workers than machine-builders.
      2. Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 16: 23 New
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        Irkutsk produced much less, but the Banner of Labor really, pitch 23 like pies, he himself put a little work into this madness. And Lukhovitsy was only a branch doing wing and plumage.
    5. Piramidon 21 March 2020 20: 51 New
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      In Soviet times, a dozen aircraft were made during the year.

      Here, everyone advocates an increase in aircraft production. And who will fly on them? The “production” of pilots was reduced more than the production of aircraft.
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      And you wanted when there was wahanalia privatization of enterprises at the mercy of the nouveau riche? And plus the breaks in all ties of suppliers of components for aviation, especially for aircraft manufacturers.
      I myself am an aircraft manufacturer, and I know what the shortages of components are. Hence the shifts to the right. This is the first. Second, the machine itself does not stand still during construction at the factory site, often there are improvements and changes both in design and in general in terms of requirements of military customers. The same picture is in civil aviation, it is even tougher, according to the standards of MAKS, if I am not mistaken.
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    only one was built during 2019

    One a year.
    The agency plans to purchase, by 2030, more than 100 IL-76MD-90A and promising tankers Il-78MD-90A created on their basis.

    It will be hard ...
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      It would be a desire, power allow.
      1. Vasyan1971 21 March 2020 16: 39 New
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        It would be a desire, power allow.

        Well, Duc, I'm just for it! But with the current state of affairs (1 pc. Per year), a span of 100 pieces in 10 years will be hard. Both in money and in people experts.
        1. Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 16: 44 New
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          Подозреваю, что дело даже в деньгах и не в технологическом оборудовании. Проблема в людях, специалистах всех уровней - от рабочего до директора завода. Причём наибольший ужас наблюдается в верхнем эшелоне, где слишком много «эффективных менеджеров» видевших самолёт только на картинке.
          1. Vasyan1971 21 March 2020 17: 29 New
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            The problem is in people, specialists at all levels

            Well, I, actually, about that.
            Quote: Sergey Valov
            Moreover, the greatest horror is observed in the upper echelon,

            Is not a fact. Old hard workers leave, and who cooks the youth? ProfTech Schools - youk ... Everyone in the "effective managers" and system administrators are torn, no one wants to twist the nuts. And then suddenly a sharp increase in the intensity of the execution of orders! What they shouted at the beginning of the century during the final collapse of industry, they came to that. From the lack of orderlies to the lack of locksmiths ... recourse
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              It’s not very difficult to teach “twist nuts”, but how to teach industry specifics?
  15. Zaurbek 21 March 2020 16: 21 New
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    А еще писали про модернизацию Ил76до современного уровня с заменой БРЭО и ТРД. В каком состоянии программа? И есть ли развитие программы ПС90? Или это тупиковая ветка?
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    К вопросу о темпах производства при "злых большевиках". В лучшие
    times (mid-80s) TAPOiCh handed over at least 60 aircraft per year.
    In total, over 900 aircraft of this type were produced at this plant.
    type of all modifications.
    1. Sergey Valov 21 March 2020 16: 32 New
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      So there is also a wing for the An-124 managed to do.
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    They are very slow to build, but of course it's better than nothing.
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      it's better than nothing.

      High production means high quality (and reliability) and high export potential at low cost. This means that there are many qualified engineers and workers in the country, there are orders for suppliers of components. And vice versa.
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        logical and sad
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          My facts are not given, but "general provisions", which are confirmed by practice. These positions cannot evoke any emotion.
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    If you don’t like the car, it doesn’t mean that you need to beat it at least with something in the first silts, they put buckets and new ones have a toilet bowl like in GA salads. It was not provided there because they cannot be installed on the ramp and there is no room for it in the cabin.
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    The only question is resistance to the damaging factors of nuclear weapons.

    Normal stability, the body is shielded there, and the front glass with a sprayed metal mesh! yes
    We made this topic back in 2003. soldier
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      I believe you. However, for my part, I cannot but notice that such properties of aviation technology are only certified by the results of nuclear test explosions. They have not been held for a very long time. When I was little, there was no television, but the newspapers reported almost every day about the conduct of nuclear explosions in the region of Semipalatinsk. Where is this place?
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    beautiful, I was there (workshops measured in kilometers), the specialists are super, if the plant is not in the New City, then Ulyanovsk is booming!
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  23. Protos 25 March 2020 22: 59 New
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    Я Вам верю. Однако со своей стороны не могу не заметить, что такие свойства авиационной техники удостоверяются только по результатам испытательных ядерных взрывов. Это где такое место?

    There are special laboratories where the electromagnetic spectrum and the shock wave of a nuclear explosion are simulated!
    If you really want to, you can find a program about this laboratory on Zvezda! hi