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Five Pillars of Russia's Food Security

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Deputy Prime Minister of Russia Victoria Abramchenko has cooled the hype in the food market that arose as a result of the coronavirus pandemic: existing production capacities and food stocks in the country will suffice even in conditions of increased demand.


Vice Prime Minister presented a happy picture


As an example, Victoria Abramchenko spoke about the most popular cereals these days - buckwheat and rice. Their reserves are in the warehouses of trade in many regions of the country. In addition, the Altai Territory has reserves of buckwheat grain in the amount of 365 thousand tons. 180 thousand tons of raw rice are at the processing enterprises of the Krasnodar Territory.

According to Abramchenko, Russia is one of the five largest producers of poultry meat and pork in the world. Last year, more than 5 million tons of poultry meat and more than 3,9 million tons of pork were produced.

Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation:

Over the past 15 years, the consumption of meat and meat products has grown by 38%, to 76 kilograms per person per year, while world meat consumption in the world does not exceed 43 kilograms. And manufacturers satisfy the demand of Russians for the meat category.

A favorable situation is also observed for other especially demanded goods of the food group. This is the result of many years of work to ensure the country's food security. It is known that at the beginning of the century, Russia was largely saturated with imported food products.

There was such a well-known policy - we will sell oil and buy everything. As a result, by 2010, according to the Institute for Integrated Strategic Studies, about 40% of the population’s expenditures on food were imported.

For fruits and berries, this indicator broke through the mark of 70%, for cheeses and dried milk - 50, for pork - 40 percent. Meanwhile, the import of food products in the amount of 25% of the demand is considered critical for the country's food security.

How Sanctions Helped the Food Security Doctrine


Understanding this led the government to adopt the Food Security Doctrine in January 2010. It implied the expansion of its own production of food and raw materials for it.

According to the document, by 2020, the level of self-sufficiency for grain and potatoes should be at least 95 percent, for milk and dairy products - 90%, meat, meat products and food salt - 85%, for sugar, vegetable oil and fish products - at least 80 percent.

In May 2017, then-Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said that Russia had fully ensured its food security. Imports fell 1,7 times. At the same time, the availability of food products for the population, both in terms of volume and price, has remained.

This result was given, first of all, by the counter-sanctions introduced by Russia and the import substitution program, supported by the federal budget. Last year, foreign supplies of agricultural raw materials and foodstuffs fell to the lowest levels since the beginning of the century - 12,4% of total consumption.

The course to increase the share of self-sufficiency has led Russia to take first place in the world in the production of rye, oats, barley, sugar beets, sunflowers, and buckwheat. Fourth place in terms of poultry meat and wheat, fifth in terms of fish catch.

Russians now consume 28 kilograms of fish and fish products per capita per year. Despite the fact that the minimum physiological norm of consumption of fish meat recommended by scientists should be 15,6 kilograms per year per person.

Other achievements of Russian farmers include the fourth place in the world in the production of animal feed, the fifth - in pork and cow's milk, and the seventh - in poultry eggs. If in the zero years Russia was the largest importer of pork, now it has entered the export market with this meat.

So in the main, the Food Security Doctrine, adopted in 2010, was implemented. This January, President Vladimir Putin signed a decree approving the new Doctrine. In its criteria, production of sugar, vegetable oil, vegetables and melons should rise from previous levels to 90% of self-sufficiency.

Vegetables appeared in the Doctrine for the first time, as did fruits with berries. By 2030 (the time frame of the document) Russia should provide itself with fruits and berries by 60%. Another important indicator has appeared - seed production of the main agricultural crops of domestic selection of at least 75 percent of the need.

New criteria are real and achievable. There are opportunities for this. First, Russia accounts for 10% of all arable land in the world. Three years ago, the sowing wedge exceeded 80 million hectares and continues to expand further. Secondly, the state seriously supports the agricultural sector with financial resources (subsidies from the budget and soft loans). About 500 billion rubles are allocated annually for these purposes.

Thirdly, the scientific base of agriculture is expanding, selection in crop production and animal husbandry. Fourth, industry infrastructure is developing. New storage facilities and primary processing points are being built. Its safety increases.



Finally, the agricultural sector adequately has qualified personnel. He has to solve the main tasks outlined in the Doctrine of Food Security.

It turns out that Russia’s food well-being rests on these five pillars today. It is generally achieved. The country felt this in the days of a sudden boom in food.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 21 March 2020 08: 08 New
    +15
    An article to calm down, for those who are in a panic .. Everything is described quite happily ... what is, what will be ... what will calm down .. We monitor gasoline prices .. they will certainly affect the growth of income and food basket ..
    Here is 28 kilograms of fish per capita, this indicator somehow confuses me, in the sense of its objectivity .. it turns out that one soul consumes 2,3 kg per month, this is with children and pensioners .. I have doubts, like many other items ..
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 21 March 2020 08: 31 New
      +27
      Quote: Svarog
      Everything is described quite happily ... what is, what will be ... what will calm my heart .. We monitor the prices of gasoline .. they will certainly affect the growth of income and food basket ..

      We follow the networkers. Recently I watched a report from Omsk. There is a good greenhouse complex. Tomatoes, cucumbers, etc. Current problem. In order to sell in Omsk through network managers, you need to deliver the goods to Tyumen or Novosibirsk, to the network centers logistics centers. And from there back to Omsk. Idiocy what belay recourse negative
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad 21 March 2020 08: 44 New
        -2
        Quote: Horst78
        We follow the networkers


        and why follow them. The state will restrict the import of imports and they will have nowhere to look for Russian suppliers. The article is about manufacturers and you networkers then weave gasoline with homeless people.
        1. Leshy1975
          Leshy1975 21 March 2020 11: 51 New
          +4
          Quote: lopvlad
          Quote: Horst78
          We follow the networkers


          and why follow them. The state will restrict the import of imports and they will have nowhere to look for Russian suppliers. The article is about manufacturers and you networkers then weave gasoline with homeless people.

          Only seeds and technologies in greenhouses are guaranteed to be imported. And accordingly, the cost of production in the fall of the ruble will be a bite.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 00 New
            -2
            Quote: Leshy1975
            Only seeds and technologies in greenhouses are guaranteed to be imported. And accordingly, the cost of production in the fall of the ruble will be a bite.

            Everything is lost! How can we do without the USA! laughing
          2. lopvlad
            lopvlad 22 March 2020 09: 10 New
            +9
            Quote: Leshy1975
            Only seeds and technologies in greenhouses are guaranteed to be imported


            wheat, rye, barley, millet, buckwheat, sunflower do not grow in greenhouses. And the seeds have been their own since 2014. These poisons are imported, but for some time Chinese poisons are not inferior to German poisons from the same baer.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 22 March 2020 11: 42 New
              +8
              Quote: lopvlad
              wheat, rye, barley, millet, buckwheat, sunflower do not grow in greenhouses. And the seeds have been their own since 2014.

              This is not important for many, it is important for them to prove that Russia is a bad country, and they do it with enviable persistence. wink
              1. Andobor
                Andobor 22 March 2020 14: 51 New
                +2
                There is such a job
                Quote: Tank Hard
                to prove that Russia is a bad country,

                and it is paid well, in the framework of financing the fight against "Russian propaganda."
                - The information war, no one has canceled it at the HE.
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 21 March 2020 12: 13 New
          +6
          Quote: lopvlad
          An article about manufacturers and you networkev or gasoline with homeless people weave

          The problem requires an integrated approach fool , The USSR also reported on the records! as a result, the deficit of everything! the manufacturer did not sell his goods bankrupt.
          On the other hand, for some producers, like Miratorg, conditions are created, additional financing, with the help of which many small producers suffer. This is also a problem that will still give exhaust.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 02 New
            +6
            Quote: aybolyt678
            as a result, the deficit of everything!

            Well, I don’t see any shortage of food now. We go to the shops every day. request
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 21 March 2020 22: 39 New
              -2
              Quote: Tank Hard
              Well, I see no shortage of products

              read carefully - I talked about the deficit in the USSR
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 40 New
                +2
                Quote: aybolyt678
                read carefully - I talked about the deficit in the USSR

                We carefully read, I'm talking about now. wink
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 22 March 2020 08: 30 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  We carefully read, I'm talking about now.

                  every day is not an indicator. 90% of the combine fleet is import. In the event of war, the result will be an under-harvest. Then at least live in shops and there will be no bread with meat ....
                  1. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 22 March 2020 09: 15 New
                    +4
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    every day is not an indicator. 90% of the combine fleet is import. In the event of war, the result will be an under-harvest. Then at least live in shops and there will be no bread with meat ....

                    Well, about 20 years ago, in general, the nightmare was now much better, I think that these problems will be solved.
                  2. Vikxnumx
                    Vikxnumx 22 March 2020 14: 48 New
                    +4
                    90% of the combine fleet is import.

                    This is from what purqua?
                    Stuffing imported in combines - this is ...
                    And the harvesters themselves are local! Look import statistics.
              2. lopvlad
                lopvlad 22 March 2020 09: 13 New
                -1
                Quote: aybolyt678
                I talked about the deficit in the USSR


                and now there is a shortage of quality goods. How quickly will you find sausage in the store in which there will be 95% high-quality meat?
                1. Servisinzhener
                  Servisinzhener 22 March 2020 12: 29 New
                  -1
                  You can find it very quickly - this is the one with a price of 900 rubles per kg or more.
                  1. lopvlad
                    lopvlad 24 March 2020 00: 12 New
                    0
                    Quote: Servisinzhener
                    You can find it very quickly


                    apparently you weren’t looking, if you write like that. The quality of meat in modern Russian sausage is not regulated by anything.
                    1. Servisinzhener
                      Servisinzhener 24 March 2020 22: 04 New
                      0
                      I have been living in this world for several years, I go to a store and buy sausage. And the difference between the one that is 300r / kg and the one that costs from 900 and above, to put it mildly, significant.
                      Although I prefer the jerky of my own production. And to taste and from an economic point of view.
                      In general, what do you mean by
                      95% high quality meat
                      ?
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 22 March 2020 15: 12 New
                  +2
                  In Myasnov I make a reservation - all natural dairy meat products are all made in Russia.
        3. Arlen
          Arlen 21 March 2020 17: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: lopvlad
          State import import will limit

          From the article:
          Government to adopt the Food Security Doctrine in January 2010 ...
          In May 2017, then-Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said that Russia had fully ensured its food security. Imports fell 1,7 times.

          Import reduced or not? The article clearly states import has reduced and completely secured food security. You say the state will limit ... It turns out we did not ensure food security?
          1. Magus
            Magus 21 March 2020 19: 23 New
            +9
            Quote: Arlen
            Import reduced or not?

            Uniquely reduced.
            Quote: Arlen
            It turns out we did not provide food security?

            Why?
          2. Tank hard
            Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 04 New
            +2
            Quote: Arlen
            It turns out we did not provide food security?

            What did not provide? Details and links are desired. repeat
          3. lopvlad
            lopvlad 24 March 2020 00: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: Arlen
            You say the state will limit ...


            I meant a complete ban on imports. This is the figure that the author voiced -12.4% of imports of total consumption.
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        1. Jager
          Jager 21 March 2020 09: 37 New
          -1
          This is just capitalism.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 21 March 2020 12: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: Jager
            This is just capitalism.

            This is not just capitalism, this is the victory of their capitalism over our production
            1. Jager
              Jager 21 March 2020 13: 00 New
              +4
              And how do our bourgeois-capitalist producers differ from their producers? The system is one. Even in our research institute, when a boss in a fit of patriotism urges us to work for free on a day off “for Russian science,” a colleague opens the Charter of the enterprise (which used to be FSUE, and now JSC, and then black and white: “The main goal ... is the income of shareholders Joint-stock company ", that is, private individuals.
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 21 March 2020 13: 24 New
                +1
                Quote: Jager
                And how do our bourgeois-capitalist producers differ from their producers?

                but the fact that our producers live in their financial system, where financial capital is not the rule. Import can not be cheaper than local in the correct system.
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 21 March 2020 16: 53 New
                -4
                Quote: Jager
                And how do our bourgeois-capitalist producers differ from their producers?

                I will try to clarify. winked : - This is not just capitalism, this is the victory of their financial capitalism over our industrial one. More precisely smile
            2. Victor N
              Victor N 21 March 2020 15: 11 New
              -4
              What is the "victory of their capitalism" expressed in? The whole article is "for health" and you are "for peace."
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 21 March 2020 16: 26 New
                -3
                elementary Watson smile in the economy of the Pipe, in the victory of consumer psychology, in the disappearance of the prospect of living in a better country in the world ....
              2. Arlen
                Arlen 21 March 2020 17: 18 New
                +3
                Quote: Victor N
                What is the "victory of their capitalism" expressed in?

                In everything. And first of all, industry ...
                1. Magus
                  Magus 21 March 2020 19: 19 New
                  +12
                  In electronics they overtake us very much. In the automotive industry, things are also better than ours.
                  1. Jager
                    Jager 24 March 2020 16: 44 New
                    0
                    How can you overtake what is not? And believe me, I know what I'm talking about. As an electronic engineer.
        2. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 21 March 2020 14: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: Malyuta
          Quote: Horst78
          , to the logistics centers of networkers.

          Networkers are also imported, as are the products in them.
          Quote: Horst78
          Idiocy

          This city is worse - this is Putinism.

          And who do you suggest, what kind of program does he have .. what suggestions do you have for improving the food situation in Russia?
          1. Horst78
            Horst78 21 March 2020 17: 32 New
            +8
            Quote: 30 vis
            And who do you suggest, what kind of program does he have .. what suggestions do you have for improving the food situation in Russia?

            Yes, he has no program. A person simply does not know that for some year the federals have been trying to force networkers to sell local products, but it doesn’t work out. The howl goes. "These are not market mechanisms." Maybe after changes in the constitution they are hit by their "market mechanisms"? They themselves crushed all the small retail (ptfu) of local sellers.
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 21 March 2020 20: 41 New
              +2
              Quote: Horst78
              Yes, he has no program. A person simply does not know that for some year the federals have been trying to force networkers to sell local products, but it doesn’t work out.

              I understand this ... not understandable to this "comrade" ... He is not up to the decision of the food program. This Malyuta of “Skurats” overthrows Putin! wassat Calling everyone to the barricades crying wassat he needs it, to break his head, than to feed people ....RIVALITSYonEr .. hydrogen peroxide mother!
              1. Horst78
                Horst78 21 March 2020 20: 46 New
                +1
                Quote: 30 vis
                He is not up to the decision of the food program. This Malyuta of “Skurats” overthrows Putin! Calling everyone to the barricades

                And note that these are not standing on the barricades hi
        3. Tank hard
          Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 07 New
          +4
          Quote: Malyuta
          , like the products in them.

          Let's give it with evidence, for example, that rice is not Krasnodar, Bulgarian ketchup, Japanese buckwheat (right now even white horse type whiskey is produced in Russia). Otherwise, you are a lie. request
        4. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 21 March 2020 22: 18 New
          -1
          Quote: Malyuta
          This city is worse ...

          ... trepidation. However, as usual.
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 21 March 2020 08: 39 New
      -10
      the whole article is to frighten bankers: “we are losing the Russian market, we have to compromise”
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 21 March 2020 12: 25 New
        +13
        Quote: antivirus
        whole article - scare zap bankers

        no, reassure the people. By the nature of my specialty, I’ll say - pharmaceutical substances, potassium permanganate, bleach, caustic from China, soy and protein additives in feed from Germany, there are practically no textiles of your own! building materials are generally all imported. Many imported supermarkets!
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 21 March 2020 18: 48 New
          -2
          argue non-politically - we are only fighting against the West
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 21 March 2020 22: 34 New
            +2
            it’s necessary to fight for oneself. not with the side of the world
        2. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 22 March 2020 12: 32 New
          +4
          Let me ask at the expense of building materials which ones ALL imported?
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 23 March 2020 00: 28 New
            0
            Well, here's what I recently encountered: self-tapping screws for plastic windows, door locks. The plywood was like ours, the metal profile is imported.
            1. Servisinzhener
              Servisinzhener 23 March 2020 16: 07 New
              +2
              Bolts and nuts are all China now. Like many other things needed during construction and decoration. The same tool. But to say that all building materials are imported is also not worth it. Brick (from the simplest to the most sophisticated), foam block, fittings, cement, dry building mixes, porcelain stoneware and tiles, doors. All kinds of thermal insulation from polystyrene to mineral wool and much more is produced here.
    3. svp67
      svp67 21 March 2020 08: 46 New
      +14
      Quote: Svarog
      An article to calm down, for those who are in a panic .. Everything is described quite happily ... what is, what will be ... what will calm down .. We monitor gasoline prices .. they will certainly affect the growth of income and food basket ..

      Not only gas prices ... when you start to sort things out, then we have an interesting history of "food security". A part of the feed, young animals, seed material is purchased from us abroad, but how much has the exchange rate changed now? These are all the consequences of the defeat of our science, you cannot call it otherwise when it is easier to rent out the space, for any and all, than to conduct scientific research on them. Yes, and salaries are not very high, "over the hill" they are paid more ...
      And yet, our closure of the border with China showed a REAL picture in food safety, when prices in the Far East and Siberia for vegetables and fruits rose at times ...
      So that I would not relax
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 21 March 2020 08: 56 New
        -8
        Yes, your feed, what are you lying to? The largest plant in Europe for the production of feed and premixes for cattle, for pigs do you know where it is?
        1. svp67
          svp67 21 March 2020 10: 03 New
          +11
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          the largest feed and premix plant in Europe for cattle, for pigs do you know where it is?

          And what, does he produce everything from domestic raw materials?
          Honestly, I would be glad if I was wrong, but what about this:
          The industry continues to develop, the total feed production compared with last year increased by 3%. At the same time, production of premixes for cattle shows the best dynamics: for two consecutive years, stable growth has continued in this sector, which in 2019 amounted to 27%.

          Last year's trends remain relevant in 2019: imports remain fairly high, exports continue to grow, but at a slow pace. The main trends in the industry are enlargement of production and digitalization.

          Read more at © DairyNews.ru https://www.dairynews.ru/news/rynok-kormov-itogi-2019-obzor-kormovoy-otrasli-po-.html
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 21 March 2020 10: 22 New
            0
            Absolutely its own, and local, good raw material base is extensive, and it works and loads daily
            1. svp67
              svp67 21 March 2020 10: 23 New
              +11
              Quote: Andrey VOV
              Absolutely its own, and local, good raw material base is extensive, and it works and loads daily

              If you work there, then find out whose vitamin and other supplements?
              1. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 21 March 2020 10: 27 New
                +6
                I don’t work there, at first and when commissioning was started, there were imported vitamins, then they were replaced by ours, I know the technologist of the enterprise well, they refused to import and because of the high cost, they found a good replacement
                1. svp67
                  svp67 21 March 2020 10: 28 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Andrey VOV
                  found a good replacement

                  Well, at least something pleases ...
                  1. Andrey VOV
                    Andrey VOV 21 March 2020 10: 32 New
                    +3
                    But the most interesting thing is why our little use of beet pulp, they used to take it to the fields before, and now with such crops, almost 70 percent are taken by Norwegians, Danes and Dutch))) we still laugh why such a Norwegian fish is so red)))
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 21 March 2020 10: 34 New
                      +6
                      Quote: Andrey VOV
                      , almost 70 percent are taken by the Norwegians, Danes and Dutch)))

                      For the capitalist, the main profit ... and he will sell to where they pay more
                      1. Andrey VOV
                        Andrey VOV 21 March 2020 10: 38 New
                        +2
                        In this case, the real demand for this product here, in this type of sugar production waste, is actually more in demand there, we more traditionally take meal and meal meal of seeds, rape and soy
                    2. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 21 March 2020 11: 01 New
                      -7
                      Quote: Andrey VOV
                      why such a norwegian fish is so red

                      Yes, beets, she gluttonized, definitely! good laughing good
                      1. Andrey VOV
                        Andrey VOV 21 March 2020 11: 04 New
                        +4
                        The waste would seem, and 142 euros per ton of granulated pulp is a very good price
                2. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 21 March 2020 12: 29 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Andrey VOV
                  found a good replacement

                  the trouble is that some, supposedly their own, manufacturers are simply packing up preparations from Chinese substances. Example Nitapharm, VIC. all veterinary pharmacies are littered with the products of these "their" firms.
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 21 March 2020 12: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          Do you know where it is?

          Do you know what proportion of imported feed additives?
      2. Sardanapalus
        Sardanapalus 21 March 2020 13: 59 New
        +1
        Today, a market and two markets of the Far East. Tomatoes 145, was surprised last year at that time 160 and was considered expensive.
      3. BAMIIuP
        BAMIIuP 22 March 2020 17: 13 New
        0
        Only before raising at times, at first, all the vegetables AT ALL disappeared from the sale. They opened the border, reduced the price, but certainly not to the previous level. The Chinese do not need to conquer the Far East, it’s enough to close the border and everyone will be hungry and undressed.
    4. Victor N
      Victor N 21 March 2020 09: 10 New
      -1
      The main role was played by the private interests of entrepreneurs. Watching a mess on collective farms in former times is a complete hopelessness!
    5. nikvic46
      nikvic46 21 March 2020 09: 59 New
      +10
      Vladimir. I was also embarrassed by these 28 kilograms. At least for the price.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 21 March 2020 12: 33 New
        +7
        Quote: nikvic46
        I was also embarrassed by these 28 kilograms

        I live in Siberia, in our region, entrepreneurs have unleashed 2 reservoirs of peled. 3 years ago. Since last year, peled has not been translated in our refrigerators. Its cost is 100 - 150 rubles. per kg The trend is inspiring.
        1. Sardanapalus
          Sardanapalus 21 March 2020 14: 10 New
          +6
          Stocked peled 100-150 ?? They are definitely being cultivated, and not poached. Our sea "breathes through the windows." Flounder and Navaga (the least valuable) from 100-150 are just beginning.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 21 March 2020 16: 30 New
            +2
            Quote: Sardanapalus
            They are definitely being cultivated, and not poached.

            Kamaz is standing in the fridge, you come and ask for it. Small 350 gr. -100 -120 rubles and a large 650-800 gr. 120-150 rub. the price floats on their mood or the amount caught.
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    7. Million
      Million 21 March 2020 11: 44 New
      +2
      There are still questions about product quality. A trip to the store resembles playing cards with cheaters
    8. YOUR
      YOUR 21 March 2020 11: 45 New
      +7
      That's exactly what is rosy over the chur. On February 5-6, a special decision of the government of the Amur Region allowed communication with China. Let me remind you that at the state level, the border with China was closed. Cause. Instantly, vegetable prices rose 4-5 times. So tomatoes began to cost 1000 rubles, cucumbers 400-450. Moreover, the prices of our greenhouse rose at the same time and equalized. The decision was made, let's say so quickly enough, those who decided to warm up in quarantine are thought to have flown. Because they began to import quickly from China. The same for meat. The meat industry in the region was ready to stop due to a lack of raw materials. His pigs, and how many of them were, were nibbling, some kind of African plague suddenly appeared. For that milk ... you can swim. True, there are no cows, but there is milk.
      Sanctions have helped food security. So these are bullshit. Foreign cannot be cheaper than local. To bring, pay customs duties, to bring to the consumer, i.e. in theory, the heifer should be obtained overseas; However, in reality it turns out the opposite, theirs, despite customs obstacles, is still cheaper than ours. How so? I don’t understand, it should not be like that.
      Who can explain to me why Chinese vegetables are cheaper than ours. They also grow in greenhouses, electricity is also needed, but the Chinese also buy this electricity from us. In our region, they have nothing energy producing, but they are still cheaper. I do not understand.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 21 March 2020 13: 07 New
        +3
        ++++ YOU! good question!
        Quote: YOUR
        Who can explain to me why Chinese vegetables are cheaper than ours. They also grow in greenhouses, electricity is also needed, but the Chinese also buy this electricity from us. In our region, they have nothing energy producing, but they are still cheaper. I do not understand.

        I will try ... This is my opinion. not only did you notice what to buy there cheaper. So in everything! I believe that the banking system that sets exchange rates is to blame. According to the basic laws of a primitive economy, import is ALWAYS more expensive! If we artificially strengthen the competitor’s currency, this creates a bias in the economy in the direction of the prevalence of financial capital, put a foreign bank in such a country and Rule! . Industrial capital is being killed by a “strong” ruble.
        I believe that a commission is needed to establish the exchange rate favorable to our industry. This would solve problems, including smuggling and brain escape.
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 21 March 2020 16: 35 New
        0
        Quote: YOUR
        However, in reality it turns out the opposite, theirs, despite customs obstacles, is still cheaper than ours. How so? I don’t understand, it should not be like that.

        I remember from the course of economics the phrase that some wars ended after permission to circulate someone else's coins in the country. Foreign coin pulls a blanket of well-being into the country of the issuer of the coin.
        And we have their banks, for example Alfa Bank. In addition, the gold and foreign currency reserves system itself prohibits printing money without reserves, which contradicts the very essence of money. Value is labor embodied in a product, and money is an expression of value that has certain functions. Today's Russian money is an expression of the amount of dollars or gold in gold reserves. That is, in a certain sense, or percentage, “Alien” coin.
    9. Freeman
      Freeman 21 March 2020 15: 09 New
      +8
      Quote: Svarog
      Here is 28 kilograms of fish per capita, this indicator somehow confuses me, in the sense of its objectivity .. it turns out that one soul consumes 2,3 kg per month, this is with children and pensioners .. I have doubts, like many other items ..


      In Russia, about 33,7 million cats (2018), they are not taken into account in these consumption statistics, they believe that people eat all the fish.
      - And "do not share."


      laughing
    10. Storekeeper
      Storekeeper 21 March 2020 15: 43 New
      +1
      I think in the coastal regions the fish goes more because it is cheaper, and in the interior regions more meat. My wife so roughly eats a couple of kg of fish per month, I prefer my own pork, and I hardly eat fish much and don’t like it. hi
    11. Tank hard
      Tank hard 21 March 2020 21: 57 New
      -1
      Quote: Svarog
      An article to calm down, for those who are in a panic .. Quite a bit rosy everything is described ... what is, what will be .. than the heart will calm

      C'mon, alarmists ... I went to five today, not far from home, everything is there, including buckwheat. Get excited! tongue
    12. Foxnova
      Foxnova 22 March 2020 18: 36 New
      0
      Someone is eating meat. someone is cabbage, but according to statistics everyone is eating cabbage rolls.
  2. China
    China 21 March 2020 08: 12 New
    +19
    If this continues for some time, then our domestic buckwheat producer will be able to buy back the shares of Apple, Boeing, GMC and Microsoft.
    1. atalef
      atalef 21 March 2020 08: 47 New
      +17
      Quote: China
      If this continues for some time, then our domestic buckwheat producer will be able to buy back the shares of Apple, Boeing, GMC and Microsoft.

      Strange, but 2 days ago Mishustin signed a decree on the lifting of all sanctions against Western food companies and allowed the import of all that was sanctioned.
      Food and medicine.
      So jamon and parmesan will again appear in stores.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 21 March 2020 21: 58 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        jamon

        Rare rubbish, but to whom - what ... request
  3. Mouse
    Mouse 21 March 2020 08: 15 New
    +4
    Potato, cabbage ... one hundred grams wink herring and cucumber !!!! Just five! yes
  4. tatra
    tatra 21 March 2020 08: 23 New
    +10
    If now we remove all imported products and leave only products manufactured according to Soviet high-quality GOSTs, including bread, then the shank will be the same, if not worse, than during a deliberately arranged food sabotage in the USSR in the late 80s, when even in "snickering" Moscow instantly disappeared products.
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 21 March 2020 08: 43 New
      -3
      >>> If now you remove all imported products and leave only products manufactured in accordance with Soviet high-quality GOSTs <<<
      Something incomprehensible if
      That is:If remove all imported and leave Russian, it’s understandable. But to remove the “soft” and leave everything “fluffy” is incomprehensible.
      Many products are manufactured using new technologies and have Russian "guests". You do not take them into account?
    2. lopvlad
      lopvlad 21 March 2020 08: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: tatra
      produced according to Soviet quality GOSTs


      and if in the West they left food in stores on shelves whose quality would be close to the Soviet guests, then all the shelves would become empty instantly. The USSR took care of the health of its citizens and did not feed them with chemicals, as in the West.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 March 2020 09: 50 New
        -14
        Quote: lopvlad


        and if in the West they left food in stores on shelves whose quality would be close to the Soviet guests, then all the shelves would become empty instantly. The USSR took care of the health of its citizens and did not feed them with chemicals, as in the West.

        Nonsense. I remember these frozen squid mass graves, the pungent smell of fish starting to deteriorate, and the foul smell in the dairy departments of Soviet stores. They cared about the health of the people - yeah ..
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 21 March 2020 11: 29 New
          +3
          Oh how right you are! Milk that does not deteriorate for months is an eternal sausage.
          But tell me, why the Kremlin continues to increase the purchase of palm oil?
          My dream is to try sausages from Sechin's basket.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 21 March 2020 11: 34 New
            -4
            You remember the Soviet cervelat - a hard meat chewing gum with huge pieces of fat! Healthy food)) Or a stinking doctor. My first shock in Israel in '91 is a delicious martodella without a chemical taste instead of a doctoral one and store-bought sausages, which are not inferior to tastes at home from the Soviet village.
            On pulse oil - purchases are still conducted by private importers, not the Kremlin))
            About Sechin's basket - go to the Moscow "ABC of Taste" - plus minus
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 21 March 2020 13: 14 New
              +1
              Quote: Krasnodar
              My first shock in Israel 91 years - a delicious martodella

              Do not compare products 91 and 80 years. And also Israel - a blessed country where you can remove 6 potato crops from a piece of land! Africa, near the sea, Jordan is not enough for everyone ...
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 21 March 2020 14: 15 New
                +1
                I don’t remember the products of the 80s - only the difference in the assortment and quality of sweets)).
                And about Jordan - fresh water from desalination plants, wells and other things. This is not the problem of the country - there are enough others laughing
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 21 March 2020 16: 48 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  This is not the problem of the country - there are enough others

                  there is a saying in the Caucasus - skulls are being dug up on a greasy field, implying that one has to fight for fertile land. Isn't the conflict with the Palestinians because of this, not for access to water?
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 22 March 2020 09: 56 New
                    +2
                    Quote: aybolyt678

                    there is a saying in the Caucasus - skulls are being dug up on a greasy field, implying that one has to fight for fertile land. Isn't the conflict with the Palestinians because of this, not for access to water?

                    No )).
                    The division of the territory between two national movements - Jewish and Arab
                    1. aybolyt678
                      aybolyt678 23 March 2020 16: 45 New
                      0
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      No ))

                      weird. He talked with one very authoritative person, an old Jew, he told me how once, all the Jews, from a peasant to a banker, picked up ketmen (choppers) and built the most advanced meliorative system in the world with water supply to almost every tree. The Palestinians were not so organized. But with the presence of water, the Jews turned out to be the most fertile lands. This was the beginning of the conflict, then even walls were built to limit Palestinians' access to water .. - is this all banter?
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 23 March 2020 16: 46 New
                        +2
                        This is one hundredth of the history of the conflict, and quite idealized towards the Jews)).
                        Rothschild gave Russian money to the first settlements. For three years they lived at his expense, until he threatened to stop subsidies - he had to work laughing But the tsimes was not the case - the locals sold the Jews unsuitable sections on the three roads - the latter built a pretty decent infrastructure on it, leaving sellers to eat cheaper money. Because of the ideology of “Jewish labor”, Arabs were attracted to work on an extremely small scale, as a result, the British who came and reigned in Palestine had a bit of fun - everything against the backdrop of a rising national identity - and went
                2. lopvlad
                  lopvlad 22 March 2020 09: 22 New
                  0
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  80s products do not remember


                  so what to talk about with you if you talk about the quality of sausage which you don’t remember?
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 22 March 2020 09: 57 New
                    +1
                    Quote: lopvlad


                    so what to talk about with you if you talk about the quality of sausage which you don’t remember?

                    Let's just say - at 86 I was 10 years old - I already remember
                    And these filthy pungent smells from the dairy and fish departments
                    1. lopvlad
                      lopvlad 24 March 2020 01: 08 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      And these filthy pungent smells from the dairy and fish departments


                      if you are aware that it smells like natural products. Nature took care that you did not eat and did not poison, scaring you off the smell of delay.
            2. Tank hard
              Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 22 New
              +4
              Quote: Krasnodar
              You remember the Soviet cervelat - a hard meat chewing gum with huge pieces of fat! Healthy food)) Or a stinking doctor. My first shock in Israel in '91 is a delicious martodella without a chemical taste instead of a doctoral one and store-bought sausages, which are not inferior to tastes at home from the Soviet village.
              On pulse oil - purchases are still conducted by private importers, not the Kremlin))

              hi Below I posted an opinion in the video about palm oil, in the comments to the video, there are also interesting points for thinking individuals. of course. wink
            3. lopvlad
              lopvlad 22 March 2020 09: 19 New
              0
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Or doctoral stinky



              this is because she “stank” of meat and not “smelled” of chemicals.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 22 March 2020 09: 58 New
                -2
                Quote: lopvlad


                this is because she “stank” of meat and not “smelled” of chemicals.

                Strictly opposite
                1. lopvlad
                  lopvlad 24 March 2020 01: 10 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Strictly opposite


                  95% quality meat according to GOST in the Soviet "Doctor's"
            4. Servisinzhener
              Servisinzhener 22 March 2020 12: 41 New
              0
              About Sechin's basket - go to the Moscow "ABC of Taste" - plus minus
              In Auchan, Tape, Magnit or Crossroads hypermarkets, you can also dial sausages of a similar level. Everything is freely available. But of course not 300r per kg.
          2. Victor N
            Victor N 21 March 2020 15: 28 New
            -2
            "The Kremlin buys palm oil"? Didn’t you wet yourself? Or spilled into the head?
          3. Tank hard
            Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 19 New
            +1
            Quote: Gardamir
            Oh how right you are! Milk that does not deteriorate for months is an eternal sausage.
            But tell me, why the Kremlin continues to increase the purchase of palm oil?
            My dream is to try sausages from Sechin's basket.

            The "expert" hailstroke in shock. laughing True, there are other opinions (in the comments under the video, also interesting). wink
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 22 March 2020 10: 03 New
              +3
              That's right))
              Moreover - GMOs, while observing the technologies, are also not harmful - plant RNA and human DNA are different)).
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 22 March 2020 11: 22 New
                +5
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Moreover - GMOs while observing the technologies are also not harmful - plant RNA and human DNA are different))

                Well, there are different opinions, I’m not an expert in this, I can’t say anything ... GMOs cause fear in me, although it’s not a fact that is justified. And he shared his opinion about palm oil, because I know so little about it, and the opinion of competent specialists on this matter is not particularly heard where, but to me personally, I'm curious. hi
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 22 March 2020 11: 35 New
                  +3
                  So it's all from one opera - tales about palm oil and GMOs - subject to technology, everything is ok
              2. Foul skeptic
                Foul skeptic 23 March 2020 15: 36 New
                0
                Plant RNA and human DNA are different))

                Why do you contrast RNA with DNA if plants also have DNA? )))
                GMOs while respecting technology are also not harmful

                lack of evidence of harm - this is not proof of lack of harm. While there is no evidence of the impossibility of independent non-homologous recombination in consumers with impaired repair function, it is impossible to unequivocally say anything.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 23 March 2020 16: 59 New
                  +1
                  Human DNA and plant DNA are also very different. hi
                  1. Foul skeptic
                    Foul skeptic 23 March 2020 17: 44 New
                    +1
                    Human DNA and plant DNA are also very different.

                    Of course you are right. Plants have very developed "junk" (non-coding) DNA, because the nuclear mammalian genome was opened much faster, scientists had to decipher the smaller volume corny. But the nitrogenous bases of the genome, that of plants, that of man, nevertheless, are the same - the same ones known from school A, D, C, T)) I think in this area there are still so many all kinds of discoveries waiting for people, maybe not always pleasant.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 23 March 2020 18: 03 New
                      +1
                      It is quite possible - the harm of smoking was established only 40 years after the mass sale of cigarettes and pipe tobacco, the harm of processed and bed meat - 10 years ago hi
        2. Elturisto
          Elturisto 22 March 2020 09: 58 New
          -5
          Stop fucking already, he remembers. Go to any fish market, (including over the hill), you will have revelations. In the USSR, the back of a pollock cost 30 kopecks per kg., And all the general stores were littered with excellent canned fish.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 22 March 2020 11: 37 New
            +2
            Everything was littered with magnificent canned goods - the smell was especially wonderful when opening canned salmon
            And about the fish markets - it was, including Abroad
            There wasn’t such a stink
            1. Elturisto
              Elturisto 22 March 2020 15: 14 New
              -5
              You seem to have a very selective sense of smell ... my question is, Olgin shit ozonizes the air?
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 22 March 2020 15: 40 New
                +1
                I don’t know what you are talking about, but I believe that this is a killer argument! )))
        3. lopvlad
          lopvlad 24 March 2020 00: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: Krasnodar
          I remember these frozen squid mass graves


          so this is my friend’s well-being. Now they’re scattering crab sticks in which the crab smells at best. I still can’t forget the taste of Soviet crab sticks that were made from real crab meat.
      2. savage1976
        savage1976 21 March 2020 09: 53 New
        -8
        It was from such care and especially pure products that the whole collective farm was poisoned directly in the fields.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2020 12: 54 New
          0
          Quote: savage1976
          It was from such care and especially pure products that the whole collective farm was poisoned directly in the fields.

          Herbicides, pesticides, nitrates ..
          1. savage1976
            savage1976 21 March 2020 13: 23 New
            -2
            They are the most, cleanest and healthiest foods.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 21 March 2020 14: 17 New
              +2
              And filigree compliance with the conditions for baking bread, the production of sausages and sausages, soft drinks and sweet drinks fellow
              1. savage1976
                savage1976 21 March 2020 15: 51 New
                -3
                and of course the sterile conditions of storage, transportation and packaging of food products.
                1. lopvlad
                  lopvlad 22 March 2020 09: 25 New
                  0
                  Quote: savage1976
                  and of course sterile storage conditions


                  This is a picture from the 90s.
                  1. savage1976
                    savage1976 22 March 2020 10: 26 New
                    +1
                    Something you are modest, you should have immediately Putin's prosperity. But in fact, this photo is 81 years old. Even before Gorbachev perestroika. Wonderful Brezhnev stagnation.


                    1. iouris
                      iouris 22 March 2020 11: 49 New
                      0
                      Horror! Mordor. And what does this prove?
                      1. savage1976
                        savage1976 22 March 2020 12: 20 New
                        +2
                        But is it necessary for someone to prove something? We prove first of all to ourselves with our lives and deeds.
                      2. lopvlad
                        lopvlad 24 March 2020 00: 03 New
                        +1
                        Quote: savage1976
                        But is it necessary for someone to prove something?


                        apparently you, otherwise this garbage would not be distributed.
                  2. lopvlad
                    lopvlad 24 March 2020 00: 01 New
                    +1
                    Quote: savage1976
                    But in fact, this photo is 81 years old.


                    Well, this is only if you take your word for it, because it is impossible to determine the time from them.
                    By the way, storage of cabbage is something that didn’t please you. You cannot buy cabbage like in the USSR practically grown without chemicals. Moreover, this is a photo from a vegetable warehouse where sorting is for shops (goods in nets).
        2. lopvlad
          lopvlad 24 March 2020 00: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Herbicides, pesticides, nitrates ..


          It’s not immediately visible in the topic. Poisons were actively used only at the end of Perestroika, because they cost money and every collective farm had a lot of free labor (instead of poisons, manual labor with choppers was used, starting with the work of schoolchildren and ending with the involvement of employees of large research institutes).
          What fertilizers were used. Potassium fertilizers (because without them, no fig grows and they are safe), nitrate, ammonia (the same ammonia that can be found in every medicine cabinet), lime, manure from farms.
          Now all that is grown on the fields of Russia literally floats in the herbicides (the same roundup and its analogues) of the same ones that cause oncology (cancer), uncontrolled use (there is no information about the place of application or the timing) of insecticides leads to mass death of bees in different regions of the country.
          As evidenced by the presence of Russia in the leaders in the incidence of oncology.
          1. savage1976
            savage1976 24 March 2020 01: 41 New
            0
            14 on May 1971 of the year,
            acute group poisoning of 154 collective farmers of the collective farm to them. Ilyich Krivoozersky district of the Nikolaev region (Ukrainian SSR), brought to the beet field an hour after its treatment with polychlorpinene. Poisoning occurred immediately. And of course, the purest beets for Soviet workers grew on the field. May 20 of the same year
            group poisoning of 52 collective farmers of the collective farm to them. Kuibyshev of the Krivoozersky district of the Nikolaev region (Ukrainian SSR), brought to the beet field 12 hours after its treatment with polychlorpinene. And of course, exclusively natural and healthy products were grown on this collective farm. 1972 May 21
            poisoning of a group of collective farmers of the collective farm to them. Gorky Krivoozersky district of the Nikolaev region (Ukrainian SSR), brought to the beet field after its "complex" chemical treatment (with the insecticide "polychlorpinene" and then urea).
            22 May
            group poisoning of 33 collective farmers of the “Prapor of Communism” collective farm of the Bratsk region of the Nikolaev region (Ukrainian SSR), brought to the beet field after its “difficult” chemical treatment. Damn, some strange collective farmers, are poisoned from the purest natural products grown without chemicals.
            1. Foul skeptic
              Foul skeptic 24 March 2020 13: 20 New
              0
              The poisoning came from phosgene, which is highly volatile and poorly growing in water, which means it does not have the ability to accumulate in the root crop of the plant. Collective farmers poisoned them because they were expelled to the field earlier than the term of overexposure when working with polychlorpinene.
              1. savage1976
                savage1976 24 March 2020 14: 53 New
                0
                And, well, that is, it is completely harmless and after a certain period of time it is even useful for humans, and after processing the fields with this garbage, healthy and healthy food grows in the fields?
                1. Foul skeptic
                  Foul skeptic 24 March 2020 15: 12 New
                  0
                  If you have made such a conclusion on the basis of my message, then I can only be perplexed.
                  1. savage1976
                    savage1976 24 March 2020 15: 45 New
                    0
                    There is no conclusion but a question.
              2. savage1976
                savage1976 24 March 2020 14: 59 New
                -1
                And now, when processing landings with such garbage, the people are consciously poisoning the authorities, and then it was done to give Soviet citizens tasty, healthy and healthy food?
          2. savage1976
            savage1976 24 March 2020 01: 50 New
            -1
            Ordinary salt is also harmless and even beneficial to the body. Eat a couple of pounds.
    3. nikvic46
      nikvic46 21 March 2020 10: 01 New
      0
      Today. And they already have empty shelves.
  5. Malyuta
    Malyuta 21 March 2020 08: 54 New
    +8
    Quote: tatra
    If now we remove all imported products and leave only products manufactured according to Soviet high-quality GOSTs, including bread, then the shank will be the same, if not worse, than during a deliberately arranged food sabotage in the USSR in the late 80s, when even in "snickering" Moscow instantly disappeared products.


    I don’t quite agree with you, all the same, with sabotage in the late USSR, products with a small margin could be bought at cooperative stores, on collective farm markets and in any village, and now if you remove the import overnight, then starvation will come in the first place as well.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 21 March 2020 13: 15 New
      -1
      Quote: Malyuta
      then there will be famine in maskvabad first.

      not only hunger, revolution!
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: aybolyt678
        not only hunger, revolution!

        Are you waiting ?! But it won’t be! laughing
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Malyuta
      and now if you remove the import overnight, then there will be famine in Maskvabad in the first place.

      Post a lie, but apparently this is your mission. wink request
    3. lopvlad
      lopvlad 24 March 2020 00: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Malyuta
      and now if you remove the import overnight


      “I didn’t give birth to poppy for a hundred years and there wasn’t hunger”, but simply don’t die of hunger. To understand this, you need to read on products in the store not only the expiration dates and composition, but also the country of production of the product, the country of origin of the raw materials.
      By the way, I remembered the 90s, you went to the nearest stall and there in Russian and Russian you could only find beer, prima cigarettes from different cities of production and vodka from under the counter. Everything else including the hit (chocolate Alpen Gold) in English.
  6. Tank hard
    Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 15 New
    +2
    Quote: tatra
    If now you remove all imported products and leave only products manufactured according to Soviet high-quality GOSTs, including bread, then the shank will be the same, if not worse, than during a deliberately arranged food sabotage in the USSR in the late 80s, when even "snickering" Moscow instantly disappeared products

    Post the truth, however, as usual. laughing
  • rudolff
    rudolff 21 March 2020 08: 50 New
    +12
    When they say that sanctions and counter-sanctions helped agriculture rise, for some reason they don’t remember the decisions that this agriculture almost killed. I’m about the conditions for joining the WTO. For a great achievement, only a temporary leveling of damage from their own erroneous (or intentional) actions is issued. Well, if tomorrow the Europeans cancel these sanctions or part of the sanctions? For example, in connection with coronavirus? Will our agriculture collapse again? It is necessary to change the conditions of their membership in the WTO and work must begin now, because the lifting of sanctions can do more damage than the sanctions themselves.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 21 March 2020 08: 58 New
      -10
      Just to shake the air, what did the WTO do wrong for our s // x ???
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 21 March 2020 14: 04 New
        0
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        what did the WTO wrong for our s // x ???

        World energy prices.
    2. Liam
      Liam 21 March 2020 09: 06 New
      -4
      Quote: rudolff
      I about the conditions of entry into the WTO

      You are a smart person. Do not rely on Internet propaganda memes about the terrible conditions of entering the WTO, which destroyed something there. This bike has nothing to do with reality. A similar story about the translation of arrows about the pension reform at the IMF.
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 21 March 2020 09: 29 New
        +9
        I do not rely on any memes. Parents taught to think independently. And I remember the heated discussions of the conditions for joining the WTO specifically regarding agriculture. Opponents of such an entry argued that our agricultural is not competitive at this point in time, and that the opening of the agricultural market could even kill agricultural. China was cited as an example, which bargained for itself much more favorable conditions for joining the organization. Well, supporters argued that the opening of the agricultural product market would cause healthy competition, that our agricultural sector would benefit from this and grow stronger, gain access to European and world markets.
        What is it now? Agriculture revived purely because the domestic market was temporarily closed due to sanctions / counter-sanctions, i.e. WTO membership in this part has actually been suspended. Arithmetic is simple. And all agricultural producers are afraid of the lifting of sanctions, especially in those areas where long investments are required. For example, beef production or fish farming.
        1. Liam
          Liam 21 March 2020 09: 58 New
          -6
          Well, it’s free will. There are words and numbers. Before entering the WTO of the Russian Federation (2012), it exported 10-15 million tons of grain. After entering, for example, in 2017-53 million tons. The export of agricultural products has long surpassed the export of the military-industrial complex.
          Exit the WTO and see what remains of this abundance and how many farmers are ravaged.
          1. rudolff
            rudolff 21 March 2020 10: 07 New
            +8
            Do not rush to conclusions. It so happened that I know the wheat situation well. I wanted to mention it in the comments above, but I write on the go. This is a separate issue and this is an exception. I know the numbers by years. It's not the WTO thing at all.
            1. Liam
              Liam 21 March 2020 10: 19 New
              -5
              Quote: rudolff
              It's not the WTO thing at all.

              Of course not in it. 2012 is just a coincidence.
              According to a government report, in the period from 2012 to 2017 year, the export of food products and agricultural raw materials grew by 23,5% with a decrease in imports by 29,1% - a solid positive trade balance was established. [1]. Significant positive dynamics are observed in the export of cereals (an increase of 27,6%), sunflower, safflower and cottonseed oil and their fractions (an increase of 29,9%), white sugar (an increase of 5,4 times), pork (1,5, 42,1 times), poultry meat (an increase of 43%), as well as crustaceans (an increase of XNUMX%) and the fishing sector as a whole in connection with the strengthening of cooperation with China. In addition, according to the results of recent years, Russia has come out on top in the world in wheat export. Successes in the development of crop production, livestock, poultry farming are noted..
              1. rudolff
                rudolff 21 March 2020 10: 46 New
                +7
                You include the sanctions period here. In this period, the numbers and floated up. For objectivity, we need to take the period, say, from the beginning of the 2000s until accession to the WTO, the period from accession to the WTO and to sanctions, the period from sanctions to the present. These figures should be compared. And it is desirable for certain positions.
                Separate conversation on wheat. And a separate conversation on the commodity positions of Belarusian manufacturers. For example, the eggs of Belarusians in the European part of Russia were seriously crushed by Russian manufacturers.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 21 March 2020 10: 55 New
                  0
                  Let's be precise in the definitions. There are no Western sanctions against Russia in the agricultural sector. There is a purely Russian unilateral embargo on the import of Western agricultural. Western sanctions relate to completely different areas: finances, visas, oil industry, military-industrial complex.
                  The embargus can explain the reduction in imports of agricultural products in the country. But not the increase in export. The export is the work of the WTO, at the entrance to which most of the customs duties are removed. More precisely, they are not removed but reduced to the values ​​specified by agreement. You can only raise them either as a response to dumping by the exporter, or in violation of the WTO rules themselves and having received a fine and an answer for this.
                  Belarus has nothing to do with the WTO in this matter. This is a purely Russian theme, a customs union, that’s all.
                  1. rudolff
                    rudolff 21 March 2020 11: 27 New
                    +7
                    You have mixed too many things together. Yes, of course I mean counter-sanctions by which we actually closed the domestic agricultural market and gave a breath of air to our agricultural producers. The West did not impose sanctions on agricultural products, it is unprofitable for him.
                    Exports increased not because duties fell. With a very rare exception, we did not break into the European market. And no WTO helped. Export went to those countries that need specific commodity items, duties on which are virtually zeroed or minimal. And maybe it has become for the simple reason that we have strong agricultural producers. With a smart approach, agricultural export earnings can be comparable to hydrocarbon export revenues.
                    The WTO provided diversity on the shelves of grocery stores through imports, but it did not help our agricultural sector in any way. On the contrary, he nearly killed him. Rather, not even the WTO itself, but the conditions on which we entered there. These conditions are not the same for all countries, they are negotiable. We agreed so long that in the end we waved a hand. And got involved. And now we are pleased that, thanks to sanctions, we have closed our market in response.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 21 March 2020 11: 35 New
                      -3
                      However, before the WTO agreement, no export breakthroughs were observed even in those countries in which they occurred after 2012. And in the Western countries, breakthroughs did not occur for the simple reason that the quality of Russian agricultural products for the most part does not reach European standards. but you probably know what kind of products you export, what classes and what quality and in which countries it is in demand.
                      It was for the Russian agricultural sector that the WTO entry turned out to be a golden move. They received a reduction in duties and access to foreign markets (those countries to which they export, they are also members of the WTO if that), and two years later, under the guise of sanctions, they closed access to their huge markets competitors. They collected only buns from this business. That was reflected in the unprecedented growth of Russian agriculture. It is clear that the WTO is not the only factor influencing this, but it played its role. And certainly not negative.
                      So do not anger God with the theme of the WTO)
                      1. rudolff
                        rudolff 21 March 2020 11: 40 New
                        +3
                        As you wish.
            2. Andrey VOV
              Andrey VOV 21 March 2020 10: 25 New
              -3
              Educate on wheat and educate with sources)))
              1. rudolff
                rudolff 21 March 2020 10: 56 New
                +7
                Maybe later. It's hard for me to write long comments. Wheat is a bonanza. Regardless of the WTO. You won’t believe it, but even the “brothers” of the 90s then invested in this business. He himself saw who and how paid for chemistry, for pollination from the air, with teams of combine harvesters in the Stavropol Territory. Pure bros in jeeps, pure cash in the field. Then the order became more, of course, but the essence is the same: for Russia, wheat is gold.
                1. Andrey VOV
                  Andrey VOV 21 March 2020 11: 02 New
                  0
                  You can not tell me, I myself have been working in agricultural holding and in agricultural since 2005
    3. Ivan Kolodin
      Ivan Kolodin 21 March 2020 16: 53 New
      -2
      So above wrote Mishustin canceled just these sanctions
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 21 March 2020 17: 08 New
        +4
        I missed this moment somehow. If this is true, then it is at least vile. Both Putin and Medvedev constantly assured that counter-sanctions would last as long as sanctions. And since no one is going to cancel the sanctions ... you can safely invest in agriculture.
    4. Tank hard
      Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: rudolff
      When they say that sanctions and counter-sanctions helped agriculture rise, for some reason they don’t remember the decisions that this agriculture almost killed. I about the conditions of entry into the WTO

      Well, these are slightly different things, however much you would like to ... repeat
    5. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 March 2020 15: 15 New
      0
      198 countries of the world enter the WTO - Russia couldn’t join it since it would be much more difficult to conduct commodity-money relations.
    6. lopvlad
      lopvlad 24 March 2020 01: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: rudolff
      Will our agriculture collapse again?


      no, it won’t collapse, because local production got on its feet over the past few years. This is indirectly evidenced by the wailing of Lukashenko, who is finding it harder and harder to push the “Belarusian” milk into the Russian market. The word “Belarusian” in quotation marks because Belarus produces less milk than it sells to Russia.
  • China
    China 21 March 2020 08: 56 New
    +2
    Yes, how much can you endure this crisis and, according to the Orthodox commandment, turn another cheek?

    Remember the words without five minutes of the supreme ruler, that if a fight is inevitable, then you need to beat first!

    Let’s finally give a symmetrical answer, bring down this hated and unsupported dollar, this nobility is enough for us, I beg you!
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 21 March 2020 09: 48 New
      -3
      give a symmetric answer, bring down this hated and unsupported dollar


      If only a nuclear missile .... I do not see another option.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        If only a nuclear missile .... I do not see another option

        Yeah, in NATO countries, where is Bulgaria? laughing
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 22 March 2020 01: 03 New
          0
          Yeah, in NATO countries, where is Bulgaria?


          We have a different currency, it will not help with the killing of the dolar ... laughing
          But if you promise to get right in our Parliament .... then it will be just great ... laughing
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 21 March 2020 13: 21 New
      -10
      Quote: China
      Let’s finally give a symmetric answer, bring down this hated and unsupported dollar ...

      Quote: Keyser Soze
      If only a nuclear missile .... I do not see another option

      In, two trolls butting ... and it happens belay laughing
      1. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 21 March 2020 15: 08 New
        -2
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        In, two trolls butting ...

        And the third is starving, also wants to get into srach.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 21 March 2020 15: 11 New
          -8
          Quote: CT-55_11-9009
          And the third is starving, also wants to get into srach

          I certainly sympathize with you, but, unfortunately, I can’t help request
          1. CT-55_11-9009
            CT-55_11-9009 21 March 2020 15: 19 New
            -1
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: CT-55_11-9009
            And the third is starving, also wants to get into srach

            I certainly sympathize with you, but, unfortunately, I can’t help request

            Thank you for your sympathy, only I already wrapped dinner, I'm worried about you ...
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 21 March 2020 15: 22 New
              -8
              Quote: CT-55_11-9009
              ... I already screwed dinner ...

              ... and you want to eat everything? These are worms, probably belay

              .. worried about you ...

              Do not worry. And, yes - I'm inedible request
              1. CT-55_11-9009
                CT-55_11-9009 21 March 2020 15: 24 New
                -2
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                ... and you want to eat everything? These are worms, probably

                No, healthy young appetite.
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Do not worry. And, yes - I'm inedible

                Cats, dogs, and humans are edible. Or are you a Terminator? Then - yes, only for remelting.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 21 March 2020 15: 29 New
                  -8
                  Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                  No, healthy young appetite

                  Well, I understood something like this from your ad:

                  Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                  And the third is starving ...

                  Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                  And cats, dogs and humans are edible.

                  Mdya ... monsieur really understands ... laughing
                  1. CT-55_11-9009
                    CT-55_11-9009 21 March 2020 15: 29 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Mdya ... monsieur really understands ...

                    Nine years of communication with biologists just do not pass, you know.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 21 March 2020 15: 31 New
                      -7
                      Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                      Nine years of communication with biologists just do not pass

                      Hussars - keep quiet !!! laughing

                      good laughing good ... to tears... laughing

                      Why are you all today, conspiring, or what? laughing
                      1. CT-55_11-9009
                        CT-55_11-9009 21 March 2020 15: 34 New
                        -3
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                        Nine years of communication with biologists just do not pass

                        Hussars - keep quiet !!! laughing

                        good laughing good ... to tears... laughing

                        Why are you all today, conspiring, or what? laughing

                        Nah, Saturday is easy.
        2. Tank hard
          Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 34 New
          0
          Quote: CT-55_11-9009
          And the third is starving, also wants to get into srach.

          What a self-criticism! hi
    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 32 New
      0
      Quote: China
      Yes, how much can you endure this crisis and, according to the Orthodox commandment, turn another cheek?

      An interesting requirement from a user with nicknames is
      China
      repeat laughing
    4. lopvlad
      lopvlad 24 March 2020 01: 04 New
      0
      Quote: China
      unsubstantiated dollar


      no matter what. The US Army, NATO and the IMF are the pillar of the dollar.
  • Alecsandr
    Alecsandr 21 March 2020 09: 03 New
    +4
    The emphasis is on food. Oil is not all that is needed. But the whole world wants to eat and, in the light of recent events in the world, it has become obvious. Well, we do not have small stocks of ammunition, and most importantly, the agricultural sector provides many jobs and further along the product processing chain. In short, it is good to have your own farm, a garden and a gun hanging on the wall. So the person becomes self-sufficient and the state too.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 36 New
      0
      Quote: Alecsandr
      The emphasis is on food.

      In the government you need, without you nothing. request
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 21 March 2020 09: 23 New
    +5
    Everything is good, but the main enemy of food enterprises
    1. Trading networks and their monopoly position and their accumulation of profits from the sale of products.
    2. Banks with their credit rates.
    3. Supervisory authorities and, duplicating them, digitalization of everything and everything.


    As a result, profit remains in the networks and all costs are incurred by the manufacturer. But traders do not care what to sell, ours or imported.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 21 March 2020 10: 17 New
      0
      Greetings!
      1) Food chains is the best distributor of food products
      2) Banks - well, if you don’t have your own funds
      3) If you don’t do bullshit, then everything is ok with the supervisory authorities. They can try to run into it - but manufacturers usually have relevant acquaintances.
      Myself to the detriment of the networks no one sells anything)).
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 21 March 2020 11: 34 New
        +2
        You are right .... but everywhere you need tuning .....
        1. Networks - their% of the market
        2. To producers - their% profit
        3. Banks are interested in them, but it is more important for the state that industry and agriculture grow ....

        And so, taking into account the boredom of controlling packages of large VTB24 networks. We have a monopoly market. Revenues from which are unlikely to go to the budget.

        And another monopoly is capital. Big money in the country, too, does not compete much for the consumer.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2020 11: 41 New
          +2
          1) Well, not without fat)) Not every manufacturer can afford Opening a network of their own stores, like the Tkachev Agrocomplex, for example
          2) Banking, it is - by the way, I read about Sharia banks - an interesting system. There, instead of interest, a bank of the type resells you the goods for which you take a loan (car, for example) at the price set by it. The maximum percentage premium may be regulated by the state or religious oversight authority. Guselnite is an interesting system.
          3) Krasnodar Tabris is still in the hands of the owners, Five with Crossroads - Friedman, Magnet - yes, VTB sailed away))
          4) I agree - in Russia money is terribly expensive
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 21 March 2020 12: 22 New
            +3
            And networks, in turn, use commodity credit. Free of charge. And let's wait with the Agrocomplex. But they, like Yermolinsky PF, have the most lively business model today. But these are also monsters. Dinskaya MK, for example, was blown away by its trade.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 21 March 2020 12: 30 New
              +1
              Networks - yes. Naturally. Dinskaya could not stand the competition in the retail market - it’s a dreary business, you won’t be able to do without an economy like Agrokopleks.
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 21 March 2020 12: 32 New
                +3
                Magnet began to open its next to their stores and made a minimal margin there ...
                That's the whole model. Dinskaya was also a dealer in the region of everything he sold. "Nurse" is their institution. And they have their own pork.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 21 March 2020 12: 35 New
                  +1
                  So Agrokopleks opens the dots next to the Magnet and Tabris - and Nitsche, goes, it seems)).
                  Just like Dinskaya, any uncle who opened a district store nearby is already a competitor
                  Agrocomplex do not care
                  1. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 21 March 2020 12: 37 New
                    +2
                    The agricultural complex for 15 years has been the largest recipient of subsidies from the state. In some years, even Miratorg overtook. And I got the whole cycle.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 21 March 2020 12: 42 New
                      +2
                      I wonder why? laughing
                      1. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 21 March 2020 12: 42 New
                        +1
                        The surname begins at T ..... and at at ..... ends.
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 21 March 2020 12: 48 New
                        +2
                        What are you doing? ))))
                2. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 21 March 2020 12: 46 New
                  +2
                  By the way, there are entertaining statistics. 70% of STM (proper trademark) its production of Magnet. Unprofitable. This influenced the change in ownership there. At first they caught up with everyone at prices, then removed from the market and placed their production. And there was a loss.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 21 March 2020 12: 49 New
                    +2
                    Did not know
                    What I remember - Galitsky expanded much faster than he earned
                    1. Zaurbek
                      Zaurbek 21 March 2020 13: 08 New
                      +1
                      I write about the profitability of production. If they make ends meet within the network .... barely barely, then how do third-party enterprises work with networks.
                    2. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 21 March 2020 22: 54 New
                      0
                      Quote: Zaurbek
                      I write about the profitability of production. If they make ends meet within the network .... barely barely, then how do third-party enterprises work with networks.

                      I’m handing over the goods of the network to my love, without losing myself
                    3. Zaurbek
                      Zaurbek 22 March 2020 07: 51 New
                      0
                      The question is with what ..... and the question of what% is the products for the network in total.
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 21 March 2020 22: 38 New
    +2
    Quote: Krasnodar
    1) Food chains is the best distributor of food products
    2) Banks - well, if you don’t have your own funds
    3) If you don’t do bullshit, then everything is ok with the supervisory authorities. They can try to run into it - but manufacturers usually have relevant acquaintances.
    Himself to the detriment of the networks no one sells anything))

    The opinion of a person really doing something, cons from "experts" hi
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 21 March 2020 22: 59 New
      +4
      Greetings! hi
      I do not understand many of the local public - in every country there are flaws that need to be fixed. But why look for them where everything works fine? laughing
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 22 March 2020 09: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Greetings!
        I do not understand many of the local public - in every country there are flaws that need to be fixed. But why look for them where everything works fine?

        hi Strongly welcome! There is such a part of individuals who wish their country bad, however, there are probably such people in any country. request
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 March 2020 09: 55 New
          +3
          At VO they are presented too massively ..)).
  • Sergst
    Sergst 21 March 2020 09: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: China

    Let’s finally give a symmetrical answer, bring down this hated and unsupported dollar, this nobility is enough for us, I beg you!

    And you look at the Dow Jones index, in early February it was under 30 thousand, today it is around 19 thousand. This is collapse.
  • Strashila
    Strashila 21 March 2020 09: 42 New
    +8
    further produced that, who can afford it.
    "Over the past 15 years, the consumption of meat and meat products has grown by 38%, to 76 kilograms per person per year," honestly, I sit and laugh, according to statistics, this consumption was in 1990 during the Soviet era.
    Uryayayayaya, they reached the level of consumption of the end of the era of the USSR, after some thirty years.
    How many people remember those years, our rulers like to present as "starving and serving the collapse," now in the modern interpretation, the same numbers that everyone is hurt, "fat".
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 21 March 2020 17: 39 New
      +2
      In 1989 59 kg of meat and meat products (N / X of the USSR in 1990, page 670.). You may be confused.
      1. Strashila
        Strashila 21 March 2020 18: 02 New
        +1
        http://istmat.info/node/488
        22 million tons, divide by 293 million population
        1. Victor N
          Victor N 22 March 2020 16: 50 New
          0
          Talk about Russia, not the USSR. I gave the link, and the directory is next to me
  • don-1500
    don-1500 21 March 2020 09: 54 New
    0
    I didn’t read the article, I once provide .....
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 21 March 2020 10: 06 New
    +3
    All governors, without exception, say that they do not have panic in stores. Here, such window dressing can play a very cruel joke. Still, from the time of Demidov, representatives of the authorities have been taken on a “leash” to show the best. There is no panic, but we need to work in order to continue this same panic was not.
  • arlekin
    arlekin 21 March 2020 10: 12 New
    +5
    "Three years ago, the sowing wedge exceeded 80 million hectares and continues to expand further."
    In recent years, in the Amur Region, in the Khabarovsk and Primorsky Territories, vast territories have been leased to the Chinese for soybean cultivation. The Chinese, with their seed, on their machinery, with their workers, with their chemistry, grow soybeans and transport it to China.
    In the reports of the Russian ministries, this all goes like an increase in arable land, an increase in the legume crop and an increase in exports. But, in fact, this has nothing to do with any food security in Russia.
  • megadeth
    megadeth 21 March 2020 10: 22 New
    +5
    If you listen to our media, the picture is created that with a pandemic and oil below 28 bucks everything is like in a fairy tale ... The economy rises, everyone knows what to do in a pandemic, as if we have been living with it for 15 years, the ruble has collapsed almost 35%, and inflation is considered 1,2% ??????????? (the percentage of which will be recalculated pension under the new Constitution of the Russian Federation). In economically “backward” countries, such as the USA and EU countries, ordinary citizens are assigned 1000 dollars for adults and 500 dollars for children, I don’t know in the EU ..And here ... The Central Bank does not plan to pay money to the Russians in order to raise demand in a crisis. “Other countries really resort to this measure when all the rest are already exhausted. There is no such need in Russia. We have a big backlog for the rate and other measures that can support citizens and consumer activity, ”leads The Bell statement by the head of the regulator, Elvira Nabiullina.[Quote] [/ quote]
    It seems that he woke up not in 2020 but in 1980 ..........
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 21 March 2020 17: 43 New
      +1
      Another mosquito was not born, and you are already bitten. Unworthy ....
  • smart fellow
    smart fellow 21 March 2020 11: 51 New
    +2
    Why Krasnodar rice with pebbles? In Chinese, Vietnamese, and Russian seaside there are none.
  • The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 21 March 2020 12: 14 New
    +5
    Everything is ambiguous!
    Life example: there is Baltptitseprom enterprise in the region .. the region was quarantined, Europeans too ... How to import an incubation egg, a big question
  • NordUral
    NordUral 21 March 2020 14: 28 New
    0
    Storyteller! She voiced our Wishlist as her achievements. Where let domestic seed production say?
  • Operator
    Operator 21 March 2020 14: 59 New
    -1
    For 100% import substitution, Russian agriculture needs four things - domestic seeds and young animals, domestic feed additives, localization of agricultural machinery production, expansion of capacities for storage and processing of agricultural products.

    Everything else - land, water and mineral resources, human resources, energy, logistics - already exists.

    Our goal is not only to completely detach ourselves from food imports and agricultural technologies, but also to force residents of other countries (such as Israel, Poland and Bulgaria) to eat their plastic food themselves laughing
  • Storekeeper
    Storekeeper 21 March 2020 15: 59 New
    +4
    Beautiful article only has a few questions
    1. We have not seen cows at our Moscow region for four years already, we don’t import milk powder from abroad, and there is more milk than when we were allied, when the cows were on every collective farm (state farm) and on every field! Where does milk come from and what kind of milk is it?
    2. Poultry farming in our country is carried on an imported egg; our local poultry factory brings 100% from Canada. Many private traders also buy imported hatching eggs. Due to the coronavirus epidemic, the borders are closed and no eggs are imported. Gentlemen are getting ready for an increase in prices for eggs and poultry meat.
    3. But the fields really began to be cultivated much more, even in our suburbs! Those hectares that have been overgrown with grass since my childhood are now being plowed and planted and it is very pleasing !!! They sow all lawn grass for sale, potatoes, cabbage, wheat, corn, beets, and build greenhouses.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 21 March 2020 16: 31 New
      +6
      The abundance of dairy products implies a large presence of cattle, and therefore a wide range of meat products from beef with the addition of poultry and pork, but on the shelves the following are observed: meat products mainly from poultry with the addition of pork and beef ... and not expensive but beef prices bite ... laughing
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 22 March 2020 14: 41 New
        -3
        But beef, to be honest, many do not really like to eat in its pure form. If as an additive in minced pork for cutlets. I can eat chicken and turkey every day. Beef no more than once a week, just do not want to.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 21 March 2020 16: 23 New
    +2
    [B]
    Russians now consume 28 kilograms of fish and fish products per capita per year. [
    / b] Something I don’t remember, that we would eat so much fish and fish products over the past year ... Yes, and how much? ... 28 kg in childhood I could catch a fishing rod, a spinner, a spinning rod .. .with a totalitarian regime, there was a fish in each puddle and it’s absolutely not straining and you don’t go fishing every day ... And now you’ll go, you’ll take it into a glass jar of mayonnaise and rejoice, you will take a selfie and go home ... you’ll release a fish ... laughing
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 21 March 2020 18: 14 New
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      [B]
      Russians now consume 28 kilograms of fish and fish products per capita per year. [
      / b] I don’t remember something that we would have eaten so much fish and fish products over the past year ... Yes, and from where ... And now you’ll go, you’ll catch it, you will empty it into a glass jar of mayonnaise and rejoice, you will take a selfie and home ... release the fish ... laughing
      very puzzled --- and to me with whom to take a selfie? with frozen fish? laughing or better with fried? fool Mom gets everything. Not everywhere, it turns out the fish is good .... somewhere in half with ice, somewhere 10 times thawed ....
      Dependent on logistics, probably to a greater extent. We eat what is beneficial to deliver to carriers.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 21 March 2020 18: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: parusnik
      Something I don’t remember, that we would eat so much fish and fish products, last year

      This is with tails, fins, heads, and with the rest of the giblets. And Vaska the cat yells with good obscenities, so that they give him a piece.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 21 March 2020 19: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: parusnik
        Something I don’t remember, that we would eat so much fish and fish products, last year

        This is with tails, fins, heads, and with the rest of the giblets. And Vaska the cat yells with good obscenities, so that they give him a piece.

        Then, Vladimir, 28 kg should be divided by 2. Discard the intestines and heads with gills. Fresh fish is heavier than ice cream. Throw away the ice. Maybe it’s necessary to divide by 2,5 and it will be about a kilogram per month
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 21 March 2020 20: 00 New
          0
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Then, Vladimir, 28 kg should be divided by 2. Discard the intestines and heads with gills. Fresh fish is heavier than ice cream. Throw away the ice. Maybe it’s necessary to divide by 2,5

          It’s a pity, my tourist guide has failed somewhere. There was an edible table as a percentage of the product. In fish - one of the smallest percent was, I remember that for sure.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 21 March 2020 20: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            ....... Sorry, my tourist guide has failed somewhere. There was an edible table as a percentage of the product. In fish - one of the smallest percent was, I remember that for sure.
            Perhaps it is that there is more waste. But we must work to reduce these% - to chew on the bones, previously boiling, as well as the tails and fins. Yes, and the intestines are quite edible. wassat I know that Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese came up with all kinds of dishes with them.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 21 March 2020 20: 20 New
              0
              Quote: Reptiloid
              Yes, and the intestines are quite edible. I know that Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese came up with all kinds of dishes with them.

              Yes, and the Japanese. And then they suffer from all kinds of tapeworms. Somehow I gutted a fish, there is a tapeworm. Ugh, paskuda, yes it is longer than the five-story building.
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 21 March 2020 20: 30 New
                0
                If it is a lake or river fish, then it is advised to freeze for several weeks. Sometimes with friends, it happens, company, went. I also saw the tape once. Frozen negative Asians can eat a lot of things, hot spices, vinegar use a lot, even some poisonous plants are soaked and eaten
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 21 March 2020 20: 49 New
                  0
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  Frozen

                  And then alive, an eccentric, wriggled. I'm not very squeamish, but at the sight of it I wanted (moderation).
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  Asians can eat a lot of things, hot spices, vinegar use a lot, even some poisonous plants are soaked and eaten

                  We are not Asians, and not French. Somehow I caught frogs, tore off their legs, fried them, but for some reason the girls did not want to eat. recourse The fools probably do not understand anything in the food of aristocrats. And generators. laughing
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 21 March 2020 21: 09 New
                    0
                    In the late 90s, early 000s, frogs appeared in some of our supermarkets .... somehow expensive, I don’t remember .... then they disappeared. Could you secretly make paws? But I wouldn’t either. No frogs or snails. Very interesting animals. I have been in the aquarium.
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    ..... And then alive, eccentric, wriggled. I'm not very squeamish, but at the sight of it I wanted (moderation) ...... We are not Asians, and not French. Somehow I caught frogs, tore off their legs, fried them, but for some reason the girls did not want to eat. recourse The fools probably do not understand anything in the food of aristocrats. And generators. laughing
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 21 March 2020 21: 23 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      Could you secretly make paws?

                      Is that secret? Everyone saw how we caught them. However, quite a decent snack. Crunch on your teeth, and even a little meat there. winked
                      1. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 22 March 2020 03: 07 New
                        0
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        .... It's like, secretly? Everyone saw how we caught them. However, quite a decent snack. Crunch on your teeth, and even a little meat there. winked
                        always cooks give one thing out for another. lol wassat ...... some years ago, there were reports that Romania delivered to Europe under the guise of beef ---- a donkey. Or semi-finished donkey. There was dissatisfaction with the EU am am they didn’t want to eat it. And where were the old donkeys, if they (donkeys) can no longer serve a person?
            2. Petrol cutter
              Petrol cutter 21 March 2020 20: 31 New
              +3
              I think you should not bother so much. There was a conversation the other day that our godly factory was entrusted (in June / le) to lay the trawler / seiner (I honestly get confused in the fishermen). Yes, a series of ten pieces. They’ll catch us ...
              The fish will be on the first, second and third ...
              True, what question immediately visited me ?! . Guess three times.
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 21 March 2020 20: 38 New
                +1
                Well, yes, it’s definitely not worth it with poisonous plants wassat bother. You can get mushrooms from trees. Not poisonous.
                And about fishing ---- I rarely when the company comes together. Mostly at work, abnormal, rare output.
      2. parusnik
        parusnik 21 March 2020 21: 15 New
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        I have Hector-1 (Japanese chin) very fond of fish ... For him, he also caught fish ... well, like fish ... now it’s not a fish .. smile
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 22 March 2020 03: 16 New
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          Quote: parusnik
          I have Hector-1 (Japanese chin) very fond of fish ... For him, he also caught fish ... well, like fish ... now it’s not a fish .. smile
          then of course, it was necessary to provide him.
    3. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 22 March 2020 14: 44 New
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      Taking into account herring, I probably eat 50 kilograms). In any case, we buy fish with my wife two or three times a week.
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 21 March 2020 17: 48 New
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    To date, in the town of Primorsky (greater Feodosia), Crimea, famine, riots and battles for salt / matches, as well as candles / kerosene, are not observed.
    Completely without bursts and other difficulties, I personally purchased 1 kg of buckwheat groats a few hours ago in the PUD store in order to cook delicious soup tomorrow. The lack of other “backfill” by me also was not noted. In invariable quantities, actually everything is present, which was usually present.
    The only complaint to this store is the insufficient amount of the needed smoke. Do you think you take cigarettes one block a day or something?!.
    Sellers, as expected, in gas masks of the "muzzle" type, wash shelves, etc.

    But the whole hemorrhoids begin when individual layers of citizens shouting "we all die!" start to draw pasta (and other cooking) in bags. Then immediately thoughts of comrade Stalin begin to attend, and comrade Beria suddenly remembers something ... hi
  • Karabin
    Karabin 21 March 2020 17: 53 New
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    Other achievements of Russian farmers include the fourth place in the world in the production of animal feed, the fifth - in pork and cow's milk, and the seventh - in poultry eggs.

    two pictures

    In the production of milk 3/5 of the Soviet one, our shelves are bursting with cheese, butter and other milk. Take away the import of palm trees and the picture will not be so rosy. As for the success in poultry and pork, we thank the new technology. I think that captains of agribusiness are unlikely to consume their high-tech products
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 22 March 2020 14: 47 New
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      Something about road construction figures is not very trusted. In my opinion, they are now being built much more than in 1988.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 March 2020 15: 28 New
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      This is because the USSR with its entire products - supplied half of the world since the 60s, so the shelves did not break there - as for the meat on the market, it’s full of high-quality product and palm trees are mainly added to cheap products and now they have to stick all milk to eat vegetable fats or no.
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 22 March 2020 20: 26 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        This is because the USSR with its entire products - supplied half the world

        It was a deal. But the main reason is processing technology. It was impossible to get a liter of sour cream from a liter of milk. And now it’s possible. Still, it will remain on the curd.
        as for meat, the market is full of quality product
        What is considered quality? If the natural conditions of detention, quality food and care, then we get a high cost. It is unlikely that the Russian "middle class" can afford such a product, because of the final price .. The overwhelming presence in the meat market is the production of large complexes. Its parameters correspond to the accepted safety requirements, but are much inferior in quality to the meat of animals grown on the outside. Add antibiotics, vitamins, stimulants here. Piggy morning begins with an injection. At the exit, we have meat, beautifully sliced ​​and packaged, but by and large from an unhealthy organism. Do not forget about the "pre-sale" in the pumping workshop.
        Quote: Vadim237
        and palm trees are mainly added to cheap products and now they have to stick all milk to stick to vegetable fats or not.

        And who is our consumer of cheap products? Judging by the volume of imported palm, the majority of the population. It is unlikely that the sticker will change anything in the preferences when buying.
  • Earnest
    Earnest 21 March 2020 20: 44 New
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    Quote: Sardanapalus
    Stocked peled 100-150 ?? They are definitely being cultivated, and not poached. Our sea "breathes through the windows." Flounder and Navaga (the least valuable) from 100-150 are just beginning.

    What are you ??? Horror ... Navagu in Orenburg we take in the market for 160
  • O. Bender
    O. Bender 21 March 2020 22: 19 New
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    76 kg of meat per person per year, we have it. 43 kg from them. The young lady didn’t mess up anything? And who and whom they counted. In our nets, we don’t have pork, beef bites at the price. In discounters, yes, pork is 139 rubles per kg. This season, kartokha was pleased with the price and quality from 9,50 per kg to 11 rubles per kg. Moreover, ours and not from overseas.
  • olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 21 March 2020 23: 03 New
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    The article does not reflect the actual situation with goods. Starting with the fact that retailers are not consumers, market relations are relations between consumers and producers. It should be dictated by consumers, not intermediaries, administratively cracking down on small farms and introducing products that are advantageous to them, which consumers are forced to buy for lack of another.
    First of all, food must be fresh. The population will buy goods of a local manufacturer, since only they can be delivered to the store fresh without the use of chemicals for safety. The optimal storage method is freezing. For example, the caught fish is frozen, and the consumer defrosts it immediately before cooking. Such foods are called fresh frozen. But fresh-frozen fish is not on sale: there is frozen-thawed-soaked with substances to increase the volume- frozen-thawed to freeze an additional layer of ice, spoiled fish. As a result, the weight is large, after cleaning and cooking, the yield is less than half. The figures in the fish report do not reflect reality, because people eat fish, gutted and without frozen moisture. The same thing happens with chickens. It should be either fresh (short storage period) or frozen once. But on the shelves, if not frozen, then repeatedly frozen and thawed, fresh not for sale and fresh frozen either.
    The population will buy first of all the goods of the local manufacturer, as these products may be fresh, but due to the climate production costs are higher than in warm countries. However, transportation and measures for the preservation of imported products are expensive, as a result, they are not cheaper than local products. But local products provide employment, jobs, salaries, taxes. Those. the interests of the state and the population coincide, and the interests of retailers are contrary to the interests of the people and the country.
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 22 March 2020 17: 32 New
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      “However, transportation and measures to preserve imported products are expensive, and as a result, they are not cheaper than local products. But local products provide employment, jobs, salaries, taxes. That is, the interests of the state and the population coincide, and the interests of retailers run counter to the interests of the people and countries. "
      But in this place I strongly agree.