To the 35th anniversary of Gorbachev's perestroika: a clear plan or complete improvisation of the USSR authorities

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35 years have passed since the energetic young leader Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev came to power in the country and the party, immediately declaring himself to be a reformer of the socio-political and economic system in the USSR. The same Gorbachev, who first set the course for "acceleration" and then for "perestroika".

A month and a half after being elected General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, Gorbachev held a plenary session of the Central Committee, at which he proclaimed a course to accelerate the economic and social development of the USSR. The previous period (not particularly outlining its time frame) at the plenum was described as “stagnant”.



Historians argue whether Gorbachev had a plan to modernize the country and its political system. Some claim to be. As an argument, they recall a certain plan of economic reforms, as if being developed in 1983-1984 on behalf of the Secretary General of the CPSU Central Committee, Yuri Andropov.

The argument is extremely doubtful. Due to the fact that it contradicts the real policy of Andropov, imprisoned for the Bolshevik coercion of the people to labor discipline. In addition, party practice at that time included a discussion of plans and programs being developed in primary organizations and at plenary sessions of higher committees. None of this was close.

Therefore, we agree with the position of those who call Gorbachev's reforms improvisation. What was seen in them quite definitely was the policy of changing the party elite. It was implemented, as they say, in all the blades. Within a year and a half, the composition of the highest political leadership (Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU) was renewed by 70%, and the heads of republican and regional party organizations by 60%. The government of the country has split even stronger. Of the 115 members of the Council of Ministers of the USSR who were appointed before 1985, Gorbachev left only 10.

He began his reforms with an anti-alcohol company and quickly destroyed the country's budget. The fact is that the sale of alcohol accounted for a quarter of the revenue of trade entering the treasury. Approximately the same share was accounted for by alcohol in the volume of the cost of production of the food industry.

In total, the country's budget has lost more than 40 billion rubles (of the total fees of 390 billion). The lost income could not be replaced. But ordinary Soviet people responded to a reduction in the sale of alcohol by an increase of 18% in sugar consumption (by 1,4 million tons).

It is estimated that 140-150 million decalitres of moonshine were made from it. But it is reliably known: from 1985 to 1987, 577 thousand citizens were detained for moonshining! At the same time, sales of alcohol-containing glue BF increased to 1000 tons (32%).

Bitter outcomes


Be that as it may, these throwings by Gorbachev and his team will be called the first stage of Perestroika. The second will begin in January 1987 with a plenum of the CPSU Central Committee, which proclaimed radical changes in economic and political relations in the country and its foreign policy.

In the economy, individual labor activity was stimulated, cooperatives and joint ventures with foreign companies were created. In domestic politics, they announced the democratization of society, the reform of political institutions and publicity in the media. In international relations, the New Thinking doctrine has become dominant, proclaiming the rejection of the class approach in diplomacy and the improvement of relations with the West.

Under these new revolutionary directions of state policy, in a good way, there should be a base worked out in specialized research institutes of that time. Among them, for example, was a whole institute of socio-economic research.

However, the party leadership took as its basis not scientific knowledge, but its own point of view. As a result, it shook the whole country. In the economy, a conflict arose between regulated wages at state enterprises and free - in private business. This caused widespread discontent among people.

In public relations. The lifting of a number of justifiable bans paved the way for the creation of nationalist and separatist organizations. From that time, for example, the Ukrainian party "RUH". Initially named as the “People’s Movement of Ukraine for Perestroika,” it quickly mimicked into a radical nationalist organization, from which later the leaders of all Ukrainian Maidans left the ranks.

In international politics. Improving relations with the West has led to the unilateral surrender of the country's geopolitical position. Now, some experts interpret these actions of the highest leadership of the USSR as a betrayal. Let us dwell on a milder assessment - “ill-conceived policy”.

In any case, this reflects the lack of a detailed action plan. It is this approach that characterizes the second (1987–1989) base stage of Perestroika. At this time, conditions were formed for the further degradation and destruction of the country and the party. It is no coincidence that historians attribute the third stage (1989–1991) to the period of destabilization of the social and political situation that directly led to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

People say: measure seven times - cut one. Improvisation in politics, which Mikhail Gorbachev allowed himself, brought many Soviet people suffering and misery, brought down a great country. We must always remember this bitter lesson.
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  1. +15
    20 March 2020 10: 07
    In total, the country's budget has lost more than 40 billion rubles (of the total fees of 390 billion). The lost income could not be replaced. But ordinary Soviet people responded to a reduction in alcohol sales by an increase of 18% in sugar consumption (by 1,4 million tons). It is estimated that 140-150 million decalitres of moonshine were made from it. But it is reliably known: from 1985 to 1987, 577 thousand citizens were detained for moonshining! At the same time, sales of alcohol-containing glue BF increased to 1000 tons (32%).
    Here is no harm to the people of the USSR, no one has yet done.
    1. -19
      20 March 2020 10: 13
      Here is no harm to the people of the USSR, no one has yet done.

      You Communists will not see trees in the forest))))
      Without a clear plan created by Andropov, Gorbachev would never, I repeat, never would have carried out the collapse of the USSR alone. It just cannot be done alone. It’s like in the army - it’s impossible to make a coup alone - you’ll just be shot like a lost sheep.
      1. +10
        20 March 2020 11: 00
        Why are you trifling, still indicate nicholas, they say he took, abdicated, thereby bringing the Bolsheviks to power, but seriously, who in the Politburo pushed the tagged one? Former ambassador to the United States, Yakovlev.
        1. +4
          20 March 2020 11: 13
          there was not one MSG and Yakovlev --- THERE WERE HUNDREDS !!! OFFICIALS AND SAGES, SOMEONE DECIDED "IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO LIVE"
          the collapse increased gradually - with the departure, replacement of the older generation. and under Brezhnev, and under Andropov.
          The main thing is to refuse subsidies to the outskirts (including Warsawsk Dog-r), the economy must be economical, then efficient.
          the outskirts did not fit into the new realities, they were dropped.
      2. +10
        20 March 2020 12: 21
        the hunchback was not alone. he had a team. where did she come from it’s just the fifth column that hates everything Soviet.
      3. +3
        21 March 2020 08: 58
        Quote: lucul
        Gorbachev never, I repeat, would never have carried out the collapse of the USSR alone.

        + To you! The task of the Gorbachev team was to introduce into the public consciousness such false ideas about the world that would allow further manipulation of both the country's population and its ruling elite.
        The restructuring was carried out like clockwork! A continuous series of blows was inflicted on the public consciousness, breaking the basic points of support, for example: the fight against alcoholism coincided with the abolition of the state monopoly on alcohol, Freedom of Speech was turned into muddy socialist achievements, Solzhenitsyn was turned into a fighter for Freedom, and Freedom was called the possibility of earning any "dirty" money .
        The article does not say a word about Yakovlev, the ideologist of perestroika, Matias Rust, and others.
        1. -1
          21 March 2020 20: 35
          Quote: aybolyt678
          The restructuring was carried out as if by notes! A continuous series of blows was struck against the public consciousness, breaking the basic points of support, for example: the fight against alcoholism coincided with the abolition of the state monopoly on alcohol,

          It is more than strange that even the Communist Party does not stutter about restoring the state monopoly on alcohol and a substantial increase in the budget due to this. Now privately owned and wineries that were built as state-owned until 1917 and remained so after.
          1. 0
            21 March 2020 22: 35
            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            More than strange then

            Strange? wassat
            1. 0
              22 March 2020 00: 03
              Quote: aybolyt678
              Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
              More than strange then

              Strange?

              Isn't it strange that the question of nationalization of the wine and vodka industry does not raise not one from political forces? Or are there no such forces?
              1. 0
                22 March 2020 08: 37
                Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                none of the political forces? Or are there no such forces?

                Socialism is not the nationalization of everything and everything, Socialism is the prevalence of public interests over personal ones. Sweden - up to 70% of income pays richer. Is this not an element of socialism? Public ownership of the means of production is only a way of distributing material benefits. Progressive tax is the same. Which political force offers a different philosophy? ideology? You need to start with ideology, and not select everything .....
                1. 0
                  22 March 2020 09: 39
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  You need to start with ideology, and not select everything .....

                  I repeat: the state wineries of tsarist Russia were left state-owned by the Soviet government. So where is "select and divide" here?
                  I hope there is no need to explain about the industry’s efficiency for budgets. hi
                  1. 0
                    22 March 2020 09: 48
                    Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                    So where is "select and divide" here?
                    You have already answered this question:
                    More than strange, even the Communist Party does not stutter about the restoration of the state monopoly on alcohol and a substantial increase in the budget due to this

                    IMHO: - The Communist Party is nothing more than a name ... sad They are all victims of consumer ideology
      4. 0
        27 March 2020 09: 41
        Yes easily. You just have to be a leader.
        There is a clear plan ... for landscaping.
        9.00 Brigade-1 with shovels digs holes (after which it leaves for another section).
        9.30 Brigade-2 throws fertilizer into the wells (after which to station 2)
        10.00 Brigade-3 brings and sticks trees in the holes.
        10.30. Team 4 digs trees using choppers
        11.00 Team-5 watering the trees.
        11.30. Team 6 cleaning the territory.
        12.00 journalists come and make a story that thanks to the party / mayor / god / president we have a new green site. On frames a beautiful green area.
        The plan is time-tested, works great, everyone is happy. Here are just a new leadership that implements management, decides to improve this plan.
        Option 1. The first to arrive (at 9.00) are journalists, and since the text has already been agreed upon, he simply takes a picture. As a result, it goes that "thanks to the party / mayor / god / president, we have a new green area and frames of empty space."
        Although initially the idea was "let the journalists shoot first an empty section, and then a green one - they say, feel the difference."
        Option-2 any other sequence of arrival of brigades: first they water, then they dig, they first stick trees, then they try to bury them, first they throw fertilizers, then they water, then they dig holes and plant trees.
        If we add more conditions to this plan, let's say there was a territory that needs to be cleaned at 9.00, debris removed at 9.30, Brigade-10.00 starts digging holes at 1, but it will be even clearer to rearrange the sequence. First, trees were planted, then a team arrives and removes ALL.
        In addition, each team clearly performs its work.
    2. +20
      20 March 2020 10: 17
      a clear plan or complete improvisation of the USSR authorities

      A clear US plan for the collapse of the Soviet empire was carried out by Gorbachev. And so far, no one has evaluated this crime. Except for Gorbachev's pension of 600 tons rubles ..
      1. +14
        20 March 2020 10: 31
        Quote: Svarog
        was carried out by Gorbachev.

        because he was a sucker! sweet songs were sung to him and as a typical sucker he was seduced. The idea was good, execution is disgusting.
        1. +11
          20 March 2020 10: 35
          Quote: Overlock
          The idea was good, execution is disgusting.

          So everyone bought the idea .. the idea was really good .. but the performers took this idea in a different direction .. this is the betrayal .. Yeltsin continued. Putin will not continue to know how long .. and in the end we will turn into Africa ..
          1. +7
            20 March 2020 11: 04
            Although it’s warm in Africa, it rarely snows, and we can’t gas the country humanly, I’ll say more 25 km from Moscow to people who estimated 10 times, and things, and now there, that's what I mean
            1. +1
              21 March 2020 11: 35
              The Lipetsk region is all gasified, the question is who is to blame for the fact that there is no gas 25 km from Moscow?
          2. +9
            20 March 2020 12: 25
            Quote: Svarog
            the performers took this idea in a different direction .. this is the betrayal .. Yeltsin continued. Putin will continue to

            As a result, we have not understood for 30 years what we are building and where we are going. but it’s already clear that we’re going to good.
        2. +1
          21 March 2020 09: 03
          Quote: Overlock
          The idea was good, execution is disgusting.

          There was no idea .. There was a thirst for change, which was transformed into a thirst for capitalism with the help of a caste of ideological priests, who covered their actions with “Marxism-Leninism”, but in fact they attacked their own country in coordination with the West.
      2. +6
        20 March 2020 10: 34
        We cannot forget this mug. Started an anti-alcohol company and ruined the budget. But is the current situation not similar? How much does the oil and gas sector carry to the budget?
        1. +9
          20 March 2020 12: 29
          Quote: 210ox
          We can't forget this mug

          no one will ever forget this Judah.
        2. 0
          21 March 2020 09: 13
          Quote: 210ox
          But is the current situation not similar?

          she is like a lack of purpose and responsibility.
      3. +16
        20 March 2020 10: 37
        He sold such a country to the mercy of the criminal greyhound and world imperialism! am
        1. +8
          20 March 2020 12: 32
          but he doesn’t care. he receives a pension from Russia. West he is paid for his publication. his descendants are attached.
          with great pleasure would have looked at his execution by hanging.
          when he dies the people will have a holiday!
      4. +15
        20 March 2020 10: 42
        Quote: Svarog
        And so far, no one has evaluated this crime.

        Appreciated, and how!
        One Russian politician said
        Gorbachev contributes to "raising Russia's prestige in the world"
        1. +19
          20 March 2020 10: 51
          But the leavened people do not see an obvious close connection between the "head club" and the marked point-blank.
          1. +7
            20 March 2020 11: 16
            Quote: lexus
            But the leavened people do not see an obvious close connection between the "head club" and the marked point-blank.

            Something slips occasionally
            It is important that you work hard today, pay constant attention to significant social work, and implement the humanitarian projects that are in demand. I wish you good health and success.
            1. +9
              20 March 2020 12: 15
              "Ill-considered policy"?!?
              The author, forgive me, I refuse your consent! Even before being elected General Secretary, Gorbachev visited England, met with Thatcher, and there they agreed on the terms of surrender of the USSR. The visit was widely covered on television and was enthusiastically commented on, the national republics got it right, separatism instantly raised its head and began to blossom and smell like the death of "non-indigenous". From here, from the RSFSR, you could not see anything. Except that vodka has become a shortage. And we, who were in the republics, could see everything at once. And the "non-indigenous" immediately got ready to leave for their ethnic homelands, but no one was buying housing. We were told: "You are guests here! Have you stayed? Enough!" The idea "My address is not a house or a street, my address is the Soviet Union" died instantly. We were told: "We will take your housing for this!" Have taken. They took for something that profited dozens of working years. Betrayal! A betrayal carried out according to an elaborate plan! Of those who are from there, from the national outskirts, no one doubts for a single second the background of events, of Gorbachev's betrayal. It was impossible to do anything. The organization, whose representative now leads Russia, has worked powerfully.
              1. +3
                20 March 2020 12: 38
                Quote: depressant
                Of those who are from there, from the national suburbs, no one for one second doubts the background of events, the betrayal of Gorbachev. It was impossible to do anything.

                They tried, but they quickly pressed our tail. The referendum in the Baltics was prohibited by this figure, but we ourselves collected about 2 million signatures, they were not counted. And these were not the voices of the aborigines, but of us "occupiers". On August 20, 1991, by order of this figure, the Pskov Airborne Division was not allowed into Estonia, but in the morning of August 20, Kaitselit was armed with AKMs and was sitting on an armored personnel carrier. On September 6, the Supreme Soviet of the USSR recognized Estonia as independent. But maybe it saved us too, like Belarus, we did not have bloodshed, unlike other republics. I do not know how Mother Earth carries such an inhuman creature.
                1. +6
                  20 March 2020 12: 55
                  And we, a colleague, put tanks in the middle of our small city in Abkhazia. So that no one rock the boat while the country is being prepared for collapse. Letters opened by mail, the telegraph did not work. And at night the gang of Nazis raged - they came to the Russians' houses, before they killed the family, they tortured people for many hours so that in the nearest houses the people could not sleep from screams, they turned gray in the morning. It was useless to call the police - did not come. The city was plunged into gloomy horror, complete demoralization. And then, when they achieved this very demoralization, they took the gang, they strangled the leader in prison. But the deed has already been done. The people were filled with understanding: trembling, and you will not just end - you will pray for the killers for death. After all, creating a new gang does not cost anything, those who want to enter it go through the streets, look into your eyes, grin. And all are relatives and friends of the leaders of the local government.
              2. 0
                21 March 2020 10: 02
                Quote: depressant

                "Ill-considered policy"?!?
                The author, I'm sorry, I refuse your consent!

                This is the most elaborate policy of world capitalism for the entire 20th century, which led to the death of our state of the USSR.
          2. Fat
            -2
            20 March 2020 15: 03
            Quote: lexus
            But the leavened people do not see an obvious close connection between the "head club" and the marked point-blank.

            And Nitsche, that Putin and G. Kissinger shook hands?
            "All decent people started out in intelligence" (C)
            What is this, "obvious connection"?
            1. +2
              20 March 2020 18: 35
              By the way, G. Kissinger is a very clever and pragmatic politician. And this example is not appropriate. And can a "decent person" fight this satanic image?
        2. +8
          20 March 2020 12: 33
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Appreciated, and how!

          but they should have pulled him up on the gallows ...
      5. 0
        22 March 2020 09: 52
        Quote: Svarog
        And so far, no one has evaluated this crime.

        And did anyone sue him to qualify this as a crime officially?
    3. +9
      20 March 2020 12: 05
      To the 35th anniversary of Gorbachev perestroika

      again this tagged jumped out to him ...
      1. +3
        20 March 2020 12: 39
        Quote: Arlen
        again this tagged jumped out to him ...

        Like "the devil in the snuffbox"!
    4. w70
      -3
      20 March 2020 19: 59
      Gentlemen Sub-lieutenants and Sub-Lieutenants, admit that all the same, Mikhail Sergeyevich allowed us not to go in formation under your drunken cries
      1. +5
        20 March 2020 20: 51
        Gentlemen Sub-lieutenants and Sub-Lieutenants, admit that all the same, Mikhail Sergeyevich allowed us not to go in formation under your drunken cries


        second lieutenant - spelled without "t". In the Soviet army was comrade lieutenant. You have gentlemen now. Under their drunken antics you crawl. And you definitely won’t find a council on them anywhere. Even Mikhail Sergeyevich.
  2. +23
    20 March 2020 10: 08
    To the 35th anniversary of Gorbachev's perestroika: a clear plan or complete improvisation of the USSR authorities

    Corpus delicti. The plan, of course, was with the United States and Great Britain. And the labeled one improvised with a protruding pocket, where the dollars were popped, and with his monkey, on which the tzatsks hung. Judah is ordinary.
    1. +15
      20 March 2020 10: 29
      Let me join - more like a clear plan for the collapse of a great country. Gorbachev-Judah.
    2. +7
      20 March 2020 10: 44
      Quote: lexus
      Judah is ordinary.

      He sold the country for 30 wooden rubles, worse than Judas.
    3. +4
      20 March 2020 11: 36
      Perhaps the United States and Great Britain had a plan. But in this case, he was repeatedly exceeded. And the Communist leader buried a great country.
  3. +1
    20 March 2020 10: 09
    It is worth "noting" ... well, without clinking glasses .......
    1. +7
      20 March 2020 10: 21
      wash the monitor again ...
      1. +6
        20 March 2020 10: 23
        Spit or gag reflex awake?
      2. +1
        20 March 2020 11: 19
        monitor wash ...--
        --- Is spitting, a spoon in the bottomless barrel of Russia's power?
        -or saliva into the stream pouring into the mill of the enemies of the Russian Federation?
        so determine the need for "spit-wash"
        1. +4
          20 March 2020 11: 50
          determine the need to "spit-wash"

          Everything in life is interconnected ... one must wait for the other ... wink
      3. 0
        20 March 2020 11: 39
        Quote: Aerodrome
        wash the monitor again.

        [media = https: //lightaudio.ru/mp3/mikhail%20gorbachev]
        Then listen.
    2. +5
      20 March 2020 10: 24
      eh, Masha love what country about ... lost ... without clinking glasses!
      1. +6
        20 March 2020 10: 30
        Hello, Roman! love
        Black ribbon portrait of the USSR curtained ...
        And sadness eats me, longing ...
        Let's drink a stack for this ...
        For all the past ...
        When I was young .... crying
        1. +6
          20 March 2020 10: 31
          communism is the youth of the world and to build it young ... the construction team remembered something ..
          1. +5
            20 March 2020 10: 47
            Quote: novel xnumx
            the construction team remembered something ..

            drinks
          2. +3
            20 March 2020 10: 48
            Quote: novel xnumx
            communism is the youth of the world and to build it young ... the construction team remembered something ..

            I do not regret, do not call, do not cry,
            Everything will pass, like smoke from white apple trees.
            Wilted gold covered,
            I will not be any more young.

            Yes, everything went away, and somehow quickly.
  4. +5
    20 March 2020 10: 22
    I’ll see his photo ..... I would put a suitable emoticon, but it’s impossible.
    1. +4
      20 March 2020 10: 50
      Quote: Blacksmith 55

      I’ll see his photo ..... I would put a suitable emoticon, but you can’t

      Move the photo 3 meters away from you.
      1. +4
        20 March 2020 12: 42
        Move the photo 3 meters away from you.

        Is it better to see you? laughing
        1. 0
          20 March 2020 14: 10
          Quote: Masha
          Is it better to see you?

          Yes, not mine (I’m already scary) but Gorbach, you won’t spit.
          1. +4
            20 March 2020 14: 27
            Quote: tihonmarine
            (I'm already scary)

            we are all beautiful! but somewhere deep down .... somewhere very deep .....
      2. +1
        20 March 2020 16: 11
        I’m in this face and from 5 meters I will get saliva without aiming.
        1. +4
          20 March 2020 16: 40
          Quote: AK1972
          I’m in this face and from 5 meters I will get saliva without aiming.

          that's why saliva to spend? centuries ago darts came up with ....... wink
    2. +5
      20 March 2020 12: 20
      Why smile? Target sign!
  5. +7
    20 March 2020 10: 25
    Why procrastinate the theme of the collapse of the Great Country. People know who is to blame for this tragedy. And the first tv.a.s. They stand each other.

    Why are the forum users excited by these articles?
    All you need to know is the date the traitor dies. The rest we have already experienced in our own skin, experiments of Westerners in the persecution of our people.
    1. +4
      20 March 2020 10: 38
      Do not wash the stained politician with any soap! negative
      1. +3
        20 March 2020 11: 36
        Quote: bessmertniy

        Do not wash the stained politician with any soap!

        So far, science has not been able to create such a soap, but here I.V. Stalin created such a soap for such.
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  6. +9
    20 March 2020 10: 29
    Improvisation in politics, which Mikhail Gorbachev allowed himself, brought many Soviet people suffering and misery, brought down a great country. We must always remember this bitter lesson.

    in fact, this should be remembered by the authorities, since it determines the trend for our development. But the fact that the country's economy is not subject to the laws of the economy, but depends entirely on political expediency, is what you are talking about unlearned lessons of history.
    1. +4
      20 March 2020 12: 26
      But the fact that the country's economy is not subject to the laws of the economy, but depends entirely on political expediency, is what you are talking about unlearned lessons of history.

      These economies do not smell! Betrayal, theft and destruction of the country!
  7. +3
    20 March 2020 10: 29
    The collapse of the USSR began in December 1986 in Alma-Ata (Zheltoskan) with the appointment of Kolbin as the first secretary of the Communist Party of Kazakhstan.
    1. +1
      20 March 2020 11: 04
      Quote: Arzt
      The collapse of the USSR began in December 1986 in Alma-Ata (Zheltoskan) with the appointment of Kolbin as the first secretary of the Communist Party of Kazakhstan.

      And in our country, when in 1988 Gorbachev appointed Vyaino Vyalis 1 Secretary of the Eestimaa Kommunistlik Partei.
  8. +4
    20 March 2020 10: 32
    I would add also the self-confidence with the stupidity of the "resort secretary".
    BUT! By that time, in the hands of the Komsomol-party mafia, stolen valuables had accumulated in their hands, which had to be "attached" somewhere. And the "execution" currency clause was still in effect in the mid-80s. A way out was found.
  9. +2
    20 March 2020 10: 32
    Stupidity is the most destructive force in history! And Tagged brilliantly proved it ...
    1. +5
      20 March 2020 12: 28
      Aren't we stupid? They spit on our faces, but only wipe ourselves, hoping that this is a mistake. Dozens, maximum hundreds, go to rallies. The Communist Party generally lays down on these. Left and in general patriotic opposition leaders cannot unite in any way. And time runs briskly, we, the Soviet, will leave. and all!
  10. +3
    20 March 2020 10: 47
    This pee pee pee ... had a clear goal and task! unfortunately, unfortunately .... the task was completed.
  11. 0
    20 March 2020 10: 54
    Come on. Hunchback at least introduced freedom of speech under the name "glasnost".
    1. +2
      20 March 2020 11: 08
      Speak where you want, but to the point ???
    2. +4
      20 March 2020 12: 32
      Glasnost is the cover for thieves and traitors. All the years of perestroika, we reveled in it, and these divided the country.
      1. +4
        20 March 2020 12: 56
        I will give an example of how we were divorced in the 80s, although this example is far from politics, but not from the essence of the process of divorce.
    3. +2
      20 March 2020 13: 17
      Are you sure about publicity? To say that Lenin and Stalin are bad - please. But what is Gorbachev wrong you tried?
  12. +3
    20 March 2020 11: 06
    Yesterday I wrote, when the Jew saw the west, in an expensive suit, everyone understood right away, this one would sell EVERYTHING.
  13. +5
    20 March 2020 11: 10
    With all his dislike for Gorbachev, he wouldn’t be able to crank out this scam.
    But all responsibility for the collapse of the USSR lies with him
  14. DPN
    0
    20 March 2020 11: 12
    The best GERMAN has not been punished, a large country has passed away. It’s good that Russia’s oil and gas went and thanks for that.
    1. +5
      20 March 2020 12: 34
      But I’m not sure that oil, gas and ...... remained with Russia. We can see from the open source that we get flogged. But to whom it all belongs is a big question.
  15. +1
    20 March 2020 11: 19
    And Pavlo any reform, with "this" carried out ...
  16. +4
    20 March 2020 11: 24
    What kind of, sorry, kindergarten. The mechanism of perestroika, its preparation, and the ideas underlying it have been studied literally thoroughly. There is no need for gag. Can contact directly to the memories "rebuilding architects".
    We read- "" A group of true, not imaginary reformers developed (of course, orally) the following plan: to hit Stalin, Stalinism with the authority of Lenin. And then, if successful, Plekhanov and Social Democracy to beat Lenin, liberalism and "moral socialism "- about revolutionaryism in general.
    A new round of exposing the "Stalin personality cult" has begun. But not with an emotional cry, as Khrushchev did, but with a clear implication: the criminal is not only Stalin, but the system itself is criminal. ”
    And that was long before the mid-80s. Indeed, perestroika did not begin on its own, and Gorbachev did not on its own become the General Secretary of the CPSU.
    What the hell is "improvisation"?
    We will continue to descend along the spiral of market hell until we take a sober look at the surrounding reality.
    1. +4
      20 March 2020 12: 35
      Clear layout. It all started with the death of Stalin.
  17. +2
    20 March 2020 11: 31
    Like children, by golly. They poke fingers into a puffy figure and cry for a great country. A great country cannot fall apart in 5 years, through the efforts of one person. Or even 100. This is a movement of social matter, it cannot be overcome by one person, you can only head what Humpback did. 1960-1961 is the turning point, after which, without urgent, merciless actions to clean up the party and nomenclature, reorganize the economic space and public life, the successful existence of the USSR was impossible.
  18. +1
    20 March 2020 11: 38
    The US plan was simpler and cheaper. To prove to the Soviet people that everything in the USSR is worse than in the West, although as we see, not everything was worse. The second is to prove that if there is capitalism, it will immediately become like in the West for all Soviet people.
    Many still believe in this.
    You don’t have to do anything else, then the people themselves will take everything down.
    It’s not Gorbachev’s fault, but all of us together with Gorbachev.
  19. 0
    20 March 2020 11: 46
    It's even weird to discuss. But ,, the world went crazy ,,, so we are discussing ...
    More than 100 years ago, in all the serious states of the traitors to the motherland, it was a reality. They hung, and not shot, for example. Hanging for millennia is considered a shameful execution. If you carefully try to explain (the level of such a ,, spiritual-material ,,,) the soul leaves the body through the mouth. In ordinary conditions of natural death ...
    ,, Ordinary ordinary people ,, (conveniently, briefly and correctly, since we are with - ufo ,,) more and more try to control the WHOLE WORLD. Naturally, they impose on us, PEOPLE, their crazy morality. We love the Motherland, about n and - cosmopolitans. We love God, they are Satan, we love people, they also use people for ,, pokatusheks ,, (operation), for the production of soap, fertilizers, leather goods, cosmetics ... We love our families , they inspire homosexuality and childfree. ,, Hug fraternally ,, with n and m and fail. As it did not work out for our ancestors, neither in 1917, nor in 1918-22. Then, in order to cut down the boble, the UFOs unleashed the THOSE AND ORGANIZED slaughter - the Great War, 1914-18. (By the way, they didn’t plan to end it in 1918). Russian men suffered how much this bloody nonsense could tolerate. And then they said decisively: ,, ENOUGH !!! ,,. And they dared, with God's help, both their own and other people's UFOs.
    The restoration of capitalism in Russia at the end of the XNUMXth century is a revenge of its own and those of other ordinary nonhumans. They are organized, determined, unprincipled and rich. How to win? Only with God's help! The Great Suvorov said: ,, To teach the faithless army - what to grind burnt iron ,,. We will be serious ORTHODOX warriors - we will defeat, drive and x ,, by holes ,,. We will be worthless ,, balalaikas ,, about n and we will finally be driven into a giant ,, electronic ,, concentration camp. And the role, heavie, in it will be played by such ..., the letter ,, g ,, ..
  20. +4
    20 March 2020 12: 06
    Who is this article for? For those who do not know abundantly surfaced invoices for that period.
    The Soviet highest party and economic elite, its closest associates, since the beginning of the 70s have embarked on a rapprochement with the capitalist West with the introduction of the USSR they control in that world. The party farm elite planned to get its share and join the elite of the West on an equal footing with that right.
    Since 1986, for the average party and Komsomol asset, courses and trainings in economics and finance have been held focused on a capitalist understanding of the process. And these were high-quality courses. Even then, a division of spheres of influence is carried out in which Komsomol members are given a grassroots and middle economy and finance, and party members control organized crime groups (with the help of the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs) and with its help higher flows of finance.
    Hundreds of billions were deposited in the accounts of foreign banks under the guise of some funds. The lion's share of oil and gas sales, foreign trade operations, shipping by the Soviet merchant fleet ... It would be nice to know the prices at which grain was purchased - is there a 200% overpayment from the market price ... That damn even Levays jeans did our two best factories 100% shipping products to the USA ...
    This trend existed earlier (from the 60s to the 83rd it was expressed by Andropov and his group), it was just Stalin who postponed her triumph for a while.
    Plan? "-Do you have a plan, Mr. Fix?" "- Oh, I have a bag of plans, Mr. Fogh!"
    There were plans. And they were realized. Step by step. In stages.
    T.N. The "anti-alcohol company" is, first of all, a distraction: squandering finances from it is an additional bonus.
    Gorbachev personally did not control much. If you understand the concepts, then he stupidly threw him here and there. Figuratively speaking, he wanted to become a Soviet oligarch prince with recognized princely dignity in the West, and became a pizza advertiser ...
    1. +2
      20 March 2020 12: 34
      Great comment, Private Private-k! I support fully and completely. I testify: it was so. And it was visible to the naked eye.
  21. 0
    20 March 2020 12: 11
    Was it the Andropov plan, or was it the work of his students?
    1. +1
      20 March 2020 12: 35
      Joint plan with the CIA.
  22. +1
    20 March 2020 12: 13
    The plan was clear, so they managed to ... deceive everyone. As a result, we have what we have plus a coronovirus on a global scale and the decline of capitalism by hand. What did they think? Our leaders manage to ruin everything that they enter into together and at the head. And most importantly: no improvisations!
    1. +1
      20 March 2020 12: 36
      Yes, now we have Don Reba in power. Whom will he bring?
  23. +2
    20 March 2020 12: 26
    Well, yes, there are two options. Either Gorbachev and his "associates" were stupid as a navel, or he was a foreign agent. I suppose it was both. Unfortunately, the Soviet elite at that time was so stupefied and decayed, completely rejecting the concept of "real work", that the USSR already had no chance.
    Remember the State Emergency Committee? The grandfathers announced their "return", and ... sat down to sit down. Doing nothing, as they used to. Announced, and it is like itself now ... Ugh!
    1. 0
      20 March 2020 12: 52
      Most likely, the USSR had no chance in that system of power, which inevitably led to degradation and the desire to exchange power for money, having sold the country.
      1. +3
        20 March 2020 13: 33
        Quote: Pavel57
        the USSR had no chance in that system of power that inevitably led to degradation

        What is your evidence? And you do not look back. Look into the distance and at least sometimes under your feet. What will happen in three months?
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  25. +3
    20 March 2020 13: 40
    If you read what Mechenny himself writes about "perestroika", it turns out that at first he wanted, as Raechka told him, to make life in the USSR, as in Europe, and then he got carried away by Yakovlev's ideas and the situation got out of control. That is, the dude played with the reforms, without understanding their consequences and for the sake of applause from the west. Now let's think a little about the current situation. Now in Russia everyone refers to the coronavirus. But let's look back a little and what do we see? And we will see that, for no reason at all, the government ordered to remove the board with exchange rates from the streets. What for? It is clear that in order not to frighten the population with the obvious exchange rate of the ruble. Now the second is that electronic displays of price tags in stores have been intensively introduced. Again, why? And then, in order to change prices quickly and possibly several times a day, in conditions of galloping inflation. Plus, the government's assurances not to keep money in foreign currency, but to keep it in rubles. Hence the conclusion - the current situation, the collapse of the ruble and inflation, which will necessarily follow, were prepared and calculated in advance.
  26. 0
    20 March 2020 14: 08
    And what is analytics here?
  27. +1
    20 March 2020 14: 29
    People say: measure seven times - cut one. Improvisation in politics, which Mikhail Gorbachev allowed himself, brought many Soviet people suffering and misery, brought down a great country. We must always remember this bitter lesson.

    I agree, and not only suffering and misfortune, many simply died, this should not be forgotten either.
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  29. +1
    20 March 2020 15: 58
    Tsar Nikolai renounced Russia ONE time in 1917.
    Gorbachev renounced the USSR ONCE once in 1991.
    The Russian people disowned Russia 7 times in the elections since 1991.
    And asks the question: why are not Russians ruled by Russia?
  30. +1
    20 March 2020 16: 02
    For the first time, the “Dulles Plan” appeared in the publication of the speech of the Metropolitan of St. Petersburg and Ladoga John (Snychev) in the newspaper “Soviet Russia” on February 20, 1993:

    “By sowing chaos in Russia,” said American General Allen Dulles, head of US political intelligence in Europe, who later became director of the CIA, in 1945, “we will quietly replace their values ​​with false ones and make them believe in these false values.” How? We will find our like-minded people, our assistants and allies in Russia itself. Episode by episode will be played out with a grandiose scale tragedy of the death of the most rebellious people on earth, the final, irreversible fading of their self-consciousness. From literature and art, for example, we will gradually erase their social essence. Wean artists, we will discourage them from engaging in the image, the study of those processes that occur in the depths of the masses. Literature, theaters, cinema - everything will depict and glorify the most base human feelings. We will do our best to support and raise the so-called creators, who will plant and hammer into the human mind the cult of sex, violence, sadism, betrayal - in a word, all immorality. ”
  31. +2
    20 March 2020 16: 18
    My friend returned from Kuibyshev and told with enthusiasm how they met Gorbachev in the city. Young, unlike the previous leaders. And a pleasant smile. Why, I don’t know, I told my friend “all this is a fairy tale.” He was indignant, but soon forgot about it They greeted me that way, but they saw me off quite coldly.
  32. +1
    20 March 2020 16: 49
    Nothing in the world happens by chance, spontaneously, etc. Everything began with our beloved Khrushchev and his comrades, comrades continued under the wing of Brezhnev, but Andropov gave a full green light, which we are now reaping. More than the USSR will not be in any form.
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  34. +1
    23 March 2020 03: 52
    Of course, the hunchback was one of the destroyers of the USSR, but one should not forget about Yeltsin with the Bialowieza Forest and his statement, take sovereignty as much as you want, in my opinion he is responsible for this more than humps.
  35. 0
    27 March 2020 01: 04
    As a kid, not even a high school student brought me to Moscow in 1987 at the height of this very perestroika. I see on the forecourt square a crowd of men (almost all in black and gray coats) surrounded someone or something. Out of curiosity, I also climbed there. And there is a wicked guy (well, poured Brick) directly from the ground selling posters with photos of girls in swimsuits. They grabbed these posters like pies in a hungry year. I got out dumbfounded, embarrassed, and with shame. It was a shame for those people who, openly in broad daylight, openly demonstrated their base instincts. The picture was imprinted forever. And all the restructuring I have associated with this forecourt black-gray faceless mass surrounding the barker. This then became commonplace throughout the country which did not.
  36. 0
    April 19 2020 10: 23
    The question put by the Author in the title resembles the question already sounded in the Autumn of 1916, when PN Milyukov, listing the abuses and mistakes of the tsarist government, ended his speech with a rhetorical question: "What is this - stupidity or treason?" We are all worried about why Russia has experienced such disasters twice in one century. Just like 100 years ago, we are looking for an answer why the people rebelled (from workers and sailors to students); why the authorities (administration, bureaucracy) were not able to extinguish the vacillations; why there were no energetic, talented patriots among the ruling circles to save the Country; why the army did not "stand up" to defend the regime; why separatism and extremism struck the national outskirts and national minorities, to this day "prosperous under the shadow of the monarchy."
    And, as well as 100 years ago, in response: "The internal enemies (the German empress, the sold-out officials, intellectuals, Jews, ..., liberals, the" fifth column ", ...) and external" (German General Staff, " freemasons ", ... the State Department," world behind the scenes ", ...). The similarity of questions and answers is striking, both then and now. And this very similarity suggests that in both cases the answers are wrong! And the accusations about the arrest of people from Andropov to Gorbachev and the "Gorbachevites" are very naive, because they either sold themselves to the West or decided to destroy everything "in order to convert power into money." And only a few, both then and now, pointed to the true causes of both catastrophes: a deep political-managerial-economic crisis;
    failure of the system of recruiting and renewal of the ruling elite; paranoid struggle with the modernizing part of society and the ineffectiveness of stabilizing mechanisms; lack of a broad "social contract"; the crisis of the idea-forming and symbolic components (religion, ideology); unpreparedness for the challenges of modernization. Erroneous national policy during the crisis period (in the Russian Empire, especially with regard to Jews, Poles and Finns);

    Many answers can be found in the series of articles by prof. A. B. Zubov "Reflections on the causes of the revolution in Russia" (yes, this is the same A. B. Zubov - the leader of the team of the controversial textbook on the history of Russia of the twentieth century), where he, using the example of the Great Russian Revolution of 1905-1919, Zubov shows how revolutions are prepared by the ruling regimes themselves "hand in hand" with revolutionaries,
    decades before the revolutionary events themselves.

    Gorbachev and his associates made an attempt to return the USSR to the path of European Humanistic Social Democracy. The path that Russia had already tried unsuccessfully to embark on in February 1917 (the height of WWI is not the right time for "social revolutions"). Unfortunately, the actions of the "Gorbachevites" were just as clumsy and awkward as the actions of the Provisional Government.

    The explanation for this is simple (a) the enormous complexity and neglect of the problems. (b) the low quality of the late Soviet elite that does not meet the situation. The "Gorbachevites" were the product of "negative selection" caused by the Soviet ideology itself, the system of management and the promotion of cadres to the elite. Where "non-negotiability" has been cultivated for decades. Persecution awaited all attempts to think "outside the party line" (be it politics, economics, art or science). Any disagreement with the "party course" was declared dangerous dissent. And to hesitate with him was considered the highest manifestation of loyalty and patriotism. The very fact that there were no other people in the Communist Party / Komsomol of many thousands - smarter, more pragmatic, realistic and balanced in decision-making, and more decisive and persistent in their implementation - speaks of The deepest crisis of renewal of the administrative body of the USSR and decision-making. As a result, at the top there were only people who were obviously short-sighted, stupid, lethargic and absurd at the same time.... The Gorbachevites failed to transform the enthusiasm and energy of the masses associated with the "fresh air" into productive political and economic work.
    Plus, all this happened against the background of the most serious imbalances in the economy and the challenges of modernization.
    And the fact that the United States and its allies skillfully took advantage of the low quality of our elite is normal, they were striving for victory in the Cold War and they won.

    For us, all these questions are vitally important, because after the revolution of 1990-1993, Russia "hung" in a transitional state. This reflects her "immobility", inability to budge. If we apply to the end of the USSR the same honest, "medical" analysis that Zubov subjected to the end of the Russian Empire, then we can see a lot in common. Perhaps this will prompt the current Russia to begin reforms that will prevent a catastrophe? Or will we again ask with sorrow: "What is this - stupidity or treason?"

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