Ukraine adopts the BTR-4 export model

The BTR-4E, created by Kharkov designers from the KMDB named after A.Morozov, has been officially adopted by the Ukrainian army since 24.07.2012. The order on the adoption of military equipment signed by the Minister of Defense of Ukraine D.Salamatin.

Today, however, in Ukraine there are only two experienced vehicles BTR-4. It is assumed that a small batch of BTR-4 in the number of 10 units by the end of the year will go to the 13-th separate air-mobile battalion, which is part of the air-mobile troops, located in the city of Zhytomyr.

The adoption of the BTR-4 export model (exactly the same model was delivered to Iraq under the contract signed in 2010) for the armament of the Ukrainian army leads to disappointing conclusions. The BTR-4 lacks the strength or the means, because, in fact, the BTR-4 was created with Iraqi money. The armored transporter is taken up with identified deficiencies, which are very well known in the Ministry of Defense - insufficient mine protection. Another option is a pre-election gesture, and the armored personnel carriers are awaiting the fate of the “Strongholds”, which, incidentally, were also ten units.

I am glad, of course, that the new equipment still goes to the army of Ukraine. The BTR-4E is equipped with a 3TD diesel engine. Of the weapons, we note the combat module BM-7M "Parus". It is expected soon to be adopted by the next modification of the BTR-4 - BTR-4M. He will receive enhanced protection and the German engine "Deutz".

Hoping for an optimistic future BTR-4 gives an agreement on the production of armored personnel carriers, concluded between Ukraine and Kazakhstan. The main armament of Ukrainian-made armored personnel carriers:
- automatic 30 mm gun 3ТМ-1, created at the Kamenetz-Podolsk plant of fine mechanics;
- ATGM created by the Kiev Luch Design Bureau;
- grenade launcher KBA-117, created in KB "Artillery armament";
- a machine gun created at the Mayak plant in Kiev.

Device and design BTR-4

Layout armored transporter:
- management department - performed in the forward part of the hull;
- MTO - performed in the middle part of the body;
- fighting compartment - made in the aft hull;
- troop compartment - made in the aft hull;
The location of the combat compartment and the troop compartment allowed to create a whole family of vehicles without changes in the layout, logistics and chassis. Capacity - 10 man, of which 3 man - the crew of the car: the commander of the car, the gunner and the driver-mechanic, 7 man - infantry.

On the basis of the BTR-4 created the following modifications:
- the base model - BTR-4;
- commander machine - BTR-4K;
- command and staff vehicle - BTR-4KSH;
- evacuation sanitary armored vehicle - BSEM-4K;
- reconnaissance vehicle - BRM-4K;
- evacuation repair machine - BREM-4;
- fire support vehicle - MOP-4K;
- export model BTR-4E;
- export model BTR-4K - BTR-4KE;
- export model BTR-4KSH - BTR-4KSHE;
- export model BSEM-4K - BSEM-4Е;
- export model BREM-4 - BREM-4.

BTR-4 can be armed with the following combat modules:
- BM "Thunder" consists of one automatic 30 mm gun, one 7.62 mm machine gun, one automatic grenade launcher and anti-tank missile complex "Barrier";

- BM "Squall" consists of one automatic 30 mm gun, one 7.62 mm machine gun, one 30 mm automatic grenade launcher and anti-tank missile system "Barrier" (or 2-4 anti-tank rocket launchers);
- BM "BAU-23" consists of two automatic 23 mm guns and a machine gun 7.62 mm;

- BM “Parus” (BM-7) - consists of one 30 mm KBA-1 cannon, one automatic 30 mm grenade launcher, one 7.62 mm machine gun and Barrier ATGM

Key Features:
- weight 21.9 tons;
- wheel formula - 8X8;
- release - from 2008 year;
- length - 7.6 meter;
- width - 2.9 meters;
- height - 2.8 meters;
- ground clearance - 46 centimeters;
- armor - anti-bullet and fragmentation;
- engine power - HP 442 / 489;
- maximum speed up to 110 km / h (on the water - 10 km / h);
- range - 690 kilometers;
- obstacle to be overcome: rise to 30 degrees, height to 50 centimeters; width up to 2 meters;
- Equipment: optical-television system with a laser rangefinder.

Information sources:
http://www.rosbalt.ru/ukraina/2012/07/24/1014655.html
http://www.morozov.com.ua/rus/body/btr4.php
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%A2%D0%A0-4

Comments

[Tirpitz]

However, better than the BTR-80. But the defense must be further developed.

[lexx-30]

Yes, this is BTR-80 only tyunengovany, to plant the guys again have to ride on the armor

[dreamer]

Will this news appear on the site every day? Yesterday, like "sucked" And why did the surname of the fraternal country’s MO be distorted?

D.Sолоmother.

[Splin]

It would be sad to read if not for one "BUT". BTR-4 "LADYA", adopted at the time of Yushchenko. in January 2010. The press simply did not notice it because of the elections and the hero of Shukhevych. The Sail module was not included there. it was left for the BTR-4 Bucephalus. And right now, the export was flooded, well, for better PR, he was also accepted for abuse. Yes, and the Ministry of Defense made an order to Kharkov at the end of that year. How could they order a pre-production car?

[datur]

Splin,
How could they order a pre-production car? --- Yes, yours and ours, magicians, can do anything !!! effective damn managers understand !!!

[Splin]

Mauger is the Russian Ministry of Defense and it may have extra money, but our pennies are allocated only for a real project. If there is no such system in the nomenclature of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, they’ll give them money for this purpose.

[phantom359]

Splin, Friends from Kharkov say that the prospects for the car are pretty good. Damn, there isn’t enough money, again the pre-election squabble, Tymoshonka and the martyrs again play the trump card.

[Kievan]

Quote: Splin

It would be sad to read if not for one "BUT". BTR-4 "LADYA", adopted at the time of Yushchenko. in January 2010. The press simply did not notice it because of the elections and the hero of Shukhevych. The Sail module was not included there. it was left for the BTR-4 Bucephalus.

In late January 2010, as reported by FLOT2017, the new BTR-4 Rook armored personnel carrier, undergoing preliminary tests at the Morozov Kharkov Engineering Design Bureau, received official approval from the Ukrainian military. In particular, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine issued a verdict that the new armored personnel carrier fully meets the requirements of regulatory documents on the metrological support of weapons and military equipment. This conclusion was sent for approval to the Central Administration of Metrology and Standardization of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

http://www.ukr-portal.com/index.php?nma=news&fla=stat&nums=3113

Quote: Splin

Right now, export was flooded, and for the best public relations, it was also taken to the forefront.

Perhaps they failed the contract and the remaining ones will have to be left to ourselves ...

The most interesting thing is why on the ZSU website in the news about the adoption of the service they posted pictures of the BTR-4 with the thunder module? The enemy is confused or something ...

[Splin]

"Most likely, the export vehicle will be delivered to the troops. Nobody will make the Thunder modules and the new FCS for 10 vehicles. The wrong series. And the German engine will be stuck in. Although our military wants the omnivorous 3TD-3. Why would the troops only need a 17-ton colossus? Dozor-B is needed. I hope after the "Slavic Commonwealth of 2012" it will come to the minds of the generals that the LBA "Dozor" is also needed like the "Tiger" in the Russian Airborne Forces.

[black_eagle]

why not tell what the landing party needs there, not the fools are sitting there, but I know for sure that the first batch of BTR-95 is waiting for the 4th DB

[Splin]

Quote: black_eagle

what is needed there, the landing is not fools still sitting,

This is an ordinary human desire "I want" This is how you bought a BMW and you can only keep a Zhiguli. They have long been promised to convert the BMD-1 (2) into the "Shkval" module. I have not even seen a picture of such a rework, and this is more important for them.

[Orey]

Quote: Splin

This is an ordinary human desire "I want" This is how you bought a BMW and you can only keep a Zhiguli. They have long been promised to convert the BMD-1 (2) into the "Shkval" module. I have not even seen a picture of such a rework, and this is more important for them.

95th brigade - an airmobile, and not an amphibious assault force there now. So the delivery destination is correct. No one is going to drop the BTR-80 from the parachute.

[Splin]

I’ll tell you a secret, until August 2, our airmobile troops will be named Airborne! And if they want to replace the 80-ku, then probably this is not right. For marines and landing is better than the BTR-3. He swims perfectly and maneuverable on earth than 4. They don’t dump it - centering is not needed there, but the rear-engine arrangement is just a plus here.

[Orey]

Quote: Splin

I’ll tell you a secret, until August 2, our airmobile troops will be named Airborne!

To rename this, of course, is our national sport, but in fact we only have one paratrooper brigade (like 79, in the Dnipropetrovsk region), the rest are airmobile (light), so it’s unlikely that anything will change in essence. Moreover, as you know, there is either no money or very little money. Yes, and we do not need just paratroopers more than a brigade. Well, in the war with which enemy will we be able to land a brigade in its rear? Even a regiment would be enough for us ... And how in the Russian Federation we will use paratroopers as ordinary infantry.

Quote: Splin

For marines and landing is better than the BTR-3.

I agree. But it’s cheaper to put combat modules from the troika on the 80s (flurry, etc.)

[Splin]

Quote: Orey

on 80s combat modules from the three (flurry, etc.)

The cheapest option is to name him BTR-7

BUT ON THE BASIS OF TRESH, YOU CAN MAKE SELF-PROPELLED MORTARS 81 and 120 mm, but it floats anyway.

[Lieutenant colonel]

But is this not the BTR-70? Is it called 7 in Ukraine?

[Splin]

Modernization of the BTR-70. It consists in the installation of a multi-fuel diesel engine, side hatches like the 80s, FCS and the module. The Ukrainian army orders an armored personnel carrier with a conventional turret, because the modules violate the vehicle’s buoyancy. A primitive module with a 23 mm ATGM and UAG-40 - submachine gun is under development. to mount it instead of a tower.

[black_eagle]

I have photos from May 9 in Zhitomir this year, I'll throw it off at home))))

[Splin]

Quote: black_eagle

why not tell what the landing party needs there

In order to start thinking, our military must first see what they will think about. Brains stirring when tested with hands. This I say for sure - he was like that. And the more you are in the army, the fewer brains remain.

[black_eagle]

There is a rat in your words. grain, I have a familiar former tank battalion commander, so he still considers the T-55 to be the best tank, who is used to anything ...

[borisst64]

Something afloat, he is very flooded, the slightest wave will cover.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: borisst64

Something afloat, he is very flooded, the slightest wave will cover.

[Brother Sarych]

But does he even swim here or goes along the bottom?

[dreamer]

Quote: Brother Sarich

But does he even swim here or goes along the bottom?

When a normal armored personnel carrier is swimming, then usually the flap that is lifting out of the water sticks out so that there are no waves and it’s much higher, but judging by the breakers it’s swimming aft, but it’s either rebooted (which is 99% excluded) or the commander is already drowning (captain) crew prepares last (according to maritime tradition) to leave the ship
It remains to be assumed that, happy with the commissioning of the Zaporozhye submarine AFU, the engineers decided to increase the underwater means

[Splin]

BTR-4 has a slightly different principle, but all the same, its seaworthiness makes it possible only to cross the Dnieper.

[dreamer]

Quote: Splin

its seaworthiness allows only to cross the Dnieper.

It is clear that the role of the boat does not shine for him, but something seems to me that afloat he can shoot vryatli from a cannon with such a draft

[Brother Sarych]

I don’t want to find fault, but in all the photos of the car in the water she either drowned or drowns!

[Splin]

Appearance is deceiving, and IT is capable of sweeping in water.

[dreamer]

Quote: Splin

Appearance is deceiving, and it is capable of sweeping in water.

Damn that bathyscaphe then! When he swims forward, the windows are completely flooded, that is, someone from the armor must tell the mechanic where to steer .. It really looks like a raft with a gun. By the way, what minute does it shoot? I watched, but did not see, and then the image disappeared

[Splin]

Didn't find a video of the shooting. Yes, and where would he shoot there at the Kiev reservoir, near the boat station. Why is it so low? But whoever gets there. And these "ears on the sides are water cannons, which allows him to confidently" crawl "on the water, even with additional armor. Here is a problem with the exit to the shore. Therefore, my vote in favor of the BTR-3 for the marines.
And not only BTR-4 are corrected from above. In a combat situation, it will go on periscopes and on duplicated sights on the tower

[lelikas]

In the last photo I really plunged into the most indulgent, even scared for mehan (he’s probably even worse, fish in triplex noses poke).

[Bad_gr]

Interesting. and if you also put a landing party in it, with their piers (weapons, ammunition, bulletproof vests)?

[Lieutenant colonel]

It is precisely noted - only calm water, there is no reason to speak of 4 points as 80.

[beech]

also noticed !!

[Akuzenka]

As always - the Soviet legacy (infrastructure, ideas) are exploited to the stop. The best in the world is still no !!!!!

[Astrey]

Last Friday-Sunday I saw seven BTR-4Es on the E-95 highway near the Desna tank range No. 126. Cars with unusual spots of modern camouflage "digital" and very amusing new turrets make a much stronger impression than the above photos. It is a pity that I did not have time to use the camera while driving.
In the news of the Chernihiv region, a phrase flashed about the delivery of these vehicles to the Royal Thai Army.

[Orey]

Quote: Astrey

On a good Friday-Sunday, I saw seven BTR-4Es on the E-95 highway near the Desna tank range No. 126. Cars with unusual spots of modern camouflage "digital" and very interesting new turrets make a much stronger impression than the above photos. It is a pity that I did not have time to use the camera while driving.
In the news of the Chernihiv region, a phrase flashed about the delivery of these vehicles to the Royal Thai Army.

You confuse something in Thailand delivered BTR-3e1, not BTR-4e ...

[Kars]

They didn’t like chariots. 80 there would be a lot of new towers to put on them and that's enough. TBMT should be taken. Not to mention that they will also be cheaper.

[Splin]

Let's wait for the fall ...

[Orey]

Quote: Splin

Let's wait for the fall ...

And what is some hope that BMPT64 will be adopted?

[Splin]

In the fall, at "Perspetiva 2012", all experimental images, from equipment and adjustable projectiles, to heavy armored vehicles, must pass a military check. The questions will be for ordinary officers, not staff generals

[Splin]

The BMPT-64 narrow ramp visually bothers me, apparently I need to test it in exercises.

Aft doors at the BMP "Puma"

[dreamer]

Quote: Splin

Aft doors at the BMP "Puma"

Not a BMP, but a two-story caterpillar house

[Splin]

Quote: dreamer

Not a BMP, but a two-story caterpillar house

And you know how the Poles are offended (they want to take it into service). when you tell them that the BMPT-64 is of the same class with it and costs 5 times cheaper ...

[Kars]

Well, there BMPT-64 is re-sawed from used T-64s of which the mountains are in the literal sense of the word)
And Puma, by the way, is a very decent example of her class, but on her armor and the Kharkiv citizen to grow and grow.

But the aft hatches - well, there is no aperture, and God bless her, and so it is normal.

[Lieutenant colonel]

I’m not looking at this photo for the first time and I am tormented by the question - do people in the military have steel in Ukraine? Coming out of this forgive door and I want to fall coccyx on iron))))). Sorry for the men of the Slavic brothers (or rather their health). And so (judging by the photo) the dimensions of the kakras compartment for me))))))).

[Splin]

I also sin on the ramp, it needs to be done either wider or put aft doors, but the car is still experienced, we'll see.

[Akim]

Pretty BMP is just a little expensive

[leon-iv]

but meanwhile on http://bmpd.livejournal.com/298618.html?page=2#comments
Spherical cone

[dreamer]

Quote: leon-iv

and meanwhile on http://bmpd.livejournal.com/298618.html?page=2#comments

It's amazing how two people can spoil an entire comment thread. However, here especially when the patriots of Azerbaijan and Armenia interlocked it was even hotter

[ds4trr3ed]

The authorities of our country have done a lot, but this is already too much.
I generally accidentally found him http://xurl.es/poisk
Here is information about each of us, for example: relatives, friends, correspondence from social networks.
And most importantly, it is accessible to everyone, I was really scared at first - you never know what moron there will climb
Well, the truth is that you can remove yourself from the site.

[Qwerty43]

Have you seen this? Putin's current government has made this database

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http://snipurl.com/poisk-sng

, where you can find detailed information about each resident on the territory of the former USSR. I registered, found and deleted my data, which I advise everyone to do. And whether Mali is anyone there looking for ...

[AIpot]

Hodovka on the "centaur" looks a little like. Although there is a campaign, and the BTR-80 and the centaur, all together.

[Bad_gr]

By the way, about the "Centaurs"
".....
------------ Italian wheeled vehicles in the port of Novorossiysk
Centauro and Freccia arrived this week at the port of Novorossiysk for testing in the interests of the Russian Ministry of Defense.
The photo was taken today by a friend of the AST Center ... "

http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2012/08/blog-post_7562.html#comment-form