Coronavirus highlights the dangers of the neighborhood with Ukraine

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For many years now, a simple layman, hopelessly busy with credit payments, searching for discounts, voyages to shopping centers and watching TV shows, grumbles that the subject of Ukraine has hated him. It is difficult to blame the layman for inertness, philistinism and outright cynicism. For thirty years, the television-plastic reality of the screen has created such individuals. They are not even affected by well-grounded warnings about the environmental, social, and, what is especially important, the epidemiological risks of such a neighbor. But now the new bloody television show with the virus slightly cheered up a bored audience. And even echoed the feelings of self-preservation again to look at Ukrainian subjects. And not in vain ...

The statistics of the pandemic officially announced by the WHO resembles reports from the front, which makes the public nervous about the information cannonade. In Italy alone, where the true viral inferno opened, more than 350 people have died over the past Sunday. And this happens in a “normal”, as our pro-Western fellow citizens say, country. What is happening in the country of universal democratic happiness, whose citizens forced the prices of foreign labor in Europe to dive down? And, most importantly, what will happen when the zarobitchites decide to bring some pennies home? Or do they rush across the border to the hated eastern Mordor?



Reforms of post-Maidan Ukraine were not in vain


After the “revolution” in Ukraine, young lady Ulyana Suprun came to power in the Ministry of Health, whose qualifications, like her citizenship, are hidden by a veil of secrecy. With any direct question, Suprun replies that she is Ukrainian and a doctor. Ulyana does not provide criteria and details.

Coronavirus highlights the dangers of the neighborhood with Ukraine

Uliana Suprun next to her associates

As soon as Suprun sat down in the minister's chair, she took up the reform of the entire healthcare system. The liquidation of the previous system began immediately from two ends, or rather, two “concepts”: reforming the financing of the health system and the development of the public health system. Behind these vague notions was the destruction of a huge sector of medical services for the population.

Ukrainian pharmaceuticals were completely left out of the brackets, as drug purchases were entrusted to “international organizations”, in particular, Crown Agents, which is a consulting NGO with a head office in Britain. Drug prices jumped up instantly, and the familiar “minimum” of domestic acetylsalicylic acid, coal, citramone and other drugs began to slowly disappear from the shelves. Following this, the sanitary-epidemiological service of Ukraine was completely eliminated. And this is just two years of suprun supremacy.


A little later it turned out that the young lady and her associates at that moment were only warming up. In less than five years of uncontrollable activity after the “revolution”, a new team of medical managers liquidated about 800 different medical institutions. The number of hospital beds decreased by almost 25-30%. The collapse in salaries for health workers initiated by Ulyana Suprun forced skilled personnel to look for a different way of earning.

Another innovation was the slow closure of tuberculosis and psychiatric dispensaries. According to the Ministry of Health of Ukraine, tuberculosis and mental illness can allegedly be treated on an outpatient basis, under the supervision of a family doctor. It’s easy to guess where all these people go.

Corruption was “defeated”, but what about the coronavirus?


While Ulyana Suprun, and later her successor, a lawyer by training, Zoryana Skaletskaya, annihilated health care at the pace of Europeanization and the fight against corruption at the Stakhanov pace, the Western media commented on the achievements of the “new Ukraine” extremely complimentary. But as soon as the Chinese “guest” flashed on the horizon, even the British BBC’s rhetoric changed.


Journalists of a foreign publication began to ask unpleasant questions and cite even more unpleasant facts. So, despite the large passenger flow of Ukraine and Italy, five hundred citizens who returned to Ukraine did not check for coronavirus. However, at the same time, Ukraine continues to boast of a scanty number of cases, which causes more than just suspicion, because there are tests for coronavirus only in Kiev and then in an extremely limited number. This fact has been forced to admit by the authorities themselves.

The revelations of some Ukrainians, who, to their misfortune, have already returned to Ukraine, give a special piquancy. For example, a conscious and socially responsible citizen Anna Tyszkiewicz, having arrived from Polish Poznan, decided to isolate herself from people first, and later find a way to get tested for coronavirus. The girl phoned all Kiev hospitals with this request, but achieved nothing. And during the next conversation, the medical staff even privately told her that no one would come and would not spend tests on her. In general, the salvation of a drowning man is the work of the drowning man himself. Tyszkiewicz herself at the end summarized her interesting experience as follows:

“I got the impression that most do not know what to do, but some frankly do not care. In Ukraine, they do not talk about self-isolation at all. Friends suggested simply going to the Laura for a reception, let him look. ”
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As a result, by simple conclusions, any more or less educated person understands that the coronavirus in Ukraine is not only unable to be detected due to lack of funds, but also is not willing. It would seem a suicidal policy, but not the first time for them. At the end of the hurricane, shaking the collapsed Ministry of Health, the Ukrainian authorities will once again require support, money, and, perhaps, ... love.

Coronavirus beads


On March 17, Russia cut off rail links with Ukraine. Of course, the backyard remains through the "friendly" Belarus, but it is slowly being closed. However, multilateral automobile checkpoints (MAPP or “map”), which are so lively on the border between Russia, the independent republics of Donbass and Ukraine, that the crossing, which takes about 3 hours, are considered successful, do not appear in the information field. Even less mention is the indispensable component of this small world of MAPP - passenger cars, dearly called "beads" in Ukraine and in Donbass.


“Busik” is a wretched and unfortunate child of economic inequality, labor migration, unemployment, the severance of economic ties and political instability in the form of vehicles living in a certain gray zone of reality. “Busiks” do not have bus stations and train stations, you cannot buy tickets for them, but becoming their passenger is easier than ever.

We go to the search site for fellow travelers and look for guys to Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov, Alchevsk or Kiev itself. Having contacted the guys, we find out where and when to approach. A minibus will stand in place, from which the driver will leave with a sly look and a "magic" notebook with counts.

After a long line, you will be dropped off to check documents. Very strict, and sometimes boorish detachment led by a dog will require you to open the bags. Further, without looking inside, the detachment will glance at your bags from above and send to draw up documents. Sometimes it happens the other way around, because Mapik is a thing in itself. There is no epidemiological control there, in principle, and the infrastructure itself does not allow this.

After that, you walk about a kilometer to the mapika of Donbass. The people there are friendly, but the infrastructure is many times worse, only the ubiquitous duty-free blinks like a Christmas tree. The procedure is repeated, and you sit in the "bus."

On my way back, I often met remarkable citizens. I especially remember the hard worker who crossed a kilometer strip with me towards Rostov. He walked and lamented that he crossed the border a second time in a day, because he had visited his family and was in a hurry to change, and because of such a frequency they might not miss. And this “iron” stream is huge. Despite the declared blockade of Donbass and the abundance of Ukrainian nationalists on the other side, residents of the republics are forced to visit Ukraine both for economic reasons (for example, receiving a pension) and for the need to maintain family ties. And these same citizens even more often travel to Russia for the same reasons, but for more facilitated rules with the right to stay in the Russian Federation for up to six months.

Those. the factor of the difficult economic and humanitarian state of the LPR and the DPR will become a burden in the face of increasing infectious danger. And completely blocking the border in the conditions of the war in the Donbass means literally throwing people to death, betraying the long-suffering population in the most cowardly and vile way.

Woke up late


Truly fate has an extremely evil irony. The coronavirus, which questioned all Western values ​​and the enthusiasm for globalism, suddenly recalled the epidemiological danger that comes from our “revolutionary” neighbor. Moreover, the author has mentioned this danger more than once.


After all, coronavirus, oddly enough, sounds like just another little-known outbreak of the same little-studied virus. But the epidemic of measles, tuberculosis and increasing diphtheria in Ukraine has long been quite tangible.

According to the most optimistic forecasts of Ukrainians themselves, more than 2019 thousand people were infected with measles in Ukraine only in 50, and about 10 thousand died. In terms of the spread of the disease, Ukraine is ahead of India, Congo and even Nigeria (according to data for 2019). Experts consider the last cases of infection in Russia to be brought from the vastness of our western neighbor. For example, last year in the Kuban alone, several measles were discovered, some of them came from Ukraine.

Diphtheria is no better. At the end of last year, this obsolete, it would seem, disease was discovered in twenty Ukrainians. The fact of detection already makes the situation a little easier, but the problem is that in Ukraine there is a serum deficiency against this disease. According to Ukrainian doctors, there are less than 200 doses of the drug throughout the country. This situation arose not because of the slow decay of health care, but because of the suicidal refusal of the country's authorities to purchase medicines in Russia, since all the serum is produced in Russia.


And the situation with tuberculosis is even worse. Ukraine is the unquestioned leader of the continent in multidrug-resistant (resistant to anti-TB drugs with a high probability of death) forms of this disease. However, the authorities with suicidal tenacity turn the country into some kind of Petri dish. So, in 2018, more than 1800 patients with tuberculosis were discovered in the city of Zaporozhye. What did the authorities do? It was planned to close by April 2020 three of the four existing TB outpatient clinics. Juliana Suprun even went further. She canceled fluorography, replacing it with a survey (!) Of the patient.

In this case, the tragedy of the coronavirus acts as a spotlight, highlighting a whole bunch of problems: from promoted economic models and ties to cross-border relationships. And, no matter how much the layman would like to forget about Ukraine, trying to sweep excrement under the rug is a bad policy, especially when it comes to epidemiology.
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  1. -16
    21 March 2020 06: 18
    In general, a neighbor’s cow is even dead !! At least I really want it to be so!
    1. +14
      21 March 2020 06: 25
      You are just an inert philistine, hopelessly busy with credit payments. You are not enthusiastic about the news, how bad things are in Ukraine.
      1. +6
        21 March 2020 06: 52
        In the beginning, good news.

        The discovery of St. Petersburg scientists: the "Russian" coronavirus is different from the "Chinese"
        "Enemy of the Russian people" showed its true essence

        The encouraging news, now flown out of the Russian Ministry of Health, inspired much the same way as in its time the message about the victory over the Nazis near Stalingrad. It seems that in the war against the infection that swept humanity, a turning point came. A vaccine is about to appear, and then drugs against coronavirus.

        “Specialists of the FSBI“ Research Institute of Influenza named after A. A. Smorodintseva "The Ministry of Health of Russia was sequenced from the material from a patient with COVID-19 the first complete genome of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 from Russia," the news read and encouraged. But it also raised questions. After all, in January, China transferred the coronavirus genome to Russia. So we did a science-intensive, but extra work?

        Specialists located in St. Petersburg Research Institute of influenza them. A. A. Smorodintseva, very expectedly reported: the genome shared by the Chinese was, respectively, Chinese. And the one that they sequenced is originally Russian. Since it was extracted from a coronavirus that infiltrated a Russian citizen. By the time he was infected, the infection managed to mutate a little. The differences are noticeable.

        According to doctors, it is completely possible that the coronaviruses circulating in other countries are also different.

        “This coronavirus is new for us, therefore it is critically important to be able to determine the path of its spread and entry into our country, its change,” the Russian Ministry of Health quotes the acting words Director of the St. Petersburg Research Institute of Influenza, Doctor of Medical Sciences Dmitry Lioznov.

        By the way, Russian scientists have already shared their genetic data with colleagues: “they deposited it in the international EpiCoV GISAID database used by WHO and leading world research groups to monitor the global evolution of SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus.”


        And about the situation in / in ex-Ukraine.





        1. +7
          21 March 2020 07: 03
          . AND, no matter how much the layman wants to forget about Ukraine

          Our media will not give this. After all, how can one imagine that everything is fine with us? Only against the background of Ukraine.
          1. +8
            21 March 2020 07: 24
            Quote: Stas157
            Our media will not give this. After all, how can one imagine that everything is fine with us? Only against the background of Ukraine.

            Against the background of the situation with the epidemic of coronavirus in ex-Ukraine, you should just see that, although in relation to this scourge (disease, others, I’m not talking now), doctors and other services of the Russian Federation manage to control the situation.
            1. Mwg
              +4
              21 March 2020 08: 00
              "... doctors and other services of the Russian Federation manage to control the situation." - My mother-in-law neighbor came from Thailand and got sick. The doctor herself sat at home for self-isolation. I called the hospital, where she works, asked for tests. She was told that such did not exist. She asked to be sent to the city (regional center) - they answered that there was no such program. Sits at home, coughs; neighbors carry her food, leave everything under the door.
            2. -10
              21 March 2020 12: 34
              there are more coronovirus cases in the Russian Federation than in Ukraine.
              1. -11
                21 March 2020 14: 22
                so who will tell us the truth ... only the breadwinner said that everything was in abundance right there the people ran to pack. there are almost no cases, and even if it is, they are successfully cured ... I see this as a goal to last until April so that the people can be brought to zero and the parade .. in a couple of weeks, it will probably be possible to compare the effect of quarantine measures in Moscow and Kiev
                1. -5
                  21 March 2020 16: 01
                  I don’t know how a couple of weeks but so far 41 against 250
            3. +2
              21 March 2020 17: 35
              “The coronavirus itself is not so terrible as the unreasonable, panic-stricken behavior of the crowd, smothered by dastardly fake guns. I think it's time to laugh at the lying provocateurs, and at the same time at our stupid fears. that laughter, smiles and good mood kill any infection.

              I found an Egyptian papyrus
              In the square on Tverskaya, under the lamp.
              It wrote about the coronavirus,
              And that we will die soon.

              Ancient A4 sheet
              Vyazi Cyrillic Fonts
              Reported that in our mortal world
              Whoever is not ready to grunt.

              Disasters and terrible losses
              This manuscript prophesied to us.
              We believe everything that they write.
              How not to believe wise writings?

              Rusha social foundations,
              Evil virus of the cursed worlds
              He was magnificently crowned in Wuhan
              The gathering of crazy doctors.

              The king of nature is really weak -
              Our ephemeral soul
              Temporarily huddled in a frail body,
              Flashes of conscience rustling.

              A lot of all the devilry
              Hiding vilely, sitting in us:
              AIDS, plague, cholera, scarlet fever,
              Foot and mouth disease, fever, hepatitis.

              Life is already full of opportunities
              So it makes no sense to seek hell.
              Who, on a planet disgraceful,
              Is it always to blame for our troubles?

              The fragile world has long been on the edge
              The doors of paradise are locked with a key.
              Someone must be extreme in life,
              Even if nothing to do with it.

              Well, and we finish believing the rumors,
              And out of spite
              We urge people not to lose heart
              In the coronavirus war.

              Woe to the fakecomers, brazenly lying.
              Do not listen to false voices.
              Peace - peace, health to all living.
              And the coronavirus will die by itself! "
              Yuri Beresnev

              PS Yesterday we corresponded with a woman from Europe:
              - Ah! We have an apocalypse here! People stock up on essentials, food and gasoline. What are you doing in Russia?
              - Compose jokes, sing ditties and drink for the virus!
              - How???
              - Standing and not clinking glasses !!!

              Not God sent us this test,
              We eat ourselves from year to year!
              What to expect from the idiots of repentance,
              When will COVID, "pampering", go away ???
              Olga Vyatskaya
          2. +6
            21 March 2020 08: 36
            What an insidious coronovirus ... I thought it would be easier for him to get to us from our areas that border China, but he decided on a tricky one! Through Dill! Through Belarus !!! Ay ah yay .....
            1. +7
              21 March 2020 08: 43
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              What an insidious coronovirus ... I thought it would be easier for him to get to us from our areas that border China, but he decided on a tricky one! Through Dill! Through Belarus !!! Ay ah yay .....

              You shouldn't be ironic. The whole "trick" lies in the fact that both the PRC and the Republic of Belarus have services responsible for the security of the state, and in the ex-Ukraine - NO.

              Therefore, she is now the main contender for the spread of infection. And not only to Russia.
              1. +1
                21 March 2020 10: 15
                Quote: Insurgent
                The whole "trick" lies in the fact that both the PRC and the Republic of Belarus have services responsible for the security of the state, and in the ex-Ukraine - NO.

                And I thought that in Ukraine there are no services at all.
                1. -9
                  21 March 2020 10: 37
                  Well, a resident of an unrecognized territory, you see better. Although something could have changed for them over six years in relation to the Ministry of Health, it’s not clear to me personally ... But in Ukroin, everything is not so bad as they describe to us. I communicate with my father every day. Doctors are VERY attentive to the manifestations of fever and cough. The x-ray works non-stop. Family doctors visit the elderly at home. I wonder what OUR services can do against a pandemic? I would understand if some drugs were invented, unlike the neighbors, and so ... Pray and that's it!
                  1. +3
                    21 March 2020 11: 38
                    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                    Well, a resident of an unrecognized territory, you see better. Although something could have changed for them over six years in relation to the Ministry of Health, it’s not clear to me personally ... But in Ukroin, everything is not so bad as they describe to us. I communicate with my father every day. Doctors are VERY attentive to the manifestations of fever and cough. The x-ray works non-stop. Family doctors visit the elderly at home. I wonder what OUR services can do against a pandemic? I would understand if some drugs were invented, unlike the neighbors, and so ... Pray and that's it!

                    in July 19th I was in Ukraine, I confirm with medicine that it’s even normal enough, my own uncle was diagnosed with cancer of the lungs, surgery and further treatment, they took me a taxi to Sumy for treatment for half a year now, she feels fine,, X-ray, MRI which you’ll open, just instead of listening to the propoganda, you have to come and see, and even more surprised the Donetsk opened seafood stores, they themselves are fighting for the DNI, and the wives are trading some kind of nonsense, they all know and have no actions
                  2. +7
                    21 March 2020 12: 52
                    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                    I wonder what OUR services can do against a pandemic? I would understand if some drugs were invented ...


                    12 options are already being tested. When the virus arose and Russia asked for his "passport", first of all the USA & Ko refused our request, and China and Korea gave it. The physiognomy of this creature in different parts of the world, the minimum-minimum is different from each other, and therefore different types of vaccines are being developed. And therefore, stop smearing wax on your country and "all-propalnichat".
                    1. -8
                      21 March 2020 13: 11
                      And I do not smear! Are they testing? Wonderful. For more than half a century, ALL countries in the world have been testing HIV drugs. And How? If WHO had suddenly reported that our doctors had already created the drug and it successfully passed the research, then I would have sighed with relief and bowed to them in the waist. In the meantime, only the talking room and the smearing of the neighbors - they say there’s a waist and in Spain ...
                      1. -1
                        21 March 2020 17: 19
                        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                        In the meantime, only the talking room and the neighbors' mess


                        Well, fortune smiles at you, take it and invent, give a gift to slow mankind. Say: "Tili-dili, trawl-wali, we were not taught this, we were not asked this." Those who were taught and who were asked work at the risk of the most valuable and to criticize them because of the plinth is at least not correct. fool
                  3. +1
                    21 March 2020 15: 06
                    X-ray, this is certainly good, but in Russia they conducted more than 100t of tests for the virus, and in Ukraine, less than 1t, it will somehow be more effective than X-ray!
                2. +2
                  21 March 2020 11: 34
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  And I thought that in Ukraine there are no services at all.

                  Actually,no longerThe sanitary-epidemiological service, as such, was liquidated in Ukraine under the "doctor death" - U. Suprun, Minister of Health, "volunteer" from the United States.
        2. +4
          21 March 2020 08: 39
          Quote: Insurgent
          And about the situation in / in ex-Ukraine.

          There coronavirus has long been ....
          1. +2
            21 March 2020 08: 46
            Quote: Genry
            There coronavirus has long been ....



            I know, I live in the DPR, the former part,former "TAM"...
          2. +5
            21 March 2020 10: 09
            Quote: Genry
            There coronavirus has long been ....

            in Israel about 5-6 weeks ago there was an abnormal amount of pneumonia.
            My wife personally was ill, 4 out of 15 workers in my workshop. even then it seemed very strange to me.
            the temperature itself had a severe cough (without pneumonia resembling whooping cough) for many weeks.
            I have previously read about pneumonia with Mark Twain. and here are people around and on such scales.
            when the crown began in the press, it was thought that perhaps the virus had spread much earlier than we think.
            I would like to hear opinions on this issue.
            1. +3
              21 March 2020 15: 22
              I would like to hear opinions on this issue.

              In unclear things, statistics are the best. Yes, yes, the one that everyone scolds, that "lies", etc. But it is to her that scientists turn, they are already operating with smart "mathematical expectation", "dispersion", "distribution law". They won't give it to you, so be on your health. About 50 years ago, no one would have noticed this epidemic. The rest were exhausted, poured out, overtemperature. Many would not even take sick leave.
        3. +7
          21 March 2020 11: 29
          Quote: Insurgent
          In the beginning, good news.

          Putin’s troops will defeat everyone.
          1. +6
            21 March 2020 17: 58
            Putin’s troops will defeat everyone.

            If they continue to punch the bottom, then in 50 terms they will finish up to the "hated" Americans. hi
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        5. +2
          21 March 2020 19: 16
          Quote: Insurgent
          Specialists located in St. Petersburg Research Institute of influenza them. A. A. Smorodintseva, very expectedly reported: the genome shared by the Chinese was, respectively, Chinese. And the one that they sequenced is originally Russian. Since it was extracted from a coronavirus that infiltrated a Russian citizen. By the time he was infected, the infection managed to mutate a little. The differences are noticeable.

          According to doctors, it is completely possible that the coronaviruses circulating in other countries are also different.

          That is, it turns out that this virus mutates based on the nation of the carrier ...
          I remember that about 5 years ago mattresses collected materials on the Slavic nation, and in particular on the Russians. Although everywhere they say that this coronovirus is of natural origin, but only I hardly believe in it. Mutates and adapts too fast. Moreover, according to pundits, he is still changing infection based on the race and nation of the carrier. Too many oddities in this virus ...
      2. +2
        21 March 2020 07: 47
        For your information:

        A patient with a coronovirus can infect only two.

        Sick measles - 13!

        I am silent about tuberculosis. Sailed. I hope they close the borders with Ukraine.
        1. +12
          21 March 2020 07: 50
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          A patient with a coronovirus can infect only two.

          Do not understand. Why only two?
        2. +5
          21 March 2020 09: 27
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          A patient with a coronovirus can infect only two.

          I will correct you.
          Coronovirus infected can infect unlimited the number of people in contact with him. Contact is less than 1 meter to 2, and if the infected person does not follow hygienic measures, he coughed in his hand and took up the object. The patient and all who were in contact with him should be quarantined to prevent the spread (something that was not done during the time in Italy)
          Unlike measles, the coronovirus is heavy and does not spread far.
          1. +3
            21 March 2020 10: 19
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            I will correct you.

            Thank you, at least one person rationally explained, but listened to Malyshev, did not understand anything.
            1. 0
              21 March 2020 12: 01
              Quote: tihonmarine
              He listened to Malyshev, understood nothing.

              The problem is not with you, but with how it is presented to you because afraid of panic.
              1. +1
                21 March 2020 17: 55
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                The problem is not with you, but with how it is presented to you because afraid of panic.

                Sorry, but I do not live in Russia either.
      3. +7
        21 March 2020 11: 25
        Quote: military_cat
        You are just an inert philistine, hopelessly busy with credit payments. You are not enthusiastic about the news, how bad things are in Ukraine.

        The coronovirus will not come to us, Putin’s detachments stood guard!
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        1. +9
          21 March 2020 07: 36
          Quote: atalef
          As for Kazakhstan, they are the same Slavs

          belay
          Slavist Yes , the level of British scientists.
        2. 0
          21 March 2020 09: 14
          You all perfectly understand what I’m talking about, but you just want to debate on contradictions - neither the GDP nor the territory makes the state an Empire! It’s like the Jews — they never had their own state, but their whole history is a chosen people of God! Empire is history and mentality! The USA is a megacorporation, but not a state, Germany is an empire. The United Kingdom is, unfortunately, an empire ... France is a republic, but it could not become an Empire, even though it has tried very hard throughout its history ... And Ukraine is the territory of the Russian Empire without any GDP!
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            1. +4
              21 March 2020 09: 33
              Exactly - the historical truth is behind me, and only wet dreams are behind you! But I will not argue! Russia is the Empire, and Kievan Rus was the initial stage of its formation ... So I do not confuse anything! But, unlike you, I acknowledge the justice of the existence of the state of Israel, but the Jews have never been an Empire and will not be, no matter how you rush about here! And Russia has always been an Empire, and here you are right again, Kievan Rus has always been a part of it! hi
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                2. 0
                  21 March 2020 13: 40
                  Quote: atalef
                  Yes, you’re running around and claiming that we rule the world, I won’t convince you of this - you create myths for yourself
                  The myths themselves were created in the Paleolithic, and today the myth-making industry works for those who can pay for it. Who benefits from this myth? First, for those who are interested in the departure ("repatriation") of Jews from other countries and their collection in the Promised Land, without waiting for the coming of the Messiah. Judophobia contributes most of all to this. Phobias in modern society are also not born by themselves, this has long been trained on stock exchanges, technologies have been worked out. There is motive and opportunity. Secondly, ... request
            2. +2
              21 March 2020 12: 31
              I wonder how Russia can be part of a non-existent state, I mean something called Kievan Rus.
              And how did you come to terms with the fact that all your historical type Ukrainian princes (Olga, Yaroslav, etc.) are in fact occupiers for the locals, because came from the north and conquered those lands. The State of Russia was formed on the Server and expanded to the south, or your story is interpreted differently.
            3. +1
              21 March 2020 15: 02
              Quote: atalef
              Russia is part of Kievan Rus.
              But your propaganda department finds its own cadre ... Kievan Rus, Novgorod Rus, Suzdal Rus, Vladimir Rus, Moscow Rus are the names of the dominant Russian principalities at one time, and Russia is the result of the termination of the internecine wars of Russia and integration with the Horde Turks, who waged the same internecine wars with each other, and by other peoples into a single state of the imperial type.
          2. -4
            21 March 2020 09: 57
            Well, just an interesting classification of countries. Dear forgot to write about Atlantis. It’s as easy as a country called an empire or a state. More understandable and closer to the common man is a successful country in the political, economic, cultural development of the country or not. This is the type of modern RF that is the big question. And then I remembered about the empire.
            1. +1
              21 March 2020 10: 01
              You can take it as you like, but this will not change the existing and the historical paradigm of our country will not change! And Atlantis has nothing to do with it at all, but if you are my compatriot, then you have a poor understanding of History as a science ... But this does not surprise me! The level of knowledge after the collapse of the USSR catastrophically falls! hi
          3. 0
            April 13 2020 10: 51
            As Dragunsky wrote: "Pearls worthy of Mitrofanushka". Germany has never been an empire, because before Bismarck the state of Germany simply did not exist. And Napoleon was called emperor just like that? And David and Solomon were kings without a state? And the Holy Roman Empire, which existed for several centuries, also did not exist? Was there no empire of ancient Rome either? Your knowledge of history is weak
            1. 0
              April 13 2020 13: 40
              I am glad for you that you have a strong knowledge in history laughing but I didn’t write about historical names, but about the mental predisposition of the nation ... You can call yourself anything - even the Galactic Empire, but you can’t become an empire from this! That is the question!
        3. 0
          21 March 2020 10: 25
          Quote: atalef
          There are many Slavic peoples - and they live beautifully - since when have Russians been the hegemons of the Slavic peoples?

          Something I do not see that the Slavic peoples, who were torn apart like "Tuzik hot water bottle", live well. But they have to lick someone else's Tohas well and a lot. There is always a choice, but there are only two.
        4. +2
          21 March 2020 11: 46
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: Finches
          Everyone needs to understand a very banal truth - Ukraine is not a state
          Of course the state.

          Alas. The state is the ability to pursue an independent foreign, domestic, economic and military policy, which Ukraine does not have due to the fact that it is under external control and since 2014 has been engaged only in implementing measures related to the elimination of Ukraine as a subject of international law. The only guarantee of its existence and the preservation of sovereignty was Russia, now there is no such guarantee, since the preservation of Ukraine in the sphere of influence of Russia in the former administrative-territorial borders with a destroyed economy is fraught with huge financial and political costs, and therefore does not correspond to our interests. The maintenance of this territory within the same borders, for the EU also becomes burdensome due to the same reasons for economic insolvency, and therefore, the further disintegration of this territorial misunderstanding with the absorption of part of the territories by border countries is inevitable, which will make it possible to jointly distribute the financial burden on the maintenance of puppies between the EU countries and Russia. and at the same time will allow mattresses "almost free" to maintain and expand their presence for further pressure on Russia.
        5. 0
          21 March 2020 15: 23
          "You are not an empire, neither in terms of territory, nor in terms of GDP, nor in terms of industrial development, nor in terms of population."
          What do you dislike about the territory? 1 in the world, what do you dislike about GDP? 6 in the world in terms of PPP, what do you dislike about industrial development, 4-5 place in the world in terms of industrial production, what do you dislike about the number of population is 146,5 mln. - 9th place in the world, in all respects 10ke, you have some kind of latent Russophobia however wink
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      2. -1
        21 March 2020 16: 30
        Quote: Finches
        Despite all the nuances, Russia is the Empire, even half-dead, as it is today - but the Empire!


        Rather, it would be correct to call it: a world power (Great Power) but an empire it was already a former one. There is no monarchy (the GDP will not leave power by inheritance), there is no reliance on the estates, the same top officials / oligarchs how pro-Russian they are is a big question, given that the main capital is stored in the West, children live in the West, and laws are passed in Russia, to put it mildly unfriendly for the bulk of the population (pension reform, etc.), it seems to me that this is the western elite (c) And as for neighboring states (Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan), then Ukraine has already been torn away from the orbit of Russia and, apparently, for a long time, if not forever, what is only the remaking of history in its own way, by the way, the example with Poland is very indicative, there will be such a pro-Western Ukraine with Polish thinking. And this is, unfortunately, a reality .... Belarus is still pro-Russian, but what will happen in the future is unknown, given that Lukashenka's friendship is based on "fraternal assistance" and as there is no help, the eyes immediately fall on the EU and China. In Kazakhstan, everything is not simple there either, over time I think it will be reorganized more into economic ties with China, after all, China is a new superpower, after all, and how great the Russian influence on Kazastan will be, in a couple of decades the question is certainly interesting.
      3. +1
        21 March 2020 17: 34
        Extremely controversial theses. However, I will be interested to see how the status of the Empire protects against a pandemic when no one even thinks about quarantining.
    3. +1
      21 March 2020 06: 57
      Quote: Engineer Shchukin
      In general, a neighbor’s cow is even dead !!

      It’s a pity that you don’t feel the threat that a plague (viral) louse, with a dead cow, will not climb over the cordon.

      Fortunately, at least the borders were closed.
      1. +3
        21 March 2020 10: 20
        I read a stormy dialogue of respected colleagues ... So what a danger the coronavirus highlighted! It turns out that Ukraine is convinced that the Russian Empire is part of it. A colleague Zyablitsov logically turned to history, I - to mathematics. India could be part of the British Empire, the latter could not be part of India. And even more so, the Russian Empire could not be part of an imaginary size.
        1. +1
          21 March 2020 15: 28
          No, you are not aware of the latest historical research in Ukraine, it turns out Peter 1, captured Ukraine in order to inherit the title of Daniil Galitsky - Emperor of the Slavs !!! So you're just not in the subject wink
  2. +7
    21 March 2020 06: 33
    Coronavirus is not the worst problem of the "brotherly" people. The "viruses" of hatred, stupidity, and greed are definitely incurable.
    1. +1
      21 March 2020 07: 27
      Quote: Valery Valery
      "viruses" of hatred, stupidity, greed are definitely incurable

      Everything is treated.
      Burning with hot iron. Only the will for this action is needed.
    2. -3
      21 March 2020 11: 42
      Quote: Valery Valery
      The "viruses" of hatred, stupidity, and greed are definitely incurable.

      Such viruses are present in representatives of "fraternal peoples" on both sides of the border. And everyone thinks that his "viruses" are so. Mild influenza, but with a neighbor .... Only with a red-hot iron, yes. Thought-start with yourself even It doesn’t come to my mind. We’re so cathedral. And auto-tycoon. Everyone is the salt of the earth and the chosen one. That's how unlucky with a neighbor ...
      1. -1
        21 March 2020 15: 30
        Yeah, remember Odessa on May 2, is it such a light flu?
        1. -1
          23 March 2020 13: 08
          The Nazis were brought to Odessa deliberately. In the same way, in the Russian Federation, you can bring to one point everyone who wants to "... Ukraine ... with a hot iron ..." and there will be many of them too. Maybe even more than Ukrainians, due to the larger population. Only here, on the site, there are a lot of them. And all over Russia? And now they have "just and righteous anger", and their Ukrainian "colleagues" have animal hatred, yeah.
          1. -1
            24 March 2020 06: 12
            It is possible, of course, both in Russia and the USA, and much more can be done, but it happened in Ukraine! Put at least 10 cons!
            1. -2
              24 March 2020 13: 44
              Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin
              You can of course in Russia and the United States

              Well, you see, you are already beginning to admit that the problem is multifaceted, and only a coincidence of circumstances allows you to remain d'Artagnans against the background of representatives of non-d'Artagnans around hi .
              Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin
              Put at least 10 cons!

              Enough and one to confirm, I'm right, you are not.
              1. +1
                24 March 2020 16: 28
                You would be right if what is happening in Ukraine was not a repetition of events a hundred years ago, so for Ukraine, this is not a tragic accident and coincidence, but a pattern!
  3. +2
    21 March 2020 06: 34
    “Busik” is a wretched and unfortunate child of economic inequality, labor migration, unemployment, the severance of economic ties and political instability in the form of vehicles living in a certain gray zone of reality. “Busiks” do not have bus stations and train stations, you cannot buy tickets for them, but becoming their passenger is easier than ever.

    And how many of these "Busiks" with passengers drives along the roads of Russia. They also arrange a race against death. Author, don't you know?
    For example, a conscious and socially responsible citizen Anna Tyszkiewicz, having arrived from Polish Poznan, decided to isolate herself from people first, and later find a way to get tested for coronavirus. The girl phoned all the Kiev hospitals with this request, but achieved nothing

    Author, try calling our hospital, say that you have just arrived from Italy and you are not feeling well. Doctors (at least beyond the Moscow Ring Road) will not come to you.
    1. +2
      21 March 2020 14: 15
      Doctors (at least beyond the Moscow Ring Road) will not come to you


      Ekb.
      Our engineer flew in from Korea, the temperature rose, and on arrival he signed a paper on self-isolation, he called an ambulance and came to him. The test is taken, now he is sitting at home and waiting for the results of the second test, the first, the glory of God is negative.
      So you are wrong.

      But those "animals" who do not sit at home and cough, hang around the streets, they cause me disgust ..
    2. +1
      21 March 2020 15: 35
      To be honest, this "zamkadobesie" is already tired, we live here normally, NORMAL, and the ambulance works for us, and the Ministry of Emergencies, there are roads, and even high-speed Internet is present, and people are responsive!
  4. +4
    21 March 2020 06: 43
    Yes, there is such a problem. It is necessary for Russia to help the DPR, LPR to survive the epidemic.
  5. +6
    21 March 2020 06: 55
    There is really no need for gloating here, especially since we, like nikruti, are they good or bad neighbors. In our government, too, at one time there were enough individual ministers, I won’t get personal, and everyone knows that.
  6. 0
    21 March 2020 06: 58
    An article from the category "And THEM is even worse." What do we care about suburban health care. what
  7. sen
    +1
    21 March 2020 07: 09
    In eastern China, Zhejiang launched the first possible cure for coronavirus.
    In this case, we are talking about a Japanese drug, formerly known as Favipiravir or Avigan.
    “This is the first drug in the country that received official approval during the outbreak of coronavirus to be included in the list of drugs that can be effective in treatment,” the city government said in a statement.
    With us it is not approved for use.
    The Japanese say that he has side effects.
    1. +3
      21 March 2020 14: 37
      Quote: sen
      In eastern China, Zhejiang launched the first possible cure for coronavirus.
      In this case, we are talking about a Japanese drug, formerly known as Favipiravir or Avigan.
      “This is the first drug in the country that received official approval during the outbreak of coronavirus to be included in the list of drugs that can be effective in treatment,” the city government said in a statement.
      With us it is not approved for use.
      The Japanese say that he has side effects.


      hi
      Each country has its own ways. We have shown good results with the drug Kaletra® (lopinavir + ritonavir) I draw the attention of members of the forum that it is not suitable for self-medication from the word at all, prescription and is strictly supervised, plus an additional pharmacy is added to it. Production of its full cycle was launched in Russia and in February its production increased sharply.
      As the conclusion will be ready, they will make recommendations, for now they continue to work and look for methods.
      In general, training is going well in Russia, for example, in Kommunarka they are now preparing small groups of specialists for other institutions, if they have to be re-trained, the group gains experience and goes on to transfer it.
      Small - so that if there is an incident in the group, everyone does not drop out.
      1. sen
        +1
        21 March 2020 17: 35
        A Beijing trial tested HIV drugs called lopinavir and ritonavir in people who were seriously ill with COVID-19 pneumonia.
        A comparison of the results of 94 people who received the medication with the results of 100 patients who received standard care did not show any benefit from the HIV medication.
        https://scientificrussia.ru/news/preparaty-protiv-vich-ne-pomogali-lechit-koronavirus-v-klinicheskih-ispytaniyah

        But you are right, each country offers its own medicine. For example, Israel is testing its drug Remdesivir and seems to have received encouraging results. The US is also testing it.
  8. +1
    21 March 2020 07: 41
    Look at the root: and in the end, Russia will have to cope / help / resolve this crisis if it turns into a mortal threat to the people of Ukraine.
  9. +2
    21 March 2020 07: 43
    Someone is getting scared of me. The chain is being traced: Zaraza-Ukraine-zarazobitane (millions) -Russia-migrant workers (millions) -Uzbekistan (I live here)!
  10. +2
    21 March 2020 08: 11
    Apparently Ukraine decided to quietly use the virus in order to get rid of its older generations. And those who do not agree to finish off, and pensions do not have to pay.
  11. +2
    21 March 2020 08: 35
    some hysteria in all troubles to seek Ukraine.
    Even with the promoted brand "Hands of the Kremlin" in all Ukrainian affairs, it never occurred to anyone to write about the Kremlin's fault in the virus in Ukraine.
    All patients brought the virus from Europe, from the Russian Federation tourists even more. Accordingly, and sick.
    This is not the first article about coronovirus in Ukraine - and descriptions of horrors there.
    And not a single one in the Russian Federation.
    Again, the necessary information background - everything is calm in Baghdad (and everything is bad in Basra)
  12. +3
    21 March 2020 08: 38
    I look at you like in a mirror .... Yes, everything is the same with us, and reduction and reduction. when money came to medicine, she died. The task of doctors under capitalism is to make it (medicine) as economical as possible for the budget. Nobody needs a healthy person, he does not spend money on paid treatment, so he does not support domestic pharmaceuticals, etc. Western medicine has been imprisoned, and ours, too, to make money comfortable for itself, China, therefore, made sure that there was still a socialist approach — a healthy citizen was needed, and how much it would require money was not important.
  13. +7
    21 March 2020 08: 40
    Yes, we should not be "afraid" of Ukraine, but Europe ... We managed to isolate ourselves from China, but our officials did not expect such a "gift" from Europe ... But how can you expect it when they have dachas, khatynki, children , grandchildren ... So they brought this infection with them from "civilized" Europe ...
  14. 0
    21 March 2020 09: 06
    According to the most optimistic forecasts of Ukrainians themselves, more than 2019 thousand people were infected with measles in Ukraine only in 50, and about 10 thousand died.

    Diphtheria is no better. At the end of last year, this obsolete, it would seem, disease was discovered in twenty Ukrainians.


    And this cesspool will creep up very quickly ...
  15. -1
    21 March 2020 09: 40
    Quote: Finches
    then like the Jews - they never had their own state

    Ancient jewish kingdom. Founded by the prophet Samuel and the first king of Israel, Shaul, the foundation of the kingdom dates from XI century BC e.
  16. -3
    21 March 2020 09: 58
    According to the most optimistic forecasts of Ukrainians themselves, more than 2019 thousand people were infected with measles in Ukraine only in 50, and about 10 thousand died.
    The measles epidemic continues in Ukraine. Since the beginning of 2019, they have become ill around 60 thousand people, 18 of them died from complications.
  17. +1
    21 March 2020 09: 59
    It seems that Suprun and his team, long before the coronavirus, began to prepare for him an indestructible springboard for development, and Ukraine and its people, no matter how awful it may sound, for an early fatal reorganization. That's really really "Doctor Death", as in a woman's poster. sad
    1. -2
      21 March 2020 14: 10
      Ulyana-Nadiya Dzhordzhevna Suprun (Yurkiv) is the same quasi-medical as the US citizen Roman Mikhailovich Zvarich (appointed by the "Maydan-Minister of Justice" ?! request
      No, well, some American primary health care courses for visiting nurses-nurses this Ukrodiasporyan Bandera seems to have finished and even supposedly has a "certificate of educational program" ?! winked
      But for her affairs, as well as regular public "vytupleniyam" in ukroSMI, this, alas, can not be said!

      The goal of the Washington neo-colonialists and their "ukroapartheid" regime is to destroy the Russian and Russian-speaking majority of the population of the territory of the former ex-Ukrainian SSR, which during the years of anti-popular "rozbudovy nezalezhnisti" was transformed by transatlantic "common people" and their local kleptoholuyi-collaboratively developed Soviet republics, from the economic and the impoverished feudal-bourgeois colony "failed state Ukraine"!
  18. VLR
    +3
    21 March 2020 11: 18
    China, as well as South Korea and Japan have demonstrated the effectiveness of their health care system, they have already coped with their epidemic. But the vaunted health systems of the European Union countries, which we are supposed to talk about with aspiration, turned out to be "rotten" and ineffective.
    But, the most interesting thing is different: now a scandal begins, connected with the fact that WHO officials have declared the coronavirus infection pandemic illegally! It does not meet the standards and parameters of the definition of "pandemic" developed by WHO itself (!) - in terms of prevalence, morbidity, danger and mortality. Leading epidemiologists and virologists in many countries are already openly talking about this, but the genie of hysteria has already broken free, no one asks specialists who only have the right to express their opinion on this matter, and no one listens - they listen to "home experts. sofas ".

    “Today, there is an urgent need to conduct an independent investigation of the reasons prompting WHO to recommend measures beneficial to pharmaceutical companies, especially when these recommendations are based on falsified data and unscientific facts. The time has come to share the interests of world health and WHO experts, ”- these words conclude the article by Dr. Marc Girard (France) in the very authoritative scientific journal Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons.
    But have you heard anything about this?
  19. -3
    21 March 2020 11: 43
    Shaw, are you so worried? We have already found a way out!
    The main military medical department of the defense department, using the experience of American mentors, in order to prevent it from being infected with coronavirus, decided "to flush the intestinal tract with enemas."
    After receiving this information in the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, located in Nikolaev and the Nikolaev region, panic mood of personnel is noted, as well as a massive purchase of toilet paper in nearby stores, which provoked its shortage.

    In addition to toilet paper, there is a shortage of newspapers and brochures in local supermarkets, Ukrainian servicemen collect free classified newspapers and free press, ”the defense department of the Republic added.

    Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1584711839
    We washed the brains of the people, now we’ll rinse it off ... the rest of the body and heal!
    1. -2
      21 March 2020 17: 22
      Quote: Egoza
      Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1584711839

      Let scribblers from this garbage wash their intestines and brains
  20. +2
    21 March 2020 12: 20
    It seems like democracy, but you can’t put a minus.
  21. -5
    21 March 2020 14: 33
    Tuberculosis, diphtheria, measles, coronavirus + US Army biological laboratories - we must tightly plunge our borders with the Outskirts and Belarus (the latter also scored for quarantine measures).

    The same thing needs to be organized on the border of the Outskirts with the Donbass (let the locals decide where they want to live).
    1. -1
      21 March 2020 15: 54
      Quote: Operator
      The same thing needs to be organized on the border of the Outskirts with the Donbass (let the locals decide where they want to live).

      In order to implement quarantine measures on the border with ex-Ukraine, we need to at least go beyond those borders.
      And the formation that you apparently perceived as "the border of the Outskirts with the Donbass" is nothing more than just a "demarcation line", in fact - a front line.
  22. +1
    21 March 2020 16: 08
    The black look is too much. Of course, there is much less money in Ukraine, there is no oil and gas in export quantities, and there are more than enough oligarchs, corrupt officials and thieves. Maybe more than in Russia in relative quantities, but hardly more. Ukraine is an oligarchic-bureaucratic state, Russia is a bureaucratic-oligarchic state. What's on the forehead, what's on the forehead. I cut the budget for the deputies who came to power both here and there. The level of control in Russia is possibly larger, and therefore order. But in Ukraine there is at least some real opposition and at least some choice of power. Still to bring any puppeteers.
    And Suprun somehow, but took up the reform, maybe not she, but people under her signboard. What they did not do before, but something needs to be done. But surely the level of preparedness for coronavirus is less than in Russia, and even more so in the European Union, and even more so in the USA or China. How lucky it will be.
  23. -2
    21 March 2020 17: 09
    Quote: Insurgent
    In order to implement quarantine measures on the border with ex-Ukraine, we need to at least go beyond these borders

    Only subject to border crossing with Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania bully
  24. +1
    23 March 2020 17: 46
    Dear author, than peeking out a speck from your neighbor, it is better to pull a log out of your eye! And here is proof of this at the expense of the existence of a log in our, Russian eye: puls-planeta.mirtesen.ru/blog/43958177500/-Myi-obyichnyie-holopyi-Pochemu-na-koronavirus-testiruyut-VIPov-?utm_referrer=mirtesen.ru=utm_campaign transit & utm_source = main & utm_medium = page_0 & domain = mirtesen.ru & paid = 1 & pad = 1
    And what is better than in Ukraine the situation with the fight against coronovirus is with us ?!
  25. 0
    5 January 2021 15: 41
    I made a website about the coronavirus https://coronavirus-vse-mery.ru/ - I will write about the sore one