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Armored vehicles of Germany in the Second World War. Part 3. The tank industry of the Third Reich

In Germany’s tank building, there are three conditional periods. The beginning of the first - the appearance in the Reichswehr inspection on weapons and mat. units that combined infantry and artillery design bureaus, as well as a pyrotechnic laboratory. The inspectorate developed TTT for armored vehicles, as well as engaged in the examination of prototypes. Officially, its activities were limited only to armored vehicles developed in Hannover-Linden by Deutsche Edelshtalverke.

Direct work on tanks began in the second half of the 1920s at three engineering plants in secret workshops. After the Nazi party came to power, the process went much more intensively.

The beginning of the second stage coincided, in fact, with the transformation of the Reichswehr into the Wehrmacht. In tank building, the customer was Oberkommando des Heeres (General Command of the Ground Forces, OKN). According to the rules adopted at that time, the design, delivery of orders, acceptance weapons, ammunition and military equipment, development of plans for the mat. providing your own production program. Regulatory functions were vested in the Waffenamt (Armaments Department), which included acceptance, design, and WaPruf-6 (testing), engineering and inspection departments. The Armaments Directorate was supposed to finance the tank industry, and also to transfer the purchased units, assemblies, corps, towers, motors, transmissions, armament, optical instruments, radio and electrical equipment to tank collecting enterprises.

By the end of the 1930s. German tank building was under the jurisdiction of at least nine large concerns that were engaged in the supply of armored hulls and tanks. They controlled 32 businesses owned by 27 different companies. It is characteristic that these firms specialized in several areas at once. For example, out of eight Daimler-Benz enterprises, only one was engaged in the production of tanks. The other four were engaged in car manufacturing three more - aviation motors. During the war years, the situation practically did not change.

Armored vehicles of Germany in the Second World War. Part 3. The tank industry of the Third Reich
Workshop for the production of gun barrels of the German factory Rheinmetall-Borzing (Rheinmetall-Borsig) on ​​the eve of the war

The beginning of the third and, probably, the most interesting period is 1940 year. The Second World War, which unfolded in Europe, demanded adjustments in industry. The formation of new parts suffered greatly from a lack of equipment and weapons. Production of tanks lagged behind the needs of the Wehrmacht in them. Yes, it probably could not have been otherwise, since the mobilization of the economy was limited. Moreover, almost all areas of the economy used a rather peculiar way: they switched endlessly from the release of one product to another. At the same time, planning, as a rule, was adjusted to the priorities of military-strategic measures. In addition, it was necessary to urgently solve many other organizational issues related to improving the efficiency of the use of production capacity, labor productivity and the redistribution of labor forces.

A way out of this situation was found. 17 March 1940 created the Reichsministerium die Waffe und Munition (Special Imperial Ministry of Arms and Ammunition), headed by engineer F. Todt. He is better known to Russian readers as the founder and leader of the national construction organization Todt. It was thanks to his efforts that the famous Reichsautobans were built. The same energy pressure was probably necessary in the military industry. However, Todt soon died in a plane crash.

After him, the ministry was headed by an equally talented organizer - architect Speer. In a rather short period of two years, Speer managed to increase the production of armored vehicles three times. Therefore, it is not surprising that the time of his leadership of the ministry is often called the “era of Speer.”

The German tanks Pz.Kpfw. V Ausf. D "Panther" and Pz.Kpfw. VI ausf.H "Tiger" in the courtyard of the plant of the company "Henschel"

Now the Ministry of Arms and Ammunition was engaged in supply planning, issuing orders, and managing experimental work through the commander in chief of tank construction. The scrupulousness of the approach can be judged by the structural subdivisions of the main committee: the production and repair of tanks, the design and supervision of production, the improvement of armor, the manufacture of lightly armored vehicles, engines, supplies, and others.

Consider the new scheme of "birth" of armored vehicles. The General Staff of the ground forces, taking into account the wishes of practitioners from the front-line units, gave an approximate tactical and technical task to the weapons control (the General Staff also determined the necessary amount of equipment). In WaPruf-6, the task was worked out in detail, after which it was transferred to the commander-in-chief for tank construction, who, in turn, selected two or three design companies. A special commission consisting of representatives of stakeholders studied the finished projects from which the best was chosen. The design office that submitted the selected project was designated as the lead for this design, although the enterprise itself could not receive an order for the serial production of its own offspring.

Prototypes were subjected to a comprehensive run-in at the Kummersdorf Central Test Site, located near Berlin. Also, tests were conducted in the branches of the landfill: at the mountain testing site in Thuringia, as well as in the Tyrolean Alps at the so-called snow training ground. And only after that the question of the transfer of a self-propelled unit or tank to the stream was decided. The total output was determined by the high command of the German army. The distribution of orders among factories and firms was carried out by the Ministry of Arms and Ammunition. Armored vehicles in the ministry were in charge of the main tank production group. If the plan for the production of tanks was more or less stable, then the programs for the production of towers, logging for self-propelled guns and armored hulls, which were also drafted for a year, could be repeatedly adjusted.

The “geography” of Germany’s tank building was mainly determined by strategic considerations. Production facilities to reduce their vulnerability to aerial bombardments were deliberately dispersed. The principle of duplication of deliveries of main units and nodes from various enterprises was also taken into account.

It should be noted that as far as such cooperation was developed, it was just as complicated. For example, for the production of "Panther" 136 subcontractors were involved. The cases were supplied by 6 factories, towers - 5, gearboxes - 3, engines - 2, tracks - 4, optics - 1, weapons - 1, forgings - 15, steel - castings - 14, the rest - finished parts, assemblies and fasteners.

Workshop for the assembly of German medium tanks Pz.Kpfw. III

In connection with the successes that emerged from the results of the first year of the campaign against the Soviet Union, there was a trend towards the movement of Germany’s tank building to the East. A special commission for the production of tanks and spare parts in December 41 year studied the possibility of attracting the industry of occupied Ukraine for their own needs. Excellent prospects for the production of armored tanks opened at the Mariupol plant them. Ilyich captured by the Germans. However, the rapidly changing situation on the German-Soviet front in the region did not allow to realize these far-reaching plans. And after the Wehrmacht suffered defeat on the Volga and Kursk, stopped the production of tank units, even in Poland and Silesia.

From the second half of 43, large tank factories located in Germany became the target of attacks by Allied aviation. For example, until the end of the year, Daimler-Benz production facilities located in Berlin were bombed three times. In 44, MAN's plants were added to them, as well as almost all the enterprises located in the Rhine-Westphalian industrial area and engaged in the production of armored corpses.

In order to avoid failures in the well-established system of tank building, part of orders for important units and parts had to be transferred to small manufacturers. At the large enterprises, however, they began to move some workshops, groups of machine tools together with the personnel to safe places, as well as ... underground. So, for example, in September 44 of the year, almost half of the Daimler-Benz structural divisions, which specialized in the production of control mechanisms, the underside of the box and chassis for the Panther, relocated to the small towns of Falkensee near Berlin, Fitz near Kustrin, Kzeritz in Pomerania, Teltows, Overaprausnitsy in the Sudetenland, and even in the wine cellar of the Deulivag company We considered the placement of production equipment in the potash mines, in the former fortifications in Czechoslovakia, in caves ...

Tank Pz IV was an example of a fairly successful design. Its production at the Reich plants continued until the end of the war. This photo shows a tank of modifications H, which was tested at the Kummersdorf test site in 1944.

The measures taken to shift production, naturally, did not contribute to the realization of the advantages of modern mass-flow production, but only increased the already intense traffic flows. Despite this, Speer presented these circumstances as a virtue, saying that "German arms production does not accept the conveyor method of the USA and the USSR, but relies mainly on skilled German labor." Although it was the absence of large enterprises that did not allow German tank building to withstand competition with the tank building of the countries of the anti-fascist coalition. German serial armor was divided into several groups according to steel grade and thickness. Along with heterogeneous, more homogenous armor was produced. According to the production technology, armor plates were divided into surface-hardened bronelists and uniformly hardened. After the loss of the Nikopol basin, manganese supply to Germany decreased. Nickel was delivered only from the north of Finland.

The result of the constant lack of alloying elements was the deterioration in the quality of serial armor. For example, the front sheets of the Royal Tiger and Panther corps were quite often simply cracked after being hit by Soviet 122- and even 100-mm armor-piercing shells. To get out of this situation, protective screens were hung, increasing the thickness and angles of inclination of the armor plates. Among the armor grades of steels that have a reduced durability of structural material, with satisfactory projectile resistance have not been found.

Now a few words about the contribution of tank construction of the occupied countries to the completion of the fleet of Wehrmacht armored vehicles. About Hungary and Italy will be discussed separately, since these countries were satellites of Germany and armed mostly with their own armies. At the same time, Italian enterprises carried out some limited orders for the German armed forces. Tank enterprises of France and Poland were used for improvised rework, as well as the repair of captured vehicles and the manufacture of spare parts for them. Not a single self-propelled artillery mount or tank was assembled there.

Assembling the undercarriage of the tank Pz.Kpfw. VI "Tiger" at one of the plants in Germany



Production of tanks, assault guns, tank destroyers and self-propelled guns in 1934 — 1945 was: in 1934-1937. - 1876 units, 1938 g. - 804 units, 1939 g. - 743 units, 1940 g. - 1743 units, 1941 g. - 3728 units, 1942 g. - 5496 units, 1943 g. - 12052. units, 1944 g. - 18821 units, 1945 g. - 3945 units. In total, 34 units were produced between 45 and 49208 in the year.

In total, 75513 armored vehicles were produced in Germany (or on its orders).

In addition, many commander tanks (guns were absent), repair and evacuation vehicles, artillery mobile posts and other equipment were released. Given this technology, the total number of armored vehicles was 89266 machines.

To this number, you must add the captured technique, which entered the Wehrmacht - 1577 units.

Thus, the armed forces of Nazi Germany received and used during the Second World 90843 armored vehicle object.

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

The production of tanks and self-propelled guns in the Soviet Union during World War II was: 1940 y. - 2421 tank; 1941 g. - 6542 tank; 1942 g. - 24445 tanks and 59 ACS (total 24504 units); 1943 g. - 19892 tank and 4194 ACS (total 24086 units); 1944 g. - 16923 tank and 12061 ACS (total 28987 units); 1945 g. - 16295 tanks and 9640 ACS (total 25935 units.). In total, in the period from 1940 to 1945, 112475 tanks and SPGs were launched.

UK and USA

Production of tanks in the UK during the Second World War was: 1939 g. - 315 units; 1940 g. - 1399 unit; 1941 g. - 4841 unit; 1942 g. - 8611 unit; 1943 g. - 7476 unit; 1944 g. - 2474 unit; 1945 g. - 612 units The Canadian industry also worked in the UK, producing 5807 tanks. The total production of tanks - 31534 machines.

Production of tanks in the United States during the Second World War was: 1939 g. - 96 units; 1940 g. - 331 unit; 1941 g. - 4052 unit; 1942 g. - 24997 unit; 1943 g. - 29497 unit; 1944 g. - 17565 unit; 1945 g. - 11558 units For the United States, 43481 ACS must be added to the number of tanks. The total number of armored vehicles issued by the US industry during this period was 131577 units.

In 40 — 41, German tank-building companies on the orders of mines. Arms and ammunition ordered some parts to small machine-building firms in Belgium, France, Romania, Denmark. Attempts were made to conclude contracts in Switzerland, Sweden, Yugoslavia.

About the two countries should be said separately. In March, the 39 of the year under the protectorate of Germany passed the most developed areas of Czechoslovakia - Moravia and the Czech Republic. The ČKD tank factories located in them in Prague (the Germans renamed VMM) and Skoda in Pilsen until the end of the war first produced light tanks and later self-propelled self-propelled guns based on them. For political reasons, the leaders of the Third Reich did not dare to develop the production of heavy or medium tanks of German design there.

The heaviest serial tank of the Second World War "Tiger II". Launched into mass production at Henschel’s plants in January 1944.

Austria suffered the same fate. She was annexed to Germany in 1938. Even before the beginning of the Second World War, on the basis of the Styrian mines, located near Linz, they began the construction of a large metallurgical plant to meet the growing needs of the German tank industry. Soon at this enterprise appeared workshops engaged in the production of armored hulls. At the same time, similar workshops in Kalfenberg started working at the old Beler plant. This made it possible to build heavy and medium tanks in St. Valentine at the Nibelungen plant. The products of this company, as well as the Czech VMM and Skoda, have always been listed as German.

What is the result of the production activities of the German tank industry in 34 — 45? It is logical to take data that is the most objective, given by reputable researchers, therefore, and the least corrected for moral, ideological and other reasons.

In this regard, preference should be given to the German author Müller-Hillebrand, although the third volume of the book “Ground Army of Germany 1933 — 1945”, translated into Russian and published in 1976 in the Military Publishing House, differs from the original in the absence of a single application. It contains information of interest to us.

There are other sources. However, most of them were published in the West and to a wide circle of Russian readers are still unavailable.

According to the materials of the article by Igor Shmelev, the magazine "Equipment and weapons"

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  1. Prohor
    Prohor 26 July 2012 08: 26
    Perhaps the only situation in which the Soviet centrally planned economy has advantages is war.
    In the event of an attack on Germany, its economy with "skilled German labor" would collapse overnight!
    The incredibly fast recovery of Soviet industry in the rear is one of the main reasons for the Victory.
    1. Tirpitz
      Tirpitz 26 July 2012 09: 58
      Quote: Prokhor
      the only situation in which the Soviet centrally planned economy has advantages is war.

      This economy was created for total war.
  2. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 26 July 2012 09: 09
    I did not understand the final part of the article:

    What is the result of the production activities of the German tank-building industry in the years 34–45? It is logical to take the data that are the most objective, given by authoritative researchers, and therefore the least corrected for moral, ideological and other reasons.

    In this regard, preference should be given to the German author Müller-Hillebrand, although the third volume of the book “Ground Army of Germany 1933 — 1945”, translated into Russian and published in 1976 in the Military Publishing House, differs from the original in the absence of a single application. It contains information of interest to us.

    There are other sources. However, most of them were published in the West and to a wide circle of Russian readers are still unavailable.

    So what? At least see the author’s answer, since these sources are inaccessible to us ...
  3. Poppy
    Poppy 26 July 2012 10: 52
    the German economy was also quite planned, it just went to the military regime only in the 44th, which immediately affected the quantity of weapons
    Plus, the Germans sought to take quality, not quantity
    Their mega idea is to make a super tank, a super plane, etc.
    And ours took in quantity - 10 T-34 per Tiger, etc.
    1. borisst64
      borisst64 26 July 2012 11: 56
      "And ours took the amount - 10 T-34s for one Tiger, etc."

      We read carefully: Germany - 90843 objects of armored vehicles.
      USSR - 112475 tanks and self-propelled guns. Lend-lease is not taken into account here, but nevertheless I think even 2-fold superiority will not be. And no wonder, since before the end of the war the Germans produced cars at four factories.
      1. Poppy
        Poppy 26 July 2012 12: 01
        Do you think German tanks fought only against the USSR?
      2. Brother Sarych
        Brother Sarych 26 July 2012 13: 12
        The Germans counted the tanks from the very beginning, and the USSR only from 1940, that is, almost twenty thousand have not been included (junk, of course, with dubious combat readiness, but still) ... if you add a land lease and discard the German command tanks, there will be almost a double advantage ...
  4. Stas57
    Stas57 26 July 2012 11: 01
    For our country, and its leadership, who remembered the lessons of WWI well, the planned economy, in the situation in which we found ourselves, was probably the only right choice.
    and not only in matters of armament, but also in matters of 5 columns, well, that’s right, the lyrics

    However, it should be noted that the completely "unplanned" US economy also showed miracles of production.
    1940 g. - 331 units .; 1941 g. - 4052 units .; 1942 g. - 24997 units .;
    But I think that was not our way :)
    1. Gecko
      Gecko 26 July 2012 11: 38
      This is thanks to the in-line assembly line in the USA and the USSR.
      1. Stas57
        Stas57 26 July 2012 11: 49
        the conveyor in the USSR is not always and not everywhere, often on slipways.
  5. master_rem
    master_rem 26 July 2012 11: 24
    Well, yes, pay me gold for a Lend-Lease when I don’t have a job, you won’t see such miracles) Regards.
    1. Stas57
      Stas57 26 July 2012 11: 31
      yeah, and still have to, As of the 2003 year, Russia owes approximately 100 million US dollars.
  6. Kars
    Kars 26 July 2012 11: 38
    The Fritzes were too presumptuous --- Poland and France relaxed them.
  7. apro
    apro 26 July 2012 12: 26
    The Germans' industry was superior in capabilities to ours. The Germans were killed by tigers and panthers, and the glittering technique brought resources to production, it was easier to modernize 4 and sharply increase the number of fuss with the zoo cost the Germans victory.
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 26 July 2012 12: 37
      Well, about the victory, you certainly got excited, they could not win in principle
      but regarding the development of 4 instead of tigers and, especially, panther, I agree
  8. rainer
    rainer 26 July 2012 12: 27
    Ndaa ... And why does the afftor declare that the Wehrmacht used so few captured tanks?
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 26 July 2012 12: 37
      by the way, yes, the trophy all involved
      although we also used trophies
  9. sonovlad
    sonovlad 26 July 2012 13: 15
    manufacturability is very important for military equipment. The Tigers and Panthers, with all their excellent performance characteristics, were absolutely not suitable for mass production, and therefore lost
    1. The centurion
      The centurion 26 July 2012 14: 36
      Quote: sonovlad
      manufacturability is very important for military equipment

      And for the victory, the maintainability of the tanks is very important. In 44-45 years, our tank crews did average repairs over the 6-8 hours with the replacement of the engine and gearbox in the field. The Germans during this time could only replace the internal ice rink on the Tiger or Panther. Due to poor maintainability, they and their tanks lugged around like a cat and kittens along the front-workshop and back. Our 95% of vehicles damaged during the battle were restored by the crews and REG in the field for no more than one night and went into battle again. Since the 43 of the year, our tankers had a law: by the end of the day, ANY PRICE the battlefield should remain with us. This made it possible, under cover of night, to evacuate all of their damaged vehicles from the battlefield and repair them in the morning and prevent the Germans from evacuating damaged vehicles. Evacuation of vehicles from the battlefield was carried out during the battle. To do this, from tank companies to 2-3 vehicles stood out in the REG (repair and recovery group). During the 1 battle, the REG vehicle maneuvering with fire and caterpillars, covering the damaged vehicle with its body, made it possible for the crew and another REG vehicle to moor and tow it into the shelter for repair. By 43, all commanders understood the role and importance of the REG and singled out the best vehicles and the best crews in the REG. It was worth it. More than half of the failures (damage to tracks, engine cooling systems, breakage of control rods, etc.) did not require much time to be fixed, but this could not be done under fire. After the evacuation from the battlefield, the machine again went into battle again after 1-3 hours. Here is such a technology of victory.
      1. Brother Sarych
        Brother Sarych 26 July 2012 17: 40
        It would be very good if it really were - it seems it was not quite so after all ...
        1. The centurion
          The centurion 27 July 2012 07: 45
          Quote: Brother Sarich
          It would be very good if it really were - it seems it was not quite so after all ...

          Not very relevant skepticism. Every business has its own technology: victory, defeat, betrayal, betrayal, wrecking, uplift, recession, crisis, etc. This technology of tank victory was worked out already at the beginning of the war by the great tanker, then the brigade commander Katukov successfully applied in the fight against Guderian’s tankers near Moscow. Then Belov’s cavalry corps, which included Katukov’s tank brigade, defeated Guderian’s tank army near Tula. This phenomenon (the defeat of the tank army by the military corps) was the first in history and recorded in the Guinness Book of Records. For this defeat, Hitler wanted to shoot Guderian, but his sidekick stood up and saved from the wall. By order of Stalin, Katukov wrote a small manual after the battle, which described this technology in detail. She became a psalter for tankers for many years. Not all tankers immediately realized the whole essence of technology, but by the 44 year such a tank battle was no longer exceptional, but universal. When German tankers cry in their memoirs that there were so many Russian tanks that they simply didn’t have time to knock them out, that’s not all true. The abundance of Russian tanks in the last 2 years of the war is a merit not only of manufacturers, but primarily of front-line repairmen, tank crews and designers who created maintainable structures. More than 95% of vehicles damaged in battle returned to service, more than half in a few hours. The tank has only 2 main causes of irretrievable loss. Is it to throw it to the enemy or if ammunition and fuel detonate from combat damage, everything else needs to be repaired. The Germans had such statistics only at the beginning of the war, when the battlefield almost always remained behind them and they could calmly repair not only their own, but also captured vehicles. It is embarrassing for some of our boobies that in the first months of the war the Red Army killed more tanks than the Germans had. They giggle maliciously and blame the sources for lying. Meanwhile, this is the usual tank statistics. Yesterday, a wrecked (or rather damaged) tank is repaired at night, and in the morning it goes into battle again and it needs to be knocked out again. But as the combat experience of our soldiers grew and the maintainability of new German vehicles decreased, this advantage came to naught. The innate servility of German tankers also played a disservice. In the photo they can be seen with a canister, while loading the ammunition in the car, but never with a key or a sledgehammer. Only at the very end of the war did they begin to help their repairmen repair cars from under a stick, but it was too late. This swagger has not yet been eradicated. While working in the West, I was struck by dirt in steelmaking workshops, in Russian this can be called a "mess". It was very difficult for the steelworkers to make clean up spill and debris. The Russian master could easily take a shovel and a broom and remove the spill behind him, the Fritz worker only from under the stick. They have amazingly clean cities, even workers' villages, but surprisingly dirty workshops.
          The low maintainability, the small number of front-line repair personnel, the reluctance of German tank crews to participate in the repair forced the German command to constantly drag cars to the rear repair plants. Everything was aggravated by the fact that the damaged tank had to drag another, serviceable tank in tow to the rear. All this dramatically reduced the number of combat-ready vehicles at the front. Our tankers always and without coercion participated in the repair of their vehicles, believing that this failure itself is understood. This, of course, shortened its duration and increased the number of combat-ready vehicles in battle formations. Our tanks fought more than they stood idle, and the German were too long in repair. Here is such a technology of victory and such was the order in the tank troops.
          1. Stas57
            Stas57 27 July 2012 09: 57
            when Belov’s cavalry corps, which included Katukov’s tank brigade, defeated Guderian’s tank army near Tula

            and you were not mistaken? Belov had no Katukov near Tula.
            Well, then the stories about the shooting of Heinz and about the repairmen
  10. bairat
    bairat 26 July 2012 14: 24
    Quote: master_rem
    Well, yes, pay me gold for a Lend-Lease when I don’t have a job, you won’t see such miracles) Regards.

    You need to understand what Lend-Lease is, this is a weapon for temporary use. Damaged equipment, gunpowder and other gasolines were written off immediately. The debt arose due to the fact that the USSR did not return after the war thousands of locomotives, hundreds of thousands of trucks, thousands of metalworking machines, etc. received under Lend-Lease. The Americans saw the first money in the 70s, then Yeltsin gave a little more, as a result, taking into account inflation, they received back within 1% of the total amount of aid. I bow to them for that help, I would have erected a monument to Roosevelt in Moscow, but in connection with militant anti-Americanism, this will not be with our generations.
    1. Prohor
      Prohor 26 July 2012 16: 14
      Of course, we owe a lot to the allies.
      But ...
      Love for money is prostitution, it’s not in Russian somehow ...
      1. Leisure
        Leisure 26 July 2012 16: 16
        For everything paid in blood and gold.
    2. makrus
      makrus 26 July 2012 19: 37
      Quote: bairat
      I bow to them for that help, I would have erected a monument to Roosevelt in Moscow, but in connection with militant anti-Americanism, this will not be with our generations.

      No matter how we treat the United States today, they helped us, that's a fact. Roosevelt was, it seems to me, a very far-sighted person, and respected the USSR, unlike the British, who of course supported us, but their position in this war and the entire foreign policy of the 40s was vile. Suffice it to recall Churchill's statement that "they do not need this victory", against the background of the victims that the USSR suffered, questions arise about the rationality of this person.
  11. bairat
    bairat 26 July 2012 16: 54
    Quote: Prokhor
    Love for money is prostitution, it’s not in Russian somehow ...

    In Russian, it means when they show black ingratitude. Pouring mud into a country that has come to our aid in the most difficult times without a reason — this is ours. Let me remind you that in the 42nd year the railway going through Stalingrad to the Caucasus was cut. This was essentially the last supply line of the defending troops south. The loop through Central Asia, the ferry in Baku did not provide the needs at all. At this time, the trans-Iranian Lend-Lease supply route turned out to be a salvation; the troops received everything they needed from there. What the loss of the Caucasus, where 90% of our oil was produced, would probably lead to no explanation.
    1. Prohor
      Prohor 26 July 2012 20: 00
      I didn't mean it! By "in Russian" I meant something like "like in 2008 in South Ossetia."
      What kind of "lend-lease gratuitousness" are we talking about?
  12. Skavron
    Skavron 26 July 2012 20: 13
    I also noticed a strange thing ...
    the Germans counted ALL tanks, and we only after 1940 ...
    so no one compares, it is necessary to analyze with accuracy in dates ...
    already for this article is a fat minus
  13. bairat
    bairat 26 July 2012 20: 31
    Quote: Prokhor
    What kind of "lend-lease gratuitousness" are we talking about?

    "The essence of Lend-Lease was, in general, quite simple. According to the Lend-Lease law, the United States could supply equipment, ammunition, equipment, etc. to countries whose defense was vital for the States themselves. All deliveries were free. machinery, equipment and materials spent, consumed or destroyed during the war were not subject to payment. Property left after the end of the war and suitable for civilian purposes was to be paid. "
    1. Prohor
      Prohor 26 July 2012 21: 28
      In this case, explain: after the end of what kind of war, the cruiser Edinburgh was carrying 5,5 tons of gold from the USSR in 1942, sunk by the Germans?
      1. Kars
        Kars 26 July 2012 21: 34
        How many disputes about the Land Lease.
        But such a moment, few remember ---- American antibiotics.
        So, in spite of all my non-love for the Yankees, I have something to say thanks to them. For the grandfather who returned from the war, according to his stories, they were given only with the permission of the head of the hospital.

        But this does not mean that the Yankees did anything special - we were allies and destroyed the Fritz.
        1. loft79
          loft79 26 July 2012 23: 16
          You are right.

          There was still stew, color, rubber and mnongo of what else. What in the early years of the war the Soviet Union especially needed.

          The same Studebakers and others auto.
        2. Stas57
          Stas57 27 July 2012 10: 03
          and some other machines that are very important in tank production, well, not for me to tell you :)
      2. Brother Sarych
        Brother Sarych 26 July 2012 22: 44
        Edinburgh drove a fee for deliveries in addition to Lend-Lease ...
        Lend-lease is not free, it’s payment after the war of unused materials - there were frictions, what and how to consider, something paid, something remained debt ...
      3. loft79
        loft79 26 July 2012 23: 14
        It was a rollback)

        But seriously,
        then in laws you can always find a loophole or amend about money, loans, loans, terms, etc.
    2. flanker7
      flanker7 26 July 2012 21: 49
      The bottom line is to cover your ass and try to recover costs. CAPITALISM!
  14. ds4trr3ed
    ds4trr3ed 26 July 2012 21: 20
    The authorities of our country have done a lot, but this is already too much.
    I generally accidentally found him
    Here is information about each of us, for example: relatives, friends, correspondence from social networks.
    And most importantly, it is accessible to everyone, I was really scared at first - you never know what moron there will climb
    Well, the truth is that you can remove yourself from the site.
  15. _arbit
    _arbit 27 July 2012 05: 57
    Isn’t this the cruiser that the Germans sunk and after which the United States again asked for 5.5 tons of gold, although they passed it ... did it themselves?
  16. Qwerty43
    Qwerty43 27 July 2012 06: 09
    Have you seen this? Putin's current government has made this database , where you can find detailed information about each resident on the territory of the former USSR. I registered, found and deleted my data, which I advise everyone to do. And whether Mali is anyone there looking for ...
  17. bairat
    bairat 27 July 2012 07: 48
    After the outbreak of war, after realizing the scale of the catastrophe, our government began to attempt to procure weapons. Roosevelt’s Lend-Lease Act has not yet been pushed through Congress, so the first batch of weapons was paid for in gold.
  18. Yemelya
    Yemelya 27 July 2012 19: 12
    Quote 1: "And after the Wehrmacht was defeated on the Volga and Kursk Bulge, the production of tank units was stopped even in Poland and Silesia."

    Quote 2: "The tank enterprises of France and Poland were used for improvised alteration, as well as the repair of captured vehicles, the manufacture of spare parts for them. Not a single self-propelled artillery unit or tank was assembled there."

    Where is the logic?

    In Warsaw, if I am not mistaken, Pz.II was collected.