Sohu: China launched a worthy competitor to the US destroyers Zumwalt


As you know, Zumwalt is a modern type of destroyer of the U.S. Navy. But not so long ago, he had a rival, who is also one of the most promising destroyers of our time.


American Zumwalt ships are widely advertised as one of the most suitable ships for coastal and ground targets. The first destroyer of this class was launched in 2013 and three years later it entered service with the US Navy. Then the second destroyer was launched, which entered service in 2019, and the third ship is currently expected to enter service.

The US military is proud of one of the main advantages of the ship - its stealth, ensured by the use of stealth technology in the design of the destroyer. This factor allows us to operate the ship in a storm at sea, which is also important, since the sea storm is still a serious obstacle to the use of even modern warships. Zumwalt shows high stability than many other destroyers and cruisers of the United States cannot boast of. fleet.

However, judging by the contract concluded with Raytheon, which provides for further maintenance work on the destroyer, the US Navy command plans to further improve and improve Zumwalt. Repair work will be done in Portsmouth, Rhode Island, and in Tewkesbury, Massachusetts.

Meanwhile, in January 2020, the American destroyer appeared a worthy competitor. It became a ship belonging to the Navy of China - one of the most likely opponents of the United States. At least, it is at sea that China is the most important opponent of the US Navy.

Already now in the South China Sea, the US Navy is trying to demonstrate its capabilities to Chinese naval sailors, and in the foreseeable future, none of the military experts doubt the transformation of the Asia-Pacific region into a possible arena of naval confrontation between the United States and China.


So, on January 12, 2020, the first ship of the Nanchang class 055 of the Chinese Navy officially entered service. The Chinese edition of Sohu characterizes it as the most efficient surface ship of modern times. Another 5 ships of this project were launched, but have not yet been commissioned by the Navy.

Of course, "every sandpiper praises its swamp," and this is a common truth, but the Chinese destroyer really has many advantages. The main purpose of the destroyer is to provide and strengthen the missile and air defense forces and aircraft carrier formations of the Chinese fleet. By size, 055 ships in a similar class are second only to Zumwalt American ships. Interestingly, the United States still had enough funds to put into operation only 3 destroyers, while China launched 6 such ships.

Sohu reports that destroyers will provide support for aircraft carriers in terms of air defense. Thus, they are not a direct adversary of the American destroyers, but no one guarantees that in the future the American military command will not change the original mission of the destroyers and will not include them in aircraft carrier groups.
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  1. Killemall 18 March 2020 15: 25 New
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    the Chinese people seem to have mastered the design of projects and now tirelessly stamp everything in large series ... as the classic used to say: "You have mastered the general look, now you don’t have to skip the details."
    1. Dmitry Donskoy 18 March 2020 15: 43 New
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      Well done Chinese, and the one who does nothing is not mistaken. They will also find application. soldier
    2. TermNachTer 18 March 2020 18: 31 New
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      Well, our narrow-film friends got a little excited. Their pr. 055 corresponds to Arly Bjerk, well, to the edges of Ticonderoga. However, he is still far away from Zamvolt. And by the way, as a former sailor I say - excessive stability, the same is not good. Everything should be in moderation.
      1. syndicalist 19 March 2020 08: 38 New
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        And what is the problem of excessive stability?
        1. TermNachTer 19 March 2020 19: 07 New
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          The pitching is very sharp, unpleasant for humans and not very convenient for using weapons.
    3. wisealtair 19 March 2020 01: 40 New
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      Looks not from scratch the Americans pressed for spying Huyawei.
  2. Thrifty 18 March 2020 15: 37 New
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    The Yankees are smarter than the Chinese, they realized that their grotesque is a "deadly monster", and decided not to do more than three of them! And, the Chinese did not teach history, and they do not know that gigantomania is not good, because it is too expensive, difficult to operate and maintain. When, there will be a couple of their under-cruisers for prevention, and there will be a new pandemic in the world, then the Chinese themselves will suck all these ships, "forever."
    1. Andrey.AN 18 March 2020 16: 04 New
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      The Chinese have all the main infrastructure concentrated off the coast, there are no other options to protect the country from major military threats, they are cooler from the sea than from land. Japan always took them by the fleet.
      1. rich 18 March 2020 16: 32 New
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        At the Dalian Shipbuilding Industry Company, construction began on the sixth Project 055 missile destroyer for the Chinese Navy. This is reported by local media with reference to satellite photos. It is assumed that the destroyers of project 055 will surpass the most modern at the moment in the Chinese Navy destroyers of project 052D. If the predecessors had a hull length of 160 meters and a displacement of 7,5 thousand tons, then new ships reach a length of 183 meters and, according to various sources, will receive a displacement of 10 to 12 thousand tons. Equipped with four QC280 gas turbines, type 055 destroyers must reach speeds of up to 35 knots. The ships are armed with anti-aircraft missiles HQ-9A and HQ-16 long and medium range and promising missiles HQ-26 (analogue of the American SM-3). It is also planned to install two short-range air defense systems FL-3000N. In addition, on board will place from two to four 30-mm anti-aircraft artillery systems of short range Type 1130, which provide 10 thousand rounds per minute. To combat ships designed missiles YJ-18 (an analogue of the Russian "Caliber"). The main gun mount is a fully automatic 38 mm H / PJ-130. On board will be able to base two large anti-submarine helicopters. According to the plans of the Chinese Navy, the fleet should receive up to 16 destroyers of project 055. They are going to use them as part of strike aircraft carrier groups.
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        1. Andrey.AN 18 March 2020 16: 39 New
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          They are going to do it for now. But this armament is only in perspective, it is also unclear why the hell they need it, here they will sink old rockets utilizing the entire Japanese fleet without leaving the harbor if they wish, against whom are they planning to use it? The likely answer is to apply as an American mongrel, for the protection of the coastal zone of Japan the characteristics are unnecessary, just ballast.
        2. Andrey.AN 18 March 2020 16: 54 New
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          Look, they still don’t have such weapons, nor their own policies. Do you think that a Japanese boat with a cool battery underwater will be aimed at anyone, it will allow it to overcome obstacles, then in a combat mission it is a suicide bomber, simply because the Russian Federation is large and takes a long time to go to its borders. It’s just that we know that it’s an attack weapon of our good, for the rest it’s superfluous (and they consider the money there), we will relate to this fall accordingly.
        3. Insurgent 19 March 2020 00: 47 New
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          Quote: Rich
          Dalian Shipbuilding Industry Company

          And it could be Russian Far ... This is so, by the way.
    2. mole 18 March 2020 17: 02 New
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      The Yankees are smarter. But the Chinese take in quantity, while more than engaging production facilities. And their quantity over time develops into quality.
      1. Sergey39 18 March 2020 17: 15 New
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        Quote: Mole
        And their quantity over time develops into quality.

        For some reason, this did not happen among the Americans.
      2. Arthur 85 18 March 2020 20: 21 New
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        The Yankees didn’t have too much time to smoke the sky ...
        1. Greenwood 20 March 2020 08: 35 New
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          So they say since the time of Khrushchev.
  3. Mik1701 18 March 2020 15: 37 New
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    Made in China - today these are high-tech and popular products around the world. And the fact that there are almost copies of existing developments (in many cases improved), so do not substitute ...
    1. smile 18 March 2020 15: 49 New
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      You are right about the goods ..... it seems ..... but I personally don’t know why, by creating the destroyers like Arly Burke that we don’t build, the above-mentioned “strongest ships on the planet”, the Chinese could not create the normal weapon.
      Their new machines - according to the bullpup system, licked from the Finnish version of such a remake of Kalash, have such a CWO that can be compared with the latest "modifications" of Iraqi home-made products, or the best achievements of the velites of Ancient Rome.
      At the same time, parts from automatic machines are non-interchangeable. This is not a joke - this is a clear diagnosis.
      take an interest:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DosKIQswcrk&list=PLR56r6pplJ8mf-RdWcUeovshEstFjongP

      In general, personally in my head these facts do not fit at all.
      1. tihonmarine 18 March 2020 16: 11 New
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        Quote: smile
        Their new machines - according to the bullpup system, licked from the Finnish version of such a remake of Kalash

        So better AK-47 they got nothing more.
      2. Mik1701 18 March 2020 16: 19 New
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        The fact of the matter is that you can not substitute for copying. All efforts to create a product are leveled. Time, money, everything flies into the pipe. In Chinese ...
  4. Clone 18 March 2020 15: 46 New
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    It remains only to envy the Chinese. Solid power, understandable state ideology, a real fight against corruption and ... destroyers on the stream.
  5. knn54 18 March 2020 15: 47 New
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    The Chinese immediately found the optimal use of destroyers of this class.
    A pair of each AUG is enough.
  6. Lord of the Sith 18 March 2020 15: 48 New
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    Sohu: China launched a worthy competitor to the US destroyers Zumwalt


    It is a dubious undertaking to monkey up, and copy an iron, in which everything is not glory to God.
    1. poquello 18 March 2020 19: 30 New
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      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Sohu: China launched a worthy competitor to the US destroyers Zumwalt


      It is a dubious undertaking to monkey up, and copy an iron, in which everything is not glory to God.

      IMHO the experience of the victory of the Chinese over the United States in Korea is characterized by the abundant presence of comrades in caps and quilted jackets for each bump, this affects
      1. Lord of the Sith 18 March 2020 19: 58 New
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        Hmm, I don’t understand how the events in Korea in the 50s relate to Zamwolt?
        1. poquello 19 March 2020 18: 11 New
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          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Hmm, I don’t understand how the events in Korea in the 50s relate to Zamwolt?

          not to the iron, to the desire of the Chinese to stamp everything, and more, more
  7. dzvero 18 March 2020 15: 48 New
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    Something is wrong here - 055 does not look like Zamvolta. Not overpowered iron-like contours or for the first time afraid to violate the patent for corners?
    1. Killemall 18 March 2020 16: 04 New
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      Not overpowered iron-like contours or for the first time afraid to violate the patent for corners?

      regarding patent infringement, there are no fearless people than the Chinese .... and inaccurate angles ... perhaps, as always - squint ... smile
    2. tihonmarine 18 March 2020 16: 09 New
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      Quote: dzvero
      Something is wrong here - 055 does not look like Zamvolta. Not overpowered iron-like contours or for the first time afraid to violate the patent for corners?

      Or maybe they have grown wiser, and did not step on the rake of the United States.
      1. dzvero 18 March 2020 16: 40 New
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        It is interesting whether the contours of the Zwolvt hull give advantages in seaworthiness or are they completely subordinate to "stealth"? About the balsa add-on on the second and third is understandable, and the shape of the hull too ... but he is still supposed to walk along the okey-seas, and not along the ponds and, if possible, stay on the surface.
        1. voyaka uh 18 March 2020 17: 14 New
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          Give and very much. This winter, Zumvolt walked off the coast of Alaska.
          He was specially tested in a seaworthy storm. And it turned out that his
          shakes less, it does not fall between the waves.
          In battle, this means that he will remain combat-ready when ships of the 1st class
          the enemy will be paralyzed by the storm.
          1. Crimean partisan 1974 18 March 2020 20: 53 New
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            And it turned out that his
            shakes less, it doesn’t fall between the waves ....... winter is warm, and it’s drowned, it’s hardly anyone dared to shoot down the deck deck. or maybe there wasn’t even anything at all along the Alaskan Coast, so they rummaged around the Hawaiians, what’s there to hand to Alaska
        2. tihonmarine 18 March 2020 17: 36 New
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          Quote: dzvero
          that he should walk along the okey-seas, and not along the ponds and, if possible, stay on the surface.

          Not that they pushed him into it, and how "invisible" it is, but it is somehow awkward, well, it does not lie on it, it does not have marine aesthetics.
  8. Calm 18 March 2020 16: 03 New
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    Soon in the media we will be continually showing what is happening in other countries, what they built, what happened, breakthroughs in space, etc., etc. Of course, you can twist the Crimean bridge for another 5 years to nausea if such bridges went to the point, the very same China plots a couple of pieces annually.
    1. NordUral 18 March 2020 16: 40 New
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      Yes, I watched the videos, how they build bridges and roads, it inspires ... It reminds us of our already distant past in a big way.
      1. smile 18 March 2020 19: 07 New
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        Hello.
        Sorry, but I want to remind you that in Russia there are more major bridges built than in the entire history of Russia, the Russian Empire and the USSR.
        If memory serves - under Putin - 32, and under the USSR and kings - 22.
        Such is easily verified statistics.
        And yes, longer bridges were built in China.
        But such complex bridges in the engineering plan (geology, relief., Etc.) in China have not been built.
        And nowhere else.
        By anyone.
        General.
        So it goes.
        I’m wondering, will you swear at me now?
        I warn you in advance - I do not want to offend you, but you should objectively assess the situation in the country.
        I think that would be reasonable. Or do you think that objectivity is a bad taste, and you should definitely exaggerate, publish false conclusions and think about polymers?
        Sorry again.
        1. dauria 19 March 2020 00: 16 New
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          If memory serves - under Putin - 32, and under the USSR and kings - 22.
          Such is easily verified statistics.


          Indeed, a reason to think. And it’s not building factories, but bridges. We built over the Oka. To four tsarist and Soviet. Well done. The factories are withering away, some are built up with skyscrapers. Figs with them, what's there.
          So what attracts him so much to bridges? Maybe the price and speed of getting a bail from the treasury for friends? Simple, fast and spectacular - here it is a bridge. And let the aircraft factory stand without orders, and the machine-building plant - demolish nafig under Lukoil’s warehouses.

          "He built the dam only because it called the stream a river.
          “Why did he need this?” I asked.
          “Do you know how much crazy money you can get out of a dam?”
          Henry Kuttner, Catherine L. Moore. Cauldron with troubles
          1. Golovan Jack 19 March 2020 00: 40 New
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            Quote: dauria
            Simple, fast and spectacular - here it is a bridge. And let the aircraft factory stand without orders ...

            Funny logic. Well, well - well, this bridge, why is it needed, in general ... but is it really not needed, by the way? Well, they scored on the bridge ... and what - from this, orders at the aircraft plant suddenly appear? belay

            I don’t catch up, probably ...
            1. dauria 19 March 2020 01: 14 New
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              Well, they scored on the bridge ... and what - from this, orders at the aircraft plant suddenly appear?


              I don’t know .. But without this bridge, the MiG plant riveted. 17 pieces per month. Those that are now with the "Daggers." And the machine tool factory did milling machines. Instead of which we are now purchasing the "Germans".
              We need a bridge, now we are having fun riding from sleeping areas to shopping centers, universities and prosecutors.
              And we trade each other Chinese junk and Italian junk.
              I don’t understand one thing - what shisha does our city now live on? Is there really enough of these miserable remnants of Soviet factories to feed the same horde of people? Do you think the factories have changed, become new? Fig, all the same equipment in the best case of the late 80's. True with computers and renovation in offices. And a nursing home in the workshops.
              1. Golovan Jack 19 March 2020 01: 34 New
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                Quote: dauria
                But without this bridge, the plant riveted MiGs. 17 pieces per month

                The bridge has nothing to do with it, agree. And 17 MiG-31s ​​per year - for the Russian Federation is clearly too much ...

                Quote: dauria
                And the machine tool factory did milling machines. Instead of which we are now purchasing the "Germans"

                With all due respect, the "Germans" are now better at a price / quality ratio. Why are there "Germans", and "Chinese" - are also better. And now it makes no sense to produce "at the warehouse". However, there wasn’t any in the USSR either, but they did the same ... I’m not talking about machines right now, yes.

                Quote: dauria
                I don’t understand one thing - what shisha does our city now live on?

                The city lives on taxes received in the city budget. Everyone pays taxes, and even shopping centers. As for the industry - I can give a link, judging by the Internet, you have a lot of things there that are quite alive.

                Quote: dauria
                Do you think the plants have changed, become new? Figs, all the same equipment in the best case of the late 80s. True with computers and renovation in offices. And the retirement home in the workshops

                I understand ... but it's still more emotion than some constructive request

                Total: Bridge, KVM, you offended in vain. As for the aircraft factory - you, of course, know better on the spot, but they write a lot about the MiG-35. There will be a plane - there will be orders ...
          2. smile 19 March 2020 00: 50 New
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            Well, here I am with you, sorry, I disagree .....
            No plants will be effective unless there is adequate infrastructure.
            Infrastructure that allows the most efficient supply of supplies and, accordingly, export-import components, raw materials, and implement the production .....
            What are the questions? The fact that the signaled bridge enlivens the message and, God forgive me for the obscene word - business? :))))
            But it is so. And, although I do not like this obscene word - but the factories were weakening because either the cooperation had collapsed or the logistics systems had been broken along with the cooperation - and so - the logistics were reviving .... to a new level ... what's so bad?
            I guess. you understand that, in terms of modern terms, without effective logistics, the Army will not be able to fight ... no way ... so what's the question?
            Was everything better before?
            Maybe so ... But this is being recreated now quite specific, maybe not by the very best people ... but is being recreated?
            And yes - the question is - if there was no bridge before - this was the achievement of the Soviet or tsarist authorities - it helped the factories a lot, and now that the bloody totalitarian Putin has built the bridge, does it hinder the industrial development of Russia?
            Hello, garage ... have a conscience ... please.
            I’m wondering, you’ll be indignant now about that. how vicious Putin ruined the life of factories. building a brazen bridge ... or not ... :)))
            Bye. :)))
            1. dauria 19 March 2020 01: 32 New
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              I’m wondering, you’ll be indignant now about that. how vicious Putin ruined the life of factories. building a brazen bridge ... or not ...


              Okay, then simpler. Putin took money from the treasury and built a bridge.
              Wonderful. Handsomely. To everyone's joy. True, the money spent.
              Instead of the saw with the ax, the carpenter bought a tie with a shirt.
              Beautiful, you need it, everyone is happy. Only the money has been spent and there is nothing to earn it. So understandable?
              However, what am I talking about. Well, we got off the "oil needle .." We now have a bridge, he will feed us.
              1. Golovan Jack 19 March 2020 02: 04 New
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                Quote: dauria
                Putin took money from the treasury and built a bridge

                As far as I was able to understand, the construction was financed from the regional budget.

                Quote: dauria
                True, the money has been spent

                The money worked out and returned to the economy.

                Quote: dauria
                Instead of the saw with the ax, the carpenter bought a tie with a shirt

                The carpenter had, excuse me, constipation (traffic jam in front of the bridge). After the commissioning of the new bridge, the constipation disappeared.

                Quote: dauria
                Only money spent and there is nothing to earn them

                Well, why?

                Quote: Golovan Jack
                The city lives on taxes received in the city budget


                Quote: dauria
                However, what am I talking about. We got off the "oil needle .." We now have a bridge, he will feed us

                It again

                Quote: Golovan Jack
                more emotion than some construct

                request
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                dauria
                Hello again. :)))
                If you want to speak your language, then let's speak your ... Pozhlst .... :))))
                Go.... :)))
                1. Putin didn’t take money from anywhere - such a statement is a direct reference to Ukrainian degradants or liberal swindlers. thieves and degenerates ... this is a direct lie .... congratulations ... :))))
                2. Putin (for example, since he is building a bridge) needs a revival of infrastructure (assumption. Mine. But I’m sure of it) - I received a corresponding report - shoved the knees of my subordinates under the ass - and here's an analytical note for you to revive, reduce the cost, and increase efficiency. ..etc. etc ... you need to build a bridge (quite rightly) somewhere ....
                I thought for myself - I realized that part of the analytics - assumptions - part - is a lie (not just one source), but in general, the bridge is really needed .... and not only as a bridge, but also as a revitalization of the local construction industry, etc. .d. ...
                accordingly - regarding this region - I gave orders to subordinates - to develop a strategy for solving the problem, methods and methods for solving it + an estimate and a conclusion by builders .... yeah, then Putin is appointed the person responsible for this business - and that’s all, Putin forgot about it - he has others full of affairs ... dohrenischschschschschshe ....
                And then tenders and the rest of the farmer are appointed by the responsible persons ... What matters to Putin in this situation? - so that the decision is implemented - the bridge is built .... everything .... If it is not built, it learns from the next analytical report - and. having endured time for the mistake of the performer - phnette of the assistant - they say - well, and? And ask. On business. You do not think. that if he is not a supporter of public flogging of his subordinates, he will not tear them. Deret, and how ... and I like it. that he doesn’t arrange a circus from this, like Medved, and does not assert himself at the expense of it ....... and so on
                This is a very inertial system .... like everywhere on the Planet in such large-scale projects
                Excuse me. but your statements about "took the money" look like baby talk .... with a trillion allocated last year, but unused by those who were allocated budget money - it doesn’t roll ....
                Where in all this is Putin personally taking the money to the bridge. so that the aircraft factory doesn’t get it - a riddle for me ... and for you? :)))) In general, the government seems to be engaged in all of this, and not Putin. :))))))

                Of course, all of the above - my insinuations - but they are at least plausible, in my opinion .... :)))))

                And sorry. your argument is not just childish, but, damn it, it looks like fitting facts to your desired conclusions.
                I didn’t mean to offend you, but you yourself suggested switching to your language ... well, it turned out the way it turned out ... sorry. So it goes. :)))
                1. dauria 19 March 2020 03: 49 New
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                  so that the decision is implemented - the bridge is built .... everything ...


                  What exactly is not clear? A simple question - why does our business like to build bridges, rather than factories? Here in Italy they build airplanes, cars for our businessmen, yachts and even clothes.
                  But their bridge fell, the state did not have money for its repair and reconstruction. They called the bell themselves - "oh, a bunch of bridges were built."
                  Why not built factories? Unprofitable for entrepreneurs?
                  And the answer is simple. The bridge belongs to the state. The customer is the treasury. Blind, rich, drunk client. And give the money right away. And the plant will belong to Vasya (Akhmet, Abram) who invested the money and will not pay off right away. If it pays off. Yes, and Vasya is not a miss. Take risks in Russia with your money for decades - look for a fool.

                  I don’t need a bridge from Putin, but work, pension, police and army. And so that money in the nest egg does not depreciate due to the price of a barrel of oil.
                  I undertook to build capitalism - this is a normal system. And do not gobble up the corpse of a dead cow. Then to buzz and fly away when everything is swallowed.
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                    Sir. you state:
                    1.Business LOVES building bridges, not factories ...
                    2. "Here in Italy they build planes, cars for our businessmen, yachts and even clothes."
                    3. "But their bridge fell, the state did not have the money to repair and reconstruct it. They themselves called" Ah, a lot of bridges were built. ""
                    4. "Why are not factories built? Unprofitable for entrepreneurs?
                    And the answer is simple. The bridge belongs to the state. The customer is the treasury. Blind, rich, drunk client. And give the money right away. And the plant will belong to Vasya (Akhmet, Abram) who invested the money and will not pay off right away. If it pays off. Yes, and Vasya is not a miss. Risk in Russia with your money for decades - look for a fool. "
                    5. "I don’t need a bridge from Putin, but work, pension, police and the army. And so that the money in the nest egg does not depreciate because of the price of a barrel of oil."

                    I'm ofigel. Well, we speak your language. On points So:
                    1. Your first point - stupidity - I do not know. from stupidity whether or pretend - the stated fact - a lie. Straight. Bridges to build. all the more complicated technologically - not every large company will undertake. understand all the more. what is fraught with failure to fulfill obligations - you have no ear to it. not a snout. because it’s so easy to write nonsense. Hi first time. :))) you need to understand .. what are you talking about. :)))
                    2. Aphids will be all that you have listed here and are being built ... you sho. If you want a wide one, I’ll tell you about a Kaliningrad company that sharpens shafts and propellers for Italian yachts. in which only names and wood are from Italian? Engines. by the way, German ....
                    By the way, why did you write this point of nonsense, can you answer? To me. it’s quite difficult to listen to you without laughing as a person who has three-quarters of relatives in Europe ... And it doesn’t matter how many pluses you have - aphids - you now understand my skepticism - you fantasize about Europe - and I go there I’m driving my mom ... oh, sorry. I don’t go ... weeks and a half ... but to you. enlightener such - everything is clear? Or no? :))))
                    3. About the fallen bridge - sir, and yet. judging by lies - you really are from Ukraine - they are so SO foolish most often ... - believe me, I know - I have a lot of relatives in Fastov and Lubensky district of the Poltava region - through my grandfather .....
                    4. There’s nothing to even comment on - the stupidities of modern Ukrainian propaganda that investing in Russia is nowhere, except if you are not Ahmed ... Tolya, sir, you really think I’m getting on this. Are you really degenerate, or is your job like this? :)))) Funny, any citizen of the Russian Federation, if he is faced with a situation, understands that you are lying. Question - Why and for what purpose? Answer me? :))))))) and:???
                    5. At this point, you are lying - you do not need anything from Putin, except that he is gone - all the rest is populism - you’re bullshit, as they say in your language. all the more so since you have clearly shown yourself as a resident of a dead woman ... or you are such a broken liberalist that you use the vocabulary of finished skakuases .... by the way - who are you. Gulchatay! Show your face :)))))
        2. syndicalist 19 March 2020 09: 02 New
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          Only the Transsib crosses 16 large rivers and more than a hundred small and medium. It was built in just 25 years with an incomparable technical level of Tsarist Russia.
        3. NordUral 19 March 2020 10: 04 New
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          I will answer by reference, Vladimir.
          https://cont.ws/@anaxoret/1348399
  9. Avior 18 March 2020 16: 04 New
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    Rather than Zamvolt, but Tikanderog
  10. rudolff 18 March 2020 16: 04 New
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    The cannon was obviously pulled by the ears. The Chinese have quite a traditional design. The only thing is very large. Displacement up to 13 thousand tons, more likely a cruiser than a destroyer. A sort of Chinese analogue of our Atlanteans in a modern manner.
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      Displacement up to 13 thousand tons, more likely a cruiser than a destroyer.

      displacement ... so imagine how many rowers you need ... to move such a colossus ...
      it’s not a destroyer or a cruiser, but a galley built using low visibility technology ...
      the Chinese, as always, were ahead of everyone ...
  11. tihonmarine 18 March 2020 16: 07 New
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    China is already sitting on the heels of the states. 25 years ago, I could not think that the Chinese would ever become "owners of the seas. When, half a century ago, peasants smelted pig iron in their plots and did not know what radio was.
  12. Zaurbek 18 March 2020 16: 16 New
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    Maybe an analog of ArlyBerk?
  13. Mavrikiy 18 March 2020 16: 28 New
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    Zumwalt - the modern type of destroyers of the U.S. Navy
    Rather futuristic-archaic. Yes, such ships were not built in the Stone Age, but the first wagons were just as ugly.
    its stealth provided by the use of stealth technologies in the design of the destroyer. This factor allows you to operate the ship in a storm at sea,
    A traditional question for amers or journalists: What do they drink? how stealth or stealth technology in the design of the destroyeraffects storm resistance? Zumwalt's stability is a myth. WIKI:
    makes Zumvolt dangerous for the crew due to reduced stability and with a strong roll-side, the vessel may roll over [19] [20]. Therefore, the uninterrupted operation of the ship’s propulsion system for the “dynamic stability of the ship” due to movement is critical, since a stationary vessel can be unstable when the engine breaks down [21]. In response to this criticism, the ship’s designers created a smaller copy of the Zumvolt with an electric motor and demonstrated this model to US Navy customers proving that the ship was stable [
    1. voyaka uh 18 March 2020 17: 17 New
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      "demonstrated this model to customers of the US Navy proving that the ship is stable [" ///
      ----
      You at least read OWN quotes to the end. laughing
      1. Mavrikiy 19 March 2020 08: 48 New
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        You at least read OWN quotes to the end.

        And you turn on the logic. fool They made a model with an electric motor, cheated and ..... Because it is impossible to prove by formula-calculation, it is checked.
    2. Avior 18 March 2020 17: 40 New
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      Seaworthiness of this type of hull has long been tested.

      He is OK
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        Quote: Avior
        He is OK
        Do not be silly. request The sides of the destroyer are overwhelmed, the yacht collapse. Do you understand the difference? This is not about the form of cutting. And the yacht is not a BC, for her a fresh design is an expansion of the market. Yes, and the use of water gives relief.
        1. Avior 19 March 2020 10: 03 New
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          The same iron nose, the same back-flanked sides, only in the bow part the blockage is partially different
          And the market has nothing to do with it; it was made to order, and not mass-produced and sold.
          Yes, and what's the difference, for what reason they did, the fact that it’s checked the type of case
          Everything is fine.
          And what is wrong with the waters of this ocean yacht?
          Do you know her displacement?
          1. Mavrikiy 19 March 2020 10: 54 New
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            Quote: Avior
            Reverse heaped sides, only in the bow part the blockage partially differs

            Take a large photo and look carefully. Nose iron is a design if there is no bulb in the depths, but to whom is it me.

            And what is wrong with the waters of this ocean yacht?
            Do you know her displacement?

            6-8000 tons and? .... Yachts for a comfortable stay. 14 passengers.
            Not a single senator will “storm in the distant sea” on it. And BC should be able to.
            1. Avior 19 March 2020 13: 25 New
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              Looked carefully
              Everything as I wrote
              Moreover, Zamvolt’s seaworthiness was checked on the model

              Seaworthiness was perfectly confirmed
              Like an ocean yacht
              And at your leisure, read what this means ....
              However, to whom I am writing ...
              If there is real evidence of Zamvolta's poor seaworthiness, go to the studio, if not
              hi
  14. -ш- 18 March 2020 16: 28 New
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    iron fashion
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    Quote: Zaurbek
    Maybe an analog of ArlyBerk?


    I agree, only enlarged ......
  16. NordUral 18 March 2020 16: 37 New
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    Interestingly, the United States still had enough funds to put into operation only 3 destroyers, while China launched 6 such ships.
    Well, let the phalluses measure, but we need to quietly and systematically fill in the gaps in the armaments.
  17. Tank jacket 18 March 2020 17: 26 New
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    The beauty of the Chinese destroyer is that there will be Chinese default chips laughing And they will work, unlike those Chinese microcircuits that they put on Zumvolt ... wassat
  18. Old26 18 March 2020 18: 23 New
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    Interestingly, the United States still had enough funds to put into operation only 3 destroyers, while China launched 6 such ships.

    Too far-fetched argument. Nevertheless, the EM 055 project should not be compared with Zumwalt. The first one is nevertheless a ship of "classical forms", the second one is completely new, incl. and the shape of the ship. There is too much new in it so that it would immediately be brought to "mind." This is the case when they say that "the first pancake is lumpy." Perhaps the next series of EMs built after Zumwalt and based on his experience will be more successful

    Sohu reports that destroyers will provide support for aircraft carriers in terms of air defense. Thus, they are not a direct adversary of the American destroyers, but no one guarantees that in the future the American military command will not change the original mission of the destroyers and will not include them in aircraft carrier groups.

    Not quite understood by the author. And what, now there are no destroyers in the composition of the American AUG ???

    Quote: Thrifty
    The Yankees are smarter than the Chinese, they realized that their grotesque is a "deadly monster", and decided not to do more than three of them! And, the Chinese did not teach history, and they do not know that gigantomania is not good, because it is too expensive, difficult to operate and maintain. When, there will be a couple of their under-cruisers for prevention, and there will be a new pandemic in the world, then the Chinese themselves will suck all these ships, "forever."

    The ship turned out to be not very successful and did not justify the hopes that were fully entrusted to it. Time will pass and perhaps the next major series of EMs, which will replace Arly Berkov, will also be based on Zumwalt

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    Something is wrong here - 055 does not look like Zamvolta. Not overpowered iron-like contours or for the first time afraid to violate the patent for corners?

    It is possible that they did not master it. Or maybe they were just afraid to make a ship so revolutionary in contours.

    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: dzvero
    Something is wrong here - 055 does not look like Zamvolta. Not overpowered iron-like contours or for the first time afraid to violate the patent for corners?

    Or maybe they have grown wiser, and did not step on the rake of the United States.

    Rake it or not - time will tell. Our developers also tested including and such cases, but they did not go. I don’t know the reason. It's like with the same "stealth". Until you do it, until you get the bumps, you won’t succeed in doing anything new and revolutionary.

    Quote: rudolff
    The cannon was obviously pulled by the ears. The Chinese have quite a traditional design. The only thing is very large. Displacement up to 13 thousand tons, more likely a cruiser than a destroyer. A sort of Chinese analogue of our Atlanteans in a modern manner.

    Rudolf. But increasing displacement is a trend that you can’t get away from. It is growing for everyone. Take the USA. From 4,05 thousand tons of the full at Sherman to 9,6 thousand at Arly and up to 12 at Zumvolt. The same is with us. From 3,1 thousand for 30 bis, to 7,9 for the 956th. And the "Leader" EMNIP should also have 12-15 thousand tons
    1. DED_peer_DED 20 March 2020 19: 28 New
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      Our developers also tested including and such cases, but they did not go. I don’t know the reason. It's like with the same "stealth".


      First of all, decks as such are not. Accordingly, there is no place for sailors to run on business, to go to the North (how to break the ice from the “return sides"? He himself will not slip from there.). In a storm, waves with salt water will flood at the most ... "stealth" will rest at that time ... as well as with ice freezing, which has nowhere to go from such sides, from the superstructure ..
      And this is only the first thing that comes ...
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    Doubtful compliment - Zyama is unarmed. Missile and artillery firing has never been conducted. So if the "competitor" in this - well, well
  20. jann 18 March 2020 20: 50 New
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    Well done, the Chinese, and how they chewed on their snot and continue to chew under the cover of a fig leaf: oh, no one wants to have business with us ... international agreements ... The Chinese just do it and they don't give a shit !!! The right of the strong !!!
  21. Crimean partisan 1974 18 March 2020 20: 56 New
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    Th rot it is not clear, where does the iron die and the Chinese copy 055 Arly Burke ????? what does the ancient copy
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    Uh ... But nothing that shows ships of different approaches in the photo. Amers - stealth, China - not stealth.
    And about their performance characteristics - not a word, they just said that China has more air defense, and the Amers have more assault ...

    Hats already cook throw?
  23. FomaKinyaev 18 March 2020 23: 00 New
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    Does such an angular shape really make such a target less noticeable to radars? I don’t understand, because with such areas of planes the reflection from the surface should be more pronounced? Or vice versa, the more complex the geometry of an object, the easier it is to detect? Experts explain ...
    1. Uncle lee 19 March 2020 03: 56 New
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      [Center][/ centerThis thing is called "Corner Reflector"
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      I don’t understand, because with such areas of planes the reflection from the surface should be more pronounced?

      it’s not the area (although it also matters), but the direction in which the wave is reflected. The task is to select the reflection angles so that the reflection of the echo wave is minimally in the direction of the sending locator. Therefore, the stele objects have such strange shapes. In addition, the degree of scattering and absorption of planes by the material itself significantly affects the strength of the reflected signal. That is, a signal is reflected, partially absorbed by the material of the planes themselves.
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    since the sea storm is still a serious obstacle to the use of even modern warships. Zumwalt shows high stability than many other destroyers and cruisers of the American Navy cannot boast of.

    Ilya, tests of Zumwalt emnip were carried out only for longitudinal stability, by the deferent, but not by the roll. And then he passed the test only when simulating excitement no more than 4 points. That is, the conditions of the coastal zone, a purely literal ship, were imitated. Like a ship in the far sea zone it was not tested
  25. ficus2003 19 March 2020 11: 52 New
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    Smeared non-news for as many as 9 paragraphs, bravo!
  26. d4rkmesa 19 March 2020 14: 43 New
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    It’s rather a Chinese Tika, nothing to do with Z .. The same two massive “cellars” in the UVP ala Mk 41, which divide the ship into 3 parts. The Americans at some point thought it was bad, and distributed the UVP along the sides in Z., increasing the reservation and the size of the "cans" for the missiles, we got a sort of "fence." At the same time, there are fewer missiles, but some missiles can be packed denser if desired. In general, the Chinese ship is from the 80s, in a slightly updated form.
  27. IL-64 20 March 2020 08: 42 New
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    Is someone in VO sitting on Sohu money? A year ago there wasn’t a word about this agency, and now they quote almost every day
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    Campaign, the Chinese did not come up with a carbon copy. And so, China has drawn into an arms race. The United States will continue to crush.
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    "... a worthy competitor to the Zumwalt US destroyers."
    Will it be so miserable?