China entered the oil war on the side of Russia's opponents

China entered the oil war on the side of Russia's opponents

In the unfolding confrontation over energy markets, weapons in which dumping and attempts to oust competitors from any niche that can only be occupied, where the main opponents are Russia, the USA and OPEC countries, are an episode, to put it mildly, not too pleasant for our country. Apparently, one of the world's largest oil consumers, China, obviously did not accept the Russian side, refusing a number of deliveries of our “black gold”.


As it became known, the Chinese state oil company Sinochem Corp., which is one of the largest importers of energy resources there, categorically rejected the ability to accept any goods that are somehow related to the Russian company Rosneft, for which some sanctions should come into force in May USA. Recall, February 18, Washington included the Swiss trading structure of Rosneft, Rosneft Trading SA, as well as TNK Trading International (TTI) in the sanctions list (SDN List) for operations in Venezuela. At the same time, the Americans announced to companies that the deadline for minimizing operations is May 20.

The position of the Chinese side became known from the tender documentation of Sinochem, from which all goods that could have something to do with any Rosneft structures were excluded. In the Celestial Empire, they decided in this way to hedge not even 100%, but all 300%, on the basis of fears that by the time the contracted oil shipments arrive in China and settle for them, the sanctions list could be expanded further. Then the danger of falling under US restrictions will actually exist for Chinese oil traders.

I must say that such a policy, very far-sighted, but completely unfriendly towards Russia, met with an ambiguous attitude in China itself. They understand perfectly well that in this case there is not just a far-fetched and politically motivated decision, but an episode of the very same “trade war” waged without any rules, which the United States carries out without any pity regarding Beijing. As far as we know, they “very regret” the current situation, but at the same time note that they “cannot help Moscow”, fearing sanctions for their own economy, which was already affected by the coronavirus epidemic.

In truth, it’s hard to believe in the sincerity of these feelings. Not so long ago, RAO Gazprom started talking about a possible shutdown of the Power of Siberia gas pipeline. It was supposedly planned preventive work, but a number of sources indicate that a decrease in the Middle Kingdom imports of Russian “blue fuel” may be the true reason. The fall in production during the distribution of COVID-19 in the country, of course, reduced China’s energy needs, but it is alarming that the commitment to sharply increase purchases of American LNG written in a trade agreement with the United States seems to be strictly observed - to the detriment of our gas supplies .

The position taken by China regarding Rosneft is a very alarming signal. This country is the largest buyer of Russian oil: last year, 47% of oil export via pipelines (40 of 84 million tons) and more than a third of deliveries through ports went there.

Russia's loss of the Celestial market will be more than a painful blow for the domestic oil industry. Alas, the Chinese comrades are once again demonstrating that it would be frivolous and dangerous to consider them as Russia's “allies”. As before, Beijing continues to act, pursuing exclusively its own interests and not particularly reckoning with the global interests of that country, which it seems to position as friendly ...
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  1. Qwertyarion 18 March 2020 14: 11 New
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    . categorically rejected the possibility of accepting any cargo in one way or another connected with the Russian company Rosneft, in respect of some units of which US sanctions should come into force in May.

    If the sale of oil under sanctions fails, it will be very bad for the budget .... and the budget is salaries and pensions
    . China, apparently, didn’t take the Russian side,

    Nothing personal just business.
    1. St Petrov 18 March 2020 14: 15 New
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      If, in addition to Iran and Venezuela, they close Russia, then this will destroy the entire market.
      The control will be a multiple less. How to cut the 3 largest suppliers from the market?
      1. Qwertyarion 18 March 2020 14: 17 New
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        Yes .., this is all very serious.
        . How to cut the 3 largest suppliers from the market?

        So you can and "partners" are working on this.
        1. Nasrat 18 March 2020 14: 24 New
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          I don’t see our comrades admiring China ... wassat

          A deal with the United States - nothing personal ... Visually - the Chinese Communist International ... bully
          1. Svarog 18 March 2020 14: 31 New
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            Quote: Nasr
            I do not see our comrades admiring China ...

            Indeed, comrades have disappeared ... they are interpreting the setup .. But meanwhile, people here are sensible, to whom I consider opponents of today's power and its policies, both external and internal .. did not get tired of saying that China is more an enemy than a friend and very dangerous "partner"
            1. Nasrat 18 March 2020 14: 38 New
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              Quote: Svarog
              ... that China is more our enemy than friend and a very dangerous "partner"


              China wanted to spit on us, especially as an enemy ... it's ridiculous! China is bought and sold for money, more precisely for big money .. Western countries constantly buy and resell it when for technology, when for money, when for opium, and when and for green paper obligations .. well, the one who pays has the right demand the appropriate behavior of China in this complex world ... and they demand and receive from China what they want from it!
              1. Svarog 18 March 2020 14: 39 New
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                Quote: Nasr
                China wanted to spit on us, especially as an enemy ... it's ridiculous!

                Well, now it’s funny to you .. but in fact, China showed with whom he happened and the war happened, he will be on the same side .. and this is not at all funny ..
                1. Nasrat 18 March 2020 14: 41 New
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                  China will be on the side where the money will be! This is Chinese communism, money hungry! And someone painted the successes of China and connected these successes with the Communist Party - so answer whether there is communism or not?
                  1. Mordvin 3 18 March 2020 14: 50 New
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                    Quote: Nasr
                    China will be on the side where the money will be! This is Chinese communism, money hungry!

                    And why would he be on our side if the Americans and we are bourgeois countries? Naturally, he will respect only his interests.
                    1. Nasrat 18 March 2020 15: 21 New
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                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      ... Naturally, he will respect only his interests.

                      naturally, China will respect its interests and those of the one who “twists the arms” of China, for the same reference .. For reference, “twists the arms” of China is not Russia .. Your question is strange - why will it be on our side ???
                      1. Mordvin 3 18 March 2020 15: 30 New
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                        Quote: Nasr
                        For reference - China’s “twists hands” is not Russia ..

                        And there’s nothing for us to twist their hands. No matter how they (China) unscrew us.
                        Quote: Nasr
                        Your question is strange - why will it be on our side ???

                        What is so strange? China was friends with the USSR, we built factories for them and helped with the atom. Before the famous performance of corn genius.
                      2. Nasrat 18 March 2020 15: 37 New
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx

                        And there’s nothing for us to twist their hands.

                        You might think that the USSR had something to twist China's hands with ... It’s rather that China twisted our hands when it made a monument to Stalin ... he is there now behind the mausoleum ... if that ...
                        Then there were principles, and now money is at the forefront ... Capitalism is there, exactly the same as ours ... only the west has swollen mlr. money and the result there is striking ...
                      3. EvilLion 19 March 2020 08: 45 New
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                        Nothing that before the Corn Picker of the USSR was for China the only source of technology? And the savagery of the “Great Leap Forward” and the “Cultural Revolution” are largely the result of a break with a more civilized country, which, however, itself began to go crazy. And they respect Stalin quite rightly, because Stalin was a tight-fisted man, but honest in Russian, didn’t give anything for free, but he also took into account the interests of partners. And he did business with the Chinese in such a way that they were well and the Union. Against the backdrop of the Anglo-Saxons, who would just rob and love, for the Chinese it was very unusual.
                      4. smart ass 19 March 2020 15: 47 New
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                        The USSR, by the way, was something to twist the arms of China at one time, when China was barefoot
                    2. My doctor 18 March 2020 19: 14 New
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                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      What is so strange? China was friends with the USSR, we built factories for them and helped with the atom. Before the famous performance of corn genius.

                      Do you really think that China has quarreled over corn? In my opinion, only an occasion was needed. China has had its own interests and ambitions.
                    3. Mordvin 3 18 March 2020 19: 18 New
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                      Quote: MyVrach
                      Do you really think that China has quarreled over corn?

                      I write that China quarreled with us because of Khrushchev with its de-Stalinization, and not because of corn.
                    4. My doctor 18 March 2020 19: 26 New
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                      I understood you. And what do you think, if not for de-Stalinization, would China still be the younger brother of the USSR?
                    5. Mordvin 3 18 March 2020 19: 33 New
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                      Quote: MyVrach
                      . And what do you think, if not for de-Stalinization, would China still be the younger brother of the USSR?

                      If so, if mushrooms would grow in my mouth ... I don’t think so. In any case, the first Chinese car factory that the USSR specialists built in China (a copy of ZiL) is successfully working under state administration, producing millions of cars a year, and ZIL also successfully bent.
                    6. My doctor 18 March 2020 20: 00 New
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                      Did I understand you correctly.
                    7. EvilLion 19 March 2020 08: 49 New
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                      But KAMAZ, GAZ and a number of others did not bend. Because their products were in demand.
                    8. Mordvin 3 19 March 2020 09: 30 New
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                      Quote: EvilLion
                      Because their products were in demand.

                      I am writing about the fact that state-owned enterprises can be quite competitive, and not how they drive us about their non-viability.
                    9. CSKA 19 March 2020 12: 49 New
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                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      I am writing about the fact that state-owned enterprises can be quite competitive, and not how they drive us about their non-viability.

                      Who are you talking about? Specifically, ZIL was not viable. The end of the 00s, nothing could be done with him.
                    10. Mordvin 3 19 March 2020 12: 56 New
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                      Quote: CSKA
                      The end of the 00s, nothing could be done with him.

                      Specifically, it was necessary to save him already from the beginning of the XNUMXs. Take out for Moscow, for example, help in updating, introduce duties on foreign trucks. The same with AZLK. It was in the United States that Harley Davidson was rescued in a similar way.
                    11. ssergey1978 20 March 2020 09: 45 New
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                      Again duties, prohibit again. That is, you are not going to do a quality truck in principle? Zil and Azlk did not make a high-quality car and no one needed them and saving them is just spending money.
                    12. CSKA 20 March 2020 14: 21 New
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                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Specifically, it was necessary to save him already from the beginning of the zero

                      Why do you think so? By the beginning of the 00s, they were already making uncompetitive products; even under the USSR, the quality was poor. And what was the state supposed to do in the 00s with a private factory? To invest billions in the hope that he will finally begin to produce high-quality goods for which there will be demand? This is sheer nonsense.
                2. Dog
                  Dog 19 March 2020 21: 38 New
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                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  state-owned enterprises can be quite competitive

                  Gazprom, Sberbank, Rosneft, etc.
              2. Daoden 20 March 2020 16: 26 New
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                So I think that our enterprises have bent precisely so that they are not competitors. And the Chinese survived and developed, because there is enough of their market (how many are 2,5 billion there ??). All our large enterprises need an external market, as ours is very small. Therefore, if our cars, machine tools, and wagons are not allowed to enter foreign markets (whether with duties or other blocking sanctions), then the enterprises are also bent. And European and American manufacturers are profitable - why do they need competitors. As I understand it, our aircraft industry has bent, just because of blocking the foreign market for our aircraft, by hook or by crook (blackmail, bribery, etc.) And if there is no sales, then there is no work = reduction in production, people, etc. .d.
              3. Nosgoth 22 March 2020 15: 59 New
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                "how many are 2,5 billion there ??" Do not disgrace, at least google.
          2. Dog
            Dog 19 March 2020 21: 34 New
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            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            the car factory that the USSR specialists built in China (a copy of ZiL) is successfully working under state administration, producing millions of cars a year, and ZiL also successfully bent.

            And the Kalashnikov production, built by Soviet specialists in China, was successfully bent, while our Kalashnikov concern is the liveliest.
            From this, supposedly, should the superiority of our system of state over them? Or what?
          3. Mordvin 3 19 March 2020 21: 53 New
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            Quote: Dog
            And the Kalashnikov production, built by Soviet specialists in China, has successfully bent

            Why is it bent? About 10 years ago they released more, and even under a license, in my opinion.
            Quote: Dog
            Gazprom, Sberbank, Rosneft

            Ha! Oil and gas pumping was compared with production.
            Quote: Dog
            our concern Kalashnikov is more alive than all the living.

            Arms production will always enjoy the support of the state, no matter how unprofitable it is. This is a security issue, not a profit.
          4. Dog
            Dog 20 March 2020 06: 56 New
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            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Why is it bent?

            The person available in the video explains everything:
          5. Dog
            Dog 20 March 2020 07: 12 New
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            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Ha! Oil and gas pumping was compared with production.

            You may never have thought of it, but the most high-tech that was in ZIL was gasoline in its tank.
            Exploring, producing and delivering oil is technologically a much more difficult task than producing a car, especially if these cars are ZILs.
            At the same time, we export not only oil and gas, but also high-tech equipment for exploration and production.
          6. Mordvin 3 20 March 2020 08: 12 New
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            Quote: Dog
            At the same time, we export not only oil and gas, but also high-tech equipment for exploration and production.

            Ten times less than we buy there.
            Quote: Dog
            You may never have thought of it, but the most high-tech that was in ZIL was gasoline in its tank.

            All with you nothing to talk about.
          7. Dog
            Dog 20 March 2020 08: 27 New
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            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Ten times less than we buy there

            50/50 approximately
            But this is an export of technological equipment. And who would need ZIL? Africa free?

            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            All with you nothing to talk about.

            It is called otherwise - you have nothing more to say. Have the courage to call a spade a spade.
      2. CSKA 20 March 2020 14: 22 New
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        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Ha! Oil and gas pumping was compared with production.

        Then I will add. Rostec, Rosatom, UAC, USC.
      3. Mordvin 3 20 March 2020 14: 38 New
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        Quote: CSKA
        Rostec, Rosatom, UAC, USC.

        All these are strategically important areas that produce weapons. The same Kalashnikov belongs to Rostec.
        Quote: Dog
        50/50 approximately

        Lie.
        Quote: Dog
        you have nothing more to say. Have the courage to call a spade a spade.

        I have a lot to say, just tired of talking to people like you. I gave an example of how Harley Davidson was saved, the Americans generally banned the import of motorcycles into the United States for 5 years and allocated them financial buns. And here you are repeating Putin's tales about galoshes. There are already four hundred comments on this thread, the laptop freezes and I’m not going to write here anymore. Argue with each other. Without me.
      4. CSKA 20 March 2020 16: 37 New
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        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        All these are strategically important areas that produce weapons.

        What is Rosatom weapons doing? But Rostec only makes weapons? If you are not in the know then KamAZ is included in it, for example. Read what Schwabe is doing.
      5. Mordvin 3 20 March 2020 16: 49 New
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        Quote: CSKA
        What is Rosatom weapons doing?

        Who do you think makes nuclear warheads? "Horns and hooves" from Odessa? And the same KAMAZ army is being purchased. And don’t write to me here anymore, I'm tired of loading the page for a minute.
      6. CSKA 21 March 2020 11: 28 New
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        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Who do you think makes nuclear warheads? "Horns and hooves" from Odessa? And the same KAMAZ army is being purchased.

        Yeah. And the factory for the production of socks also belongs to the military-industrial complex, the army buys socks.
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        And don’t write to me here anymore, I'm tired of loading the page for a minute.

        To whom I consider it necessary, I will write.
    2. nerovnayadoroga 22 March 2020 13: 29 New
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      Regarding KAMAZ, this type of car was developed by ZIL and many other cars, but ZIL itself and its base were sacked to please top managers.
  2. vik669 22 March 2020 15: 18 New
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    And Rusnano 1
  3. vik669 22 March 2020 15: 22 New
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    Then I will add. Rusnano. How can you miss that!
  4. EvilLion 19 March 2020 08: 48 New
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    No, of course, the Chinese were stunned by the nonsense that Khrushchev carried about Stalin, and sent Khrushchev away. As a result, they had no choice either to continue to starve in feudalism, not being able to industrialize on their own, or to sew sneakers for the Americans. What they continue to, only took on this already caricatured form, when without each other they can no longer
  5. Pavel57 19 March 2020 08: 55 New
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    The corn genius created air defense for them, transferred the technology of missiles and a nuclear bomb.
  6. Mordvin 3 19 March 2020 09: 40 New
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    Quote: Pavel57
    The corn genius created air defense for them, transferred the technology of missiles and a nuclear bomb.

    Created and transmitted. And Mao took advantage of his stupidity.
  7. Pavel57 19 March 2020 09: 58 New
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    Well, it's definitely not Mao's fault for the stupidity of our leaders.
  • Lexus 18 March 2020 15: 45 New
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    It is only in wet dreams 0 so far "Russian with Chinese brothers forever."
    1. flicker 19 March 2020 12: 30 New
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      It is only in wet dreams 0 so far "Russian with Chinese brothers forever."

      There is no such OIL company in China.
    2. military_cat 19 March 2020 23: 17 New
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      Wikipedia says it is.
    3. flicker 19 March 2020 23: 47 New
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      Sinochem corp. this is a chemical enterprise in China, and not the leading one.
      Accordingly, everything that this author writes about Rosneft is a stuffing from the “Israeli patriot,” who for some reason is concerned about the problem of Russian-Chinese relations.
    4. military_cat 20 March 2020 00: 06 New
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      Well, through what company does Rosneft actually sell oil to China?
    5. flicker 20 March 2020 14: 08 New
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      Since 2013, a contract has been in force with CNPC (China National Oil and Gas Corporation).
      Since 2017, an agreement has been in force with CEFC (China Private Energy Company)
  • Eugene P. 20 March 2020 13: 32 New
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    Although not only Google guilty, but stupidly reluctance to find Old. I will help translate the link above.

    “As a state-owned energy company in China, Sinochem Group has laid a solid foundation in the oil sector thanks to tireless efforts over the past seven decades. Making full use of the advantages in resources, channels and operations both domestically and abroad, we have acted as the main supplier of oil and gas resources to support the country's socio-economic development, participated in the creation of the national strategic system of oil reserves and studied in the national energy development planning program, which plays an increasingly important role both in the domestic and foreign markets.

    Over the past two decades, Sinochem Group has not only consolidated its traditional advantages in the field of international trade, storage and logistics of oil, but also accelerated the expansion of its business at both ends of the production chain, ensuring sustainable growth of its business .... "and so on.
  • flicker 20 March 2020 14: 37 New
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    an energy company in China,

    Do you see the difference between an OIL and an ENERGY company or not?
    Google to help you.
  • Eugene P. 20 March 2020 14: 50 New
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    You phrases “laid a solid foundation in the oil sector”, “as the main supplier of oil and gas resources”, “participated in the creation of the national strategic system of oil reserves”, “in the field of international trade, storage and logistics of oil” do you see? Or do you need an English version directly from the original?
  • flicker 20 March 2020 16: 31 New
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    Well done, you’ve laid out the “phrases”, I think that you can articulate, the only thing left is to understand the meaning of what you read.
    To make it clearer, combine these "phrases"
    - "laid a solid foundation in the oil sector, as the main supplier oil and gas resources, participated in creating a national strategic system oil reserves, in the field of international trade, storage and logistics of oil.
    Get: supplier company.
    In order to supply resources, transport is necessary, for example: a pipeline, oil carriers, gas carriers, etc. - "laid a solid foundation ..."
    Further, “storage and logistics” once again confirms the function of the supplier (and not the OIL company)
    Now we are assembling the whole chain: Rosneft extracted oil and sold it to the Chinese CNPC, Transneft carried out the transportation (a supplier who "laid a solid foundation ...").
    Further transportation, storage is carried out by some Chinese company, also the sinochem group.
    Well, with what fright does it become OIL?
    It is the same oil as Transneft.
  • Eugene P. 20 March 2020 17: 53 New
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    Not the whole chain. Rosneft extracted oil and sold it to Chinese cnpc OR some sinochem, because Obviously, a company buying oil is not alone there. Therefore, the description of the company does not only include logistics, but INTERNATIONAL TRADE.
    Well, for the dessert.
    https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3248710
    "News" we also have now a fake player that duplicates Reuters, huh? Oh, these singers of Pyandos, driving a wedge between the great Russian-Ketai friendship. "Sinochem International Oil purchases oil for a refinery in Quanzhou city in eastern China, the refinery is owned by Sinochem Group." .. you see! What a lie ...
  • flicker 20 March 2020 19: 53 New
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    Obviously, a company buying oil is not alone there.
    And who says that alone? Especially buying, you can buy oil and the author, but you are unlikely to think of calling yourself an OIL company (although who knows you and the author).
    INTERNATIONAL TRADE.
    They are suppliers, there are probably tankers, there is a storage facility that they can buy oil on their own.
    But an OIL company is primarily oil production.
    A Sinochem Group. it is not mined, which means it is NOT an oil company, as its author called it.
    Oil refinery, whether it be even in China or even in Israel, wink it’s still not an oil company - just a refinery, like a restaurant with one fish on its menu, cannot be called a fishing vessel (although you can name it).
    Well, for the dessert.
    Rosneft has a contract with CNPC (China National Petroleum Corporation) until 2023 (about $ 1 per barrel - remember how much now). And how then could the Chinese “dump” Rosneft? bully
    So this whole article is just idle talk.
  • Eugene P. 21 March 2020 11: 36 New
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    I do not argue that idle talk, which now all the news is full of. After all, the significance of this company, its percentage of total purchases (and whether they were from the Russian Federation at all), and so on, are not clear. Confused categorical and vague wording - the company either does not deal with oil purchases, or something else ..
    engaged, another question is whether this sinochem is violet to us. And regardless of contracts, “Russian with Chinese brothers forever” is really only in someone’s wet dreams - they will only buy while there is no alternative.
  • flicker 21 March 2020 13: 30 New
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    "Russian with Chinese brothers forever"
    I agree, this is all from the past.
    Now all the commercial brothers, exactly for the period of commerce.
  • Eugene P. 20 March 2020 13: 30 New
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    Yes, read their site. Energy, including oil industry, they are engaged in. Apparently, the frame level "translate from google translate" http://www.sinochem.com/en/1387.html
  • Krasnodar 18 March 2020 21: 12 New
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    Quote: mordvin xnumx

    And why would he be on our side if the Americans and we are bourgeois countries? Naturally, he will respect only his interests.

    In 1969, socialist China began a friendship with the capitalist States and conducted limited military operations against the socialist USSR.
    1. Pathos 19 March 2020 04: 04 New
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      For which I got the most tomatoes laughing
  • flicker 19 March 2020 12: 25 New
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    And why will he be on our side

    There is no such OIL company in China.
    This stuffing from Reuters reprinted do not understand which author.
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    Dog 19 March 2020 21: 27 New
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    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    And why would he be on our side if the Americans and we are bourgeois countries?

    The leader of the bourgeois world is the United States, not us. Instead of confronting the ringleader, China prefers to do quite a bourgeois business with him.
    It is as if Stalin and Hitler had reconciled to strike, say, against Mussolini, and you would have justified Stalin by saying that, what is the difference, both fascists.
  • Svarog 18 March 2020 14: 53 New
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    Quote: Nasr
    China will be on the side where the money will be

    China acts pragmatically and most importantly predictably .. well, at least for a sane person ..
    And someone painted the successes of China and connected these successes with the Communist Party - so answer whether there is communism or not?

    At the head of the idea of ​​socialism is the state and it defines the key areas of life .. and it was this factor that worked in favor of the development of China ..
    Socialism (from lat. socialis “public”) - a series of economic and social systems characterized by state and public control over the economy, means of production and distribution of resources ...
    In our case, the state has withdrawn from all vital areas in favor of a narrow group of people .. and we now have what we have .. and left behind only tax collections ..
    1. Lexus 18 March 2020 15: 51 New
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      and it left only tax fees ..

      To "row" the mind a lot is not necessary.
    2. Tank hard 18 March 2020 18: 38 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      China acts pragmatically and most importantly predictably

      Selling, however, as always. But for some "analysts." this is apparently news. laughing
      Quote: Svarog
      well, at least for a sane person ..

      ... it has long been known what China is, and for the rest this is news. laughing
      Quote: Svarog
      At the head of the idea of ​​socialism is the state and it defines the key areas of life .. and it was this factor that worked in favor of the development of China ..
      Socialism (from lat. Socialis “public”) is a series of economic and social systems characterized by state and public control over the economy, means of production and distribution of resources ...

      Demagogy... request
      1. Pathos 19 March 2020 04: 05 New
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        Demagogy...

        Nooooo BOLTOLOGY laughing
      2. CSKA 19 March 2020 12: 52 New
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        Demagogy

        Especially with regard to:
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        state and public control

        Just nothing. A set of letters completely unrelated to modern China.
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      China acts pragmatically and most importantly predictably.

      Malchish-Bad also acted pragmatically and, most importantly, predictably
  • novobranets 19 March 2020 19: 51 New
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    And someone painted the successes of China and connected these successes with the Communist Party - so answer whether there is communism or not?

    There is. Only he is Chinese. I was always sure that one should not turn his back to China, no matter how he swore eternal friendship. And you can not rely on his help in a crisis. Will not help. Instead of extending a hand, he would rather substitute his leg.
  • ddd1975 20 March 2020 08: 25 New
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    China has always been and will be on its side, and it’s time for us to take our own and not look for “friends”!
  • 30143 19 March 2020 09: 22 New
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    China does not believe the heirs of the USSR!
    After trampled Stalin .... and squeezed the Crimea. Oh, returned to their home harbor. Therefore, they rely only on themselves. And they have no allies. They all produce themselves. And what does Russia produce? Just do not take into account the defense industry.
    1. Evgeny Suslin 19 March 2020 17: 04 New
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      You young man are deeply mistaken about the fact that China has EVERYTHING. They do not have many of their minerals. No coking and combustible coals, no gas, no copper, etc. A lot of China buys abroad. They even buy agricultural products.
      1. 30143 19 March 2020 17: 32 New
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        Oh, No. But does everything. Literally. Go to the store and find products with a broad Made in Russia.
        And as for resources, I can say the following. They recycle perfectly live.
        Gas? Imported from Qatar.
        But, if they don’t buy in the Russian Federation, then, excuse me, gaplik!
        If they stop taking out the forest, what will happen to the East?
        Resources - this is 25-35% of the product.
        Do you know that all garbage from all over the world is messing with China?
        In general, this is a futile argument. Time will tell...
        One thing already seemed like oil had fallen, so in Russia everyone stood up to their ears.
        Because the commodity economy prevails.
        And advice - get acquainted with economic geography ... Only not Soviet and not from Solovyov.
  • shahor 19 March 2020 17: 28 New
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    China is bought and sold for money, more precisely for big money ..

    Today, China itself is able to buy anyone. China today has one reliable ally, China. They are not for Russia, and not against. They are for themselves. Compare China's trade with Russia and the United States. I think it’s clear.
  • YOUR 20 March 2020 14: 20 New
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    China has invested nearly 1,5 trillion bucks in the United States. Yes, they are among themselves when they curse like a quarrel between spouses.
    Concerning ...
    Not so long ago, RAO Gazprom started talking about a possible shutdown of the Power of Siberia gas pipeline. It was supposedly planned preventive work

    So only on December 2 they began to fill this force, i.e. a little more than 3 months ago, what preventive work can be.
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    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Nasr
    I do not see our comrades admiring China ...

    Indeed, comrades have disappeared ... they are interpreting the setup .. But meanwhile, people here are sensible, to whom I consider opponents of today's power and its policies, both external and internal .. did not get tired of saying that China is more an enemy than a friend and very dangerous "partner"

    First, you need to wait for official confirmation.
    Secondly, no one called China “friend”. Situational partner, this was discussed.
    Thirdly, it is not known what steps were envisaged by the Russian Federation in this case.

    Well, and so, from myself .. You don’t do honor, like that, after blowing the wind, “throw up bonnets” and rejoice at the possible failure of Russia.
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      Well, and so, from myself .. You don’t do honor, like that, after blowing the wind, “throw up bonnets” and rejoice at the possible failure of Russia.

      Now it’s not a breath of wind but a storm .. You seem to live in Germany .. And when there was a blow, I warned of such consequences .. and where did you see my joy .. I, unlike you, this situation will directly affect ..
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        Now it’s not a breath of wind but a storm .. You seem to live in Germany .. And when there was a blow, I warned of such consequences .. and where did you see my joy .. I, unlike you, this situation will directly affect ..

        It is good that you understood me! hi
        Already so many times, the dracers of Russia sat in a puddle ...
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          Already so many times, the dracers of Russia sat in a puddle ...

          And I wonder if you know better from Germany, right? Well, we’d come and help not to "merge."
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            LMN 18 March 2020 15: 56 New
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            Quote: LMN
            Already so many times, the dracers of Russia sat in a puddle ...

            And I wonder if you know better from Germany, right? Well, we’d come and help not to "merge."

            And I wonder who asks?
            You understand that your ranks here are dust.
            Waiting for specifics.
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              And I wonder who asks?

              I'm asking. A resident of the Tula region, where 15 enterprises (4 under Yeltsin, 2 under Putin) that I worked for were destroyed within a 2-minute walk. On the other hand, exactly 4 offices for the provision of funeral services appeared in the same radius, and there were just a few others, such as a car service, for bottling beer and even for making plastic glazing beads that clog into the walls ..
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              Quote: mordvin xnumx
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              And I wonder who asks?

              I'm asking. A resident of the Tula region, where 15 enterprises (4 under Yeltsin, 2 under Putin) that I worked for were destroyed within a 2-minute walk. On the other hand, exactly 4 offices for the provision of funeral services appeared in the same radius, and there were just a few others, such as a car service, for bottling beer and even for making plastic glazing beads that clog into the walls ..

              That is, that someone stopped the collapse of the Russian Federation at the beginning of the XNUMXs doesn’t matter to you? You don’t think about it ..
              Important 4 enterprises destroyed ...
              I'm not surprised to be honest ..
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              Ie that someone stopped the collapse of the Russian Federation at the beginning of the two thousandth for you is not important?

              What a stop? Amnesty to Chechen fighters with the purchase of weapons from them, instead of soaking them in the toilet, is this a stop? Where else is the Russian Federation falling apart, tell me.
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              What a stop? Amnesty to Chechen fighters with the purchase of weapons from them, instead of soaking them in the toilet, is this a stop? Where else is the Russian Federation falling apart, tell me.

              You are just a boor. And I won’t answer you as I would like. Thousands of our guys died there. Tell me, was this done in vain?
              State? I received a certificate of housing (Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug) and bought an apartment in Tyumen.
              Yes, in Germany. I grew up in the USSR, in the Far North. I did not see anything in childhood except books and the magazine Murzilka. But I was not offended. And I defended my homeland.
              And the Russian consulate in Germany is working! To my question about possible help, I received a clear and concrete answer.
              Including not to you, I blame the place of residence. "2 hours" and I'm on the spot.
              But you should think about it ..
            5. Mordvin 3 18 March 2020 16: 50 New
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              Tell me it was done in vain? Come ....

              And I will say. For the pipe. That's all. And you say in Afghanistan, too, ours were usefully killed? I have a friend, I was there for three years, until his legs were torn off, so he still does not understand what we did there.
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              Tell me it was done in vain? Come ....

              And I will say. For the pipe. That's all. And you say in Afghanistan, too, ours were usefully killed? I have a friend, I was there for three years, until his legs were torn off, so he still does not understand what we did there.

              I can not say anything about the Afghan war, because I was a youth.
              But I am sure that soldiers always remain soldiers.
              “Wars are changing, soldiers are not changing” (c)

              In vain you are so chopping up ... it’s not just that many support the current government. Well, okay. Okay, millions of people living abroad. But in Russia, too many support GDP.
              Are we all wrong?
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              But in Russia, too many support GDP.
              Are we all wrong?

              As Dr. Blood sang: "Where, where, you seek, madmen ..."
              I do not know who is right. I have my own head, and she thinks what she thinks. Just returned from stores, found salt only in the fourth. Yes, and she went up, was 8 per kilo, became -12. They take it all apart. Shelves with buckwheat and cheap rice are already empty, I took a photograph with a specialist, for the sake of laughter.
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              LMN 18 March 2020 17: 53 New
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              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: LMN
              But in Russia, too many support GDP.
              Are we all wrong?

              As Dr. Blood sang: "Where, where, you seek, madmen ..."
              I do not know who is right. I have my own head, and she thinks what she thinks. Just returned from stores, found salt only in the fourth. Yes, and she went up, was 8 per kilo, became -12. They take it all apart. Shelves with buckwheat and cheap rice are already empty, I took a photograph with a specialist, for the sake of laughter.

              If it’s no secret, in which city do you live?
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              If it’s no secret, in which city do you live?

              What is the secret here? I wrote more than once. Tula region, Novomoskovsk.
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              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: LMN
              If it’s no secret, in which city do you live?

              What is the secret here? I wrote more than once. Tula region, Novomoskovsk.

              Ie there is salt, buckwheat and rice "more expensive" too?
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              Is there salt, buckwheat and rice "more expensive" too?

              I found salt in a small store where few people go; buckwheat and rice are still more expensive. 93 rubles, instead of 50 and 70 with something.
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              Is there salt, buckwheat and rice "more expensive" too?

              I found salt in a small store where few people go; buckwheat and rice are still more expensive. 93 rubles, instead of 50 and 70 with something.

              Mom asked, she is currently in Magnitogorsk. I am waiting for an answer, in buckwheat, rice, salt ...

              If this calculation does not suit, I can interview the guys from Chelyabinsk, Nizhny Tagil and others.
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              I will not answer for Chelyabinsk and Magnitogorsk. As for Tagil, although I can also ask how it is.
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              I will not answer for Chelyabinsk and Magnitogorsk. As for Tagil, although I can also ask how it is.

              In Perm, Ulyanovsk, Naberezhnye Chelny, the picture is the same.
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              I will not answer for Chelyabinsk and Magnitogorsk. As for Tagil, although I can also ask how it is.



              Well ??
              Where are the problems with salt, rice and buckwheat?
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              Where are the problems with salt, rice and buckwheat?

              In our city. By the way, I went before I answered you. Wait, what tomorrow or the day after tomorrow will be?
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              Where are the problems with salt, rice and buckwheat?

              In our city. By the way, I went before I answered you. Wait, what tomorrow or the day after tomorrow will be?

              It will be the same.
              If you have food problems in the city, contact the authorities!
              Should I find you phone numbers, or can you handle it yourself?
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              Look, of course .. There you are, how clever ..))
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            Vova, people like you and Svarog create panic and UNJUSTIFIED rush demand for goods. About 3 days ago, the wife was in the store - the shelves were empty. He says people are crazy. 2 days passed and that's it, the assortment is the same as it was before the panic. No need to use rumors and inflate them, including in VO, as your camarilla does.
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            Vova, people like you and Svarog create panic and UNJUSTIFIED rush demand for goods.

            Alyosha, I cited the fact of what I saw with my own eyes. I do not urge anywhere to stock up on cereals and canned goods, do as you want, not small.
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            Little Johnny, don’t merge, did you upload pictures with empty shelves? Like, look, what have they brought the country to? And in a day the shelves are full again. And at the same prices? Here you dipped in guano. Let’s go with Svarog.
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            Little Johnny, don’t merge, did you upload pictures with empty shelves? Like, look, what have they brought the country to? And in a day the shelves are full again. And at the same prices?

            Do you want me to go to the same store right now and take photos of the same shelves? I was there four hours ago. Without changes. The same empty. But I won’t go anywhere, Aleshenka, send your spouse there, let her report to you what has changed there and at what price, shopping is not a man’s business, right? So sit and wait for a report from your missus.
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    So, today is 18.03/19.00. Yesterday I went around the shops: magnolia, five, magnet, dixie and the seventh continent. Moscow. Centre. From bread I could buy only a baguette. Which should be eaten right away. All the shelves on which were supposed to be rice, buckwheat, pasta, etc. were empty. Dare the whole chicken. In the course of his movement he watched young girls with carts from the store, carts jammed to the eyeballs. Grandparents with bags on wheels. I talked with the cashier in Pyaterochka. She was surprised to say that two wagons arrived during the day, delivered the goods. All disassembled)) Time 20.00-200. There was definitely salt. Today there were rumors (information not yet verified) that in some stores the cheese went up by XNUMX rubles.
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    Today there are rumors (information not yet verified)that in some stores cheese went up by 200r.

    And you, with pleasure, carry this "information" further. Here, many nod to Stalin, but what measures did he use to alarmists? To the wall, and no talk, exhortations and conversations. Spread the panic in the other world.
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    Well ??
    Where are the problems with salt, rice and buckwheat?

    People are ... different.
    I also saw EMPTY SHELVES ... only no one wants to shoot that there is a box next to the shelves, a pallet, a cart on which they brought the same salt \ buckwheat \ cheap macaroons that sellers don’t even want to unload on the shelves, they are tortured, it’s not worth it, people are already Dismantled YESTERDAY, TOMORROW, and tomorrow and then no one will buy, because they have accumulated to the eyeballs !!!
    A certain supply of long-term storage products, NZ, will not hurt to have a home, but it is not necessary to arrange a blockage from anything, the Schaub rotted or ruined the shashal !!!
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    It’s you who solved the problem like that ??)
    You above the person laid out another screen .. there, too, you see no problem ??)
  • LMN
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    I will not answer for Chelyabinsk and Magnitogorsk. As for Tagil, although I can also ask how it is.

    What can you ask for Tagil there?
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    What can you ask for Tagil there?

    For a life. What do you need?
    Quote: LMN
    If you have food problems in the city, contact the authorities!

    laughing And what will they do? Will they bring a kilo of buckwheat to my house at yesterday's price?
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    [media = https: //m.youtube.com/watch? v = WiMXmsaSU1s]
    This is Tagil, you scoundrel am
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    This is Tagil, you scoundrel

    Do not call names. I have relatives in Tagil, but what are you thinking about?
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    I found salt in a small store where few people go; buckwheat and rice are still more expensive. 93 rubles, instead of 50 and 70 with something.

    Yesterday and today I bought everything at the old prices (in the store). Today I went to the bases, which would stock up. There was no groceries from the word at all or at not sane prices (Moscow). He didn’t become embarrassed and categorically refused to take exorbitant prices, knowing that rake races are our national sport. How many times have networks selling merchandise surplus in the wake of panic and rumors made money. A week or two passed by force and everything fell into place. So now there will be a rollback. Those who bought all this crap, as always, will be fools. And now essentially:
    Long-term storage vegetables, onions, potatoes, carrots. (Almost 2 times) went up. Tajiks made money on our Russian products and on alarmists.
    Remained at the same level:
    Apples, tomatoes, cucumbers, meat and meat gastronomy.
    At the moment, 21h. 58 minutes delivery of groceries at the old prices went to the network. With all of you who created the hype and congratulations!
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    With all of you who created the hype and congratulations!

    And I did not create it. My neighbor asked me to buy salt. So not at the address. Although there will be a rise in price, I have no doubt.
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    With all of you who created the hype and congratulations!

    And I did not create it. My neighbor asked me to buy salt. So not at the address. Although there will be a rise in price, I have no doubt.

    Salt, by the way, was also bought up; it was a pity there were no matches at that time. Today he poured this salt, which had not risen a drop in price again to the store and cursed everyone, for hard work and a rise at 3 in the morning. It’s interesting what those who bought it will do with it. Winter has passed, you won’t even sprinkle paths.
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    With all of you who created the hype and congratulations!

    I’m also telling you who should earn the same in a panic. hi
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    With all of you who created the hype and congratulations!

    I’m also telling you who should earn the same in a panic. hi

    Earned every shushera in the wholesale markets and federal (read them) network.
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    Earned every shushera in the wholesale markets and federal (read them) networks

    I don’t argue, I’m burning! hi Their main assistants, alarmists, including from this site. It seems that they curse them, they immediately bring them the money, these cool bastards. wink
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    Their main assistants, alarmists, including from this site.
    This, by the way, many people notice. All right.
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    At the moment, 21h. 58 minutes delivery of groceries at the old prices went to the network. With all of you who created the hype and congratulations!

    So obviously there was a zhezh ... for the absence (so far, at least) of at least some objective reasons for the disappearance or substantial rise in price of all of the above.

    But at best, ahem ... a certain part of the population now has a lot of pasta, cereals, salt and toilet paper laughing
  • lis-ik 18 March 2020 22: 47 New
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    toilet paper

    Did not go up, today I took Zewa to the store, as before.
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    Yes, it’s understandable ... stocking up (maybe not a fact, but maybe) makes sense with what you need for everyday life and at the same time it’s not sold in grocery stores.

    But in general, as for me - this whole cow virus is another "goose bullshit", there was such a novel from the time of swine flu. In this regard, it is very curious to observe the reaction of plankton (including local), which has a pronounced clip thinking. Some instances actually deliver yes laughing
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    and toilet paper
    Well, the interest in cereals among the panicking public can still be understood, but toilet paper belay
    I read somewhere that a panicking audience has intestinal cramps ... well, fellow lol
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    Well, the interest in cereals among the panicking public can still be understood, but toilet paper

    Take an example from the Americans. I already wrote here about clip thinking.

    Well, at least we don’t have pistols on sale laughing
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    A week or two passed by force and everything fell into place. So now there will be a rollback.


    Of course of course. And the dollar will return to its 30 rubles per dollar. Give time - everything will work out.
    Some grandmothers are ready to drag along by public transport to the other end of the city due to a small difference in price. And people are buying not just products - but only products at the old price. And the fact that the new one will be at least not lower than the old one is that their purchases are quite reasonable. And the hype "buy for any price, because everything is lost" - so this is stupidity, and it’s already quite rare.
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    Of course of course

    I'm talking about cereals and other groceries, originally Russian, and where is the dollar? It’s just once again that fools are bred.
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    I'm talking about cereals and other groceries, originally Russian


    Eh hehe .... I remember the bucks and 6, and 30, and 60. Now here is 77 ... He never returned to the previous mark. Slides back a bit from the rush, but not the same. And for some reason, purely Russian cereals transported on purely Russian gasoline are slowly creeping up for a purely American dollar.
    And in a month everyone will go to buy them at already higher prices. But Chinese office equipment for trading in our cereals (as well as spare parts, electrics and even nails) will now have to be bought at 20% more expensive.
    I’m never an economist, but our state taught me one thing - saving up more than two salaries in rubles is dangerous for health. It, this state manages to rip me off better than bankers when exchanging currency back and forth.
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    This is your bad store, I buy in Dixie and there are no empty shelves, where there was cereal - now milk, where there were pasta - now Rolton, in general, something else can be bought
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    bad store i buy in dixie

    I went to four different stores, which is closer to the house. That's all. He didn’t go anywhere specifically, and did not look for anything except salt.
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    In vain you are so chopping up ... it’s not just that many support the current government. Well, okay. Okay, millions of people living abroad. But in Russia, too many support GDP.


    Better to chop the truth than to constantly lie to people ..
    And at the expense of supporting GDP ... this is only in the dreams of Matvienka or Tereshkova .. Take a word to the average person .. 8 out of 10 will not wait until this power is removed ..
    There is simply no one to remove .. and there is no place .. And the television for that gives a damn to create an illusion ..
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    And you say in Afghanistan, too, ours were usefully killed?
    And Putin made the decision to introduce OK or the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee ??? Vova, exhale, you are talking. Your favorite communists.
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    Yes, in general, it is much easier to love your homeland from a distance, especially with a German standard of living and salaries good most of my acquaintances and distant relatives live in Europe, and almost all as one are ardent patriots and supporters of the authorities. I, like you, do not blame them for anything, just a banal offer to return to my native birch trees, everyone somehow politely refuses well, or begin to sculpt various excuses. laughing Nobody forbids you to love the Motherland and remember your roots, for that you have respect and respect, but people living here, every day feeling "getting up from their knees" are probably better seen, especially since every day it is felt on one’s own skin . hi no offense
  • Svarog 18 March 2020 15: 54 New
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    Already so many times, the dracers of Russia sat in a puddle ...

    People in Russia are sitting in a puddle, and merchants manage it .. but you don’t understand there in Germany ..
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      Quote: Svarog
      Quote: LMN
      Already so many times, the dracers of Russia sat in a puddle ...

      People in Russia are sitting in a puddle, and merchants manage it .. but you don’t understand there in Germany ..

      Who do you want?

      The location absolutely did not prevent people like you from being policemen.
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        Quote: LMN
        The location absolutely did not prevent people like you from being policemen.

        good hi
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        LMN 18 March 2020 17: 38 New
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        Quote: Paranoid50
        Quote: LMN
        The location absolutely did not prevent people like you from being policemen.

        good hi

        The paradox is that it does not mean anything to them. It is not disputed and not dumb ...
        hi
      3. Krasnodar 18 March 2020 21: 29 New
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        I agree with the LMN, Tank, Golovan and Paranoid 50.
        The only difference in location is that I speak from the point of view of someone who has come in ... a very big difference, when it's good, on a world level, the Hospital is 15–25 minutes away from you and your children and three hours of summer. Otherwise, I completely agree with all of the above forum users.
  • Tank hard 18 March 2020 18: 43 New
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    Quote: LMN
    The location absolutely did not prevent people like you from being policemen.

    The right answer. good
  • Tank hard 18 March 2020 18: 41 New
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    People in Russia are sitting in a puddle, and merchants manage it .. but you don’t understand in Germany there.

    Everything is lost!!! wassat
  • Golovan Jack 18 March 2020 19: 17 New
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    Quote: Svarog
    People in Russia are sitting in a puddle

    No, Svarog, you are not the people of Russia. Although you are in a puddle, yes - sit, here you are right.
  • Tank hard 18 March 2020 18: 40 New
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    I warned of such consequences ..

    To tears! laughing
  • fleks 18 March 2020 19: 28 New
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    Very interesting opinion. And if you go further and ask a question ---- who personally organized this failure of Russia? 0000 ????
  • flicker 19 March 2020 12: 59 New
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    You need to wait for official confirmation.
    Necessary.
    And you can, without waiting for official confirmation, just see if there is such an OIL company in China at all and find with horror that there is NO OIL company!
  • Starover_Z 18 March 2020 15: 00 New
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    Alas, the Chinese comrades are once again demonstrating that it would be frivolous and dangerous to consider them as Russia's “allies”.

    Quote: Svarog
    China is more our enemy than friend and a very dangerous "partner"

    So Gazprom needs to reduce the appetite of its menache and focus on the domestic market of the country! To supply their cities and villages with gas!
    1. Igoresha 18 March 2020 18: 18 New
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      need to reduce the appetites of their menacherov
      it's impossible ))
      Salaries of top managers of Gazprom, Rosneft and Sberbank exceeded the annual budget of two regions of Russia
      https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/aktsii/zarplaty-top-menedzherov-gazproma-rosnefti-i-sberbanka-prevysili-godovoy-byudzhet-dvukh-regionov-rossii-1027954324

      easier to transfer extra regions to China))
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    for 18 March 2020 17: 25 New
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    Indeed, comrades have disappeared.

    They have long disappeared, becoming comrades of Turkey, but friendship with the Turks is running out. Place will be free for now.
  • lis-ik 18 March 2020 21: 24 New
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    Quote: Svarog

    Indeed, comrades have disappeared.

    About comrades, too, immediately thought. Although I’m a little happy with this news, despite the budget, let this raw material’s front rub off a bit and realize that they don’t hold God by their dandies, let those who have stolen resources and imagined themselves to be the elite descend from heaven to earth. I don’t even dream about the fact that we will create a sector of the real economy.
  • Okolotochny 18 March 2020 23: 43 New
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    Yes, your camarilla admired China.
  • flicker 19 March 2020 12: 21 New
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    that China is more our enemy than friend and a very dangerous "partner"
    Or maybe you are an enemy? bully
    There is no such OIL company in China.
    And do not panic.
  • divanka2021 19 March 2020 12: 30 New
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    the sofa guard has not yet retreated from the shock of the Saudi war, how is it that the course already got to the sofa
  • atalef 18 March 2020 14: 50 New
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    Quote: Nasr
    I don’t see our comrades admiring China ...

    Strange, right now on the next branch they tear the belly for Iran and China, there is an ambush.
    Maybe China asked to lift sanctions from Iran to buy Iranian oil instead of Russian?
    And why China did not ask to lift sanctions from Russia?
    Strange friends recourse
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      Quote: atalef
      Strange friends

      according to the definition of a guarantor, he has only partners ... apparently sexual. Here they have who they can and want.
    2. www3 19 March 2020 11: 00 New
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      According to Reuters, this week all tenders for Urals ended to no avail.
      Trafigura, the largest independent oil supplier in the world, offered shipments with shipment from Primorsk and Ust-Luga on March 30 - April 3 at a price of $ 3,3 lower than Brent (about $ 23 per barrel), but did not find a single buyer.
      Swiss Glencore put up for sale 100 thousand tons of Urals with delivery through the Baltic ports on April 4-8, offering a discount of $ 3,7 to Brent. But also did not meet demand.

      Saudi Arabia squeezes Russian oil from the European market, offering discounts on its oil up to $ 6-10 per barrel. Plus, the factor of "cooling" of the European economy intervened.
      For Russia, this means a collapse of export earnings in March and, most likely, in April.
  • Keyser soze 18 March 2020 15: 10 New
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    Clearly - the Chinese Communist International ..


    The Chinese Communist Party rules in China. In Russia, capitalism with a feudal bias. So what do the Chinese owe to the capitalists?
    1. Nasrat 18 March 2020 15: 28 New
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      Quote: Keyser Soze


      So what do the Chinese owe to the capitalists?


      Ask the United States - the United States has sanctions questions for China .... and the United States has the money, the Chinese Communists like this money ... hence the choice of the conflict side in favor of the United States ... wassat
    2. BREAKTHROUGH READY 18 March 2020 16: 08 New
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      The Chinese Communist Party rules in China. In Russia, capitalism with a feudal bias. So what do the Chinese owe to the capitalists?
      In China, exactly the same "capitalism with a feudal bias" as in Russia, only the nameplate of our parties is different.
      Both countries are in the top5 by the number of billionaires in the world list, in this case, Russian and Chinese are brothers forever.
    3. Starover_Z 18 March 2020 17: 20 New
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      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Clearly - the Chinese Communist International ..


      The Chinese Communist Party rules in China. In Russia, capitalism with a feudal bias. So what do the Chinese owe to the capitalists?

      Is logical. But even in China it is not a purely socialist state with a planned economy. At least they have a very developed NEP, although probably with strict state control.
    4. Tank hard 18 March 2020 18: 46 New
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      Quote: Keyser Soze
      In Russia, capitalism with a feudal bias.

      And what is not this in China? wink
  • Kronos 18 March 2020 15: 13 New
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    I admire the Chinese pragmatically played against the Russian bourgeois
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    Quote: Nasr
    I don’t see our comrades admiring China ... wassat

    A deal with the United States - nothing personal ... Visually - the Chinese Communist International ... bully

    I, can I admire ?! I'm here! And as always I am delighted! I am delighted with another brilliant plan (from the long list of KhPPs) for reversing the policy of the Russian Federation to the East. Because In the West, we and our allies have all (ended), now the greatest geopolitician of all time is demonstrating his successes in foreign policy and in the East. I am impressed!

    Gentlemen, I ask with applause to support my admiration for the success of Mr. President Putin in foreign policy! Well, do you feel sorry for what?
    And will it still be when the United States, unobtrusively, asks China to not supply us, for example, with electronics. Complete import substitution in all spheres will immediately come, and then this phenomenon will go down in history under the name: import-substituted arctic fox (fox from the North) named after you know whom.

    But do not hang your nose, there is good news, from Mr Putin, of course. The “dear father” does not forget us, how he can take care and think of us. Well, I’ve thought up: (source RBC):
    Russian President Vladimir Putin said that in Russia 70% of the inhabitants are middle class. In an interview with TASS, he explained that he proceeds from the methodology of the World Bank, according to which the middle class can include those people whose income is one and a half times the minimum wage.

    PS And again I am delighted! Life is getting better! laughing
    1. Honest Citizen 18 March 2020 16: 43 New
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      Meanwhile, even through and through the “Zaputinsky” RT announced that the barrel fell to the level of 27 dollars.
    2. Svarog 18 March 2020 16: 45 New
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      Quote: Leshy1975
      Russian President Vladimir Putin said that in Russia 70% of the population are middle class.

      Just brother on vatsapu threw this news .. in this regard, I have crept in doubt .. is the president healthy?
      1. Leshy1975 18 March 2020 17: 20 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Leshy1975
        Russian President Vladimir Putin said that in Russia 70% of the population are middle class.

        Just brother on vatsapu threw this news .. in this regard, I have crept in doubt .. is the president healthy?

        Well, the fact that it is inadequate (the situation in the country, at least), I have been writing this for a long time. His country is crumbling, and he urgently needed a wedding for the kingdom. Probably to make people angry. Of course the question
        is the president healthy?
        here already many will have. laughing Except zaputintsev. Once they ask such trifling questions. They themselves are busy with an important matter - they keep track of the victories and achievements of their president. Especially to me Mr. Petrov, when he jumps right out of his pants in this matter, I really like it. Pounding with all his swing “forehead against the wall” already sparks are pouring in, perhaps the fire will not suit you all at once. News, one more failure than the other, comes out one after another, which means Putin’s promised breakthroughs have flooded, and Petrov is becoming increasingly angry at transferring merit.
        Volodya, I think that it’s not only about the president’s health that a question already arises. Maybe they have a virus that has been raging for a long time, but we are not in the know. In vain we just laugh at not quite healthy people. The supporters of the virus, by the way, are worse than the celebrated coronovirus, because unlike the latter, it completely discourages the ability to think critically and see causal relationships. So they follow their president into a "bright future", completely not noticing that they have long gone into a quagmire and a swamp. request
        1. Po-tzan 19 March 2020 02: 37 New
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          Quote: Leshy1975
          Well, the fact that it is inadequate (the situation in the country, at least), I have been writing this for a long time. His country is crumbling, and he urgently needed a wedding for the kingdom. Probably to make people angry.


          Just two terms of 4/5 years and go for a walk - it’s no coincidence that the Georopeian liberals came up with. If you sit at the post of the sun of the nation for more than 10 years, the roof inevitably leaks.
    3. depressant 18 March 2020 17: 16 New
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      And Peskov with an ugly smirk (there is a photograph circulated by all the media) has already explained, they say, you know, there are different international methods for calculating the number of people belonging to the middle class ...
      I was here after the hospital, the first time I got into such an adult state, the sea didn’t stand impressions, I left, I don’t have strength, otherwise I would have crashed, there wouldn’t be enough. Crush the villains, guys, but for now I’ll get sick here - in the literal and figurative sense ((
      1. Leshy1975 18 March 2020 17: 26 New
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        Quote: depressant
        And Peskov with an ugly smirk (there is a photograph circulated by all the media) has already explained, they say, you know, there are different international methods for calculating the number of people belonging to the middle class ...
        I was here after the hospital, the first time I got into such an adult state, the sea didn’t stand impressions, I left, I don’t have strength, otherwise I would have crashed, there wouldn’t be enough. Crush the villains, guys, but for now I’ll get sick here - in the literal and figurative sense ((

        Get well hi Gain strength. Everything, seriously, is just beginning.
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          Thanks, Goblin!
          So, I went in to look at what's here, and saw photos of empty store shelves ...
          Guys, does this remind you of anything? Well, associate!
          Tomorrow, God willing, gain strength - I’ll go and see what’s going on here.
    4. Victor N 18 March 2020 17: 41 New
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      Your trickery is completely inappropriate.
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        Quote: Victor N
        Your trickery is completely inappropriate.

        Why else?
    5. Korax71 18 March 2020 18: 37 New
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      bully I don’t get any applause as long as I can talk fiercely, especially about the middle class. It’s necessary for my retired mother to call and say that with my “Chechens” and with the fact that I’m throwing her with her, she’s now the middle class, that’s wassat
    6. New Year day 18 March 2020 21: 38 New
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      Quote: Leshy1975
      I ask with applause to support my admiration for the success of Mr. President Putin in foreign policy!

      somehow it all goes together: coronovirus, Saudi Arabia with Iraq, China ...
      Quote: Svarog
      is the president healthy?

      what health is needed to withstand this laughing
      They threw everything as he threw everyone. Only Zolotov to help, and he will jerk if necessary.
      1. military_cat 19 March 2020 23: 30 New
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        Quote: Silvestr
        somehow it all goes together: coronovirus, Saudi Arabia with Iraq, China ...
        This is called "every bite on the line." There is no conspiracy, everything is simpler: when stability relies solely on PR, it begins to chatter from any hesitation rolling from the real world.
  • sniperino 18 March 2020 17: 28 New
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    Quote: Nasr
    I don’t see our comrades admiring China ... wassat
    A deal with the United States - nothing personal ... Visually - the Chinese Communist International.
    If the Chinese reduced their trade with Venezuela, then the communist international could be remembered, and so ... where are we and where is he. Or the Russian Federation got involved in an economic war with the United States for the sake of friendship with China?
  • DPN
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    NUCLEAR VISUALLY - The Chinese Communist International ..
    You have long become a communist, so that CHINA helps you, you betray them yourself in '91. Do you want to eat a fish and not sit down.?
  • aybolyt678 19 March 2020 23: 27 New
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    Quote: Nasr
    A deal with the United States - nothing personal ... Visually - the Chinese Communist International ...

    China did not betray the idea of ​​communism, but we betrayed ... China sees the world in G2 format
  • Victor N 18 March 2020 17: 31 New
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    But China - an importer of oil is interested in its low cost - will think about it.
  • Ivan Kolodin 18 March 2020 14: 32 New
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    Yes, and here some argue that oil is a small part of exports and we got off the needle for 20 years, and everything is fine with us and our welfare does not depend on oil .... It turns out that they lied ...
  • antivirus 18 March 2020 14: 39 New
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    Hanirik slippers and fur coats to import - under the ban and continue to smile always and to all Chinese

    whoever wanted not with a small spoon - here you can draw power with large spoons. raw superpower
    1. Snail N9 18 March 2020 14: 55 New
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      China entered the oil war on the side of Russia's opponents

      Just like children, they still believe that China is a strategic "partner" and must, of course, be "on the side of Russia." China has never been and will never be on any side, except for its own - it always pursues only its selfish interests. It’s time already to “cut off on the nose” and to memorialize “as“ our father ”.” found a pancake, another "friend", yeah. negative
  • Varyag71 18 March 2020 15: 02 New
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    The Kremlin boats will have nothing to pay. At least one plus.
    1. Ross xnumx 18 March 2020 15: 31 New
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      The position taken by China regarding Rosneft is a very alarming signal.

      An alarming signal is the state of affairs at Rosneft. Dependence of state revenues on this company, called itself state, company and shareholder income and other effective ...
      And China will buy not what Russia needs, but what is beneficial to it. And the weakening of Russia is one of the important priorities of the Chinese "partners." Or does someone else consider China a friend of Russia?
      wassat
      1. New Year day 18 March 2020 21: 45 New
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        An alarming signal is the state of affairs at Rosneft.

        Such suckers still need to search laughing
        2018 VTB has signed an agreement with the Chinese CEFC to provide a loan of € 5 billion for the purchase of a 14,16% stake in Rosneft.
        With a sin in half, Russian managers managed to find a Chinese investor for Rosneft in more than a year. True, he does not pay money, but for the deal you can pulled out the loot from the VTB State Bank and use it. What will happen next? Apparently, after a while, the CEFC will eat the “interest” on the transaction (including dividends) due to it and return not the most liquid, to put it mildly, securities of the Sechin corporation to VTB Bank.
        “They don’t want to buy (the Chinese), so we make different offers, we compose different carrots in order to drag out the shares,” Sechin said about the privatization of Rosneft.
        To date, the Chinese, using VTB money, have refused to purchase Rosneft
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      The Kremlin boats will have nothing to pay. At least one plus.

      Sorry for them, disappear (from the site). We’ll have to help them, we’ll cover them with the “dirty shekels of the State Department.” hi But only after they help us find these very shekels first. laughing
  • Dimmedroll 18 March 2020 20: 11 New
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    YES the budget does not include a maximum of 39 percent, and a minimum of 10 percent. This must be calculated. But essentially in the world of economic war. What is there to be surprised.
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    Quote: Qwertyarion
    If the sale of oil under sanctions fails, it will be very bad for the budget .... and the budget is salaries and pensions


    But what about the laughing Iskanders?

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    But nothing that Sinochem never bought anything from Rosneft?
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      "According to Reuters, this week all tenders for Urals have ended to no avail.
      Trafigura, the largest independent oil supplier in the world, offered shipments with shipment from Primorsk and Ust-Luga on March 30 - April 3 at a price of $ 3,3 lower than Brent (about $ 23 per barrel), but did not find a single buyer.
      Swiss Glencore put up for sale 100 thousand tons of Urals with delivery through the Baltic ports on April 4-8, offering a discount of $ 3,7 to Brent. But also did not meet demand.

      Saudi Arabia squeezes Russian oil from the European market, offering discounts on its oil up to $ 6-10 per barrel. Plus, the factor of "cooling" of the European economy intervened.
      For Russia, this means a collapse in export earnings in March and, most likely, in April. "

      so no one is going to buy a campaign at all.
  • flicker 19 March 2020 12: 28 New
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    Nothing personal just business.

    There is no such OIL company in China.
    This author waved Reytors.
  • smart ass 19 March 2020 15: 43 New
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    Actually, why did China have to take the position of the Russian Federation ??? China benefits from cheap oil.
  • TermNachTer 19 March 2020 23: 18 New
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    China, the only one who openly opposes mattress dictates. And with regards to oil, narrow-film, they are fighting purely on their side. For them, the fall in oil prices, an excellent opportunity to replenish strategic reserves of fuels and lubricants, at the lowest price.
  • riwas 20 March 2020 05: 21 New
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    You do not know Panikovsky yet! Panikovsky will sell you all and buy you, and will sell you again, but already more expensive!
  • klaus16 18 March 2020 14: 13 New
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    And then an ambush! What is it? Very big disappointment! We have no friends or comrades.
    1. Qwertyarion 18 March 2020 14: 26 New
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      Quote: klaus16
      We have no friends or comrades.

      We have only two allies: the army and the navy!
    2. Paul 18 March 2020 14: 28 New
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      Yes, and the horse with them! We had no friends and never will be. No one is friends with the strong. Anyone use force or loot on the remains. Yes, and we especially do not love and did not love. Lover with a nuclear component, it leads to tenderness few people. We are the same piggos as the Chinese and Americans. We will someday become the No. 1 power in the same way that we will be drunk with us anywhere in the world, just like with Amers or the Romans a couple of thousand years ago. Another thing is that we (like the Chinese people by the way) do not love ourselves. Only 100 years ago, get rid of the estate society as they themselves created a new one on the basis of money. And so we live in the arms of the fattening elite and unfriendly countries. It remains to be wondered who and how quickly and efficiently merge the people. True, there is a belief that this is all not forever and someday it will be possible to create a civil society and get rid of the oligarchy of bureaucrats.
      1. atalef 18 March 2020 14: 54 New
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        Quote: Paul
        We had no friends and never will be. No one is friends with the strong

        Right?
        Quote: Paul
        Yes, and we especially do not love anyone and did not love

        Maybe the dog rummaged around here?
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          Quote: atalef
          Maybe the dog rummaged around here?

          And Cho, are you suggesting something to love? Let angry dogs love you. We still disentangle your “friendship, equality and fraternity”.
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      We have no friends or comrades

      Putin needs to be asked how he is. strategic partners for the country he chooses that they will throw us at the very first schucher. In general, in the medium term for Russia, some kind of big, black w .. looms.
      1. atalef 18 March 2020 14: 54 New
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        We need to ask Putin how he chooses strategic partners for the country, that they throw us at the very first

        One must be friends with America, not be measured by eggs
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          Quote: atalef
          Quote: kjhg
          We need to ask Putin how he chooses strategic partners for the country, that they throw us at the very first

          One must be friends with America, not be measured by eggs

          And since the hunchbacked and ending (approximately) 2006, we were not friends with her? Well, how do you characterize that period, come up with something (it doesn’t matter what) to stay right .. let alone the “golden” 90s .. no? Not a fan of discussing here, but I read this and was surprised.
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            Quote: vitvit123
            And since the hunchbacked and ending (approximately) 2006, we were not friends with her? Well how

            OK, the fattest years.
            Quote: vitvit123
            Well, how do you characterize that period, come up with something (it doesn’t matter what) to stay right .. and even the “golden” 90s .. no

            And the 90s have to do with it.
            The country fell apart
            I remember the end of the 90s and until 2006 - everything was bold in Russia.
            So far, Putin, who has become stupefied by petrodollars, cannot push the Munich speech.
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              Once again, what are the fat years? More specifically please. I can’t understand .. late 80s, 90s? ..
              How is it with the 90s? We were not friends with amers in the 90s? In your?
            2. Mordvin 3 18 March 2020 15: 24 New
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              Quote: atalef
              the end of the 90s and until 2006 - in Russia everything was bold.

              Yeah, May 99th. I am growing up at a friend’s funeral. I wanted a bottle of beer, scraped through my pockets 2, 50. Well, I think that's enough, yesterday Taoping was 2,40 each. Yeah, I go up to the tent - 2,70. I had to borrow 20 cents.
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                No more taopin already recourse now the current Baltic request
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                  Quote: Korax71
                  No more taopin already

                  I don’t know. laughing In 2000, there was still.
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                    These were the remains of luxury laughing at that time even pigeons in a beer factory with chicken were wassat
            3. Kronos 18 March 2020 17: 13 New
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              The end of 90 default what fatty years?
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          Quote: kjhg
          We need to ask Putin how he chooses strategic partners for the country, that they throw us at the very first

          One must be friends with America, not be measured by eggs

          It’s not difficult, just give up your interests and go under their control
          1. Fan-fan 18 March 2020 17: 25 New
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            We just don’t know how to make friends, the Jews get it and America is milked to the fullest, but our shameful people cannot. Yes, some principles must be compromised. That it was impossible to agree with the USA on the division of zones of interests, I think it was possible, could not, the weaklings in power. Vaughn Stalin almost even agreed with Hitler, but also not completely, because he couldn’t “give up the principles,” but it’s a pity, Hitler offered to divide the spheres of influence. So we need to share the spheres of influence with the amers, but according to the possibilities, which they unfortunately have more so far.
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              We just don’t know how to make friends, the Jews get it and America is milked to the fullest ... Yes, we must give up some principles ...


              Perhaps what you offer is good for the Jews. Each nation has its own peculiarities and its own way, someone milks someone, someone fucks in the ass, someone cuts giauro, but this is hardly our way - to strive to be like someone, say, Jews. .
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              Did America offer friendship? They need vassals and not friends ... and here I understand them a little ... vassals will not allow themselves to be allowed by "friends"
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            Quote: Gost2012
            It’s not difficult, just give up your interests and go under their control

            some interests are interesting.
            1. Po-tzan 19 March 2020 02: 49 New
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              30 years later:

        3. cherkas.oe 18 March 2020 16: 35 New
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          Quote: atalef
          One must be friends with America, not be measured by eggs

          We have already tried them and your friendship - thanks.
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          Quote: atalef
          One must be friends with America, not be measured by eggs

          Such friends, for these and to the museum ... laughing
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      And then an ambush! What is it? Very big disappointment! We have no friends or comrades.

      There is
      Army, Navy and Assad.
      More Maduro wink
  • NICK111 18 March 2020 14: 18 New
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    A strange message. And why should China fall on the sanction rake for the sake of "some" Russia?
    They owe nothing to Russia.
    1. St Petrov 18 March 2020 14: 18 New
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      China has already hit. He is already under US sanctions
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        Quote: c-Petrov
        China has already hit. He is already under US sanctions

        Petrov, China and the United States will agree .. they are very dependent on each other, but China is more ..
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          As before, Beijing continues to operate, pursuing solely their own interests and not particularly reckoning with the global interests of that country, which it seems to position itself as friendly ...

          Colleague, I ask you to pay attention that Beijing acts in the interests of the country, while our country acts in the interests of Sechin.
          Siluanov, too, today, was “preoccupied” with a difficult situation for Russia, and yet he said this, about “got off the oil needle” ...
          In general, the fifth point in power greatly burns.
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            In general, the fifth point in power greatly burns.

            Yes, they are like water off a goose .. the fifth point among Russian citizens burns up ..
            In general, I agree .. everything is done with us in the interests of a narrow group of persons .. by prior agreement ..
            1. BREAKTHROUGH READY 18 March 2020 16: 22 New
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              everything is done with us in the interests of a narrow group of persons .. by prior agreement ..
              And in your so beloved China, isn’t this done?
              For some, the second place in the world in terms of the number of dollar billionaires and bureaucrats sold, and for others, a 14-hour working day, the absence of social guarantees and a "digital concentration camp."
          2. Tank hard 18 March 2020 18: 54 New
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            Colleague, I ask you to pay attention that Beijing acts in the interests of the country, and here our country acts in the interests of Sechin

            Have you been taken as the press secretary of the Chinese leadership? Brilliant career! laughing
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          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: c-Petrov
          China has already hit. He is already under US sanctions

          Petrov, China and the United States will agree .. they are very dependent on each other, but China is more ..

          Well, this is China and the USA. Why are you jumping for joy ?!
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            Quote: LMN
            Well, this is China and the USA. Why are you jumping for joy ?!

            And they who don’t ride have the Muscovite. They love Russia like that. wink
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    2. Paul 18 March 2020 14: 46 New
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      I think when we support for money the decision of the United States against China in any matter, then the Chinese will be deeply disappointed as partners with the Chinese. Not only friendship for money should not be sold, but strategic partnership also should not be based on money, but only on the principles of ensuring mutual existence and should not allow mutual parasitism. Conclusions: 1) China leaked us for money. 2) Losses from the state and companies of the ruling elite 3) the winner people will pay for this!
      1. Kronos 18 March 2020 15: 17 New
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        So Russia only offers business to everyone here, and nothing personal was done with it.
    3. atalef 18 March 2020 14: 55 New
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      Quote: NICK111
      A strange message. And why should China fall on the sanction rake for the sake of "some" Russia?
      They owe nothing to Russia.

      One of the few adequate comments.
  • Van 16 18 March 2020 14: 18 New
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    China has always been on its mind, and it has only one ally - China itself.
  • Kamchatsky 18 March 2020 14: 19 New
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    The Americans wiped their feet on China, and the Chinese also lick their boots. am How is that?
    1. donavi49 18 March 2020 14: 37 New
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      541,22 billion - turnover in 2019, which is 15% lower than in 2018.

      Who else can buy 500 billion a year from China? This is all the gold reserves of Russia for today, for example.

      For comparison, Russia was barely able to make 100 billion.

      They have no way out until other buyers for the same amount appear.
      1. Paul 18 March 2020 15: 13 New
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        They have no way out until other buyers for the same amount appear

        They say so on the panel - as soon as I find what I like I will immediately give up prostitution. I admit that the Chinese do not know what we thought they were friends with us. In this case, we ourselves are burdocks.

        In general, if we talk about who will buy the Chinese nishtyaks, we must understand that the most correct way is to stimulate our own consumption, then we won’t have to trade our conscience / sovereignty.
        1. military_cat 19 March 2020 23: 36 New
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          Does anyone, interestingly, understand why Russia now has to have it all? What kind of geopolitical interests were promoted in Venezuela, how successfully promoted, and do they compensate for the losses from sanctions for their promotion?
          1. Paul 20 March 2020 11: 53 New
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            I think in Venezuela there was a clumsy attempt to demonstrate the possibility of global rivalry with the United States - they say that we can spoil our lives qualitatively and we must be reckoned with. The thought came to someone the Bolshoi’s head; those who love the Bolshoi were eager to show their worth and to receive praise from him, i.e. the desire to bend overwhelmed common sense. In general, to be a plug in every hole is a sure way to losses, so all empires collapsed and the United States expects the same thing (maybe after 300 years - Rome, Byzantium also disappeared in less than 100 years).
    2. Greenwood 18 March 2020 14: 57 New
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      For many centuries, the Anglo-Saxons most of the world licks boots. They were able to crush almost the entire planet for themselves. What surprises you here ?!
  • Yrec 18 March 2020 14: 23 New
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    That's right: "Friendship is friendship, and tobacco is apart." It was not worth hoping for Chinese friendship initially, they would find oil and gas, we would sell them metal and wood anyway, but there wasn’t such a “partner” as the United States. Tomorrow the mattresses will tell the Chinese not to buy anything from us and they will agree. And the day after tomorrow Europe will be told not to buy gas from us, and they will also agree. And all these "pipes" that feed our oligarchs and built at our expense can be thrust into their fawn. And after a month we’ll go to vote “Putin - for the kingdom”. Well, Uncle Vova settled down - he cleaned up the political field completely, leaving only marginals, old-timers and imbitsilov in his “sparing partners”.
    1. St Petrov 18 March 2020 14: 27 New
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      Well, Uncle Vova settled down - he cleaned the political field clean


      wassat and in the United States decided who will be at the helm.

      PS How was the field cleared? Worthy candidates are sitting in the casemates? Blocked in YouTube by Putin’s personal order? Hanged in the backyard of the Kremlin?

      So he still cleaned out a candidate from the people, wrote him a speech, so that the Party of Rosta would be reset to zero. So Volodya is clearing the field? Like in the video below?

      Or are you sad about Khodorkovsky? Or who? What is the name of the stripped?

      Threw Grudinin gold in a Swiss bank?



      And in a month we’ll go to vote “Putin - for the kingdom”


      Well, you’ll go vryatli, but I’ll definitely marry you, I will make the right choice. 20 years already choose you

      1. Yrec 18 March 2020 14: 45 New
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        Well, that’s what I’m saying - magninals / starters / imbitsyly. And on the other hand, who is with Putin? The order-bearing Rothenberg, the omnipotent Sechin, Gref the Prophet, nanoChubais, GazoMiller and others, their name is Legion. Bowels to whom belong? Industry? S / x? Banking sector? Maybe to the people? Or them? Come on, come on, scream - Putin to the kingdom!
        1. St Petrov 18 March 2020 14: 47 New
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          Well, so I say

          cleaned up the political field

          on this topic. whom did Putin clean up? Why are you all so sad, the opposition?
          Do not Julia, tell me the stripping scheme

          Or who specializes in schemes here? Svarog is also silent

          1. Fan-fan 18 March 2020 17: 36 New
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            My friend, I’ll tell you how the government cleans the unwanted. Generala Rokhlin is simply killed. Grudinin was ruined, dragged through the courts and the state farm was taken from him. And if Grudinin and Rokhlin sang health resorts for power, they would still flourish.
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              Quote: Fan-Fan
              Genaral Rokhlin just killed

              General Rokhlin was killed in July 1998, no?

              Quote: Fan-Fan
              Grudinin is ruined, dragged through the courts and the state farm was taken from him

              Houdini is a blue thief Alchen, who for some reason climbed to the polls and brightly appeared in front of everyone. I wouldn’t climb - I would live in peace for myself, without standing out against the general gray background. There are many more.

              Quote: Fan-Fan
              And if only Grudinin and Rokhlin would sing health resorts for power ...

              Rokhlin and Grudinin have two different "authorities", mind you. And, yes - if my grandmother had Grudinin, then ... it's scary to even think belay laughing
            2. Tank hard 18 March 2020 19: 01 New
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              Quote: Fan-Fan
              My friend, I’ll tell you how the government cleans the unwanted. Generala Rokhlin is simply killed. Grudinin was ruined, dragged through the courts and the state farm was taken from him.

              Well yes. You together with your idol Navalny discussed this in 1917 on the Russian-Romanian border, apparently ... laughing
          2. Yrec 19 March 2020 09: 19 New
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            We carefully read: "I cleaned up the political field," I did not mention specific personalities, since there were none. Conditions were created under which the emergence of a united and constructive opposition with a clear ideology became unrealistic.
      2. Honest Citizen 18 March 2020 14: 50 New
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        Petrov, blocked the question with Golovan, now I will repeat it for you too.
        Tell me, because I do not really understand the legal intricacies laughing
        For the purpose of combating coronavirus, the government has banned more than 50 people from gathering indoors. But does this prohibition violate my feelings of a believer? laughing
        Those. Do not go to church? And will Rosguard fighters force church services to be dispersed, and how will the Patriarch react to this?
        Help make a legally competent protest. laughing laughing laughing
        1. St Petrov 18 March 2020 14: 51 New
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          as you endured for 20 years, you will tolerate as much as you need. drawing emoticons and humor is cool. but you know how to tolerate better
          Help make a legally competent protest.

          o - an oppositionist. b - bil.

          PS Golovan somehow reacted to this game? two hundred jokes? I thought not to react, but unlike everyone here, I know you by sight. Therefore, he answered - so I would have missed these sad jokes by

          1. Honest Citizen 18 March 2020 14: 53 New
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            Help me make a protest, and what can I do, I’ll figure it out without you laughing
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              Help me make a protest


              those. You weren’t 20 years old with the preparation of the protest, and you decided to cope with Petrov in 5 minutes?

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                1. St Petrov 18 March 2020 15: 01 New
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                  1. Siluanov said that the ruble is untied from oil?

                  quote come on. only complete with context. I did not hear.
                  Putin said he wouldn’t go on running?

                  Putin is a slave in galleys, as the people of Russia decide - so he will do
                  Putin said that we have a "sustainable economy"?

                  disprove it
                  About the import substitution program, and how far is it implemented, remind who spoke?

                  I told you, osil list of factories built over the year. They dumped it for me - then we will talk in detail.
                  Get off your pink palm tree.

                  it's you on your damp pink palm of protest that you are too long. relish your patience and whining for 20 years - this is truly a strong health must have

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      3. Steen 18 March 2020 21: 56 New
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        https://m.rosbalt.ru/russia/2020/03/18/1833415.html
        1. Steen 18 March 2020 22: 01 New
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          I imagine such a Stalin sits in his 30s and says: "we need to overcome the consequences of the Patriotic War of 1812." This is # common man!
    2. Kitty77 18 March 2020 14: 27 New
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      Your opinion is very important for us, come on, we still laugh at work
    3. Svarog 18 March 2020 14: 35 New
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      Quote: Yrec
      Well, Uncle Vova settled down - he cleaned up the political field completely, leaving only marginals, old-timers and imbitsilov in his “sparing partners”.

      About that and speech hi All the multi-way poured down ... everything is bursting at the seams .. but the latter is in a hurry and decided not to set his jurisdiction in the Constitution ..
      1. St Petrov 18 March 2020 14: 37 New
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        about. Svarog. Well, tell me how Putin cleared the unwanted.
        What are you talking about?

        How did Putin clean out a stern candidate Did a lot of blood spill? Casemates are bursting with worthy?

        Tell me about the struggle of your candidates
        1. Mordvin 3 18 March 2020 14: 56 New
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          Quote: c-Petrov
          how Putin cleared the unwanted.

          And how did he clean Ivashov? Or the late Limonov?
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            And how did he clean Ivashov? Or the late Limonov?


            laughing how?
            1. Mordvin 3 18 March 2020 15: 00 New
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              Quote: c-Petrov
              how?

              Yes, silently. Take an interest in yourself, here I’m not your assistant. Sit yourself and think about how Putin’s self-nominated man went to his apartments with his friends, collecting signatures.
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                you can't even find a job for yourself - strategist
                A mammoth from the 90s is sitting here, talking about the past.

                Who are you going to judge for the implementation of any plans?
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            2. Andy 18 March 2020 15: 03 New
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              https://www.rosbalt.ru/politrally/2011/12/29/930072.html
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          Quote: c-Petrov
          about. Svarog. Well, tell me how Putin cleared the unwanted.
          What are you talking about?

          How did Putin clean out a stern candidate Did a lot of blood spill? Casemates are bursting with worthy?

          Tell me about the struggle of your candidates

          Once upon him.
          Man’s joy, don’t you understand?
          1. Golovan Jack 18 March 2020 18: 22 New
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            Quote: LMN
            Man’s joy, don’t you understand?

            Yes, sometimes it’s surprising - how little other “squabbles” need for joy ... but in the meantime - the house is not worthy, the son is not planted, and even the cow viruses laughing
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        4. Andy 18 March 2020 15: 01 New
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          and the cherry on the cake last paragraph
          "He also said that he intends to appeal to the Constitutional Court about a violation of his constitutional rights during the nomination as president of the Russian Federation. At the same time, he does not have much hope for a court decision in his favor." Our courts are no better than the Central Election Commission, " considers Ivashov. "
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            Choose Ivashov as the president of your reality
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          2. Andy 19 March 2020 11: 44 New
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            Repeat of the remote start of the article- The basis for the decision on the refusal was the failure to notify Ivashov of the CEC of the Russian Federation within the prescribed period about holding a meeting of the initiative group.

            Colonel General Leonid Ivashov himself is convinced that the decision to “reject” him from among the presidential candidates was made at the level of the presidents of the Russian Federation and the USA, Dmitry Medvedev and Barack Obama. He stated this to Rosbalt on December 19, commenting on the refusal of the Central Election Commission to register.

            According to the general, formally, the CEC found fault with the fact that his statement did not have a date. Meanwhile, as Ivashov assures, "the law does not say anywhere that the CEC must be notified of self-nomination in writing." In addition, he said, the CEC found fault with the fact that the meeting on his nomination began a few hours ahead of schedule.

            In fact, according to Ivashov, the decision to “reject” him from among the presidential candidates was made at a different level. He recalled the negative reaction to his nomination by the US State Department. "The reaction was such that I was not a desirable figure for America, because I will raise the issue of equal cooperation between Russia and the United States," he said.

            Ivashov is sure that the authorities were frightened by "too much support" of his candidacy. “We didn’t even have time to process appeals to me,” he said. "There was tremendous support from the Communists from the field," Ivashov added.
            https://www.rosbalt.ru/politrally/2011/12/29/930072.html
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        All the multi-way poured down ... everything is bursting at the seams .. but the latter is in a hurry and decided not to set his jurisdiction in the Constitution ..

        Klyuchiki already prepared deliverers from the "damned regime" to meet? Ah, sorog? They broke the Union, now you criticize those whom you yourself have brought, in due time, to the communist slogans!
  • Odysseus 18 March 2020 14: 26 New
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    The situation is brilliant. Oil-28, the dollar is already 78, Euro -86. RTS has fallen to a minimum since 2016.
    In Moscow, panic, there are no groups in the shops, pasta, buying up matches, toilet paper, etc.
    Everything is fine, we are falling. smile
    1. Aleksandr1971 18 March 2020 14: 29 New
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      China is just buying the cheaper oil.
      Gref says oil will be $ 20US and $ 100 a dollar. As they say, everything that is done is all for the better .....
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        Gref says oil will be $ 20US and $ 100 a dollar. As they say, everything that is done is all for the better .....

        This is a bust, the situation is difficult, but not so. I see no reason for such a catastrophic scenario .. Although ... Our authorities are capable of much laughing For example, a panic in Moscow was provoked by the statements of Mr. Putin that there was no need to purchase food and the refutation of information about the complete closure of the city.
        The people hearing this, of course, rushed to sweep everything off the shelves.
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          For example, statements in Mr. Putin provoked a panic in Moscow

          wassat Russian opposition as usual. sad sight.
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          Quote: Odyssey
          For example, the panic in Moscow was provoked by the statements of Mr. Putin that there was no need to purchase food and the refutation of information about the complete closure of the city

          Yeah. The wind is blowing because the trees are swinging.

          If some media outlets didn’t throw in the fried - like “They’ll close Moscow,” there would be nothing to refute, wouldn’t it? wink

          Quote: Odyssey
          The people hearing this, of course, rushed to sweep everything off the shelves

          Well, woodpeckers. In a week, the maximum is all over, IMHO. Nothing. But the wholesalers will sell the stale goods. Something like this.
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            If some media outlets didn’t throw in the fried - like “They’ll close Moscow,” there would be nothing to refute, wouldn’t it?

            Yes it is. But the problem is that people heard exactly the authorities, and not these media. I ask, why are you rushing to buy everything. The answer is that they heard that Putin / Sobyanin said that they would not close Moscow and did not need to buy anything. What if they will be? The authorities are lying to us all the time. Prices are rising, we still have to buy everything.
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Well, woodpeckers. In a week, the maximum is all over, IMHO. Nothing. But the wholesalers will sell the stale goods. Something like this.

            And here, by the way, I agree. I discourage people from panic.
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              Quote: Odyssey
              The answer is that they heard that Putin / Sobyanin says that they will not close Moscow and do not need to buy anything. What if they will be?

              1. The frightened crow of a bush is afraid.
              2. Having burned themselves in milk, they blow vodka (c) "Ugryum-Reka", Shishkov.
              3. Fools do not sow, do not reap - they themselves grow.

              I can bring a dozen more. Boring it, gentlemen, comrades request
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            Well, woodpeckers

            Offended and minus ... laughing
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            With products - yes, the currency will remain so. Accordingly, prices will change in plus.
            It has been so many times
            Woodpeckers and alarmists, fact.
            With roads in the Moscow region of norms, our second problem is not eradicated.
    2. St Petrov 18 March 2020 14: 34 New
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      Oil-28, the dollar is already 78, Euro -86. RTS has fallen to a minimum since 2016.
      Everything is fine, we are falling.


      As you know, just painfully. Yesterday I looked at such a sobbing - he carried the same thing and smiled. I think I painted a few smiles, few.



      PS It is necessary to give the Crimea, the sanctions will be removed, the Odyssey will rejoice at the dollar at 25

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        It turns out that student Petrov draws smart thoughts from a zomboyaschik.
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          It turns out where student Petrov draws smart thoughts from a zomboyaschik

          Well, not like you, right from the bulk. laughing
    3. Qwertyarion 18 March 2020 14: 41 New
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      Quote: Odyssey
      In Moscow, panic, there are no groups in the shops, pasta, buying up matches, toilet paper, etc.
      It's alright, falling

      Yesterday, I saw the grandmother at the checkout counter in the store when she laid out the goods to the cashier, the first impression is that the grandmother was going on a hike, for a month, there was one dry bed, a mountain ...
      Panic is bad and expensive.
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        Panic is bad and expensive.

        Moreover, this creates an ideal environment for the coronavirus itself, against which restriction measures were directed. Moreover, in the most vulnerable category - the elderly.
        Only a large network business benefits.
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          Moreover, this creates an ideal environment for the coronavirus itself, against which restriction measures were directed.

          Wear a mask?
      2. Snail N9 18 March 2020 15: 01 New
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        I don’t understand, why do they buy toilet paper in such quantities? according to an old habit, since the "Soviet" times? I have so much advertising waste paper from the mailbox that falls out every day, that I don’t need toilet paper either — you can use this waste paper. In general, it’s more useful to wash your ass with cold water, as Muslims and those from the south do.
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          I don’t understand, why do they buy toilet paper in such quantities?

          At my work today, the men shift workers dragged two bags of sugar ...! I asked: why so much ?! They are standing, looking at me and smiling stupidly. They say tea. I was not funny ....
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          I don’t understand, why do they buy toilet paper in such quantities?

          Probably in order to wipe his hands
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            It is unlikely that “wipe hands” - by the way, about “wipe hands” —Yesterday the whole area was in search of a disinfecting gel just for the “wipe hands” (really necessary thing), as well as disposable gloves (made from cellophane) —nothing anywhere! Neither in pharmacies, nor in Lemur, nor in Okey, Carousel, etc. And these things are really necessary, now! request Well, sugar .... I always stock up with sugar and just sack it, boil it ..... "tea" in the country, I have a wonderful "tea machine" there. wink
          2. Tank hard 18 March 2020 22: 27 New
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            Probably in order to wipe his hands

            Yeah, you have it antiseptic. laughing
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          Quote: Snail N9
          I don’t understand, why do they buy toilet paper in such quantities?

          There are no rational explanations. This is just panic, it has its own laws and is much more contagious than the coronavirus.
          I’ve been working as a free psychotherapist for two days, telling everyone that everything will be fine and that you don’t need to go shopping buying the last cereals and eggs smile
          1. Tank hard 18 March 2020 22: 28 New
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            There are no rational explanations.

            Why, there is, but they are unprintable, the moderator will ban. laughing
        4. Nastia makarova 18 March 2020 15: 54 New
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          one sneezed on the street and 100 crap one's pants so paper is needed
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            one sneezed on the street and 100 crap one's pants so paper is needed

            Cons, they say that it’s not 100 yet, while 8. hi laughing
            1. Nastia makarova 19 March 2020 06: 47 New
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              miners
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          And in Europe, paper is also rowed according to the "Soviet habit"?)
    4. Nastia makarova 18 March 2020 15: 52 New
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      if people then no one will help, let everyone buy it then they will take it out to the trash
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        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        if people then no one will help, let everyone buy it then they will take it out to the trash

        Then again Putin will be to blame for them. laughing
        1. Nastia makarova 19 March 2020 06: 49 New
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          idiots are always someone to blame
  • Paul Siebert 18 March 2020 14: 28 New
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    A wise Chinese monkey descended from a tree.
    And while the tiger and dragon, clinging to each other, rolled on the ground, picked up a bunch of delicious bananas ... laughing
  • knn54 18 March 2020 14: 28 New
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    Consumer goods can be bought not only in China.
    Yes, Russian oil is 26 cu per barrel, and for Saudis-20.
    But the "services" of tankers have risen in price several times. We will watch.
    By the way, the Saudis are one of the sponsors of the Uyghur separatists.
  • A.TOR 18 March 2020 14: 28 New
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    America and its possibilities - all sorts of things - must be used, and not butted with it. Imagine a refrigerator that generates products that is worth and can be used. As "everyone who is not lazy" does it.
    But some - "especially smart" - say that they are, de, the same "refrigerator, only better."
    However, a closer look by opening the door shows a significant difference in assortment
  • rocket757 18 March 2020 14: 31 New
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    Russia has always had only two faithful allies ... someone doubts this ???
    The fact that our goats are not responsible, and not ours, to be honest, the "servants of the people" will hide Navo about everything that they found there in the same place, puts an end to all, even the ephemeral hopes, of MANY who still believe those that are at the top nestled.
    They didn’t like the Soviet regime \ hated BUT RESPECTED !!! Because the people respected and loved their country, they were ready to roll the Bosko for it.
    Schaub was not chatted there, anywhere, now, top, ne is respected by NOBODY, but they look at us like .......
    1. A.TOR 18 March 2020 14: 39 New
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      Yes, they didn’t love / hate, although you exaggerate slightly ...
      As a result, now the "0" allies, friends are also not particularly ... You need to think about the future in advance
      1. rocket757 18 March 2020 14: 52 New
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        Yes, they didn’t love / hate, although you exaggerate slightly ...

        I just didn’t ... smear porridge on a plate. There were countries where the Great Country of Soviets was sincerely loved and respected.
        Enemies hated, and there were many of them.
        Respected! Because our people respected themselves FORCED EVERYONE.
        1. savage1976 18 March 2020 15: 09 New
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          Yeah, that’s respected from under the stick. Now we see the price of such respect.
        2. A.TOR 18 March 2020 15: 17 New
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          The “sincerely” country of the Soviets was loved either by very poor people from very poor countries (from which it’s worthless if there is no raw material) or any ambitious criminals who became presidents and whom the USSR supported with money and weapons.
          As for respect, in countries only very far from the USSR, and even when they remembered reading in the newspapers about Gagarin and so on.
          But the neighbors were afraid. And in general - to force RESPECT as you pathetically write is impossible. You can only make fear.
          Yes, sometimes some strong guys in the yard take this for respect. It happens.
          1. Maverick78 19 March 2020 00: 56 New
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            Can I have a recipe for respect? How to do it?
            1. rocket757 19 March 2020 06: 32 New
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              My uncle is the most honest rules,
              When not a joke fell ill,
              He respected himself forced
              And he could not have invented it better.
              His example is the other science;
              But oh my god, what a bore.

              Pushkin

              If people do not know their story and do not understand what is
              our people respect themselves MADE ALL.
              it's not about power, not about any
              “The first sign of an intelligent person is to know at first glance who you are dealing with and not toss the beads in front of the Repetilovs and the like” Pushkin
            2. A.TOR 19 March 2020 18: 43 New
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              It’s good for ourselves to live, to work hard, to make our country comfortable for life. Become an example.
    2. Ovrag 18 March 2020 14: 59 New
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      Are these two allies who, at 17 and then at 91, successfully rolled the whole country? Changing epaulettes for Mercedes. I then served in the zero. And I know how they sold everything and continue to sell. Zips, from storage, that's all. Ensigns, double basses, generals, all with a fussy deal.
    3. Honest Citizen 18 March 2020 15: 11 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      present, top, ne respects NOBODY

      Well what are you. Vaughn Petrov, Golovan - still throats "for Putin".
      1. Tank hard 18 March 2020 22: 32 New
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        Well what are you. Vaughn Petrov, Golovan - still throats "for Putin".

        No, it's against you. wink
        1. Golovan Jack 18 March 2020 22: 35 New
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          No, it's against you

          Tank, hi

          Spit. Specifically, with this program - it is better not to cling, it is annoying and pestering. Intelligence is about half a grid somewhere, but importunity is an order of magnitude higher. Even me - a little tired, do not believe laughing
          1. Tank hard 18 March 2020 22: 38 New
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            Spit. Specifically, with this program - it’s better not to aim, it is annoying and pestering. Intelligence is about half a grid somewhere, but importunity is an order of magnitude higher. Even me - a little tired, do not believe

            hi Jack, I’m singing a voice with offended! Raise your mood. good
            1. Golovan Jack 18 March 2020 22: 42 New
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              Quote: Tank Hard
              Increase mood

              Not without it, you just need to carefully dose it at the reception: if you even try a little bit, it wildly pours out laughing
              1. Tank hard 18 March 2020 22: 44 New
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                Not without it, you just need to carefully dose it at the reception: if at least a little bit to sort out - wildly piss out

                No, the "victims" only amuse. hi
  • Mimohod 18 March 2020 14: 34 New
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    however, it is alarming that the obligation stipulated in the trade agreement with the United States to sharply increase purchases of American LNG there seems to be strictly observed, to the detriment of the supply of our gas.
    Yes, Russia needs to maneuver as much as possible without bending between the USA and China and play on their contradictions and without creating illusions to strengthen its defense against the PRC, which has the largest land army in the world, and keep the gunpowder dry with such friends.
    1. Ptolemy Lag 18 March 2020 14: 55 New
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      China is building a missile defense system ...
    2. Fan-fan 18 March 2020 17: 51 New
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      So I think that the border with China is long, and our troops there are very few. Has Putin really relied so much on friendship with them? The Chinese have the opposite, in the north the bulk of the troops.
      1. Tank hard 18 March 2020 22: 34 New
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        So I think that the border with China is long, and our troops there are very few

        Here you are and become a cordon, and it’s useless for you to think ... repeat laughing
  • Neutron Retarded 18 March 2020 14: 45 New
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    Yes, spit. Oil was, is and will be a highly liquid commodity. In the literal sense of "black gold". Humanity, like this, at the same time, will not refuse it in the foreseeable future. No need for China, no need. Sell ​​elsewhere. Price failure is not for long. Shale in the United States will die faster than Sechin feels difficulty. Well, China gives us the right to act in the mirror in the future.
    1. fleks 18 March 2020 16: 46 New
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      Sorry, I didn’t recognize you in makeup. Are you Sechin. Alikperov. Miller or yourself ...?
    2. Fan-fan 18 March 2020 17: 54 New
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      Sell ​​elsewhere.

      In which other? Do you think the turn is behind our oil? Although Belarusians would have bought a little if Putin had sold them at a price no higher than the Chinese.
      1. Sailor 18 March 2020 21: 13 New
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        This is something that is not clear, they made a 40% discount on gas to corrupt Bulgarians, and we tear our skin from fraternal Belarus.
    3. Tank hard 18 March 2020 22: 35 New
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      Yes, spit. Oil was, is and will be a highly liquid commodity. In the literal sense of "black gold". Humanity, like this, at the same time, will not refuse it in the foreseeable future. No need for China, no need. Sell ​​elsewhere. Price failure is not for long. Shale in the United States will die faster than Sechin feels difficulty. Well, China gives us the right to act in the mirror in the future.

      You are right, but judging by the minuses, the "intellectuals" are against. laughing
  • Sailor 18 March 2020 14: 46 New
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    The first rat ran out of a sinking ship called Russia.
    1. savage1976 18 March 2020 15: 10 New
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      Are you going to run far?
      1. Sailor 18 March 2020 21: 05 New
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        I do not know, ask the PRC.
  • To be or not to be 18 March 2020 14: 47 New
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    "China entered the oil war on the side of Russia's opponents"
    The dragon put its tail into the oil barrel to which they brought a burning torch ..
  • Klingon 18 March 2020 14: 49 New
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    Hanirik slippers and fur coats to import - under the ban and continue to smile always and to all Chinese

    whoever wanted not with a small spoon - here you can draw power with large spoons. raw superpower

    and all Chinese comrades legally and illegally living / doing business in the Russian Federation politely but strictly ask for a way out))
    1. Mordvin 3 18 March 2020 15: 13 New
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      Quote: Klingon
      and all Chinese comrades legally and illegally living / doing business in the Russian Federation politely but strictly ask for a way out))

      And we get a bunch more unemployed from Chinese factories.
  • Ovrag 18 March 2020 14: 50 New
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    The Chinese are acting in their own interests. Well, just something incredible and unexpected. And why the Chinese strong Russia? What would compete in the Far East? For influence in Central Asia?
  • Klingon 18 March 2020 14: 51 New
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    probably worth Taiwan to somehow support, maybe the S-400 Taiwan sell ah? something in Beijing burns with someone in one place
  • sleeve 18 March 2020 14: 52 New
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    Well ... Not everything is so creepy. There is an operational maneuver. The short-term agreements will be fulfilled scrupulously, since it is not worth angering the largest consumer and acting out in the future as with us, knowing in advance how we will relate to China in the short term. In addition, there will be an expansion of applications for a processed product, which by the way will slap us with a shortage of these very products. But this is not particularly long and yes it is conjuncture. Until the Chinese economy finds an acceptable form of self-realization, one must endure it. The Chinese dragon has many leashes. But this situation does not apply to the Venezuelan epic. There, we not only Sasch, but also China stepped on a corn, butting for the largest oil field in the world. And then let's endure. This is not even a business, this is politics. And in the long.
  • Dmitry Zverev 18 March 2020 14: 54 New
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    If our oil complex begins to bend, it can be easily and bloodlessly nationalized. This is a great plan. Thanks to the Chinese comrades.
  • Sibguest 18 March 2020 14: 58 New
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    Hello everyone (adequate, not very, very narrow ...).
    Let me ask: what now - tomorrow the sun will not rise?
    China has long proved that it is even more afraid of shouting the Yankees completely lost their shores than our Russian oligarchs and “honest” deputies - because the United States for China is market number 1, 2, and ....
    I am sure of one thing (I survived in the 90s, after 2008 I will survive now): Russia NEVER bent before anyone and NEVER walked in anyone yoke (look at Mongolia - what it has become ...) .
    We will stand now. Petro-Bedouins let them spoil the air with their threats. The Yankees will soon drown in their problems (sorry of course adequate people).
    China, all the same, will soon soon knock on the door (as if nothing had happened - these are Asians) with a proposal of friendship and a request to sell oil and gas.
    IF WE NOW LOWER HANDS, WE WILL LONG LENGTH FAST. WORK BROTHERS!
    1. Kronos 18 March 2020 15: 32 New
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      Hello, we have been under the yoke of liberalism since the 90s.
    2. Snail N9 18 March 2020 15: 49 New
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      (survived in the 90s, after 2008 and will survive now)

      As for survival ... Even in 2008, at the helm there were still such professional “bison” in economics and finance as Primakov, Maslyukov, Gerashchenko — they pulled that “crisis” on their hump. And now, the field from the "professionals" is cleared to zero for nuts, nabiulins, mishustins with unkillable chabaises, curls and grefs .... even, I'm afraid to think where they will "get" ...... winked
    3. fleks 18 March 2020 16: 43 New
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      And who do you work for. Brother?
    4. TAMBU 18 March 2020 17: 11 New
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      Russia NEVER bent before anyone and NEVER walked in anyone's yoke

      You should read books about history or something ... here’s a hint to you: Horde and Poles ... if it’s about external enemies, but about internal enemies it’s too early for you) good luck in learning new knowledge.
  • iouris 18 March 2020 15: 01 New
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    And why should China help someone? In the war, everyone is for himself. And for a short-sighted policy you have to pay, at least to someone.
  • Zaurbek 18 March 2020 15: 08 New
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    So the state can prohibit in response that something is Chinese. And replace with Taiwanese or Korean.
  • rudolff 18 March 2020 15: 11 New
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    Why roll barrels to China if our own companies, banks of the same Crimea circumvent distant lands for fear of sanctions. It’s time to get used to the fact that money rules the world.
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  • Andrey.AN 18 March 2020 15: 16 New
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    All this documentation was written with a pitchfork on water, perhaps China in this segment has friction with the Russian Federation, on the basis of the fact that they covered the border quite roughly, grind it rough to thin and pass. Although of course it is likely that the Chinese are worried about the prospects for cooperation, they can be bothered by anything, but if they are worthy of an offer they will accept it. Honestly, with the exception of the oil industry, no one is pushing us to drain the resource.
  • Morgan 18 March 2020 15: 18 New
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    "but completely unfriendly towards Russia" - and who said that China is a friendly country? It never has been and never will be, information for friendship and cooperation for "Cheers of Patriots" - Schaub proud. China takes into account its own interests and Russia is not included in its plans, at least today.
    And about oil - it wasn’t necessary to quarrel with the Arabs, the multiple passage failed, it was time to admit and slurp the shit with a strainer. "
  • A.K. 18 March 2020 15: 30 New
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    Under intergovernmental contracts, China is obliged to purchase 30 million tons of oil from the Russian Federation and 20-30 under other contracts, and purchases are reduced under them because of the decline in industrial production in China due to the coronavirus epidemic. Everything is temporarily gradually restored, so no panic is needed.
  • vladnp 18 March 2020 15: 32 New
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    why did everyone rush to China and not to Sechin, for example?
    1. Andrey.AN 18 March 2020 15: 37 New
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      And what did Sechin not please you, he seems to be competent enough, probably even will give odds to many colleagues?
      1. vladnp 18 March 2020 15: 39 New
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        And who is Sechkin? Literate!
        1. Andrey.AN 18 March 2020 15: 41 New
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          I understood you as if you were talking about the head of the board of directors of Rosneft.
          1. vladnp 18 March 2020 15: 42 New
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            And what advice do you make so that I understand with whom to conduct a dialogue?
            1. Andrey.AN 18 March 2020 15: 45 New
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              if you’re talking about my typo, you corrected it, now it’s your turn, what did he not please you with?
              1. vladnp 18 March 2020 15: 45 New
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                I did not answer the question
                1. Andrey.AN 18 March 2020 15: 49 New
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                  Well, yes, you didn’t answer why he didn’t please you, put it on a typo (fixed), then change the subject with another question (I answer - I’m not a member, I wasn’t, I’m not going to be a member of a cooperative yet), can you answer?
                  1. vladnp 18 March 2020 15: 54 New
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                    Sechin’s stinginess directly affected oil prices. And what is his competence?
                    Oil has fallen in price, gasoline has risen in price. This is competency. Constantly beg for subsidies, also competence?
                    1. Andrey.AN 18 March 2020 16: 11 New
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                      I understand that the stinginess of the person in charge causes a negative, this is normal, but Sechin does not seem to be an impostor, if he is stingy, it’s like “I work this way, I do not like it, replace it”.
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                        An exchange of views took place. Bye
                      2. Andrey.AN 18 March 2020 16: 23 New
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                        I didn’t hear your opinion, only stupid cliches without basics, can you justify it?
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                        What Sechin is not satisfied with the points of Vladimir?
                        I didn’t hear your opinion, only stupid cliches without basics, can you justify it?

                        can answer me. Now let's look at the oppositionist thought
  • Peter is not the first 18 March 2020 15: 47 New
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    But does anyone in Russia have a conviction that we have friends abroad?
  • 16112014nk 18 March 2020 16: 22 New
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    IIS and GDP wanted the best, but it turned out as always.
    Incompetence and unsuitability rule.
  • Karaul73 18 March 2020 16: 24 New
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    Quote: Qwertyarion
    . categorically rejected the possibility of accepting any cargo in one way or another connected with the Russian company Rosneft, in respect of some units of which US sanctions should come into force in May.

    If the sale of oil under sanctions fails, it will be very bad for the budget .... and the budget is salaries and pensions
    . China, apparently, didn’t take the Russian side,

    Nothing personal just business.

    Oil, like gas, is just a commodity. Specific, but product. Each consumer has his own shirt closer. Did you expect support from China? It will not be this. Everyone is sitting and waiting like jackals when Russia is finally weakened in order to cling to and snatch a piece of its former greatness.
  • V1er 18 March 2020 16: 25 New
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    Two things became apparent. The USA applied Iran’s tactics to Russia (to forbid everyone to buy goods from Russia: oil, weapons, metals, equipment, resources). And the Dragon (China) showed a grin. He is preparing to bite off a piece from a dying bear, they gave us a clear understanding of this. We have three friends, an army, a navy, and nuclear weapons.
    1. Fan-fan 18 March 2020 18: 00 New
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      We need to have one more friend desperately, without which it would be very tight - a powerful economy.
  • Jack O'Neill 18 March 2020 16: 26 New
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    The Chinese brothers forgot about us again ...
    This has never happened before, and here again!

    .
  • fleks 18 March 2020 16: 38 New
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    Quote: c-Petrov
    Well, so I say

    cleaned up the political field

    on this topic. whom did Putin clean up? Why are you all so sad, the opposition?
    Do not Julia, tell me the stripping scheme

    Or who specializes in schemes here? Svarog is also silent

    Sergeant Petrov. You are about Nemtsov. Have you heard anything, or again, pretend to be a fool?
    1. St Petrov 18 March 2020 16: 55 New
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      you about Nemtsov. have you heard anything


      this example is even sadder than stripped sternum
      will there be more attempts?

      are there not clowns on our list of miracle opposition? Nemtsov laughing

      or again, foolish pretense pretend?

      it wrote to me that raised the topic of Nemtsov. smile

      Cleared field wassat Nemtsov wassat If not for his murder, his local circus would have clearly chosen the president

      Well, on the other hand, if not the sternum, then the Germans. Yes.
      1. fleks 18 March 2020 17: 44 New
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        Miracle. Do you understand what you’re writing? Are they paying you for the number of characters? It painfully prolific and all answers are perpendicular, snowstorm in one word
      2. Fan-fan 18 March 2020 18: 02 New
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        Although Nemtsov roamed around the embassies, hobnobed with the Anglo-Saxons, he was not afraid to speak the truth in the face of the authorities. But he did not pull on the opposition leader.
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      Quote: fleks
      Sergeant Petrov. You are about Nemtsov. Have you heard anything, or again, pretend to be a fool?

      finally your camarilla, impersonating itself here as the Communists, according to the same communist ideology, should have acted with the Germans as it happened in reality ... so you chose an unsuccessful example !! wink wassat
  • honest people 18 March 2020 16: 44 New
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    The Kremlin boats will have nothing to pay. At least one plus.

    Six pieces of Kremlin boats put a minus probably think that the owner will not leave them! laughing
  • Zabvo 18 March 2020 16: 46 New
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    A country cannot have enemies or friends; a country must have interests.
  • cherkas.oe 18 March 2020 16: 49 New
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    Beijing continues to act, pursuing exclusively its own interests and not particularly reckoning with the global interests of that country, which it seems to position as friendly ...
    Who would have thought that China, a strategic partner and ally, would wipe our feet so cynically too? So in vain the great Pu fought in the gums with Uncle X.
    1. rotkiv04 18 March 2020 17: 04 New
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      And this is not the first time for him, he is now a peacemaker, you will listen so straightforward to the philosopher in a barrel, and all that he knows and they all look into his mouth, a little more and the reincarnation of Leonid Ilyich
  • kiborg 18 March 2020 17: 01 New
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    So 47% of pipeline oil at a price of 65 bucks per barrel is about 20 billion greens. In general, not a lot. So maybe it’s good that they refused, especially since oil fell in price by half ...
    Their consumers will get more. Americans are buying on the contrary, since prices have fallen. And they save their stocks. We strive to sell the latter, even for a penny. And at the same time they manage to put themselves in the role of grave diggers of the American shale economy ...
    And gasoline in Russia has risen in price despite the drop in oil prices. At the same time, in the USA it continues to become cheaper ..
    Well, where does China come from ???
    1. www3 19 March 2020 11: 27 New
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      how and with?
      and who will we do to blame?))
  • rotkiv04 18 March 2020 17: 01 New
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    And these are not even partners, they are almost Putin’s friends.
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    Russia's loss of the Celestial market will be more than a painful blow for the domestic oil industry.

    It would be good to lose other energy markets.
    And still get rid of the green paper, reviving the independent financial and investment system.
    To begin with, to begin the revival of industrial production.
    1. Golovan Jack 18 March 2020 17: 40 New
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      Quote: NordUral
      It would be nice to lose the remaining energy markets

      You will have nothing to eat, my friend, even with the loss of half of these request
      1. Leshy1975 18 March 2020 18: 41 New
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        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Quote: NordUral
        It would be nice to lose the remaining energy markets

        You will have nothing to eat, my friend, even with the loss of half of these request

        I goof off myself, Kees. You will not believe, for this your statement of reality, I have set you +. Now, if you make a little more effort on yourself and figure out what awaits the country (RF) ahead in the conditions of the oil war, you will get ++ from me. Well, if you even think about it and guess who brought us there (hint, loves the expression - there is no time to swing), then all three of +++ will come from me.
        1. Golovan Jack 18 March 2020 18: 50 New
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          I goof off myself, Kees. You will not believe, for this your statement of reality, I put you +

          Friends, who are you talking to there right now? I mean that you write it to me ... for some reason.

          Be careful, buddies. Careful ... yes
      2. Roman12345678 20 March 2020 09: 13 New
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        The faster the desperate people take up the pitchfork, the faster it will all end ..
  • TAMBU 18 March 2020 17: 07 New
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    As before, Beijing continues to act, pursuing exclusively its own interests and not particularly reckoning with the global interests of that country, which it seems to position as friendly ...


    Word for word can be repeated about the Russian Federation ...
    1. voodoo123 18 March 2020 17: 22 New
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      Like about any country
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        closer to me than "any other" =)
  • voodoo123 18 March 2020 17: 21 New
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    China is the harbinger of the apocalypse.
  • Naughty 18 March 2020 17: 22 New
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    As it became known, the Chinese state oil company Sinochem Corp., which is one of the largest importers of energy resources there, categorically rejected the possibility of accepting any goods that are somehow related to the Russian company Rosneft, in respect of some of which its sanctions should come into force in May USA.

    Key phrase As it became known, Who knows the author of the article? So maybe he dreamed it. In general, fake and complete nonsense Not a single fact But just phrases So any lover of the epistolary genre can write anything. But to pay tribute to the author of the article, he got to the very point of 183 comments (my 184) lol
  • Klingon 18 March 2020 17: 29 New
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    Quote: mordvin xnumx
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    and all Chinese comrades legally and illegally living / doing business in the Russian Federation politely but strictly ask for a way out))

    And we get a bunch more unemployed from Chinese factories.

    well, support the Chinese, give them half of Siberia, if you want it
    1. Mordvin 3 18 March 2020 18: 31 New
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      Quote: Klingon
      well, support the Chinese, give them half of Siberia, if you want it

      And it is not I who support them, it is our rulers who support them, whispering the magic word "investment". And they, sitting on bags of gold, are more likely to give half of Siberia to China under these investments.
  • Catfish 18 March 2020 17: 32 New
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    Alas, the Chinese comrades are once again demonstrating that it would be frivolous and dangerous to consider them as Russia's “allies”.


    What is said more than once or twice on our site by a variety of people.
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      Quote: Sea Cat
      What has been said on our site more than once or twice

      Oh how! So this is your site, it turns out? belay

      Quote: Sea Cat
      What is said more than once or twice on our site by a variety of people

      It’s nice, sometimes, to feel very best. Only the smallest detail interferes with the most intelligent, perspicacious, overwhelmed by such things ... only one little detail: “at the top” no one ever called the Chinese “allies”. Yes, and did not think, in general. And that they are partners - and in the USA too - "partners" laughing

      So, my friend, your meaningful squint is canceled - it's about nothing. As usual with you, however yes

      Past the box office, man request
  • seacap 18 March 2020 19: 14 New
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    And who said that this is our ally? They don’t think so and for a long time, the partner in some issues yes, but no more. They are quite justifiable, they consider us traitors and revisionists, respectively, they treat them as such, and why not, when we ourselves and with our own hands destroy it, when we have everything literally for sale, country, honor and conscience. What attitude they deserved, as corrupt and hypocritical, ready to destroy each other, their country, their resources, they got it all over the world, they treat us everywhere, they don’t beat us right away.
  • parusnik 18 March 2020 19: 40 New
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    As Mao Zedong used to say: While two tigers are fighting in the valley, a smart monkey sits on a tree and simply waits for both tigers to weaken each other, after which the monkey will become a winner. So China does and skins both from the USA and Russia ... I like, after work, having arrived home, on Lada Vesta, owned by the French company Citroën, open the refrigerator of the German company Bosch, get a bottle of Coca-Cola, open the American search engine Google on a Chinese laptop, and tweet something patriotic about the economy USA, China, EEC will be bummed soon ... laughing
  • Dimmedroll 18 March 2020 20: 09 New
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    Everyone wants to live. So they spin as they can. Just the Arabs suggested, quite cheaply. And there is nothing to worry about.
  • Fevralsk. Morev 18 March 2020 20: 12 New
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    Platoshkin warned about China. There is a video of his speech on YouTube. And now, what is Putin's next breakthrough? Thrown like suckers.