Indonesia Su-35 fighter supply contract suspended


The contract for the supply of Indonesia to Russian Su-35 fighters is not broken. This was reported by "Vedomosti" with reference to two sources in the aircraft industry.


According to the publication, the contact made by Jakarta and Moscow for the supply of eleven Su-35 fighters was not terminated. According to newspaper sources, Russia did not receive official notice of the break in the agreement. However, as one of the interlocutors of the publication admitted, "the contract has suspended." One of the reasons for the impossibility of implementing the agreement is the need for additional approvals regarding financing of the transaction. At the same time, sources do not exclude further US pressure to disrupt this deal.

The director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, Dmitry Shugaev, also stated that there was no official notice of the break in the transaction. According to him, Indonesia is not going to refuse to acquire Russian Su-35 multi-functional fighters.

There is no official refusal, no one sent us any papers on this score and did not verbally report, so I think this is poorly verified information. We hope that this contract will be implemented, especially since Indonesia is interested in acquiring this machine

- he said.

Recall that the contract for the acquisition by Indonesia of 11 Su-35 fighters was signed on February 14, 2018 in Jakarta. The contract value is $ 1,154 billion, of which 50% ($ 570 million) is covered by counter deliveries of Indonesian goods (which actually should not have been delivered to Russia, but sold on the international market).

Earlier, Bloomberg, citing sources in the US White House administration, reported that Indonesia refused to purchase Russian Su-35 fighters. The reason for this was called American pressure and the threat of sanctions against Jakarta.
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  1. Mavrikiy 17 March 2020 12: 51 New
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    Indonesia Su-35 fighter supply contract suspended
    Sorry. And Amer, it's time to cut something so that they do not pop into all the cracks.
  2. alex aircraft 17 March 2020 12: 59 New
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    Again, give palm oil ?? Well, it’s good that the contract is freezing. You need your Air Force. for such territory in the troops of their minuscule.
  3. Sars 17 March 2020 12: 59 New
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    In my opinion, the author was mistaken. Payment under the contract should be barter (palm oil).
    The fewer such contracts, the better. A Su-35 in Russia will come in handy.
    1. Butchcassidy 17 March 2020 13: 05 New
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      Quote: SarS
      In my opinion, the author was mistaken. Payment under the contract should be barter (palm oil).
      The fewer such contracts, the better. A Su-35 in Russia will come in handy.

      The main thing is that everyone at VO knows better how the state sells military equipment.
      1. Roman1234567 17 March 2020 13: 36 New
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        Well, when only the lazy did not speak out about SP-2, the state "knew" that by the end of 19 it would be completed ..

        PS .. if that, the "state" is not some kind of super-computer, the abilities of which you can not doubt, but just a set of people from the street ..
        It all depends on who was destined to be born on the same street ..
        1. rotkiv04 17 March 2020 13: 50 New
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          For people like him, the state is Putin, and Putin is always right and faultless
          1. Butchcassidy 17 March 2020 17: 20 New
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            Quote: rotkiv04
            For people like him, the state is Putin, and Putin is always right and faultless

            No, I do not have such a position. But I know that there are such types of people who, understanding the issue, like a pig in oranges, give advice with a smart look. Apparently, when you come to the dentist, you are giving him lectures on proper filling and dental treatment. Oh well
        2. Butchcassidy 17 March 2020 15: 26 New
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          Quote: Roman1234567
          Well, when only the lazy did not speak out about SP-2, the state "knew" that by the end of 19 it would be completed ..

          PS .. if that, the "state" is not some kind of super-computer, the abilities of which you can not doubt, but just a set of people from the street ..
          It all depends on who was destined to be born on the same street ..

          Come on, come in from the street. Do you think Mishustin studied with Putin in the same class?

          Each industry has its own specifics. As an engineer in landscape gardening, when a person who at least once planted a strawberry bush begins to tell what and how to do in my specialty, I begin to feel like Willy Wonka from meme. I think that colleagues from the FSVTS and Rosoboronexport also feel when they are told what and how to do it.
          1. Roman1234567 17 March 2020 16: 01 New
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            Come on, come in from the street.

            Have you forgotten how to read ??

            It all depends on who was destined to be born on the same street ..



            Do you think Mishustin studied with Putin in the same class?

            Firstly, everyone knows very well where the majority of “politicians” from Putin’s circle come from.
            In the class, he may not have been loved, because there is no one from classmates ..
            Secondly, Mishustin has already proved himself to be a brilliant prime minister ?? Maybe he brought the country out of a deep crisis and led to prosperity ?? Maybe I didn’t understand something, for what purpose did they cite him as an example ??

            I like gardening engineer when a person at least once planted a strawberry bush in the country, begins to tell what and how to do in my specialty, then I begin to feel like Willy Wonka from meme.


            Well, lawyer Medvedev didn’t interfere with ruling the whole country ..
            And the judo coach didn’t interfere with building a bridge ..
            And nothing .. you are happy with this alignment ..
            And yes .. of course, they did not come from the street, but were born for these roles .. God's gift ..))
            1. Butchcassidy 17 March 2020 17: 17 New
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              Have you forgotten how to read ??

              No, I read carefully.

              Firstly, everyone knows very well where the majority of “politicians” from Putin’s circle come from.
              In the class, he may not have been loved, because there is no one from classmates ..
              Secondly, Mishustin has already proved himself to be a brilliant prime minister ?? Maybe he brought the country out of a deep crisis and led to prosperity ?? Maybe I didn’t understand something, for what purpose did they cite him as an example ??

              With this one. Mishustin proved himself to be a competent manager, having established the work of the Federal Tax Service, a technocrat. For which he received a promotion by jumping over two heads, including the former First Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance Siluanov. He works in a new place, right out of the fire and into the fire, taking all measures to combat the spread of the coronovirus, including closing the borders.

              And what kind of argument is this - “everyone knows”? I asked a specific question - what side and on which street did Putin intersect with Putin before he worked for many years at the Federal Tax Service?

              Well, lawyer Medvedev didn’t interfere with ruling the whole country ..
              And the judo coach didn’t interfere with building a bridge ..
              And nothing .. you are happy with this alignment ..
              And yes .. of course, they did not come from the street, but were born for these roles .. God's gift ..))


              I wrote a simple thought to you in Russian in white: everyone who has nothing to do with state cooperation in the defense industry knows and gives advice on what and how to do there. Petrosyans, damn it!
              As for the profession of the head of state, statistics show that the best profession for the head of state is a military or a lawyer. By the way, Putin is a lawyer.
              1. Roman1234567 18 March 2020 09: 06 New
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                Mishustin proved himself to be a competent manager, having established the work of the Federal Tax Service, a technocrat. For which he received rise by jumping over two heads,


                Using the example of the same Medvedev, we know very well that they do not receive promotions for the advantages you have listed.

                I asked a specific question - Mishustin which side and which street intersected

                This is not a specific issue, but an attempt to keep a good face on my face ..
                I don’t even know how sideways and on which street Putin met with Medvedev .. But it still doesn’t cancel out above the fact that I have indicated ..

                I wrote a simple thought to you in Russian in white: everyone who has nothing to do they know and give advice on state cooperation in the military-industrial complex, what and how to do there.

                And I wrote an even simpler thought to you ..
                First, not all know and give advice ..
                Secondly, among those who It has attitude to state cooperation, also do not always know what they are doing ..
                It seemed to you from somewhere that if a person has a surname Miller or Novak, then he will definitely know 100% what will happen in the situation with gas ..
                And an example of the same SP-2 clearly showed that this is not so ..


                Just understand once and for all - any state / person makes mistakes ..
                That is why it is far from always to elevate someone to heaven, listening with aspiration ..
                Even personally, over the past 10 years, you much more often predicted a rise in gas prices than your government "professionals" told you about it ..

                As for the profession of the head of state, statistics show that the best profession for the head of state is a military or a lawyer. By the way, Putin is a lawyer.

                I don’t know where you got these statistics from ..
                But by Putin’s example, you can already see that it’s not very true ..
                1. Butchcassidy 18 March 2020 10: 16 New
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                  Quote: Roman1234567
                  This is not a specific issue, but an attempt to keep a good face on my face ..
                  I don’t even know how sideways and on which street Putin met with Medvedev .. But it still doesn’t cancel out above the fact that I have indicated ..

                  Those. conversation about nothing?
                  1. Roman1234567 18 March 2020 10: 24 New
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                    Talk about that
                    when only the lazy did not speak out about SP-2, the state "knew" that by the end of 19 it would be completed ..
                    So people have enough rights to speak out regarding the contract for fighters ..

                    And also the conversation that all your attempts will not cancel the fact that if you had to be among Putin's comrades / friends, then you will certainly be a "good specialist" ..
                    And even if after spending several years in the sports field you will deserve only contempt among the people, then you will be given a new chance in the field of construction ..
                    This is just a fact !! Even if I don’t know which street Putin met with Mutko ..
                    1. Butchcassidy 18 March 2020 10: 43 New
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                      Quote: Roman1234567
                      So people have enough rights to speak out regarding the contract for fighters ..

                      And also the conversation that all your attempts will not cancel the fact that if you had to be among Putin's comrades / friends, then you will certainly be a "good specialist" ..
                      And even if after spending several years in the sports field you will deserve only contempt among the people, then you will be given a new chance in the field of construction ..
                      This is just a fact !! Even if I don’t know which street Putin met with Mutko ..

                      You can speak out about anything if it does not contain a corpus delicti or an administrative offense. And for those who respect other people, moral issues are also important and moral.

                      But we are now talking about competency. Southeast Asia is a specific region, Indonesia is the largest state in the world with a predominance of Muslim population. If in order to work with this state in order to avoid sanctions it is necessary to put fighters on a barter basis, then I do not see any problems in this. And the "specials" decided, apparently, that they would be forced to eat tons of palm oil ...
                      1. Roman1234567 18 March 2020 10: 51 New
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                        You can speak out about anything if it does not contain a corpus delicti or an administrative offense. And for those who respect other people, moral issues are also important and moral.


                        Yes, like I didn’t notice the crime here ..
                        What I can’t say with confidence about the contract itself .. For when it was in our country that there were honest fair contracts / tenders / elections ..))

                        If in order to work with this state in order to avoid sanctions it is necessary to put fighters on a barter basis, then I do not see any problems in this.
                        In a particular case, there may not be a problem ..
                        But people are not laughing from scratch about palm oil ..

                        And the "specials" decided, apparently, that they would be forced to eat tons of palm oil ...
                        Forcing to account - juggling, of course .. We will buy it ourselves .. voluntarily .. Personally, in my store the choice is not great .. In any case, if you look at it with reference to the average salary ..
      2. sabakina 17 March 2020 13: 48 New
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        Quote: ButchCassidy
        The main thing is that everyone at VO knows better how the state sells military equipment.
        The businessman said, counting the revenue for the day ...
        1. Butchcassidy 18 March 2020 09: 11 New
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          Quote: sabakina
          The businessman said, counting the revenue for the day ...


          And is there anything to object essentially?))
      3. Sars 17 March 2020 14: 18 New
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        Now everyone in VO will know who needs permission to comment on.
    2. Zaurbek 17 March 2020 14: 27 New
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      It all depends on the scale of supply .... and a one-time contract of 15 units, the Russian Federation will digest. Moreover, there are restrictions on the calculation of $. How else to pay the client?
      1. signifera 17 March 2020 15: 55 New
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        For me, the problem of the impossibility of payment is an excuse. Just afraid. Except as in $ there is nothing to pay? Well this is ridiculous. You can buy gold or other precious metals and pay it off, you can use cryptocurrency, you can use any value, paper, currency, resource, technology, debt or credit to resell, etc ... After all, a high-tech airplane can be exchanged for deshmansky semi-waste oil, and you can choose payment method, even non-traditional, is not it possible?)
        Let the cash carry!) They load the tanker from under the oil in small bills and carry!))) Let them collect any currencies, everything can be counted and converted. There would be a desire, but there will be a solution.
        1. Zaurbek 17 March 2020 17: 17 New
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          The main quantity of Deshman oil. It is not particularly different from oil in terms of liquidity. The barrier is bad for a joint-stock company or LLC with private capital or stock ... because it spoils the statistics and indicators according to which their shares are evaluated on the same western exchanges. Rosoboronexport is neither the other .... the main thing is to sell it.
        2. Butchcassidy 18 March 2020 09: 13 New
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          Yeah. Imagine the delivery of billions of cash?)) This is such a banter that I yell out loud!))
  4. Uncle Izya 17 March 2020 13: 00 New
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    Indonesia stood in pose
  5. Self 17 March 2020 13: 05 New
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    We are changing the Su-35 for Indonesian goods. Bravo. There is nothing more to add.
    1. Vasyan1971 17 March 2020 13: 25 New
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      Quote: Self
      We are changing the Su-35 for Indonesian goods. Bravo. There is nothing more to add.

      Which is worse: a lie or half-truth?
      It is covered by counter deliveries of Indonesian goods (which actually should not have been delivered to Russia, but sold on the international market).
      1. sabakina 17 March 2020 13: 54 New
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        [quote = Vasyan1971] Which is worse: a lie or half-truth? Vasya, the fact is that the glass has nothing to do with it. Just everyone sees it in different ways. wink
        1. Vasyan1971 17 March 2020 16: 14 New
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          Quote: sabakina
          Vasya, the fact is that the glass has nothing to do with it.

          What? belay Who is talking about, and the Glory about the glass?
          It is about comparing outright lies with lies covered by a changed truth. Compare Self's quote with the quote from the article. The article says that the goods will be sold to the store and the money will come to Russia. At Self it is written that the planes will change stupidly for goods. With the add-on:
          Quote: Self
          Bravo. There is nothing more to add.
          Like - a shame on the whole world!
          The branch is already full of screams that fighters are changing for a palm tree. But this is not so!
          1. Self 18 March 2020 12: 19 New
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            What to compare here. Grandmothers are, or they are not. Instead of getting money to get native goods, and then trying to sell them yourself on the international market, is that an effective trade? Our g .... no one takes, with his hands to the Russians for the latest fighters, and let them then sell it where they want and how they want. What, so junk fighters to sell them on such terms? It turns out like this.
      2. Self 18 March 2020 12: 13 New
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        What is the lie? We do not receive money. We receive the goods. Moreover, they themselves also have to sell them on the market. What did I write wrong?
        1. Vasyan1971 18 March 2020 13: 03 New
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          Quote: Self
          What did I write wrong?

          All wrong. request
          First, shouting "Shame!" Early. nothing has been decided yet.
          Secondly, you are a happy person, if you can wrinkle your nose, abandon the lard with more than American money, and even under current conditions, such as: "Fie!" The manufacturer will receive MONEY, not a barrel with a palm tree, as you declare.
          Yes, the scheme is familiar from the 90s. and the scheme is risky in many ways. But you propose to stand in a statement with the statement: "Only the cache and nothing else!"? The buyer will shrug and leave, and you will remain proud, principled and with a stopped production.
          What is the joy? What is the victory?
          1. Self 21 March 2020 06: 37 New
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            Firstly. What doesn’t mean anything has been decided if "the contract for Indonesia to acquire 11 Su-35 fighters was signed on February 14, 2018 in Jakarta." Let's do it again. It was. Signed. Contract. Contract, not intent.
            Secondly. They do not receive money, as you declare just, namely that a barrel with a palm tree. And then you want to look for a buyer, maybe you can find it, or maybe not, or you can find it, but for cheap, well, or eat this palm yourself. In any case, this is not at all how you write "The producer will get MONEY." It may not receive, or not at all as much as I wanted. Because the waste of Indonesian agricultural production, this is not gold or oil that can be easily sold on the international market.
            At the expense he shrugs his shoulders and leaves. Are you seriously ? Where ? To whom ? To the Americans, with the proposal to exchange F-35 for palm oil? You can shrug on condition that you pay in hard currency, not a dubious barter.
            1. Vasyan1971 21 March 2020 09: 16 New
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              Quote: Self
              Let's do it again. It was. Signed. Contract.

              This is the same half-truth in a negative tone.
              However, as one of the interlocutors of the publication admitted, “the contract has suspended”. One of the reasons for the impossibility of implementing the agreement is the need for additional approvals regarding financing of the transaction.

              Quote: Self
              They do not receive money, as you declare just, namely that a barrel with a palm tree.

              Read carefully.
              The contract value is $ 1,154 billion, of which 50% ($ 570 million) is covered by counter deliveries of Indonesian goods (which actually should not have been delivered to Russia but sold on the international market).

              Quote: Self
              May not receive, or not so much to receive,

              Do not guess, and even ahead of the engine.
              Quote: Self
              At the expense he shrugs his shoulders and leaves. Are you seriously ? Where ?

              Seriously? Is Jakarta on your leash? Like "food, but get on"?
              It looks very much like an attempt by a cook to run a state.
              I doubt very much that you have sufficient competence to adequately assess this situation. hi
              1. Self 23 March 2020 05: 24 New
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                And I very much doubt your competence, to evaluate someone else’s competence. If you think that the global manufacturers of military aircraft simply dream of exchanging their products for “counter deliveries of Indonesian goods, with their subsequent sale on the market,” then so be it. I have no desire to convince you of anything.
                1. Vasyan1971 23 March 2020 08: 08 New
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                  Quote: Self
                  If you think that the global manufacturers of military aircraft, just dream of exchanging their products for "counter deliveries of Indonesian goods, with their subsequent sale on the market"

                  Who speaks of "dreams" and even "global manufacturers"? Only you. You stubbornly don't want to read letters:
                  One of the reasons for the impossibility of implementing the agreement is the need for additional approvals regarding financing of the transaction.

                  Quote: Self
                  And I very much doubt your competence, to evaluate someone else’s competence.

                  And you don’t have to have seven spans in your forehead to doubt all the local couch "multi-experts" who are solving global issues of state governance here. request
    2. Zaurbek 17 March 2020 14: 29 New
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      And for calculations in $ direct punishment! How to trade? 15 Su35S is in the region of $ 1,5 billion.
      1. Fat
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        Quote: Zaurbek
        And for calculations in $ direct punishment! How to trade? 15 Su35S is in the region of $ 1,5 billion.

        Well no. Here, such a thing up to 50% of Apache helicopters are made (assembled) in Indonesia, a thing is being sold, but Jakarta cannot pay us with this money, it’s understandable why. So the Indonesians thought about how to pay. They themselves will find a way out.
  6. pavelty 17 March 2020 13: 30 New
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    The contract clearly defines the terms of payments, delivery times, etc., if something does not work out - it's fines, just like that, no one will terminate anything
  7. yfast 17 March 2020 14: 03 New
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    Now palm oil will have to be bought for money, and not for the SU-35. They say force majeure, no one is to blame for what happened.
    1. Zaurbek 17 March 2020 14: 31 New
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      And it would be beneficial ... the Su35C has a prime cost in rubles. Rubles fell to $ 15% ..... Palm in $ and holds steady.
  8. Wolf 17 March 2020 15: 17 New
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    Most importantly, if they began to build SU35 under this contract, this is already okaythey come in handy anyway homeland
    1. Zaurbek 17 March 2020 17: 18 New
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      Yes, in the videoconferencing they are needed
  9. Vadim777 24 March 2020 11: 11 New
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    And it’s good that it’s suspended, you don’t poison your people with palm oil