The Glonass-M satellite launched from Plesetsk is included in the catalog of space objects

The satellite “Glonass-M” put into orbit is included in the main catalog of space objects. This was reported by the Ministry of Defense, adding that the Frigate upper stage, which launched the satellite into orbit, was also included in the catalog.

Specialists of the Space Forces Control Center for Outer Space Control entered the Main Catalog of Space Objects of the Russian Outer Space Control System information on the Fregat upper stage and the Russian Glonass-M navigation spacecraft

- said in a statement.

It was previously reported that the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle with the Frigate booster and satellite launched from the Plesetsk Cosmodrome. The rocket was launched on March 16 at 21:28 Moscow time, at 21:38 Moscow time the upper stage with Glonass was separated from the rocket and at the estimated time on March 17 the satellite was put into orbit. The launch of the rocket and the launch of the satellite into orbit took place normally.

At present, the satellite has been taken into control of ground-based facilities of the Main Test Space Center named after G.S. Titov of the Space Forces of the VKS. A stable communication is maintained with the satellite, all of its on-board systems are functioning normally, the upper stage has been removed from the satellite’s orbit.

Meanwhile, the head of the state corporation Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin said that already this year the corporation will switch to launching the Glonass K1 satellites instead of Glonass-M. In the new spacecraft, the share of domestic components has been increased. In general, according to Rogozin, since 2017, the share of domestic electronics in Russian satellites has increased from 53% to 80%.

This year we are starting the transition to a new generation of devices - Glonass K1. The share of domestic components will increase significantly in them.

- wrote the head of Roskosmos on Twitter.

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Glonass-K is likely to fly next, although one Glonass-M is in storage.

[loki565]

Glonass-K is likely to fly next, although one Glonass-M is in storage.

And how do they differ? period of operation?

[Rzzz]

"M" is a wildly outdated platform, dating back to the 90s. Huge and heavy on those other components. Unreliable. And only frequency division signals.
"K" - already the apparatus itself is more modern (but also almost outdated, not really starting to be used). Should live longer. A more accurate standard, more precisely signals. And most importantly, a new code division signal has been added. There is still no sense from it, but when there are at least a dozen of such satellites, then there will be higher accuracy, noise protection, more compact antennas (with a full transition) and more compact receivers.

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"M" is a wildly outdated platform, dating back to the 90s. Huge and heavy on those other components. Unreliable.

They have been working for 13 years.

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And signals only with frequency division.

Since 2014, not only.

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"K" - already the apparatus itself is more modern (but also almost outdated, not really starting to be used).

701 - 10 years of flight design tests, 702 in operation for more than six years - successfully.

Quote: rzzz

Must live longer. More accurate reference, more precisely signals. And most importantly, a new code division signal has been added.

It has long been added. See above.

Quote: rzzz

So far, it’s no use, but when there are at least a dozen such satellites, then accuracy, noise immunity will be higher,

Launch of new Glonass-K satellites - in turn, as the previous generation satellites are fired, which, in turn, are launched as needed. In addition, the first "Glonass-K2" for flight tests has been completed.

Quote: rzzz

more compact antennas (with full conversion) and more compact receivers.

GLONASS chips have been in mobile phones for many years, much less.

[Rzzz]

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They have been working for 13 years.

It is now. And then thank God. The early ones died a couple of years later, why they could not assemble a group - the satellites died almost at the same frequency as they started.
Organizational conclusions were probably made there, the plant director was resolutely phoned from where necessary, and said that if such garbage continued, then he would fly the control equipment on the next satellite.

Quote: slipped

Since 2014, not only.

On the "M" later, the CDMA signal was added as an experiment, especially since no one needs it yet, and is unlikely to be needed until the end of the existence of these devices.

Quote: slipped

Launch of new Glonass-K satellites - in turn, as the previous generation satellites are fired, which, in turn, are launched as needed. In addition, the first "Glonass-K2" for flight tests has been completed.

I think the K series will be small, a few devices. It is logical to transfer the entire system to K2 immediately.

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GLONASS chips have been in mobile phones for many years, much less.

I did not mean chips, but antennas. You can reduce the chips very well, but with antennas this will not work. There is a clear dependence of the physical dimensions on the received signals. When all the signals go at the same frequency, the antenna can be made simpler and smaller. Or, if the size is not critical, as on a ship, for example, then the efficiency of an antenna operating at one frequency will be higher than that of a wide-range antenna. Accordingly, higher noise immunity.
The Americans, taking advantage of technical superiority, immediately made CDMA. But there a lot of work was done to refine the code separation, and guessed it, it turned out to be the best solution. We saved resources and made a frequency, but in the end, it turned out to be a major drawback. Now here we go.

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Quote: rzzz

It is now. And then thank God. The early ones died a couple of years later, why they could not assemble a group - the satellites died almost at the same frequency as they started.

The early ones are the 80s of the last century. Satellites were then designed for only three years, so they often failed.

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There probably were organizational conclusions,

No. The platform was modernized and the grouping began to be assembled in a new way. By 2010, it was again deployed in full configuration.

Quote: rzzz

On the "M" later, the CDMA signal was added as an experiment, especially since no one needs it yet, and is unlikely to be needed until the end of the existence of these devices.

Quote: rzzz

I think the K series will be small, a few devices.

More than 10 spacecraft.

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It is logical to transfer the entire system to K2 immediately.

Illogical. This series is yet to be tested.

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Quote: loki565

And how do they differ? period of operation?

Platform. At Glonass-K it is modern leaky. Accordingly, the service life is higher.

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Platform. At Glonass-K it is modern leaky. Accordingly, the service life is higher.

Oh, how controversial ... The problem is that there is practically no microelectronics of at least Military class in our space industry: the cat cried out of its own production, but abroad does not help. So we launch the Industrial, but they are not adapted to the conditions of outer space.
By the way. We are talking about the Guaranteed period of active existence, but simply CAC can be much more. Won at Canopus-V (No. 1) GSAS - 5 years, and already flies almost 8.

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Oh, it’s debatable ... The problem is that there are practically no military class microelectronics in our space industry: the cat wept, but abroad does not help.
So we launch the Industrial, but they are not adapted to the conditions of outer space.

Glonass-K No. 701 - launched on February 26, 2011, Glonass-K No. 702 - launched on December 1, 2014. Their leaky platforms work. The first will soon come to the edge of his CAC in 10 years. The share of domestic electronics of the space class is growing, although not all of our satellite builders at the same time. ISS has more or less with this.

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By the way. We are talking about the Guaranteed period of active existence, but simply CAC can be much more. Won at Canopus-V (No. 1) GSAS - 5 years, and already flies almost 8.

Kanopus-V was created on the leaky platform of VNIIEM. And he was already flying off. Work with him is stopped. He exceeded his guaranteed CAC by two and a half years.

At the same time, the Glonass-M satellites numbered 719 and 720 have been operating for twelve and a half years, despite their CAC of seven.

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Kanopus-V was created on the leaky platform of VNIIEM. And he was already flying off. Work with him is stopped. He exceeded his guaranteed CAC by two and a half years.

Actually, it didn’t fly off. Not yet decommissioned. Or has something changed in four days?
Another thing is that everything is bad with him ...

[Piramidon]

Here is what you need to run. And then - the moon, the moon. In our Earth orbit, far from all that is needed

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Here is what you need to run. And then - the moon, the moon. In our Earth orbit, far from all that is needed

And what does the moon have to do with it? The moon is fundamental scientific research. And navigation is applied cosmonautics. Completely different directions. It does not interfere.

[Piramidon]

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And what does the moon have to do with it? Completely different directions.

It is not a matter of directions, but of finances, which are taken from one budget. What is spent on the moon is better spent on the orbital grouping, which is still quite rare with us. Here I am talking about.

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It is not a matter of directions, but of finances, which are taken from one budget.

So the budget is allocated to each space program based on its implementation, whether it is communications, remote sensing or science. The worst thing is when the budget is sequestered, which is what happened in our PCF. Then interesting programs have to be postponed until later.

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What is spent on the moon is better spent on the orbital grouping, which is still quite rare with us. Here I am talking about.

Orbital groupings do not exist on their own. They are closely related to the ground. For example, you can display more than a dozen communication satellites "Messenger" and boasts about it, but if he has subscribers the cat cried, then why such a grouping? It is required to tighten ground services of services, and only then increase the grouping.

[Igoresha]

and what kind of satellite is that inside - not a word

[SASHA OLD]

second generation of navigation satellites, gives two signals instead of one for "civil" (higher accuracy)
weight - 1415 kg,
guaranteed period of active existence - 7 years,
features - 2 signals for civilian consumers,
in comparison with the satellites of the previous generation (Glonass), the accuracy of determining the location of objects is increased 2,5 times,
SEP power - 1400 W
domestic onboard computer based on a microprocessor with a command system VAX 11/750 (K1839)
additional CDMA signal transmitter (L3OC) on the latest devices (starting from No. 755)

(from wiki)

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and what kind of satellite is that inside - not a word

Yeah. Navigation satellite. This:

[Dart]

Well, the group is being updated ... in our part of the world, Glonass is the most relevant.

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Well, the group is being updated ... in our part of the world, Glonass is the most relevant.

Maybe. Accuracy, however, is not so hot, GPS is better. And reliability also leaves much to be desired. But his, dear.

[Dart]

let me say that I have been operating about one and a half thousand monitoring terminals for more than ten years, of various designs and manufacturers, and I know something in the field of navigation. The accuracy of our system in our territory has long been better than GPS, as a full-fledged grouping formed. Beidu is good in the Asian region .. as for the chips, they are all the same multi-system, the reliability is also the same. As for the reliability of the GLONASS grouping, it’s definitely no worse than GPS, since it is also a strategic component of our defense systems.

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As for the reliability of the GLONASS grouping, it’s definitely no worse than GPS, since it is also a strategic component of our defense systems.

Well, I can’t boast of such experience. The third year I work directly with Canopuses, which have been put into orbit. Do you know that when working with GLONASS, they can generally lose their location with their errors in each coordinate? And with GPS they work stably. While PSNV is not buggy, of course.

[Dart]

Are you sure you are working NOW? Such things disappeared from me 7-8 years ago ... It would be such, we would not take part in SDKM, sorry in SBAS ..

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Are you sure you are working NOW?

Settled in 2018, in May. They work on GPS, I ended my experiments with GLONASS even when I did not pass the trial period.

[Peter is not the first]

19400 km for this satellite under the "keel", if it has one. And honestly work out the entire service life and even more.

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Maybe. Accuracy, however, is not so hot, GPS is better. And reliability also leaves much to be desired. But his, dear.

Reliability is fine. And with the transition to the launch of Glonass-K2, the accuracy will be no worse than that of GPS or even better.

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Reliability is fine. And with the transition to the launch of Glonass-K2, the accuracy will be no worse than that of GPS or even better.

I can argue for reliability for a long time. And by the accuracy of K2yh - we'll see.

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Another thing is that everything is bad with him ...

Means decommissioning

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Another thing is that everything is bad with him ...

Means decommissioning

Not yet.

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Not yet.

But the fact that he has been "on the GC study" since February 15 is nothing?

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Not yet.

But the fact that he has been "on the GC study" since February 15 is nothing?

For the first time, or what? He has already been "on research" ...

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For the first time, or what? He has already been "on research" ...

Unfortunately VNIIEM to the level of ISS as to .... in general, far. However, as well as the Samara RCC.

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Unfortunately VNIIEM to the level of ISS as to .... in general, far. However, as well as the Samara RCC.

Eeeeehhh ... Unfortunately, yes ... What is even sadder - at some other enterprises the situation is much worse.