The Glonass-M satellite launched from Plesetsk is included in the catalog of space objects

The Glonass-M satellite launched from Plesetsk is included in the catalog of space objects

The satellite “Glonass-M” put into orbit is included in the main catalog of space objects. This was reported by the Ministry of Defense, adding that the Frigate upper stage, which launched the satellite into orbit, was also included in the catalog.


Specialists of the Space Forces Control Center for Outer Space Control entered the Main Catalog of Space Objects of the Russian Outer Space Control System information on the Fregat upper stage and the Russian Glonass-M navigation spacecraft

- said in a statement.

It was previously reported that the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle with the Frigate booster and satellite launched from the Plesetsk Cosmodrome. The rocket was launched on March 16 at 21:28 Moscow time, at 21:38 Moscow time the upper stage with Glonass was separated from the rocket and at the estimated time on March 17 the satellite was put into orbit. The launch of the rocket and the launch of the satellite into orbit took place normally.

At present, the satellite has been taken into control of ground-based facilities of the Main Test Space Center named after G.S. Titov of the Space Forces of the VKS. A stable communication is maintained with the satellite, all of its on-board systems are functioning normally, the upper stage has been removed from the satellite’s orbit.

Meanwhile, the head of the state corporation Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin said that already this year the corporation will switch to launching the Glonass K1 satellites instead of Glonass-M. In the new spacecraft, the share of domestic components has been increased. In general, according to Rogozin, since 2017, the share of domestic electronics in Russian satellites has increased from 53% to 80%.

This year we are starting the transition to a new generation of devices - Glonass K1. The share of domestic components will increase significantly in them.

- wrote the head of Roskosmos on Twitter.
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  1. slipped 17 March 2020 11: 54 New
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    Most likely the next one is Glonass-K, although one Glonass-M is in storage.

    1. loki565 17 March 2020 12: 12 New
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      Most likely the next one is Glonass-K, although one Glonass-M is in storage.

      And how do they differ? period of operation?
      1. Rzzz 17 March 2020 21: 15 New
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        M is a wildly outdated platform dating back to the 90s. Huge and heavy, on those other components. Unreliable. And signals only with frequency division.
        “K” - the device itself is already more modern (but it is also almost outdated before it really started to be used). Must live longer. More accurate reference, more precisely signals. And most importantly, a new code division signal has been added. It is of no use so far, but when there will be at least a dozen such satellites, then there will be higher accuracy, noise immunity, more compact antennas (with full transition) and more compact receivers.
        1. slipped 18 March 2020 11: 19 New
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          Quote: rzzz
          M is a wildly outdated platform dating back to the 90s. Huge and heavy, on those other components. Unreliable.


          They have been working for 13 years.

          Quote: rzzz
          And signals only with frequency division.


          Since 2014, not only.

          Quote: rzzz
          “K” - the device itself is already more modern (but it is also almost outdated before it really started to be used).


          701 - 10 years of flight design tests, 702 in operation for more than six years - successfully.

          Quote: rzzz
          Must live longer. More accurate reference, more precisely signals. And most importantly, a new code division signal has been added.


          It has long been added. See above.

          Quote: rzzz
          So far, it’s no use, but when there are at least a dozen such satellites, then accuracy, noise immunity will be higher,


          Launch of new Glonass-K satellites - in turn, as the previous generation satellites are shot, which, in turn, are launched according to operational necessity. In addition, the first Glonass-K2 for flight tests was also made in line.

          Quote: rzzz
          more compact antennas (with full conversion) and more compact receivers.


          GLONASS chips have been in mobile phones for many years, much less.
          1. Rzzz 18 March 2020 20: 53 New
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            Quote: slipped
            They have been working for 13 years.

            It is now. And then thank God. The early ones died a couple of years later, why they could not assemble a group - the satellites died almost at the same frequency as they started.
            Organizational conclusions were probably made there, the plant director was resolutely phoned from where necessary, and said that if such garbage continued, then he would fly the control equipment on the next satellite. wassat wassat wassat
            Quote: slipped
            Since 2014, not only.

            On the “M” of later ones, the CDMA signal was added as an experiment, especially since no one needs it yet, and is unlikely to be needed until the end of these devices.

            Quote: slipped
            Launch of new Glonass-K satellites - in turn, as the previous generation satellites are shot, which, in turn, are launched according to operational necessity. In addition, the first Glonass-K2 for flight tests was also made in line.

            I think the K series will be small, a few devices. It is logical to transfer the entire system to K2 immediately.
            Quote: slipped
            GLONASS chips have been in mobile phones for many years, much less.

            I did not mean chips, but antennas. You can reduce the chips very well, but with antennas this will not work. There is a clear dependence of the physical dimensions on the received signals. When all the signals go at the same frequency, the antenna can be made simpler and smaller. Or, if the size is not critical, as on a ship, for example, then the efficiency of an antenna operating at one frequency will be higher than that of a wide-range antenna. Accordingly, higher noise immunity.
            The Americans, taking advantage of technical superiority, immediately made CDMA. But there a lot of work was done to refine the code separation, and guessed it, it turned out to be the best solution. We saved resources and made a frequency, but in the end, it turned out to be a major drawback. Now here we go.
            1. slipped 18 March 2020 23: 29 New
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              Quote: rzzz
              It is now. And then thank God. The early ones died a couple of years later, why they could not assemble a group - the satellites died almost at the same frequency as they started.


              The early ones are the 80s of the last century. Satellites were then designed for only three years, so they often failed.

              Quote: rzzz
              There probably were organizational conclusions,


              No. The platform was modernized and the grouping began to be assembled in a new way. By 2010, it was again deployed in full configuration.

              Quote: rzzz
              On the “M” of later ones, the CDMA signal was added as an experiment, especially since no one needs it yet, and is unlikely to be needed until the end of these devices.


              laughing

              Quote: rzzz
              I think the K series will be small, a few devices.


              More than 10 spacecraft.

              Quote: rzzz
              It is logical to transfer the entire system to K2 immediately.


              Illogical. This series is yet to be tested.
  2. slipped 17 March 2020 12: 13 New
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    Quote: loki565
    And how do they differ? period of operation?


    Platform. At Glonass-K it is modern leaky. Accordingly, the service life is higher.
    1. CT-55_11-9009 17 March 2020 17: 52 New
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      Quote: slipped
      Platform. At Glonass-K it is modern leaky. Accordingly, the service life is higher.

      Oh, it’s debatable ... The problem is that there are practically no military class microelectronics in our space industry: the cat wept, but abroad does not help. So we launch Industrial'y, but they are not adapted to the conditions of outer space.
      By the way. We are talking about the Guaranteed period of active existence, but simply CAC can be much more. Won at Canopus-V (No. 1) GSAS - 5 years, and already flies almost 8.
      1. slipped 17 March 2020 19: 02 New
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        Quote: CT-55_11-9009
        Oh, it’s debatable ... The problem is that there are practically no military class microelectronics in our space industry: the cat wept, but abroad does not help.
        So we launch Industrial'y, but they are not adapted to the conditions of outer space.


        Glonass-K No. 701 - launched on February 26, 2011, Glonass-K No. 702 - launched on December 1, 2014. Their leaky platforms work. The first will soon come to the edge of his CAC in 10 years. The share of domestic electronics of the space class is growing, although not all of our satellite builders at the same time. ISS has more or less with this.

        Quote: CT-55_11-9009
        By the way. We are talking about the Guaranteed period of active existence, but simply CAC can be much more. Won at Canopus-V (No. 1) GSAS - 5 years, and already flies almost 8.


        Kanopus-V was created on the leaky platform of VNIIEM. And he was already flying off. Work with him is stopped. He exceeded his guaranteed CAC by two and a half years.

        At the same time, Glonass-M satellites with numbers 719 and 720 have been operating for twelve and a half years, despite their CAC at seven.
        1. CT-55_11-9009 17 March 2020 20: 07 New
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          Quote: slipped
          Kanopus-V was created on the leaky platform of VNIIEM. And he was already flying off. Work with him is stopped. He exceeded his guaranteed CAC by two and a half years.

          Actually, it didn’t fly off. Not yet decommissioned. Or has something changed in four days?
          Another thing is that everything is bad with him ...
  3. Piramidon 17 March 2020 12: 27 New
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    Here is what you need to run. And then - the moon, the moon. In our Earth orbit, far from all that is needed
    1. slipped 17 March 2020 13: 18 New
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      Quote: Piramidon
      Here is what you need to run. And then - the moon, the moon. In our Earth orbit, far from all that is needed


      And what does the moon have to do with it? The moon is fundamental scientific research. And navigation is applied cosmonautics. Completely different directions. It does not interfere.
      1. Piramidon 17 March 2020 14: 24 New
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        Quote: slipped
        And what does the moon have to do with it? Completely different directions.

        It is not a matter of directions, but of finances, which are taken from one budget. What is spent on the moon is better spent on the orbital grouping, which is still quite rare with us. Here I am talking about.
        1. slipped 17 March 2020 19: 11 New
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          Quote: Piramidon
          It is not a matter of directions, but of finances, which are taken from one budget.


          So the budget is allocated to each space program based on its implementation, whether it is communications, remote sensing or science. The worst thing is when the budget is sequestered, which is what happened in our PCF. Then interesting programs have to be postponed until later.

          Quote: Piramidon
          What is spent on the moon is better spent on the orbital grouping, which is still quite rare with us. Here I am talking about.


          Orbital groups do not exist on their own. They are closely related to the ground. For example, you can bring out more than a dozen communication satellites "Messenger" and boasts of it, but if he has subscribers the cat cried, then why such a group then? It is required to tighten the ground services services, and only then increase the grouping.
  4. Igoresha 17 March 2020 12: 29 New
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    and what kind of satellite is that inside - not a word
    1. SASHA OLD 17 March 2020 12: 49 New
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      the second generation of navigation satellites, gives two signals instead of one for "civilian" (higher accuracy)
      weight - 1415 kg,
      guaranteed period of active existence - 7 years,
      features - 2 signals for civilian consumers,
      in comparison with the satellites of the previous generation (Glonass), the accuracy of determining the location of objects is increased 2,5 times,
      SEP power - 1400 W
      domestic onboard computer based on a microprocessor with a command system VAX 11/750 (K1839)
      additional CDMA signal transmitter (L3OC) on the latest devices (starting from No. 755)

      (from wiki)
    2. slipped 17 March 2020 12: 51 New
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      Quote: Igoresha
      and what kind of satellite is that inside - not a word


      Yeah. Navigation satellite. This:

  5. Dart 17 March 2020 13: 34 New
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    Well, the group is being updated ... in our part of the world, Glonass is the most relevant.
    1. CT-55_11-9009 17 March 2020 17: 53 New
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      Quote: Dart
      Well, the group is being updated ... in our part of the world, Glonass is the most relevant.

      Maybe. Accuracy, however, is not so hot, GPS is better. And reliability also leaves much to be desired. But his, dear.
      1. Dart 17 March 2020 21: 18 New
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        let me say that I have been operating about one and a half thousand monitoring terminals for more than ten years, of various designs and manufacturers, and I know something in the field of navigation. The accuracy of our system in our territory has long been better than GPS, as a full-fledged grouping formed. Beidu is good in the Asian region .. as for the chips, they are all the same multi-system, the reliability is also the same. As for the reliability of the GLONASS grouping, it’s definitely no worse than GPS, since it is also a strategic component of our defense systems.
        1. CT-55_11-9009 17 March 2020 22: 16 New
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          Quote: Dart
          As for the reliability of the GLONASS grouping, it’s definitely no worse than GPS, since it is also a strategic component of our defense systems.

          Well, I can’t boast of such experience. The third year I work directly with Canopuses, which have been put into orbit. Do you know that when working with GLONASS, they can generally lose their location with their errors in each coordinate? And with GPS they work stably. While PSNV is not buggy, of course.
          1. Dart 17 March 2020 22: 23 New
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            Are you sure you are working NOW? what Such things disappeared from me 7-8 years ago ... It would be such, we would not take part in SDKM, sorry in SBAS ..
            1. CT-55_11-9009 18 March 2020 00: 56 New
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              Quote: Dart
              Are you sure you are working NOW?

              Settled in 2018, in May. They work on GPS, I ended my experiments with GLONASS even when I did not pass the trial period.
  6. Peter is not the first 17 March 2020 17: 57 New
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    19400 km to this satellite under the keel, if it has one. And honestly work out the entire period of operation and even more.
  7. slipped 17 March 2020 19: 14 New
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    Quote: CT-55_11-9009
    Maybe. Accuracy, however, is not so hot, GPS is better. And reliability also leaves much to be desired. But his, dear.


    Everything is normal with reliability. And with the transition to the launch of Glonass-K2, the accuracy will become no worse than that of GPS or even better.
    1. CT-55_11-9009 17 March 2020 22: 17 New
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      Quote: slipped
      Everything is normal with reliability. And with the transition to the launch of Glonass-K2, the accuracy will become no worse than that of GPS or even better.

      I can argue for reliability for a long time. And by the accuracy of K2yh - we'll see.
  8. slipped 17 March 2020 21: 17 New
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    Quote: CT-55_11-9009
    Another thing is that everything is bad with him ...


    Means decommissioning
    1. CT-55_11-9009 17 March 2020 22: 18 New
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      Quote: slipped
      Quote: CT-55_11-9009
      Another thing is that everything is bad with him ...


      Means decommissioning

      Not yet.
  9. slipped 18 March 2020 00: 12 New
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    Quote: CT-55_11-9009
    Not yet.


    But the fact that since February 15, "on the study of the Civil Code" is nothing? laughing
    1. CT-55_11-9009 18 March 2020 00: 58 New
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      Quote: slipped
      Quote: CT-55_11-9009
      Not yet.


      But the fact that since February 15, "on the study of the Civil Code" is nothing? laughing

      For the first time, or what? He’s been “under investigation” once again ...
      1. slipped 18 March 2020 02: 18 New
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        Quote: CT-55_11-9009
        For the first time, or what? He’s been “under investigation” once again ...


        Unfortunately VNIIEM to the level of ISS as to .... in general, far. However, as well as the Samara RCC.
        1. CT-55_11-9009 18 March 2020 02: 20 New
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          Quote: slipped
          Unfortunately VNIIEM to the level of ISS as to .... in general, far. However, as well as the Samara RCC.

          Eeeeehhh ... Unfortunately, yes ... What is even sadder - at some other enterprises the situation is much worse.